The Flop House - Ep.#290 - Meatballs Part II

Episode Date: August 3, 2019

We're joined by the wonderful Sharlene Wellington, owner or partner in many lovely Brooklyn bars (also, she's married to Stu). She wanted to discuss the 1984 summer camp comedy Meatballs Part II, and as three middle-aged men who were raised on dumb 80's shit, who were we to argue? Meanwhile, Sharlene brings her Jewish summer camp experience to the fore, Elliott waxes poetic about making first contact, Stuart promises some future Baby Boomer rants, and Dan takes us on a trip through Meatballs history. Wikipedia summary for Meatballs Part II Movies recommended in this episode: Matinee Midsommar The Sisters Brothers The Devil Wears Prada LIVE SHOW DATES 2019! September 28 – BOSTON – WBUR CitySpace (early show SOLD OUT, but there are still tickets to the later show!) October 12 – LOS ANGELES – The Regent Theater

On this episode we discuss Meatballs Part 2. We are reviewing a movie this week, Not the Food. Not the second Meatball, and I assume 3 to 4 Meatballs. In your spaghetti plate, we apologize for any misunderstandings. Hey everyone and welcome to the flop house I'm Dan McCoy. Hey and this rascal over here is named Stuart Wellington. Hey everybody it's Elliot Kaelin saying is that a little bit of extra pep in my step? No it's just the after low of having been at my brother's wedding yesterday. Oh wow.

So for future historians you'll know I recorded this the day after my brother's wedding, the date of which has been lost to history. And I'm currently excited that because he just got married, it's unlikely he'll just show up on this podcast. I mean, not tonight. I mean, he's going on honeymoon, but he's just going to wander in the door at like every other episode. I'm going to be like, yeah, when he was unattached, he just will pop out of a toilet like

a ghouly. And let's talk about the opposite of gulies. Give you a message right? I hope that I'm without your anniversary card to your wife. You'll be clear why I'm bringing up her in a moment. You'll say the opposite of Gouli's. I love for you. Yeah. On Valentine's Day, the ground outside my apartment is littered with candy hearts that have been tossed away because it does not feature the, you are not a Gouli.

So joining us today is a special guest. That's right. It's my wife, owner of multiple bars in Brooklyn, taker of multiple improv classes. That's right, that's Charlene Wellington. And Flophouse Road Manager. Oh, and Flophouse Road Manager, which keeps these cats in order. Hi, guys.

Are you doing Charlie? Thanks for joining us. Thanks for having me. It's been a while. It has been. Always. Yeah, I mean, I mean, I guess, yeah, I mean. The longest while.

I feel like Lucy trying to get Ricky to let me in the show finally. That's not a reference that I don't get because I am a young hip cool model. I'm making about younger please. The only show Stewart's familiar with. And the best show. Oh, see, Charlene's just revealed that this is a backdoor pilot attempt. A second backdoor pilot attempt for Stewart's younger cast.

Listen to previous episodes of the show if you're a first time listener to get that joke. Previous episodes, the Cheritane episodes, the only one. Oh, okay. And also that joke. It's just that you like younger so before we get into why Charlene picked meatballs too for us to

watch Dan what do we do on this podcast? this is a podcast where you watch bad movie and we talk about it usually we do something that's newer let's say new to home. I would say home video, but it's all streaming these days. So home formats, I guess. Home viewing. Yeah. But when we have a guest on, we like to give them the option to say,

to throw as a curveball or do something that they want to do. I have a question for Charlene. Sure. Knowing that this is about watching a bad movie and talking about it, why did you, what drove you to be on the show to waste your time watching some movie and then yammering with us? Well, I watched some of the movies with Stuart,

although I had to try to be a professional and not fall asleep. Well, then Dan is not a professional. I'm not willing to be. Me neither, because I fell asleep, but I woke up and finished watching the movie But I basically just wanted to see what you guys do She thought this was just an excuse for us to go see our goomars, but no

We're actually doing it now Yeah, not like I always see from their book. Yeah. So that's an R and not a D. Not a D like Alamar. Yeah. There's no D in Gala Mada. I don't know. What have I been putting in my mouth? Let's uh I feel like this is a question we need to ask uh famous uh Facebook bad Italian comic strip to Joey Kelbräzy to where the answer to this Charlie and I think all the floppers out there wondering what's it like to be married to an original peach? Wow It's like tell us something embarrassing.

