The Flop House - Ep. #326 - Uninvited, with Gillian Flynn

Episode Date: October 24, 2020

Our guest this week is Gillian Flynn, bestselling author of Gone Girl, Sharp Objects, and Dark Places, showrunner for Amazon's Utopia, screenwriter of Widows and adaptations of her own work, winner of the Edgar Award, and BAFTA nominee. We have no idea why she agreed to do this either.But we're happy she did, because for our second and final SHOCKTOBER 2020 movie, our horror-aficionado guest picked Uninvited, and it was amazing! (to be clear, this is not THE Uninvited from 2009, which The Flop House already covered, or, for that matter, The Uninvited from 1944, about ghosts and Ray Milland. This is the 1987 direct-to-video one about the mutant killer house cat).Also! If you're listening on the day of release TONIGHT'S THE NIGHT (6PDT/9EDT) for our YouTube livestream version of our touring show! We'll be doing presentations, talking Exorcist II, taking questions from Twitter, and raising money for charity! For full info, go here.Movies recommended in this episode:Hocus PocusPsycho GoremanDantonCloak & Dagger

On this episode of The Flop House, we discuss... Uninvited... Another... Shocktober... Platter of Splatter for all you sicko-frigs! Hey everyone, welcome to the flop house, I'm Dan McCoy. Hey, I'm Stuart Wellington. Ah, Meliott Kaelin really revved up that time, didn't expect it. Yeah, and with us today, we have a very exciting guest.

You know her from writing the books, sharp objects, dark places, gone girl, and also adapting, I would say, the good versions of those. You know, we're from Utopia, her new show on Amazon. It's Gillian Flynn is here. Hello. Thank you for having me. Hey, Gillian. Thanks so much. What?

Huh? I was just saying, hey, Gillian, you know, I've been sitting here. Hey, Elliot. And? Huh? I was just saying, hey Gileon, you know, I've been sitting here. I've been sitting here. Hey, Elliott, and I was like, I know, let's do it. You know, I'm here. He said, hey Gileon, not here.

So I apologize. I just want to take, I think Dan deserves a little victory lap because that was a pretty good introduction there, buddy. Thank you. Well, certainly the best one we've done. Yeah. Elliott berated me for, he's like, you know, do it professional this time.

And I don't want to you know point fingers at Elliott but sometimes I have a professional Introduction and Elliott is the third person who gets introduced before the guest and he goes up in a long flight of fancy That confuses and dismayes me you don't have to join the flight of fancy You can just let the plane take off and wait for it to land and then you can introduce the guest. I just, Dan, I always remind you just because of our notorious Joe Bob Briggs episode, where you left the guest

flailing, not knowing whether he should start talking or if he was even there. That was the episode where we discussed the Durandran song, notorious, right? Yeah, exactly. There's our notorious episode. Yeah, I would just like to remind our guests that she should feel free to interrupt any of us at any time because we tend to talk too much. I would also like to say that you may also know me if you lived in Kansas City, Missouri in 1987 for dressing as a tuxedoed frozen yogurt

and handing out yogurt samples. So that's just another bit of my work that I'd like to get it in there. In 1987 also happens to be the year of the movie we're discussing. Let us say it right. Already for professional than us. You're welcome, you're welcome. Now, not to get us off on a tangent, but what kind of yogurt place puts

their yogurt and tuxedos? Fancy one, very fancy, super fancy, black tie yogurt place. T.C. M.F. Y, the country's most formal yogurt. It was the really long, yeah, it was went a really long name. The country's best frozen yogurt, or, yeah long it was one of the really long name the countries best frozen yogurt or yet to see b.i.y. I think and you wrote a thing for the new yorker about this i believe and uh... i would like to ask about frozen yogurt

well about wearing the costume that i think was mostly one of the uh... what was your worst job or like your crazy job or now how does one get the new yorker to actually publish what you send to them do you have to be a best selling writer because i haven't done that part yet but if you have a previously crazy job i think i was just part of the previously crazy job series. It was between that and my work consistent work for Heiskone College as a ham display girl at HoneyBigTam in which case I would take you know because customers get crazy about the spiral on the ham and

so they want you to unwrap it so they can make sure the spiral looks spiraled and then re-wrap it, they don't like that one, can I see a different spiral? So I always went through the holiday seasons with my fingers just absolutely, just duck wrapped, duck-type wrapped in bandages. There's a chapter in Uzamaki about spirals on ham. Right. Thanks. I would love it. If it is a monkey, they wander into a grocery store. And they're just horrified by the spiral. Everywhere, spirals everywhere, even our beloved ham.

Wow. They open up an issue of an issue of X-Force, where I Mojo is in it like spiral. Why is spiral in this? Oh no, that's different than the listeners. Tastes better spiral. That's our motto around here. Was that I guess the spiral cutting unlocks the the flavor juices that would otherwise be kept inside if they were cut in a less snail shelly way. I don't know, hand science, but I guess so.

It also involves the great children's game where you can kind of bounce it down the stairs like a slinky. There was a commercial for those hands where the guy put a ball bearing on the spiral and it rolled all the way around the hand a couple times. I think you're thinking of luxury cars too.

Oh, okay. Now, Gailin, let's segue into the movie. You chose this one. It's called Uninvited. It's from 1987. I believe it was straight to VHS. That's what I found in my research. I didn't see anything about a theatrical release.

That could be wrong. I think it was a straight to video movie. This was written and directed by Great On Clark, who, Mystery Science Theater viewers will know from a number of different movies. And Dan will know from the classic boobs and video games hit joysticks. Number one of the box office, the week it came out.

I was gonna say, I looked it up. Yeah, he directed joysticks, one of my favorite office the week it came out. I was gonna say I looked it up. Yeah, he directed joysticks. One of my favorite team sex comedies that was one of these movies that is about video games in such a way that it's clear that they thought video games were going to be a fad that they needed to jump on to. Well that's a good idea. Likewise, he also directed the forbidden dance about the Lombata. That's the one of two movies about the Lombata.

This is the one with Laura Herring from Moholind Drive in it. As she's a, I believe, Amazon Princess, who has come to America to stop the deforestation of the Amazon and gets involved in a Lombata contest. Yeah, through dance. Yeah. Dan, did I ever tell you about the screening of Joysticks I Went To where they,

the hosts called, Graydon Clarkclark and they over the phone Interviewed him and he was basically said like yeah, I went to the mall and I saw these kids lining up to play video games And I was like if we could get them to go see a movie we'd be millionaires So we made this movie and they picked a weekend when nothing else was coming out So they were number one at the box office nationwide I mean you can't argue with that. Cl that. Just good business sense. It is a fun job movie. Uninvited, they did because it was direct to video. They did not have that. Although the titles right off the bat tell you this is an amazing movie's production,

which is promising a lot. Now, Gailin, you're an aficionado of both bad movies and horror movies. I've learned in our very brief conversations. I make it out like we've known each other for years. Why did you choose this one? I chose this one. I love 80s horror movies in particular. They're just they're kind of what I grew up on. They remind me of you know sneaking at home with my friends who had the luxury of cable, which we did not, and just watching like all those, just all those crazy movies. And Kansas City we grew up with Friday, Friday night. That was our particular brand of the local, scare movie night with a host suit, the cat named Caffina. I was loved. And so I just like you know it has all the great kind of 80s movie

staples. Like it has like I love, don't you like I love the like opening music for it? Like it's just sort of sets you. It's like okay you're doing a little John Carpenter hair but also Columbo. hair, but also Columbo. And you know it has a lot of 80s dancing and music on yachts and the classic 80s characters that you can you know like oh it's the nerd. It's the rich douche. It's the girl who will get killed and the girl won't and all of which we should discuss. Get very confused later on about who is playing what? Like the guy dressed like the nerd is not the nerd I would like I really want to I think it's important we get into that And it also has my other favorite which is people falling into water

Orbing tossed Tossed fall dive never Since you miss mentioned the music I just want to say I looked up the composer and the composer for this did 210 episodes of America's Funny Soam videos. Are you sure? Are you sure it's not just the erote the theme song? Who knows.

I don't know that they had separate scorers. Scorers, different scorers, different. They had like a little underscoring though, while like the Boeing sound effects of stuff. Oh, so here's the thing, wrote, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, well, what a what a sycophian wish You won't get hit in the nuts in a video in America's The thing is if the videos for that funny they would not have needed Bob's tag it to then voice the characters in the videos right I put that to you. I'm throwing down the gauntlet America's funniest own videos well

Unfortunately for our guests. I'm in the driver's seat for the synopsis this time and so bear with that along with the 20 minutes of Skype problems we had before this episode. But let's just start off with the tale of uninvited which we come in there's some doctors who are giving a cat experimental treatments of some kind. Now, one of these doctors is the director, great on Clark, named here, Doug Fatt. And this is a very good, I just gotta get this out of the way up, Brent.

This is a very good cat actor, right? He's great and he's fluffy. He's very fluffy. I wouldn't say, I mean, cat actors are notorious to the difficult. And I would say you have to add a plural to that because they clearly went through at least six hundred cats during the filming of uninvited they look something look entirely different

and addition to the cat puppets that will get into the cat seems to uh... by going into the ocean at the end of the movie spoiler the cat changes color miraculously uh... well they'll definitely get to that. Yeah. But yeah, doctors are experimenting on this cat. It escapes out the door, everyone panics, and they try and hit it with a tranquilizer dart to no avail.

And a tiny, or uglier cat comes out of the cat's mouth and kills the security guards in the stairwell and buckets of blood just splatter on the wall in a way that I have no idea what injury this cat is doing to just spray blood everywhere. Also, I don't know what this experiment is in creating a smaller cat that comes out of the cat. Clearly, they were doing experiments to see

if you could solve Alzheimer's by putting a tiny person inside of a regular person's mouth. And when you forgot something, the tiny person would go, Hey, that's your daughter or something like that. And it was just like remind you, they start out with cats and it didn't work out clearly. I thought I thought it was possibly like an earlier form of the turduck it like they were

sort of like someday this could be huge. The scientific breakthrough was realizing they should stuff the animals after they were already dead. They haven't been trying to breed them inside each other's throats. People love cats. Wouldn't they love two cats inside of one cat? Now let's do three cats. They're like we've got to get pocket cats on the market by Christmas. This is the thing all the kids are going to want.

