The Flop House - Ep. #316 - Between Worlds, w/ Erin Foley-Chan

Episode Date: July 4, 2020

It's Cagemas in July! That cherished Flop House tradition that Dan totally forgot about for the past couple of years. But he remembered this time! Lay off! Anyway, the wonderful Erin Foley-Chan (supervising producer of The Big Fib on Disney+) joins us to discuss the weird-ass supernatural sex thriller Between Worlds. Meanwhile, Dan has done some sex scene research, Erin offers a producer's perspective, Stuart's old comics collaborator makes a surprise appearance, and Elliott makes "kid flashback" the two funniest words in the English language.Paste theflophouse.libsyn.com/rss into iTunes (or your favorite podcatching software) to have new episodes of The Flop House delivered to you directly, as they’re released.Wikipedia synopsis of Between WorldsMovies recommended in this episode:Super Xuxa Contra o Baixo AstralWhat We Do in the ShadowsThe Last Black Man in San FranciscoOne Cut of the Dead

On this episode we discuss Between World The number one search result for Stop! You're my stepdaughter And you're a ghost! Hey, welcome to the flop house, I'm Dan McCoy. Wow, Dan McCoy coming in hot, in low colder me Stewart Wellington and here coming in as cold as possible It's old Elliott Kaelin blow it in from the North wind Am I a ghost now I was wind before but now I appear to be a ghost chain rattles, chain rattles.

Is the wind blowing the chains? Or is it a ghost rattling the chains? Perhaps our guest today can tell us then, who's our guest? Our guest is my friend Erin Fouley-Chan. You may know her as the head writer for the big fantasy debate on Facebook. Or perhaps supervising producer for the big fib on Disney Plus. She's done comedy stuff for years and years and years except for the parts where she wasn't doing comedy stuff and I'm glad that we have her on Erin Fully Chan. Hello! Yay! I am! I am running in here at 98.6 nice and comfy. Not too hot, not too cold just regular average middle porridge although I did I did tell Sammy yesterday I did inform him

that the inside of your mouth is a blistering 90.6 degrees but that a but that my mouth no what was the product where your mouth is much much cooler why was he asking about my mouth did I, no, it's time for the stewards. I also like the notion that it is blisteringly hot in your mouth, that the heat inside your mouth is as soon as causing blisters within your own mouth. This was some kind of cold mint. I forgot what it was now, but they would say,

it would be like, and it would show some with fire all around them and they would go, as if 98.6 degrees in your mouth was the same as like a boiling pot of water. Yeah, not your body temperature I've never gone around to see a healthy body picture of my mouth or Did you tell the story Yeah, a lot he has a lot of questions about your mouth Stewart. Yeah, Papa. What tempo a toys do it's mouth You met him. Yeah, that's what he sounds like now I I know Aaron cuz she actually was the coach for my bad improv group practice group back in

the old days when I was first in New York and doing that UCB grind and you guys were great. You don't have to say that anymore. That's right. That's an interesting coaching technique. All you do is tell them they're great. Everything is perfect. Don't change. Don't learn or grow.

You're there. Yeah. And then we reconnected years later when she was going to school at Columbia and I was working there in a closet. And we had some good times having meals and complaining about the comedy world. Now to explain to the listeners, Dan was working in a closet because you were working as a mop at the time, right? Yeah, well, I wish I was a mop. I aspired to be one.

I started out as a swiffer. So, I mean, I feel like a swiffer is kind of an upstreet against a mop. I mean, mop was invented by Mickey Mouse. Yeah, mop was invented by Mickey Mouse for the magic style. I mean, whereas the swiffer was invented by JR Swiffer, who went on to be the father of JR, R Tolkien, who in turn was the father of JK Rowling. No, Stuart, I think I can.

Who is trash, so it. Yeah, thanks for bringing up trash, Elliot. We'll just pick up the trash. You brought up, I'll take it outside and throw it in a fucking garbage can. Why don't you throw it in my why don't you throw it in the broken garbage cans I have that the city of Los Angeles will be replacing on Wednesday and I'm so excited about Yeah, I don't know why I feel compelled to push back against this but I maybe it's because I feel that I can teach

Stewart a lesson about how the new ways aren't necessarily the best ways. Like a swiffer is a much less effective method of getting ones floor clean than a mop. Is it more convenient? Yes. Do I want to use a mop? No. But when it comes to doing its job, a mop is tops. So that's a bosses perspective though.

From the actual device, would you rather be sweeping up dry garbage or wet garbage? Yes, let's look at it from the artificial labor Point of view the thing that with the object. What's the object thing? Well, that's why on today is everything is alive We'll be talking to a mop and a swiffer. Yeah, my name's Marty. I'm a mop I guess I've always been a mop. I didn't apply for the job. Yeah, it's me, Jimmy Swiff. You know, Swiff is a new within mobs,

but I still think we do a good job. Thank you, that was everything is alive. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. So are some episodes are really horrifying, that's you. Yeah, they are. Do they ever do one about an egg? I can't remember.

If it's, because I would like to do an episode of where it's an egg and it's like, just don't break me. Every day I live in fear that someone's going to smash me. Don't hold on. Did they ever do one about an egg? Are you talking about, is this a real show or? Yeah, everything is alive. It's a real podcast.

What? Yeah, it's a real podcast where items. I'm sure you got listen to it sometime I don't think they've done a toilet. They did do soap at one point look you go listen to it. They do a great job podcast gear to People who want to anthropomorphize their objects that they feel bad about using them for the jobs that they're meant to to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able to be able podcasts that some of the co-hosts are not sure our real podcasts. Dan, that's what we do on this podcast, right? In correct, this is a podcast where we watch a movie that we have been led to believe is a flop either critically or commercially. Not a mop.

Then we watch it and then we get on the energy tubes to talk about it in your ears. Oh, yeah, actually, that's good. People don't really realize that we're actually all recording well in inner tubes on lazy rivers, the different parts of the country. Yep. So we lose more microphones this way. Okay, well, you know, I think this has been the best opening to show maybe ever, and not just our show, but in the world. So we can't do any better.

So let's just get on to the thing that we do Yeah, which is About this movie now this movie is between worlds it stars Nicholas Cage and of course Wait a minute What season is it Dan what special time of year would make us watch this movie normally? That's right. Is that St. Nick flying across the sky? Oh yeah, it's cage miss in July.

St. Nick is flying across the sky wearing a t-shirt in shorts because he's July time. I mean, I feel like he's pretty sure he's wearing leather everything and a crazy alligator t-shirt. That's true, and his face is painted like a skull. Is that noise the jingling of jingle bells? Or is it the jingling of chains of a ghost? Oh, we turn to you, expert, Erin fully changed to tell us. Now, you're a chain audio expert, and chains

are often used to keep people in cages. So that's why we have you on today for a cage of gingerlion. Now how did you become an expert on the sounds chains make and what is causing the chains to make those sounds? Well you know I was born into it. I didn't ask for it to happen to me. I certainly would have chosen it for myself but I come from a long line of chain audio experts. My mom was a chain expert, my papa was a chain expert. Chain experts all the way down. Yeah. Yeah. And the name chance sounds like chain. Yeah. And I am trapped in this life of chains. Yeah. What was I going to say now speaking of chains and

cages, Nicholas cage. We do this thing in December called cage mess where we as Stewart indicated celebrate the life and teachings of st. Nicholas cage and we also do cage mishand july which is a thing that i believe i've forgotten about for the last couple of years so it's named after everyone's second least favorite press and sturgis movie christmas in july uh... i have to go to the list to make that judgment. Everyone's least favorite is the one about the invention of ether gas for dentistry.

And the second least favorite is Christmas in July. Is that a drama and not one of his comedies? It is a drama I think. Yeah, it's called what the the great moment or something like that the beat the uh... Oh boy. Never been kissed is what you're thinking. Yeah, never been kissed. Yeah, the great moment. I both remember liking Christmas in July and also that I remember nothing about it other than I liked it. So.

Now a lot of the Christmas in July twists on whether or not coffee makes you sleepy or helps you wake up. That's right. It's the bunk, something about that. If you can't sleep, it's not the coffee, it's the bunk. Yeah. That's the slogan that the guy, anyway, we're not here for Christmas in July. Is that the movie we're talking about

Christmas in July between world really fun thing about this is trying to guess in the moment what's gonna get cut and what's gonna make it in oh nothing is cut until i say something that someone might take the wrong way in which case we cut that stuff i do a little and then we cut it out yeah so between worlds this was a big budget summer tent pole release.

No, actually that links right directly into what I have in my notes here which is the first thing you see in this film is of course. Oh, we should mention dancing the summary this this episode so it's going to be above the ride. Let's take a day. Hehehehe. Fasten your ear belts. We are off-roading. Wait, tell I do something wrong before saying that, Elliot. Don't- Fair point, fair point.

Okay, so the first thing we see. It's setting me up for failure. We see a couple of production companies you've likely never heard of. I do believe I have seen these before, but probably just because we do this podcast, and we have become a kind of sewer of little more production companies i mean the first one is so on films which of course is high on the so i guess it is yes i miss that one but there was like voltage and uh... something else i don't really

voltage pictures uh... you may know of the front the movie don john i think was one of those okay that's one where uh... it's bad to jack off that's the movie. That's the one where it's bad to jack off. That's the movie. Yes. That's the one where internet porn almost ruins Jessica and Levitt's ability to interact with human women.

The thing I remember about that movie is they spend a lot of time. The one thing that movie really gets right is Fellows taking off their button-down shirts to eat their Italian meals just wearing their their leafless underarm shirts. Yes. Now I mean voltage also made the hurtlocker. They made the last fires glove.

Yeah, but then they had kind of they haven't done anything at that level for a little while. Okay, well now that we've finished that trip down voltage lane, we are introduced. You brought it up. We're introduced to Nicholas Cage, who in this film plays Joe. Now Joe, this guy is a trucker with world-class greasy long hair and beard. And he wears several rings on his hands, and he has a hat that says turkey and the wolf.

And the first. Is that available for purchase anywhere? Maybe at the Voltaux picture as well. Between world's merch. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The first we hear Joe saying something is he owes some money to someone that he's talking to on the phone.

So right away we get the sense that Joe is living the high life. He's at the top of his game. As if you the top of his game as if you couldn't tell by as if you could tell by looking at him and seeing as kind of like homeless man meets caveman aesthetic uh... joe is not in a good place yes yet to tell whether or not he's a sleaze bag or he's just a a a guy in a difficult position and we'll find out that uh... the former is the case

uh... so then i don't know about that he's a little bit of both he's a scandal uh... i would say i think he starts off as less of a scandal than he ends up that's true he's his performance really ramps up he and he had the first half of the movie nicole's unlike all came to close ages playing one of his nice guy roles in the second half of the movie i'm like

he's insane. This is, he is completely gone off around the bench. Yeah, and right from the jump we see, this is gonna be a high energy performance. Like, he is in this movie. There's no question. Yeah, this is not one of his, one of his like, Euro thriller roles where he's just kind of sleepwalking

through it. Like, he's really throwing himself. Yeah, this isn't kill chain. And I would, yes. I would say thank you. Exactly. Thank you. Yes, I would say that This character would be a man who has been You know driven around the bend by circumstance and a sympathetic figure but for one big factor that I think that we shall get to later. Oh, yeah, problem. I can't do it.

So cut to a big butt crack on the screen. And this is a gentleman who is working at the gas station in the seven eleven and uh... joe comes in paying for food he says some wacky nicklaus cage stuff before hearing something in the restroom a disturbance and he goes in and he sees a woman who is played by fronka patente who uh... you may know from run little run or the born identity. She's the titular run of Run Lola Run.