Um, it's like, Stuart's turning so many shirts of red. All the time. Stuart makes me breakfast every single morning. What a darling. Yeah. He's, he's, uh, not a party animal. What? You're blowing up a spot. Oh, man. He's he's not a party animal

So we so we today we watch the movie or whatever for this episode we're reviewing the movie meatballs part two from what 1984 1984? Now is it Meatballs Part 2 or just Meatballs Part 2? It is Meatballs Part 2. Because Meatballs. Specifically Meatballs Part 2. It implies a direct continuation from the first Meatballs. Oh, and that's an interesting, I give you chapters of one greater story. Now I-

The Meatballs Epic. And also, I don't know that I've ever seen the first Meatballs, so why is it called Meatballs? Now, if I may, could I like take a moment to talk about the Meatballs series? Please, that's- If you'd like me to give you exactly the untreated, do that. Well, through it, do you want to make a ghoulies reference first? And kind of side-step to it, though. So, the original Meatballs was this low-budget film about a camp of summer camp.

Two brothers were opening an Italian restaurant. You're thinking of Big Knights? Oh, what's the, oh, it's a Heath Ledger and he's like, the first night? I think that's the little name of the thing. Oh, okay, then you know what, oh, maybe that's the night's tale. First night's Sean Conor.

Sean Conor and Richard. Okay, well anyway, the point is, meatballs was this little movie, I think it was like Canadian producers. Like, I have an right-man director, I think, and it was like, that might have been his first movie, but the point is like. I love that you're like,

let me talk about the Meatball series. Well, I don't know. I'm a little fuzzy on this part. I'm a little fuzzy on this part. But like, it's this little, it's like a guy who doesn't understand how, say, a piece of food like, maybe a Meatball would be made. He just knows how it tastes when it hits his mouth and tummy.

It's this little 1980s summer camp comedy that would be forgotten if not for Bill Murray who like this was his first major Hollywood comedy movie role starring role and he came in he basically one one thing just you said it was a little kind of little budget Canadian movie and suddenly this is his first big Hollywood starring role Maybe Mrs. Colombo, maybe we could understand it, but I'm not gonna be both of those things I'm just taking the final year your word choices. I get it. It is a movie that made him a nice It is I've been right, but he came in and he like basically improvised a lot of his lines Like they threw out a lot of the

Scripps when they saw what was working about the movie was Bill Murray and his relationship to this one kid that needed guidance and that brought the humor and the heart to the meatballs movie. So it was a minor success, certainly a good return on the investment. Now, Meatball's two was a unrelated summer cap strip that after Meatball became a success, they acquired the rights to the Meatball's name. And so they made this movie. Now, Meatball's three,

is that the one with the ghost of the porn star? Yes, you know, the Meatball series had been a PG series up until number three. When it became an R rated series where Sally Kelberman played the Ghost of a porn star helping a kid get laid and then also PG in the 70s, different than your current. Yeah, it's still still some swerve 80s and all of homophobic. Back in the day, PG movie could feature a werewolf surfing on top of a van and never be with that and on on now that would be you'd see if it's a rated R for

Where will they have a survey I mean there wasn't Swords of Period where like even PG comedies in the 80s are like got to throw some boobs in there Come to my our human body. I don't know what everyone's coming to our late live show in Boston and there may be a presentation about it Dun by run me so you can write off all the stuff you've been watching presentation about it done by me. So you get right off all the stuff you've been watching. You guys are so stressed. Yeah, but just to close it out, meatballs four starred Corey Feldman was also a sex comedy,

a lot of nudity in that. From what I understand, I'm not seeing it. But I am not seeing it. But in my research. But on the message boards, you frequent. In my rest of words, but in my resource, that research, that was also not supposed to be

a meatballs movie, and another unrelated script that just let the meatballs name on. That's kind of what it goes with the Howling movies, I think, too. Because the meatballs name carries so much weight at this point. And having mentioned the meatballs name again, so why is it called meatballs? Because I went to summer camp. I mean, I'm sure they served us meatballs at some point, but I was never like, hey, you know what's so special about the summer camp experience, the meatballs.

So, Charlotte, you have a history with the meatballs franchise. I remember loving the original meatballs movie. And kind of, I remember being a little kid and looking forward to my first- So you can you tell us why it's called Meatballs, please? No. But looking forward to like, I'm gonna go to summer camp

in three years. I'm gonna go to sleep white camp in two years. And like using that as a guide for what's gonna happen when I go to camp. Oh yeah. So I was like a little bit afraid of all the pranks. Yeah. They don't seem to have a lot of activities at the camp.

It's mostly just pranks and like, free floating kid walking around to that. I think it's a perfect time to get into this, this little plot here. Yeah, tell us a story. What's, what happens in this movie? Meepals part two of the continuing story of the Meepals. So Meepals part two opens, of course,

with the TriStar logo. It meatballs part two opens, of course, with the tri-star logo. It opens in media res on top of spaghetti. All covered with cheese. So I like it. Yeah, yeah. There's a bunch of detectives standing around being like, where's that poor meatball? Now, I'd like to mention the tri-star logo

of only because it's one of my favorite. Yeah, it's close. And every time I hear that music, the song, the chorus. BAM BAM BAM BAM BAM BAM BAM and it really brings me back to being a kid. Anything with a flying horse as long as there is on a Perseus on the back of it, I'm down.