Now, I'm glad that we're getting it out of the way right up front. We're talking about the fact there's a smaller cat inside the original cat. But that, the smaller cat, which is the one doing all the trouble, kind of looks like if you asked a child, like it was designed by a child who's like, I'm going make the musseliest cat. Like it looks like a beefy little wrestling buddy of a cat. It's really awesome. And it seems to be smiling.

Like I like it. So it's like, I'm here, like kind of a J.A.P.A.M.s. I'm almost like the little demon cat that pops out of his mouth thinks that people are gonna love this. Like that is just having a great time. Time, duh. Yeah, he seems the merchandising opportunity is already.

In a way, it's kind of like a harvests in a Michigan J-frog, like when the wrong, when most people are like, oh, it's just a cat. But when you look at it, a demon pops out and it's like, hello. I also, I mean, I'm not totally sure of the nature of this mutant cat, because early in the movie, it kind mean, like, I'm not totally sure of the nature of this mutant cat because early in the movie, it kind of seems like a smaller cat just pops out of the mouth like, you know,

the second mouth in an alien. But then later on, it seems like the mutant monster can move independently of the cat. Like it can come fully out of the cat, which makes me wonder, what happens, is the cat normal then? What's that mutant leaves it? Or is it just like a skin suit that that is? Is it just like, is wearing the mythology of the cat mutant puppet situation? Is it's mini and varied, I think.

Because sometimes it comes out and it becomes larger, it seems like it turns kind of puma-sized. Sometimes it looks like a seal. Sometimes they give it a little hair gel. Sometimes it looks scraggly and you can see it fill the dust mites coming out of someone's old childhood beloved stuffed animal. There's a lot happening with that. Well, yeah, that's the hilarious thing is like,

not only is obviously the mutant cat a puppet, but the supposedly real cat also has to be a puppet, because I don't know if you guys know that you can't have like a puppet cat come out of a real cat. They did the old classic thing of a larger than normal cat head puppet, but the then small cat comes out of. And that large cat puppet,

I think they just run out of caring how it's lit. So by the end of the movie, it just looks like a goofy, it looks like the baby from dinosaurs. Like it just looks like a cartoon character. You got it at a carnival or something. Yeah, it's got a bit, it has that big grin. It's like, you know, a gesture cat or someone, a cat that is playing a fiddle or something. You know,inker. Yeah, so Dan we also get during the sequence they're chasing through a parking

grudge and we get a little bit of cat ovation with the camera on the ground and it gets to run around like you or the cat. Which is like jaws. Yeah, you feel so powerful when you're the cat for a moment, right? Yeah. And you know, when they, the ultimate fantasy, it made me think wish that there was a, a Friday the 13th parody where Jason is a cat. And instead of the music going, ch-ch-ch, it goes, meow, meow, meow.

Like that. Mm-hmm. Similarly, guys, similarly. Oh, it's the Halloween movies instead of Michael Myers. It's a cat and the music goes, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow. Okay, let me think of some other horror movies It's the Halloween movies instead of Michael Myers. It's a cat and the music goes Okay, let me think of some other horror movies with specific musical stings. I can turn into cat sounds It's psycho instead Norman Bates. It's Norman cats. He runs the the Bates cat tell it's a cat hotel

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steps in and says oh there with me He gives such a strong first impression that his character reveal over time is shocking for me. At first he seemed like, you know, like he seemed like the most interesting man in the world, and then he quickly devolves into like a simple weirdo. I feel like he was trying to jam every villain that he'd ever seen in a movie. Like he was like, this is my one shock. The first he's kind of like, I'm a Forbesian, business dick, like then he's, that he's sort of, you know, maybe, but maybe I'm in the mafia, then he's like, but I could be a chilling sociopath with clever one-liners. And then by then he's just devolved into someone who has a lot of after dinner bananas.

A lot of the brothers in the cocktails. It was seeing him eat a banana at a party was something that I was not expecting when this character was first introduced as a captain of industry. It felt like it was a lot of things where actors were like this is a brave choice. I'm doing something here. I'm doing you know bear with me. It's a thing. It's like, great.

And I've got to do something with my hands in this scene. Just hand me that banana, really? Because you're supposed to be like a billionaire. Just give me that banana. Billionaires have bananas, right? You can have a martini, sir. Wouldn't that be banana? What's the banana and the martini?

No. No, Dan, these are just just to use the audience. We should make these two sisters, Bonnie and. This is what these two sisters Bonnie and Suzanne. And Bonnie is the party girl and Suzanne is the emotionally unstable prone to hysterics as the movie goes on girl. Well, yeah, only as the movie goes on, early on my notes are a little fuzzy on them and the guys who are about to show up

because the two lead women and the two lead guys. I mean, not ultimately the leads, but like the ones that we are introduced to first, seem sort of interchangeable at first, and then over the course of time, they come into focus. I would say yes about the girls, not about the boys. When we get to them, I'll tell you my theory about them. Okay, well anyway, so George, you need to- With the girls, don't you start out going out going like okay which one of you is the good girl who gets to live which is the bad girl that's gonna die exactly. And you're kind of like

I don't know you're both only wearing bikinis wherever you go. Yes their fashion choices were so bold that I wasn't really thinking too much I was like man could I pull that off? Maybe. And I can I go they both seem like perfectly nice. They're like very like party spring breaker types, but they're not like, I mean other than other than like just leaping onto the chance to go to like a yacht, which is fine. Oh, hello, dude. Yeah, come on.

I mean, they're very comfortable leading on a moustache owed millionaire Which is always a bad idea, but I They are I wish I had the confidence they have to sit in the fancy restaurant of hotel We're showing off their hip bones like I don't think I could do that they're having dinner and Walters two subordinates show up there kind of kind of like his muscle, it seems like they're menacing. One of them is...

Menacing older gentlemen. Yeah, but they're tough. One of them is George Kennedy, who is an interesting fellow because he won the Oscar for Cool Hand Luke, and later in his career, he was in police squad in the naked gun movies. But he did have this law in the middle where he would just appear in whatever. And the other one is Clue Goolagher, who is in my favorite zombie movie, Return of the Living Dead. And here he is acting with giant fake G,

which is a choice I do not understand. It is, he is such a cartoon character in this movie. And I have to assume he was like, this is garbage. understand it is he is such he is such a cartoon character in this movie and you have and I have to assume he was like this is garbage I'm gonna just do whatever I want yeah he's like he's like a character out of like a like green acres or something like that you know yeah he's like earnest before there was earnest or maybe in the same time there's a certain I'm sure yeah I would think he would go to parties and be like I was earnest before

who's like Jim Varney and I were workshopping characters at the same regional theater and suddenly he's making movies and my character Albert barely shows up anywhere this is bullshit you know yeah but George Kennedy is clearly annoyed to see walter uh... you know tearing with these young ladies he's got a meeting so they go to this business meeting it turns out so walters this big wall street guy wait wait before they go to the meeting what is he do the girls uh... he invites them uh... to his yacht he in fights them

to the yacht beginning the theme that I think Dan and I will have some disagreement on. No one in this movie is uninvited. Every character receives an invitation at some point. We'll get to it, we'll get to it, but as you'll see, the movie uninvited has a distinct lack of uninvited guests. Will he go to the yacht, Dan? Tell me about this meeting. The go to this meeting, Walter, is this Wall Street hot shot, but the SEC is closing in on him. He is a fraudster of some kind. I'm not really clear on what's going on with this guy's meeting. So this guy, Darryl, I think he knows something that could get them in trouble. And so they they're going to try to bribe him. And they barely wait for his answer before they just drown him

in the jacuzzi. And one thing that was funny was they're clearly saying SEC bribe him and they barely wait for his answer before they just around him in the jacuzzi and one thing that was funny was they're clearly saying scc which makes sense security exchange commission but the captions on amazon prime state fcc the federal communications commission what what's the fcc gonna do to them that's that bad like does he own two-state TV stations the same market like what's the problem yeah Walter revealed his nipple at the Super Bowl and it's not even his fault like the other guys involved just as bad it's fucked up he's like why did I say fuck

on Saturday at live that was a mistake now I got to run for my life so as you say Blue kills this dude by drowning him in a hot tub. Falling into water, check, and double check. But I like about it, it's easy to fall over a boat into water, but to fall into water on the boat, that takes guts. Very meta. First, they offer him three metal suitcases. Each one containing a million bucks in cash, and those will come up later. And they're not assuming they don't hold it on. They're like, what's that like? Pick the case with the money. What's that? No, yeah. Gold bricks. No, make me a millionaire or something.

It could be steel my case. Steel my case. I mean, it does feel like just rubbing it in that they're showing the money's am before killing Yeah, it's so funny because it's like here's a case of a million dollars will this buy your silence? I don't know guys. Well, here's a second case Every funny while he's drowning he's like I didn't know this was an option. I'll take the cases Yeah, well, he's drowning. Do you think he's like I hope I don't get a bacteria infection? Yeah, well he's drowning. Do you think he's like I hope I don't get a bacteria infection? He's in the doreusly gross. How often do you have this filter? So we cut from this murder to it's a deal or no deal is the briefcase show right thank you

Very important starting power and L. Yeah, we cut to a Guy at a gas station feeding the mutant cats some milk. And this goes on for a long time. He pets him for so long. And I'm on board with this as a cat lover. I'm like, this is fine. Because one of the things about this movie is the cat, when it's not spewing out, it's mutant spawn, is a very cute cat.

So maybe not the best villain for your film, I would argue. But so I'm enjoying this cat, enjoying its milk. I mean, I'm a little concerned because milk isn't necessarily good for cats. It can lead to higher rate and stuff. Yeah, that is true. I just, I was just like, are we going to find out this character's face? Who's petting this cat? Because it's shot in such a way that you don't know who it is. And usually that means it's kind of a mysterious ominous character. But in this case it's literally just probably they had in someone in earlier scene and they didn't want to show his face because they didn't have a new actor for it. Just a guy and two other guys come and they beat him up and steal his truck and but the cat gets in the back of the truck and kills them presumably I guess in retribution for beating up this guy who's giving the milk and the

truck falls down and bake met in slow motion for a very long time. It's great. It's like the cat's first revenge killing. You've got to taste for it now. Yeah. And he's trying to win back the audience is good graces at this point because at first he just killed a bunch of he killed none arm security guard like people to space right off is horrible but now he's got to kill these two jerks is the classic say the cat you know thing and screenwriting but this the cat saving the cat with the cat

yeah you get a cat in a truck you throw rocks at the truck and then the truck falls down a hill. I mean, as soon as this movie, the cat is only killing bad people. I got to say. Yeah. I mean, the workers at the lab might disagree with that. Sure, they're doing this. They were emutating him.