And the identity in Born Identity. Well, she's won in a way. She is one of the runs. The other one is run DMC, plays run number two. Right, right, run, yeah. It's, it's Frank Ap a tentay rundium c and low the mantis finally together in one fill and uh so uh she he sees this woman being uh choked by a large man in the restroom and um you know uh rightfully

uh assumes that she is being attacked and he tried he intervenes he chases the man off would beat them up a little bit i think you mean understandably assumes understandably as he does because he turns out not to be right well i mean i was well i was in fact thank you all you saw that i could not think of the word and you corrected me that we had passed that point but you know

uh... i mean but not very, not very much. Yeah, well anyway, she is instead mad that this choking has been interrupted. And she starts yelling that Nick Cage has ruined it. And I want to say that here's right off the bat. I want to say that the style of the movie is weird. The style is weird. The style is weird, and as the movie went on, I got more on its wavelength and vibe,

and started to enjoy the style, but I can't tell whether it's just making that adjustment or that the early scenes are done a lot worse. Like it's hard to say in my mind, because in these early scenes, I was like, everyone's talking so strangely and talking past each other. And nothing they're saying seems to connect with anything. And the framings are strange. Like, and then it all kind of resolved for me as it went along.

But I don't know whether you had this experience or not. I think the tone felt off the whole time for me. I mean I got what the movie was going for as we got into the second act but I really I was taking this movie more seriously than it wanted me to I think. Yeah there's that on on Wikipedia they mentioned that the director Maria Polera that says she initially wrote the film as a standard thriller but later made it quote a much more surreal drama in the vein of David Lynch and that kind of explains a lot yeah which is someone like

are you talking about the angelo bad lament a like yeah well and also the fact that like leader of the pack will start playing it's like it feels like someone looked at a David Lynch movie and was like, what does he do? Okay, it's kind of weird. And there's a lot of like 50s music, okay, got it. And instead of it coming naturally from them, and like even in a David Lynch movie,

he'll start off the movie with something that tells you, this is gonna be a weird movie. Like, the best example that is probably in Blue Velvet where everything looks fine, then there's that ear with all the ants on it. And it's like, okay, I'm gonna tell you exactly what this movie is right at the beginning. And she doesn't do that, and it feels like someone

trying to do that kind of thing, but it's not coming naturally to them. Yeah, it feels like, it feels like if this movie is made by somebody who wanted to capture the feeling of Twin Peaks, but only the James Hurley writing around on a motorcycle stuff. I mean everyone's favorite parts of twin peaks. Elliot is somewhat surprised at me that Wikipedia line unlocked the mystery for you and not the scene where they were sitting and the Angelo Baldimenti score sounded exactly like his

theme for Audrey. Like, just slightly tweaked so it was not too, I guess, in French upon his own copyright. Like, it could not have been more twin pixie than music. I mean, it wasn't until I read that that I was like, you should, well, I mean, I didn't, I read that relatively early, because I was also like, what's going on with this movie?

Hold on, I'm gonna have to take a look and see. Cause unlike you guys, I didn't get to watch it all in one sitting, dad life. Pfft. Hashtag dad life. Hashtag dad life. Gotta watch your movies and pieces. Yeah, but I will say that up top that the, yeah,

there's a theme by Angela Baddlementi that sounds like he just picked it out of his B-sides for Twin Peaks. And then there's a lot of uh... uh... score that sounds like people trying to do other uh... well lynch scores but anyway um... so he saves us well now why was why was she so mad that he interrupted her

choking well well before i get exactly to that i will i want to say that like she says she says that he's ruined it uh... they have like a lot of shouting out the in the uh... parking lot where at one point she like ask them whether he has uh... kids and he he goes

yeah i got a wife and kids whoops their dead and i'm like wow this is a lot for you to be loading on this woman right away nickles cage uh... that moment that moment was great for me though, because I, from the trailer, I thought this was going to be a more understated performance from Cage. And very early on, he just went full-gonzo. And I appreciated it, because then I just buckled up and I was ready for this movie to go off the rails.

Oh, and I feel like I was like like that's a big moment from him and then there seems later on where I was like, this is one of the understated minutes. During that scene I can almost see Franca put into like watching Nicholas Keaton like, okay I got to figure out how to match this guy because she is she's really like underplaying things in the beginning at least in a way that I really liked Frank of a ticket. Like she feels so much more real in this movie

than anybody else, which it turns out is not the way the movie wants anything to happen, but I actually liked her a lot, Miss. Yeah, I mean, she's always great and one of those people were like, okay, well, I wish that past a certain point, her career kept going the way it did at its peak, but um Anyway, she now we're all bummed. Who's someone whose career went past went the way at their peak that a cowboy and you didn't want it to happen Wait, did it kept having a peak?

Someone who kept having successes and you were like, oh, why could this person's career just go down here? Our president, boom, let's move on. Anyway, wow, topical, relevant, let's keep going. I'm making a stand. So she asked for a ride to the hospital because her daughter has been in an accident while racing her motorcycle. when when when she asked for this hospital ride cage here's some sirens and he seems spooked by them even though like the thing he said was he earlier was like 911s already been called like when rescuing her so i don't know whether he was lying about that it seems like a weird incr-congroody that he suddenly is like ooh the fuzz i gotta get out of here but um somebody filed that one under Goose. Mm-hmm. So her daughter is in a coma at the hospital at that moment

and Franca goes into this monologue about how she almost died as a kid. And I believe this is what we saw over the credits where she's in like a frozen lake. Over the credits, we see kind of two young girls like adolescent girls floating in a frozen lake and one of them seems awake and the other one seems not. Yeah. So what this has given her is the ability to go over to the other side, but only when she

cannot breathe, only when she is say being choked. And you know Nicholas Cage accepts this pretty well. I think he seems on board with it. And so we go to the hospital and Franca's daughter starts to code and the mom says hey Nicholas Cage my new friend you got to choke me. You got to choke me so I can go fix this. And I kinda am not sure what exactly she was supposed to have done on the other side, but it saves her daughter.

It's never clear. Yeah. I think she like usheres the spirit back into the body. Like that's kinda her role. She just points. And yeah, and so of course, Nicolas Cage, chokes her in a stairwell. And every time it feels like every time somebody gets choked, they have to get lifted up off the ground,

which is, I don't know, weird. It's like they're all being choked by superheroes. Yeah, that is, yeah. Um, so they have, uh, do you think, do you think she's pulling, she's pulling that move where she gets choked and then she ends up in the afterlife? And she's like, where's a supervisor I can talk to? Excuse me, excuse me, like, Charon is about to row her daughter across the River Sticks and she's like, where's your manager? Can I talk to your manager, please? And he's like, oh, Hey, he's is pretty busy right now. He's got to use marriage problem. Actually, I'm the manager. Sure you are. Can I do it?

Yeah, hey, hey, he's is like, hey, he's just like, Charon, can you not deal with this? I only get so much time with with Persephone. Can you just like take care of this? So as Franca is going out of the room, the nurse is talking to her and says like, it worked, but be careful she's been to the other side now. And I'm like, which is everyone understand the rules of this? Like was this nurse coming out? I mean, this is this is the kind of common thing where non-white people have a have a have

a stronger connection to the mystical realms than white people. And this nurse kind of had to know it's it's a real one. It's in the South. So there's like maybe a voodoo component. I don't know. I don't know. She did. She had an accent where you're not really sure what this nurse's deal is, why she knows that that's what Franco left the room. And she's like, well, she obviously

went to get choked. We don't know how she knows what's going on. But she does. It is a fairly racist stereotype. Wait, use the character. Sure, she's like a Caribbean possibly nurse. And so of course, she's all up on voodoo, I guess, and like can sense what's going on with souls.

And it's a, and when she comes back later, I was, she comes back later and I was like, oh, so I didn't dream that moment of random nurse. Now that was just keeping tabs on, I guess has a CB radio tuned into the spirit police ban No, no it's a Yeah, it's a it's a there's a long line of those things it does seem later on when she comes back It's just like okay well got to go to the local Miss Cleo. I have to fix this I guess Yeah, it was weird.

So during this time, Nicholas Cage is like a weird interaction with the daughter. Is she comes out of her coma? Does that happen around now? Is that later? Yeah, well, he has some visions of his dead wife, right? Yeah, well, he has dreams that seem to mix the life and daughter together, foreshadowing.

And the daughter wakes up and immediately like takes a Nick Cage like you know a duck and printing on her mother like but with like a sex thing not like you know what that was a terrible terrible metaphor point is she loves she loves the sky right off the bat and anyone else think that Nicholas Cage was psychic?

Because the way that the cuts happened throughout the film, there would be a kind of sneak peak of something else that happens later, flashing in front of him, where he'd be like, oh, yeah, let's do that thing. And then it would actually happen. I thought that he was psychic, too, that there was some kind of a connection. But then it was just the movie that was psychic, and knew what was going to happen. I thought that he was psychic too, that there was some kind of a connection, but then it was just the movie that was psychic and knew what was

gonna happen. I got the feeling it was one of those situations where he wasn't like psychic in general, but he had been found himself like caught up in this supernatural scenario where he was bound by destiny. Yeah, do you think there is a moment where he sat down with the filmmaker and was like, so I was in this movie next where I saw what happened next. I could just do that in this one too, right? Why don't I just like, wouldn't it make my character more interesting if he knew what was going to happen? And then it's like, he's guilty of everything because he could have kind of stopped it or whatever. Anyway, you only have me for five days, not kind of running out the clock with this conversation.

So you're gonna shoot some scenes, you're gonna let me just kind of use up all the time you booked me for, because then you gotta pay for more time. And the director's like, I can't believe I'm talking to Nicholas Cage, this is amazing. Yes, and so, Franca gets a ride home from Nick Cage and invite,

that's, yeah, gets a ride from Nick Cage's ride. Well, yeah, that's, yeah, it gets a ride from Nick Cage. Right. Well, yeah, she invites him in and he is a quick flash. Maybe he is psychic of them having sex at like a really quick flash and then he's like, yeah, sure, why not? So I guess that's a joke. And while she's getting stuff, Nicholas Cage keeps falling asleep and having these little visions,

which I guess is because he's a trucker and he's tired all the time as a trucker. He's a crossword trucker who is constantly popping caffeine pills and drinking from a flask. Yes. It was a very... I think even... I think the first thing he does after he saves Franca Patenta from being choked is he offers her like no-dose or something. Yeah. The first thing he does after he saves Franca Patenta from being choked is he offers her like no-dos or something.

Which is a normal way to interact with other people guys. Well, she's also a trucker, so like, that's just trucker etiquette, you know? Oh, right, right. Well, it is a, yeah, I don't know the culture. Our alarming portrait of Longhull truckers. Probably accurate due to the forces that make them do those long holes and have to drive so much but frightening. I want that to be the quote on the DVD box now from Between Worlds.

Probably accurate, Dan McCoy, the block house. I just know that there's a lot of pressure on them to do like, anyway. So she gives him whiskey and suddenly he doesn't want to have sex for a moment but then they have very aggressive sex right away. Like this is, you know, you got to work up to that. He's out of practice, you know. Zero percent chance that she enjoyed a second event. This is by far the most graphic sex movie I think Nicholas Cage has ever made, right?

Uh, just in turn. Oh, maybe. Oh, well. Is there one you can think of where he is in? His sex is more intense and vigorous, and also it is so clear that in some of the scenes he's not wearing clothes. Uh, we've got leaving Las Vegas. Yeah, leaving Las Vegas.

I remember there was a h.j. scene is a hand job that's a i do remember the h.j. i don't the handy but i don't remember anything else from the movie at all i just kiss his so he is so like either covering a woman's body or covered by a woman's body in the scenes in this movie in a way I'm not used to seeing what about Zandoli, Elliott? Zandoli?

