The Flop House - Ep. #328 - Happy Halloween, Scooby Doo!, with Justin McElroy

Episode Date: November 21, 2020

Greeting boils and ghouls and gender non-kill-forming! For the spooookiest holiday of the year, Thanksgiving, we discuss the very appropriate Happy Halloween, Scooby Doo! Why? Well, we ask our guest, the hilarious absolute sweetheart, Justin McElroy, that very question -- you may know him as one of the hosts of Max Fun's own My Brother My Brother and Me, The Adventure Zone, Sawbones, and many other podcasts you should probably be listening to instead of our nonsense. See all that he's up to at the McElroy family site.Scoobypedia synopsis of Happy Halloween, Scooby Doo.Movies recommended in this episode:The StupidsPossessorCinderella LibertyThe VelociPastor

On this episode we discuss Happy Halloween Scooby-Doo! That's right, it's our special annual Thanksgiving Halloween episode! Hey everyone, welcome to the flop house, I'm Dan McCoy. I'm Stuart Wellington, you shocked over freaks. Okay, no, no, I think I think I the year under a misapprehension of what time of the year it is. Wait, what's the movie we watched? The name was Happy Halloween School Me Do. I'm Ellie Kaelin. This is actually November this episode.

And joining us this time is podcaster, author, YouTuber, journalist uh... woodwork voice voice actor number one sheets customer just in the mac a rory what an honor i i am such a fan of you guys you you guys have got me through some real tough spells of mental health just uh... turning through your at shows i can't believe i'm here can't believe i made it looks I can't believe I've made it. Looks like I've really finally made it. You're right.

Looks like you made it. Look how far you've come on. I like you pretending that you're not doing a favor for us. No, that was a joke. I love this show. Oh, okay. No, this is a bit Danda's where he offends the guest immediately. He's like, why do you like the show, idiot? It's a great... He asked immediately. He's like, why do you like the show, idiot?

It's a great. Hey, dickface, why do you like our show so much stupid? I know he likes the show. It is very nice of him to come. You can enjoy a favor. If you help a friend move, but all their furniture is really squishy and fun. It turns out, I actually have been enjoying this. This is not heavy.

It's fun to play with. That's usually what I ask my friends when I agree to help them move. Is the squishyness of their furniture? I have two questions. I say, what is the furniture squishy and two? Is it like just soft or is it moist? Because I'd rather not carry the moist. And add them.

I can really walk this factory. So my hands are going to be really sticky at the end of it. Oh, really? Because the friends must have hated so much when they had to help him move and they're like, just use the umpilupas. And he's like, they're not slaves, they work for me. I can't just use them for my personal moving. Yeah, and they're like, why are you moving out in the August of all months?

All your candy furniture is gonna melt in the truck. Why are you moving now? Well, this does bring up a key problem with the factory, is that that room that's all just candy must, you know, just attract a tremendous amount of lint, like small dead insects or light insects stuck to the candy. Yeah, he doesn't brace Charlie for it. And did you ever hear what happened to the man

who got everything you ever wanted? What? For six months, he was really worked up about flies. Six months of the year, he just flies, flies, flies, flies. It is a big problem. You will not enjoy that time. Close it up. Go to a Ruba. You will not like that.

And he goes, Charlie, I know what you're thinking. You just packaged that candy with flies on it and call it Wankerbar Buggoms. It does not work. I tried it. Nobody wanted Buggoms. The candy with flies on it and call it Wankerbar Buggams. It does not work. I tried it. Nobody wanted Buggams. The candy with real bugs attached to it. It just didn't work. Don't you think?

The Willie Wanker Company missed a trick by not selling chocolate bars called a little bit of a goose. And they're just a little bit of a goose to slupe. But everyone just a little bit of particulate. It's gone glopies. Yeah. Glopies. I mean, you got to believe that he's well marbled and delicious.

That's a very common. It's a very common. We're really showing our Western privilege and that we're making fun of the fact that people could be eating chocolate bars with insects or Augustus glupes in them. And I think that's pretty fucked up. In many parts of the world, Augustus glupes

is a primary source of protein. I think we need to be a fast stop. Yeah. Okay, well, let me explain the premise of the show to anyone checking in for the first time and thinking, oh, my favorite is Justin. You'll be disappointed next time. But maybe the show. Maybe the door open.

This is a show where we watch a bad movie and then talk about it. That's our, that's our MO. But Justin, who knows what he thinks of this movie? He picked it. Now Justin, I wanted to ask before we got into talking about the movie, what, what was it about this film that made you want to talk about it with us? Yeah, when I texted Justin, I was like, yeah, you can pick any movie in the world. And like, even before I was done sending the text message, I get the response.

Happy Halloween Scooby Doo. Well, I was watching it at the time of you texting me. I was watching it at the time of you texting me. But, but it was the third time I'd watched it with my children. And my ratio is this one. I thought I'd try to do Elliot a solid and have a movie that you could watch in this children. Oh, thank you, I appreciate that. Yeah. Secondly, and I hope that the logic of this has been born out

and now that you guys have watched it and wasn't just sort of won off, because I watched it again today It's a bizarre flick Almost every choice in this movie is So strange and it almost starts to feel like You know those That one very funny Twitter

that one very funny Twitter writer who was doing the AI, like an AI generated script for an Olive Garden commercial. It feels like someone put every Scooby-Doo into a machine and then let the machine generate a script for a Scooby-Doo movie. Yeah. Yeah, like it was trained so I understand. That's understanding it a bit. Because I think it's trained so I understand. That's underselling it a bit. Because I think it's also very, it's surprisingly effective

in what it attempts to do. But what it attempts to do is weirdly ambitious. I feel like for a movie of this stripe, and like, you don't expect Happy Halloween Scooby-Doo to be a message movie, but it definitely, definitely is. And there's a surprising amount of world building in this Happy Halloween Scooby-Doo movie. And it's a borrowing just yes and we're and and crossover building now yeah and it's also kind of a Mad Max fury road which you don't expect.

Yeah yeah yeah yeah what I didn't expect road game Scooby-Doo which kind of becomes it's a world building we are introduced right away to Crystal Cove. Wait, Stuart, actually, I hate to interrupt. I just wanna say, it is fitting that we watched this Halloween movie in November. Why? In honor of Joe Ruby and Ken Spears, the creators of Scooby Doo, who both died this year,

Ken Spears just died about a week and a half ago. So it is in his honor that we are now going to, I guess, tear apart this movie that used his characters. He didn't write it, but, you know, yeah. But, uh, Justin is making a face of the idea of the review test. You guys tear apart all you want. I'll be there picking up the pieces

and carrying them with my shoulders back covered to the wherever we're going. This is when, when happy Halloween school be these, so just one set of footprints that was you, Karen. Yeah. So yeah, the movie opens up in Crystal Cove, a town built on a large, uh, large natural crystal deposit as we'll learn later. It's Halloween. There's a Halloween parade and Elvira is the is on the main float.

You make it 10 seconds in before you are to one of the wilder picks the movie. Y'all, this is a children's movie. Yeah. none of them know who Elvira no single child Will know who Elvira it's bizarre as a Scooby-Doo character It's bizarre that when I was a kid I knew who Elvira was since her main thing was being like making death jokes and having boobs and yet somehow This was a character I was aware of as a kid, but no kid now is gonna know who Elvira the mr. So And because this is a I should because this is a movie but no kid now is gonna know who Elvira the mistress of the game. And because this is a I assume because this is a movie for children they largely take away

the boobs. So just write that down in the notes. Yeah, Dan's man that they de-sexified Elvira and Bill Nye. Well, that's what Dan didn't think Elvira's boobs were big enough. That's his big note to warners on this one. Warner's animation. I have one general note. This is a world note Just for the whole for the whole movie Elvira is known for her cleavage and yet I

Didn't see and that within that note comes a secondary note in the scene where Daphne and Elvira switch clothes. We don't see that process process taking place It seems like a wasted opportunity for me. Debian art scholar Dan McCoy place. It seems like a wasted opportunity for me. Debian art scholar, Dan McCoy. I'm going to start out in an actual box office for sure. In your own words, Elliot, that is one of Elvira's main things that has been moved. I'm not saying it should be in the movie, but like even in her movie, which the name I forgot.

Elvira, Mr. Sotheby. Elvira, Mr. Sotheby. The end. I'll continue to remember that name for the movie. She wins over many of the townspeople by doing a burlesque routine where her boobs spin her tassels around like like Elvira knows that that is a key component to her her whole thing. And yeah, it is just wild that she's in this movie. Wild. Yeah, she's great. So she's the grand marshal and she's on the main float. The scuba do gang what mystery incorporated is their name are already undercover in costume, which

is interesting for later. Trying to, you know, they think there's going to be a monster attack or they're trying to prove monsters aren't real. Just about then the bomb me shop explodes and a hobgoblin pumpkin headed character comes flying out and starts throwing pumpkin bombs and stuff uh, and I know what you're thinking you're like wait a minute is scubi do crossing over with marvel comics and their jack o'lantern villain yeah, not wrong comics universe friends as you're about to find out or I mean does it the green goblin throw pumpkin bombs? Yeah, but he doesn't have a jack o'lantern on his head but jack o'lantern uses a lot of green goblin's old stuff. Green goblin left a lot of his weapons all over New York because one, he's a pack rat and two, just in case I guess he was in the name

and he needed to switch costumes. And so, Hav Goblin, jackal lantern, Dima Goblin, they're all always borrowing green goblin's old stuff, you know. Okay, well, it's scarecrow. Yeah, scarecrow. And gobblin city. After scarecrow. And, scarecrow. Yeah, and got them city. After it's scarecrow and you watch that and you think, when I first watched this, I thought, oh, is a Batman crossover? Nope. Yeah.