They were emutating him. Yeah. The security guards too. It's like a Michael Moore cat, who's like, I hate this evil corporation. So I'm going to bother a security guard all day. And it's like, he's not the problem michael morris like come on michael morris i would like to point out that the cat in this

first revenge killing and in one of its many metamorphosis has webbed webbed feet but he reaches out when he reaches out from behind the driver to attack him he has webbed cloth feet and then i so that the point i was like is it a platypus yeah is it like what's it turning into what's gonna happen

i mean maybe that was the experiment to see whether you could turn a cat into a platypus and side effect was it has a tiny little monster baby in its throat and they didn't see that coming you know like this is a platypus he's a name ready and everything. Yeah, so we cut to two dudes who are hanging out the marina looking to pick up women. One of them is a sort of a preppy guy and one of them is wearing more like, I don't know, party-dude shirts.

Yeah, like a real dude in stew situation. So this is Corey and Lance and they are so clearly some sort of universal primordial Zackens later from Save the Bell like I was like yeah, I got to find out like it It was like the world's collective unconscious was like we need a Zackens later and first that it got to this movie And it wasn't quite right and then it finally got to save by the bell Yeah, because it's literally like preppy with like a polo shirt and his best friend is wearing like neon sleeveless Jimware like preppy with like a polo shirt and his best friend is wearing like neon sleeveless gymwear. Well, not yet though.

I would like to point out again in the ongoing confusion of my 80s stereotypes. The non-blonde preppy guy is at first dressed very similarly to the classic 80s nerd sidekick a ducky like type because he has the awkward hat. And he's got the Hawaiian shirt, and he's kind of like any seasick. He's like, oh, and then later it's revealed that he's a world-class wrestler. And party girl starts making out with him immediately, despite the vomit. It's like the scene in the believer when Ryan Gosling throws up and then his girlfriend kisses him right afterwards to calm him down.

And I was like, eww, gross. That's even grosser than his dabbling with anti-Semitism. So they're sitting around and there's a jaunty sort of electric keyboard music playing and ours two spring breakers come join them. They're immediately attracted to them. Then their bearded friend, Hedgeworth, they call him.

I guess that's his last name. What's his first name again? Mike. Mike Hedgeworth shows up the same thing. For the first half of the movie, they just call him Hedgeworth. Yeah, because isn't George Kennedy's character Mike Kelly? First time. Yeah, I never knew his name too many times.

For a long time they were yelling Mike so often. They yell everyone's name in this movie a lot. And they were like Mike, Mike, I literally thought Mike was the cat. I thought, I was like, cool cat name. So headjourced there to say that there's no hotel for them in town. They seem very annoyed that he is joined them. I guess because the men to women ratio has now changed, but also they just, like, kind of treat him like he's unbearable. And I'm like, he seems like a perfectly nice guy.

I don't know why. He's very much supposed to be, I think he's supposed to be, it's like when he shows up, he's supposed to be the nerd. And he bumps, that's when Lance is like, oh, I'm not the nerd anymore. I guess I'm a jock now. Hey, yeah, get about totally. But he never, he's just like a, yeah, he's just a normal guy. If anything, it seems weird that he's hanging out

with Lance and Corey, because he doesn't seem to like any of the same things. Like he's a PhD student, I think. Like it doesn't make sense. Why are they friends? he seems to have a future and I wanted to mention Dan that Corey is played by the actor Rob Estes who is best known for silk stockings a show I refuse to admit or refuse to believe exists I think they just shot commercials to run on you when I was a kid I mean

I've definitely seen the opening credits for it. I don't know about any of the actual show, but... I was a young girl in the 80s and I think I can attest to the fact that there did exist a silk stockings and I probably watched every episode of it. From my... so I believe it to be a show about people playing saxophone and wet allies uh... is that what you got that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that men mentioned they're going to go on the shiat with Walter and the preppier guy knows that Walter's this huge Wall Street guy and he's very excited and so

the women invite the men along to the yacht. Interesting. Interesting. The word you just used to describe what happened there, Dan. I would call it exhibit B. Exhibit B for the prosecution. It is Walter's yacht is not their place to invite them. They are uninvited. It doesn't matter that they don't have the right to invite them as far as the boys are concerned They've been offered an invitation and they're going to take it. They didn't say to the girls Okay, we'll take us to your yacht. We're gonna throw you overboard. They didn't say hey Where's the yacht because we're gonna sneak on later in the middle of the night when no one sees us? They have been invited exhibit later, but once they arrived at the yacht Walter attempts to block them from being on the yacht

So we're ultimately offering them jobs that would require them to be on the yacht C is closing in I don't and Dan what wait, but then right after they invite the boys what happens then? Okay, so well they invite the, also one of the women grabs one of their legs immediately, like they're coming on high right from the beginning. But they're on the way to the boat, they find the cat inside of some kind of like equipment hold on the dock and I'm not sure how the cat got inside at this point. And later on we see that the cat can claw through steel. Yeah, super time.

It can bite through to our Kennedy shoes. And one of the women decides to take the cat along to save it. They see it has a medical like collar on and they feel bad for it. And this scene the cat does not want to be held by this woman. No, it's Suzanne who has the cat. And she says, oh, I'm going to take care of this cat. It's coming with me, which is kind of very kind of an invitation. You could say the cat was definitely invited on this trip.

It may be invited possibly coerced, but Suzanne was going to take that cat's Walter doesn't like cats. But Susanne was gonna take that cats Walter doesn't like cats and yet he gives in hoping that Susanne will Allow some part of his body to touch some part of her body. He gives in and allows her to bring the cat He does turn into some kind of creepy thing. I mean he's always getting the beginning No way you're talking about it. There's no way a millionaire with a mustache picks up to bikini girls and takes them to a fancy restaurant and it's not creepy. I'm sorry. It's not a charitable thing. He said no strings attached, Ali.

He meant that there's string bikinis won't be attached to them anymore. Yeah. Okay, well, we get a scene of exposition here where we learn that Walter has been such a dick to the whole crew that they've all quit. And the captain is a young woman named Rachel. I looked her up. She is Joyce Heiser's best friend in just one of the guys. That's who she is. Yeah. Yeah. She, back at her like original school or where they they know that she's not dressed up for her as a man for her thing. And Walter acts very sleazy towards her as he does every woman in the in the movie. And the guys arrive and Walter is like no no no no no and the spring break ladies are

like hey but you need a crew and he also wants to get rid of the cat, but you know, people are closing on him. So he offers a reluctant invitation to all of these people to stay on the yacht, case closed. And so they've got to get to the Cayman Islands right before the feds freeze their offshore bank account full of their ill-gotten gains. Yes. I think it was right around here I started to keep my husband excited and involved and not leave me alone watching to Uninvited on a Saturday night. I was like, let's make it a fun game where we count how many times they mentioned getting to the

Cayman's. Because right now we're already about on four I think. Yeah, we're going to get to the Cayman. I think. Yeah, we're gonna get to the Cayman. That's you know like when you're diagramming Walter's character that's his his want is so the young people are checking out the digs and they start dancing to non-descript pop music on the radio and the beard guy is dancing on his own that's a hedgeworth he's dancing on his own he's just sort ofworth. He's dancing on his own. He's just sort of pumping his fist back and forth. Like how Elliott dances. I mean, I like it more by going this slow.

But I dance deliberately like a baby with dance, just popping up and down on my knees. Yeah. Yeah. And you also strip down into a diaper and do it, right? I mean, if I'm going to go the full way, it's called the baby dance. Yeah, of course.

Well, because I'll bring you back to a time when a little show called Alimic Beal was on the air. Sure. And the nation became captivated by a computer-generated dancing baby. That Alimic Beal hallucinated or maybe it told her to kill, I don't remember the show that well. But people loved that dancing baby and I said, I want that kind of attention. And that's when the baby dance began.

Now let's fast forward to yesterday. My son is on Zoom attending his first grade class and I decide you know what would live in this class up. A little bit of the baby dance. I strip down to my diaper and I make sure I'm in this range of the zoom camera and that's why my son doesn't have a school right now. So if anyone knows of a first grade that is looking for students I have a child who desperately needs an education. So George Kennedy says he doesn't like punk kids and I am

totally on his side at this point. I mean, Dan, you like punk kids though but you don't like these kids. Yeah, so I don't like these kids but he's signed some all duties one of them, one is gonna be a bus boy dishwasher, one's going to be a maid. The captain, Rachel, is trying to teach Clue how to drive the boat, and he's overacting like crazy. And the guys are in the kitchen, bitching about, having to work for this free yacht trip that they were not invited on by the owner of the yacht. We can stipulate that at least. And but then the women come in to say how hot it is in the kitchen through three times one time in

unison, I believe, and they am but their shirts enough to show via their cleavage that there's nothing that they're wearing underneath. There's no need to wear this movie but it is suggested several times. Dan Mr. Skin McCoy giving us the full report. At this point you're like it's more just like having fun on a yacht type movie right? It's barely a monster movie. Yeah it should be called yacht invited because they've been invited on a yacht. And Dan they start making out with the boys except for hedgeworth the only one who is doing any actual work seems unfair he is the unfleckable one at this point and like but also it seems like these are two leads spring breaker ladies have been printed on

like the first guys they saw like their baby yeah clue, googger, is drunk at the wheel. And everyone else's dress for dinner. I would like to add at this point is when clue says the infamous line, this is for you, Tammy Faye. Oh yeah, they're by reminding us that it's 1987. I missed this line. What was for Tammy Faye? I even backed up to see if I could figure out what exactly was for Tammy Faye. The team, the move, the ship, him.