The erotic thriller that also has Judge Reinhold in it. I've only seen the clips on YouTube that say worst accent ever, Zandoli. What's the space, that Galigan? Now here's the thing about this movie. Here's where I started thinking, hey movie. There's a good movie here about Nicholas Cage and Frank O'Pattonte as like two people who have been really beaten down by life and are kind of grudgingly and kind of reluctantly finding love with each other and aren't quite sure what to make of it

and aren't quite sure to what to make of each other and are fearful of getting close with someone again. That is not what this movie is though. This movie kind of teased me with a character study that I would have really liked and which I think the two of them could have handled really beautifully and then it went back into supernatural shenanigans. But for this brief moment, I was like, movie, you showed me what might have been. I mean, they even addressed thatonka potenta is German national who

move to the south mobile Alabama after marrying a marine and that is her ex-husbands you know trauma drove them apart especially when he found out that she could bring dead people back to life. Yeah that really threw me out. I got a counterpoint to what you just said, Alia, which is the movie you just described, sounds really boring, and there's no ghosts in it. So. OK, interesting. I mean, the movie I've described, there are many good movies

about two people who have been hurt by life who are trying to find love. I don't think so. They might be haunted, but there are no ghosts. Exactly. Exactly, exactly. Thank you. They're haunted by their pasts as opposed to haunted by a ghost that it's weird. It feels like it doesn't feel like so, so, uh, Penelope Mitchell plays the daughter who

has what we'll find out is has, has, has Joe's wife inside her. But it was almost like the ghost was doing a bad impression of Joe's wife. That was the, like, I, it felt really weird it felt really weird it was like does this ghost really know who she's talking to or any of those things okay well before move on though i would i do want to say it's been a while since you brought it up but with regard to the uh... number of sex scenes in this involving Nicolas cage i found this uh... from the director there's an interview with the director

it's not that illuminating because um Dan everything is illuminating though yes I know it's called everything is illuminated but come on okay anyway the yeah it's a reach you get I do have this one quote I wanted to read which goes we kept adding sex scenes like we had Nicholas Cage with three different ladies in the movie and we just had eight or nine sex scenes we just kept adding them and adding them. It works pretty well but when you see the end result of the movie it works. But when you're telling everyone, wait, wait, we have two more sex scenes here. They're going, what? I wonder how

many of those sex scenes were added day of shooting. Were they like, can we actually just do a reset and do another one of these? They they like, can we actually just do a reset and do another one of these? They're like, it's raining and we don't have anything. We only have outdoor scenes to shoot, I guess. Strip them off next time. We need to have some more. You've got to dynamo like Nick Cage on set.

You got to get as many sex scenes tape as you can and figure it out later. Especially when Nicholas Cage is in. Let's just say it, perfect shape. Well, I don't want to, on the one hand, I, look, he's got a perfectly fine, like middle-aged man's body, like a normal middle-aged man's body. I don't want to shame anyone, but there is like a funny part later on where like, Cage is like flirting with Frank Apprentice and he's like, oh, you know, I sleep in the nude and he's like taking a shirt on and it's like that.

Is that a problem? And she's like giggling and she's like waving her hand over his entire torso. And it's like, yeah, this is a problem. And it's impossible not to take it as like, yeah, in the case you don't look great in this movie compared to like the of greasy and oily in the movie. He looks like he has never showered. I think he does take a shower in one scene and he comes out still looking like he has never been. He does get hosedown. That's true. That's fairly hosedown. That scene, well when we get to it I'll talk about it.

It reminded me of a scene in the Nicholas Cage Elijah Wood movie, what the pact was that what it was called and where he is just doing you just see him doing a dance to entertain his co-workers And I'm like this is when I like Nicholas Cage the most when he's like just doing silly stuff to fill out a montage Okay, well anyway getting back to we left off Stewart was right Fronka patente gave for the whole story about her life and then there's a title card that says, three days later, and Cage is stuck around. It's a little weird that there's this one title card in the movie, by the way, for such

a short span of time. I hope it is done for effects, because otherwise it's a strange choice, but he still... It feels like it was added later when they were watching it and they were like, hmm, would she really be coming home the next day from the hospital? Yeah. Let's make it through. And also he was on his way to deliver his truckload to Blocsy and is now three days late to deliver, which is going to be a problem.

I did a little research. That's an under-hour drive. That drive from Mobile to Boraxi's under an hour. He could have gone and come back easily. There's no reason he couldn't have said, okay, you have lunch. I'll be back in a little bit after I drive myself. Oh, that is amazing.

Stewart, I'm glad you did some geographic detecting there. Those are real kind of the AGO stuff. So, okay, the daughter. So earlier, when Dan's called him a long haul trucker, I don't know if that's happened. He should say haul trucker. Look, I was... I think that's more of a career.

I was relying on the movie's missing scene. I didn't go to the external source of a map. It's so funny if he's like, he stops and they're like, we ordered this pizza three days ago. How are you just delivering it now? So okay the daughters come back from the hospital, Nick is stuck around, stuck around. He's putting her to- And stunk around, he got us in.

He's after us in, based on, yeah. But he's putting her to bed. He says, the more you the better you feel and the better you feel the more you'll heal and I think the line is both meant to be funny and it is still though And she lunges at him saying that he's always leaving her and she wants a kiss goodbye and there's some Driving guitar in the background that hard rock suddenly jumps in. And, you know, Franca has a little soul searching. She blames herself for her daughter falling in

with a bad crowd that wants to street race. And they don't even want to like, you know, rob banks or anything to finance it. And. I mean, they are drug dealers. Oh, really? Is that why the robbing and later on, I best that part of it. Yeah

Yeah, that was I may you might have missed one of the several times when when Frank referred to them as drug deal Well, they seem like steel drugs from him to they are the most likeable characters though They just seem like a couple of well-meaning goofballs Frank of attendees clearly the most likeable character in the movie. She's just a mom trying it trying to get the job Don't even if that means being strangled. I guess I am reacting to the degree to which their actual attitude seems to clash with what like danger. They are the Rosencrantz and Guildenstern of this movie.

Yeah, yeah, that's true. And you like that punk music that they're listening to in their house. There's some black, black flag there. Yeah, that's what teenagers do is they listen to black flag house. There's some black flag there. Yeah. That's what teenagers do. Is they listen to black flag and smoke weed and then dance to it? Yeah, a little bit with a woman who is there for a second and then walks away and we never see her again. And maybe they imagine her.

Yeah, I love all of it. I would. If anything, she chose the right time to leave. Maybe she was a plant. Maybe she was like the lookout. She's like, OK, they're good and high and all worked up from their black flag music. I'm going to sneak out and you can go bust them like the lookout. She's like, okay, they're good and high and all worked up from their black flag music. I'm gonna sneak out and you can go bust them in the head.

Maybe she was there to buy weed and they were like, well first we got a dance and she's like, oh god, I always have to dance with Rick before I had leave. So, Cage is leaving. He's comforting franca he takes a swing of the prescription medicine behind her back uh... which is a little funny moment and his boss is in my opinion extremely reasonably mad that he's three days late delivering the shit i think he is very reasonably that does not want to pay yeah he's he's docked he's docking him for his time in the school skates acting like

this is a huge injustice well he in fact as that's doged he's docking him for his time and Nicholas Cage is acting like this is a huge injustice Well, he in fact says that's dog shit. It's not even bullshit. It's dog shit And to compound to the problems repo men come and take his truck that has all his personal stuff from his dead wife and daughter in there Anyway, so cage returns to the the house with the ladies, because he's got no place else to go in the words of an officer and a gentleman. And he's walking around.

Now, who said it, the officer or the gentleman? Check your notes. You're allowed to use notes for this part of the gentleman. Check your notes. You're allowed to use notes for this part of the test. Yeah, this is not for memory. Did you put it on the program and into your TI-82 calculator? Sorry, no, sorry. No, just a look at my notes. And I like skipped it.

I skipped ahead, but I didn't really skip ahead of anything that important. Just the daughter acting weird around the house and the friends wanting to come in and see her. Although, it's funny. There's a line that I like which endeared these two Dufus drug dealers to me where most likable characters in the movies is wrong.

Franca is like blaming them for everything that happened and saying that like they suck and And the one guy doesn't realize they're talking about them and the other guy explains like no she means us and he goes We kind of suck, but we're not that influential and I love that Oh wow, that's kind of that's kind of me. Oh wow look into a mirror. That's rough Yeah, so this is the moment where like it seems like the movie that you guys were looking for, the idea that you were looking for, Elliot, where like, he, it looks like Nicholas Cage has burned through his last bridge.

He has no where else to go. He convinces Francho Patenta's character to let him stay there. They have like a kind of fun scene of them sitting around, smoking weed and being weird and laughing about the concept of goo goo eyes. And then the whole time, the daughter, Billy is watching it, making kind of weird faces. And then they start, Nicholas Cage and Frunk of Potent has started having a very strange love making session

on the couch. This is, I have to assume this is all Nicholas Cage ad live. I have to assume. And the daughter's billy is still watching the scene and I feel like at this point, she's the audience surrogate. Like she's like, what am I watching? What is Nicholas Cage requesting specifically from Frank a patente in this scene? I don't have my notes, Ellie. That he talked it, that he, she talked to him like Linda Blair in the exorcist.

Right. Oh. He's saying, he's saying, say, say, fuck me, fuck me like Linda Blair. Come on, say it like in the exorcist. You know, like in the exorcist. And it's such a weird request. And again, I don't want to kank shame anybody. If your thing is pretending that I guess you're Max von Sydau and your partner is Linda Blair

and she's a possessed girl and you're actually doing it with the devil. That's totally okay but it is a strange thing to suddenly be brought in as an interest for Nicholas Cage's character. No I think that what you're saying is Elliot is it's beyond specific and to like obscure and strange uh... the in oddly foreshadowing what happens in the i was not to i was not surprised to learn that about half of the movie was improvised at dialogue wise it seems to be a nicklaus cage i think was just it would be the thing like they covered the camera he didn't know when it was

running in when it wasn't and he just like went wild oh i bet he would have loved that. Yeah. So he doesn't know what they're capturing and what they're not. Now this is when Billy enters what I would refer to as her underpants version of the movie. I do want to read what I have in my notes, which is that she spies on them as they're fixing the truck.

And then she walks aggressively, brawlessly down the hall, looking at her family photos as if she doesn't recognize them like like i mean i understand if you're at home you don't want to wear a bra i i i get it i do not have a pandemic times like nobody's wearing bra uh... i will say this though about that scene specifically i had a strong reaction to that because

uh... the actors who plays billy she's she's not perfectly symmetrical and i really appreciated that they just kind of let her be asymmetrical and because that's many many women's bodies are asymmetrical in that way the rest of the front sizes hang different lengths and uh... and it was

like oddly really affirming and felt very body positive. Is the line, their sister's not twins? I can't remember what it means. I find it heartwarming by extension that you are finding something heartwarming in the movie. I like that. I was really, this is like a really feminist movie. I mean. Oh yeah, right up to Mustang and yeah, sure. So Billy's behaving strangely.

She's clearly not behaving like a teenage girl would. Or maybe not, I don't know. But there's something up. I mean, I think that's very next thing. I think don't so much routinely trick drifters into seeing them knew. Well, right, that's the very next thing is that Nicholas Cage goes to P and sees the daughters,

but as she looks at herself nude in the mirror, and she kind of looks around at him and acknowledges that he's seen her and it's disturbing. And he's probably around when I started saying, stop it to my TV over and over. The first half of this movie really feels like it's just the daughter staring kind of menacingly, but we don't really know why and nobody's saying

specifically what's happening or just kind of dancing around it and it's just her kind of given looks. Yeah what's what's interesting about the movie is there's no Slow drip of information really it's like what's this mystery and then it seems like everybody in the movie suddenly knows Oh, yeah, yeah, his wife's ghost is in her body like there's no everyone just is kind of on board Suddenly at some moment the switch is split, you know and directly after the spoiler alert directly after this is one of the key scenes in the films where Nick Cage and the daughter are watching TV where where Franco Potente is like it looks like she's got like a piglet that she's cooking I could even it seems like it was some kind of home maybe as a whole rabbit I thought it was a rabbit or a squirrel. I thought it was a rabbit.

