The Flop House - Ep. #355 - Breaking News in Yuba County

Episode Date: November 6, 2021

Here we are in No-vember, best known for having "no" theme. And we kick the month off with one of the most star-studded movies that absolutely made no cultural footprint whatsoever that you could hope to see -- Breaking News in Yuba County.Wikipedia entry for Breaking News in Yuba CountyMovies recommended in this episode:Primal RageTitaneNew York NinjaDear Comrades

on this episode we discuss breaking news from you by county in you by county what is it breaking news in you because breaking news in you county i'm glad that we nailed it in the first try by the way that's perfect what a perfect picture 100% flawless victory Hey and welcome to the flop house, I'm Dan McCoy. No, hey there, it's me. Steward Wellington. And I'm Elliott Kaelin. That's my name. Sorry. That's just it. I'm not going to change it. You don't need to apologize for that. Sorry, your face says you don't actually care. Yeah. Well, it was a sorry, not sorry, an SNS. Yeah. Now, what do you think we would have been mad at about your name?

I mean, at this point, I'm just ready for pushback, no matter what happens. There was the, first there were all the Ellie Caelan name boosters, then there was the backlash, then there was the backlash to the backlash. The people were like, actually, it's a really good name. And the people who were like, despite this revisionist history, it's still a bad name. All the think pieces, all the tweets, I'm just over it. You know, it's still a bad name, all the think pieces, all the tweets, I'm just over it. You know, it's my name's Lee Kaelin, here to say,

my name's Lee Kaelin, a major way. That's all I've got about. Yeah. Okay. It seems like a kind of lazy, sounds like an epitaph to me. So, yeah, that's what says on my tombstone. What do you want to talk, yes, your name?

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like, yeah, they're filled with the by the time the pyramid was done. It's like, oh, bury this rotting pile. No, it was that head chef's foot just died. We got to get this pyramid done yesterday, like chop chop. Let's do it. Uh, this is a movie podcast. This is a podcast where we talk about the scheduling and construction of pyramids. So here's the flop, that flop house tip number one, you're going to want to pre-buy. You don't just want to wait till the last minute, your deathbed, to start shopping for those pyramids because you're talking about design, structural architecture, price, don't try to do it yourself at home. People have tried so many times. You've seen on that whole reddit that's about pyramid fails. People tried to build their own Egyptian tomb and it just doesn't work. Yeah,

don't need to spray for the undercoding. Well, unfortunately, Dan, they put that in the factory. Oh, and when you're lying on your deathbed, you want to spend your time focusing on stuff like what, like cool last words you're going to have, who you're going to snub in your last words, all that stuff? No, this is a podcast about bad movies, where we watch a bad movie, and then we talk about it. And in this case, we watched a movie called, let's see if I can remember again,

Breaking News in Yuba County. Yeah. Here's a peek behind the curtain. Dan got the title wrong when we first started recording the episode. So that's why Dan's a little trepidacious about an hour, but I think he's gonna do just fine. Dan.

How can I, how can I mess up a catchy title, like breaking news in Yuba County? How would I ever get in? Well, what I love about is it tells you really you need to know about the movie. Yeah, I like that. Yeah, you're our geography nut on the podcast. Is Uba County a real place?

Uba County. Or instead of made up place. It is a real place in California. Now, the movie seems to take place in Kentucky possibly. So I'm not sure, so I don't sure if the Ube County of the film is a real place, but there is a real place called Ube County. Or at least Wikipedia says it's taking place in Kentucky. I don't actually remember anything in the movie

that made that clear at all. But there is a real Ube County. Now, people may recognize this type of title as kind of a things to do in Denver when you're dead type of thing. Where it's like kind of like a deliberately kind of longish, puckish title that kind of winks at the audience like, uh-oh, what kind of news is breaking in Yuba County? And the movie isn't a lot of ways kind of a throwback to that era of 90s, violent comedies that had over long titles. Like eight heads in it. This is your eight heads in a duffel bag for 21st century. Finally, my kids have their

eight heads in a duffel bag for 21st century. Finally, my kids have their eight heads in a duffel bag. Yeah. It's that it's also kind of like a, an attempt, a bad attempt at like a Cohen brothers movie like a Fargo or a burn after reading. It also, you know, it evokes like like Elmore Leonard or Carl Heiss in novels to some degree. But, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, you said better. You said better, but better, but worse. You said better. Put it on the poster. Better than Elmore Leonard and Carl Hieson.

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production logo on here, though, among the other ones, like nine stories on there, which is Jake Gyllenhaal's company. But one of the production logos is the blacklist. And that's right, this movie was produced, in part, by the blacklist, the organization that collects the best unmade scripts in Hollywood and makes the worst movies. And makes the worst movies because here's how many years of other blacklist movies we've done in this podcast, Red Riding Hood, seven pounds, ATM, abduction, all about Steve, that

awkward moment, gangster squad, aka that had had had hand-turters, a brand-linked vampire hunter, I believe, number 23, possibly. There's a lot of some good movies are made off of black the scripts, but a lot are not. And this one is actually produced by those, by that organization, which is surprising. Yeah. What's surprising that they decided to start getting in on

the content creation game themselves? I think surprise that they started to get in that this was the script they decided to go. And you know, movies change as they're made, but maybe maybe the folks behind the blacklist are like, you know what, this script is written so well, you know, it'd be impossible to mess up. I do think that there's something about blacklist movies where it's like the reason they got put on this list is there flashy scripts, which does not necessarily translate to like a good script. Like I feel like maybe the reason they are often unproduced is the people in charge of

making movies. Look at them and be like, Oh, well, this reads well in the page, but it wouldn't work as a movie. And then like it gets attention, you know, once it gets doesn't that this is my theory. What makes it what makes a good script Dan? Is it fun? Well, it should probably be a career new. I think that's the standard.

We're not the old career, career. Get some new career in there. I will say also it is such a balsy slap in the face to screenwriters to name the list you want your script on, to name it after the screenwriters who were thrown in jail or had their careers taken from them because they would not call out communists in front of Congress. So it's a real, or we're accused of communism.

Is that what that fucking James Spader shows all about? That's exactly what it's about. James Spader, it's weird to make a show where James Spader is the hero and he's locking screenwriters in jail for being communist. And at the end of everybody, at the end of every episode, he throws them in jail and he goes, take that commie, you're on the black list. And then the title comes up, black list. So it just balls in the...

I guess that's what must be why it's so popular. Unless the people at the American black list council were like, people, look, the Huak hearings and everything, it gave black lists a bad name, a black mark, if you will. Let's change the way people think about black lists by making it something that you want to be on. So we're making the screenwriting thing. We'll make it a James Spader show.

There's no telling. You're a spader in a hat. Look, you've seen James Spader, but have you seen him in a hat? Yeah, I mean, he was known for having that beautiful haircut. And now they're like, let's change it up. Let's give him a hat. It's like, when does it work and it's like, hell yeah, it works. Yeah, yeah. It's like, when a quickly when a Quigley who down under shaved his mustache,

and everyone was like, what are you doing? But they learned to love him. Exactly. Yeah. Finally, some justice for Quigley down under. Okay. So we are introduced to the hero of this movie, Sue, played by Allison Janney. She's at a grocery store and she's listening to affirmation tapes and buying herself a birthday cake, which of course the cake makers get her name wrong instead of Sue, they write suck. And seem very unwilling to change it, which is like, that's crazy, that's super easy, which of course she shows us later, it's very easy. Yeah, it would take so little effort on their part to get it right, you know.

Yeah, she's just like, you know, she's like a buttoned up like suburban housewife time. If actor name is Sue Buttons. Yeah, Sue Buttons, thank you. And we're introduced to her husband, played by Matthew Modine, her husband, Carl, who is having some phone sex with his mistress, which you all know the first rules on your wife's birthday. You don't spend time with the mistress, right, Dan? I mean, I guess he doesn't. He doesn't. Dan, that's great.

He may spend time with his mistress on his wife's birthday. We don't want to. Yeah, you don't want to foreclose all your options, I guess, Dan. Be flexible. Everyone knows birthdays for the wife, Saturdays for the Guma. That's how it works. Come on, guys, we all know that.

Now, a TV in the background informs us that there is a missing girl, Emma Rose, and she seems to be the focus of all of the entertainment news. Specifically, one entertainment talk show host, Gloria Michaels, played by Juliet Lewis, who is interviewing the parents of this missing girl. And you're like, how's this going to tie in? Don't worry. Well, Sue works at a call center, a call center where they are mean to her and forget her birthday. And then guess what?

