The Flop House - Ep. #333 - Wild Mountain Thyme

Episode Date: January 16, 2021

Faith and begorrah, sit right down laddies, lasses, and those not defined by the outdated gender binary, and we'll spin ye a tale of an emerald island far away, where no one talks like a real human, and all their problems are blarney. Tis a tale called Wild Mountain Time, and at least some in th' podcast think it's as barmy as Old McGarrigle's mule!Also, we’re doing a new Flop House VIRTUAL LIVE SHOW! On Saturday, February 6th, at 9 pm Eastern, we’ll be talking about TEEN WOLF, America’s top basketball movie! We’ll also be doing presentations, Q&A, and a few NEW SURPRISES! Worried that you CAN’T WATCH LIVE? Worry not! Ticket holders have a week to watch! Just $10 for a ticket! Buy them HERE!Wikipedia entry for Wild Mountain Thyme.Movies recommended in this episode:Wonder Woman 1984CamBlow the Man Down

On this episode we discuss Wild Mountain Time. Time repeated the clock king. Well Bartman you've got all the time in the world. I, Caramba exclaimed the Bartman reaching for a Bartirang. Okay. You're right it was a hot one. So was that read directly from a from a citizen story? Yeah, it's read from my Simpson's fanficked. Okay. What's interesting to me is that clock king is a real Batman villain and yet somehow he's fighting Bart May.

Yeah. A parody villain. A parody hero. Elliot, Elliot, I don't want to blow your hair back or nothing, but the world of fanfiction has a lot of strange mans. Oh, okay. Fair point. Okay.

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Yeah, it's one of those words a whole bunch of writing a different fonts that talks about what how crazy and wonderful my life is Well, I want to thank the the McElroy's for having Lynn Manuel Miranda come by and sing that one line from Hamilton, but we should probably There they're there is agent. I guess yeah, they are in the scenario Look, this is not a show where we just plug other shows of ours this is a show where we watch a bad movie and we talked about it in who boy we watched a movie of the moment it's called wild mountain time well how is it a movie of the moment Dan this is maybe the least relevant film in the history of film making considering considering I could not tell throughout most of it when it was taking place. Until they went to New York and I saw, oh, the modern day New York, I thought it was

in the 1940s, 50s. Well, no, they mentioned going to the Lion King before them. That's when I was like, okay. But even then, that could have been 20 years ago. It's a long-running show, and the longest running shows on Broadway. If not the longest running. Julie Tamor has done it again, the Lion King on Broadway now. I didn't mean that it speaks to our particular, like, moment in culture. If anything, it is retrograde. So it's a movie of the moment and that it exists in this moment in time.

It is the bad movie, do you sure, is what I would say. Like, I feel like the most enthusiastic bad movie chatter on the internet I've heard of late has been around this movie So I was delighted to Check it out to show that we have our fucking fingers on the pulse, baby Yeah, and now I've got this movie I want to say it's true I first heard this movie a few months ago when the radio did a news story about how bad the accents in the movie were So that's it was a breaking national news story back when there was still room in the news for stories like that.

Yeah. Well, this is a movie written and directed by John Patrick Shanley, who is a playwright of a note. He did a doubt among other things. He did. They play that this is based on, which is like a four person number that ran on Broadway. I should say, you should say hit play just to pump up the episode. Yeah, and I think a lot of people would know his work from Moonstruck,

which this is a pallid attempt to recreate the magic of in many ways. Or the screenplay for the movie Congo. Or the short or Joe versus the movie. We're back at Dimesore Story. Yeah, and Joe surprised to learn. I mean, there's a lot of we're back in this. There's a lot of way back. Now, and he's, and he has a problematic figure

for other reasons that we won't get into here. But John Patrick Shanley, so this is somebody who has a mixed bag of work. Some of it, some of the highest heights, some of it, some of the lowest lows. Dan, where does this one place? Well, we'll see. I could, I, I will say that him being a, a playwright sort of first,

um, makes me think that like, I could see how this material would work better on the stage, but I think we'll get to that. Well, uh, what was, what was the name of the play? What's the name of the play it's based on? It's like outside MollMagala Kagogal. It's some, wait, hold on. Let me take a look. It is based on play outside Mulling-Gar.

Okay. Or Mulling-Gar. Now, Dan. But that doesn't work as like a pun because the character specifically has an herb name. There's a character named Rosemarie. That's an herb and time is an herb name. There's a character named Rosemary. That's an herb and time is an herb. Well, I think the character name sage. No, I think the pun is more about time and time, like time the herb and time the processing of moments. I don't like time and Rosemary.

Oh, it is. Now, Dan, John Betrashanely directed the movie of doubt it's not like he wrote moon struck it here it's not like he's uh... this is a one this is a play right only who dabbled in film also directed joe joe versus the volcano but he's done three well actually that's that's not he'd not only directed he was the lead attorney in the case joe joe v the volcano which went to the supreme court they found for the volcano anyway let's get into this movie because it's a wild one.

So, Dan, how would you rate the mountain time in this? Would you rate it as wild, mild, or unavailable at the moment? Right over the Jack Reacher novels. Yeah. Now, Dan, listen, we're going to have an interesting sorry, I'm just going to say we're going to have an interesting take. I'm looking forward to hearing Dan's take on this because I found this movie to not be a wild one.

I found it to be an exceedingly mild and dull movie. But Dan, you are so hopped up on it. I want to see what you saw in it. Yeah. And if this movie was a, if this movie was a background level for the Street Fighter video game, it would be guile mountain time. Okay well thank god we circled back. And if it was if it was a high sea it was a Ghostbusters tie and high sea flavor it would be mild wild mountains slime. If Dan's getting frustrated now oh boy

we're just starting. So the movie starts well with uh... you know three or four production logos is all movies do these things uh... three or four three or four doesn't and there are a lot of production and each got each getting cheaper looking as they go on and uh... we get a voice over and i think to myself is that Christopher walkin sure is Christopher walkin doing a bad Irish accent probably the worst, probably the worst of an uneven bunch. What?

But I mean, he does a good job even though he doesn't see my horse at all. And he's doing an intro, just like a bunch of Irish Blarney. You know, just toss together some Irish poems in a wood shipper and that's. He says, he goes, he goes, they say, if an Irishman dies while telling a story you know he'll be back and I'd I still don't understand what he met by that and it never comes up in the movie so but Dan for you this was like

ah glory but Cree this was be like mother's milk to me ah my people speaking to me my Irish eyes are smiling are are mate I be a pirate too. Is that how you fell in watching it? Uh, I mean, so my lineage from the name McCoy, there's, I have an uncle who's very obsessed with the idea that we are of Scott's heritage. He, a lot of his identity is tied up in that. He has a guilt, he has a little Scotty dog, he has all the,

just, oh wow. All this stuffty dog he has all the all the stuff he's done all the way he created a dog for it I've never been convinced we're necessarily Scottish I don't I haven't done the genealogy it seems like maybe we're Scott's Irish is not important but I did look at this opening in one thing you can say for this film Ireland looks beautiful you look at you watch this movie in high death you're like I want to go to Ireland. That's what I'll say about that. Did I turn the green levels up on my TV too high? So Chris for Walkins talking about a guy loves to shoot crows. Just glass and walkin' talkin'. That's what we call it in the biz. miss. Um, this guy loves to shoot Crow's rose marries, dad. Okay, we, we

meet a young, a young lad who will grow up to be Jamie Dornan from the 50 shades movies. And he's allowed to have his Irish accent here, which improves his likability greatly. I'm still not sold on him, but this is the most I've thought he's put in a good performance in something else. He was named one of the 25 biggest male models of all time by Vogue.

Really? Yep. They call it Golden Door Show. He's a good looking man. We cannot deny that. But he's playing a very different kind of character than Christian Grey here. Wouldn't you say? Although very similar in some ways.

He is not outwardly defined by his obsession with domination and sexual violence, but yet at the same time, he is a man who represses his feelings and doesn't think himself worthy of love. So we'll get into that. Yeah. So when he's a young child, a young Jamie Dorden,

I'll call, I'm going to, you know, generally talk to people, refer to people by their actors' names, because I think it's easier to keep track of it that way. But he loves Fiona, another girl who you think that we'll maybe see again in the movie. We do not. She does not seem to figure into the plot as an adult person, but another child rosemary who will grow up to be Emily Blunt Let's say and we see a scene where Fiona makes fun of young Jamie Because he's got something on his nose. I think some bee pollen maybe he sticks his nose into a flower for reasons that will be revealed at the very end of the movie and our

stupid and and so she she tells me looks ridiculous and makes one let me let me let me just say that uh uh until the end of the movie you don't know that something that needs to be explained that's so what people do smell flowers there is a thing that happens at the end of this movie which is so randomly and explicable and yet if it had happened at the beginning of the movie, I would have been like, well this is an interesting movie. But instead it's like they held it to the very end and they need, because the movie is so sleepy that they're like, we gotta give it a shot of like vitamin B at the very end of this. Uh-huh. No, I agree with you there. We will get, we will get to that. But um, so she makes fun of Jamie Dornin

for having this stuff on his nose, young Jamie Dornin, and that makes Rosemary attack Fiona, and Anthony pushes her down to protect Fiona, and like this, of course, heartbreaking for Rosemary, because she likes him, but he's not seemingly interested, and she's talking to her dad about it. She's like, I have no place in the world. Where's the place for women? Which doesn't really figure in thematically with her. But there's a lot of, it feels like a play partly because there's a lot of like that like faux kind of Irish poetical talk in it.