It's just scarecrow. Just scarecrow. I watch this, you know, he's like, I don't just want to be a Batman guy. I want to be a little bit of everything. 90% of the time I'm watching the movie with Audrey and 90% of the time she loses interest almost immediately, but she was on her edge of her seat for this one

because she's a big Scooby-Doo fan from Wayback. She actually convinced me to watch Scoob a while back, but she said, oh, it's the scarecrow, and I thought she was just joking for a while because I missed the fact that she's gonna be like, oh, I forgot them, but no, it's actually, yeah. Actually Dr. Crane, not Frazier Crane, but what if we'd admit it, hold on, what if Frazier Crane was the Scarecrow's brother?

Hold on a second. There's a third Crane brother. He's not in Seattle, he's in Gotham, and he's the Scarecrow. I got to see it happen. Okay. So he's about to attack him with a bunch of drones and then Fred uses a phone app that is not a trap to turn them off and then they shoot him with a crossbow. Now, here's the thing I like about this right off the bat is now I have to assume that Batman and Scooby-Doo coexist in the same universe, which I love because I've been having some

real issues with Batman lately as I come to realize that he is essentially a character who uses violence to solve a mental illness problem. And that his entire series is a long-running argument against empathy for anyone who commits a crime and in favor of just throwing them into an easily-escapable asylum. But if Scooby-Doo exists in that world, then all bets are off. You know what? Maybe Batman's the right way to handle, because this world is nuts. You know what? Maybe Batman's the right way to handle because this world is nuts. If there's just a talking dog who's also a pothead who solves mysteries with centines, who don't have families, then like, okay, sure, maybe Batman makes sense. So there's a couple of turnarounds. It looks like Scarcro's Deadman Switch has been launched a huge new batch of drones. And then Shaggy picks up Scooby and uses him like an

anti-aircraft gun. And he spits candy that is still fully wrapped out of his mouth and shoots down all of the drones. Yeah, they were terrified. They locked the doors to the mystery van, not allowing the machines to get back in. And yeah, they've just been swallowing a bunch of fully wrapped candy for the last, for the credit sequence.

Easier to animate. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Now, here's a, I wanted to bring up. So as always, it looks like, as always, the Scooby-Doo. It looks like it's a supernatural thing. It's some guy with pumpkin powers.

No, it's just drones and stuff. Were you guys as kids ever as disappointed as I was that every episode of Scooby-Doo ended with the reassuring message that monsters and ghosts don't exist, and it's just old men who don't want people to go to their amusement parks for some reason. Well, I mean, Scoob breaks with that traditional tradition. There is actual supernatural stuff going on.

And it's my understanding that some of the more recent Scooby-Doo versions have had actual supernatural stuff going on. I'm not fully up on Scooby Doo's modern continuity, which is why one of the characters in this really threw me off when it turned out he was a continuing character. I mean, I understand, like Scooby Doo in general, I understand having affection for it

in the way that I understand having affection for any old garbage from your childhood. But let's stipulate that the original cartoons were not very good. I mean, they've done, I think they have done some better versions of it over the years, so I hear. But, you know, I don't, like, it is wild to some degree that this has, you know, Scooby Doo has been in syndication from the 1980s.

He's the, he's the, he's the, he's the longest running television cartoon character that there is, like his, his show has been on the air in some form or another, without with few breaks since the early 70s, late 60s. And like considering his main, when I think about him, his main thing that I can think of is like this kind of shit brown color palette. That is hideously on appealing.

There's no, there's nothing visually appealing about the show. And also that every episode ends with them being like, uh oh, a monster, psych, kids, there's no magic in the world. It's just an old man and a mask. But this one really turned around for me partly because it's a very colorful show. There's a much prettier-looking version. I was actually going to say I feel like the animation was a little bit like herky-jurky and not particularly appealing to me, but then I don't watch a lot of animation for kids.

How about you, Daddy's out there. I would say middle of the pack. I mean, it's serviceable. It's certainly better than a lot of the animation you see on television is a lot fewer frames of much less animation. Yes, yeah. Perch Square and all that. I would say that, like for me, like the limited-cell animation was, like the animation itself Yes, yeah, yeah, per square inch of that. I would say that, like for me, like,

the limited cell animation was like the animation itself was not good, but I liked the like the brightness of the designs. Okay, so they, you know, they've saved the day, they started to celebrate the the cop show up to take scarecrow away. Velma has some verbal sparring with the scarecrow and he gives them a mysterious threat. Daphne uses a whole bunch of outdated slang and it's not behaving like she's drunk on white wine spritzers.

I found that whole sequence surprisingly funny, but at the same time, I was like, who is Daphne supposed to be here? Like, what is her personality? Daphne is, here's what I like about this, this, what I really like, other than this fact, well, I'll talk about a lot of things. I like one of the things I enjoy about this film, is that I feel like, one of the things that just put me off of Scooby Doo to this point,

is that I feel like Scooby Doo has been meta at this point longer than it has been Scooby Doo, right? Almost all of our Scooby Doo media is like a running gag about how she, you know, like a Brady Bunch movie style, like sort of it's usually writing this line between parody and earnestness. And I feel like this movie really doesn't lean as, it's funny of its own creation, right? What it does is it makes choices for each of these characters that is not necessarily referencing Scooby Doo from 40 years ago,

but it's rather like it's making choices that let them be funny. So in this one, Daphne is very strength. I mean, Daphne is the oddball of the group. And Fred is funny, not because he's referencing what a, you know, lovable, uh, doofus. Yeah, but like he's funny for other reasons because he is his own character that is not a meta commentary on Fred of your.

He'll say I agree that like when we were watching this, we're like, oh, Daphne gets to be funny in this because usually Daphne I think it's the biggest blank in it. They're just like okay Like well she and Fred both. They're just like okay. These are like are pretty leaders But I don't really know who they are. Yeah, and she's she's What like effective like she has skills that is the physical one I guess Fred too can make traps in these apps. So that was the thing Fred kept talking about traps

and I was like, was that always his thing? Did I forget that Fred's thing was traps? Because I thought his thing was just being like the guy who could walk into a normal like establishment situation and have like some kind of face that is trusted as opposed to Shaggy who is clearly a dropout from society.

I think Fred was just kind of like the guy who would go and be like they can trust me. I'm wearing an mascot. It's okay. No, it is definitely one of those things where it's like a back to the future two situation where it's like wait, was Marty's thing before that he doesn't like being called a chicken because I don't remember that. Now he had, Fred has one of the best, one of my favorite Fred lines.

He says, I want to do what I do best. I'm going to do traps. So they decided to celebrate by going trick or treating. They talk about how they don't have costumes, which is weird, because Fred is wearing like a half skeleton costume. I mean, he's wearing the costume from Karate Kid that those kids were wearing on Halloween. He could just a half skeleton costume. I mean, he's wearing the costume from karate kid that those kids were wearing on Halloween. He could just wear that skeleton costume.

So Shaggy and Scooby of course, chew mouthfuls of candy, and then spit it all over themselves and cover themselves with extra candy and become spilled Halloween candies, their costume. It's wild. And then they have a trick or treating in dancing montage to an original song I'm assuming, Creative Critics movie. There's a few times in the movie where I think it's about to become a musical and then it doesn't quite become a musical. Like they

faint at it and the characters sing a little bit and then it just kind of goes away and you're like oh okay I kind of thought you'd do like a whole number here but they then find a wrecked drone and a wrecked toxic waste truck and the two things combined to smear their juice all over a local pumpkin patch, which turns the pumpkins and do monsters, which are here to for known as jackal lanterns. Now, why do you think they call them jackal lanterns? They're not scavengers, you know, like jackal. They don't have anything like jackals. Think it sounds like jackal lantern. Oh, oh,

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oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, in the end. Well, actually, they kind of do later on, but are they like munchies? I don't really remember what the munchies used to do. Well, they look up women's dresses. It's just a post. Based on the VHS post. Yeah, and what about transfers? Were transfers like this?

Oh, man, transfers are completely different. Involves jumping to different dimensions. Jack Deff is involved. It's great. So the rest of the game, and what about bad news bears? Are those the three kinds? They're just kind of racist in that 1970s way.

Oh, OK, OK. And what about what about little big things? So while Shaggy and Scooby are watching... watching the jackal lanterns uh... origin story the rest of the team meets the local sheriff who threatens them and uh... yeah makes and then takes away the scarecrow obviously for a case for defund uh... they meet uh... locals uh... uh... store i don't know if any if any if any criminal seems to be in an imminent danger that should be locked up at the

moment, it seems to be the scarecrow. Yeah, I mean, I'm not talking about the way they're handling the scarecrow. I'm just talking about the general share of overreach and his ways interacting with these helpful teenagers. Okay, okay. So we meet a local father and daughter team Mike and Michelle. Mike thinks that's also known as a family father to our team. They uh they think they've resaved it down and offered to buy y'all a caramel corn later on. Well,

we'll see if that ever happens. Uh the gang. So you're your positive that sort of a check oves caramel corn purchase offer. Yeah. If you if you promise the purchase of a Carmel corn in act one by act three, we better see that Carmel corn get purchased. Chegans, Scooby show up. They try and warn the local reporters who are very excited about the saving of the town that the town is in fact not safe. There are a bunch of Chapel entrance on their way. Nobody believes them because they're covered in candy and there's an owl stuck on his butt. because they're covered in candy and there's an owl stuck on his butt. Daphne then sings a original song that is very kind of

stream of consciousness, LA, Kaelin quality. Well, I had let me read you from my notes. Let me read you from my notes. Daphne sings a real Elliot style song. So I appreciated that part. Yeah, that was great. I felt like I feel like I felt seen by happy Halloween Scooby- scuba do now we have our next celebrity cameo bill nyshows up and he organises an air drop for the team to receive a new fancy mystery machine now again again i think this is a strange thing because at one point

bill nysh was sort of a figure for children but but at this point in history i think he's mostly known for like appearing on cnn sort of like throwing his hands. But at this point in history, I think he's mostly known for like appearing on CNN and sort of like throwing his hands up at the fact that no one believes in science anymore. But that is that of what is fascinating about it is that that is what if this movie is about anything. Yeah. That is what this movie is about. It's about volumous struggling with the limits of science and belief. And then where those two intertwined and the overlap of fear and science and belief.