So she's sun-beast with the head on that has been plucked clean of skin and fur that's just on a big pan that she's sticking in the end. She's dealing with this while they're watching television and the daughter is inappropriately stroking Nick Cage's jeans and then throws like a blanket over his lap To disguise the hand job that we are so we must only assume that he is receiving at that point And he makes the world's least strong effort to get up and avoid this Happening by saying oh I could help you in the kitchen and she's like no, no, it's fine I don't need it.

And he stays there, and it happens. And this is the scene that I was just wearing. She's a well-I tried. Earlier, where he was like, one could posit a film where Nicholas Cage is a sympathetic man who is brought low by the fact that his dead wife appears to them in the form of the daughter of the woman he has gotten involved with and there's conflict over that and like missing her and guilt

over her and then like there's a horrifying reveal that we'll get you later at the end of this movie except for the fact that Nicolas Cage even before he knows that this is his wife is like I guess I'll accept this answer. Dan, if you had ever seen, there's a series of short documentaries online that posit this very scenario. And if you had ever seen this, you would be impressed at his restraint

and that it does not go all the way to full intercourse while his ostensible new girlfriend is cooking in the other room. You would think within clear sight and yet in these documentaries the other person in the room in the kitchen area never seems to notice what's happening on just behind the couch and so these documentaries are available all over the internet. I can't remember exactly who produced them just now. Those documentaries I feel, are more an ad

for kitchen islands, and they're ability to cover an entire person's body. Yeah. But yeah, I mean, you'd be amazed at how common this apparently is, this same scenario, because I've seen so many of these little short documentaries online. There are lots of different hubs.

Lots of different hubs, yeah. Many hubs in which you can find these. Yeah. Yeah, I feel like this is this is also a point when I think it really strikes home that that no blankets on the laps should be more common. There is. There is. There's. What are you doing there? So that's what was going on in his wheelchair. I see Dan, okay sure that you would think even if nothing was actually going on there It would be weird if Nicholas Cage and and Billy were sharing a blanket. It's just a weird thing Yeah, you got a you got a warm up on a cool Alabama night Yeah, so you're right. This is his lack of resistance to this is skewie.

Yes, I mean, and again, it could be, that could be the point that the movie is making, that this guy is like not a nice guy full stop, despite the fact that he's had all these hardships in the world. But that's that there's a, there's a, there's a, there's a, there's a, there's a, there's a version of this movie that has no supernatural stuff in it where he is a guy who is not a bad guy but he has no impulse control and he

makes bad decisions all the time. And he's start trying to start a relationship and he keeps screwing it up because he can't get out of his own way because he's his own worst enemy. Like there are movies like that and they're very good movies. I know you think they're boring because they don't have ghosts in them but you know they they happen all the way that's not a ghost just uh... trauma like a cycle trauma repeating itself over and over

yeah but even the movie you're describing all it his behavior would be what's it's like a simple that it is what i'm saying oh no no it would be it would be sent the overall consult of a of a man who cannot stop himself from doing the wrong thing. But in the moment, you'd be like, come on, what are you doing? Don't do that, come on. Which is, here I was like, movie, don't do this, come on, movie, don't do this. Yeah, stop it.

Yeah. I do think this was a turning point where I stopped trying to root for him. Yeah. As a character. That's fair. I think that's for him. As a character. That's fair. I think that's very fair. Yeah. OK.

Well, so. This is kind of like the Cheddar Goblin moment of Mandy. Where you're like, dude, I know something terrible happened to you, but look at the commercials that are on TV in this crazy world you live in. Like, go for it. How can it be mad when there's a cheddar goblin on your TV? I don't understand that analogy so Nick fixes neither do I Dan and I made it the daughter's

motorcycle and meanwhile the daughter is being mean to franca about her dad leaving um And Nick is uh we cut to him squeaking jack Daniels directly out of the bottle and he's yelling on the phone because they will not give His personal possessions back the photos of his wife and daughter in such because they're in the truck and this is where we learned the backstory of their death he went away on a job and the wife We presume at this point accidentally set the house on fire with her cigarette and uh... killing his five-year-old daughter as well as the wife

and i got to say it like throughout this movie i like cages performance and uh... this is legitimately affecting acting from him like the characters nutty and ill-thought-out and the the movie is wacky, but I think he is doing his best with that material to make it have some paythos. Oh, I would always rather see Nick Cage going for it wholeheartedly than see him holding back, and like, the thing that makes this movie like watchable to me is the fact that he is he is just letting himself loose rather than I think the two leads are pretty good like they put

effort in on some level yeah I think it probably helps that like you're saying Dan if a lot of it was ad lib then he was probably like okay good then I get to be the author of this to a certain extent and that means I actually have to put him energy into it. He's not playing ghost writer which is ironic because he has sex with a ghost in this movie. It is ironic. Aaron did you want to say something? Sorry I feel like. You know I have no memory of what I was going to say but okay. I just didn't want to skip over it. Oh, you know, I think I was going to say that. I think I was going to say that Frank Gup Tente was

putting real energy into creating a character and grounding that character in this kind of wacko world that she was coming at it from a real place of a mother whose daughter almost died. And then Nicholas Cage took that same amount of energy and put it into his facial expressions and his voice modulation. They both were at 100% in different ways. Yeah. That's true.

So Fraca goes and she pays the guy to get these memories of Nick Cage. Meanwhile, he is not holding his end of the bargain. The contract. The contract. He is not repaying her kindness well because he is, uh, continues to lust over her, uh, Franca's daughter, uh, who is lounging at home in her underwear, coming onto him. And she calls him majors and he's like, like, how do you know my last name? I'm like, have you not told these people your last name?

What? He's been with them for weeks. Yeah. But like, he's freaked out because she says that she is married, his dead wife, you know, confirming what we already all suspected at this point. And I don't know, like, I guess the nurse sort of talks about it being like, oh, you know, spirits just hang out around people, and that's how this happens. But it did kind of, I don't know, I thought it was funny that like,

okay, you know, Nicholas Cage happens to like walk into this girls hospital room and because i guess his dead wife has just been walking behind him for years however long she's been dead what she's like now's my chance in jumps in i don't know it seems like a crazy way for the i mean it it pretty clearly is a situation where franca patente's character uh... just botched her summoning role and instead of summoning her

daughter's ghost back she summoned the wrong ghost like sometimes that happens like sometimes if you fuck it up bad enough you'll summon like a minor demon or something that demon will pretend to be your daughter for a little bit luckily I don't think that's the case here unless you think Mary his wife was a demon demon a demon that would be crazy you need to figure out what that is yeah then you'll have to hire like angel to take care of it and you know it's tough so many moments where i think for a little bit more time and yes a little bit

more budget uh... they could have blown this world out in a really interesting way where every time she goes into this kind of summoning strangling kind of state to see all the spirits that are around. Like, you're in a hospital. Why would there just be Mary Majors there? I feel like that room would be packed with people. And to make it seem like, oh, well, I have to be sure that I'm concentrating enough to get Billy specifically to come into the

body or something. It just seemed real. And also the wife looked to me a lot like Billy and I had trouble like they just seemed they both had blonde curly hair. It just You know, I feel like it could have been a more interesting thing to know more about Frank a potente's gifts and what exactly she does and how she does it Well, I've two things to say to that. One, I imagine it is because they look so similar that Frank of Tente just shoved the first blonde ghost that she saw back in her daughter's body and it turned out to be Lydia Hearst.

That's right, in her second flop house movie, the first being the haunting of Sharon Tate. And two, it would have been really cool, I guess, to see like, yeah, what the afterlife is like, and maybe there's like a waiting room and like Sylvia Sidney is there and she's smoking up a lot of cigarettes and she's got to talk to like a guy with a little shrunken head And like maybe Alec Baldwin and Gina Davis and has to like kind of help them to get Back into the person world and just like, you know, I've never seen that in movie before

If only if Mary had had better like guidelines of what to do after she died if there were some kind of... Yeah, like a book, a book versus. Yeah. ...that could guide her to what to do, you know. And maybe in the time that they were away, Joe's truck had been bought by some like yuppies from the city. And they really like art house did up, you know, and they're having like a party for their

friends and their daughter is there and their daughter's like real goth. And maybe Michael Keaton shows up in his famous role of clean and sober that's right he's trying to kick the drugs from his system but first he's got to help these ghosts oh yeah I you know I I both agree with what you have to say Aaron but I also I'm kind of charmed by the degree to which this movie is like okay in a normal if like if this was a horror thriller, that's what would happen. But we are only interested in this ghost thing in so much as it is an engine to drive our like, Todddry family melodrama. Like, and it reminded me of before everything went to hell, we saw a Color out of space at

Almodrafthouse, so they did like a simul cast of or probably a re-broadcast actually. I don't know of like Nick Cajon Richard Stanley talking about that movie, which is like a crazy HP Lovecraft movie and Nick this case was talking about how much he loves family hosted by the two normalist guys But the funny thing to me was like like they're like what a tragedy as soon as well I always love family dramas or something like that I'm like oh in this case just thinks of all these crazy things as family dramas like that's that's what he loves this is normal to him yeah mm-hmm he lives a very interesting life. Mm-hmm.

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is that what gets him going? That's crazy. I mean, he's really into exorcist play so possibly. Yeah, yeah. Look, if you think he should have put up more resistance to the idea that he should have sex with the daughter of his girlfriend, you will not get an objection from me. I think they should have put up all the resistance. But I do think that there is an interesting moment of like she convinces him and like there, like I think he has a performance has this moment of like fear and emotional confusion and like just like not understanding how this could be possible.

But knowing that it is that would be really affecting if again he hadn't already accepted a hand job from this person in a previous scene. I think he even says, I don't deserve this. And I'm like, yeah, I don't think you do. I think maybe it's a slippery slope. He didn't realize he was going down when he accepted the first job That uh, but it just shows he hasn't seen enough of these little short documentaries that are online It's like I kind of can't avoid them. They seem to be everywhere, but they pop up

There is pop it literally pop up. Yeah, and it's let it'll be like a dollar only and I'm like all right I have a dollar for the finest in new reality nonfiction filmmaking okay sure okay well anyway they hear the mom returning uh fronka takes a little moment to sit in the driveway looking through the personal stuff and then she comes in and cages understandably acting very weird um and there's more than more than more than no. And then there's the great scene where now I'm not entirely sure whether this is meant to have actually happened or as part of the dream sequence that follows but Franca is watching Nick Cage and her daughter spray one another with a hose and Nicholas

Cage. This is 100% happening. Okay, well, Nicholas Cage has a leather pants on and a big belt buckle and sunglasses. And he's like thrusting his pelvis out while she sprays water on him. Like it's like a 1980s Playboy video ad or like it is crazy. These two are having some fun in the sun,

splashing around with his hose. Now when you say plain booby-go, you mean Playboy documentary. Yeah, documentary about, and he talks about the other one. He suggests a golden shower, which is a fun thing to do, when he's spraying you with water to assume

that in his head he's thinking about your, there's so much as- I told you, Aaron is so much so refreshing I kind of wonder it's like is this is this what he thinks the character would say or is it the kind of thing that Nick was cage would say while he's spraying you with a hose and I'll unfortunately I'll go to my grave never knowing the answer to that question but but I take this as something that's happening and he is so, they've just totally stopped pretending around Franca pretending that they are not in a relationship because he's so out of his mind with bliss because he's finally found his wife again and

maybe when his wife was alive before she wasn't into being sprayed with the hose but now she's like, I died once, what's the worst that can happen? Sure, let's be sprayed with the hose, but now she's like I died once what's the worst that can happen sure Let's be sure the hose she was all burned up in a fire. She probably wants to get Sprayed with water all the time, right? Very good point. Yeah, that's very Distressing to me for reasons I can't quite understand No, I this if there's any reason to see the movie

Like if they're in single single reason it's the scene. Yes, look at that YouTube if it if it's out there in the world It's got to be Anyway, so after this it's very gifable somebody should give it yeah It was super fun to watch it was very enjoyable to watch Well, this is the scene. I was talking about where So there's this in that in that Nicholas Cage, Elijah Wood movie, he has to go undercover as a casino worker so that they can like rob this casino.