And characters will be like, hey, what are you doing? I don't know, just leave me alone. Why not? Oh, it's a good thing men are tall because they have to bear the way to the goodness that women bring into the world. And I was like, what? Hold on a second.

There's a lot of non-secoder aphorisms and there's one really good line in the whole movie that I really liked. So congratulations, John Littrick, Stanley. Let's see if it's the same line that I liked. Well, you know, maybe it's the same line I like. Who knows? We'll find out after this.

Hey, so we flash forward to the child versions of our leads to we see Emily Blot full grown still wearing the exact same clothes, only larger that she was wearing as a child. I don't know whether she had multiple outfits in different sizes as she grew, or they just kept adding cloth to the old clothes. That's what they do in Ireland.

The clothes grow with you. That's that you get one set of clothes. Now, Dan, one thing I want to mention because it plays up later, her dad bucks up her spirit by playing Swan Lake on a record player and telling her you're the white Swan. So she identifies as that. But yeah, I have to assume that they use a growth ray

on the clothes so that they fit them later when they're adults or something like that. Otherwise they'd be walking around and like ripped up Hulk clothes, and that'd be crazy, right? That would be nuts. Yeah, who would do that? So it's all in the movie, Molly, I unshrunk the clothes, which is starting Rick O. Moranis, where he acts as a growth

rate to make the clothes bigger and everything's fine because it means they can wear them longer. You know, maybe that just be really stylish. I mean, I don't know. I'm kind of out of touch. I'm kind of a, I'm not, you know, young and hip as I used to be. Yeah, everyone's still wearing those baggy pants, right? Chain wallets. Yeah, you don't see a lot of that in the movie. A lot of chain wallets and baggy pants, right? Uh huh. Chain wallets. Yeah. Yeah, you see, you don't see a lot of that in the movie.

A lot of chain wallets and baggy pants, but maybe. Bowen shirts with flames on them. So so Dan, Emily Blunt, she's Rosemary. What's going on with her? Uh, well, her father is just passed away. We learned this, uh, Jamie Dorden and walkin are talking about her dad dying. He, he, he was the crow guy. The guy he likes to shoot crows and the mom.

Christopher walk in his Jamie Dornin's dad, right? Yes. And Emily Blossom mom comes in. She's worried about what's going to happen to Roots Mary. Now Dan, this is a total waste of time. But do you think if Christopher walk in was ever on the West Wing, that director Tommy Shlommey would have had him do a walkin talk it anyway continue uh... uh... thank you

it's a classic then it was a classic Tommy shlommie walkin talkin joe anyway continue you know i appreciate that you warned me ahead of time that was going to be a total waste of time because it did help me not go good i helped you process it that I was aware that I was wasting your time. So, they're worried about Rosemary who is outside smoking her dad's pipe. Yes. Because this is Ireland and she does not smoke a cigarette.

She smokes her dad's pipe. But, um, so, walkin' tells his son, Jamie Dorn, that he's maybe not going to get the farm when he dies. And the reason walkin' gives at this point is that he takes after his mother's side, he's more of a kelly, and the kellies were crazy, but we learn soon after that this is obviously all bullshit. He's actually concerned because Jamie doesn't seem to have any interest in marrying, having kids, like continuing the family line for the farm. And I'm like, why does why does Christopher walk and have to make up this bullshit

reason, rather than just say what he's thinking, although the whole movie, I guess the point of it is as it comes along that the Irish are all emotionally repressed. Yes. This, this, this is a movie where the only obstacle to any of them being happy is that they refuse to allow themselves to express emotions to each other until the last possible minute. Which maybe is Ireland, I've never been there. I'd love to go sometime.

It looks beautiful. Big fan of Irish food, big fan of Irish setters. I love the way they set. They dev a special way of setting in Ireland that they don't do in other countries. If you look like a Spanish setter or like a German setter or a Russian setter, they just don't set the same way that the Irish setters do.

But Dan, explain. I want you to get into the interesting stuff. Explain the frontage situation. The frontage? With the two farms. Yeah, that's pretty important. It's pretty, it's both desperately important to the plot and incredibly boring and has no impact on anything.

I'm gonna get there in just a second. Before that though, Jamie Dorn goes out and like they're hanging out, Hemway Blunt, and they have this exchange that I would like to say where Jamie goes, where do we go when we tie? The sky and Emily Blanco's the ground. And then Jamie Jordan says, then what's the sky for? Which is weird, it doesn't quite.

Well then she said, but then she says for now. That's the point they're trying to get at is that they should be living for now and enjoying the beauty of the world. But I also like that you didn't Irish accent for Jamie Dornin but not for Emily Blunt, which is an interesting choice. I just gave up on it. Where do we go? Where do we go when we die? Do we go to the sky? No. Then where do we go? The ground.

I will, I do want to say that what's the sky for? Just reminded me of the classic spies like us joke, what's a dick for for peeing. Anyway, so anyway, let's get to the weird driving element of the plot that doesn't make any sense at all. So Christopher Walken wants to buy back the entrance to his farm, the frontage, a word that I didn't know before Eliot said it, but where the gate is to his farm. It's his right of way. He's his farm cannot connect to the road.

Instead, there are these two gates that separate his property from this little patch of land that Rosemary's dad owned and gave to Rosemary. And now Rosemary owns it and Christopher walking wants to buy it so that his farm can go to the road and he doesn't have to deal with his damn gates anymore. And I'm like, hey man, look at what Christo did with the idea of gates. Gates can be really interesting and Bill Gates was one of the richest men in the world. So maybe don't look down your nose at gates, Mr. Christopher walking. And the gate was an influential horror, a Canadian horror movie.

Yeah, exactly. Won't Stephen Dorf's career. Yeah, but he's basically just annoyed that he has to frequently, because his Ireland get out of his car in the rain, open these damn gates to get into his own property. But the thing is Rosemary owns this land, because her dad gave it to her when she was 10, because that's where Jamie Dornan pushed her down.

And so this is some weird, like, spite, but also romantic, I don't know, like, statement. I don't really like it. It's a, she has, has made, it's sacred ground to her maybe because it's where he touched her when he pushed her. But she has a, she has a long-running, unrequited passion for him that verge is unstalking by that point. So we see her watching Jamie Dornan the next morning. He's floating now the river and some kind of bucket raft and he's swatting at bugs with an orr.

And blood is like. He's doing his best to look like the guy on the cover of flood by they might be giants. Blunt is watching him like totally besotted while she's still being like, what's this guy's deal? And here's the thing, like the movie tries to make out like Jamie Dornin is acting very strange the entire film.

And we do learn that he has a strange secret at the end, but I'm watching it be like, I guess he's a little weird. Like he doesn't seem to be doing anything that odd, but everyone around him acts like he is the nuttiest guy in the world. He's just kind of a clumsy goofball who can't really, he's not super articulate, but everyone acts like he's a madman, you know.

Dan, you should also mention, she spent all night looking for her runaway horse, right? Because she has rosemary as this horse that keeps breaking out of the pen, almost like a visual representation of her unrequited passion. But that would be crazy. But that would be too obvious.

Who would do such a thing? Do you think Jamie Dornin was like, okay, I gotta be wacky in this scene. I'll part my hair slightly differently. Yeah. So the two of them chat and he's like, this farm is a prison, but there's a green field of the animals living off of them. And so he like doesn't like to be a farmer, but he loves it too.

And he tells her to sell her farm and leave Ireland because it's no place for a decent person and I don't understand. There's another thing throughout the movie is like trying to get her to get off this island and I don't get what his deal is. So Dan, I'm gonna, oh wait, you say what you're gonna say and I want to step in with my explanation and let's see if it's true. Part of this movie that, like, you say that you don't understand why I thought it was so such a corker.

I like, it does mostly all come at the, during the last like half hour, but also throughout the movie, I'm just like, no one acts like this, there's no one in this, like later on, there's one person in the movie who acts like a human being that I could recognize, but like the movie does not make everyone's emotional motivations very clear. And in one case, that's like leaning up to the surprise, but just in general, like I had a hard time understanding like people's relationships, why they were doing the things they were doing,

like, why they cared so much about the things they cared about. Because the movie is like, how much time has passed at different points? It's very unclear. It's very unclear. Yeah, what era we're in, what time is pet, like, it's the Ireland of the 1950s, but they have modern cars. But it is a, the reason that I didn't find it

for purpose, it's a very slow movie. It's a very slow movie. But also, the characters are such folk Irish cartoons, in a way that, the characters, they don't do realistic things, they do the things that someone, and again, as commercial would do, where like a waking-net-divine-type movie would do or something like that.

But if waking-net-divine-type movie would do or something like that. But if waking-net-divine was written by someone who desperately wanted to be like Neil McDonough or something like that. And it's a, but there's a glimpse of a really good movie in this about depression. And about characters who are struggling with depression and feel like they are not capable of loving or being loved or even of enjoying the things they genuinely enjoy because of this, like, hereditary depression that they can't control and they don't really understand. That's not this movie. This movie keeps hinting at that. Like Christopher Walken later will get to give the speech where he's basically saying, I suffered with crippling depression and then it was lifted from me someday and I became a better person but instead it becomes kind of an Irish mysticism

thing of a song on the wind, you know, but it's like I think that I think would have made this movie into something more understandable and believable. But instead it's just a very slow movie where it's like, you know what, basically she keeps saying, hey I like you and he's like, I'm going to refuse to, I'm going to refuse to understand that. And she's like, hey, I like you. And he's like, I'm gonna refuse to understand that. And she's like, okay, well, then I'll tell you something else that tells you that I like you. And he's like, well, that's impossible. So I'll just keep doing this.