We got even more characters here because this movie is filled with actors. Not I know every movie is filled with actors, but these are ones whose names you recognize well, not secret honor. That's because we go actors, but these are ones whose names you recognize. Well, not secret honor. That's just going to us. Because we go to a actor in it. Oh, okay. Thank you, LA.

Thanks for all these. Some are just one, some are just Philip Baker Hall. So, you know, yeah, no, that was great. Actually, that's a really good player. Yeah. So we, we go to a store where we meet Pete played by Jimmy Simpson, who is the brother of Carl, which is strange because they look almost nothing alike. Yeah.

But they're probably very similar in age, right, Elliot? There's a roughly 15 year difference between the two of them, between Jimmy Simpson and Madeline O'Dane. He's like the primary McPoyle on, on, on, always sunny, right? Yeah. And he was on the first season of, uh, which much of a Westworld. Yeah. I'm wrong. There's this thing. That was his star turn. Yeah. Yeah. That was his breakout. Jimmy Simpson. He was, he was, he was now, he's a leading man.

Jimmy Simpson. Yeah. Yeah. Jimmy Simpson plays Pete. And he works for Rita, who's played by Wanda Sykes, who I got to tell you, made me laugh a bunch of times. She is the funniest person. Not just because she was wearing these awesome, she's wearing this very funny wig and shorts the whole time. It is great. And she's always pulling out a pistol and she seems very up,

she like yes, her character yes ends everything in the movie. It's great. Okay, so we find out that Pete is a ex-con who's trying to reform, but it becomes kind of hard because some of his former criminal contacts played by Aquafina and Clifton Collins, Jr. show up and try and hustle them down, shake

him down for some money or get him to, we find out that he's mixed up in a money laundering scheme with his brother Carl, once again, Matthew Modine, who works at a bank. Okay. I think this is all making sense. Yeah, this is, you know, crackerjack, clockwork bank. Okay, I think this is all making sense. Yeah, this is Cracker Jack, clockwork plotting. Oh yeah, clockwork barring plotting. Now I wanted to mention, this is how stuff with movie stars is in, is that it's,

that's Ellen Barkin, right, as Juan de Cites is like. Oh yeah, Ellen Barkin's in it too. This very small part that does not need an Ellen Barkin to pull it off, but Ellen Barkin is do it. Like this, this thing has, when you think about how hard it is to get certain movies attached to celebrities, this one, it's almost like they just walked by a celebrity and the celebrity

was pulled towards it like a metal filing towards a magnet couldn't resist the gravitational pull of breaking news in Yuba County. What the title like that? I got it. What it's about? What's the breaking news? Look, I'm only halfway through the title. I saw breaking news in and I'm telling you,

I'm in. I'll finish the title later and I'll finish the script. Maybe never. I'm in the movie. Take it. Okay. Ms. Barkin. That sounds wonderful. Yeah. Great. So, aquafina and Clifton Collins Jr. are like shaking down Jimmy Simpson at his place of work. And we're introduced to the first of many very lazy stunts. that is place of work and we're introduced to the first of many very lazy stunts. Feels like they did not hire any kind of stunt coordinator or a choreographer because like they're just like, yeah, just fucking do whatever you like. Do what you think's right because it always feels it feels very strange. Wanda Sykes has some funny bits for their gun. Now we got to it. Now we got to it.

Now we got to it. Now we got to it. Right. She really wants to live a criminal. Yeah, that's her deal. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's to it. Now we got to it. Now we got to it. Now we got to it. Now we got to it. Now we got to it. Now we got to it. Now we got to it.

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On Glow. Yeah. Well, you know, that's, I feel like I like it more on Glow than, I mean, obviously, everyone hates them on Veronica Mars, but whatever. So Carl is reluctant. He is reluctant, but he is still washing the criminals money, which is what three million dollars is literally a bag with three million dollars in cash that's very neatly stacked and they're like, launder this by tomorrow. And I don't know how money laundering works, but it feels like it takes, it's not like you put it in a machine and it comes out as different money. Like you got to do, it has to go through different things to be

laundered, right? Yeah. Like, like, right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There's got to just watch. Those are due to tells you how to do it. You throw some golf balls in a, in a dryer and throw the bill. It's easy. Um, wait, I'm intrigued. How do the golf balls in the dryer help? Well, because it like fucks up the bills a little bit. Make some up crumpling. Okay. Yeah. And then you get to pretend you can crawl into the dryer and be like, I'm on the money tunnel on a game show. And you're just grabbing it all the bills. I will golf. Yeah. It's kind of like how in to live in Dianna, LA to make the counterfeit bills look real,

they throw a bunch of poker chips in the dryer. Right. Okay, don't worry about it. So meanwhile, Sue very dejected because everyone forgot her birthday, decides I'm going to make a reservation at the fanciest restaurant in town. And I'm going to tell my husband he has to take me out because it's my fucking birthday. So she goes to his work only to see him leave with some flowers. And she's like, ooh, who are these flowers for? I'm going to tell my husband he has to take me out because it's my fucking birthday. So she goes to his work only to see him leave with some flowers and she's like, ooh, who are these flowers for? I'm going to follow him. So she follows him to a local motel and

she interrupts him, of course, with, she is hoping to be surprised by the flowers that he's planning some surprise for her. But instead catches him with his mistress and he immediately has a heart attack and dies. His mistress is played by Bridget Everett who is very game and she kicks the mistress out and then spends the day sitting in a hotel room watching TV with a rotting corpse. Yeah, I got, I mean, like, this is an unpleasant comedic scene because it does appear to, like the movie wants to make a joke of the fact that his mistress is a larger woman and has her giant boob out in half of it out of her bra. One of her breasts out of her bra.

Half of her set of breasts is better. Yeah, they didn't. Yeah, exactly. The pair, one of them. And I just, it's an unpleasant scene on behalf of the movie because it like it really does. I feel like I don't know. It just wants to make a joke of this woman in this scene. Oh, no. And later later when that character shows up again, one of another character goes like, she is fine. And the movie seems to want you to think it's hilarious, yeah, that a large woman would

be sexually desirable to somebody. It's a gross, yeah, it's gross. I mean, I think she's pretty great. Okay. She does fine with the role. It's not a problem. I mean, she's great. Yeah.

So the weirdest thing for me in this scene is that while we see Alison Channing like sneaking around the outside of the hotel, we see a bunch of people like grilling out in the little park next to the motel. And it's they expressly say it's like a Tuesday afternoon, like who's grilling out on a Tuesday. And this also points next to a parking lot. That like this parking lot, it's this this field next to it, not even the field, the like grass next to this hotel, it's like nobody seems to notice her burying a body there. And it seems like it is a very heavily populated area. It shouldn't even go to it.

It's the whole, the whole later on in the movie, there's another scene that this hotel that we'll get to. And I was like, how is nobody Seeing this intervening like calling the police. I don't understand this well lit like very visible. Yep Now a lot of sightlines. I would like to take this moment to talk a little bit about Alison Janice character Yeah, please see you know, she the titular Braking is our lead and Alison Janie, you know, wonderful actor, a Academy Award winner, I think does, you know, what she can with this part. Like she is actually in a movie that I think is not very good largely, is pitched pretty

well, but the script doesn't make a whole lot of sense. I don't know. Her whole deal is like, look, I understand that her birthday being missed is meant to be a, like a shorthand, movie shorthand representative of, you know, the life of quiet desperation that she's leading. Well said, Dan, is that your phrase? She's come on in that. That's very original to me.

Very well said. TM. But in the context of a movie, like, and I do think that you're supposed to have some sort of sympathy for her at the beginning of the movie, and then watch as she sort of grows into a fame hungry monster, even though you were supposed to scoff a little bit about her affirmations, like the fact that she's walking through life, trying to pump herself up and this idea of we are all special, we all deserve.

I think the movie is trying to pitch it down the middle where we're like, we use sympathy for her, but also satirizing this mindset of personal growth and how it can lead to selfishness and if misapplied. But I don't know. I don't start the movie with any sort of sympathy. Well, a little bit, a little bit. I don't want to, that's too much.