And there's this montage which just him ingratiating himself with his new co-workers and he's telling them some story at lunch and they're all laughing and he's getting up and dancing for them to make them laugh. And it just looks like Nicholas Cage is having so much fun being like a real goofball. And it's like, I wish he played more goofballs that are not tormented or tortured goofballs

but are just like goofballs. Well, it's also, it feels like this scene feels like if one of those gross hardy scumersholes with models, like suddenly turned into an ad for Crocodile Mile, like with the water, like spraying all over the place. Anyway. mile like the water like spraying all over the place. Anyway, so Franca dreams that she comes upon them having sex but wakes up clutching her chest in fear and mom and daughter have and comfortable conversation were there. Not very subtly fighting over Joe and the daughter calls her dad her mom's husband. you know, a tip off there.

And Franca tries to rekindle the fire by sucking on Nicholas Cage's finger a little bit in bed, but his mind is down the hall. And look, I'm reading my notes that are, you know, obviously arranged chronologically, the traditional way to arrange notes on a story. And you mean you didn't cut up your notes and throw them in the air and then tape them together however they feel? The point is I will read like a scene that comes after another scene.

I'm like, surely that scene didn't happen that quickly after the past scene. Like, it feels so disjointed reading them as like individual scenes. I'm like, because the next scene is the daughter picking up a knife and starting acting like she's gonna kill her mom and like, and she's saying she's gonna come between us, you know, like, and it's like, wow, that is, that comes right in the heels of this like sex dream fake out. Like, it seems like there's just no connective tissue to this movie. Yeah, it seems like that.

So like she has a, uh, uh, Frogger Potenta has a dream where her new boyfriend is having like there's just no connective tissue to this movie. Yeah, it seems like that. Okay. So like she has a, Franca patenta has a dream where her new boyfriend is having sex with her daughter. And then the movie kind of just rolls into it like a weird series of sex montages, right? Yes. Well, that's... And the mom, she goes to talk to the nurse. Yes, that's what, first what happens is Franca goes and meets with the nurse who, as we

said, knows everything about soul transference. And I guess Franca has decided that she has realized what's going on that someone else's soul is in the daughter. And meanwhile, at home, the daughter and Nick Cage are fucking in several different rooms. As Stewart says, it's clipped up in a montage so that it makes it clear that this is just like like it's happening all over the place. And Nick Cage is reading to her from a book that is called Memories by Nicholas Cage. And I'm trying to, where I remember her request. She goes, she goes, she goes, read me memories. And now what I, I remember the name on the front of the cover being misspelled, that Nicholas is spelled with an H, but maybe I'm misremember remembering that. So maybe that's his numb de plume, Nicholas

age with an H but Dan you said you did some research on this and this this montage is him having sex with Billy and him having sex with Mary. In the birth of his truck. In the back of his truck. Yeah. Yeah. So it's a little bit him and Billy in the house and a little bit him and Mary in the truck and it is this is the other reason to watch this movie is just that the the sheer manic energy that Nicholas Kaye just pouring into these scenes And there's a part where they're having sex and just goes Like someone doesn't a movie when they've just had a really powerful line of cocaine and it's like is that what he's like and bed Like you know, it says memory so I assumed that this was supposed

to be a memoir in the world of the movie, but it's referred to as poetry in the behind-the-scenes stuff that I've read. So, at first I thought it was a screenplay for Katsuhiro Otomo's memories, but he doesn't at any point mention about four space guys finding a weird ghost Space station. No or another guy becoming a living biological weapon or a city that's entirely built around just feeding ammunition into guns No, none of that but no, but what is that? Stewart as someone who is currently three and a half volumes into rereading a kira I understand exactly what you're talking Someone in the what is happening in the world of the film is merely that Joe is having sex while reading a loud erotic poetry by the actor Nicholas Cage who also exists.

And we see him having sex with Mary in the birth of the truck also reading it that that is her kink that she has carried over into the land of the dead and back again. I mean, the thing is that like that is kind of every guys fantasy is a woman who wants to hear the poetry that he's yeah because often it is not the case uh... show anyway yeah the well the little research i did dan and steward do some deep soul searching after early and i mean that poetry specifically but i know what he's talking about uh... well i know i know dan would rather have a have a woman who likes to listen to his

his mysteries where he and his two best friends that's right archie the cat and the ghost of his previous cat lulu solve mysteries no i just and minus one to like you know i want my uh... bail ego flattered by someone pretending to give a shit when i talk about how return of the living dead relates to night of the living dead because of the

copyright problems that John Russo had with George Romero and But I know in my heart that this is all bullshit nonsense that no one should care about and it is wrong to expect my partner to care about it either. Just because I'm an idiot. And for me, I just want to be able to explain the intricately crafted dungeon that I've built for four unlucky adventurers in all the devious traps I've set before. So I think that we are laying our like male ego monstrousness bear on this podcast the way that we never have before but anyway. I mean from the female ego perspective I also often give my husband things I've written to

read and tell him at the outset just tell me it's great. That's the note that I want from you. Yeah that's I mean that's the note that I want from you. Yeah, that's the best, look, speaking from the other side, I love instruction. If I'm told to tell you it's great, I will tell you it's great. Nicholas Cage, this is about the memories, and this is what I found online. He was asked about reading the Nicholas Cage book memories in this movie and he said, well, I thought it was extremely funny. And any time you can break the fourth wall, pushing the envelope in terms of traditional or narrative,

as an experiment worthy of trying. I'd never done anything like that to read a book by the actor who's playing the character. I was inspired by the novels of Henry Miller, a tropic of cancer, a Tropic of Capricorn. I always thought there were not only sensual, but hilarious in terms of the Bracadochio of Henry Miller, that he would go into great detail about his adventures in the sensual realm. And I wanted to bring a little of that kind of humor to between worlds with that

concept. So that was the thinking success of Nick. Yeah, he did it. Who wrote those. The rising success. Who wrote those. The rising success. He wrote those. At the park. Looking at that same interview, Dan, just reading slightly ahead, they asked him if that was a real memoir, what anecdote would be in it, and he tells a long story about how much he loves prints.

Which is not something I ever knew about him. That's great. Okay, so getting back to the actual plot of this story. So this is after the very long sex montage, which again is something I never expected to see in a Nicholas Cage movie. And I got, I don't know if it was the enjoyment that I was supposed to get from it, but I did get genuine, some kind of enjoyment from it. Yeah, and so, okay. But it comes to a tragic and right here uh... fronka pulling up into the driveway and it cage uh... as joe he goes what

was that and billy says it was the cat and he goes you don't have a cat you don't have a cat and fronka gets mad finding them having sex with one another and things in the movie and the term is understandably understand we met and the movie the movie rapidly escalates from here this is when it shifts into a different gear Nick K. She also she just spent $500 getting him his box of memories yes because that was what the truck boss wouldn't let him have it less he gave five hundred dollars of the debt he owed and i get the sense

that five hundred dollars is a lot of money to these people so this family they are not they are not podcasters five hundred dollars is a real trunk of change it's not like it is to us and so yeah i i feel like the insult to injury that she also just spent five hundred dollars of her hard-earned money uh... well he was spawning her daughter yes no she is the only true sympathetic person screen yes to feel it except for the two except for those two goofy drug dealers that you like so i mean

they provide a needed service to the community and so for their essential workers and that's why that they're elicit underground drug deal ring keeps is allowed to keep running during the quarantine. So Nicholas Cage, for Ancassmad, Nick Cage comes out to try and explain in the tiniest banana hammock underwear that is like this pattern thing. I was not able to catch the pattern, sir. Do you know what it was? You're nodding. I mean, it looked like it looked like some kind of a like a jungle cat print. It looked very cool. It fit perfectly with his black t-shirt, many bracelets and rings, and a black t-shirt with a shiny alligator face emblazoned upon it. And well, anyway, he's trying to explain to Fraco why he's done this. And he says the line at one point I'm sorry to say this Billy is dead that is Mary and so I guess everything's cleared up so the

only happily ever after once he's mean of anything you kind of got all applaud is his effort I mean he is very direct and she she says you got to fix this and he says what do you expect me to do kill my wife? That's more of a Jimmy Stewart, but you get the idea and Right then Billy comes out and Bloodions Franca in the head and knocks her out cold Yeah, it's moments after Franca potente looks at Nicholas Cage and says, put your fucking pants on your gross. And he says, like, why would you say that?

What makes you say that? And then the camera pulls back to give you a full view. And you're like, yeah, that's cool. That's an intentional joke. Yeah, I think there's more. Looking at the in retrospect, I think there's more more legit more actual men's jokes in this movie than I thought first watching it. Oh, and I think a lot of it's intentional whether you can say it's successful

Another thing but I mean the fact that I wasn't sure whether they meant it or not. Maybe means it's less than successful So anyway, we cut to Billy's doofus friends being stone and listening to black flag and dancing around as we said earlier Billy knocks at the door to rob them. I kind of zone out for half a second. I'm not sure what went wrong but Nicholas Cage storms in and beats the dudes with a bat. There's a struggle with one of the friends and that friend is shot and killed next to him. Hopper pen. Yeah I just didn't I just missed the part where like why Nick Cage jumped in with his bat. Oh, because they never say it outright. We're supposed to just know that they're going to rob them. Okay.

Yeah, at this point, I think they're at the phase of the adventure where they just go around bonking people on the head to knock them out. Okay. Almost like a bonks adventure. Unfortunately, the graphics are less than turbo. So the one of the do duefaces gets killed. The one who says they're not that influential. And the other guy shows up with a gun to threaten Franca,

like asking, hey, what the fuck's up with your boyfriend coming in with your daughter and rubbing our drugstash, which is a fair question and killing someone in the mix. Not just someone, his best friend and business partner. Meanwhile, Billy possessed by Mary. Mary's taking Nick Cage back to their old house where he has visions of his dead daughter and burned bodies and such. And it was very confusing to me as to what part our visions are not or whether like half the house's birds and half got rebuilt or half never got

burnt like there's like a part of the house that seems totally fine that he's in except for there's like a smoke damage jack in the box that he picks up and he focuses a lot of emotional energy on this jack becomes yes now when you rent a location to film uh film, you have to return it to the state it was in before you arrived when you leave. And so I think it's just a lot easier to just burn the inter, like the hallway when you're first walking, you just treat the foyer, make that look burned, and then just put some trash on the ground in the other room.

So I say, well, this is general fire fire. Yeah, I thought you were going to say that when you ran to the spade from the fire, it's easier to just burn half of it. Yeah, just burn half of it. You know, the rebuild half a house. Save half your money. Yeah, sure. Yeah, but it also, even, they even find the bed that his wife supposedly burned up in or

something and it's just like pushed slightly like the like the beds made better than the one in my apartment. Yeah nice. Um, I don't know, I said nice. So maybe, maybe he put a, yeah, I don't know who was what is nice in that situation. Maybe, maybe, maybe he put the truck up as collateral for a loan to get the best bed on the market. Yeah, yeah. The unburnable bed. So the between Z is bed, it's called.