And everyone is like, look at that crazy person. Oh, he's the eccentric of the moors or whatever it is. Dan, do they have moors in Ireland? I've never been there. Yeah, yeah. But the only offends, do they offends or moors? What about bogs? Yeah, yeah. Only a fence. Do they have fends or moors? What about bogs? Yeah, what about bogs?

Wait, are fends and moors, is that a, are those synonyms but moors are just in Scotland? I think that they are. I don't know what, I don't know what a fan is. Well, Sheryl and fan, I'm familiar with. What about, what about, what about, what about shires? Now do they have shires there or is that just a hobbit? Oh, yeah, no everybody has those now when they say the

Is a marsher a bog so very much not a more a more is a more is flatland With like scrub on it. Yeah. Yeah, now like a deep often DVD copies of scrubs the hit TV show Okay, so Jamie, do they have a lot of big waterfalls, Ireland, like 50, 100, 200 foot tall waterfalls? I think they have some waterfalls. I don't think it's like Iceland where their waterfalls all over the place. Have a deserts. Like are there any like big deserts or like desert canyons? I don't think so. I mean, unless they've got some permafrost and it's like a technically a desert or something. Okay, what about like a volcano? We're like a plateau.

Jamie Dornin, uh, carefully takes a B outside and again, something that only becomes significant later won't spoil it yet. But we were watching it like, is this like a save the cat scenario? Like we know that he's good because he saves this B. You think in the stage production, they had a person in a B costume on stage, Jimmy Dork, and they got the giant phone or hand still on the-

If in the blind melon video. Yeah, they got the girl from the blind melon video. And that was when she stepped on stage, the audience melon video. Yeah, they got the girl from the blind melon video. And that was when she stepped on stage, the audience went nuts. Like there's one of those things where they get applause just for appearing, you know? Oh man. Now, Dan, when you say it's a save the cat scenario,

I've never knew that the save the cat screenplay method was make you're here a likable by having them save a cat at the beginning of the movie. Is that what you're saying? It means? I believe that's what it means. Are you not? Yeah, that you that you should that you should always have someone save a cat.

Well, not literally a cat, but like show something like that early on to like get you sympathetic with them. Well, how come I've never seen a movie where someone saves a cat at the beginning? Yeah, save the cat is the screenwriting rule that says the hero has to do something when we meet him so that we like him and want him to win. So, you know, it's like the long goodbye, long goodbye saves a cat, right? Yeah, inside Lewin Davis is all about trying to say that. I mean, that's where the whole, I wonder if that's when the co-in brothers were like,

we got to really learn how to write screenplays. We got to read this book. I wonder if that is the joke is that right. What is that right. Did I remember the long goodbye. Correct. I don't remember. There is a cat right.

He goes out. The cat is fussy. It only is a certain kind of food. I think the cat ran away then because the bad food. Can we get back now? No, I didn't wait. And Batman returns the cat saved the shell fifer. so why are the cats not the heroes of the movie actually good point good point good point and in wonder woman 1984

christian wigs character is a sheet a person that's kind of a cat so maybe gal good does the hero because she saved christian dog is the hero. She is the titular wonder woman. Can we? Dan, Dan, you can talk about her performance with that talking about her body. Thank you very much. Okay.

Very, very. Very, very wonder woman. Again, Dan, please. In appropriate. So Christopher walking gets a letter from his nephew in America. He doesn't want to read it in front of Jamie Dornan There's a blow up. We don't know what it's about yet Maybe his readers are really weird looking and that's why I didn't want to read the letter in front of him his

Yeah, his reading glasses. I've never heard them refer to that. I'm learning a lot of Trinoget old people. Yeah, I got leaders save the cat fan. This is a very educational episode for me. Jamie Dornan So, save the cat, Finn. This is a very educational episode for me. Jamie Dornet practices asking Emily to marry him, Rosemary Emily, to a donkey. He's practicing, to a donkey is saying these words to a donkey. He kneels in front of the donkey to ask, and this old dude named Cleary is peeking over the wall

like the Simpsons where where Mr. Burns tries the pacifier and the pop-pots so this goes what a scoop. He goes, man, a donkey, are you you are mad and clearly I guess is the guy who goes around telling bad news to everyone because he tells him, uh huh, Dornin that the farm is being sold to walk in his nephew. And then he runs off and Jamie Dornin chases him around because he's like, don't tell anyone about the donkey. Oh, can't put that genie back in the bottle. So. And I don't know at this point, like really what is

keeping these two fuckers apart. Cause I'm like, well, which fuckers are you talking about? Cleary and, and Jamie Dornan? Because he hates it. Because he's a gossipy old man selling people isn't love with the doggy. This is not my slashfick. This is, I'm just saying our leads, Jamie and Emily Blunt, like, like, clearly he likes her at this point. Yeah.

So just do it. Like if he's willing to... Well, I think, I mean, Elliot brought it up before, but they both suffer from crippling depression and also narrative requirements. Yes, they suffer from crippling narrative requirements, which is the real issue. Now, I was saying to, I was talking to,

so my wife watched the beginning of this movie with me and then about 30 minutes in, she said, I don't wanna watch any more of this. So I watched the rest of my myself. But she was, I was talking to her and I was saying, a really well done romance. You know that they're gonna end up together and they're so obviously meant for each other

that each time an obstacle gets in their path, it frustrates you and you're like, come on, no, no, no, you gotta do this. So by the time they overcome the obstacles, whether they're internal or external, you're like, yes, you did it. Here, like you're saying, Dan, there are almost no obstacles. So it's very, it's this weird, it's almost like a like a break-de-en experiment

in distancing the audience from caring about these people because their problems are so invisible and you don't know what's why or what's going on. It's very confusing. So I assumed going in that this was gonna be about two feuding families and they hate each other and that's why they're arguing but no their parents get along great well i also thought i mean you know you see john ham and the uh... in the

poster you think this is going to be a love triangle he figures in uh... it insignificant but small ways um... anyway now that is it ironic that john ham is the least handy performer in the entire movie that he actually gets the most subdued performance of anyone in the film. I mean, it's kind of offset by the fact that the first scene or the first modern scene is Christopher Walken taking a ham from a widow. So that's true. Oh, there's so much symbolism in this movie.

You know what? I forgot. It's a rich stew. It's a rich mulligatani stew of ideas, themes, and symbols. And I love it now. So Blunt is mad at walkin' that he's selling the farm to his nephew. And she's like, hey, he'll smarten up and marry me eventually. And again, I'm like, what the fuck's keeping these people apart?

Doran's like, oh, it's fine if the farm gets sold. And he's at the bar, and a woman comes up to him and meanwhile blunt and her mom and walking on a different bar where there's old Irish music playing. There they call them pubs. Yeah pubs there are the pubs sorry. Blunt sings a song that Christopher walked in this wife used to sing that the titular wild mountain time again, Dan

There is no reason to comment on her appearance or her body During this. That's just this is singing. It's a singing thing. There's no reason. Yeah, and she has a lovely voice She's been musicals before Emily Blunt into the woods Mary pop it like lived live die repeat Live die repeat now see what what would be some of the song titles repeat I don't know there's the back again you're I am I'm not dead hey there's Tom Cruise oh look at those aliens watch out for the aliens here I am right where I belong that's from it right that's from the dyrepeath and musical now What what what would his I want song be? Oh?

That's true. I That's that's I Stop stop killing me so many times. That was the name of the song. Okay So this is what there are a few moments that I found Genuinely moving in this movie. This was one of them Christopher walkin watching and we'll be blunt sing this song. There's a few moments that I found genuinely moving in this movie. This was one of them, Christopher Walken watching Emily Blunt sing this song that is wife used to sing. And we see the woman and Dornan are climbing over a wall for some reason.

And she's like, I'll never see you again, right? And so again, she confesses her worst secret that she slept with the priest. And Jamie Dornan whispers his secret uh... or into her ear and she falls off the wall it is such a shocking or funny secret and she's laughing while she was laughing with it they were they were drunkenly sneaking over a cemetery wall in bright daylight because they've been out all night just wandering around ice against drunk So Jamie's going to the airport to pick up the nephew who's gonna buy the farm and lo and behold it's John Ham

He has Irish father or there at the airport John Ham You got to feel bad for the actor plays the Irish father because he's barely appears in the movie He kind of disappears and and evaporates into thin air and no one ever mentions him again yeah yeah and he uh... so they go to the farm john ham shows up a little behind everyone else in a fancy car yeah he's like a slick willy american american guy right yeah this puts well i put storming off a little bit that he's like this city slicker, but

this, but as we will see, he's also very direct. Well, yeah, as we will see John Ham is to my mind, the only reasonable person in this movie. But we'll get to it. And Ham gives him a white raincoat, which is, I guess, a ridiculous, because it's just going to get stained. I didn't quite understand what it was. I mean, it also looks ridiculous. It's kind of ridiculous. Oh, Dan, I have to correct.

Earlier, I said, I referred to Neil McDonough when I met Martin McDonough. That was the player I was talking about. Neil McDonough is blue-eyed bad guy. Is the blue-eyed bad guy actor? But I was talking about Martin. It still looks like a husky dog. He does look like a husky dog.

Yeah, that's true. Oh man. Dornan is... The data sees keep evolving, Dan, thank you. Well, you have to assume that if he was an animal, if that's what he would turn into, right? Yeah, of course. Oh man, when's the Neil McDonough animal book then?