That's too much to say. Well, I don't know, but I think you're right that the tone is off because when the movie starts, you are meant to think she's pathetic. And it's supposed to be funny that she's pathetic. Like, that she's stepped on by life, no one pays attention to her. She does these affirmations,

but clearly she is not in control of her life and everyone just shits all over. And it's supposed to be like funny, but you're also supposed to feel bad, but then you're supposed to want her to get what she thinks she deserves, but then you're supposed to lose simply with her at a certain point. And it's, it's, it's a very difficult, total thing it doesn't pull off, you know? Well, like the moment her husband dies, she immediately has that like click where she's

like, okay, I don't feel bad about this dead guy. I'm going to take what's mine. It's Sue's time to show. Yeah, exactly. And I feel like they, they like speed up to that point a little too fast for me. Like, again, there's a scene where she's sitting watching TV with a dead body next to her. It's a little bit weird. And it's, yeah, as she's sitting there, she is watching TV and she watches Julia Lewis. And she gets the idea that if she buries her husband in pretend that he's

missing, she might get all the attention that she hasn't been getting. So she does just that. She buries them in the field immediately next to the, next to the hotel or motel. It's like any she also from the entrance of the motel. Like it's crazy. Yes. With, with the flowers that he bought his mistress and the bag of dirty money that she has

not opened, she does not know it's filled with three million dollars. Yeah. She goes to report that her husband is missing to Detective Regina Hall, which is always great to see. She's awesome. Uh, who does, I guess, the best she can with this role, um, who, uh, is, and who doesn't really pay, uh, sue much mind. And then she tases a excitable frat boy type character who climbs onto the desk and the police station. Very funny stuff. Really, I was so confused by, because they're like,

we got some drunk college students come in and here they go. And they just were like regular white college bros. Like there was nothing exactly exaggerated about them, but they're like, whoa! I couldn't understand. I was like, I don't, I don't really think I get the joke here.

Like I don't understand why this was the thing that also needed them to be distracted from Sue Buttons. It seems so, it seems so half-assed. The whole thing. Well, in general, this movie appears to feel it is at least 25% more outrageous than it is, except for the moments that are actually

outrageous, which are like strong violence to come that we get the tone of the movie. But we'll get there. And I think we should mention because it's something I don't want to forget is that the music in this movie is working over time. Like it's like they, they're so, so, this is what a clown here's in hell, like being piped into the movie. Just, this is the most extreme intense like, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boink, boink, boink, boink, boink, boink, boink, boink, boink, boink, boink, boink, boink, boink, boink, boink, boink, boink, boink, boink, boink, boink, boink, boink, boink, boink, boink, boink, boink, boink, boink, boink, boink, boink, boink, boink, boink, boink,

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But I mean, that's like, I mean, there's a think of Cohen Brothers movies that are like trying, like, pitched at a similar level, but better. Like, you know, they've got like these great dramatic Carder Burwell scores, even as funny things were happening, whereas this one is just like,

let's get the person who does the Tom and Jerry cartoons music. Yeah. It's the thing of if you want something to be funny, then you have to do it as real as you can. You want the audience to believe this funny situation is happening. So when the music is like, boom, boom, boom, boom, boy, you're like, okay, well, I know this is not, this is not, not even trying to convince me that I'm watching a thing that we're watching real people. Later on, Sue has a breakdown while eating her birthday cake and she breaks all of her chachkis and cause a real big mess and breaks

her TV and all that shit. But unfortunately, in the midst of all this wreckage, her sister, Mealakunis shows up, Nancy, who's a local newscaster, and Sue lies about Carl being abducted, and they decide to break some fucking news. Now, this is, and now we, we mentioned it's almost like the casting directors were like, Jimmy Simpson is 16 years younger than Matthew Modine and their brothers. Why don't we try to break that record? And Alison Janney is 23 years older than Millic Unis and they're supposed to be half sisters. And it is, I feel like it is hard for the movie to, it never comments on that age difference

other than saying they're half sisters. But it made me want to know more about the backstory of these people. They're such a huge age gap. I mean, are they Anthony Quinn's kids? I know that he had a son who was shoe and a son who was like 52. But that probably, probably, it adds a lot to the movie. And it took me out of the movie a little bit because she, Mila Kunis seemed very upset that the home was so messy.

But I know that Mila Kunis doesn't wash her children. So I don't know what the big deal is. I'm not, I don't get that reference on just I can't really grant it. There is a there is a new story where Mela Kunis and Ashen Kitchen were like we don't bathe our kids that often. Yeah, like it's a it's a waste You also there were two documentaries about how she's a bad mom. So really that's true. Yeah two documentaries Yeah, bad mom and bad mom to you a Christmas adventure. Oh, I see Yeah, so it wasn't like fire fast where there were two competing.

Like these were two fictional films, which she was labeled a bad mom. What fix? Like, you know, I think it's right. Like those two documentaries about how Billy Bob Thornton is a bad Santa. Sure. Sure. There's a real industry in slandering big Hollywood stars. Yeah.

Okay. So Sue is fabricating this story, but Detective Regina Hall, she's not buying it. Okay, she doesn't like the idea that instead of, you know, really going to the police, even though she did, that, you know, she's going straight to the press. One of the weird thing is there's a, when the detectives come to her home, they pull out a photo of Sue and Carl, like one of their like, you know, marriage photos. And Matthew Modine is giving a thumbs up and I found it very funny. Like, why would you frame that photo?

It's really silly. Okay, so the Crooks, that's shorthand for Aquafina and Clifton Collins Jr. It's funny, my notes, I also kept calling them the crooks. Yeah, like we're like we're writing for like an old-timey newspaper. So the crooks go looking for the money at the bank. Obviously, Carl is not there. So they kill Pizz instead.

And then just leave. No reason. It's, I mean, Aquafina I guess supposed to be like your loose cannon criminal type. She's like, she's uncontrollable. And like Aquafina's voice is, I mean, Aquafina I guess supposed to be like, your loose cannon criminal type. She, like, she's uncontrollable. And like, Aquafina's voice is, I think, the funniest, her voice just saying just by anything makes me laugh. But I was like, I don't get why,

that was a moment that took me out of it, even more rows, like, I don't know why you just did that. I don't know why you just shot that man on the head, you know? Yeah, I mean, like, I think Aquafina, like, I love Aquafe, I think she's extremely like charismatic as a performer, but I think this is, I think this is miscasting to have her play this, I guess, you know, yeah,

it's supposed to be like dangerously loose cannon criminal because she doesn't give, like, she gives off, you know, like goofy Aquafe, but she doesn't give off like, also possibly like threatening going to, you know, like goofy aquafina vibes, but she doesn't give off like also possibly like threatening going to kill you vibes. So I think the story. She seems so, the thing about aquafina is her effect is like I'm over everything, like I'm over this.

Like, so it's hard to imagine her as someone as a joe peshy type, who is just like a hair trigger away from murder in summer. Yeah, exactly. She's, she's, she's too cool for that. I'll go for it. You're too cool for this. It ain't cool.

It's kind of funny to pair her because her like, yeah, she's got this kind of like, kind of like goofy, stoner vibe almost. Yeah. And to pair her with Clifton Collins Jr., who is like, okay, I'm going to play it even less effective. Yeah. Like I mean, I even give a less of a shit than this. Barely in this movie.

I mean, I just say, I kind of like, his haircut is great though. His look, I thought was perfect for it. And I kind of like his performance because it was like, he was like, I'm like if Anton Chigur had a younger brother who had just come out of a Cuba. Like I'm so like, I'm Javier Bardem from No Country World Men,

but I'm like, even more of a blank. And there's, and you get a, I was waiting for like some, at first I thought they were boyfriend and girlfriend, and then I thought, oh, she was just, he was just hired by her dad to watch her, but he's doing a really bad job. And he was providing so little that I found myself projecting so much onto his character. And I'm like, that's film acting. I don't like that. That's, that's Robert Mitchum right there. You know, so.

Okay. So, let's see. Sue speaks with glory. She goes to the studio to speak with Gloria Michaels. She tries to sell her story, but ends up having to double down on her lie and manages to tie Carl's disappearance to the disappearance of Emma Rose. Uh-oh, what a web we weave. Jimmy Simpson, he goes to the crooks, because he assumes they have kidnapped his brother and they convince him that he needs to give them $20,000 to pay them off and they'll give him back to his brother, which we obviously know will not happen. So Wanda Sykes is like, we got a rob a mall jewelry store, which they do. And she seems very into it. And I appreciate her enthusiasm. And the way they do it, they back a truck through it through the, through

the entrance of the mall and then run in and smash everything and then run out. And he and she's like, I love this. I love this. And he's like, be quiet. We're going to get caught. And I'm like, I'm sorry, her voice is not making any more of a sensation than like, I think you rammed a truck through the entrance of the mall. Like, yeah. And there's alarms going off and he's like, be quiet, be quiet. Like, I don't know what he thought he was robbing.