Yeah. And that's why I didn't realize the perfect guy. I wish they didn't be sexifying so much because, you know. I mean, he does, you do see him as a sexy cat at one point. He is a sexy cat at one point. Yeah, yeah. But a sexy, a stand point he is a sexy cat uh... but i think he's animal uh... so uh... the new mister machine is like a cool uh... automated

uh... like robo car that has a lot of so you're you're issue with their handling of bill nye is similar to dance handling the issue of alvira and character who is just radiating sexuality and is known for that has been neutered for a child audience. Bill and I largely appear in the movie as the a hologram in their car. Yeah.

And you think it's an a, a Bill and I AI, but it's not that because he's interrupted by trick or treaters. One of them is dressed like Aquaman who he then complains about the, the unbelievable ability of the Aquaman character which means it's real it's real Bill nice so Bill and I just sitting there as a hologram in the van yeah he's just I mean he's just

called for it he's just twitch live streaming direct to their van via hologram and here's the thing we live in a world where now in this show where square crow is, meaning Batman is real. Aquaman, Bill and I has a lot of issues with how Aquaman could exist, which implies either one Aquaman is not real in this strange DC Hanover Barrier Hybrid. Or two, Bill and I is always writing letters to the not-local newspaper saying Aquaman is a hoax and I can prove it.

The science doesn't make sense. Here's my seven minute YouTube video on how Aquaman is not real. Fake news, fake news, Aquaman is a hoax and I can prove it. The science doesn't make sense. Here's my seven minute YouTube video on how Aquaman's not real fake news, fake news, Aquaman. And I just don't want to believe that Bill Nies is harassing Aquaman that way. I also think that Justin brings up a good point, which is like, like the fact that he is not an AI and he's built this for the mystery incorporated teams, like, is he committing himself to always sitting there in that chair? Like helping them and being like their kid, you know, I mean, you know depends like There's times in our life where we just kind of want to hang out and like really enjoy our long distance connections

As opposed to the people that are nearest that maybe know us too well that sometimes it's better to work on a relationship where there's a little bit of extra distance. So people with a bunch of teens in a van. Yeah, I mean, that's totally normal, right? I mean, would it be weird? It would be weird if Bill and I was just roaming the country with a bunch of teens in a van solving mysteries, right? Like, that would be more questionable. Maybe that's it.

He's like, he knows that there needs to be distance if he wants to help them out. Well, and he and also he and Daphne used to date and he knows it would be weird. Weird area. If you don't have. So, excuse me and Shaggy get tired of hitting a jack of lantern. And so Shaggy sets on it and that turns into a monster pumpkin and bites him on the butt. And he says, look, I've got a pumpkin butt. That was cool. The reporters and various people are being attacked by the Jackal lanterns.

A Jewish coded reporter gets eaten by a giant Jackal lantern and then gets turned into a Jackal lantern. The ground starts to be torn apart, driven by earthquakes. Shaggy and Scooby jump into station wagon with Mike and Michelle. Daphne manages to convince Elvira to take her on as a protégé and Fred and Velma drive away in the new mystery machine X. And now it's a driving movie. Yeah, I'd like the rest of it. It's a good one, long time. You keep remembering like, wait, this car chase is still going on.

It is the furry road of school. You do move the kids' wild. They have whole conversations with one another from one vehicle to another. I honestly like, now just the beginning of the movie zipped along a lot more for me, honestly, than this long car chase, because at a certain point, like, oh, you mean the 45 minutes of them driving?

Didn't zip along the way you expect to insert a. And I'm like, get out of the car. Yeah. It's like they didn't write any more movies. So they're all driving very slowly to the end of the movie. I, there's part of me that I imagine them just the movie ending with them driving off into the sunset forever chased by these Jackal lanterns never getting out of their cars. Yeah, it's funny.

You should mention that because the Jackal lanterns are hot on their tail with their own custom hot rods that I think are built out of the parade floats. I can't quite tell. Yeah, yeah. I look like that. It's a real monster garage special edition where they just like, they took the like take these floats and turn them into cool monster trucks. And they're like, yeah, we can do that. Woohoo! The customer was a bunch of jackal lanterns,

but we decided we were still gonna do as good a job as we can. Hey, we need this part. Well, oh, we have to get that from Japan. A jackal lanterns, this is gonna take a while, but we kinda are chasing these teens. Okay, we'll do as best as we can. We only have a lot of time.

So the monster garage guys had to get on it. Sure, sure, sure. Those are the tools. Ali, this shows a greater familiarity with Monster Garage than I would have expected out of you. I used to watch a lot of Monster Garage. Monster House was never as much into because there's something about having a crazy themed car

that I can understand, but when you theme your house around something, it really, like, you're not gonna wanna live inside of a dinosaur cave every day. And that's coming from me, a guy who wishes he could live in a dinosaur cave like three days out of the week. But there was a there was a monster house where it was like the baby's coming. And we decided to make his room underwater themed.

So there's sharks everywhere and fish and I was like, oh, I hope this kid likes underwater stuff because this is going to be a bad room. If he doesn't like it. Yeah. stuff because this is going to be a bad room. He doesn't like it. Yeah, I did that with my daughter, my first daughter, we made her room space themed. And almost as soon as she could talk, she informed me how much she hated the space theme. And how much she wished it was princesses. And so I had to have this sad montage of me like taking the rocket ships down off the wall and piling my arms the stupid doctor who clock just how long the the the the starry curtain straight in the trash

Take that with a little scraper like scraping the stars off the ceiling Yeah, wow I did exactly that the stars off the ceiling. Yeah, wow, I did exactly that. Can we take a brief diversion to just check in on Matthew Lillard real quick? I want to talk about Matthew Lillard. And this is celebratory. I'm not ragging on him whatsoever because I'm envious in a way. 2002, Matthew Lillard plays the role of Shaggy Rogers in the movie Scooby-Doo.

And then Matthew Litterl is like, you know what, this is good for me. I'm just gonna stay here if that's all right. And everybody can go about their business. I'm just gonna chill here. Except we're appearing in Twin Peaks the Return, pretty fully. I'm gonna dip in on David Lynch's return to television.

And then I'm just gonna, he's done other stuff. Yeah, he's done other stuff. Yeah, he's done other stuff, but the fact that he just like, even the last movie had Will Forte as Shaggy, and they were like, certainly Matthew's not gonna come back after that. He's like, no, it's fine. I'll just come and head back. And there was a big, like, we're not big, but like, big for Scooby Doo, internet controversy,

where they're all like, everyone's like, why are they getting Will Forte, you know, but like big for Scooby-Doo internet controversy where they're all like everyone's like why are they getting will forte? You know like Matthew Lillard has been playing this part since Putting in the work. I mean, yeah, he's great and like Kate McEuchy is is so she's so good as Velma It's weird that she hasn't always been Velma. It's like it's that. Yeah, that's sort of perfect But I just think it's fascinating Matthew Lillard's, that is good, I'll just keep doing it. It's pretty easy and I get money for it and it's fun to keep being this guy.

And I don't think we have a lot, like unless you wanna look like a Brett Eyewater, or you know one of the Mickey lineage, like you don't have this level of interconnectedness between a character and a voice actor that goes on for years and years and years and years and years and years. It's wild. That's always, whenever they would have a guest star

on the Simpsons, then that character would become like a fairly regular or recurring character. Like I imagine, I always imagine, I think it's weird that Joe Montana still goes in. And they're like Yeah, yeah fat Tony's in this episode. Can you come in record three lines? Yeah sure, okay. Yeah, why not okay? But uh this the I always thought that we're that Casey Kason did

Yeah, and I always thought it was weird that Casey Kason had like a head his own big career But he was still for years The same thing coming into Shaggy and Is it just maybe really great to be Shaggy? It's like so to enjoy from Connection this might be this might be a crazy question, but Why wasn't Casey Kassam in the live action movie a Shaggy? Well, I mean one by that point he was either a very old man or dead. I can't remember

when the action at the live part would have been challenging. Let's take a look at Casey Casey Casey and see how how alive he was when that movie came out. Let's see. He was part of you didn't judge me. He was alive. ask. Okay, so you did ask if it was crazy ahead of time. So that's true. So he voiced Norville Shaggy Rogers from 1969 to 1997. Then again, from 2002 to 2009, it says, so in 2002, he was 70 years old. So it might have been a little strange if it was like these young people playing the rest of the characters and then a 70 year old man like I Like and if anything what's weird about it is that

Shaggy is so so clearly a takeoff of manorgy crebs from the Dobie Gillis show because they're basically the Dobie Gillis characters Why didn't they just get Bob Denver to do it? I don't know look? I'm not Hannah or Barbara. I can't answer these but. I mean, the answer is probably that Bob Devar wanted to do much money, but I don't know. We'll have to go into the until I guess an oral history somewhere to find out. It's also worth noting that case case and did voice Shaggy Rogers in the year of his death, 2014. Yeah. So that was a 72 That was a 72, good judging from Wikipedia here. No, sorry. 82 year old man.

Yeah. We'll be seeing local teen. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Directors are like, okay, Casey, just remember you're a teenager. Yeah.