Got it. So Dornan is wandering the field in his new white ringcoat using a metal detector like he's some sort of detectorist and john ham and then we want look at him like he's again uh... some sort of wacky character when he's you know acting fairly normal

and i mean i wouldn't say it's necessarily normal but it's not necessarily wacky yeah it falls on that range between at look have i ever walked around in a white raincoat with a nettle detector in Ireland? No, but if I saw someone doing it I wouldn't be like lock him up get the men with the butterfly nets. Oh look what he's doing. Oh faith and baguara Oh, you might rabbit. You might and those are all my Irish voices Yeah, you wouldn't like pull out your phone and take a pic so you can like meme the hell out of it. No So ham is a very straightforward with blunt.

He's like, he wants to hurt his cell, her land to him, and like, I am, I am almost immediately on John Ham side in, in all of his scenes, because he's like the only direct human being in the movie. Well, you would feel that way Dan being an abrasive hostile American who just got straight to the point. you would feel that way Dan being an abrasive hostile American who just got straight to the point instead of living in the in the negative capability you might say and the ambiguous beauty that God above it that Jay Jesus provides for us on this beautiful earth where you get your mixture of happiness and sadness you got your smiles and your tears but in the end I guess what matters the most

is family and knowing that family will never never tell you how they really feel about you. I just actually guys, I just got an alert on Twitter. It says that Ireland has just changed its travel restrictions, not COVID related surprisingly. It says Elliot Kaylen not allowed. What? Said accent worse than wild mountain time. No, he comes into the movie and I'm like, oh, okay, a rational guy,

because he's immediately, like, this is not a literal line, but it's pretty close to the spirit of it. Just like, what the fuck is it with you people in this gate? And why are you waiting for this doofus to come around? Well, here's the thing, he's a mostly rational character except for the fact that there's no reason for him to want to buy a farm in Ireland.

It is. Well, we'll learn later on that that his dream is to become an Irish farmer. So maybe he's not as rational as he claims. Like that is how like the movie sort of undercuts his position a little bit. But I mean it's either that or like start a brewery or like a fucking tech company or something right? I mean, he maybe that's it is that he has a company and he wants to cut what's what reverse, whatever it's called, where you buy a company. He buys that farm in Ireland.

Now the farm in Ireland is technically the corporate headquarters for his business and he's at the Irish tax rate. That's exactly what it is. Dan, he's just dressing up vulture capitalism as a romantic vision of the Emerald Isle and John Hamm, you should be ashamed of yourself okay so it's gonna turn into like i mean the skyland but it's going to turn into

more of a local hero's sort of situation uh... i mean i know mine is much more negative than that in in scotland they learn a lesson in in local hero in this one it's just gonna be more bad news for american taxpayers i'm illicit kaolin it's about time we stopped all these companies going to irland and that's why i think uh... maybe i should just go to irland and stop the companies from walking I'm Elliot Kaelin. It's about time we stopped all these companies going to Ireland and that's why I think, maybe I should just go to Ireland and stop the companies from walking in.

Ireland, you need me. Anyway, that's my argument. Let me in, please. Have we all been to Ireland? No, I just told you. I've never, I told you earlier that it's my favorite. Oh, I thought you've been to Scotland, Ellie. That's what I was thinking.

I've been to Scotland multiple times. I love Scotland. It's my second favorite country on earth after my beloved United States of America. But I'd love to go to Ireland today. But, you know, I guess I'm more Scottish at heart. Maybe when they live there restriction, but I don't know.

You seem to be digging yourself deeper. Yeah, I don't know. Maybe, I mean, and also there was that time when I beat up the lucky charms leprechaun, but that was over at misunderstanding. I thought he was somebody else. It was dark. You thought he was the evil leprechaun from the leprechaun movies that was over a misunderstanding i thought he was somebody else it was dark you thought he was the evil leprechaun from leprechaun movies

as well beat him up with the chants not realizing that it was the real leprechaun from leprechaun movies he could just magic himself away from your attacks i know i was thinking and it's partly because i just eaten a bowl of what i thought was lucky charm syrup was actually magic cereal magic that by the evil leprechaun and i really thrown off my perceptions so yes if the leprechaun from leprechaun movies was a fighting game character for instance right Dan He would he'd be more of a zoner it would all be about teleport attacks and like range attacks as opposed to like Beat down and brawling. What do you think now? I bet you the lucky charms leprechaun be one of those characters that throws a lot of stuff Like they have what I'm saying. He's also a zoner. There's not so physically powerful

But they have it and they've like a big combo that throws a lot of things at you a lot of marshmallows. Yeah, like a mega ultra combo. I don't know how accurate this is because it is, you know, on one hand, just something that someone wrote on the internet. On the other hand's the people contributing to the Lepricon wiki. And the claim over there is that it is not the same Lepricon in all the Lepricon movies, which makes sense, because he just gets blown up and stuff a lot and no one ever, there's never seen where he comes back together and they're like, oh, he's a Jason style character who gets hit by lightning

when Tommy Jarvis or whatever his name is tries to dig him up. Yeah. I mean, I want to give, I think in the, in the most recent Lepurcan movie, I think they do, it is the same Lepurcan as in the first one, but yeah, you're right. There's no like, he's not like some kind of a phoenix that keeps rising from the ashes. They don't address that. It makes sense. Yeah.

No, I want to see the scene. I want to see the whole log scene where it's like it's like the beginning of the taken sequel where it's like they killed our leprechaun. Now we need to get revenge. Send another leprechaun after them. Yeah. Yeah. But once he's in space, I guess it's all non canonical.

It's certain. Right. They just introduce him being in space like he's like trying to marry the space princess, and you don't know how he got there, like whether leprechauns are just like across the universe, every planet has a leprechaun, who knows? Julie Tamor. Anyway.

So. That was a Julie Tamor across the universe reference. Look, we're almost there. We can mention Titus and Fools Fire. I think we'll be pretty far along in our Julie Teymour Bingo Curry. So there's a scene that doesn't really amount to much where Hammond, Dornan, pick mushrooms. And we blunt some mom, go to the hospital. They don't take mushrooms.

That would be an interesting scene that might bring us in a new direction. They're just picking mushrooms. And then I think is that when they also feed some cows. Yeah, it would also explain their behavior. Yeah I don't understand you people you never come straight to the point. Oh, well, we're highest balls all the time We're always tripping like crazy on these rooms here in the Emerald Island. Oh, yes. Oh, well that would explain a lot. Yeah Yeah, so Mother Blunt gets taken to the hospital and the waiting room walk and

tells John Hamm he can't sell him the farm because he doesn't want to tear Rose Mary and whatever the fuck his name is apart. And it's absolutely dude you just made this guy fly to Ireland. And I like psych. But Dan, his action is clearly motivated by something that happened off camera and is never mentioned. So we have to assume something powerful. The same way that later in the movie, he and Dornin have a emotional moment

that is again motivated by nothing. And I guess that is something, if you try to untangle the dynamics of this, it is mainly about Christopher Walken being a man with some sort of dementia that causes him to change personality from scene to scene and everybody just dealing with that, maybe. Yeah. So Blunt is crying in church.

We got to her. Her mom is dead. A little time passes. Christopher Walken is now older. He needs an oxygen tank to breathe. He's dying and he's finally saying I will leave the farm to you but then he He tells his monologue where he's like I never loved your mother. I was just lonely So I thought you know good enough. I'll I'll marry her to not be lonely

but eventually one day Sort of love came on him all in a rush when he was out in the field You know, he starts singing a song that she sings the wild mountain times song Like it all it all she realizes that he has come to love her and he goes and he sells the right away of his form to buy her a real gold wedding ring to replace the brass one. And Stuart's snickering, but I gotta say, this is one of the few times,

like this is another one of the scenes that I genuinely found moving. I think that part of it is just personal. Like, this is not the same situation. Like, I don't remember when you sold the right of way of your from your farm to buy a ring. I was like, don't do it, Dan, you're gonna regret it. You can, I'll lend you the money to buy the ring.

Yeah. This is not the same situation. Walkins is a little sadder, but like, you know, like in my life, Audrey and I dated, I sort of cut things off too quickly because I was like, oh, you know, like I don't know right away how I feel. But then we became very close friends and then over time I realized, oh wait, I've fallen for her. And like the idea of this sort of more closed off man like through the course of building this life You know sort of having this come on him in a rush like like the the fog of sadness lifting from him Like I found this all very kind of Moving

So I I agree with you. I think the like I think I appreciate the sentiment Yeah, but there is something it was just it was tough for me to take the scene seriously because Christopher Walken's line delivery, like I feel like his, his dialect coach was just watching the whole time be like, what the fuck? You have to, you have to look past his accent to enjoy any part of his performance. Once you, like, ignore his accent, his acting enjoy any part of his performance? Once you ignore his accent, his acting is like Christopher Walken great. It's like, you love Christopher Walken. Yeah, I think in this-

It's that boy's limb. This scene in a better movie could have been a very powerful scene for me. I appreciate that you connect to it personally. Now would it make you feel different if the song that his wife used to sing that he started singing the field was hot for teacher? Would that make it anything?

Yes, you know I went to Tush, but it's easy to. Okay, yeah, could be, yeah. My wedding song. So, oh yeah, and before Chris Rilocken does pass away, he apologizes to his son for threatening to take the farm. They have a sort of reconciliation. I mean, they were never like really like super at odds, but this was obviously like a big deal.