I don't understand. Yeah, maybe was he yelling at her? Was he yelling at the alarm? Maybe that's sometimes I yelled at the alarm. I'm telling alarm, hey, quiet. And he was, yeah, then he'd start, that's right, because then he took a towel and was waving it at the burglar alarm to try to,

try to turn it off. And I'm like, that works for smoke alarms. That doesn't work for burglar alarms. So, melecunus convinces her sister to do a joint interview with the parents of the missing girl, Emma Rose. Somewhere in there, Meena shows up and try, that's Aquafina shows up and tries to shake down

Sue for the money, but Sue's like, I think she calls her or something, I don't remember. But she doesn't have the money. Carl's mistress shows up in the right before the interview taping is supposed to happen. They get in an argument on the front lawn and then Sue's like, okay, I know how to deal with this one. So she tells the crooks that the mistress knows where the money is, which, as we will find out, leads to her death,

which is pretty fucked up. Yeah. And the crooks have left their business card with Alison Janie in case she gets a tip or something like that. And it's just a very, it was very funny to me. It was like, oh, so it's like the cops on the wire, they're always leaving their business cards around. Really like the crooks are like,

it doesn't say like, Mina, criminal. And then her number, like, always leaving their business cards around. Like, the crooks are like, it doesn't say like, Mina, criminal, and then her number, like, call me, it's confusing. Also, this, like, you know, I, it might be getting a little ahead of ourselves, but this seems like a weird play to me on behalf of Alison Janney, because like, the mistress is, it's not a play done, it's a movie. I know, thank you. I was watching a lot of succession, you Dan, it's a movie. I know. Thank you. Dan's been watching a lot of succession.

He knows that's what they say. I know. But the the mistress shows up being like, I know what really happened. Like and I don't care anymore at this point, you know, like if you expose that I had this affair, like I don't even like my husband, whatever, whatever. We find out later she's very sex positive based on the contents of her dresser. Yeah, but she's a loose end that needs to get tied off, but like sending them to,

like she knows that soon knows where the husband is. So sending her to the bad guys, like I don't understand why when she gets kidnapped by the bad guys later, she doesn't immediately just send them back to suit. I mean, eventually that is what happens, but it seems like the first thing is like, oh, you're looking for this guy who's missing. You know who lasts saw him. His husband, her wife, his wife. Like, can I talk? Well, even why she doesn't say,

I was his mistress and she, and he died having sex with me. And now, and Sue is, and I tried to blackmail Sue, and that's why she called you. Like, instead, she's just like, I don't know what to do. What, I'll tell you what everyone would tell me. I don't, but also, the more important thing

is that Sue has now crossed the line from, let's call it victimless criminality. We're all she's doing is playing a hilarious prank on America that her husband got kidnapped into active victim full criminality and that she has delivered this living woman into the hands of criminals that she hopes will kill this living woman in turn or into what's known as a dead woman. Yeah.

Who, again, you got to, you blame Matthew you blame Matthew Modine, you blame your husband, you don't blame his mistress. Come on. So, meanwhile, to be fair, she is very, she is very abrasive as a mistress. I guess. Yeah. So the cops are closing in Regina, Regina Holtrize like a, a fucking gotcha with Sue, where she's like, what about, when did

you have time to eat the birthday cake? And it's like a fucking person who's super stressed out because their husband's missing would eat a fucking birthday cake in front of them. You don't have to justify that shit. Like, no fucking jury would get him with convicted. It's pretty weak, evident. She's like, she has to be involved. She ate a birthday cake and she canceled her dinner reservations. Why would she do these things? Her training officer was encyclopedia brown. Cases on very flimsy. Listen to Sue, but a mule is sterile and cannot have children. Take her away, boys. So Sue of course blows the interview. So she has to take it one step further. So she makes a ransom note.

blows the interview. So she has to take it one step further. So she makes a ransom note. And you know, by cutting out little things and sends it. Letters from magazine, not just all little things. It's not like bugs. She got a poster of the little things, the HBO thriller that, uh-huh. Yep. That's true. you, who, uh, thriller the uh-huh. Yep. That's, that's true. Uh, let's see. Uh, okay. Uh, so Pete gives the Jewel Rita the crooks, uh, who have, who have at this point already abducted the mistress, um, and then Pete and Rita, uh, abduct, uh, Aquafina and try to ransom her. Well, man, there's so much. There's so many. This one also the detective hall, there's detective Harris, Regina Hall. They think this is around when she arrests Sue, right?

Yeah, I remember. And Melikina's records it on her phone. And suddenly there's, there's like all the news cameras show up at the police station. It turns it even more of a kerfuffle. Yeah, publicity circus. Yeah. Meanwhile, Pete's wife finds one of the rings that he had stolen and calls him and lies about going into labor with twins so that he rushes home and she confronts him about the crime, about him going back to a life of crime of stealing shit. He's like, I had to do it,

they got my brother, but they have it out like- When she says, Are you about your brother or about me? Which is kind of a strange response when you find out someone's brother has been kidnapped. They can love you and be devoted to their family and also not want their brother to be held by hostage takers. You would make a really great marriage.

Let me judge John Hodgman this for a moment. Wow, okay. Okay, Janelle, I know that you're worried that Pede is falling into his old habits. And that's fair. That's a very fair way to think. You care about that. But he said he wasn't going to commit any more crimes.

He said he wasn't going to commit any more crimes. He broke that promise and you know what? I understand why you're feeling betrayed about that. But he said he wasn't gonna commit a more crime. He said he wasn't gonna commit any more crimes. He broke that promise and you know what? I understand why you're feeling betrayed by that. But on the other hand, let's look at it from PD's point of view. This is an out of the ordinary situation. It's not every day that his brother, his older brother, his much older brother,

kind of more of a father figure to him because he could have been a teen dad and had him that it's out of the ordinary that that's going to happen every day. So I think what we have to do is I'll go to my chambers and we'll take a quick break and then we'll be right back. You know, square space is the all in one platform that allows you to make websites. No, don't give it away from me. Oh, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, I was just, I was channeling John Adren to much.

So, oh man, I also want to talk about, did you talk about already about how they, let's talk about some of the violence that's happened up to this point because they kidnapped Boquofina and they managed to shoot off part of her ear by accident. And they do shoot off part of her ear. And as revenge. Meanwhile, they're threatening to cut off the mistress's fingers. Yes. Which they don't do, but instead.

Oh, thank goodness. fingers. Yes. Which they don't do, but instead they, they, they instead the crime boss puts her head on the bowling ball drill and then drills a hole in her head. Yeah. And this particular forever. This, this boss, this is Kong Sim, who this is his second flop house appearance. He was also in Hillbilly, LG. So congratulations. You're back. Yeah. I appreciate it. Yeah. He played. Welcome back. How do you like it? Is it comfortable? Is it great?

He's given us a big thumbs up. Well, he's sitting in a bean bag. So it's obviously comfortable. Not a lot lower back support, but it's just kind of like, you know, it's like being back in the womb if your mom's room was behind you. It does conform to you though, so that's kind of nice. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I mean, if you're going to be sitting all day, clutching a N64 controller that is getting increasingly sweaty

as you play through bond levels, you got to be sitting in a bean bag. Did you guys see the recent experts say about how Timothy Chalamant, he used to have a, he used to have a YouTube channel where it showed hand painted custom controllers that he was still. That's my fucking quiz out, Todd Rock right there. I saw I'd never seen an interview with him and I saw a video of the interview where he was like, yeah, they found my old YouTube channel

and I was like, the mystique around this guy has disappeared for me instantly. Like, it's like, I'd only seen his performances and I was like, this is a man of rare, it's a boy of rare delicacy and refinement. And then he's like, yeah, dude, I used to paint these controllers and I'm like, oh, oh, forget it.