Okay. So, no Perseus is allowed. So we then got to another production logo, and this one's a little bit of a little dig. A space production. That's the first time the movie little wings of the audience let you know this movie is gonna be out of this world put it on the box okay now we open in media res and a bus full of rowdy campers and we realized that this bus is traveling to camp sasquatch now is that the camp from the first meatballs movie

uh... i'm gonna guess it so uh... what you should watch while you're doing that uh... you want to mention the song waiting for the summer i can't stop singing waiting for the summer it It is obviously a hit song. It goes a little something like this. So that's crazy that they would save a gem like this for the sequel.

I guess they did. By the way, the original, sorry, the original camp and me both one was camp in North Star. We could carry on with this song. Sasquatch is better. So the song goes a little something like this. Okay. Does that your version of a pitch pipe?

Yeah, it's an elite. That is a little of the sound that a screen tastes to make. That's all video. Taste the note in your mouth before you sing it. There's a video online of a guy doing an ice cream taste. And he's going, Hmm, sweet. Voltae. And he's like he's starting to call a cat to him to lick the ice cream all and he's going sweet.

Voltae. And he's just, it's like he's trying to call a cat to him to lick the ice cream all the time. So, uh, wait for the summer. Wait, and then I'm waiting for the summer. And fun and then I summer. I mean, that's pretty accurate. Because they say when when waiting for the summer all year long, we've been waiting for the summer to sing this song. I'm like, did I write this song? You're like the swimming and the women and the women and the grim and I don't know.

You're like, when are we going to get to the summer? Is that like the tallest building in Philadelphia over here? Oh! Okay. So, who's driving that rowdy bus? Of course, that is Future Star Paul Rubens wearing an aviator cap, so you know this guy is a little bit wacky. The kids are rowdy, gets mad, they almost crash, etc. The bus is pulled over by a police car.

You think it's for driving, but no, the bus pulls them over because they are handing off a juvenile delinquent by the name of Flash, who has been ordered by order of a judge to serve out ascendant as a CIT, which we learned as a counselor in training. And he says there's either this or the military. Now, I may be prison. Wait, who is? Sorry, the bash.

Oh, yeah. The hero of the film. No, I believe they gave a similar, I believe, in the original script for Watchman, they gave Orchette the same. Now I believe they gave a similar I believe in the the original script for watchman they gave Orchette the same. Yeah, this is her I guess I'll take the summer camp you kids don't understand You're not stuck here with me. I'm stuck here with you. Isn't the other way around rochette? No, I'm I'm not happy to be here Her I can't follow my back so I'm a beginner. I guess I'll blow bubbles through my mask in the water Now this is a, this may be ridiculous.

No, sorry, I can see you want to say. It's like, it's color more, Rorschach, we didn't have to murder the other campers. More, more is more. This may be seen ridiculous for a movie like Meepalls 2 to raise any objections to the logic of the film. This is the first time I'm going on. Is this a thing that people get sentenced to be a camp counselor?

No. We're having a charge of some children. It's either go to jail or be the only person in charge of these children. And so, jail, please. And this still like went flash is kind of like a Brooklyn-y, like, cha-che-t Tide. Yeah, so I just want to like now I know why Charlene wanted to watch this.

He's a real Danny Zuko. Although throughout the rest of the movie, people repeatedly call him a dork, which I object to because he's clearly not a dork. No, but they call him a greaser pond. As I explain to them, I'm not a dork. I'm a town. Yeah. I believe that was the first time the phrase dork

was used in a movie. Don't look it up. Why should we start being accurate about anything? By the way, I confirmed that the first meatballs is where that irritating other that summer song comes from. I'm ready for the summer. You can come to your sources. We're ready for the good times.

Exactly. Now what I want to mention here is, so Flash meets his friend, Eddie, who was, I guess, already going to be in camp. And he's like, Flash, Flash the Bash. And then later on, he calls Flash Bash. And he's like, the name's Flash. And that kept being like, but your friend called to you that. But earlier, was that just like, it's okay for other like, goof, goof, goof, goof,

all the Bash, not just bad. Yeah, I guess that's a flash in here that special type of teenage camp counselor that are played by 30 year old men who smoke cigarettes all the time. We're also introduced to two young women who are going to camp one who is kind of demure dressing like an omniscience person named Cheryl. And her friend who's a little more outspoken, named Nancy. Nancy as Cheryl, are you from outer space? But that would be crazy because there's no way

this movie set in a summer camp would feature a character from outer space. Oh, no, no. I'm going to chime in with a lot of details about these actors as we go along. I just want to say. This is a new thing for you. I want to say that.