I wasn't sure if he was having visions of his daughter or if that was just again the movie doing these cuts because it was never it was never clear to me when like is it a vision or is it just the movie trying to be weird yeah yeah i was like the true mission of madness it was hard to tell if whether it was real or maxell it was hard to tell if she was born with it or maybe it's maybe lean it was just very it was it was very confusing yeah aley i told you about accepting money under the table and then trying to slip these ads into the podcast. I don't know what you're talking about it. Make it your way.

A Burger King? Is that what they say? So meanwhile, back at the ranch, living drug dealer is talking to Franca and he's like a ghost is taking over Billy's body. How do we find them? And she says you got to choke me. Okay. He's like all allow it. So back at the burnt house cage in the burned wing of the burnt house cage has started a generator and puts a string of light sockets, create a romantic atmosphere and cage is drunkenly talking about how he didn't feel

he'd served her ever. He doesn't deserve anyone. He's a mess. He's an emotional mess by this point. And the ghost busters. Which to be fair, let put yourself in his situation. You're a grieving widower. You're already in trouble with the guys who,

you have a loan on to buy your truck. And now you finally found a friend, maybe even a lover. And suddenly your wife's ghost is taken over that lover's daughter and forcing you into a life of crime. And now she's taken you back to your old house and you're like, this is not the way I wanted her to see the house. I was supposed to clean it up when she came back to life. And you know, it's just a lot to carry.

No, this is a man who has been emotionally destroyed understandably again a little easier to synthesize if but for that and job. But anyway, so Dan far be it far be it for me to defend that action I would not. But you know what you got gotta find your small joys where you can in this life, you know? So even villains are the heroes of their own story, right? I mean, you gotta imagine some of the villains

know that they're the villains, right? Like when a villain is like, hmm, I'm going to destroy the world. You have to know that they have to be like, hmm, well, this doesn't really benefit anyone, including me, maybe I am the villain. So anyway, Fraka, I guess Ulttime must think he's the hero right for robots

uh... uh... but what about like uh... what about like uh... like and they know things he's the hero yeah okay sure you gotta find you gotta find one there's gotta be some but like mafisto must know that he's not the hero right uh... yeah he's not like uh... yet check the comic book cover dude it says mafisto tales right

anyway uh... franca and the like you got to assume the penguin knows that he's a bad guy right the penguin isn't like from another point of view batman's the villain and i'm the hero they try to make him really sympathetic in bad man returns i mean to a point but nothing really nothing really forgives him and you're right and no one bad can run for mayor politics is a dirty game no matter how you slice that

why would you slice politics though like why you slice not politics i'm i even as a kid even as a kid i remember being thrown by how quickly they dropped the mayoral raise storyline in that movie. Also, when he's like, we're not even gonna see whether he won. I like, you got it, man. I ride the city like, whoa, it was a hawk from hell, ham from hell. I don't even remember what he says. I don't remember what he says. It seems like, I mean, especially now in the days of Trump, but even at the time I was felt like, well, this is a weird, cryptically phrased,

like one sentence that he has caught the penguin saying. And Batman, broadcasting it to the people who've got them immediately turns into the penguin who they had loved moments before. Oh, yeah, I think it's great. Yeah. Anyway, so. You know what Batman is in that moment, A troll. Oh, wow. Yeah.

Because his hair is he lives under bridges. Hair is all spiky and he's going on a world tour. And if he spends too much time out in the sun, he'll turn to rock entirely. But that's great because then Bill Bo can sneak away. There's a lot of different trolls that were thrown into this mix right now. So Franca and the drug dealer show up, or as I now like to call them, the real ghost busters, and they have a plan at this burnt house.

We don't know what it is yet. Turns out the plan is just coming in and pulling gun on the cage. But then Billy has a gun too, and she pulls it on Franca and says, nobody's shooting that sad bastard but me. And this is the big reveal of something that I'm sure we all kind of suspected was true since this ghost seems like a real a cavalcade of red flags. This goes away. This goes behaves. But it turns out that the reason she was worried about Nicholas Cage leaving for work all the time

was that she knew that she couldn't trust herself alone and she deliberately killed her daughter to hurt him and like I think she meant to kill herself too but not burn the place down. She meant to kill herself but not ruin the equity they built up in the house so the place burned down on accident after this murder suicide and uh... cages totally broken at this point here's the voice of his dead daughter wanders off which provides enough distraction that uh... like i think fronka tries to go for the gun and billy shoots her but now uh... big mistake huge you've activated her those work on commissions now that franca is uh... between slife and death

she's uh... between worlds if you will she will pull the wife out of billy i won't and trapper another world uh... much like obi one can only now that she's struck down should be more powerful and they could ever imagine uh... or marry so it turns out she has the ability to take people out of bodies as well as ushering people into them

yeah yeah oh yeah i didn't even think about it she didn't even have to throw her through the ghost door in the lock and key comics nope just says hey get out of here and then suddenly she's gone ghost or way of the samurai. Yeah, ghost door entry way of the samurai.

Nicholas Cage's brain is broken at this point. He's clushing out of the jack in the box yelling, Sarah. Billy wakes up, cries about her mom who is too far gone to say it seems the leader of the pack by the shangri lousy that who did leader of the pack i believe so yes i don't know if it's their version of it or if it's a cover watch i it starts playing

and cage pours gas all over himself lights a cigarette setting himself a flame and stubs the cigarette out on his own burning body this is a great this seems like a point where I think they put on the flame effects a little too soon. I think he was supposed to light himself by putting the cigarette out on his body but instead he's already engulfed in flame when he does that. So it's I think they added the flame. I think it's a great joke where he's like well I'm in. Literally engulfed in flames

but I got to put this cigarette I want to burn the house down He has zero reaction to being engulfed in flames. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, it does not hurt him at all He does it it seems to be if anything at least that makes him feel better Yeah, I think maybe maybe this is a guy this is a guy who learns from his mistakes And he's like, okay, what can I pick up from this experience? one Do not

Trust my wife because she does not have my best interest heart. Let's keep that clear Number two if I'm ever in the situation again do not accept that hand job under the blanket and number three I can't let lit cigarettes just lie around because that caused the problem the first place So I better put it out right now. Ironically, he's on fire. So I guess the cigarette just burns up faster. But it's a, uh, the, the, the fire effects, it's just very funny to see how nonchalant he is with all this fire all over. Um, so obviously what should have happened is he should have then jumped

into the body of the happy, lucky drug dealer that he had killed. And then he would get to go on an adventure later, right? Oh sure yeah. No nobody likes my idea. I mean I was just I just thought I'd throw it out there. I mean I'm not a professional writer so I thought maybe you guys could give me some notes. I mean what's this adventure? What adventure is the is he going on in this new body? I mean I haven't really thought that far ahead. Because there's four different types of primordial story. Let's go through them. Man versus man, man versus nature, goes bananas or goes to Monte Carlo.

Okay. So it's not me one of those four. Okay. I mean, man versus man, I think we've already covered and goes bananas I think already happened too. But he hasn't been to Monte Carlo yet. He hasn't been to Monte Carlo yet. He hasn't been to Monte Carlo, but could he also be fighting nature in Monte Carlo? I have to assume they have some nature there. Yeah. Maybe even if it's just a plant in the lobby of a casino. So Dan, Billy and Mike, they drive away and then what happens?

Then we got a short hand over some burnt dolls child dolls and a family photo with more of that twin peak sea music and there's a fate of black and then we hear it's either Joe's dad or maybe like it's supposed to be his mom's boyfriend i don't know the it's not i believe it's supposed to be his dad because they mentioned earlier that his dad used to hit okay Well, we hear is dad yelling at His mom about Joe and how shitty Joe is of threatening to burn the whole house down and Joe comes out and shoots his dad with a shotgun and And now here's something something I want to point out here is that this is clearly a flashback

It's Joe's youth and yet they are in an exceedingly modern kitchen and A lot of problems for me honestly because I didn't know when it was supposed to be happening. I assumed it was a flashback But I'm like it doesn't really look I mean like he's got a walkman head phone So I guess it's a long time ago, but at the same time the house doesn't look old at all No, at having just uh... my wife and i finally watched the last episode this season of the marvelous mason maize all after a long break between episodes and there are so many scenes where they have period cars and costumes and things for no reason

i found it very refreshing that the makers of this film did not bother to make it a period specific kitchen and we're just like wears the kitchen of the house that we are already staying in let's just shoot this there come on yeah I got a question for you three and that is this uh... is this scene in the movies so we're like oh that's why Joe hates when family members burned down houses potentially killing

other family members did the movie think that we needed a motivation for his youth from to be upset about his wife Bernie Thomas House? I think probably it was to show that Joe's life has been a non-stop cycle of violent trauma but maybe they're setting it up for the prequel between worlds to the rise of Joe. I think that when this scene was all finished up they they sent it over to the movie maker. They're like, and they got epilogue and prologue confused. I think it goes at the end. That's what happened. I do get the sense that it was supposed to be in a different

part of the movie and they ended up cutting it and then they were like, well this is too good to waste. Let's throw it in at the end instead of a blooper. The thing is, it doesn't really illuminate anything about anything, but it has this place of importance, so you're like, okay, this must mean something. But it's so opaque what it means. We're watching it and Audrey was like, does this mean that like his dad spirit has been following him or at like it and like i never thought of that like it was nothing but what if his dad had been pulled into billy i don't know oh boy

well i think because they also they filmed the young franca patente scene where she's the little girl underneath the ice of the lake and that also didn't offer anything except kind of a moody opening credit sequence it was it was a striking visual sure yeah yeah I did an answer plot and sir I feel like that they probably just filmed scenes of both of the leads as kids and then figured out where to put them later yeah I think that's probably true unless maybe Nicholas cage saw the first cut of the leads as kids and then figured out where to put them later. Yeah, I think that's probably true. Unless maybe Nicholas Cage saw the first cut of the movie and was like, wait, so Franco gets a kid flashback and I don't get a kid flashback?

Can I get a kid flashback? I'm going to pull my support of the movie. I was supposed to go on all the talk shows to promote this movie and but I don't have a kid flashback and Franco gets a kid flashback. Like that's not fair. I'm a bigger star. I should get the bigger kid flashback. Why don't I get a kid flashback? Because I want a kid flashback. And they're like, Nick, you saw the script. Yeah, but there were no kid flashbacks in the script. But we didn't think we should write out the title sequence in the script. Yeah, but that's a kid flashback. Like that's an official kid flashback. Ask anybody. Ask a professional. Ask a someone off the script. Yeah, but that's a kid flashback. Like that's an official kid flashback. Ask anybody. Ask a professional. Ask a someone off the street. They'll tell you it's a kid flashback.

I want a kid flashback. Why don't I get a kid flashback? Nicholas Cage kid flashback. Where's my kid flashback? Because I haven't gotten a kid flashback and Franca got a kid flashback. That's not fair. Kid flashbacks. everyone should get get flashbacks or no one gets get flashbacks. So you either give me a get flashback or you take out fronka's get flashback. I assume that's exactly what

happens. I've never gone so far from like finding something actively unfunny and irritating to not be able to stuff like that. I'm just trying to. Oh, okay. The greatest trick the What happened? This is greatest triumph. The greatest trick the Devil of Rebold.