Never mind. Where? I don't know, oh, forget it. Never mind. I don't know, I made me like him a lot more. I wanted to believe him as kind of like an almost like Oscar Wilde in two delicate for this world type of elf man or kind of not like Danny Elfman who is too delicate for this world. That's why he lives inside of a dimensional plane that vibrates constantly so that he isn't part of this dimension or part of any other dimension. And he just every now and then sends out songs.

But more of like a pixie type creature. That's what I wanted him to be. But turns out he's just a regular number. Tim, you're just a regular guy. I mean, I saw somebody describe him as being just like a really wealthy mouse. And I think that's pretty accurate. That's what I wanted to see. Yeah. I saw somebody describe him as being just like a really wealthy mouse. And I think that's pretty accurate. That's what I want to see. Yeah. So on the subject of violence,

yep, Clifton Collins Jr. shows up to rescue his partner in crime, Aquafina, and he blasts Rita with a shotgun. And then he shoots Ellen Barkin. But in the process, aquafina gets a hatchet to the chest, RIP. Okay. Then Clifton Collins, Jr. burns down the store with their corpses inside again. A level of violence that I don't think this movie can support. And it's not with this tone. It's like the movie is the movie is like silly, silly, silly violence, violence, violence, violence.

Like it's suddenly like the movie was like, wow, it's later than I realized. I better start killing off characters one by one. Yeah. And I have to say there's a there's a moment where so Rita has been shot and killed and Ellen Barkin is like, no, you killed Rita and gets killed and it gets shot and she falls next to Rita and dying. She's like gripping Wanda Sykes's dead hand and going, Rita, Rita, no, Rita.

And it was like, I do not like this. It was not funny. This is far too real. And in that moment, it was like, I feel so bad for these characters. They did not deserve this. Like, it was so, it was just too much. That was one of many times where, but maybe that was the most of the moments in the movie where I was like, no movie, I can't go back to laughing.

After I've seen the genuine pain that this woman is experiencing, like, oh, horrible. As my son would say, whenever I do any of my voices, he doesn't like, horrible, horrible. Pete rushes back to the store to try and warn Rita, only to find that the store has been arsoned. So he tries to rush home. But meanwhile, Clifton Collins juniors in his home, stalking his pregnant wife with a pistol. And, but she gets the drop on him and stabs him a whole bunch and gets blood all over her face. So another character is dead. But not the, but not the pregnant lady. That was, that was my worry was, was that they were gonna go, it was that the movie was gonna be like, you don't think we're gonna go this far,

but we are and I'm glad they did not go that far. Well, especially because I think she's the only fully sympathetic character in the film. I think she's the only fully sympathetic character in the film. So even though she puts, she drops down like, you know, like, what do you call him? Like a thing where she says you got a pic mirror, your brother sort of like an ultimatum. Yeah, thank you. One of those things. I think he was the word drop that threw me off at first. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Okay. So the crime boss, he's losing his, he's losing his people. He shows up and holds Sue and Nancy at gunpoint. Nancy revealed that she was called Sue and Nancy. And instead of Sid Vicious, it was this character Sue Buttons, but she was still in a relationship with Nancy. The Nancy's bunch. Hmm.

Well, you would be good still. I mean, I kind of feel, but also I should mention it's Gary Oldman playing Sue Buttons. Sue would get the drama that she really craves out of life. Sort of attention. It's haboid attention. I mean, all right, despite the fact that again,, as we've addressed, Gary Oldman is an old man. I think he could do it.

He wasn't at the time though. Okay, now forget about it. He's always been an old man. All right, this is lame. At the time he made Sid and Nancy. He was, I mean, he was a young man. Okay. Like, this is a new movie, Elliot.

If you check the credits, it says Sid, played by Gary Youngman. Gary, currently a young man. Okay, now it's Sid and Nancy, but, play by Gary Youngman. Um, Gary currently a young man. Okay, now, now it's Sid and Nancy, but it's called Sue and Nancy, but instead the Sue is sugraved in the author of the like, B is for burglar and M is for murder. Like those, those mystery novels. How is the story of you different?

I think you're doing it. Yeah, I think you're doing it. Pass away right before she made a disease. Yeah, sad. Well, the Z was gonna be, and then Nancy is the Nancy from the comic strips, right? Exactly. It's sugrafed in the mystery writer and Nancy.

And so instead of it being about like heroin or punk music, it's about like, she writes a book called, B is for changing room, B is for bathing suit. Yeah, it's just, A is for AC. She's just writing, so she's writing. Wait, wait, no, no, no, no, no. You're thinking of Kathy, Nancy, which one is oh Nancy

Oh, that's like Kathy and Nancy next up. So what if it was called Nick's and what if it was called Sue and Kathy and okay, it's about Su-Grafton and her friend Kathy and she's writing these novels and eventually Kathy is like wait Beas for bathing suit see is for chocolate is for hack you've been writing about me and Su-Grafton is like I'm not the bad art friend. Are you the you're the bad art friend Kathy. Oh, wow. Topical. And then Nancy's logo come in and they I guess murder everybody because it's one of those movies that's kind of not that funny, but it's trying to be kind of funny and there's murders in it. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I get it with you. Okay, so wait a minute. I'm looking up

the sous graph in books now. Her ex book was just called X. That's not okay. You can't do that. Yeah, it's not fair. The years for vengeance. Not even like X marks the spot or something. Not X marks the spot. Next X is for Xylophone and it's some kind of Xylophone murder. Thank you.

Thank you. So the crime boss shows up. He holds Sue and Nancy at gunpoint and then he forces them to take them to the money, take him to the money after he shoots Nancy in the knee. Yeah. Which I feel like Mila Kunis really plays as well. Like she is suitably freaked out for having gotten her knee camera. That's a painful, that's a painful injury to be fair. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You were in one of those gun fights and they blessed your knee off right. Yeah, I was. So anyway, it turns out it was all a mistake.

The terminator was there, but he wasn't really involved. So the rumors were he was he was at the same Carl's junior that I was at. And he just happened to be online on the gunfight broke out. Uh, and the gunfight was between me and well, it's we don't need to get into anyway. It was Robocop. But yeah, I'm not allowed to talk about it until the civil suit is finished. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Robocop in a rare moment of not shooting someone in the dick shot you in the mean. Yeah. So, so Sue and the crime boss go to the motel to dig up the money. Meanwhile, the detectives are also going there to like poke around and ask questions. Let's see. The cops interrupt the crime boss who's going to kill Nancy. Once he's gotten the money. So they, he's made Nancy

blind. He dig up the money and then it's going to become her grave as far as they know. Yeah. Yeah. So they, there's a brief gunfight. Both detectives are shot and killed. The crime boss is shot and killed. Sue is the only one left standing and she vows that she will turn the detectives into heroes as they are dying. Now she is famous. The end of the movie. Hurray. Breaking news. The movie's over. Self-help book. Son Juliet Lewis's program again. Gloria Michaels. Oh, and we learned that we learned that Emma Rose was found alive, totally fine. The little girl, that's over in rice over, we're told that.

Yeah, I would have appreciated. Not to say I would appreciate a longer runtime, but this tie up seems pretty rushed, hurried to this sort of hand wave away. Like I have no idea at the end of the movie. I'm like, what, what story she told to cover everything? Like I kind of a more skillful version of a reader book and a reader book. Yeah, say some of the sequel. You see a movie like this and the loose ends are breaking twos breaking news in tuba county.

It's actually an is a place called tuba county where everyone plays the tuba but Dan you're saying. No, a movie like this typically win well made. The loose ends are either tied off or it's very clear that like the ones that aren't tied off are not tied off for a reason. Where's this just sort of hand waves away, whatever happens in between her sitting next to two dead police officers in a crime boss and her appearing on Juliet Lewis' program. Yeah. Hey, Dan, do you think if this movie had been a big hit that there would be like Facebook targeted ads for combo t-shirts where it's like, it'll say like breaking news, we'll all say breaking news in Bloom County. And it would be the Bloom County characters dressed up like

they're the youve a county car. Is what do you think they think that would have been a big if it had been a big hit. They like breaking news. The two things, sure, you've been looking breaking news in Yacht, Patafa County. And it's all the Faulkner heroes from the, from the, from the W WFC the William Faulkner's cinematic gamers. They would have done that. Yeah. Probably. That's cool. So they would have been cool. Yeah. I think they've all done that. It's weird and we also because they wrapped it up and then

the credit start and then there's a mid credit scene as if they're teasing another movie. And it's what you see this mid credit. You see this. You gotta stop earning off. At least at least fast forward through the credits. Just stand through. So Alison Janie is on the, where she's talking to, did you let Lewis, and it's a year later,

and she's like, oh, my book is such a big hit, and Juliet Lewis is like, you've inspired me to write a book. I'm gonna write a book, and she's like, oh, well, then I'm gonna write another book, and we're gonna go on a book tour together. And it's this weird scene where clearly they are both trying to exploit each other to make money and they do not want to be friends.