You know the character, this is what teenagers care about. Is that the Charleston? I always kind of assume Shaggy was a little bit older than a teenager at this point. I mean, they're all supposed to be teens. Here's something that Wikipedia says, and I wonder if it's true, that Casey Kason was at first uncomfortable about being assigned to Shaggy. As he had never before portrayed a hippie character, he wanted to play Fred and Frank Wilker, who of course has played Fred for the entirety, I think of the run, wanted to play Shaggy, but instead CBS assigned them the other way.

It's just like that old story about how originally Christopher Walken was going to play Han Solo and Betty Davis was going to play Princess Leia. And they decided at the last minute that they did not want Christopher Walken to play it or an elderly woman to play Princess Leia. And they decided at the last minute that they did not want, Christopher Walken to play it, were an elderly woman to play Princess Leia. And originally, Chewbacca was going to be played by the late Clark Gable. It's just amazing we hear about who was going to play these roles.

Yeah. OK. So back to the chase. Daffy's a blowtorch to cut the parade float loose from the back of Elvira's car, which then runs into all the Jack of Lantern's hot rods, which explode like into all the jack-of-lanterns hot rods, which explode like Madman's Fury Road, so they get a little bit of breathing space. You know, they're still on their tail, but they got a little bit of room to breathe.

Not as much room as in the movie The Chase, where Charlie Sheening, Chrissy Swanson, had a sexy, and while being chased by the cops, that's crazy. So they argue about being scared whether or not it's logical or not. This is when Velma starts talking about mind palaces and it's like of course it's 2020. If you have a smart character in your property, they have to talk about memory palaces where they have to be able to play fucking chess on the ceiling. I don't believe it. I got to know they've got to be like all fun and slow motion. We just started we just started watching that show. And we just watched the episode where she tears the,

the canopy of her bed because chess doesn't work on a bed canopy. It only works on a ceiling. Yeah. Yeah. Oh man. I haven't, I haven't finished Queen's game yet. Does she play Lionel Richie who of course has the strength of being able to sit on the ceiling? Uh huh.

Well playing. Like the nutty thing is like, I haven't watched that movie and I just accepted that as like Stuart's crazy joke about a thing that's where people do. Yeah. Yeah. I got across over a field. Okay.

So they speed up, they catch up to the sheriff and the paddy wagon that is carrying the scarecrow. It's quite a large van to be honest with you. Uh, the ship is. And it looks even bigger on the inside. Once they get inside, it's like they're inside an office building. Yeah, there's so much room in there. The share of them gets overtaken by Jack O'Landerns. And then, Oh, we skip my favorite share of die.

My mistake. Explain, please. No, please, Fred, Fred and the sheriff. And I told you, you're like yelling out the window, right? Yeah, they're yelling out the window, right? Yeah, they're yelling at the window to each other and the sheriff said that the kids should go back because even though it gives them a hard time, they're pretty much the closest thing to family he's got. Friends and we've talked eight or ten times. Yeah, that's great. Oh man, that's great. Yeah, the sheriff is definitely the at this point is still a wild card.

Was there a previous move because they keep referencing a previous movie that he was in? Apparently, the sheriff was in a couple of previous Scooby-Doo movies. So they've been setting this up for a while. Yeah, well, this is a long time. So this is, is this character was seen in Curse of the 13th Ghost and returned to zombie island. Setting up the appearance here. Now my question, you've been to zombie island once. You know there's zombies on it. Why are you returning to zombie island? I mean, that's the question that the title raises that right? That's why I'm gonna see it. You'll

lost a zombie island. I lost a ring on zombie island. We got to go back. So the pumpkins take over some construction equipment. That's not going to be good. They then start interviewing the scarecrow. Somehow Scooby and Shaggy do. They take their Scooby Snacks and then they flip over some things and land in the Paddy Wagon with Velma.

Bill Nye gets distracted by the trigger treaters, as we mentioned, and the mystery machine starts misbehaving. Go on, Dave. I do. Well, you know, Scooby Snacks, obviously a big part of Scooby-Doo lore. Why are they, like, there's a product out there that's named after this dog. Is that what the, we are to believe? Or because it is a dog's name for the product.

Well, maybe Scooby is a brand of dog in this world. Not a brand, a breed of dog. Like, maybe a Scooby is a kind of dog. Yeah, or brand. I mean, dogs are all working on their brands these days. You know, they're all entrepreneurs. But it does seem, it is a kind of. Yeah, or brand. I mean dogs are all working on their brands these days, you know, they're all entrepreneurs, but it does seem it is a package product. It's not something they make. Like, but maybe they named him after it, you know, like a dog. That's what Scoob suggests, right?

I think is that he was named after the snack. Okay. Yeah. Okay. You guys think, okay, real quick. Quick, just don't even think about it. Sure. Sweet or savory. I Think savory. Yeah. Yeah. I think I don't know I don't know the one thing made for kids are like graham cracker type things, but kids aren't gonna You know, it takes like chicken and biscuit that kids are going. Yeah, no, they need sugar They like that yeah kids love anything sweet and they hate anything not sweet if my kids kids, my children who like to eat literally spoonfuls of sugar, like they're taking medicine from Mary Poppins, like. It's like, it's like, it's coming to the bar. I'm always like, hey, that cocktail they ordered,

put another score to simple syrup. And I gotta say, put some complex syrup in that. It's gotta be real sweet. When I, I've been going the other way, when I was a kid, I only like sort of like salty things. And I got, I got a, I got a sweet tooth as I grew older, which explains my expanding whistling, I think, but.

I was gonna say, that's a bad time. That's when we're all lease biologics. Exactly. People love dealing with sweet teeth. That's when you want your savory teeth to grow in. Now, I always assumed Scooby Doo was named after Scooby Doo. So your team is my least favorite Twisted Metal character. I always thought he was named after Scooby-Doo by the Bruce J. Friedman off Broadway play,

but maybe that's not it. Maybe that's not the case. But let's say for the purposes of this moment of us time at this show, that he exists in a world where there is a famous snack called scooby snacks scooby Do as a puppy loved them and so that he they named him scooby do because a dog's body when you think about it in that case Is a machine for turning scooby into do and that's where the name comes from everybody steward what's going on in that car chase Okay, so at this point, Dalmasheggy and sc are inside the armor truck and they're interrogating the scarecrow. Then the construction equipment starts to tear apart that paddy wagon. Scarecrow suggests that there may be a different feeling that he's not behind all these pumpkins.

Fred saves Mike and Michelle using the mystery machine's long arms and then it runs out of electric power probably because of all that shit. Goma tries to save the scarecrow from the jackal lanterns, but I have to fight a bunch of them, and then scarecrow puts on his suit and he does all kinds of fucking badass flips, he pulls out a side. Does he do that stuff in the comics? I mean, I always, I don't, to be honest, whenever I've seen a scarecrow comic, he just uses fear gas to make people fall on the ground, and then he wins away or steals the I don't think of him as a as a badass fighter but everybody in this show is they're all I

mean I'll have moves this is the useful thing that that like where where Velma has released him like he is he is effective in like helping them fight like but they set it up like oh Velma like I gotta go like get some clues from him and they have this scene that is kind of like you know Clarice visiting Hamble Lecter. Another thing that kids. It's very much so much fun. It's the reference that the kids are looking for too. Well because she also does walk past Zaz and his cell and he throws a cup full of

comat or just like in South of Atlanta. But like Zaz, it would be the third weirdest thing in this movie. In fact, it happened. But I don't think she actually gets any clues from like talking to him. Like she already knew that he said that there was some other person in charge. Oh, they gain, she gets nothing from the conversation. But then, yeah, he managed, he did go, becomes a hero and saves them mainly because he's a big fan of Al Rira, it turns out. Yeah, which makes sense. The whole mystery incorporate plus Mike Michelle all jump into Al Rira's car.

Mike Michelle just keep being in this movie. Yeah, it is super not clear why. He made a vague promise about caramel corn, caramel corn. It's like a life debt. He's like, I've got to fall these kids. Yeah, get him that car. Yeah, otherwise like a normal reaction would be like, I'm just going to leave these teenagers to be killed by these pumpkins, right? I have a daughter.

Well, I mean, if I was somewhere with my young children, I wouldn't be like, weren't an adventure now, kids. Like, hurry up. It's like, since at any moment, Mike and Michelle could just pull off on any exit and just go into a town and not be chased by pumpkin monsters. Yeah. Yeah.

Uh, so the uh, scarecrow gets overcome by the jackaline here. Do you imagine Mike's at a cowboy costume? Oh, yeah. They're both dressed as cow folk. That's true. I forgot about that. Yeah, maybe dressed up as a cow poke. He's like, I feel a sense of an honor bound in this like this

western way. Yeah, I'm inhabiting the. Modern day modern day Mike would run and save himself and his daughter, but Old West Mike, he follows a different code. Yeah, he's got he's got to do what's right. He follows the code that when their gas, their car runs out of gas, they abandon the vehicle and run off into the woods to a spooky house up a hill. They prepare to fight. Fred does this like predator, like Dutch from Predator thing where he makes a bunch of fucking traps and then he like lights up on fire. Which, which, uh, definitely watches while eating popcorn. Yeah.

Sure. Fred. Seven of those traps. These are much more violent traps to the, you expect? These are death traps. Yeah. Sure. Let's wrap. These are much more violent traps to the you expect. These are death traps. Yeah. Yeah. These are killing these pumpkins. So, uh, shea, Scooby and Shaggy, then make Velma eat a Scooby snack so they can follow her into her mind palace. That the Scooby snack a lot creates a bomb, of

course. And you would expect that the FDA would not allow this product on the market. If it has this kind of psychotropic properties, this is something- It's clearly like leaning into the drug references of Shaggy, but it doesn't map to any sort of like, it doesn't map one to one to a drug. I mean, the treating almost like peyote or something Well, I'll eat the same Scooby Sacks and we'll be bonded. Yeah, it's very strange Yeah, so they travel through Velma's memories of the Insighting incident

They I they don't really figure anything out right? They just like do, because apparently their consciousness merges enough that she sees the groan that Jackie saw earlier that has the writing on it that will help correct the case. So the pumpkins arrive and all their cars just get wrecked. It's pretty crazy. And then Fred's traps murder a shitload of pumpkins. Then they charge and murder more pumpkins along with the musical montage.