They were never, they were almost never at odds at all, but they were just kind of bickering, but this is the, this is the kind of scene that you see a lot of Irish dramas, where it's the deathbed admission of love, where it's like, now that I'm dying and I don't have to deal with the shame of you knowing that I love you, I can tell you that I love you.

But then Christopher Wacken kind of dies screen it or he just kind of disappears characters just kind of disappear from this movie yeah when when the film is done with them. Well that's the wild mountain time you know take take some away. So the movie would made more sense to me if at the end they revealed that it was a simulation aliens had designed for the last three surviving humans who happened to be from Ireland and the aliens only knew what they knew from movies Set in Ireland and they were like hopefully this make will be comfortable for them. We're experimenting with how they deal with these things, you know? So Dorn and Blunt have kind of like, you know, they're they're patented

Emotionally repressed lately like sort of circling one another romantically. Very hard to get a patent on that because you have to show that it's something that has at least one element that has never been created before. Yeah, it's his hair, Jamie Doran's hair. Oh, that was it really. I gotta say, there's a tradition of, you know, great, you know, tweeds and sweaters and like, you know, like getting a good quality piece of clothing and like keeping it and mending it. And like, like, that is a bigger thing I feel over in the United Kingdom and in Ireland. But it, uh, all of the people's clothes are too good. This movie, I know.

Like, they're all beautiful. Like, this is like a catalog of like clothes you would get in Ireland and none of them are dirty ever. Even though they talk about farm, there's a part where John Hamm is like, to a bystander is like, you know I'm not an Irish farmer and she goes, well, your hands don't look like feet and it's like Jamie Dornan is beautiful.

Yeah, he looks incredible. It looks amazing. Like, and he's the guy who's. And it's like Jamie Dornan is beautiful. Yeah, he looks incredible. He looks amazing. Like, and he's the guy who's supposed to be working the farm. There's a lot of, let's call it unrealistic appearance in this movie. But again, Dan, we don't need to talk about their appearances. That's inappropriate.

Okay. And it's not okay. There's this talk that Dornan Blunt have. And at one point, he weirdly was like, what's a man's place in this new world? And I'm like, you're like a mince right? Sky, what is this? Yeah, chill out, dude.

It really feels like he's trying out monologues to see if any of them attach to the movie. Like, no, that one didn't take. Okay, cast it aside. What if I talk about, what if I talk about the beauty of the grass? Okay, yeah, it seems to be that, nope, nope, the antibodies from the movie are rejecting it again. Okay, let's try another one. note the antibodies from the movie are rejecting it again. Okay, let's try another one. So, Rosemary is pretty reasonably like,

why aren't we together already again? And Dornin has this talk about like dreaming of everyone in the world and like being in the front of a parade and sounds like the end of like a Fellini movie. It's like, he's describing, yeah, he's either describing the end of eight and a half or he is ripping off some of the stuff from our town.

It's a very thwart and wildery type of speech. You know, that doesn't, what do you like, what are you, what, like what is this, like where did you come from with this? He's a, that was one of the few moments where I was like, oh, maybe he is just a weirdo. Maybe he is a weirdo. Rosemary, stop bothering with him. Yeah, and they don't see each other that much. So it is one of those things that he's probably

like been thinking about for a while and this weird conversation. And then all of a sudden he's like, finally a human being I can talk to. And he tells this long story and she's like, what? I thought we were just like, thought we were just like saying hello.

But yeah. This would have been a better movie if every time someone had like a little monologue, the other person went, what? What? What? What? So, so he tells her maybe she should leave Ireland again

and I have no idea why, but he leaves and she's like, wait, maybe I will leave Ireland and we see a bunch of crows. And she puts Swan Lake on the record player. And she dons a white dress that she does kind of a weird dance around the front of her house. She goes into like a Swan Lake trance and dances at her house.

And at this point, I always say. And she's not dancing at Luganza. That's a different thing. That's a different play. Yeah, different play. It's not that. think isn't loona saw i don't know if you know that she's also not she's not dancing at the blue aghana also something very different she's not a little bit wanna at all

so she's dancing around in this white dress at which point oddry says if she flies all fucking lose it uh... i would have loved that but it means she does fly in a plane but what she just lifted into the air. Audrey came around. She's like, once we saw the end of the movie, she's like, no, she should have fly. And I agree. Like, what you see in this movie, you're like, okay, like there needed to be a lot more like sort of like

weird, almost magical realism sprinkled in from the beginning to like key you into the tone of what they're trying to do. But I mean, this, this movie is, it's weirdly like watching someone, like someone is, do you want, trying it, is doing like this Irish romantic drama, but there's like a Jupiter ascending underneath it that's trying to crack out at different moments. And it's like, oh, let that Jupiter ascending out.

Like this should be a, this should be a weird movie, but instead it's not a weird movie. Yeah, so they fade from like her dancing to swans flying and then an airplane flying. And we've lots of people. Which is how it evolved. That's swans evolved into airplanes. Just like in 2001, he throws that bone up in the air

and it turns into a space station. Do you ever worry that it's actually, those things are actually having concurrently and the bone is gonna fly up and hit the space station and knock it out of the sky? Well, no, I don't think that ape can throw it into orbit. Wait a minute. That bone turns into a space station? Well, not literally. Actually, yes. I assume there was a sequence where the bone got longer and longer and longer and bigger until it turned into a space station. But if the swans, I mean, because over time swans, they lost their feathers and gained co-pilots. And that's how

plans are born. They evolved the black box. Yeah, exactly. Well, why didn't they evolve to make the whole plane out of the black box? Anyway, guys, what happens next? Okay, well she's in New York hanging with John Hamm and it's revealed she's only there for one day She asked Hamm to take her to the ballet and when she's at the ballet, which is I presume Swanley I mean, I don't want to see all of New York right one day. I mean if you're about as this ballet I mean if you're real six weeks If you're deadly more and Maritalin more that's all you need to see yeah, and now here

This is so this is this was the most shameless, or should I say, shaneless part of the movie to me, because in Moonstruck there's the scene where sheer is watching the opera and it connects with her. And it leads to an epiphany. And here it's like, this woman's gonna see the ballet, and it's gonna help lead to an epiphany.

And it's like, come on, dude, like don't redo your old stuff, you know, anyway. So she envies herself as a child Come on, dude. Don't redo your old stuff, you know? Anyway. She envies herself as a child on stage dancing with a ballerina. And Ham has a look at her that like later on you learned is supposed to be like admiring, but I took it as like, was with this lady in this ballet. That's kind of what it looked like. It was like he was like, he was about to ask her if she wanted to leave

because it was boring and then saw she was really caught up and it was like, oh, oh, oh, how do I deal with this? So there, how long can I, how long can she believe that I'm using the bathroom for if I just leave and come back when this is over? So they're lingering over some after dinner drinks later and Ham is sort of like, you know, indicating that he's interested in her, but not like super like overplaying it or anything. And she's

like talking about the ballet saying, I'm the white swan in the ballet. And John Ham says, look, you can't let romantic ideals ruin your life. You have to be at least a little realistic. And I'm like, yeah, man. he's sharing his fucking farmers only profile with us yeah and uh... but he's basically given he's giving her similar to speech it's a similar speech to what uh... the hero of zootopia gets at the beginning where her parents are like you just got a settle dreams are only lead to failure yeah well and we've been in this movie like has been like

fought like like like chasing this guy all of her life and it's only brought her misery like at this point John Hams like hey be a little more realistic is a very sensible. Oh No, I think I think it's okay for him to say that guy's not into you You got to deal with it But to then say dreams are for losers and reality is, you gotta lose those dreams. No, no, no, I love the next thing that he says. She says that, have you ever had like a dream, like I have a dream since a kid that I just can't shake.

And John Ham says, the kinds of dreams kids have make adults miserable. And I thought, yes, you're a right shun. It's a good line, yeah, it's a good line. It's a good line that my life is a direct rebuttal of. So anyway, because I've achieved so many of the things I had about it. Yeah, you fucking achieved them,

but if you hang on to the sort of kids, kids are not smart enough to like, know what they want. Like she seems to have fixated on something for her entire life. Anyway, in your name. Considering one of my sons wants to be a baby snake. Yeah, I think you're right.

Now, would it have been better if after I saw it, she said, I'm the white swan. Me, the white swan, and tried to fly. And she turned into like kind of a crazy supervillain type. That would be amazing. Like he says in the article, that she comes out as the white swan and she's committing swan-related crimes,

of which there are not that many. Guys real quick. Uh, what exact kind of snake does your son want to be a baby of? Now, at this point, we don't know for sure some kind of constructor. Oh, cool. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

I mean, they're, they're pretty cool. I mean, you could keep him as a pet theoretically. Unlike, unlike a venomous snake, which I mean, when a snake or a pet, snake or no, when he's 18, he is out of the house. Okay, that means I will have done my time. My wild mountain time. Continue then. So later on at night, John Hamm and she are walking on the waterfront and he kisses her and she says, oh my God, all the way back to Ireland. You see her on the plane, still saying, oh my God, and you see Dornan in his house and Ham calls him

and based on Jamie's reaction, the message is basically, sorry, you snost and you lost. I am coming back to Ireland. I am looking for romance and Jamie Dorn knows just what that means. He says, I've got a little transatlantic booty call going on. So hey, you think Rosemary's up because I'm about to get on a plane. So I can tap that and he goes, please don't talk about her that way. That is inappropriate.