But like, but Alison J.A.N.E. keeps like, keeps roping Juliet Lewis in and it's clear that Juliet Lewis does not want to do, does, Gloria Michaels does not want to be connected to this person anymore. And it's, it's just this weird little sketch that like I wasn't, to be honest, it might have been my favorite non-wanda psych scene in the movie, but I couldn't understand why it was there necessarily. Yeah. No, I agree, alienably.

Like, in terms of actual, like, comic juice, like, that scene felt a little, like, sharper than the rest of the film. Well, it felt like a sketch that had a premise where someone, some, where these two characters are both trying to be the one exploiting the other for gain and they won't let up, but it's a and it hints at a Sharper film perhaps or even a sharper image if you were watching the TV like I was with

Yeah, we're watching in for this was available in 4k I did not spring for the extra to see it in 4k But you know, is that where they like spray water in your face and shit? I saw it in 4k where they have the character 4k from toy story 4 is just you know edited in he's just like ah Yeah, when it when it when when the violence happens is like I don't know how to handle this I'm 4k Yeah, someone told me that they went to see Dune in 4d and they're like yeah, and the seat how to handle this. I'm for key. Yeah. Someone told me that they went to see Dune in 4D and they're like, yeah, and the seat like shakes and stuff. And I was like, what? Like that's not a movie. Like the same way that like, the same way that

there was part of me that always felt a little bit like I was cheapening my, what do you think? What do you think would happen in 4D at Dune? Like if the sheet of the seat isn't shaking, what should be happening? No, nothing. You just sit and watch a movie and it's made of sound and image and you know. Now it's not in 4D. No, that's okay with me, but the same with.

You need that extra D. You don't need, well, as I said before, all movies are already in 3D because it's depth, it's not, it's height, width, and time. The extra 4D, you don't need it. I don't need that extra D. What's extra D then? I saw that church that that she needs the D

And I'm like not that fourth D star three D is fine, but the how did the guy react when he told him that he said really? Oh I've got to rethink this shirt and he he went on a voyage of self discovery and now he's doing a lot better And now his now his shirt now his shirt says she can choose to implement the D And now his shirt says she can choose to implement the D rather than that she needs the day. But it's like, it's still on the go. Well, you should just buy it. Yeah, they should.

Well, he just wrote over with Marker. It didn't work. He's committed to the matter. Yeah. When I was a kid and I'd plug in my rumble pack into my N64 controller and play Star Fox, it felt like I was cheapening the experience a little bit. So I feel like the 4D would do that too. Yeah.

It also made it harder to play because you're trying to use a controller and it's shaking in your hands. I mean, that's probably the challenge, bro. Well, is this supposed to be challenging to watch a movie like the Cherish Shaking to make it harder to see the film? So you like, sometimes I'm not sure.

It's just us, dude. I have never gone to a 4D movie. I've heard tell of them, Audrey's been doing a couple. I hear that it's like you get, it's almost like you get punched in the back at different points. Sounds like Audrey's the fun part. That makes sense then because it's like, we all knew that. If you go to, if you go to see Dune all the times that, that, that Duncan Idaho like slaps

Paula Trady's on the back, the back of your chair hits you too. And it's like, oh, now I know what it's like when Jason Momoa hits me on the back affectionately. Yeah. and it's like, oh, now I know what it's like when Jason Momoa hits me on the back affectionately. Yeah, now I'm regretting not going to see Teton in 4D, but... Okay, I'm going to share in your mouth. What about the person who's super excited about seeing Teton and they're like, I've heard this is really going to push my boundaries. This is going to be something I've never seen before, but he actually got tickets to Titan AE and he's like, what is this?

This is not the movie I was promised. I don't know, man, it's pretty cool too. Where are we talking about? I'm in the show. Final judgments. If this is a good bad movie, a bad, bad movie, or a movie, kind of like, I will admit something shameful, which is like, I didn't hate this. Like, there are movies we watch that are really sort of boring and are trying to do nothing. And this movie, I don't think is very successful, mostly because I think it has this just sort of boring and are trying to do nothing. And this movie, I don't think, is very successful, mostly because I think it has this sort of sitcom level direction of everything.

But I do have a soft spot for movies where a bunch of dumb criminals make things worse for one another. And I also like the cast of this quite a bit. So this is one of these ones that for me falls outside our regular categories, but in another category, we often invoke, which is like, I don't know if I was falling to sleep to this on a Sunday, it'd be okay. But what do you guys think? I had a much stronger response to it.

I thought this was a bad, bad movie. I, in theory, I always, in theory, I like co-enbrothers-esque movies where a bunch of dumb criminals run around and get into trouble and get killed. But for it to work for me, it's either got to be really funny, or it's got to be so stylized that I don't feel bad for the characters, or if I do feel bad for the characters, that's what the movie wants me to do. And here I felt like it was not funny enough or unreal enough for me to get over the fact that like I'm seeing a woman getting a drill put through her head or seeing, you know,

part of another. I mean, you don't actually see it. But I know what's happening. But it is, but even in the moment, it would have been wild. It would have been very wild. I feel like, you know what? That's a good point. It would have been wild. It would have been very wild. I feel like, you know what, I was, that's a good point.

It would have been much more extreme then. But the, or seeing like Ellen Barkin genuinely like distraught that her wife has just been killed, she's like, it did not, it couldn't stick that landing and I just ended up being, it was just one of those movies where I was like, why are all these people in this movie? Like why is this, there's this level of talent in this movie and it just couldn't, it couldn't pull off what is admittedly a very hard task, which is to do a like a funny dark comedy where you're not put off by people, people getting killed left and right, you know. But for me, it, it went into the distasteful territory.

Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I think I'll, I'll say I'm kind of in between you guys, but I think it'll still be a bad, bad for me. Obviously, the cast is great. All the performers, proven themselves and other things 100 times over. But I feel like with this type of movie, I think it felt like, yeah, it felt like kind of like a sitcom level direction as opposed to like a slightly more patient more character driven like a little like it could have been a little quirkier I guess like yeah. You know, to give these characters a little more time to define themselves so that when terrible things happen it actually has some emotional weight other than, this is bad. So yeah, it's, yeah, it didn't really work for me. Break news, I didn't care for it. Hold for a while. Just making a quirky little smile. You can't see it home, but but Stu is doing a real take to the camera.

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that's going to be out next year. Again, that's my slasher comic book that asked the question, what if the wire instead of being in Baltimore and being about drugs was in New York and was about a Jason type killer that was loose in the city. But again, they can find out about the main act of New York trade paperback that's in stores now later. Stu, you go first. Uh huh. So, Ellen, did you, are you sure you don't want to go first? I know. I feel like I shouldn't go first. Again, I could tell them that again, they can pre-order the second series, main act of New York, the Bronx is burning through their comic book stores now, but instead I think you should go first.

Do you think I'm going to look like an asshole if I go first? I don't think so. I think, you know what, as much as people want to hear about Maniac of New York, the trade paperback election of which is on stores right now, that's written by me and aren't by entry moody. That's from aftershocks comics. On stores. The, I think that they can hear about that after you talk.

So you go first. Okay. So, uh, Hey listeners, my name is Stuart Wellington. In addition to being, uh, hit hot podcaster, I am also, I am also the, wait, a hip hop podcaster. I mean, wait, no, if you listen to my words carefully, I said, a hit, comma, hot podcaster. Are you a hit podcaster because you're a hot podcaster? Or are they? Oh, you're a hot podcaster because you're a hit, comma, hot podcaster. Now are you a hit podcaster because you're a hot podcaster? Or are they, I'm a, that's the best. Oh, you're a hot podcaster because you're a hit podcaster. Those are questions you're gonna have to answer yourself.