This was pretty fun. And then despite all that... There's so much, so many points in the movie where they're like, I guess we got to fight some pumpkins. And they're just mass-occurring these pumpkins. Like, they can easily take out all of them. And then at a certain point they go, up, more pumpkins, we got to get out of here. And I never quite sure how they make, do that up more pumpkins, we got to get out of here.

I never quite sure how they make do that mental math, but you got to keep the story moving I guess. And there's that giant pumpkin that's the size of like in L.A. Yeah, I think that's mostly frayed. Like a pumpkin. Yeah. So despite all their efforts, they're surrounded. Velma admits that she is frightened and she then charges into the alpha pumpkins mouth.

Then an app shuts down all the pumpkins turns out that they're all drones and into the alpha pumpkin's mouth. Then an app shuts down all the pumpkins, turns out that they're all drones, and that the alpha pumpkin is like a drone factory that like captures people and then takes their stuff and puts it on a new jack-a-lantern, and then keeps them in a crappy little like cell. It's like, it's an elaborate way of making you think that people are being turned into pumpkin monsters.

When the pumpkin monsters would be just as effective if they didn't try to convince you that they were turning people into pumpkin monsters. Okay, we're just eating people. Justin, if Justin, if you're captured by the alpha pumpkin, what of your garments would they take to put on a jack-a-lantern to make us think, oh fuck, Justin's now a jack-a-lantern? Yeah, I don't I'm sure I'm sure this would be the one my woodworking god. Sure. They would fly out we're in those we'd say it's a mackerel lantern. We got to get out of here. Yeah. Alright. That guys is a flop house listener. I have made a I would say not in frequent

situation is me listening to the podcast with little to no familiarity of the film that you are describing, but I am listening to this discussion as both a viewer of the film and a listener and this has got to be one of the ones that sounds the most amazing. This has got to be way up there unlike, so are to saying these things. As if like, well, then you know, the Alpha pumpkin has been transforming them and the Vilmas and the Mind Palace with Shaggy and their consciousness is formed.

It is indescribably strange. Yeah, well, the amount of times I had to pause the movie to be like, okay, I gotta write some sentences down. The whole of the story. Hearing it described back to me, We need to be like, okay, I got to write some sentences down. I'm also not that. Hearing it described back to me like really has sort of undone like a loadstone of like Scooby-Doo in general, where I'm just like, okay, wait, hold on, why does the villain need to convince everyone else

that something supernatural is happening? Yeah, you know, obviously. It's never been adequately answered in 50 years of Scooby-Doo productions. I think what I, it's basically just a means to get these incredibly charismatic characters, Shaggy, a cowardly hippie, Scooby-Doo, a cowardly dog, Velma, a smart nerd, Daphne, a blank, sociopath whose mask hides nothing behind it, and Fred, who's kind of, you know, a lumbering lung head with a sweater on. It's just to get those guys in action and traps.

It's just to get them in action and hope that they eventually run into the three stuages, or perhaps Sunny and Cher, or Tim Conway, or someone else that you'd see on TV in the 1970s, you know? It's that, well, because you see, you see in the character select screen, you'd see Fred, and you'd be like, he's a bruiser, he's just gonna go in there, he's gonna hit big,

but he's gonna be slow, but you wouldn't expect him to be a trap character, but whatever, man, you know, it's cool, sometimes games change it up. It is funny saying like those old celebrity skeooby-dos because you have the same sensation like when you're watching a little muppet show where you're like, I guess this person was popular at one point. I don't know who they are. Like, you know, sometimes you get a mark camel and then sometimes you get somebody like, okay, they were a dancer, I guess. I don't know.

Along with El Vira, they will, in late in almost at the end reference a celebrity crossover that literally no child will Enjoy or appreciate it's there's a phyllis dillard nod Yeah, absolutely bizarre no reason to think that a child would enjoy that so what would the what would be that like Modern day equivalent if Scooby-Doo was doing with celebrities now they did that would be like I don't know who they are they teaming up with judge Judy or are they teaming up with Jim Parsons? Like who would it be? I actually have an answer for this because they, the current series, or at least the most recent series, it's called Scooby Doo and Guess Who, which is each episode is with a new celebrity. So just recently, we have,

the premiere episode was NBA basketball legend Chris Paul. Okay. And then there's the ghost of Abraham Lincoln is in the next one. I mean, that's not, that doesn't seem like a real guest star. I have to say, I mean, that's a pretty big gift.

If they can get him, I mean, I'm not excited. I mean, if it says ghost of Abraham Lincoln himself in the credits, then yes, that's a huge get. But yeah, this is the fact, yes, so we've got, the next one is one to psych and then it's Sherlock Holmes. And then it's Ricky Jervais and then it's one woman. And then it's Pinnett Teller.

Maybe he was gonna tell everybody to be atheist. Yeah, is it Ricky Jervais asks himself? It's gotta be, guys. I'm gonna tell you, I'm just trying to tell you that's Ricky Gervais and then Wonder Woman and then Penn and Teller and then Erkel from Family Matters. Wait, but it's Erkel or it's Jaliel White. No, it's Orange. It's the character that Jim Galpagan and we're now and Cia. Yeah. I love the idea. No, this is good because it's like Scooby-Doo in the mystery gang.

They're like, uh, the man thing in the Marvel comics who's the guardian of the nexus of all realities. So who knows what could pop out of our barberian, how are the duck? The Scooby-Doo gang can meet anybody in any reality at any point in time. You know, that's pretty, that one week they're hanging out with Jordan Peterson and the next week, it's them and, it's them with Jordan Peterson and the next week. It's them and It's them and Justin Bieber and the next week. It's them and Rick Moranis. I guess these are just all Canadian people. Hold on I'm losing it every here guys because then we've got what's described as comedy rocker Kenan Tom

Whoopee Goldberg Okay, comedy rocker. What do you rock man? Whoopie goal Burke Flash What's the reason We're seeing you, Sammy's gonna have to shoot me. Then we check it with Jeff Donald. And then the work is gonna take a real quick spin over to see Maddie's England from Dancepoms. And then it is set over their rising and Jeff Fox or the fake and it's FOT. FOT! I'm putting Malcolm Victor. What? Malcolm. I'm putting Malcolm Victor. What? Malcolm?

So it sounds like they literally put the names of every human being in the world in a half. And they just think about our fictional characters. Including some fictional characters. Guys, while investigating a werewolf attack on Broadway the gang runs into actor and voice talent Christian Slater who tried to win this heartbreaking song filled musical mystery centered around the prom night that changed his life forever. And then it's finally nailed to grass ties in heartbreaking. Holy sh. Season two just kicked off the make sure to get in there. Yeah, you're going to meet Kasey Musgraves. Oh, wow.

She's working free now. Wow. I'll do that by the way. This week, we're teaming up with Billy Eilish next week. It's Odysseus. And the week after that, it's our Cineo Hall. And then the week after that, it's Adam of Adam and Eve fame.

Actually, it's Kristen Shaw and Joey Chessna. Joey Chessna. Joey Chessna. Oh, man alive. So man alive. If it goes, if it continues in this direction, it's going to be eventually back to you little one. And it's going to be a horror for us, the shackle of his own tale.

That's when the Earth explodes. Yeah. Oral for us. The shackle of his own town. That's when the earth explodes. Yeah. Okay. So the sheriff reveals his crazy planet turns out the sheriff's the villain. No big surprise. So the sheriff's the villain, he has a crazy plan to spend millions of dollars to slowly become a local sheriff and be mean to some teenagers and then steal some crystals.

And because he was, well, because he was a, he was a rich guy who the, the kids unmasked and, and gotten trouble. Yeah. So that justifies his spending. Well, I'm saying it's a revenge plot. And I said, the sheriff didn't win the lottery and decide that he's been spending millions to get him to some care about is that the sheriff had illegally stolen the money or something. Well, so they tried, but he, but can say, look, he's already failed once at this,

like, I'm gonna have a supernatural scam thing. Like, if he's gonna have revenge on the kids, why don't you show up and shoot him? Hey, look, look, Scorpion keeps getting caught by Spider-Man, but every time he breaks out of jail, he puts that damn tail back on and just tries to hit Spider-Man with it. Like, people get stuck in cycles, you know?

Yeah. Yeah, because after in cycles, you know? Yeah. Yeah, because after a while, you're like, I spent so much time learning how to use this fucking scorpion tail. Yeah. I don't want to try to do something different. He's like, I'm too old to learn a new employment skill. This is just what I do.

I don't want to change his, you don't want to change his Twitter handle. I'm a whole friend. It's hard for me to get. It's hard for me to get at Scorpion one. Yeah. So they tracked the sheriff's phone. They tried to catch him, but oh, oh, the scarecrows already got him.