Final judgments is this section of a podcast where we talk about whether we thought it was a good bad movie, a bad bad movie, or a movie we kind of liked. Does anyone rarer to go with a hot take on between worlds or whatever it's called? I do not have a hot take between worlds or whatever it's called? I do not have a hot take. I think this movie is for sure good bad. It's very silly. I rewound several parts to watch them again. There were several moments where my husband and I just

turned the exact same moment and made eye contact with each other, which is always I think a good sign that something is very ridiculous. It's so much fun to watch. I would re-watch this movie. I agree. I'm going to also say that it was a good bad movie. There's a lot of potential red flags for viewership and the movie avoids them and ends up being if they're if there can be a silly laugh out loud movie about About a ghost that wants to seal someone's life and also a murder suicide then this is that movie

It's it's I think there's and also if you have any if you're if you've got a teenager and it's hard to talk to them about the act of physical love-making If you've got a teenager and it's hard to talk to them about the act of physical love-making Just show them this movie and they'll finally understand what it's all about. I, yeah, here's the I, to that point, to that end, Elliot, like this is a difficult movie to like unreservedly like recommend that anyone see because it does have a lot of things that could potentially upset people depending on You know what? could potentially upset people depending on, you know, what upsets you personally. I mean, like, there is, yeah, suicide. There is child death. There is murder. Child murder and suicide. There there is like, this quasi-almost incestuous relationship, even though like he's not with

Fronker Patentie, it has that structure. And even though the actress who is playing Bailey is 28, she is, I believe, kind of playing younger and Nicholas Cage is the age he is. So that is, like, unpleasant too. You mean age, ageless and ageable? Exactly. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh.

Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. But if you can't accept all of those things in the space of an overheated melodrama, which is what this is, I'm between good, bad, and kind of liked, and the reason I even skew almost towards that is it feels like it gives you the feel for me of when I was a kid and I'd stay up late watching these like late 80s early 90s thrillers and like not even necessarily

Being into them because they were even too sleazy, but like wondering like what is this world? Like why did someone make something so like sweaty and sleazy? And you know fascinating what's what's Zalman King thinking? Yes, and having like one of those movies get into like the fly transporter and get mixed with wild at heart. Like, yeah, I respond to it. I think I'm probably responding to it. I mean, all the language I'm using, I'm responding to it as someone who likes

movies and it's like approaching it through almost the window of other movies. So I don't know how it will work for someone who doesn't care as much about that stuff. But if you don't like movies you might not like this movie. That's true. I feel like there's already certain. It's a good save. There's a certain filter for watching a movie on purpose because it's bad that weeds out a lot of the people who would not be into this movie probably.

That's true. Stuart, what do you have to say about it? Yeah, I'm going to go on the side of Good Bad. I feel like a lot of the, I did spend a large chunk of the movie telling my TV to stop it. But I feel like if it was in like a group setting where you're with a bunch of friends all excited to watch a bad movie, some of the creepier sex stuff might would come off as funnier as opposed to as creepy as it is with just me sitting in my apartment alone sweaty from a hot workout. What are you wearing, Stuart? You know a nice pair of slacks and sweatshirt. Slacks to workout. It's business casual workout. I'm a grown up, Gromzwerslacks. And there's points when like, I feel like there's, I feel like if this movie, if you had swapped the daughter character with like, Franca Potente's like elderly mother that she had to save, I feel like that might have been a more interesting movie.

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free and secure hosting. Hey, go to squarespace.com slash flop for free trial. And when you're ready to launch, use the offer code flop to save a 10% off your first purchase for website or domain. I bungled a lot of that, but the important thing is to remember offer, offer code flop. Now Dan, leaving the bungling aside, I had an idea and I was wondering if

Squarespace might be able to help me make it into a real website and a real business. Almost certainly, Elliot, but indulges. Well, because I don't know if they're going to want to touch this one, but I'd really appreciate if they did. Okay, it's all happened to us. We've all been in this situation. You're dead, you're a ghost, you find yourself in some young lady's body, and you just want to find love with the greasy trucker that you used to be in love with when you were alive, but now it's a little awkward. What do you do?

Well, that's where adultghostfinder.com comes in. Adultghostfinder is the place where a ghost, looking for love, can match up with people who are looking for love with ghosts. It's all right there in our slogan where a ghost looking for love, find people, looking for love with ghosts. Adultghostfinder.com. Here's the thing. You don't have to be a ghost to love a ghost, and you don't have to be a person to

love a person. You could be a ghost or a person, or maybe you're the ghost of a person or maybe you're the person of a ghost such as in this film. It doesn't matter. We don't judge. We're just here to help ghosts find people and ghosts find ghosts and people find ghosts but not people find people. That's gross at adultghostfinder.com. You're not interested in ghosts. We're not interested in you. You know what? Get out of here, fleshling with your anti-ghost prejudices. Not interested, you can take that elsewhere. This is for ghosts and the people who are interested in ghosts and ghosts that are interested in people and ghosts that are interested in ghosts.

So that's adultghostfinder.com. Dan, you think that square space could help me? I think it's great and I think that that is the product or service that people will remember coming out of this ad break and not either of the people who are paying us. So thank you. Well, ExpressVPN and Courspace, please don't use them. Stuart, you got a gem by trying to read, right? Well, yeah, I do.

It goes like this. On the Discord and Rime podcast, a motley crew of music nerds, or perhaps a deaf leopard. That's a reference to the English band deaf leopard. Discusses an album per episode. No track left out, fighting the forces of chaos in today's era of buffet listening. Our eclectic lineup of more than 50 albums includes the Kinks, Captain Beef Heart, The Mountain Goats, Kate Bush, Janet Jackson, Ween, a 70s disco musical version of The War of the Worlds, and the Mega Man 2 soundtrack

because why not? Subscribe to Discord and Rime, wherever podcasts are found, available on Apple Podcast Stitcher or anywhere else. Discord and Rime. I am definitely gonna listen to their Mega Man 2 episode because that is my favorite video game soundtrack of all time. But I've also got a jumbo tron. And it goes like this.

Somewhere in Middle America, a red-headed boy lives in a town But I've also got a jumbo tron. And it goes, like this. Somewhere in Middle America, a red-headed boy lives in a town called Riverdale. On the Riverdale high, AV club, sibling hosts Megan and Ezra Chronicle his life, friends, family, pets, and exploits. In weekly episodes full of goofs, and a few facts, they dive into the background of all things Archie. Join them as they explore such hidden corners of the Archiverse as Cosmother Mary Martian Katie Keen CW's Riverdale and more tune into the Riverdale high AV club on all your favorite pod catchers

That's right listen to their podcasts the Riverdale high AV club about all things Archie See I was gonna say that sounds like my version of a Riverdale podcast like I'm like just talk to me about like the weird obscure comics characters I don't care about the sexy CW riverdale so give me the you know give me the sexy comic characters I wonder if they've done an episode about that series where Jughead's dog was a superhero Probably not yet. Yeah, you know, you got to save save something for season 10 uh... probably not yet you know you have to save safe something for season ten uh... hey

look at it i got good news everyone we can uh... announce our contest winners the winners of the price packs for uh... the raffle the charity raffle during the charity live stream uh... steward is getting out his note because he's the one who can be sending these things out although i can just email this information no no make sure he gets the information who's going to be sending these things out. Although I can just email this information. No, no, make sure he gets the information this way, Dan.

Don't spoon feed it, don't. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, writer Robert Bane. Congratulations. Tyler Moore. There's no marrying front of it. Just Tyler Moore. And congratulations. I didn't realize they were also winning the chance to be a razzed live on the show. And still I'm waiting by Dan Rickles over here.

This will be a familiar name for you. Casey Crowe. Oh, sure buddy. My college and oldest friend. It was chosen at random. We could possibly, you know, sure. Sure. Sure. We could possibly do another drawing if you like Stuart, so we can send out four. So it's not just your friend. Well, I'm glad that you have revealed evidence of my corruption. Oh, I was amazed. I was like, oh, I don't have the thousands of people. I recognize that name. But, um, yeah, maybe we'll draw another one as a bonus just to just to make sure everyone knows we're on the up and up. But those are like, congratulations.

I have KC one fair and square, but we'll, uh, we'll throw one. I like that instead of Dan just discarding that one and choosing another one without telling anybody. He instead put it out on the airways I mean it seems unfair to Casey in that situation, right? Like he it's not like Casey's never gonna know Casey had the tip of his finger bitten off by a dog recently Hell yeah, you don't think he deserves a prize. I mean not having known that I'm gonna have to say yes Hey Casey you're all right Congratulations Casey.

Yeah, congrats to all of our winners and thank you again to everybody who donated during our big live show. And we are still working on putting together the reading of the Boynext Door that was the prize to everybody for massively exceeding the number of donations that we expected. Thank you very much, everybody, for using your heart to show your best. Yeah, we do have, I'm not gonna, I can't reveal anything just yet. I think people will be happy. We do have a lot of the cast in place and it's you know many many beloved figures from flop house land will be involved

So but let's move on to letters, right guys? Right? Why not? We need them to make our words, and yet we've never celebrated them. Letters, thanks for everything you do. From A to Z and in between, thank you for being there to spell out our words, to be in our cereals and soups, and also just for making us laugh on rainy days. Letters, here this one's for you. Wait, hold on. So are we laughing because the letters have spelled out jokes? Are we just sort of observing letters and finding joy in that?

Dan, whatever floats your boat when you need a lift, sometimes it's just looking at a lowercase queue and being like, hey, what do you have to do, buddy? And sometimes, and sometimes it's reading some Robert Benchley and knowing that without letters, those ideas would have just died in his head, never communicated, except maybe verbally to one person right next to him. Letters, hey, you're the best.

Or a whole round table of people. Let's do letters then. These are in the form of the emails. Hold on, Dan. Let's celebrate these letters and let's be and let's treat them to a good time. But I don't know if we need to do them unless there's chemistry between you and one of the letters Dan then go for it. Oh, damn it. Florian. Florian last name withheld is the first person writing. Florian writes, hi, Dan and Elliott and Stu. The three investigators were a huge part of my childhood in Germany.

Now this was brought up on the last episode with Hodgman and David Rees. When we talked about detectives, I talked about how I liked the three investigators. It ripped from the headlines. Three and it is. This is one of the more new emails you love here, but I thought it was interesting. One of the more new, whereas other people might say newer. Yeah, okay. email is your lover here, but I thought it was interesting. One of the more new, or is other people might say newer? Yeah, okay.

Well, anyway, the point is I'm giving a little backstory. I read the three investigators as a kid, none of the others knew about this particular series of mysteries. And if you don't listen to the menus, I have seen, you know, like fewer people do, they're really good, guys. They're a lot of fun. And they have less nonsense in the sense of boring stuff,

and more nonsense in the sense of nonsense. Don't be a mini-missor. A, it's the worst thing you can be is a mini-missor. Don't miss those minis. Catch them today at the Flavas. OK, well, he says there are a huge part of his sheltered in Germany. The books were popular here, but the three boys

from Palm Beach reached iconic status in the form of radio plays. All German kids from my generation had at least a couple of Dai Drei, Frazinzigit, Frazinzigin. Perfect pronunciation. That's really good. That's great. Are you from Berlin?

Tapes. Now, how would you say that sir you speak German right I don't speak it well enough to investigators repeat what I just kind of heard you say what's the word for investigators does it sound anything like fronzes I can well you know I say three yep do you try franzas something so that's a great as as Dan said okay well anyway The had at least couple of died died today Foszen's I can tapes or LPs to listen to on repeat. I am the same age as you

In 1997 a group of fans even started a playback theater show where they would have one of the tapes running and with lip sync and Move to it in front of an audience one of the tapes running and with lip sync and move to it in front of an audience. This was a huge success and prompted the makers of the radio plays to go on extended tours of the German-speaking countries. They are still touring to this day. Too long didn't read, you didn't make up the three investigators, but they're probably considered weirder off as evidenced by the fact that they were in our loved in Germany. Love the floor, love the floor. Love the show, Florian. I'm sure Florian would love the floor too if you could see it. I've got in our loved in Germany. Love the floor, love the floor.

Love the show, Florian. I'm sure Florian would love the floor too, if you could see it. I've got a nice rug in here. It's that old, it's that old gearbox, quote, thanks to the floor for holding me up. All right. Thanks for always supporting me.