That's the thing. I don't feel like I have the information necessary to come to a conclusion on those. Well, that's an answer too. Mark C. You're just Mark C. I'm all right, scaling in the bubble and scanning 100%. I got it right. I passed the test

and I'm now a lawyer. Great. Oh wow. Okay. Well, I'm in a jam right now, Elliot. And that jam is, I own a couple of small bars in Brooklyn, New York. Fun times. That's small. Thank you. Thank you. They're great bars called minis bar and hinterlands bar. And if you are in the city of Brooklyn, New York, you should come out and visit sometime, because it, I don't know, that's my job. And I like, I like it when I get to see people who listen to the flop house. So come on by sometime. Elliot, you had a plug. You know what? I'll do it next episode. Okay.

Okay. You know what? Let's move on to some letters from listeners. Yeah. Why not? No. People who listen can also write. And sometimes they write us letters. That's the segment. I feel like you're fucking teasing Ellie with that shit. Yeah, I don't know. I don't get it. I don't know what you're looking for. This uh, hey now, we got some letters coming your way That's right, there's letters coming in today Alright, there's letters coming through the air They're being thrown by some kind of great

Mailman picture guy, hey look, it's famous picture Randy Johnson He's a mailman now, and he's throwing those letters right through the air into the mailbox. Oh no a bird was in the way It's dead now hit my letters What you know what I like that one that one had like a sort of a common to America They're coming to flop us now letters Two days for okay this first letters from turn on your mailbox. To you know, per last name with held rights. I write to you regarding my recent revisit of Disney's chicken little starring Zach Braff. Sure. As a, as

often the case, yeah, we get that a lot. Another surprising sentence. As a bear naked, was he live actually? As a bear naked ladies fan, I was surprised and elated to hear them perform as part of the movie. One little slip from the chicken little sound. Oh, wait, sorry. No, sorry. I read that wrong. I was surprised and elated to hear them perform as part of the movie. And one little slip, that's the name of the song, from the chicken little soundtrack, has become a permanent installment in my Spotify library.

Aside from this, and Don Notts being cast as a turkey who is also the mayor, the film was terrible. My question to you is this, are there any songs from a movie's soundtrack that stand out in quality such that you'll listen to it outside the context of the movie? Extra points if the quality of the movie itself is much lower than that of the song. Yours always a Juniper last name withheld. You know, the first one that kept us to mind is I'm a big fan of Who's Johnny by Eldebarge. Okay. From short circuit. Yeah, sure.

To the degree that Audrey and I were making out. You're fucking first dance song, right? DJ, list for the wedding. And I'm like, would it be too ridiculous to put Who's Johnny by Eldebarge on the list of songs I want played? Would I be the only one dancing to that? Mm-hmm.

I think you'd be the only one dancing without a look of confusion on your face, but other people would be dancing, yeah. Yeah. You guys have any? I mean, yeah, I feel like the 90s was filled with killer soundtracks for like ever, like any movie that came out had fucking amazing soundtrack. It's from a rose, dude. There's nothing in about that. Nothing's better than that song. Yeah. man. Yeah. I'm trying to think like, I feel like, like most of this, like the crow soundtrack was great. The judgment night soundtrack was great. Judgment night's not a good movie, right? It's fine. Guys. What about like American world from Paris had, yeah, there's some bangers on there. Like, but not mesh because it's not in London.

It's in Paris. I mean, recently, this is, I'm skipping ahead to my recommendation this week, but I, after watching, after watching Teton, I immediately went out and bought that song, that album by the Kills that has the song from the car show sequence, because it's great. And I added it to my workout routine Nice. I there are a lot of songs that I listened to outside of the the context of the movie I don't know if that I would cut all the movies bad necessarily, but like there's a Metallica fans are well Well familiar with the song the ecstasy of gold my neo morcone from the good the bad and the ugly which is a which is an amazing song that I would play all the time

There's I used to have a CD, I guess I still have it, but I don't have a CD player. It was called The Best of Godzilla, Volume 1, 1954 to 1975, and there's a bunch of great songs on there by Ikiro Ifoku Bay. There's one called, there's two from Godzilla versus Mechigodzilla in particular. I love Godzilla versus Anguirus, which is this kind of like real jazzy kind of like is engeiris, which is this kind of like real jazzy kind of like 60s rock song and one called Miyurabi's Prayer where this character is singing to the giant monster King Cesar to come help stop the bad monsters, but the the version on that disc is just like feels like a very jazzy kind of like torch song almost, but you know 70s kind of torch song. There's a song from the movie Zangir called

Chakoturian Tez Carallo, which translates as Get Your Nights Sharpened and that's a song I really like from an Indian movie from the 70s. So I'll throw those songs on all the time, but I don't watch those movies particularly regularly, but I like to pull those songs from the context of the film, just listen to them. There's a lot of songs from foreign movies that I find myself like listening to a lot outside the movie.

There's a song called Forkettiva, I think, from the movie Criacuervos. That was like a pop hit at the time. It's the Spanish language pop hit and I'll find myself listening to that one a lot. So yeah, there's tons of songs that you can let's do outside of the movies. I don't, those aren't bad movies necessarily,

but you know, why not? Hey, I make the rules. This is my life. I don't care what you say anymore. This is my life, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, Billy Joel sang this song. Now I'm taking it from him, do, do, do, do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do Hello, floppers. I would love some advice. I want to watch scary movies, but I make gigantic, scaredy-cat.

I'm afraid of gore, of jump scares, of being scared. I enjoy alien and aliens. I love to get out, and I generally like thrillers. Mostly, I just want to watch mother judging by the fact that I agree with the flop house on the fountain, the prestige, annihilation, and the fall, I think I might be in the group of people who would like mother.

So how do I do it? How can I train myself to like scary movies? And also a series of post scripts, Dan, you responded to an email from me when I wrote to thank you all for giving me through the long night after putting my cat down. It was really kind of you. I still think about it.

Stu, I worked full and part time in restaurants for nearly 20 years. me through the long night after putting my cat down. It was really kind of you. I still think about it, Stu. I worked full and part time in restaurants for nearly 20 years. I feel for you all right now. I hope you're doing okay. Also, please keep the Instagram thirst, picks, and videos coming. I can't stop.

I'm addicted. Elliot, when is the next picture books? I run the Children's slash YA section of a daily newsletter, focused on books and Andy bookstores that I've been loving, keeping up with the kids book careers of different max funsters. All that's nice. Well, help getting to scary movies.

I mean, that's kind of tough. Like, wait, did we, they like mother? They haven't watched yet. No, they haven't watched yet. Oh, yeah, it's not scary. It's just super stressful. It's like, as I've said, it is a perfect encapsulation of my bartending stress dreams. It's great. The feeling that like people

keep coming in and I'm like, it's 4 a.m. You got to get the fuck out of here. Considering the scariest part of it is when those people keep sitting on the sink and she keeps saying, stop sitting on the sink and they will not stop sitting on the sink. Like it's like, it's, there's a scene in Call Me By Your Name where, I think, Tivy, these Shalame, like, doesn't close a refrigerator door on the shot just lingers on it. And I'm like, oh my god. It's close. The, the, there was, there was a movie recently I was watching with my wife and there was a scene where the character left the house without turning the lights off. And I was like, uh, it's not that vague an emergency. Like, can you please turn those lights off

and she started laughing at me? But yeah, mother is, it's, yeah, it's not scary so much as like appalling in a good way. Like I feel like it's a shock to the system, but it's not a like, I guess there's a couple kind of, there's one or two like almost jump scary moments, but they're not, it's not like a horror horror movie. It's more of us.

Yeah, it's more like a sort of a relentless grinding down. Yes, I mean, I think that was my favorite movie of that year. Like, I really loved that movie. And part of the reason is because the movie starts off in like, we're like, I get what kind of movie this is. It's kind of like a horror movie. And it keeps going through stages where you're like, what is this movie?

And then by the end, you're like, oh, I knew what that movie was. By the end of it, yeah, it's what an experience. But I did really like it on. I mean, when it comes to watching horror movies, I mean, the only thing for it is to do it. I know that like Audrey did not watch horror movies. Like she sounds kind of like you and that she's interested in them.

So she would like read the synopsis on Wikipedia, but she would not watch it. And then she fell in with me and all my nerd friends who love horror movies and has been sort of, uh, biosmosis exposed to a lot more. And I think is a lot less scared because of it. But I also would like to say, you know, don't seek to not be scared because like part, what I wouldn't give to still be scared by a horror movie, which is not to say I'm like particularly brave because I am not, but I'm so used to watching horror movies now that like if one genuinely scares me.