He wanted to give her something. Yeah, he gave his character a little bit of inner life. He wanted to bring him out on screen. He's like, if the other guy gets to have the after dinner banana, I get to drop my Tammy Fader reference. So, alright, everyone's having dinner. And this is where hedgeworth is chatting with Rachel the captain and they seem to be hitting it off. Maybe finally Hedgeworth has made a

love connection but Walter comes over to hassle Rachel. He's like what do you see in this guy? Well maybe the fact that he's not a dick and he's age-appropriate but everyone like is dancing around the music in the way that people do in movies when there's only like four people in a room which has never happened to me in life. It's a very, they dance extremely whitely and it makes me wonder if any music was playing when they were actually doing the dancing because it's just kind of like generic dance moves that you could just plug any any kind of soft rock song onto I mean, I've never been on a movie set, but I'm pretty sure

They play the music that's gonna be in the movie so they can sing it up, right? I Hate to ragged these do, but that's exactly right. That's exactly what they do Clues Clue Gorliger is still drinking. Now he's singing the battle of the Republic for some reason. Rachel discovers him. How many hours of improv from Clue-gurliger at the tiller do you think they have?

Like, I honestly think that the script just says, Clue does something, whatever he should appears on screen, which is not going to be for very much longer, because she kicks him off the helm. He goes to his wine cooler, which in this case is a cooler full of wine and not the drink wine cooler. And once again, there's a cat inside a closed bin and comes out and kills Clue and there are shots

of blood pumping from his neck. Well, I do like that we see the mini cat coming out of the mouth and Clue has the wear with all despite being very drunk and overacty. He smashes his bottle of wine to create a weapon too late though. He gets blasted and then his next target is pumping right? Yeah, I smashed my bottle ahead of time just in case I'm gonna get into some shit. Do you know what he is? What is he is?

Chrisening the yacht at that point? Yeah, that's a little late. That's a little late to be doing that. Dan, you mentioned he was also spitting wine at the cat. That's why the cat ripped his neck on. Yeah, again, early on the cat only attacks those who threaten the cat. We've always seen it right before this, the cat is walking on the engine room and there's like the engine riffs and it scares the cat and the cat rips a cable out with its little demons.

The cat is very reactive, it's just reacting to things. Oh, I, I, I, I, I have this later, it says like Walter, like we see the cat in the engine room, like the boat has stopped because the engine's overheating and I'm like, did the cat sabotage the boat apparently? That's actually what happened. That is what happened, but just because the cat was just reacting. The cat is a lot like the iron giant, I guess, where like if you attack it, it's gonna attack you back,

but if you don't attack it, it will hang out with you in a beatnik. Or me, Elliot, if I think someone's being mean, I lash out before the game. I've been the brunt of that. Once I just went to Hans Dan, a hairbrush, and he thought it was a gun, and he, I think he's struggling me.

And I was like, Dan, Dan, I just wanted you to look your best, it was before a show. And then I died and they had strangling me. And I was like, Dan, Dan, I just wanted you to look your best. It was before a show. And then I died and they had to replace me with a body double at the last minute. Do you guys remember that? It was crazy. Thank you.

That was weird. And Dan, there's also times where when you want attention, you really want attention. But when you don't want attention, you want to be left alone kind of like a cat too. So you are kind of like a cat. I am very much like a cat. Dan, if you ever thought about legally changing your name

from Dan McCoy to Dan McCat? No. Now. Well anyway, George Kennedy, here's his compatriots, Clue Grueger, Fallen aboard. And he goes to investigate. Falling into water? Check, creep.

He was watching this movie that frank louis right was inspired to create perhaps his masterwork falling water and he was like what if the water fell rather than clue goolagr i have to stress this it looks like the gooliger originally called falling gooliger yeah and and the and and the people he was designing the house for were like, I don't want a house that looks like clue Guliger is falling over. What are you doing?

Who is this? I was like, come on, return to the living dead. He was in a lot of Westerns at one point. Come on, he was in a lot of TV people. He was in McQ and they're like, no, forget it. And Frank Lloyd writes like, come on, it'll look good. It's me, Frankie Lloyds, come on, I'm a good, he has look good.

29.99, any house? Do you think there might be some like intellectual property issues by using this guy's likeness? Maybe we should change it to water instead. And he's like, oh, so you own the copyright for water? Okay, you're the one who might get in trouble, but we'll change it to falling water, sure. Well, anyway, it's gonna be a lot less hilarious, though.

Yeah, it's gonna be, this is the same thing that happened when I designed the Klugeon heim and they made me change it to the Klugeonheim. Originally, it was a spiral-cut Klugeuliger. Kelly and I like that you're postulating that Frank Lloyd Wright originally wanted to design buildings that were hilarious, though. Yeah, it's wacky. No one knew that side of him. So George, Kennedy and Walter, like, find the blood

and the railing, and they assume he just hit his head and fell overboard, but they can't stop their escape. Which is a very, very realistic thing to believe. Like, you could believe that Cluegou Liter's character, Albert got children in the film. And hit a set. 100%. I don't know.

I mean, if I was, you know, I'm just throwing this out there. If I was, if I was in the moment, if I was their characters, I would probably assume that he was attacked by a cat demon, his blood got bullied, and then he fell overboard.

I mean, that is the second most believable thing that could have happened. That is what your mind would go to pretty quickly I think. Because it seems like it's not just that you got to attack like his body is reacting crazy to the wounds. At first I'm like is that supposed to be like his artery pumping out blood? But it's not really. It's just as neck is throbbing all strange and then he falls overboard. Yeah. Yeah. His his there's a lot of pulsating in the movie. There's a lot of pulsating. It's a pulsation heavy film and Albert is our first introduction to that. But now it's

the next day Dan and right, they found Albert's blood. They've got bigger problems with the boat. Yeah, well, yeah, they can't they Rachel finds the can't find clues. He's the blood. Walter dangles the chance of getting her boat back in return for just continuing to the Cayman's What I love about is to be her dad's boat Yeah, what I love is that he's not like we'll just give you the boat back He's like I'll give it to you for a pretty good price Exchange for leaving this man in the sea But you know Walter's like he can't swim he is delready and she's like okay fine fine fine

do you think behind the scenes behind the scenes somebody made the joke that like all this this blood on the deck that's quite a clue uh... get it clue oh my god i never thought about it and then they're like let's use that in the movie and they're like wait we can't

it's just his actors name is not the characters name well maybe we can change the character's name to Clue. No, we call him Albert in all the previous scenes. Well, we've got 20 different cats playing the same cat. You're saying he can't have a middle name that's Clue, I don't. Yeah, and we called one guy Hedgeworth, and then we called him Mike after a while.

I mean, who cares? Yeah, and the screenwriter was like, that's it, I'm off the set, and that's why David Mamott's name is not in the credits anymore. And the two blonde women look exactly the same it's right and lots of trouble keeping who was who until i think is it season or season when she starts to get crazier and like

uh... she has her like meltdown that's when i started to understand because her hair was like for her hair got straight yeah got straight and then and sad with a sad frightened hair it did have a fight left in it Yeah, I got straight and it's sad. It was a sad frightened hair. It did have any fight left in it. Yeah, the hair just gave up the ghost at that point. Yeah.

The hair went permanent. I don't think so. They did help that Suzanne mostly wears blue. And Rachel mostly wears pinkish red. Oh, no, Rachel, Bonnie. Where's kind of pinkish red. So I didn't know their names for a lot of it so I was just like ah blue suit and red suit like their video games

one of them has curly hair and one of them straight that's really the way you should send these interchangeable characters out of it curly the stooge has no hair what do you talk about oh that's true and mo has a mo haircut um does that one come now when you When you go to the salon, that's what you asked for. You say to me a mohair. But that is what mohair suits are made out of. It's all hair from Mo of the three moh find of the three studes.

Moa was this last one. Howard. Mohair. Thank you. Matt Mohair's hair. And there's a limited supply of it. So at some point you will not be able to get mo hair suits anymore because they'll have run out of

mo's hair. It's like helium or or tungsten that way. It's just a natural resource for running through very many hair keep growing a little bit after death. So they keep taking up. Well, there was a thing Ethan Hawke was in first reform to use watching sad videos of Moheri Seats going away. That's what really made him play.

That's what made him possibly commit a terrorist act. Yeah. Okay, I've wanted to get along to this next scene for a while because this scene is inexplicable to me. This is one of these horror movie I'm going to make a big leap scene because Hedgeworth comes in with some of Albert's blood. He's gotten off of the railing and he uses a

Sextent as a microphone or microphone microscope to examine it. It would be a Photography Dan a sexton I Guess you can use it as a microscope, but I have no idea why he thinks he's gonna find anything what motivates him He is on that boat, Dan. And he just wants an excuse to get close to that captain. So he's like, what are they having in the ship cabin? A sextant.

Oh, and it means I get to say sextant forever. Okay, great, done. And then she hands it to him. And he's like, I gotta have a reason for why I'm holding this thing. I'll use it as a... Give me a spryzum. Okay.

Okay. Okay. Well, he finds out, blood cell count and Albert's blood is abnormally high. Meanwhile, content warning for attempted sexual assault, Walter comes in on Bobby, doing a Robics and first he tries to impress her by how rich he is. Then he starts trying to fondle her or by how rich he is, he starts trying to fondle her and assault her. But then one of the dudes jumps him. Lance. A.C. Slater.

George Kennedy shoots him in the shoulder, but it stopped from killing him by the other guy and the cat puppet bites George Kennedy's, Achilles tendon area and he shoots around the room wildly to try and get the cat which runs off. Yeah, which like tears is ankle apart. It's like like the end of a pet cemetery, right? Yeah. Where, what's that little baby, the dead baby, that's that guy's ankle off or whatever.

Oh yeah. Gage. Thank you. And so his heart is racing like crazy. Like even more than you would if your Achilles tendon was bitten off by cat. It's what George can probably looks like when he goes up a flight of stairs. And poor George Kennedy, because you feel form at this point of his career, because he's like, God damn it. I got an Oscar and now I'm in a movie where people are throwing matted cat puppets at me. And then he actually has to pretend to be dragged off screen for a little bit like the cat.