I like it, but it's new. I don't want Charlie into this usually happens. Now this is a mirror thing for you. I want to say that. I like it, but it's new. I don't want Charlie into this usually happens. Now this is a mirror like microchip or what's the character from the arrow TV show with the paralyzed or whatever? Oracle. Oracle, maybe. Is it?

I know watch Arrow, but Oracle would fulfill that role in the DC Universe of Barbara Gordon. This is something I have to break to his back so that he can be the role of. I can't believe he shoulder in the spine in a comic book that probably should not have been made part of the Batman canon. It's not really appropriate for all ages. So this demure lady is played by Kim Richards who was a child actress who I saw many times as a kid in Escape to Witch Mountain which played on Disney Channel all the time. Wait a second, which mountain? Oh boy. That was known to have in Castello Disney in the 1970s routine.

She had some... Escape to which mountain? That's what I'm trying to say. Yeah, that's what I want to know. She had some small success as an adult actress, mostly known as a child actress, but now mostly known what? Because she's one of the real housewives. Oh, really?

A witch? A Beverly Hills. Oh. Oh. Oh. How far the mighty of maw is to be false to? Do you mean I'm one of the most successful television dreams I've currently operating? She's one of the ones that are in jail?

I don't know. Well, well, Dan's research only takes us so far. He got most of that from a shoe shine boy that he pays five bucks to. Yeah, this is a, of key physios open. More information about Cheryl. What character we also introduced to in a race action race? Oh, okay. So at this point, the hit song starts back up again.

Oh man, you knew that it was like the beat drop for a second or is like the momma right before the slams kick in in a brutal death metal song So in the the bus is outpaced by a Loan masked figure riding in a motorized wheelchair a wheelchair that has a bumper sticker on the back that says Wheelchairs need room to zoom. I don't know where that's from And then we are I have backstory on that actor. Okay. And I don't have my phone in front of me. She's sitting around and telling me that all of the actors.

That's the kid that played Little Earl. There was a little Earl and Big Earl on what's happening. And he was the kid that used to hit on D. And he would be like, he would like wink at her. Oh, you can't see that I'm like, No, just nudging your elbows right now. He would wink at her and he would be like he would like wink at her. Oh, you can't see that I'm like no Just nudging your elbows. Yeah, he would wink at her and he would be like you and me and you know She would be like scram kid and of course later will meet the older brother from the one or years who's just one of the one of the kids And yeah, and of course I've got interesting Paul Ruben's story as long as we're trying to stories

It seems he decided to go out and catch a flick at the local theater seems he decided to go out and catch a flick at a local theater. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no sorry Stuart. Uh, was that before they had like little little spots but you're so to pop corn on the bar? Here's the interesting thing. He had to put the soda around and he had to put the popcorn in his lap. Okay. So there a hole in the bottom of the bar. Apparently there was and that's where the trouble begins. They apparently gave him a popcorn bucket with a hole in it.

And apparently his pants were particularly weak. Perhaps worn through by all of the stunson chin-a, because then it does this play house. When he saw the menu and it offered bottomless popcorn bucket, he thought nothing of it, assuming it was just going to be unlimited popcorn, but in fact, it was. He said, oh, I love free refills.

I do, I must say, because he loves Ed grimly Jr. And he's always voting at grimly Jr. In his sparey side. Very strange, because someone might say he's sort of a lower budget version of his popular character, can you hear me? And that's why he felt like a real connection to it. There is the funniest thing I ever saw people

him and do, and I'm a big P. We're Herman fan. I love his, I love to show as a kid. Was he, what you're gonna say, fart in the face I'm a big P. We're herman fan of his I love to show as a kid was he was a far far in the face of Jeffrey Russia Oscar winner not what I was going to say when did he do that in the in

mystery man. Oh right. Jeffrey Russia's follow-up roll to the one that won the Academy of L. Orchard. That it was right after shine. Yeah. Okay. I boy. I mean, it was. What do you play scassin over for you? Like, mystery shows that he has a lot of range that people have heard him in or probably. He was on, he was a quick, fire judge on top chef once. And he's like, I love pancakes. Let's make, make me some pancakes. And he goes

the first person and judge the first chef. And he's like, these are without a doubt the greatest pancakes I've ever had. And they're like, Oh, thank you. And he goes to the next people in Tres and he was, these are without a doubt the greatest pancakes I've ever had. And they're like, oh, thank you. And he goes to the next people in Tresnows, these are without a doubt. The greatest pancakes I've ever had. And he said it to every single chef. And by the end, they were like, just get it, just say it, whatever.