It's like a comfort zone for you. It's a treat, it's a treat of something scares me. I'm like, oh, something broke through my hard candy shell. You're the decadent centabyte who is piercing his flesh in the hopes that he will someday feel aroused by something again, because you're so over physical pleasure. Yeah, yeah. If Dan was a centabyte, he would be the CD head,

but replace the CDs with steel box DVDs. We're steel book DVDs. Yeah, the, yeah, I would say my bit of advice would be pick horror movies that you want to watch that seem like they might be a little bit fun and then watch them with the lights on with a group. So don't start with markers is what you're saying. I would not recommend anything from the French crazy horror wave of crazy horror movies. I feel like it's okay not to like scary movies and to not like being scared.

I have two children, one of whom love scary things, the other one does not like scary things at all. And I love them both equally. So if that means anything, it's okay. I would say a way to get into it might be to start with like eerie or creepy movies. If that means anything, it's okay. I would say a way to get into it might be to start with like eerie or creepy movies. I'm a bit, there's a lot of older,

what we call horror movies now, like the Universal Monster movies where the Val Luton produced horror movies like cat people or the seventh victim or even some later movies like the Innocence or the others even, which is a, you know, it's 20 years, they're almost 30 years old at this point. But like, it's a, you know, it's 20 years, they're almost 30 years old at this point, but like, they're movies that are less like scary, scary,

and more just creating an eerie or unsettling atmosphere, and that might be a way to get into those kinds of movies, where it's not, you're not jumping straight to someone getting like a knife through their face, and instead you're starting with like, oh, you just happened to be inhabiting this kind of strange eerie world, you know, and I know. Anyway, but that's to say that like, you don't need to be into horror movies to watch

mother. You just have to be ready for a movie to keep assaulting you with moments of discomfort that you weren't expecting ahead of time. Yeah. Yeah. But like I said, the main horror of the movie is there are people in my house. Why won't they get out of my house? But not in a scary way, just in a like,

I need these people out in my fucking house. Like, yeah, super relatable. It's great, it's great. Okay, well let's close with our traditional final segment, which is recommendations, movies, of movies, of movies that we've seen and would recommend to others. I wanted to recommend a movie that I saw as part of a friend's horror marathon they were

doing. It's called a primal rage. It's from 1988. Set the video game where the monkey farts on people. It is indeed. Well, this does not involve a monkey that farts, but it does involve a baboon that gives people a rage virus. So, yeah. So, yeah. So, yeah. So, yeah.

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So, yeah. So, yeah. So, yeah. So, yeah. So, yeah. So, yeah. So, yeah. So, yeah. creative team, but like, but shot in Florida with American actors. And it is basically what I'm always hoping for when I like, I'm like, oh, I haven't seen this trashy 80s or movie like it has the like the zing that I'm looking for. It's got a bunch. Like it is dumb in a lot of ways. Like, you know, you couldn't sell it to someone as like an unabashed good movie.

Like there's a bunch of like dopey stuff in it that's fun to laugh at, but it's also done with a certain briskness and like stuff's always happening and a bunch of gross horror effects and just goopy stuff and silly, I don't know, it's just, it's just fun. It's like a fun trash 80s horror movie if that's the kind of thing. Dan, that's enough. You don't, you don't have to feel defensive.

That's enough. Yeah. Yeah. That's it. I'm going to recommend two movies this time. The first one I've already mentioned and that is Teton, the palm door winner from this year. It's an intense movie. It's gory and gross and weird and has a lot of body horror. But it's, I mean, it's certainly not like other movies you're going to watch right now. It's directed by

Riton and directed by I'm going to butcher her name Julie Julie DeCourneau, DeCourneau, who made Raw, which is also amazing. And Teton is, I don't know if I'm gonna go into the plot, but I will paraphrase my friend April Wolfe when she described it as a movie that tries out being about like three or four different types of movies before settling on the weirdest option. I found it both upsetting and also like very heartwarming and touching at times. It's great. And the second movie I'm going to recommend,

but also with Teton, like if you are squeamish, it's pretty intense. The second movie I'm going to recommend is going to be coming out on Blu-ray from our friends at Vinegar Syndrome. And it's a movie called New York Ninja. It is a movie that was shot in 1984. And the after it was shot, the project was abandoned and the director and star retired. So the, and then the 37 years later, the unedited reels were picked up by vinegar syndrome and

they decide to edit the whole thing together, re-record audio and music for the whole movie, and they release it. And it manages to be this kind of like perfect 80s, like Ninja Action movie featuring a New York city that is overrun with what appears to be the same gang of guys garishly dressed in weirdly padded outfits who are stalking around the city and kidnapping women and the only recourse is for one man to become a ninja wearing what appears to be like bedsheets. And it's like, it's very silly, every scene. Like there's something, I feel like because it's been edited recently, edited together

recently. I feel like because it's been edited recently, edited together recently, it flows really well. Every scene is like funny and weird. It's, yeah, it's really fun. New York Ninja. In a New York Ninja, that's that song that you may have heard from her. I'm going to be recommending a movie that's not from New York. It's from Russia, but it's a new-ish movie. It's not, this is not an old movie from Eastern Europe.

We have to guess what it is by what it isn't. Okay, so it doesn't have, it doesn't have like a cat bus in it, like my neighbor Totoro. Okay. They don't go to the moon. There's no scenes with James Hong in it. Is this helping you figure out what movie it is? Is it a stalker? there's no scenes with James Hong in it. Is this helping you figure out what movie it is? Is it a stalker? No, it's not. It's Dear Comrades.

That's right. From 2020, Dear Comrades directed by Andre Kanchalovsky, who is best known here for Tango and Cash and Runaway Train. But who in Russia has made much less Tango and Cashy movies than the ones that he's made the United States. I'm out. Sorry, yeah. Sorry, shouldn't have said that. But it's a movie it stars Julia, Vysotskaya, and she plays the part of a party bureaucrat

in the early 60s, who is kind of a real toe-the-line communist. And she witnesses a massacre of striking workers that the government then covers up and goes on a hunt to find out whether her daughter was part of that massacre. And if she's her daughter still alive or not. And it looks beautiful. It's shot in that crisp black and white that I love from my Eastern European cinema. The acting is great. The story is really gripping.

You don't really need to know anything about Russian history to get it. It's based on the story of a real life massacre of striking workers, but you don't really need to know anything about Russian history to get it. It's based on the story of a real-life massacre of striking workers, but you don't need to know that. And you're just following this woman on this kind of grueling emotional journey as she has to start doubting all the things that she's kind of taken for granted around her. And it was just really good. It's called Dear Comrades, Exclamation Point. Just like Mother, Exclamation Point, just like mother exclamation point,

the title also ends with an exclamation point. So that's deer comrades. And it's available a bunch of places on Hulu right now and it's on Canopy right now. So, you know. Toobie is it on Toobie? Probably. I seem to find that everything is on Toobie.

Toobie is like discovering that there was was a dumpster behind your house that somehow is full of gold. That's what To be is to me. It's like, I walk past it every day and I'm like, there's nothing good in there. And I finally look inside and I'm like, everything good is in here. This is amazing. Yeah, that's amazing. Come on, To be.

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All right. Well, you know, this has been great, but all great things have endings, including the same thing. Even bad things do too. Yeah. But before we go, I would like to thank our producer, Alex Smith, for all the work he does for us on the show, making it sound great. I would like to advise you, the listener, to go check out other shows on the Max Fun Network over at maximumfun.org. There's a lot of funny shows, a lot of informative shows. There's something to your taste there.

I guarantee, unless you like garbage, binding. If you like bad things, then steer clear, but if you like good things, go for it. Stick with us. You're gonna find something. But until next time, for the flop house, I've been Dan McCoy. Hey, it's me, Stewart Wellington.

And I'm Elliott Kaelin. Talking like this for some reason. Cool. Cool. Bye! On this episode, we discuss breaking news in U-Buck County. The only comedy movie that dares to shoot the moon by having zero laughs in it. Thus making it the funniest comedy movie ever made. I-I-I-

No, let's do another one. Raves Aaron's circuit. Yeah, I-I- Dan's gonna be like, I laughed twice. We can't say that journalistically, so let's do another one. I-I-I-I-I check all the couple times. Okay. Comedy and culture. Artists owned, audience supported.