And he's like, I'm a straight talking American and I say what I'm going to do. I'm going to get on a plane. I'm going to go over there. I'm going to have sex with her. Probably ask her to marry me. Then I'm going to buy your, and I say what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna get on a plane. I'm gonna go over there. I'm gonna have sex with her. Probably ask her to marry me. Then I'm gonna buy your farm. What are you gonna do about it? And he's like, didn't my dad tell you earlier

he wouldn't sell you the farm? And he's like, I don't know, I forgot to. This movie's so boring. I can't remember what happened to me. From one thing, I just had to sit through the, through the ballet. We were walking around. Maybe it was a Hudson Yards part of the city,

which I don't, it doesn't feel like the real New York city, you know, for an old,old New York hand like me. And Jamie Dorn is like, this seems like we're not talking about the movie anymore. And John Hamms, I just think the city's changing. That's why I wanna go to Ireland, an eternal place. That's always 1947 to 1957. Terninog, yeah.

Yeah, exactly. Now, Terninog sounds like a Tolkien bad guy, but is not, right? No, it's not. No, it's a thing. So here's where the movie gets kind of, yeah, again, sort of more magical realism. They're both back at home at their places in Ireland. It's stormy. There's a bunch of crows flying around and like, it seems like maybe she's calling Anthony telepathically, you hear her whispering his name

on the soundtrack and the wind is blowing and she goes out on her horse across the mors and finds him out, metal detecting in a storm which seems like a really bad idea to have a long metal thing that you were in. Just follow the lightning dude and to be looking for more metal yeah yeah so and meanwhile and the the quickest way to get your going is to ride the lightning honestly yeah yeah and

meanwhile during this whole next sequence I'm not gonna mention every time they cut back to him but John Hamm is on a plane he's reading Irish farmer and a lady next to him points out hey you, you don't look like a farmer. You look like John Hamm. And anyway, so that's his deal. He wants to marry an Irish lady. Now, now, now, now this is is borrowing a primal card in that they're using his magazine choice to tell us a little bit about it. Yeah.

In this case, Irish farmer magazine, as opposed to John Nicholas Cage of primal, who's reading real estate magazine. Yeah. Yeah. as opposed to John Nicholas Cage of Primal who's reading Real Estate magazine. Yeah, yeah. So they return to Rosemary's house and he's doing something with the shutters of the windows. I don't quite understand. She asked him to close the shutters

because there's gonna be a storm. I know, but she asked him to really know. Actually, no, she asked him to open the shutters and he's confused about why it's working. Yeah, that's, she is, I think what it is, is that she is kooky. Yeah, that's he's can she is I think what it is is that she is cookie. Yeah. Okay, so the sky's open up above him. Lot of rain. He starts getting rained on. He bangs of the door to get let in and Emily lets a man she's kind of bad during him. Like lightly romantically humming swam Lake

and she's like why are you always metal detecting And they have some Guinness while he's stuck there, which is what she wants. She wants them stuck there by the storm, so she can finally hash this out. He's stuck there long enough that she serves him two Guinnesses. And it was like, oh boy, this is too long a scene. If he can have two drinks during it with a fair amount of time in between drinks.

Like... She makes him a sandwich at 1.2, right? Yeah, and she makes him a sandwich. Yeah, and there's a fair amount of time in between drinks. She makes a masona at one point too, right? Yeah, and she makes a masona too. Yeah, and there's a fair amount of them talking kind of nonsense about men and women that doesn't really make sense. And that's when I started to realize, when they're talking nonsense about men and women,

this movie is to moon struck as deadwood is to John from Cincinnati, where it's kind of like similar parts that have been assembled in a form that doesn't quite work. And it made me really want to, it made me really want to go back and watch Deadwood again. So guys, should we watch Deadwood now? Sure, why not?

So there's like a weird, like kind of depressing part where Doran says it's a great day to commit suicide and Emily's like, oh, by the way, I have a loaded shotgun on the closet because I think about killing myself frequently. And I, that's a check-off shotgun, right? It shows up later in the movie. I don't think so.

Anyway, I'm just fucked up with you. I kind of like that. It's a check-offs not gun, which is another thing that people talk about. Well, you don't actually see the gun, and it never gets used, but you'd know it's there for a moment. Yeah. And I kind of like this scene too because finally they're actually talking, like there's some emotions bubbling beneath, like they're still repressed,

but the rest of the movie goes too far in the repression where I can't see what's going on underneath the surface. And here at least it's like, okay, I can tell that they're like wary of one another, but I can tell that they're like wary of one another but I can also see what I'm supposed to be thinking about it. But Dornin says, ham's coming in town to seek a wife and he says maybe someone like you I was thinking I might let him take a look at you and you're like what? Because it gets like really regressive in the gender stuff here for a little bit. She asked some whether he's gay whether that's what's going on.

She says that a man shouldn't smell like lilies. The movie is just spinning out possible things that could happen and then don't happen. The movie is run out of, is trying to get back on track really fast and is really slow. Yeah, and she finally like is just straight up basically saying like why haven't you come for me?

What's going on? I quit smoking for you because I thought you didn't like smoke I went to New York City and I kissed Your cousin or whatever you assume because I thought you wanted me to kiss your cousin So yeah, and does that turn you on is that it that you like cucking? Is that what it is that you want me to be with your cousin while you watch and he's like? Oh, I didn't think I could tell you but that's yeah, that's what does it for me. Please don't judge. It's I can't control this in Jordan place and she's like, okay, I understand you and I love you so I'm going to make it work and it's really open-minded. No, I mean the movie is very open-minded, but it turns out that his deal is the big twist of the movie, the secret that's been keeping them apart is that Anthony thinks that he is a honeybee. You do not just have a stroke or fall asleep. No, I didn't

know the movie is about a man who believes himself to be a honeybee. And that is what has been keeping our lovers apart for so long. And that's when you go back and you remember all the behavior that he was doing that would typify a honeybee, like using a metal detector, fishing, speaking English out loud to his human family members, drinking Guinness, wearing a raincoat, driving a car. So you're like, oh, it all makes sense. Finally, all the clues have all been in place. Kaiser Soze was a bee the whole time. So I feel like if this movie had gone back

and actually tried to show us some of the clues, we would have given it a raft of shit for it. Like any time a movie does like, oh, let's flash back to two minutes ago when this person did this one thing. So the movie doesn't even do that, so it feels even more random and strange. Yeah, and I've forgotten a bunch of the shit

that you guys mentioned before, like the pollen and whatever else. I love this though, like honestly, only something this dramatic and strange would have justified the rest of the movie to me Like why they were like and it is a I think it is a very well-actual scene on Emily Bluntz part because you know She before this revelation she says I've gained out every scenario. There's nothing you can say to me right now That it's gonna like upset me or not make me want you and then he says I think I'm a bee and

like upset me or not make me want you. And then he says, I think I'm a B. And you see her, like she drives him a home now, and she's driving, and she's kind of like talking a mile a minute, and she's like, you think you're a B? You think you're a B? And you see her processing this, but she's like, ultimately she comes to, hey look, we all think we're something.

You know, it is a message of acceptance. She like, you know, he's a, he's a different person. It's also easy to accept that he thinks he's a bee since like, again, he never does anything be like or in any way. He's just kind of like a clumsy guy. Hell yeah. He, he lives in apartment 23 and you should not trust him. You're right.

Typical bee. Where's Dan to me. Down best joke of the podcast. That was good. To me, to me, him revealing of the podcast now is that to me to me him Revealing was a B was as if I had sat through the most boring Dinner of my life and then set the waiter said and your dessert and just threw a monkey's paw And I like what what is this why where is this coming from it was it was I found it to be an unpleasant surprise No, I thought it was great. So she crashes the car into a tree semi-purposefully, it seems,

and takes him down to the river, and it's raining again hard, and Emily says she thinks she's a swan, which is not meant as literally as his beef excitation, I think, but kind of. And it turns out, so he's been using the metal detector to try and find this ring, this gold ring that he lost. And like, that would be, I guess, the sort of the symbol, the signal that they should be together, it turns out that she has the ring. She found it by her gate. And she says, do I have to swat it you to get you to sting me? Which was fun. And then they finally kiss.

He picks her up, walks her out of the rain toward a patch of light. And she goes, I like this exchange. I'm mad too, you know, and he goes how? And she says, you'll find out when it's too late. Which is, you know, a nice summation of long-term relations. Then they cut forward to their wedding night and he's in bed waiting for her and she stabs him to death.

And you're like, not where I thought the movie was going, but it was too late, I guess. And we briefly cut back to John Hamm, who seems to have partnered up with the lady who met on the plane, or at least there's potential. And Dornin is in the pub now, singing Wild Mountain Time. And he calls his wife up on stage to join him in the singing, which is I think the third time I cried during the movie

and his dead parents, just to walk in and the camera. Sorry, I'm not laughing at the idea of Dan Crying. I'm laughing at the expression on Stewart's face on learning that Dan cried three times during the movie and I've cried through many movies I cry a lot of a lot of things they find are beautiful, but it was just it was just very funny Look this movie is taking Some very big swings at the end and I mean the fact that I mean and, and they're singing and his mom and dad's ghosts are in the audience watching.