His car has been abandoned. They want to just and it's just implied that the scarecrows has taken him to torture or kill him. Like he's just gone in the scarecrows clutches. Yeah. So they then wandered on the street with Elvira. They happen upon a Halloween party. They argue with the host

who keeps inviting them and they keep trying to come up with excuses for why they shouldn't go to the party. At this point in the movie, I was like, why is the movie still happening? Yeah. Why aren't they just joining this party? Why are they

so resistant to being at this party? Shaggy and Scooby see a snack station. So they start to drool so much their drool becomes a river and then they stand up surf all the way to the snack station. Elvira reveals that she realizes Daphne's whole reason for trying to be

mentored by Elvira is that so that she could take Elvira's clothes and be Elvira for Halloween. So Elvira gives Daphne her wig, which is actually a monkey. And then wanders away. Well, also, let's be clear. At first, they're like,

hey, was your plan to take L-virus clothes for a costume? And then it becomes implied that it's more like a single white female situation. Not if a little bit more. That's when they mentioned Phyllis Diller. They say we went on three mysteries with Phyllis Diller before we realized it was Daphne. So Phyllis Diller's body is just in a freezer somewhere.

Well, Daphne was running around with her clothes. But yet, I think the moment when Elvira takes off her wig and it's revealed to be a big ape that sits on her head was I think when the movie entered a new realm for me. Yeah, bald Elvira wanders off and sort of gives an outro to the movie. Well, keep her outro. Her head turns around and she's got a scary face. Famously red-haired Cassandra Peterson suddenly walking away bald for some reason.

Yeah, because they have to have the reveal where she turned like her neck twists all the way around like an owl and she has a like a weird alien face on the back of her ball. It's like them again, not for kids. No, not a good fit for children at all. The movie in the pet in the last five minutes, in the last five minutes, it kind of gives a glimpse of what this movie could have been if it was even crazier. Like, if it was the movie is like, it's riding this thing where it's like, yeah, I guess it's Scooby-Doo, but it's a little sillier. And then the end is just like, hey, you know what? This is what you could have been watching, just bonkers.

Yeah. And once in a madness is Happy Halloween Scooby-Doo. So what's the next part of the podcast, Dan? Well, we got to make our final judgment on this movie, whether it's a good, bad movie, a bad, bad movie, or a movie kind of liked. I will say, so if you were a bigger Scooby-Doo fan, like Audrey was eating this up. So I have to assume that if you like Scooby-Doo,

this is like the citizen can of Scooby-Doo films. I liked a lot of the silliness. I got to admit, like, at a certain point the movie started dragging for me which is crazy because it is only 70 minutes long and so much crazy stuff is happening at all times but there came a point where I'm like all right I know that the ending to this is not going to make any sense. Let's just get to the solution of the mystery. ending to this is not going to make any sense. Let's just get to the solution of the mystery. But I guess marginally, look, if this is your thing,

it was fun. I kind of liked it, but it's borderline. What do you guys have to say? I would say also that I kind of liked it. I'd give it a more full-throated recommendation than danded. I would say it does drag a little in the four hours or so that they spend driving on the road but that's just based on reality. They said crystal cove is this far away from the nearest town. We cannot have them drive less because people are gonna be like wait a minute there are no towns that close to crystal cove. They've got to be on the road longer than that and I totally understand not wanting to end up in the goof section of IMDB

but otherwise not as someone who is not a fan of Scooby-Doo, it was fun to see a Scooby-Doo thing where I was like, oh, there's a lot of funny jokes in this. But like Dustin was saying, it's not all meta jokes, you know. There's some, but it's not all like them just undercutting what a Scooby-Doo should be. And until we get that gritty realistic reboot of Scooby-Doo, I'll add Detective Pikachu, then this is the best we're gonna get. So I say, I kinda liked it. Yeah, it's basically the adventure brothers episode.

I think I'll join you guys. I'll say, it's a movie I kinda like, I will say that trying to write a plot summary for this movie was like, Pecos Bill trying to last so, or fucking world. Bill trying to last so. Stuff stuff certainly happened. Yeah, and Justin, I think you might be the most positive.

Well, it's just, you know, as you watch enough animated films as a parent that so many of them are an Elliot contest this so many of them the an alien contested this. So many of them, the work has not been put into not even making it something adults could enjoy, but just like a functional piece of entertainment. But when you stumble on something like that, it's almost kind of a nice surprise. Like we turned it on around Halloween,

because I don't know, Scooby Doo, it's a new Halloween movie and it, you know, whatever kids, they watched Scoob and enjoyed it, which doesn't speak well of their character. But they have two parents, I'm only half of their parents. So, the whole time they were clapping and laughing at Scoob, you would turn to wife and say, this is your genes. This is your genes.

This is not my genetics. It's like it's just kind of a relief when you find something. It's like, oh, somebody actually tried on this. Like, somebody actually put the work in and made this like, made some good jokes in here. I can watch this 30 times and not be driven mad. So yeah, on that basis, I think it's a quality piece of entertainment. You're not going to go in getting your guts busted constantly as an adult, but if you go in a little,

in the right frame of mind, there's a lot of fun stuff going on. It is surprisingly, there's a lot of adult comedies that do not deliver as many laughs as this film does. I will say that. We're in a stage in Hollywood where actually funny comedies are pretty hard to come back. So this will have to do. This will have to do screams the quote on the box. This will have to scubi do.

In a world bereft of truly funny adult comedies. This will have to Scooby-Doo. That's the name of the next film. This one, Scooby-Doo. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

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and I was wondering if Squarespace you think could help me. Probably, but let's hear it. Okay, so this is a business website. It is called www.nonstur.com. That's N-O-N-N as in no, as in non, not a monster. How many times does this happen to you? You hear a story about a ghoul, ghost, monster, Gremlin, or other fantastical being,

somewhere in our great nation. You get in your van, you get your friends together, you're talking dog with you. You head to that location to see this cool monster for yourself, only for it to turn out to be some dude who has plans for a public park and wants to buy it and turn it into a oil refinery. So he's scaring people away by pretending to be like, you know, the Pittsburgh polluca or something like that. What a disappointment. I wish I saved the time, energy, and the drive. I'd go the nickname of the late town governor Pennsylvania.

Isn't the book of the nickname of the late town governor Pennsylvania? That's a good point and very topical. Okay, so let's call him the Boise Boogie Man. So you go all the way to Boise and not a Boogie Man, just some dude. I wish that there'd been a website out there, a kind of snopes, a legend denying website that told me when it was a monster, what I'm calling a nonster or not monster. Now I know there's some difficulty here because monster and nonster sound very similar. Be sure that you are putting in nonster with an N as in Norville, not a monster with an M as in Morville, which is what you would say if you wanted more of a Ville. This isn't enough town, give me more of it.

Whereas Norville is what you would be saying if you were about Norville Jones, the main character from the Miracle Morgan's Creek starring Eddie Bracken and Betty Hutton. Now, www.nonstor.com. It's your place for both public crowdsourced comments on what are real monsters and what are not and what are basically what are real monsters and what are real monsters. So we have people all over the place. It's like it's like ways, but for monsters and nonsters.

And they send in their reports, and you can just look it up, tip-tip-tip, that's you typing in the nonsters name on the keyboard. And up, it turns out that the San Antonio Psycho, I thought it was some kind of toxic waste created, humanoid chud. Nope, it turns out it's just some guy who is trying to sell his minor league

baseball team to a different city and wants it to seem that the stadium is haunted. Now, I don't mean to split hairs here, but you just said humanoid chud. And now aren't chud always humanoid isn't that part of the description? That's like saying ATM machine. That's a very good point. And you know what? Forget the whole website. You just figured out that you just figured out that I don't know what I'm talking about. So why we have these kind of rap sessions, right? So I can poke holes and like find out if there's any mistakes. Or you know, I appreciate it. I appreciate it.

So when I said instead of humanoid chud, maybe I should have said some kind of, some kind of Leonid chud, kind of lion-based cannibalistic, you know what I'm talking about? I don't know, I don't know if it would have worked, but it's over now. We're past it. That's true. We can't change the past, and I'm just Monday morning quarterbacking at this point.

So anyway, that's www.nonstur.com website. I'm now officially canceling, because Stewart has pointed out that I'm the wrong person to run it. Dan, maybe you want to take this on, but Squarespace, I think it's the company to help you. Well, that was certainly an effective ad for Squarespace. Stuart, do you have a jumbo tron for us? I do have a choo choo choo choo choo choo jumbo tron. Garbage warlocks, Alex and Ian dive headfirst into the raging dumpster fire that is dive head first into the raging dumpster fire that is seasonal anime. Join them as they uncover hidden gems, discuss how a snake girl would wear a onesie, and hand out awards to the best shows at the end of every season. With almost two years worth of episodes, there's plenty of goofs and random tangents to dive into. Look for the protagonist

seat podcast on YouTube, iTunes, or wherever you get your podcasts. Now, when they say seasonal anime, do they mean anime that comes in seasons like TV seasons, or do they mean like a very Akira Christmas? That kind of stuff. That is a question that is not explained. I can't answer it, but maybe, I mean, maybe there is like fall anime summer anime. Maybe that's it. Yeah, yeah.

Like happy fourth of July project, Aiko, like that kind of stuff. Yep. Yeah. Okay. All my anime references as you can tell our 30 years old. Yeah. Yep.

Yeah. Ren to half is now Ren the 43 and a half, right? I guess. Yeah. It's been a long time. I don't know. Yeah. Yeah. Happy Dragon's Balls giving everyone. So I have another job, Otron. This is a message for Nathan. And this message is from Sarah. And Sarah writes to Nathan. She says, Happy 40th, you're one of my oldest friends and now you're also old in capital letters. I'm so glad we've remained friends all these years and I'm inspired by how much you've accomplished. You're truly the Stuart Wellington to my Elliot Kalen. John is obviously Dan, which means Ellis must be the flop house house cat. It's perfect. Love and hug. See you both Sarah.

How sweet. That's a sweet message. And I wish I knew who all these people were so I could see who we track toward, who we match up with. Yeah, I will. Yeah. Yeah. So guys, Sharko and Hippo is still available.