So the cat, you can see him kind of scootsing across the floor like you got the shot. Got the shot. There's a great where he just starts blasting around the room and he shoots a liquor bottle. And then after the liquor bottle explodes, you see the cat puppet behind it. And I'm like, whoa. He's actually, I thought he was just shooting at liquor. And they're all very amazed that the cat,

he's like, it was the cat, the cat in the like, there's no way a cat could tear through your shoe. Which is reasonable. If anything, that's the most believable thing that's when claims the entire movie. But I don't believe Walter Graham is a millionaire, really. But I believe a cat could chew through a shoe. Yeah, did you see that thing?

It's all buff. Like, it's all poked out. It looks like the cat looks like that meme of the regular dog and then the big mussely, bigger brother dog. Yeah. That cat is, so the regular cat is carrot top and the public as well as his carrot top when he got super ripped. Yeah, yeah.

Now Rachel wants to send out a Mayday but Walter takes the gun and shoots the radio insisting they still go to the Cayman and presumably in Chicago, Gellian and her husband take a drink. We're wasted by now because I think that's like the 20th time they've gone to the Cayman's. Nothing's going to stop me from getting to the Cayman's. Oscar winner George Kennedy said before being fake drag off screen by a death bite rip it. Written cat by a cat puppet inside another cat puppet double puppet.

But they managed to turn the tables on Walter take the gun but the engine will not start and hedgeworth informs everyone. We do we do and we do and we the captain says the immortal line. I think it's in the wild bunch if he moves shoot his balls off and that's how that scenes ends. Uh, head to earth tells everyone they're dealing with a mutant cat infection based on the blood he found again a big leap. Uh, but they're like oh yeah it's a lab cat that makes sense and something starts

pressing out of George Kennedy's like sort sort of like Chess stomach area as if like an alien's gonna pop up and nothing pops out. He just dies. And then there's a strange thing. It's whenever they started being affected from now on, it looks like they're growing at testicle somewhere out of part of their body. Like it doesn't look scary.

It looks like they're, is that what the view of the cat does? Is that it's special power? It has this ability to create instant goiters in human nature. Yes, that's it's amazing mutant power in the lab. I wonder if the Pentagon was like, this is the future of warfare. Yeah. And when they bite you, you get goiters and testicles

all over your body. Make it happen. Yeah, it makes weird bulges and also makes your veins pop out. And I'm like, I'm sure you guys are like me. You're like, kind of wish that cat would bite my forearms, right? Really make it extra vascular, right? Not really, but, and hedgeworth is also like,

oh, by the way, if the cat ate food, it would probably contaminate the food. Well, that's not really based on anything. Yeah, I thought that was later on, but anyway, the point is, yeah, no, like, yeah, the infections are all like, they've put a bladder under the fake skin and they're like squeezing air into it from off camera

just to make the skin pulse. And, but George Kennedy dies. There's a kind of funny shot of all of them, like from a dead body POV, like looking up at all the people looking at him, and then I cut to them throwing him off the boat. Well, they wrapped him in a sheet, they bury him at sea, you know? Yeah. This is the first of multiples of these.

Yes. And they go, they go, he's at the Caymans in heaven now. He did make it to the Cayman. I wish one of this maybe the Cayman's was inside all of us the whole time. Yeah. So headwear is the real Cayman's was the friends we made on the way. They're trying to fix the boat. The preppy kids chatting with Walter and who gives him a fancy watch to show off how rich he is and that happens. It's a wall safe to show all the money and he's bribing the kid to help him get to the Caymans.

And yeah, this is where they find some food crumbs and hedgeworth makes the leap that if you eat food that the cat ate, you'll mutate as well. It's too bad they didn't have the budget to have people turn into cats when they mutated. That would have been better if it was like people started turning into cat people. Yeah. There's no joke there. I think it would have been a better movie. And I would have called it yacht cats. Mm-hmm. Curse of the yacht cat people. Curse of the yacht cat people. Which would be a more accurate title since again, everyone

has been invited on to this yacht. Suzanneanne the preppy dude make out and he's bragging about how he's got it all worked out yeah he's been seduced by Walters his honey words right yeah the engine's not still like green and gremma worm tongue them a little bit this is the make-out portion of the movie because also Bobby and the guy got shot make out The fully operator went on to overtime on the tongue noises I did not expect to see their tongues just like literally caressing each other like it was an a on flux cartoon No, it's all over each other. I made a student film when I was in college where like it was an a on flux cartoon. Oh, yeah. Just gonna wave all over each other.

I made a student film when I was in college where like it had extreme close-up of kissing that was deliberately supposed to be gross. Like the whole point of it was gross after the fact. And this was like that. Yeah, it's kind of like, it's kind of like, and this may be saying too much about me, it's kind of like the kissing you see in pornography

where it's for somehow that's the most obscene thing about what you're watching. Is this kind of like over-the-top-tongued kissing? And you're like, ugh, now I feel weird. So he's talking about how we can't feel his arm, so she moves the sheet to look at it, and the cat is there, gnawing at his fingers. That's the best moment in the whole movie. How did you notice that this cat was just chewing on his fingers? And so he knows that he's poisoned and so in sort of a combination of like a noble sacrifice

and just panicking, he jumps off the boat but he also knocks Bobby off. And that's worth it. Now this is a serious question, guys. Yeah. So he is freaking out. He keeps saying over and over. He keeps complaining about his poison to blood. Do you think, okay, do you think this is a reference to the 2017 EP by the band Witchvomit titled Poison Blood? Like, was it a little Easter egg for fans? Yeah, wait, we did it come up? 2017. Yeah, I think the answer is in the question as they sometimes say.

So it was like a no-sterdomest thing. We're predicted it. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, cool. Much as in Gillian's new show Utopia, there is a comic book that seems to have clues to future events. In this movie, there are a number of hidden clues to future death metal releases. Oh, yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. So by the way, is the guest dude, it is a death metal release. Yeah, I'm not. I mean, I don't know if that's so much a guest as like a context clues knowing what you listen to. Yeah, that's fair. That's fair.

They dive in trying to find Bobby, but she apparently cannot swim. She is gone as well. And Suzanne starts to panic. They're all going to die on the boat, which seems reasonable. Unreasonable is she starts throwing accusations around that other people are at fault for bringing the cat on board. Walter is released from quarters because they need help to find the cat and the preppy and Walter are looking around the boat leaving poison sardines everywhere. At one point the prep kid says the hunt is still the hunt. I don't know what that means. He's just trying to look cool in front of Walter Graham at this point. That's a thing like even though like he knows that he doesn't want to impress him.

He still kind of does like it's a self like a subconscious thing. And and this is when we see this my second. No, actually, it's my first favorite meal in the movie. Yeah, even more so than the inexplicable banana that Walter Graham is eating at the party earlier. When the captain is there's not a lot of food left. And so she's serving Susanna and Walter Graham like handfuls of cereal and like half full glasses of champagne. Yeah.

Like the champagne, just like the dinner. Well, because they've also run out of fresh water, which no one seems at first very concerned about at all. Like, they're more concerned about the breakfast cereal shortage than they are about the fact that they have no water in the middle of the ocean. I feel like corn flakes and champagne is like a Joe Walsh Singapore. It's like Jerry Seinfeld's idea of a celebratory meal. Oh, Dan, or before this did the captain and Hedgeworth have their first kiss?

There was some point of which he kisses her on the forehead. I don't remember other kisses, but I'm. There's one other official kiss. The official were boyfriend, girlfriend kiss, as they're hunting the cat. This was what's testing for us. See, yeah. And Susanne's getting really jumpy in the scene.

And she's like spilling ship hand on her hands and licking it off. And she started looking like a cat. So maybe she is turning it to a cat. Yeah, it could be. So in the course of trying to find and kill the cat, the prep kid shoots a hole in the boat and then shoots a boiler, which explodes on him, and then the cat attacks him, and there's a hard cut to them throwing another body off the boat, which I thought was hilarious.

Do you really shoot him made that? Obviously hilarious. It's in like a dictionary for comedic editing. That was pretty good. The cat chews through a metal wall to get it. Their last cornflakes and waffle mix, which is what they have locked up. Yeah, Suzanne. This millionaires boat, he had fresh fruit for one party

and then the rest of his food stores were just like like some of the and these are the ins of the good poison those might have come pre-poisoned i don't know this is a shopping but uh... at this point susan has gone totally nuts and she has uh... she does not believe that the food is contaminated. She thinks that the others are hoarding it and everyone's nerves are fraying.

Walter slaps Rachel, which causes her to drop her keys, which Suzanne takes to get the food. That scene is like Walter gives this tour de force of lines. I think at one point he says, well, at least you're being consistent at being a bitch. And then later on when Suzanne's having her crazy laughing, he's like, what are you laughing about? You're gonna die. That's like that was a bit his audition tape. Yeah. Well, Suzanne eats the contaminated food. And sure enough, her neck veins start throbbing and pop open.

And she's gone to unfortunately, no cut to her being thrown off. No, instead, there's a hard cut to a lightning storm, which for a moment, I thought a different movie had started playing. There's no build up to it. Yeah. Uh, they discover the whole and the whole from before, the one that was shot there that has grown bigger. I had thought that the movie had forgotten that this existed, but the boat is sinking and they're loading some of the money to the lifeboat, but Walter goes back for more and he is killed by the cat.

And Hedrick finds him. He and Rachel get on the lifeboat and the mutant cat is just under the boat. This is great. Uh huh. Uh they throw it off and it becomes better on a game. Both of them in turn. She's like, she's like, we're okay and Hedrick goes, I don't think it's over yet. And then the cat climbs on board again. And they figure out that it's because the lifeboat is the only floating object around. So they toss one of the briefcases of money over for the cat to cling to. That floats up. Bye bye.

Yeah. Celebratory, a cue celebratory music. Yeah. And we see some, we get some very classic toy boat in a bathtub Special effects here for the sinking of the yacht. I do believe that they I looked up some trivia for this I think that they said that the director Film some of this in his pool which makes sense. Oh, I thought you're gonna say that the director sank a yacht for this movie Sank a whole yacht. No, you're thinking of catty Did not have the budget for that. All the budget was going to the ADR for the cat

that, including the trigger warning, I shouldn't say if you're annoyed by cat meows, like trigger warning because now, like on screen, off screen, the cat just continues going. Now, even when the cat is close up of the live cat and its mouth is clearly closed, yeah, it's still meowing, it's like in addition to mutating him, they taught him the ancient art of ventriloquism because he could throw his voice even. Yeah, it's also the meowing of the live cat.