I was like, this is the reason he was so stupid all over the whole concept of them competing in pancakes. But okay, so they get to camp, right? So we watch a bus trying to outrace a wheelchair to Novel. We get to the camp, we get to camp Sasquatch and that's when Stewart got very excited because Star of Empty Ness himself Richard Mulligan comes out. Yeah, he is great. As the head of the camp Gidey. Gidey. Was he in the first movie? Since as Dan says, this is not is an unrelated film, I think he's the Bill Murray. I have to assume he is.

He was named, he was, he was, in kind of a prophecy named for the catchiest, but also most annoying song from Sparks' last album, hip-hop, a song called Gidey, or then called Gidey Gidey, which I love, but which drives. Anyone who's not me or my son in saying upon listening to it, so his name is Gidey.

Sure, so we're introduced to some more. For Gideon, I don't know. To Gideon, yeah. Yeah. Sounds like a common book character. We're introduced to two new characters. They're a pair of counselors. We have Jamie and Fanny. And now Jamie, his character, his goal is constantly to try and get Fanny alone so that they can consummate their relationship And he makes illusions to her chest quite a bit now Jamie I just want to Jamie is played by Archie hon

You might remember as being a character actor in several Joe Dante movies. Okay, I'd take you with some parts I don't know like in Grimm was to he's one of the guys in the control room. We're making fun of him Okay Like so what if you're on an was to he's one of the guys in the control room. We're making fun of him Okay Like so what if you're on an airplane? It's going over the time exactly and Fanny is played by Misty Row who was one of the ladies in he ha and later a playboy Woman of the month anyway, so Coming of the month. The kids, this is their wellness.

Look, I find the term playmate demeaning, but I will mention that she was in playboy. And you spell woman with a Y. I would just say playboy, we're warming up the month. I also want to mention, I just want to remind you that the wheelchair kid is named Tommy McVeigh, which is never comes up again, I think. So they make a big stink of it, is it name? We now get a little bit of a montage of different kids arriving and being dropped off a camp.

There's a lot of bits. We're introduced to a couple of twins. We see, and this is when I started getting a little distracted because Elaine Boosler shows up to warn her daughter about the perils of men and she took the two good jokes in the movie to my way of thinking like I actually found her lines funny. Yeah, she's a lame Boosler total dreamboat and then we get that scene where a pair of brace-faced teens are making out and rips the braces off of one another which is like a little early in the movie for body horror

and rips the braces off of one another, which is like, little early in the movie for body horror, but I guess you can do that. Yeah, the crone ever had dropped by the set one day. Do you think that you'd have direct a shot? Yeah, the Sasca sister stepped in, but this one, the real horror is how much is it gonna cost to fix those braces. Oh, I get to make that joke, I'm a dad.

No, okay. We're introduced to a kid who's super into taxidermy, you know, the normal thing, a little candy-beeling kid who has a briefcase full of candy. He's a black market candy dealer. And in general, like, at least I got the feeling like these were all city kids who were just out in the boonies for a summer.

Which is what summer camp is. There's no reason to go. I mean, not me, I grew up in Indiana, which was a fairly rural area. I've been living in the summer camp. Well, I like day camp, so I went to soccer cam. No, that's not the same. I grew up in Nauwa's, Villanola, actual name, Grieka.

And, and I- This is a place that put a cover story about Dan and the newspaper. Now he's fucking dragging him on our shit. Well, I mean, the town didn't do that. I didn't get the key to the city like it was a Newspaper, okay, I guess it's not good enough for you Wow, yeah, yeah, but you're gonna notice Dan's demands key to city

Slime your favorite son not Ronald Reagan since I was probably well he just went to college there Ben Zobris Just probably the favorite so that Ben Zobris base baseballzo Briss. Benzo Briss. Oh, he's a sports fan. Oh, he made me very very very successful player for the cups. But um, no, I, I, my town was tiny and I still went, I went to church camp in the summer. But those are not the same things. Well, but it's a, it's still a camp. Like I like my parents, like my parents were religious, but I think that the main reason they were sending me to camp was the same reason anyone gets into camp

is one, get out of the house. So you can do it. And it's a way, yeah. Two, you should see some of the outdoors rather than do what I did, which would stay inside all the time playing the Nintendo Entertainment System and watching movies and reading. If your camp had Nintendo movies and movies, it was not a camp.