Stewart's still, still own some bars. I mean, Sharko and Hippo for still available. Stewart is still on some bars. I mean, Sharko and HIPPO for people who are just checking in is a book that I wrote. It's not, otherwise that sentence that Dan said would, though true, would seem completely incomprehensible. But here it may be like, what is that? Then they Google it and hopefully the first Google result would be the bookie wrote it, not something,

I don't know, weird or? No, probably it would be non-ster.com telling you that Sharko and HIPo are not real monsters. They are in fact the stars of my new children's book, Charco and Hippo. But Charco and Hippo, it's available in bookstores everywhere. Get it through your local independent bookstore. And of course, hinterlands bar, still barring along after all these years. I'm Casey Kason.

And Minnie's bar, which is barring after slightly not as many years, but it's still barring. I'm Casey Kason. Dan, are you also Casey Kason? I'm also Casey Kason. And Elliot is Casey Kason. And back to the show. All right. Well, next we move on to letters. And the first letter is from Marlena, last name with held. Who writes? Marlena, last name with held. Who writes? Marlena, do you trick one of the great legends of the screen?

It's an honor to get a letter from her. She writes, I just listened to your recent episode with Mike Rice, and I thought I'd share the story of why that's a big deal for me. So here's the tale of how a brief encounter with Mike Rice made me accidentally and hopefully temporarily ruin the Simpsons for myself. I think his name might be pronounced Reese. Yeah, I was confused too.

Because he spelled Rice. Yeah, I looked up the pronunciation of that name and the internet said Rice, but I don't know if it might be wrong. Let's call him Mike Simpsons. Yeah, Mike Simpsons. This brings me to a few winners ago. My dad and I went to the Museum of Modern Art for showing the silent comedy, something we both love. When the couple next to us took their seats

and started talking to each other, I tensed with recognition. That's a Simpsons writer. I whispered to my dad. I was certain it was Mike Simpsons whose voice I had been listening to in Commentaries for all those years. I Surrupthisterously Googled a master of the face to the name and yes, it was definitely him There wasn't time to do or say any thanks that the movies began shortly after. I did enjoy finding out what jokes Mike

Simpsons laughed at though I'm a pretty reserved and somewhat socially anxious person. So I knew I would need my dad's prompting to tell Mike that I was a huge fan after the screening. Unfortunately, my dad is even more reserved than I, and when I asked if I should say something, he did not encourage it. So I didn't say anything in a decision.

I regretted pretty much instantly after leading the theater. This regret was compounded with my mom and friends. I told assured me that he probably would have been flattered and not annoyed by the intrusion. The regret I sing on the cake was realizing that I had actually been wearing my Bartman sweatshirt to the screening. Now I said I'm an anxious person and I have trouble compartmentalizing so instead of just having a twinge of regret when I listen to the commentaries, I had soured the entire experience of the Simpsons for myself. I couldn't casually watch an episode without thinking of what a mistake I'd made. As time has passed, I've started to watch again,

but never with the same fervor and joys I used to have. Well, there might be other reasons. So it was a big step. Wow, it dig on the show, Dan. It's certainly a chart for a show to maintain consistent quality over 30 years and four million So it was a big step. Wow, it dig on the show, Dan. It was not good. It certainly, I talked for a show to maintain consistent quality over 30 years and four million episodes, but come on, Dan. I watched till very recently. So it was a big step when I listened to your episode

with Mike as a guest and didn't feel any psychic pain. Maybe I'm back on my way to wholeheartedly loving my favorite show again. The next step is wearing all my various Simpson shirts again. Thank you, Peaches, for being part of the healing process. Marlena, last name with health. I just wanted to share that moment of healing. Sure.

The flop house is here. Sure. It weighs big and small. Yeah, and you know what, if you ever run into him again, introduce yourself as long time listeners may remember, I have long regretted that I never sent Ray Harryhausen a fan letter, because I was always like, I'll get around to it and then of course he was an old man and he passed away. But the way to do it, just a tip for next time is not to do it the way my grandma does,

where there was more than one occasion where she and I would be at the theater, me and my grandmother, who I love, and Wallace Sean from Princess Bride would be in the audience, and she would ask me who he was and what his name was. Mir seats away from the man himself, and I would try to surbtitiously say, oh, that's Wallace Sean. What's his name? His father was the editor of New Yorker. What's his name? And it was, it was always excruciating, and then after the fact, I found it pretty funny. And also famously kind of a grumpy man. So I'm sure you did. Oh yeah, I'm sure he did not enjoy having someone,

having an old woman loudly near him, question who is who he is. I have long tried to encourage people that like, if you see someone who's work you enjoy, I don't care how famous they are. I think everyone always likes to hear. I like the things you made. That's a little, even especially if you're having a kind of a bummer day, I think that's all,

I can't imagine a situation where I wouldn't want someone to be like, good, you're good. That's now my, as long as you don't. Now the CD, bin there here, I think I agree with you. Yeah. Yeah, the CD underbelly of that advice is that one time I was at the LAX and I saw John Seamaginli and I thought I'm gonna go over there and say hi to John Seamaginli.

I love John Seamaginli. We're in line at the the thing, you know, in the TSA line. So like we kept serpentineing past each other and I had all these opportunities. I'm gonna do it now. I'm gonna do it now. And afterwards I was kicking myself and like, damn it. I should have said opportunities. I'm gonna do it now. I'm gonna do it now. And afterwards, I was kicking myself. I was like, damn it. She said something to John C. McGinley. And as I was boarding my plane, I realized in my head, I was John C. Riley. And if I had gone up to him, and I had gone up to him,

I would have said Mr. McGinley, Mr. McGinley, I'm sure you get this all the time, which I doubt he does, cause this seems Johnson Riley. I would've been so disappointed, that you get Johnson's email. But I saved myself that. Johnson likes scrub scenes and stuff.

Yeah. That's why it's always a good idea, as the letter writer said, to Google the person, just to make sure you got the thing right. I would say judge the vibe, see if they're in a good mood. I did see Adam Scott at Tootsie, the Broadway show of Tootsie. And afterwards, I was very close to him. And if I had been one person closer, I would have told him how much I love Piranha 3D,

which is not ironic. But he kind of looked like he was he was keen on getting out of there and not being impossible he saw tootsie there's no way that's why it's a laughing you would have been the second best part of his night after seeing a tootsie well i mean it's it's kind of famous among Broadway hounds that he was lobbying very hard for the lead role in tootsie and did not get it and he went to every show just to scowl through it and think about how much better he would have been in that role.

That was the guy from Crazy Ace Girlfriend, right? Who actually played it, yeah, I think so. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Rachel Bloom. Okay. That's not a guy and it's not the person who is in Tootsie. That's the star of Crazy Ace Girlfriend. Second and final letter of the evening

or morning, whenever you listen. Amy last name with held, right? Amy Adams. Again, hugely impressive. Yeah. I'm writing to ask if you could all name a pet after any character from a movie. What name would you choose?

Thanks for the great podcast. Amy last name with held. I gotta say, my last two cats have been named after old movie stars, not necessarily their characters. In one case, named after the character that came to be identified with him, my first cat, Lulu, was named after Louise Brooks, who was often called Lulu because of her character in Pandora's Box. And we called her that because early on, Lulu did not make any noise, and we thought,

is this cat mute? And so a silent film star came to my mind and Archie is named after Archie Leech, which is Kerry Grant's real name, but but guys you have characters from movies you would name your cats after or dogs or pets of any kind. Sure I mean the main reason why I think Charlene's not going to let me ever buy a dog or adopt a dog is because I would 100% name him after the most noble of all the Jedi. That's right. Key doggy, or doggy, or dog-addy-mundi.

I don't, I haven't decided which one I want to go. A runny dog-addy-dog-feel. Dog-addy-dog-feel. That's already taken. And also not a character that's a, the actor, talking about the character key, and he got the character he played eventually. That's true, yeah. Yeah, probably, you know, the thin man is one of my favorite movies.

Of course, I name it after the titular thin man, Claude Wynett. So my dog Claude Wynett, or maybe it's a fish or a cat, that's what I name him, or her, Claude Wynett. Sorry, Claude Wynett. Sorry, Clyde Wynett. Probably Teddy KGB from rounder shirt. I'm just sure. I'm sure.

Because the pet accent is outrageous. I'll splash the dog food whenever I want. Now it seems like it would be fun to have a dark name Teddy, KG. Sure. It would be good, now that they grew on it. I can't help but that in the moment, but I think it would be sometimes.

So, I mean, Scooby Doo tells us as we've postulated that a dog is named... That'd be a good one too, Scooby Doo. Scooby Doo is named after, dogs are named after the foods they like best. So I guess if I had a dog, he'd be named Pill Raptin Cheese. No, no, no.

No. No. No. No. Okay. Does that mean I have to start calling my two-year-old, old pringles? Yes.

Because that's her whole thing. Carpet Pringles. Get over here. We, earlier before recording this, my family and I, we went out to play some baseball at the local Rex Center and just the family. And my younger son, the two-year-old, was holding a rice cake and every time a tiny grain of rice cake would fall on the ground, he would scrabble for it. That was the one he wanted to eat the most and I'd have to pull it from his hand and throw it away. And he literally has a whole rice cake in

his hand. Like each grain in the dirt is what he wants to eat. What a country, am I right? Okay. And this economy. So now the last segment comes, that is recommendations, movies that maybe, you know, would be an adult human would fully enjoy. Right. Or watch it as a movie marathon along Twitch of three movies released. I believe in 1996 he had Carpool,

the Stupids and Big Bully. That was Tom Arnold's big year I guess when they're really trying to make him happen. And I only saw in full the Stupids which is the one I cared about because as a big my brother, my brother and me listener, I've heard it referenced many times and I got to say it was very funny. I laughed a lot. It's it's really good. The stupid holds up. It is fantastic. Yeah. What a film. I think it was not appreciated because as the title would suggest it is very stupid but it is stupid in a smart way. Like they have really put a lot of work

into creating a house of cards that pays off by the end of just like idiotic, misapprehensive, misapprehensions. And like, I don't think everyone in it is doing a great job. Like I kind of feel like Mrs. Stupid is playing stupid more than Tom Arnold. I believe with my full heart and soul that he is this stupid character.