Yeah, it's also the meowing of the live cat. Yeah, it's also the meowing of the live cat. Yeah, it's also the meowing of the live cat. Yeah, it's also the meowing of the live cat. Yeah, it's also the meowing of the live cat. Yeah, it's also the meowing of the live cat. Yeah, it's also the meowing of the live cat. Yeah, it's also the meowing of the live cat. Yeah, it was, that they just keep looping basically. Like, you can tell that they just got a very few cat sounds and kept reusing them throughout the movie. But, yeah, it's the metronome of the movie. That's what keeps the pace up, keeps the tension up.

It's similar to, it's what they didn't done Kirk is that they looped in a meowing sound in the background just to keep you tense on the edge of your scene. That's, it's similar to in wet hot American summer, how they have the same sound effect of something shattering whenever things are thrown off screen. And here's just that cat, just that cat sound effect. And you know that they were like,

the production manager was like, this is what we can afford. We can either have one more cat sound or we can get a banana. What's it gonna be? And Green talks like, well, the banana really makes that scene. Okay, cut the other cat sound. We'll make do with what we have. And then in the edit, they were like, why did I make that choice? Why

did I go with the banana instead of the cat sound? Okay, so we're at the final couple of scenes. Head's worth and racial have made it to safety. They're talking to official on the island. They have some of the money still from this. So they've come out pretty well. This is a million dollars. There must be a million dollars.

What she says when they're in the lifeboat and they open the case and it's pouring rain. Like she doesn't skip a beat. The thing is barely open and she already is guessing. At the end. Yeah. And what they can buy with it. And then they have transferred the money to the empty gym bag

that they made sure to throw into the lifeboat as they were escaping a sinking ship with a monster cat on. She was like, we might have to do some shopping along the way. So I guess I'll bring this empty bag with us. Oh, thank goodness I did. An empty gym bag, which is similar in a lot of ways to the way that the cat's skin is shed when the little tiny muscle cat jumps out of its body

But the local officials dismiss any talk of mutant cat as As C madness they don't believe it actually happened may I may I please add my fun fact my uninvited fun fact here Which is the actor who plays the official in where they got into again. Did they make it to the end? No, the answer is something else. I don't know. I didn't recognize the...

I don't know my Caribbean flash. I would say so where they're going, but is played by none other than Austin Stoker, who was Ethan Bishop in assault on precinct 13. Oh, yeah. The best actor they have going, and they give them two lines. That's great, that's great. That's terrible. Okay, so we cut to the briefcase last scene, we cut to the briefcase, washed up on a

brief beach, and a kid runs at a little boy, picks up a cat, but this cat looks totally different from the other cat. It is black and short-haired, whereas the other one is orange and long-haired. So I have no idea what's going on here. What we're supposed to take away from that. Yeah, and then it freezes on the child making a weird face. Like not an ominous face. This is a game he was like, are we still shooting? Like freezer and we're terrified. And then what, guitar sting credits?

Yeah. Yeah, and mutant cat will return in. I'm invited to still uninvited. Yeah. Still in hiding at this point. I'm only waiting to must have been lost in the mail. You know? Guys, we've come to the final

judgment's portion is this movie and I'm going to use the special shock tober categories. Well, it's more appropriate this time. Totally scarifying, totally snorifying, or frighteningly funny. Elliot, I'm going to ask you first. I'm going to switch it up. Oh, okay. I'm going to sit. Elliot, I'm gonna ask you first. I'm gonna switch it up. Oh, okay. Well, now that we've made it to the Cayman Islands of Final Judgment, where we've been heading this whole time, I'm gonna say I thought this movie was frighteningly funny.

It is, especially if, like, Gillian or like me, you have a weakness for 80s things, and things that are every frame of it screams, it's the 1980s. This is especially. I don't know. I mean, if you don't find really weird cat demon puppets that come out of other cat puppets mouths, but make the same sound effect over and over again. If that's not funny to you, then maybe I don't understand you. But I would say, it's really funny. Yeah, just really quick. I'm going to in frightening, funny, frightening, funny, I agree. Stewart, what do you say?

Yeah, I'm with you. It's so silly and yet like there's different, like it's, you're not, even though it's cheap, it's not all stuck on the same location. There's a lot of really weird characters, a lot of weird choices. Yeah, it's super funny. And Galea, you suggested this. Can only assume this is your favorite movie ever made. Yeah, I mean, I have a different category actually, which is, you know, invite me to invite, I would say. fight me to un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un-un Flynn says if you like your ham, I feel like your perms. And people are, I guess they're not in a video, so they're scrolling through and they're like, what?

What does this mean? I don't understand this blur. Yeah, when you're scrolling, are there blurbs? Or do you, I don't know. I don't know. What do we do with blurbs these days? Yeah, that was really great. I was nice to watch. It's been a while since we've gotten to watch a genuine,

like, weird, like cheesy 80s horror movie. Yeah, I was really, I thank you for suggesting this. I have been wanting to see this for a while and some friends of mine actually showed it at a movie night I was at, but it was the third movie. It was starting like after, it was like 1 a.m. And it was at a party, like I'd been drinking, like I fell asleep immediately. So thank you for giving me a second chance at I'm invited. You are welcome. Anytime.

I've got a long list of 80s horror films, so have me on next year. Oh, Jeff, we'll hold you for that. That'll be a Shocktober tradition. And speaking of traditions, Dan, traditionally, this is the part of the show where we do something else, right? Well, that's the Frissegway. How's that Frissegway and anything can follow it?

That's right. Well, just come down to Kalen's general Segways. We got Segways for any occasion. Goddamn it. Please don't, and I apologize, say, when it comes down to rent a segway for a tour. We actually, that's not the kind of segway we have. We do not have personal mobility devices. Okay. And people come by and I always, they get so disappointed and I apologize.

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So I figured this was the next best thing. Maybe Stu can recommend a mocktail. Do you own mocktail for them? Ooh, a macktail. That's a little difficult since I normally just pour a ton of booze in a glass with ice and then drink it while crying. But let's see, I would do a splash of... I would do ginger beer. I would do a splash of pineapple juice, and I would do some whipped cream. Oh nice. Okay, interesting. It's a treat.

That's a treat. Now this next message is for Mitchell Lasting with Held from Jacob Lasting with Held. And the message is, hey bud, small timber and or vimber has come and gone and shocked tober is ripe in the air. You know what that means? You're a birthday! What better way to celebrate than a shout out straight from a floppers mouth, specifically me in this case. Thanks for being an awesome brother and an even better dungeon master. May this year bring good health and good fortune. Catch you on the flippity flop.

So those are... The role of Dungeon Master is more important than brother, right? Well, you're guiding them like through life. I don't guide my brothers at all. Well, you're the younger brother, Dan, so it would be strange if you were guiding you. I mean, you haven't ever met my brothers. I mean, I haven't met them actually. Now that I think about it, and I often guide my brother, which is why I was able to mold

him into my exact opposite sports loving slob. I shouldn't say slob, a sports loving, uh, let's just say, he was a little flabby, but then the love of a good woman turned him around, I think. That's true. She's fighting me for control of him now, and I'm not liking it. Yeah, I mean, when he was born, you saw him as a tabula rasa, right?

Like a real fixer upper. I saw him as a tabula racial ghoul. I thought he was a blank slate that I could turn into a Batman villain named the sportsman. Now he's a Batman villain who's themed around sports, but mainly sports bar trivia. So he steals things. He's a man from the title.

And he's like, Batman, I'll give back the diamond if you can answer this question. Which teams played in the 31st Super Bowl? And Batman would be like, I don't know, I'm not really into sports and that would be the end of the adventure. Yeah. And these like, but you probably own

at least one sports team, right? I mean, he's like, just in the WNBA. I really want to give those, those ladies a shot. We got to expand the audience space. And he's like, okay, and the sportsman's like, I respect that. Okay, cool. So we have a whole character fleshed out. I guess we're just waiting on a phone call from DC Comics.

Or Warner Brothers. Maybe they just want to put straight in the movies. The sportsman, David, played and straight. A lot of the movies, huh? Yeah, yeah. Guys, we have another announcement to make. This episode is being released the morning of October 24th, Saturday, October 24th, which happens to be the same day when we will be doing our newest flop house live Zoom show.

That's right. It's the flop house live in your home tonight, October 24th at 9 PM Eastern 6 PM Pacific. Just go to the flop house YouTube page. We'll be streaming. We're going to be talking about the exorcist to the heretic. And we'll also be raising money for charity, like during our Howard the Duck show. You guys were super generous and super attentive during that last show. We really appreciate it. Please join us tonight October 24th, 9pm Eastern 6pm Pacific for the exorcist to the heretic. It'll be just like a regular flop

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And I will print them out and then throw them over my shoulder laughing because I don't have to answer them So that's flop house live tonight October 24th the The X-RSS 2, the heretic. Be there and be scared. Maybe. Yeah. Yeah. We'll find out. I also want to mention that I have my new children's book, Shark Win Hippo. It's in stores now. Order it through your local independent bookstore. Yeah. Do it. And if you want to support, if you want to support any of either of my two bars, you can go to either Hinter Lands Bar or Minis Bar and pick up to go drinks or sit in their patio. I'm assuming unless things change in the next week or so. And you can also email Hinter Lands Bar merch at gmail.com because we are selling t-shirts and hoodies over the internet. Currently, we're

only shipping to the US, but that might change depending on whether or not we get stamps.com. Yeah. You know, like, Stuart's probably low to make too naked a plea, so I will make a naked plea. Thank you. And that's a hard time for. It's the only thing that Stewart is loath to do naked. Yeah, it is. Literally. I've seen him in so few clothes, but like it is a hard time for people in the restaurant and bar industry. So if you can support those enterprises in any way you can, please do.

And now we shall return to the fun parts of the show. This is Letters, fun parts of the show. This is letters, a part of the show where we read letters from you listeners, not you specifically necessarily, unless we read your letter. Possibly, yeah. Yeah, Dan pulls out the giant mailbag

that you have in your apartment at 1, 2, 3, fake street. And you pull out a random letter that you have not prescreened in any way. And I say all for Santa Claus. This is from John last name withheld. Who writes? At dinner tonight, my wife said she was in the mood for an 80s movie. Hey, 80s movie.