No, that's what he did. It was a fire. I sat on like, I was like the kid who in, uh, in, what was that like, fifth or sixth? No, it was in like fourth grade where my teacher got mad at me because during recess I would stay in and read about, uh, like reptiles and shit and she's like, I want to have my lunch without a fucking kid around. Yeah. Uh, I, Charlene, you and I, I want to have my lunch without a fucking kid around

Charlene you and I I think are on the same page on this one because we both I think had the tri-state Jewish going this summer camp Yeah, all summer experience where you go because it's the only time you're gonna do outdoor things Yes, and you try to run away and eventually get kicked out early because you threw a rock through a window We both had that experience, right? I got not invited back. Okay, that's fair. You just went. So yeah. Oh yeah, I hated swimming too.

Yeah. Mm-hmm. We have so much in common. I know. Yeah, we just spent more time together. We don't know about that. I don't know. So when I were introduced with the second conflict,

the first being the conflict of Jamie versus Cruel Fate keeping him from fanning. The second conflict is... The second main conflict is between Kemp Sasquatch, which we've always already been introduced to, and the rival across the lake, Kemp Patton and Evil Military Kemp run by Colonel Batjack Hershey, which Batjack is a name where I'm like, you can name your kid that? Elliott, why haven't you been naming your children Batjack? That's a good question. My guess is it's, actually, I don't know, it reminds me of the

question name. It's a Christian name. It's a question. Maybe I guess it's a Christian name. Yeah, we were like, should we name him, should we name him Batjack? And I was like, two goi. I guess it might be that,

and it might be just a nod to Blackjack Pershing, the world were one general. So we have, we have, we're introduced to Hershey, the guy who leads the camp, and he's this tiny little like patent parody Who says a lot of terribly homophobic stuff and I cannot endorse patent parody patent Lather is and he is backed up by his his major Domo

John play by John Lerick at what's it Lieutenant Foxcloth? Yeah, I think so. Who is a fairly offensive, is it a closeted gay man? He is a barely closeted gay man. He's a gay stereotype. The best that can be said about this character is it could be much worse. He's knowing the year that this was making it. Here's what I'll say about it.

It is on its face offensive. And it's only I think because John Lerakette makes him feel like a real character to a certain extent that he's able to pull it off. And that it is one of those parts that John Lairicat should not have done, but he manages to, for me at least, he managed to, every joke about Fox Club or that Fox Club makes is offensive to me,

but he manages to get the character such a sense of dignity. He is always above whatever is going on that I'm like, okay, he's in, he's in doing this character with more than deserves, you know. It seemed like the, the, the, what pattern, what was his name, the little attack. A bad Jack.

Bad Jack, it seemed like it was almost like, he was an idiot from making those jokes, and John Larkin. Well, the, the, the, the, the, He ultimately is the villain in the next level of the movie. And the ultimate joke is, the big joke is supposed to be that he doesn't notice that Fox Gloves is so obviously gay. And at one point, Lisp's, and he's like, I hate Lisping, or something, and he's like,

oh, did I do it? Oh no. But it is still the jokes themselves. Yeah, the jokes are just like, days exist. And also, by the end of it, Fox Glove, someone has to escape from the military camp, we'll get to it and steals from Fox Glove's dresses. And it's like, yep, in the 80s, I guess, cross dressing and being gay, same exact thing. Every bit drag and gayness goes together.

Like, it's just, We can talk about how the real element of that sequence that doesn't make any sense is that a dress that seems to fit flash perfectly in no way would fit a very tall John Lerica. It's also an incredibly doubty cocktail dress though. Like, the Focci love has a sense of style and always about him.

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It's that we know that everything is going to hang in the balance on the champ of the lake, a boxing match that will between them and between Camp Sasquatch and Camp Patton. Flash meets with his bunk, which of course is made up with all of the the rascals we've already been introduced with, including, as Dan mentioned earlier, the older brother from the Wonder Years, who is now a Elliott. Elliott mentioned that. Elliott, you're a Dan the Greta. I guess you're pretty similar right? I had so much going on in my life

I think I have a good result Dan's been dropping the IMDB show He's the one who's been getting us in the know on all these people's history I did a deep dive on the meatballs too Yeah, this is the one way back on the deep dive

It's amazing this is the one movie that Dan has been motivated to be like I gotta get to the bottom of it I woke up for this one I feel like we should do all the meatballs movies. But is there another member of the cabin you have to show up? We'll get to that in a second. You have the girls make friends with each other. There's some more homophobic stuff, according to my notes.

Is this what they talk about? As nightfalls. As nightfalls on the camp. And there's one more camper that has to arrive. That's right. A spaceship from outer space shows up, piloted by aliens. Meanwhile, they're interrupting Jamie and Fanny, who are just trying to get a little bit of a loathing time.