That's another way I've seen it. Mm-hmm. Stuart, I'm sorry that I put you on the spot as my trainer. No, it's okay. I was just trying to Google what Investigator is in Sherman, and it's not what you said so I'm sure it might be just I mean Well, it's probably an anybatic transportation. That's not yeah, that's fair I'm a surprise I've there's probably a very specific German word for like three brothers who are doing this and are loosely related to Hitchcock.

Yeah, Brutofraga, Hitchcock and you know that kind of thing. It's like I've surprised I never heard of the idea of people lip syncing on stage to radio shows or like drama LPs and that's a great idea. That's a really good idea. Let's bring it over here. Let's lip synx our own podcast on the road. Okay, interesting. That seems easier than us just coming up with this highly original bullshare.

Ironically, that requires so much more preparation than what we currently do. But you could switch roles. Which would be very interesting. Yeah, I mean, they are doing transcripts. We could do readings where we all switch parts. It's our own version of True West. Okay, this one says this, Mr. McCoy, feel free to relax on this letter because you've already done your part.

Elliott Stewart, you've got some explaining to do. What are your erotica author aliases? The great Dane has already amassed himself in front of the world press and subsequently been taken into police custody. You can all split this prison sentence three ways so it won't be so hard on any one of you. All you have to do is to state your full name

and erotic alias into this microphone, then come out with your hands up, it's over. Big fan, detective Jack lasting with health. Now, I mean, this seems like the opposite of the prisoners dilemma, you know that I will just do the time if you keep your mouth shut. And so there's no, you know, you don't have to make any calculations. Like the self-interested thing would be to just not say anything. So the premise of this bit is that we are moonlighting as erotic authors. And we have to reveal what our nom diplum is. clarifying and returning to first principles.

Sure. Thank you. Thank you. I just want to make sure I'm up to speed. You. Thank you. Thank you. I just want to make sure I'm up to speed. You know, I like playing games. I mean, also, we could just ignore it and pretend it never happened.

We are the judge, you know? Do you have a non-duplumed, do you have an erotic author? Yeah, J.R.R. Throbin. Sure. Okay. Oh, wow. You were quick with that one.

Well, I spent the time Dan was reading the letter thinking of it. I feel like I want to pick a name that no one else in the world would pick. So I think maybe like Jackson Galaxy. Okay. And Aaron, let's say you were involved in this highly questionable shenanigan. Certainly. I have been thinking the entire time of what my erotic a nom de plume would be. I think I would probably be a smolder divine. Oh, yeah, I like it.

That's significantly. Yeah, I like it. I mean, none that's significantly better than us. Non-debloom is a pretty good erotic a non-debloom Guys that's it for letters put it behind you. It's gone. Okay. Now you never had In the room and then don't look back pick them up and throw them in LA. It's old track. You look back at turn In the salt just keep moving forward Now we got to talk about good movies you should watch or i mean don't have to go to the thing i'm thinking about recommending is not but it is fun so uh... let's go with that let's say movies you would recommend let's just

call a movie's would recommend yeah no make don't make complex and it's all you've already oversold your squirt a bit by calling it not good uh... well stand it's not you've already oversold yours quite a bit by calling it not good uh... well i guess i'm already in it i'm gonna say uh... i'm gonna see the only thing worse than my german is my uh... my brazilian or i guess portuguese right is that well portuguese is the language for brazilian i think is the wax that you're

talking about you did not do a good job that's true uh... i made me sad uh... don't go to budget Brazilian next time and that was your mistake something's a worth painful price for okay so i my part is is not good but uh... the uh... movie i'm recommending is Super Shusha Contra O'Bio Astral. Perfect.

It translates basically to Shusha against the down mood. And this is the Brazilian children's host Shushusha, who had Ojusha. I'm again, my accent is not good, but she was a huge in Brazil. This movie that she made was the number three most profitable Brazilian film in Brazil. The most profitable Brazilian film in Brazil and the third most popular movie in Brazil that year overall, like above things like Robocop. So it was a huge hit there and the best way to describe it is if if Labyrinth was done with like puppets you found in say like a lost and found box and instead of a baby being stolen it was a dog puppet and instead of it being

kind of about like the coming of age of a young girl it's about this Brazilian lady in hot pants like singing songs about how we need to treat the earth better and not be sad and and the and it's less coherent than that makes it sound, if that's possible. She's basically fighting the Satan, and it has this, as I alluded to before, the biggest crime in this world seems to be that you can't feel sad. Like, don't have a down mood, which is like a completely misguided thing for people's emotional developments. Certainly, if this is for children, and very weird right now in the world as it is. But if you enjoy things that are just sort of colorful and weird and go off in directions,

you cannot comprehend and fathom and just let it wash over you, like it is a good, bizarre time. It's hard to find. You probably might have to do it in a legal fashion, but it's fun. Which is an adventure in itself. Sounds like something to use your Express VPN for. I've wrapped your tracks. Do you guys have a recommendation? I do. Aaron, would you like to go next?

Sure. So this, so between worlds, felt to me like a horror comedy. That was how I experienced it. And so another scary comedy that's more funny than scary is what we do in the shadows, which is a movie that I really, really enjoyed. And now I started watching the series on FX that I'm also really enjoying. So I would recommend that for people who want to laugh at something that should be scary and isn't. Also, Ristar B is in what we do in the shadows,

and he's also on the big fibs, streaming on Disney Plus, headwritten by me. Oh, snuck a little clogging there. He's so great. He's so great. Also, if you love Nicholas Cage's huge performance in this, then get in the way back machine or rewatch Vampire's Kiss because that is a huge Nick Cage performance that just

reinforces the fact that this isn't new. He's always been this way. He's always been so big. He's always made such huge choices and committed 100%. So those are my two recommendations. Always swinging for the fences that you really does. I'm going to recommend a movie unless you would like to go next to it.

Oh, let me think. No, I like you to go. But certainly, you should make it out either way. This movie ties into between worlds because it is also about a man who has very serious and at times traumatic memories tied up in a house that is not being well taken care of. And that's the last black man in San Francisco

directed by Joe Talbot and written by him and Jimmy Fales and starring Jimmy Fales. And it's about a man in San Francisco who when he was a kid, his family lived in one of these like big fancy painted lady houses in San Francisco. And for years he's been stopping by and taking care of it against the wishes of the current owners who think it's very strange. And when he gets the opportunity to kind of take semi-lawful possession of the house, he goes for it. But there's a lot more going on in the movie than that, and it's a lot about San Francisco as a changing city, and Black Lives and White Lives, and friendship,

and all sorts of things. I found it to be a really beautiful movie, and very lyrical, and enjoyed a lot. My wife, who's from the Bay Area, and spent a lot of time in San Francisco, said it showed her a side of San Francisco she was not really familiar with, so she really enjoyed it too. So, the last Black man in San Francisco I'd recommend currently streaming on Amazon Prime so if you have his Amazon Prime just go watch it for free you already paid

for it. Yeah it's gorgeous. Yeah it's a beautiful movie. And I'm going to recommend a Japanese zombie movie called One Cut of the Dead. I don't think I've recommended this before, but it is a movie about a movie and it's about a bunch of filmmakers making a zombie movie, or are they trapped in a zombie movie? It's a lot of fun. It plays with, like, plays with ideas of low-budget filmmaking and like found footage stuff. It's a lot of it's just great. It's fun. It's a hard movie not to like. I've been wanting to watch that one.

One cut of the day. I've had a lot of really good things about it. And speaking of Stewart recommendations, it just occurs to me we should mention this. You were on movie crush recently. Yeah. Check Brian's podcast about people in their favorite movies talking about. And I got to talk about the greatest movie of all time. Rikio, the story of Rikio, the greatest movie ever made. And I was on a recently too talking about aliens and all it will be on it soon I believe. Yes, talking about my favorite, the taking a Pellum 1-2-3. And I just occurred to me like we don't often plug

these other appearances other than on social media. You know, would it kill us to tell people once in a while? No, it doesn't kill anyone. And speaking of plugs, I'd like to throw out a plug now that New York is slowly and carefully re-opening, at least carefully in our case I just wanted to mention that my wife and I have a new bar in Sunset Park that has a very expansive backyard and also is currently doing to go service

It's called minis bar And it's lovely and if you get a chance and you're in Sunset Park Brooklyn come by for a to go To go cocktail they just got a frozen drink machine Which I'm very excited about because I don't have to clean other people clean it's not like we just let it get gross that'd be crazy so if you get a chance check out minis barons on set now Aaron are you offering to go cocktails if you can find me okay and if you can afford me then then I will make you a TIGO cocktail. Okay, well, if in lieu of that are there other things you would like to plug?

Thank you so much for asking, Daniel, yes. As I mentioned before, I was head writer for the Big Fib on Disney Plus, which is a game show for kids. It is, basically we have a 10 year old contestant there about who interviews to adults who both claim to be an expert in a given field. And then that child at the end of it has to guess who is the expert and who has been lying to them the entire time. So it's teaching critical thinking, it's fun, it's very silly, ReStarB plays a robot. So for younger kids, I think it's really fun. For older kids, i.e. adults, I also was head writer for the Great Fantasy Debate on Facebook where teams of fantasy authors and comedians square off to debate issues within the fantasy world.

Like which fantasy world would be the best place to go on vacation or which fantasy character would be the worst roommate, things like that. That's really fun. We had Jim Butcheron, we had Naomi Novik on, Tochi Anya Butchi, Marie Lu, Pierce Brown, and then a bunch of really talented comedians. That's really fun. And it's 10 minute episodes on Facebook. So it's like, you're already on Facebook for 10 minutes. Watch my show. It's easier to watch. It's easier to watch. It's harder to avoid it. And Elliott, you have children and you like fantasy. So it seems like there's something here for everyone

There's a thing for everyone. Yeah, and for people who like podcasts my scripted podcast Ellie in the wave is available wherever you get your podcasts That's a funny Scripted with Natalie marales not the today show host, but the very talented comedic actor Natalie marales is I are lead on it. So where do we go to get the today show host, but the very talented comedic actor, Natalie Morales, is our lead on it. So where do we go to get the today show host, Natalie Morales? I wish I had her number for you, but I think you just go to the today show. Yeah, you go to the today show. I mean, I guess I just stand outside the window. With the sign that says Natalie, I guess I can just stand outside the middle. Yeah, with a sign. Yeah.

With a sign that says, Natalie, I have something very important to tell you. Come outside. And then I'll always work. That'll work. That'll work. Yeah, I mean, I usually would just walk around until I get some kind of an indicator on one of the NPCs I'm passing that I can start a conversation. And then I scroll down my conversation options and see if one of them would mind lead me

to finding this today's show. But now we know it's Stuart's terminator readout looks like. OK, well, we've dithered enough. Let's thank Jordan Cowling for producing the show and editing and thank Maximum Fun for being our network. You can see or listen to rather other great shows at MaximumFun.org and we always appreciate you listening. Thank you for being with us. You especially. You right now hearing this, you're our favorite and we're so glad that you're listening. And if

there's more than one person in the room, both of you are our favorites. And if there's more than two, I'm sorry, only two of you are our favorites. Here is more than two, a broken pool queue will appear in front of you. And you have to fight for it. OK, well, that didn't go well for an ending. Hey, thanks, Aaron, for being here.

Thanks for having me, you guys. Yeah, thank you. I'm on a real cute death for the flop house. I've been Dan McCoy. Yeah, so I guess I'm still willing. I'm Elliott Kaelin, not sure exactly what Dan was getting at, but you know, that's, that's okay. I don't always know. Byeee! I feel like talking about the movie was more fun. I had more fun talking about it than I kind of did watching it, because as I said, I was watching it by myself and I'm like, no, no, don't do this. I was watching it by myself, and I'm like, no, no, no, do this. I think watching with a group would be a little better, yeah, with the right group, like

not with your parents.