So he settled on foot loose. I searched YouTube for a clip of the excellent opening theme because I wanted to announce our decision on Facebook knowing that all of my friends and family really care a lot about what movie we're going to watch today. Anyway, I came across the trailer for the 2011 foot loose remake that I didn't even know existed. It has Dennis Quaid as the Reverend originally played by John Lithgow, and then otherwise unremarkable cast. They're shot for shot cuts along with dialogue and sequences straight from the original.

The main difference that I could see was more twerking and on a positive note, some roles for minority characters that aren't just extras. I wish... I know. Wait, knowing there's twerking in it now, I wish they'd just gone all the way and called it but loose. That was a nice gesture. By the hustle and flow guy, right? Craig, I think so.

I think you're right. I don't like putting the words but and loose together for the title of the movie. I gotta say. It's everyone's dream for the business they do with their butt to be loose and easy to have a simple flow that doesn't need to be thought of. Hi, I'm Elliot Kaelin, I'm a constipation aide. Have you ever had, yeah? No.

John continues, I know that Footloose is one of the pentacles of Western artistic expression, but I can't, for the life of of me figure out why it needed a remake. I'm guessing it's some sort of nostalgic cash in targeted at gin exers and older millennials. A part of me wants to see it out of curiosity, but if I ever do, I will not be paying for it. What would you say is the most unnecessary remake and or what's a remake that never needed to be made but actually turned out to be a good movie? John Lesname withheld.

I mean, I'm going to answer why it got remade. I think it's money. I think it's they owned it and they wanted to make money off it. Well, they said here's a name that exists already. So we're taking less of a chance with it than we would with a new thing, much like they thought when they made the original footloose, which was a remake of, and they searched through a file and they said, it's not a remake of anything. How is that possible? Why is this paperwork missing?

It reminds me of my imaginary conversation with JJ Abrams when that second Star Trek movie came out where I was like, you could come up with a new bad guy. Like, you don't have to use Khan. It could be like another bad guy, and he said, this is just a something in your imagination. I come up with a new bad guy. Like, you don't have to use Khan. It could be like another bad guy. And he said, this is just something in your imagination. I don't have a response to that. And I said, then I consider it a win.

And I turned over and went to sleep. Let's do it. What's a remake you think is unnecessary? I mean, like we did the Robocop remake here on the show. And it was pretty bland. And Robocop is such a singular, wonderful experience. It obviously didn't need to be remade.

What do you guys? I will say that a remake that, or a remake, I guess, or reimagining that works is the new Susperia, which I love. Oh, yeah, that's a really good one. I'm going to answer the second question because I found that easier to think about. The Ocean's 11 remake is so much superior to the first one that people forget that there was a first one.

The first one's just like the rat pack hanging out. And there's a certain pleasantness to that. And it's got a great ending. But otherwise, it's just kind pleasantness to that, and it's got a great ending, but otherwise it's just kind of, you know, interminable, whereas the Sotterberg one is breezy and fun. Is that the one where, at the end of it, at the original of Frank Snotris, sees the Statue of Liberty at the New York New York casino and realizes it was Earth the whole time? Yep, yep, yep.

I was thinking about the, I mean, there's a lot of unnecessary remakes because there's almost never, nothing has to be remade. There's never, there's no, there's almost never a movie where like the world would be out of, out of joint if something was remade. But I threw my mind back to Gus Van Sands' psycho remake, which I know he was doing this kind of like an art experiment, I guess, but it was really, it was a, it was a strange choice to remake a very good movie shot for shot and Only to add that the only thing you're adding is that Vince von masterbates where Norman Bates did not masturbate on camera But his last name is baits, I like it

Good point. That's a good point That's just money on the table and The but it feels like if he had remade, like there's something about remaking a not good movie shot for, I mean, like, I don't, I didn't, I was not the huge fan of the disaster artist movie, but taking something that where you have to really try hard to remake the mistakes in something, it's kind of an interesting idea, but there's a bunch of movies where the remakes, it didn't have to be remade, but like the remakes would, like the remake of 310 to Yuma is a real strong Western adventure and there was

no need for Peter Jackson to make a new King Kong, but I actually like that King Kong a lot. And you love the remake of taking a Pellum 1, 2, 3, right? No, but not falling that category, not a fan of that one. The movie that inexplicably decides to show you an out of control train by using slow motion to show the train going around a corner. But and like the new plan of the Apes movies like the old plan of the Apes movies are great but the new ones. They took it in a new direction I don't like the new new ones not the Tim Burton plan of the Apes which has amazing costumes but doesn't really make sense as a movie. Gilly and do you want to join us in possibly offending people we may want to work with in the future

by slacking their remakes? I will go with one with that. I just didn't see because the original was so dear to me, which is point break. And so I have not seen, I should say, I've not seen the remake, but I've just sort of like, I just don't know what else I would once. Yeah. You know, and you know, and anytime anyone says, I'm just sort of like, I just don't know what else I would once.

Yeah. And you know, and anytime anyone says, you know, well, not anytime, but a lot of times when they say, you know, CDIs come so far, for me, it's not necessarily with stunts and special effects, it's not necessarily a selling point, because, you know, I think stuff like John Carpenter's, know the thing like to me I don't want to see that remade with all the latest you know evolution of CDI like I love the way it was done to me it's oftentimes scarier you know but with that with point break I was like I don't know you know I just I love the original so much that I's some that wear them just like even if it's

Wonderful I still I'm still gonna be watching with my arms crossed so yeah Tactical effects and something like the thing like even now I watch it and like you know I know that there are effects but the the physical like not only they're scary But the physical nature of them makes me watch it and think, how did they do that? Those are still incredible and baffling. I mean, I don't want to get into a physical versus, like practical versus digital effects argument.

But the, oftentimes I think that the limitations can cause some interesting creative choices that like like jaws for instance. I was about to say like Bruce the Shark, yeah. Where you're like there's but this time you get to see a shitload of that cool S-sharp. But on the other hand I heard recently that Billy Crystal is finally going to remake Forget Paris taking advantage of CGI to really do what he couldn't do in the original and I can't wait to see how he takes advantage of it, you know.

Okay, guys, the four of us have been tasked. We have, we have just been hired to remake uninvited. What do we, who do we cast? What do we, what do we do? Well, are we going to change the story at all or using the same screened like because it seems like there's some script issues that we might have to do with before we get to casting? Maybe I mean, what more broadly drawn character types? I think bigger teeth for blue glue is carrot.

Is that in the script or is that part of the casting process? In, they're just scripted as Albert, Albert 50, a henchman with huge teeth, and clue glue glue was like calling his agent, I don't think I have big enough teeth in this role. Clue don't worry they'll figure it out they really want you to read for this part. Okay which how do I get across the big teeth clue you're the artist just figure it out. You know just you know like they just look at physical transformation maybe by the way you like hunch your back will like make your teeth look bigger.

It'll make your teeth more prominent. Okay, moving on to the next and final letter. Chris last name with held rights. Hey, peaches and a connection. I recently saw the taking of Pellum 123 and realized how much I loved the film's use of New York City's geography and and Infrastructure. Hey, wait, pause. I have an idea for this remake. What? The big difference is in, at the very end, when, you know, they've already punched the cat monster off the robot once. He climbs back up and he's like, they're like, oh no,

it's not over yet. Then the cat monster opens his mouth and there's a second cat monster inside his mouth. That's how you know it's not your dad. He's uninvited. Yep, extra cat monsters. It's cat monsters all the way down. I recently saw the taking of Palmy123, 1974, the writer clarifies the classic one, the

original. Yeah. Like the use of New York City's geography and infrastructure, I've often found films that really play with the city's geography, particularly engaging and exciting, including Jury Harry and San Francisco, albeit a problematic film, as he says, and Motherless Brooklyn with New York. Are there any movies you think are especially effective in the way they use the geography and space of their location? Thank you, Chris Lassen withheld. I will pander to our guest for a moment. I don't know in Widows whether it was in the screenplay or a directorial choice, but I found very striking the scene where they're driving from the under-privileged neighborhood to the much more privileged neighborhood where is it confereals character yeah lives and the camera remains outside of the car for the entire conversation you can see the neighborhood's change and I thought

that was a very striking choice that was made why thank, I think you. Yeah, no, I mean, I love, I live in Chicago and Steve wanting to film in Chicago. I just, for me, Chicago's just such a great. That's why, I mean, I think Widows came out right when I was trying to convince Amazon that we could film the utopia in Chicago. And I think, you know, it's, you know, it's, it's, it's, it's such a dirty Valentine's to Chicago, you know, the city has such strange and layered architecture. And, you know, it basically is a prairie town with skyscrapers. So the shadows and the light at certain times are just,

you can use them so well, and the different neighborhoods are so distinctive. Even movies like The Fuditive that you use Chicago and use it well are some of those little locations that they go to are, you know, it's like you would only find out building in Chicago. So it's why I always get so disappointed when you see a movie and it's like you would only find out building in Chicago. So it's why I always get so disappointed when you know you see a movie and it's like the skyline of Chicago and then the camera goes down. You're like that's Toronto. That's not Chicago.

Yep. They're eating hot dogs with poutine all over them and you're like, you're on this. And you're like, there should be celery salt on that. Not poutine. Yeah. Why aren't they eating pizza stew? routine all over him and you're like, you're on this. And you're like, there should be celery salt on that. Not on a routine. Yeah. Why aren't they eating pizza stew? What's going on? I also want to say, this is a,

I feel like a less seen movie than I would like. I really like Premium Rush. Elliot and I saw it when we were at a convention, talked it up and then one of our co-workers saw it and would not stop talking about how much he hated Premium Rush and how we thought we were at a convention, talked it up, and then one of our co-workers saw it, and would not stop talking about how much he hated freebieMrush, and how we thought we were idiots. But I love that movie. For weeks, he was mad, for recommending that movie too.

But what I liked about that movie was, look, it doesn't matter. I mean, movies are, they make up the geography all the time, but one of the fun things about it is how accurate that movie is about New York geography. For a movie that's all about getting from uptown to downtown, they are very careful about that. And it's part of the fun, I think.