The aliens arrive, they are apparently Jewish. Yeah, oh yeah, the mother I'm not so sure, but the father is certainly so very Jewish. They are, as my notes say, good-ass specialists. The eyes on the alien costume are much better than they should be when it comes to blinking. And I have to, I like- Much better than the mouth, certainly.

You think they were designing a butt body. You want the thing that takes in nutrients and keeps the body alive to function better than the eyes that blink. Also, we don't even know how it takes in nutrients. It's true. It could be through the butt. We don't know.

The thing also that you're going to notice the most, because the alien is talking much more than it's winking. They do it design. But I have to admit, so the one thing that makes me think that the people who made this movie knew what they were doing county wise is that the alien kid's voice is so blandly normal.

It is the only joke that I'm like admirated is that the alien kid's like, yeah, hey dad, oh hey what's going on? That's how the alien's out. It's like the robot janitor and rotor where I was like, oh, there was some genius that worked here. It's been easy for you, it's like, what is canoe?

But it's like, yeah, I don't want to go to camp dad. No, no, no, no. It's a good bit. And we'll get back to him later. He just spears on the darkness. Yeah. He's fairly, you think you'd be a larger part of the movie.

It just appears for long stretches of it. There's a, but this is a jumping way ahead, but it speaks to the design of the alien. So I wanna just say this, like, there's a running gag in the movie where like, the alien can like walk through things, right? So you're like totally bearing the lead on the coolest power he had.

The only power he had. Hold on, hold on. Well, let's go, let's go. The second power. He's got a couple of powers. He's got a couple of powers. One of them is he can walk through things and like, there's a scene later on where the kids are like,

you can't walk through things, you gotta, you can't draw attention yourself despite the fact that he looks like an alien. So that's the first time. He's wearing a ring coat. A bright yellow ring coat. And then at the end, like, as he's leaving the camp for the last time, he's like,

starts to walk through the door and the kids are like, oh, As he's leaving the camp for the last time he's like starts to walk through the door and The the kids are like oh Meatball or whatever Meatball makes sense They're like me head. Oh, you're at it again. He's like sorry, and then like he goes back and he uses his other power Which is like to telekinatically open the door, but I was like but before he tells you open the door I'm like how are they gonna handle this one? Cause this is clearly not,

he does not have an articulated arm, but he can open the door with, what are they gonna do? And he's like, oh, she's my other superpower. Yeah, I love that scene where the kids got mad at him for just walking through trees. And he's like, he's like, hey, you guys go on ahead. I'm gonna practice walking around stuff. And they're, okay, like what kid is like, okay, we'll leave the alien

We're heading out to go to fucking lunch The aliens they got blood there their calendar We'll meet up for a drink I can't as lunch they're serving the exerroneous again apparently I'm from another planet and I have magic powers. Oh Tuesday's not good for me this week's kind of grand Maybe I don't know so maybe let's do Wednesday. No, let's do September There's also I will I won't just want to mention that the way the movie handles the alien I have to assume that the mood they first commissions like Jack Davis to do a poster where all the characters are

chasing somebody and he just threw in whoever he wanted and they were like shit there's an alien there's like a kid on a wheelchair running a bus like I guess this is in the movie now we don't have no money to cut to make Jack Davis go back and make changes. I felt like they made the movie and then they saw ET and they were like, we got to make an ET! And they like had to put like, and they like threw a minute to last time. Yeah, the movie they had made was only, I don't know, like a trim 24 minutes long. We had to throw it in any case. It was a pilot-fished for the Meatball series.

Well, we got to expand it for the European theatrical more of this. Okay, so we're briefly introduced, it's the next morning, we're briefly introduced to the French cook of the camp, who is also a drinker. He's, there's a weird, they don't quite understand the bit, the giddy is like no fancy foods, I want meatloaf, I want burgers, but the rest of the movie is Renee looking at every horse and just trying to make it, trying to steal it so you can cook it It's a very it's like what's the gag? Yeah, the gag is a fancy French cook or that he's a he's a

He's not makes sense although speaking of gags like that's again There are a few gags in the movie that work for me and one of them is Like seeing Renee like trying to carry half of it like a full dead horse To game like a rigor portus Holding that trying to carry half of it like a full dead horse. It's a game like a rigor mortis pulling the head of it and then like dropping it as he's trying to get out of gurney. So now the the the kids from flashes bunk get into a little scuffle outside of the with the bathroom. Yeah, the outhouse because it's somebody's been in there too long. They need to go to the bathroom. So our friend in the wheelchair hooks up a grappling hook or a grapple to the door and he's like,

I'll pull the door open. They pull it open, of course. Hiding inside is the kid who can face through walls. That's right. Meathead are alien friend. They meet with them, they talk to them, they seem kind of into it. Like they're pretty, who wouldn't be, he's an alien. But they're accepting of him, they. And how did he get his name? So one of the characters, his name's Ted, I think, and he goes me, Ted, and then goes me, Ted, and they're like, that's his name, I guess, me, Ted.