But I think this is the last time you're standing on a hill in the sun, the hill that he carried her up toward and now they're in the sun, outside of, I guess the depression that bedevils all Irish people and the end. Now, I think it shows that this is one of those things where I think a movie as as we all know really benefits from what you bring to it and Dan I appreciate that it connected with some real feelings that

you had and it makes me feel bad then that it left me so cold throughout the entirety and some of the time he said he was a B I was like too little too late movie don't try to win me back now with some zaniness. Come on, don't try to throw that in. And maybe it's also that I have a fairly low tolerance for Blarney, it turns out. Yeah, yeah. Whereas, I mean, if it's something that feels like

it has some sort of Irish authenticity to it, I like, like the show Dairy Girls, I think is a really fantastic show. And that's a show where I'm like, oh, this feels like it comes from a place that's a real place. Whereas this, there's just so much like Irish spring commercial type stuff and I was like, oh boy, okay. That stuff is the stuff that connected with me least. As soon as it got, as soon as the movie showed me that I think it was supposed to be taken on a more metaphorical level than it seems at first, I got more into it. And that's why I think it probably worked better as a play

because you can get away with some of that more overt. I think it probably worked much better as a play. Also, you can get away with a long sequencer characters are talking in circles. Yeah. For no reason. But it really, and then it ends with the same VO from Mr. Walkenery says, if an Irishman dies while telling a story, you can be sure he'll be back. And be like, well, you weren't really telling the story. And also, what you came back as like a ghost at the moment,

it's one of those things that's like, this is supposed to be profound, because it's not literal, and it makes no sense. And there's a lot of the Irish in us type stuff. So, okay, let's do final judgments and I will say, look, here it is. Here it is. It's your favorite movie of 2020, you're giving it all the auspices.

No, I look, I can see why not to enjoy this movie and it is a very frustrating movie in terms of, for much of it people are not behaving in ways that seem to make any sort of sense as I know humans to behave but as soon as it made some of its bigger emotional leaps I started getting on its wavelength and I found myself very touched by the ending. I would have a hard time recommending to anyone because I think that your guys take on it is probably the more reasonable one, but I think that there's a small subset of the world that would find this

enjoyable. I'm not giving, look, two and a half, three out of five is even though I was taking with some of it, but still I think I kind of like it. Dan McCoy. Dan McCoy, it's me. It's me, the ghost of your great, great grandfather, Shemus McCoy. Look, I came from beyond the veil over the rainbow to tell you, you shouldn't be so ashamed of the things that you like. If you like it, then you should just go ahead and say it

even if it's a piece of shite like this movie is. So just go ahead and say that you like it. You know, we Irish, we got to saying, but we're a funny type of people we Irish. You know, we're just as quick to yell as we are to cry, just as quick to repoits as we are to punch some guy for no reason just because we feel like punch in a guy but you know we Irish has a saying and that saying is when the Blarney is in the Heather you got to ride the mist or

The Greenfields and I think you'd be knowing what I'm saying because you're also of the same sort You got the blood of the Emerald Iron you're a you're a real you're a real child you're real child of Of You're a real child of Hibernia. So, you know, I just want to tell you, Dan, don't be ashamed. Don't be ashamed of connecting on a deep, and a deep ancestral level to what you'd be seeing in this movie. It's Elliot has to assume now that this is how you guys felt the time he showed you Hitler under roof.

And you were not really that interested in it. And he said, I don't understand. And it's because when you see a movie that strikes you at that Primal level like you with this or Stewart with Primal you just feel that sort of that emotional connection and so I got to say Before before the before the coppers come to get me because so all Saint Peter He told me not to leave anymore and I keep leaving heaven so I can see women dressing in changing rooms and he tells me I'm not allowed to do that. Don't do that. Yeah.

There's no real, I guess there's no real place for a misogynist ghost in this new modern world anymore. No, I guess not now. But Dan, you just shouldn't be ashamed. They're coming to get me now. They're coming to take me away. Haha. And so I'll just, I'll see you later in our haunchy in your dreams until the avenge me murderers.

Goodbye, Dan. Okay. Well, I'd like to apologize to our Irishless smers for that hate crime. see you later in Alhantje in your dreams until the avenge me murderers goodbye Dan. Okay, well I'd like to apologize to our Irish listeners for that hate crime, those just perpetrators. I don't know if I call it a hate crime, I call it like... I would like, I would like, I did like Fiddler and we'll roof quite a bit.

I, uh, good to see you. I mean, I, I, I will say I feel that on the roof is objectively better than wild mountain top. No, of course it is. Of course it is. So guys, what, what are your judgments? I will say, as I would give this movie a bad, bad.

Just because it felt like I was constantly trying to hold onto what was going on in this movie and couldn't quite grasp it because it was so wispy and circular and not, it was so vague to me. The whole movie was so vague. And I can deal with a slow movie or even a dull movie. But this one, it was just like, every time my brain tried to hold onto it, it would slip off the edges.

So I would give it a bad, bad, but hey, it's worth seeing just the part where he admits that he is a B. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I'm going to go ahead and say, I think this is a bad, bad movie. I think it's a little bit too long. There's, I mean, I think there's a couple of nice lines that I think kind of work in a play,

but maybe not so well in a movie when it's like mush together with all this stuff that doesn't work. It's like, I don't know. I just recently got done watching that show, Normal People, which is about, you know, it's kind of a love story between two Irish people. And the whole time I'm watching that show,

I'm like, I cannot understand this dude's motivation. And I feel like that carried over into this movie. I just don't understand Irish people. Maybe you should understand Irish people. So maybe you should understand Irish people. Yeah, I guess I just don't understand this motivation. No don't understand that. I just don't understand that. I guess I just don't understand this motivation. No, I, for all your criticisms, but I still enjoyed it. Oh yeah, that's fine.

I mean, for a lot of it, for me, was just, was, was tone stuff too. Like it never, it never achieved the tone it needed to get away with some, and there's, but there are beautiful lines that there's a part where, when she's, when she's trying to figure out what's wrong, she says, do you ever think, do you ever wonder what I'm wearing when I'm not wearing this much? And I thought that was a beautiful way of trying to get around, trying to be sexual with him without running a foul

of the limits in their minds. But every time there's a really great line in it, it's like you're jumping from stone to stone across a river, and then you'll slip on a really mossy stone and fall in the river and you're like, damn it, that stone didn't work. Okay. That was a particularly Irish metaphor I feel like.

Yeah, that was great. I like that one. Yeah. Oh, I just got an email. Your travel ban has been lifted. Oh, thank you. I can finally go to Ireland and see all the pubs that my me ancestors went to before they left Russia.

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Okay. I watched it and I'm like, okay, I guess, I mean, this is kind of weirdly, ironically toothless attire of the business world. Is that the way you described it to your parents after you walked out? You said, for a wolf, that was pretty toothless. Yeah.

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Luki writes, a late happy holidays to you three, unless you really get into such occasions as National Bean Day on January 6th or January 12th, kiss a ginger day, in which case I am right on time. Like many Americans, my favorite thing to watch during the festive season is a Charlie Brown Christmas. During my perennial viewing last December,

I was reminded of a time when browsing shopco, word to my fellow Wisconsinites, that I came across a replica of the sad twig tree that Chuck brings over for Christmas. For the Christmas play, it was being sold for around $20 if I recall correctly, and at the time I thought it was really neat. But the more I thought about it, the more bothered me. I'm not upset at the prospect of peanuts merged by any means, but I was hit with the gross irony that some big business took a symbol of modesty from a program that goes out of its way to criticize the commercialization of Christmas, mass-produced it, slapped a price tag on it, threw it in stores, and probably made it killing off of it. Of course, I realize it's not a big deal in the grand scheme of things, and I'm certain

there are plenty of people thrilled to have it. But it's not something that I've been able to push out of my mind, so I wanted to ask. Have you seen any movie or TV merch that has baffled you with its existence? Whether it goes against the message of the creator, has little connection to the work, or has just plain bizarre? What's something that made an exec think they could make a buck and proceed to swandive backwards into hell? Keep on freeing in the flop world Youngster luki. I think I've talked about before I mean this is probably like largely a joke

Products but I've talked about before how I gave Elliott the meat that Rocky punches in Rocky Rocky punches in the Rocky There's an action action figure of a side of beef. Yeah, yeah, I didn't give you some I didn't like by the meat that Rocky So it'd probably be a lot of me so I'm so for 45 year old rotted meat And I was like great thanks Dan. Appreciate it. No, it's a plastic side of beef This is not also to that point, but I just wanted to give a shout out Elliott to when you... I guess it was Eric, like, took an R2D2 cooler from 7-11, like, that they're gonna get rid of.

And that was a used many times in your live talk shows. I was just thinking about the other day. I used to do a live talk show in a basement in the comedy theater, Juby Hall, Run By Roll, from Eric Morris'zek. And he, yeah, he was at a convenience store in Queens and called me and was like, they have a R2D2 Pepsi cooler. It's like the size of the real R2D2. They said they'll give it to me for, I think it was $30 and I was like, buy it. And so, and that became my sidekick on the show.

And then when the show ended, we made a movie called The Death of R2D2 where R2D2 dies. He dies of cancer very sadly. And then it ends with Eric taking that, just dumping it in the garbage. And then we made another movie where me and my old friend Brock my hand just took, I think, baseball bats and destroyed that thing.