I was gonna mention Premium Rush also. I know New York's geography much better than other places, just because I live there for so long. But also the way the Warriors uses New York. I remember like, they would show the Warriors on Monster Vision and Joe Bob Briggs would follow along with their journey on a map of New York subway system. It's show you they're at this point now,

they're at this point now. They really like, they did such a good job of really sticking the story to where they were going to be at any given point. But I'm sure there are other places where they do that too. Like I'm sure in, I don't know, maybe, if I knew Tokyo, I'd be like, oh yeah, go Jura really, really gets across the,

he goes start here and he goes here, you know. I know I'm a sucker for any kind of thriller that really takes advantage, like really establishes the geography of a space that they're using, whether it's something like on a smaller level, like panic room that's all in a, you know, brownstone, or something like tremors, where you're like, you gotta know exactly how far you gotta run, so you don't get gobbled up by one of those grabboids, you know? I love the, I'm a big fan of movies where they clearly, you know, got some sort of tax break incentive for acting as a tourist

sort of thing. I love brainstorm, the Christopher Walken Natalie Wood movie, which was filmed in Durham. They used so many, they're like me, me at the statue of so-and-so. That's in the beautiful park near, you know, and they're constantly meeting at these places where it's like, you know, you're meeting at like old ancient statues or at one point, Christopher Wacken writes his recumbent bike through town, so you're literally getting a incredibly long scene where he's riding through beautiful Durham.

I don't think I've ever seen that movie. I'm going to have to check it out. You know, so that I can prepare for a future trip to Durham. That's all you need. See what you got to see. You can finally achieve your dream of opening up the brainstorm tour of Durham, where you just take people around until all the sites from the movie. Yeah, I mean, well, my plan is to take at least one visit, pick out a location, find some nice real estate,

and then open up a bar that sells dark and brainstorm-y's. Oh, I mean, that is. Okay, well, we're in the home stretch now. We're going to do the final segment of our show, which is recommendations you know Watch uninvited a lot of fun, but also maybe check out one of these movies All kick us off. I went up state recently. It was the first time I left

Brooklyn since quarantine. Sorry, you recommended going out of vacation. I'm recommending getting the hell out. So my movie is The Hudson Valley. No, but so I went to a drive-in movie. It was great. It was the first theater experience that I've had since everything shut down. And yet again, I fell asleep for the later movie, but I watched the first movie,

which was Hocus Pocus, which I had not ever seen because I was a little too old for it, and I had no younger siblings. But, and also at the time, all the reviews were pretty bad, but then it became like sort of a cult favorite of millennials and I always assumed it was another space jam. I always assumed that it was not a good movie, a movie that like I would be like why do you like this? But I watched it and it's so much weirder than I thought it would be like all of the witches are so much fun. There is a joke involving all of the witches are so much fun. There is a joke involving a lobster

that just lasts for like, it's a very short joke, but it was so funny, I laughed so hard. I don't know, it's just like, if you've never seen it, it's, I think it's probably a different movie than you're assuming. It is a strange movie and also a movie that's unafraid to get dark for a's movie like it starts out with child murder so that's not for that

focus focus bucks starts out with child murder but I really enjoyed it so if you missed it focus focus Alex Stewart well what what am I going to recommend? No, no, Dan said Elliot. Oh, okay, I guess, I guess Elliot will go. You have, I don't know, I was going to talk about a movie that I was actually in. Is that fair? Is that loud?

I don't know. Is it a movie you like? Would you recommend it if you weren't in it? I think, I mean, it's tough because I can't really pull myself out of it, but I guess, I mean, I feel like I have to recommend it now that I've started talking about it. I think so. I think so. It is Shocktober, it's the perfect time for a movie that I assume is Horror-Re. Yeah, I'm going to recommend a movie that I am very briefly in.

I get like one line and some sound effects in a scene, a scene at the Galactic Council on the planet of GuyGax. The movie is called Psycho Gore Man, directed by a buddy of mine and friend of the podcast Stephen Kastanski. He directed the Void, Man Borg. He directed a short in one of the ABCs death uh... and it is a monster movie with a ton of big splattery monster effects uh... it is about uh... two kids who find a exiled alien overlord uh... who they name psycho gore man or pg for short uh... and because they have a lot of movies rated i assume i mean that's it's what it says it on the poster you'd have to look at the much

smaller letters to see the actual rating and i mean why would you look down there when you could be looking at the cool monsters on the poster the uh... so they find his amulet and they can take control of him and so despite the fact that he wants to destroy the university as to do the bidding of these children uh... and it's a lot of fun and it's gross and it's kind of like if it's kind of like a cross between suburban commando and and like a Power Rangers episode

that was also super gory. It's a lot of fun check it out. I think it's it's gonna be coming to streaming sometime next year to shutter right now you can see it at select movie festivals, Psycho Gourman. Exciting. Shall I go next? Okay, I'm going to recommend not exactly a horror movie, but a movie that is frightening and what it says about the way that power corrupts and politics inevitably, you know, goes bad. It's the movie, Danton, starring Gerard Dippardou from 1983.

This is directed by the Polish director Andre Wadja. I'm sure Miss Franconia's name, but it's a French language movie. And it's the story of Danton, the French revolutionary, and the end of his life as he was tried for a reason by the men that he once worked with. And eventually executed executed spoiler alert. That's what happened in real life. And it's a kind of a story about what happens when people who are in power become so attached

to their ideology that they say they're doing everything and believe they're doing everything for the good of the people, and either don't notice, or don't care to notice that what they're doing is crushing those people. And it felt very relevant in many ways to what's going on now, but it's also a movie with a lot of great performances. The guy who plays Robesby Air in it,

who is a Polish actor whose name I cannot remember is really fantastic in it. And it's just kind of a frightening movie about how a political system can get overtaken and twisted into a way that's ultimately terrible for everybody. One warning, there is a scene of a young boy in a bath, so if you don't want to see a young boy in a bath, I guess don't see the movie. I just don't want you to be thrown by it as I was.

The purpose of the scene is that he's being forced at all times to learn the new French legal code even when he is bathing, but it was just kind of weird to see an naked kid in a movie not realizing it would be there. So now I've warned you, and you can see it. And that's Anton. And Gellie, do you have a recommendation? I have one I watched just recently with my son, because I was about his age when I saw the movie theaters, cloak and dagger.

Oh yeah. It is, I didn't know, you know, I didn't know if it was gonna hold up or if I'd still like it, and we both had so much fun. It's young Henry Thomas from ET, and Dabney Coleman as his dad. And he basically the kid is his mom as best away. His dad is a workaholic and is always busy. And he has this character that he's

infatuated with who comes to life and is imagination. But you can see him. And he's also played by Dabney Coleman. And Henry Thomas ends up getting a hold of, like an Atari video game that actually contains top secrets and is therefore chased throughout San Antonio, which made me think of it because I was recently thinking of movies that used their settings well and they used San Antonio by any sorts of bad guys.

It's really fun. I had quite a delightful time watching that. And that's directed by Richard Franklin, who's one of my favorite exploitation directors from Australia. He's a very big hitchhock out, acolyte, he's a very like big like Hitchhawk out, Acolyte and Quicken Dagger is like kids Hitchcock, but he did psycho two and he did Link, a movie where an orangutan is in love with him.

Elizabeth Shoe and he did road games, which is like a rear window but with a truck, instead of an apartment. And I like them a lot Road games. I have to write that down road games. Yeah, road games. We're at Stacey Keach and Curtis. Yeah, say no more. I'm in Well or recommendations stored is only in one of them So she's that one first.

You know which one to prioritize. It was pretty fun when the credits rolled and I actually saw my name in the credits. I like got up and ran around the room like Homer Simpson. Hey, Shocktober's over but thank you so much, Gellian, for doing this. I gotta say, when you tweeted at the show, and I found out that you were a listener, like it made my month, but also terrified me that I was like, what are we gonna do to lose her? Like, what? How are we gonna...

Oh, have her on the show and just miss it through it, yeah. Everyone loves having writers on their shows. The often-demand writer person. But thank you. I enjoyed your work so much. So it was very exciting. Well, thank you for having me. It was as joyful and wonderful as I had hoped and thought it would be

Well Oh, thank you, and do you want I mean you should you want to do anything? Yes, I On I would love to thank you. I have on Amazon right now is a show that I I have on Amazon right now is a show that I Speak of Remakes since the remake of a beloved UK cult show called Utopia and I wrote and produced And was the showrunner, so I'm very proud of it. Yeah has Stars rain wilson and John Cusack. I want to say that my wife and I just finished the first season.

There's one season up. And we loved it. And I particularly want to point out like the pilot is so fucking good. Like I haven't been hooked by the first episode of a show like that in a long time. So it's great. Check out.

Thank you. And I want to thank you for coming on the show. So shortly after it premiered when I assume you're extremely busy. It's my pleasure. I always make time for my flop house. You get, seriously, you guys got me, you guys were my very first podcasts I ever listened to. Because I had not, you know, I'm a writer so I worked from home so I had not understood the whole podcastery and then all last year when we were filming and having these insane long road trips to different locations I would put on flop house and so it was great to be able to like start at the beginning with you guys and listen listen all the way through and my oh my husband wanted to thank you for he recently listened to your Hudson Hawk

episode and and finally he is on board because I listened to it a while before and it was like we should watch Hudson Hawking's like I don't think we should stop making me watch uninvited and Hudson Hawking and he is now fully on board so thank you guys for that we We'll probably watch it soon. Guys, I think I know why she likes the show. It's the first podcast she ever heard. She doesn't know there are much better shows out there. I mean, I feel like that's a large part

of our success, Dan, as we've just been doing a long time, and it totally is. Well, anyway, thank you to our guests. Thank you to Jordan Cowling for editing the show. Thank you to maximum fun for being our network. We appreciate all of you for the flop house. I've been Damakoy. I'm Stuart Wellington. Ellie Kaylin also saying goodbye and our guest. I'm Gillian Flynn happy October. Bye. Bye. Bye. She slips in her watermelons being thrown into pools, sound effects CD.

Yeah, she did apples being thrown into pools and we're like, not loud enough.