But Jesus, it's a hard one to recommend to people because they might watch and be like, what is wrong with you? But I was watching it and being like, I can't imagine anyone not laughing at this. There's an actor named Bug Hall in it. Yeah. He plays Buster's dupe, but okay. Yeah. Bug Hall, it's hilarious.

You and I had a, we watched the entire Bug Hall Omnibus because I watched Little Rascals with my kids last week. So there's all the, all the Bug Hall movies. Now, he played Al Falfa in that one. Now, that is all the bug awful. Oh, he's, uh, he's, he's in a bunch of other movies that turns out as a, as a moral grownup, I didn't realize this bug all. I like Atlas shrugged part two apparently he's in.

Well, Max Landis is in it. Is a graffiti artist? Oh, damn, he must have loved it. It's a John Landis directed film. Uh, John Landis, he doesn't murder anyone in this one, right? Yeah, he does. How many people, how many people died during the making of the stupid stick? If he died, he covered it up effectively. Wait, and there's a there's a cameo in it according to Wikipedia from from director Costa Goveris. So that's pretty amazing. There are a lot of David front of Bergs in it as well. There are a lot of

no directors. That's cameos. And you know, Dennis, I'm not recommending the little rascals, but I do want to say that Donald Trump is in the little rascals, but I do want to say that Donald Trump is in the little rascals as the father of the rich kid. Oh, right. And there's an outtake where he reaches over and steals this lady's popcorn. And it's clearly like improvised. He like reaches over and steals his lady's popcorn and eats some of it.

And it's like, oh, it's a funny outtake. Okay, fine. Put that in. There's a different outtake. And then they cut back to this one. And they showed Donald Trump spitting the chewed up popcorn onto the person sitting in front of them and saying, this popcorn really is terrible.

That is not improvised. That is just how he, what he was doing with this human life. And they caught an awful film. And they just put it, put it, put it in the, in the outtakes. He was really a terrible person. Well, most of us are here. Always, it's, it's, it in the in the outtakes. He was really a terrible person. Full slice of hero. Always.

It's it's not like power drove him mad. He was always a bad person. No, it sucks always. Dan, the the Wikipedia list of celebrity came out for the stupidest making you want to see it because it's almost like a Scooby Doo series because it's like, you got Jenny McCarthy. Okay, it was made in the 90s.

And you've got Atomic Goian, Norman, Juicin, Robert Wise, Guilopon, Tacorvo. This is it. Yeah, Max John Lander, this is really calling it all of it. His director buddies to be at this.

It has a lot of very, very strange jokes in it that you would not expect. Yeah. That sounds great. Uh, it's funny. You mentioned David Cronenberg. I'm going to recommend a movie

called Possessor or Possessor Uncut, which is directed by the son of David Cronenberg Brandon C Possessor Uncut, which is directed by the son of David Cronenberg, Brandon Cronenberg. It is a nice little gross thriller. It's kind of like if you took a laser disc of a Christopher Nolan movie and kind of like press your thumb on it to slow the whole thing down. It's a high concept about an assassin who using technology transfers her consciousness into somebody else's brain and then uses them to kill people. And it's super slow and gross. And I liked it a lot. So,

yeah. Stuart, I want to say if I, uh, that's what I would have recommended. I just watched it. That's what I would have recommended. If I say, if I, uh, that's what I would have recommended. I just watched it. That's what I would have recommended. If I decided, if I hadn't decided to throw caution to the wind, to recommend this to you. Yeah. Uh, should I go next? Sure. I'm going to recommend a film drama from the early 70s.

Uh, I'm going to recommend a movie called Cinderella Liberty, Australian James Con and Marcia Mason with Eli Wallach in a supporting role. And this is a movie that I had been wanting to see for a number of years because I could not understand the title, Cinderella Liberty. And it turns out it's because that's the name. It's just two different words. It's just two different words to throw them together.

No, it's what they call when you are on shore leave in the Navy, but you have to be back at midnight. So you don't have a full night, you just have to be back at midnight. James Khan is a sailor who has Shoreleave and in Seattle and falls in love with a essentially a prostitute who has a teenage son and finds that his records have been lost by the Navy. This is the 70s. It's literally a paper file that they can't find. And so he stuck there and can't be put on another ship. And he forms a relationship with her.

And it is a real like, you know, sometimes funny, sometimes serious character study of these characters. And I liked a lot. And it was fun seeing James Conn playing a character who is not like a blustery, you know, tough guy, you know. And. And so I like to let it's directed by Mark Rydell, who also directed one of Dan's favorites for the boys, Starring Bet Midler. So, so that's Cinderella Liberty. Justin, what would you like to recommend? Uh, you know, there's so many,

I only get to do this show once and I've seen so many movies that I'd like to recommend. You know what I'm gonna do? I mean, you could come back. You know what I'm gonna have? I mean, you could come back. You know what the star of the show, you were pretty sincere about not having it back on. Yeah. Yeah, I think you had that decision to make.

No, I want to recommend Velocipaster. You guys seem Velocipaster. I've only seen clips from it and I've yet to see the whole movie. And it seems, yeah, bonkers. It's bonkers. It's really interesting. It's a really interesting because it starts out seeming like it's going to be sort of an intentionally bad

camp thing and there is some of that and then there's some jokes that just work earnestly and then the strangest thing about this film is that every once in a while it will just pick up competence and put it over it's shoulder and just be a competent movie for like 15 minutes and then just drop it and it's almost like the director is teasing you like oh yeah yeah I know I know I can do it good there's like a love scene in this movie that is so wildly effective and like romantic and sweet and erotic and it it's like, what the hell? Wait, you know how to do it.

Why are you not doing it? I don't want to. I don't want it. It's a movie about a pastor that turns into a philosopher, after, and eats criminals. So that's the movie I'm making. I could make a good movie, but I'm going to make this movie. And it is really, really enjoyable.

It's like, again, it's like 70 minutes long. It's about one happy Halloween Sco's like 70 minutes long. It's about it. About one happy Halloween Scooby-Doo worth of time to watch. But I got a big kick out of it. I've seen it a few times now. I really dig. I would love for that to be the new measurement of time that becomes the official ones that scientists doing like Cosmos type TV shows will say billions of happy Halloween Scooby-Doo's ago. Are you? Are universe was created? No, yeah, that's that. Is it lost a pastor the movie where a car explodes, but they just wrote car explosion effects on the screen?

Yeah. It's one. Good stuff. A micro budget too. It was made for basic, I think, $80,000. I mean, it is. Yeah. Very impressive. This is made for basically, I think $80,000. I mean, it is, yeah. Very impressive. The director, Brendan Steer, I think his name is,

has gotten a large cash investment for his next film. So I'm, which apparently has some connection to Velocipaster. It's called Outback Dracula. Okay. So I should get on Velocipaster. So I'm called up for when Outback Dracula is. Yeah, watch Velocipaster because he will probably show up in Outback Dracula, which according to the press release,

shifts the madness to 1880s Australia, where a psychic, a lesbian school teacher teams up with the world's greatest adventure, define her missing girlfriend and beat Dracula and his golden army of the other day. So do not miss this. I mean, that is the plot quickly down under. They're just ripping it off.

So before we do our quick closing stuff, Justin, do you have anything to plug? I know that you have a book about how to podcast coming out. And I know this because even- Well, this episode would be out. And I know this because even will this episode be out? Uh, Saturday, no after holiday. Yeah, I this, uh, I, I, I've even though I already have a podcast myself,

I pre ordered your book and I'm looking forward to thank you reading it. You'll learn a few things. Saturday, November 21st, this is coming out. You say we're doing a live show tonight. Oh, if you go to live.the McElroy.family. That's MCEL ROI. We're doing a live stream show. You can get tickets for 10 bucks. Sobbing's my medical history podcast to do with my wife Sydney is going to be there

and it's going to be fun. And please go watch it live. dot the Macro dot family. It's tonight. Yeah, you guys are the best in the biz. Having seen you guys do live shows over the last couple of years. You guys have gotten like so tight and professional at it that it makes me wonder what we're even trying to do over here. Yeah, I mean, I have tickets for the streaming show. I'm looking forward to it. Thank you so much. Even if you don't come, folks, I really can't emphasize that enough.

Just please buy. Watch it or go. It's up to you. Well, anyway, before we go, I would like to say thank you to our network, Max Womffun, that carries our show, The Flop House, and a couple of shows by Justin and his extended family. A family full of podcasters, just like the Partridge family, except for not singing. But the Partridge family was full of podcasters, that's true. And I'd like to thank Jordan Caling for editing the show and making

it sound better than it ever did when I produced it. And I'd like to thank our guest Justin for being here. My pleasure. And so for the flop house, I've been Damakoy. I've been Stewart Wellington. I'm Elliott Kaelin and continue to be. And that's Justin McRoy. I'm Justin McRoy. Do I say this is that's a weird thing to have a guest I'm just Yeah, you can give us the post-mortem afterwards We're doing okay. That was weird. I'll do it now more than hey, Charlie That's now that's not supposed to do now that was a way of doing 100 Yeah, that's on that's on Justin the first thing was on us

But the second thing was on Justin I've got a piece so bad this is end of shit all in it and this has been flop house keep reaching for the stars Okay, well, let's go. Bye! Good order. I'd head to the outro right after that though. I want to take your business. So many burns. Okay.