And this took out all the lining from it. There's all this weird foam in it and threw it in the air like it was snow. But, yeah, that was a... That's unrelated. That's a good piece of merchandise. It makes total sense why you would see a droid in a movie and be like, I want to drink sodas out of that. The thing that comes to mind for me is something I think we might have talked about in the past, which is how there was this strange moment in the late 80s, early 90s, when characters from

very adult movies were suddenly being merchandise for kids. And the main one that sticks with me is like how much Freddie Krueger merchandise there was. And there was like, I knew a kid with a Nightmare on Elm Street lunchbox. And like you get a fruity Freddie Krueger talking doll. And this is literally merchandise based on a movie about an evil child molester who kills kids in their dreams and his face is horribly burned and the idea that it was just like yeah slap him on a lunch box take that to school kids it's a very it's a strange thing but maybe the most inexplicable piece of merch as I've seen was

that picture that went around when the Force Awakens came out of a bag of oranges that just had a picture of BB-8 on it. It's like, so are these supposed to be like better oranges because BB-8 gives us approval. I was like, you know, like BB-8s of a sphere, these oranges are a sphere, you know, it's a natural fit. Yeah, I mean, this doesn't completely answer the question, but I do love, I did love the, uh, the extreme advertising campaign for the movie Mordekai. How like somebody, somebody really banged hard on it. It did not work out. The, uh, but as far as, as kind of recent merch, there

was, uh, there was that bit, uh, when the Avengers Age of Ultron came out, one of the toy sets that came out featured the Quinnjet. And in the movie, the one scene that involves the Quinnjet and a motorcycle hopping out has Black Widow on it. But Black Widow is nowhere to be seen in the toy set. It's like Captain America or something riding in. And it's like, you didn't think the internet was gonna flip out over this.

Yeah, he thought you're gonna get this one this. Yeah, you thought you're going to get this one by. Yeah. Um, okay. Well, uh, second and last letter is a bit of a, a follow up from a previous recent letter, uh, from Trevor still not know out last name with held. Who writes, hey, Trevor, Trevor keep working at it. Someday you'll be Trevor Noah. Yeah. Yeah. Hey again, Peaches, I never thought it would happen to me. You read my letter.

My wife and I were delighted to hear someone else's quote, everyone's favorite bad boy feline. She's certain to continue exclaiming, Mao, Mao, after this. As to what we were watching, if you'll recall, we were laying bets. I'm fairly certain it was raising Dion on Netflix. As far as I can remember,

it features no cats, which helps explain some of my confusion. I don't really know what made her think of your podcast at that moment. Thanks again, Trevor still not Noah, last name of the game. Yeah, yeah. Thanks Trevor, bow my mouth. So, yeah, that a mystery solves. Put that in the closed case files. Wipe it off the wire style bigboard we got up there. Yeah, it's gonna turn from red marker into black marker. Now that we've closed that one. Yeah, finally. Oh boy, guys, we got one more segment on the show. What's that? Dan, try to pretend you're not as tired as the, as the audience is. It's been a long week. I think for everyone in America, this is, yeah.

We're recording this, you know, not too long after. Armed insurrectionists tried to fuck up democracy. Well, it's not like you work for like a political comedy show, right? No, thank God we were off the air. I have no idea what to say about that. Yeah. Anyway, so you just loop in like, you just loop in like silly sound effects for all the footwear, right?

That's usually what the daily show does, right? There was a period of daily show history when it just would have been speeding up the footage and putting yackey sacks on it. Like, oh God, okay. So let's see recommendations, movies that maybe you should the footage of putting yakety sacks on it. Like. Oh god. Okay. So let's see recommendations, movies that maybe you should watch instead. I would normally maybe not go to bat for a huge movie over discussing a small one, depending

on what I've watched, but I do want to say I don't get all the hate for Wonder Woman 84. I had a really fun time. I enjoyed it. I thought it was zippy and funny. Like I think people were not prepared for how silly it is. And but silly does not mean bad. I like silly sometimes.

Yeah, well mountain time. Well, like I feel like with like Marvel say, the unwritten rule is you can get sillier with the smaller properties, right? And that's where people will accept the silliness with your ant mans and your guardians of the galaxy. So move on over to DC. DC already has all these more serious-minded, so they think fans. And Wonder Woman is one of the big DC heroes.

So, like, but this was like a throwback to, you know, like Richard Donner, Richard Lester, style Superman. The two Richards. And I really had a good time. And I thought Pedro Pascal in particular was fun. And I liked how the movie hinged on like people were like, oh, it's got a magic stone shut up. It's a comic with movie has a magic stone, whatever

Dan, Dan, you're really amping up on this. Dan's opinions to not speak for the entire flight. I like not seeing the movie. I liked the way that like it has this wishing stone and the movies apocalyptic plot is that this guy sort of weaponizes everyone's selfishness. He uses their desire to have their wish come true to create great power for himself, destabilize the world, not to subtle a metaphor for what's going on in the world, but I don't care enjoyed it. Dan saying fans of DC movies, just like Wonder Woman urging the people to not wish for more than what they have, but to be except their lot in life, you're

saying this is the Wonder Woman movie you've been given just accept it. No, no, no. I like funny movies, I like silly movies, I like movies that have like a little now talk about you know that's a movie that talks to the time the 1984 no but it's not I mean the whole thing is about like capitalism and the inherent selfishness of it and it has this figure you know that is not too hard just to read Trump into and There's a really good scene where Wonder Woman catches two kids and falls on the ground and she breaks her fall with the kids. And they're like super obviously dummies.

You can find the clip on here. I mean, but even but the Wonder Woman, she's so strong and is she made out of clay in these movies like in the comics or no? Is she a living statue or she's a I think she's a I think she's a person. Okay, cuz in the in the comics She's I guess she's turned into a person magically in the comics do it like she could have killed those kids by crushing them with her body with a clay body. Yeah, I mean I haven't seen the movie and I it's not highest on my list if only because

At heart, I'm a Marvel boy. Hey, I'm a Marvel zombie. House of ideas 100% Stanley, Reston, Peace, this is for you, pal. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Face front. Yeah, so I'm going to go next. Before I go, Dan, did you ever recommend cam? I think I might have, but you know well i'll i'll jump over yeah i mean i'll definitely recommend cam i'll recommend two movies i recommend cam uh...

it is a horror movie about a young woman who is a uh... professional cam girl and uh... she discovers one day she is very uh... ambitious and she discovers one day that she is locked out of her account at that somebody who looks just like her is camming in her place and her kind of life falls apart. And it is a horror movie without a lot of obvious scares, but the whole thing is put together very well.

It's very tense. And I thought it was really great. And it came out a few years ago, but I feel like it feels more relevant now, both with like the rise of online sex work, entering the public conversation, and also just the way that we all feel kind of isolated using our screens to communicate. I looked it up, I did not recommend CAM.

I saw it and enjoyed it, but it's not recommended. Cool, I think it's great. Check it out. I think it's on Netflix. I guess that'll be my only recommendation. I'll save my others. Okay, I'm going to recommend a Stewart and I are in for a competition because I'm recommending a movie that's on Amazon. Uh oh. Oh no. Marvel versus DC all over again. Mm-hmm, but this time it's for real. Wait, where those Marvel wait Marvel and DC it wasn't really for real right they're all friends and really I Don't know Better than you. I don't know. I thought maybe you were you had your finger on the pulse you said it earlier

Oh, no, me too. I said it. So I'm gonna recommend a movie that's on Amazon right now It's called below the man down It came out in 2019. It's written directed by Bridget Savage Cole and Daniel Crudey I think it's pronounced and Mark Martin Dale's in it and June squibs in it and a bunch of other people and it's about there's this small town in what is it mean and these two girls who their mother ran a fish store there.

She has just died and left them with seemingly nothing. They can't afford the house and the business is not doing well. And one of them gets into some trouble and now the two of them have to hide a body. And that kind of leads them into learning more and more about what really kind of goes on in this town and makes it function. And the kind of compromises that the women in the town have had to make with their own morals in certain senses to kind of get by and keep the town going and which the men in the town

are more or less oblivious to. And I thought it was really good. It moves along at a real quick clip and is both super tense and I found it very affecting at the end, but also has some funny moments. And so blow the man down and I recommend it. And there's a Greek chorus of fisherman in it. Yes, singing, singing kind of C songs. This is a movie where it's not, I wouldn't call it magical, realist at all,

but it kind of gets into a slightly stylized sense of reality that I was looking for more of in Wild Mountain Time. This is a rare episode in which I have actually watched both movies that you guys recommend. This is amazing. Yeah. Okay, well that's it. We're done. Go home. You did it. That's Tracy Alman would say. If you say it like this, go home, go home, and you'll be wearing a robe. Yeah.

So thank you to Jordan Cowling, our producer. Thank you to maxbomfun.org, our network. Go over to maxbomfun.org to check out what else they have. They got a lot of podcasts over there. I listen to quite a bit of them personally. I enjoy them. You might as well rate, review, subscribe, whatever that thing is that people do to make people listen to this thing. You guys got anything to say? Want to check out our upcoming live show. It's going to be a lot of fun. I'm looking forward

to doing it. I like making you guys laugh and doing silly presentations and talking about Elliot's favorite movie, Teen Wolf. Mm-hmm. Well, it certainly was one of the ones in a high circulation at my house growing up because it was one of my sister's favorite movies that Saturday, February 6th, at 9 PM Eastern, 6 PM Pacific Teen Wolf. There'll be more monster talk.

I'm gonna be doing a monster based presentation. So if you wanna hear more about monsters, check it out, www.thaflophouse.simpletix.com. And until then, hey everybody, let's try to be good to each other. Dan. For the flop house, I've been Dan McCoy. I'm Stuart Wellington. And I'm Elliott Kaelin, www.thflophouse.simpletix.com. That's right right I legally changed my name to have the URL of the site that sells the tickets in it. See you next time. Bye! See your beautiful faces. Thank you. You see your beautiful faces. Thank you.

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