Uh huh, and the funny thing is that like, he's pretty adept at all other aspects of English language. Yeah, speaks English. At one point they're like, you want to go do this and he's like, I'd rather eat a big Mac. And then of course at that point, I'm sure McDonald's paid for that because that's huge product placement.

Yeah, well that's a friend of mine, Kevin Marr. He has a theory that Mac and me, that it was that Mac and me I think was a rip off of Meatballs 2, not a VC. because not meatballs too introduced the idea of an alien eating an amber it's weird and his father says one point like oh I gave you those English lessons for yeah so that you have a reason to use them so like why they have this like I don't understand you I it doesn't make a sense I don't well and I don't know why they're making all this effort to explain why he knows English it doesn't matter. He's a fucking alien

Land of the apes the apes know English and Charlton has to never put fucking two and two together They are on earth. It takes the statuary from the real as oh, you mean English didn't arise naturally on this The same way as did here Charlton has seen this a huge dumb ass I mean he's an astronaut so he can't be that dumb, but on the other hand He is an astronaut who doesn't seem to know like how to wear clothes I believe for Wayne Indiana according to the movie so that kind of Also this alien Is is attending this summer camp because his parents want him to go to summer camp on earth

But they're like thing is like just like dropping like they didn't Like they're just just basically being like, it'd be like, if you alienate, like, as Sammy got older, just like, push him out like near a summer camp. They're like, think you're an F. Hey, sink or swim. I'm sure there's a dark horse comic posh-yling.

That's what happened to the predator and the movie predator. What happened if a kid just showed up at camp? I mean, they probably called up the parents or the police. I'll tell you what happened. I'll tell you what happened when a kid disappears from camp. They call your parents and they make you go home. Yeah, yeah.

Because they don't want you to leave without permission. I left without permission a few times, but I came back. Oh, see, I left to go and I got in trouble. Yeah. They're like, you stole a bindle from our Bindle room. They're like, they found me around, they found me around a barrel fire telling my tail to a bunch of other bows and beans out of a can. You like made a little fake beard out of like a suit?

Yeah, well my parents were most mad that I took my new good hiking boots and I cut the toes out so that I would have hobo boots. Yeah, hobo boots. Yeah. Hobo boots. Hoboots. Cool. So we now, you know, it's the next day. Flash follows the Nancy and Cheryl who he is interested in to the gym where they are having a really cool aerobics class that devolves into madness. This is another question I have. There should be a lot of activities for the counselors at this camp. Not a lot for the kids. The female characters campers are counselors. I couldn't tell.

I thought they were counselors. It's actually a pretty good question because like, are they, is Cheryl a camper? Because then if a counselor is training is hounding after that, brings up some strange power to an egg. I've never seen her with kids I Shoot as a counselor because I feel like there are two levels of like ages of people at this Probably young kids and then but it's just strange like there's a whole aerobics class just for counselor aged people Yeah, yeah, so at this point flash on I think there's supposed to be campers You think so because they have because Fanny is the counselor over them. Just like flash is the counselor over his kids. But he could be a CIT and they could be like the oldest campers. That could

kind of work. Yeah. I mean, that's it's a lot of ethical boundaries that are, you know, we don't want to think about. Yeah. And the scene where Gidey kisses the kid in the wheelchair is not okay. Yeah. No, that didn't happen. Did I fall asleep? Yeah. So Flash gets in a boxing match with Boomer, Camp Sasquatch's resident boxing champion, who's kind of like a dumb Rocky Balboa tie.

And I couldn't figure out if he was a camp roller counselor, all he seems to be just be the camp's boxer and resident. He's a sports player. Yeah, he's this older guy who's just a boxer. And it's like, I don't know if he's there. Yeah, he's the handy man who's just a boxer and it's like The only thing we ever see him do is the only we ever see him do is box and have a canoe on his head And you can't see where he's going and he's going the wrong direction So after the gym we cut to a scene in the women's bunk

This is an important sequence because we learn an important it's similar to when you're watching or reading a clockwork orange and you're trying to understand the dialect. At this point, we've been introduced to the term pinkies. In my head, I think of, of course, baby mice. Baby mice that are fed to other larger animals. But in this case, no, we learn that pinkies means a man's penis. They're looking at pinkies, just to use their terminology in a play girl magazine, a play girl magazine that touts an interview with Sally Field on the cover. That's really why they happen. And we realize that Cheryl's, though

Cheryl has a mysterious past that hopefully will be explained over the course of the movie, she may have never seen a pinky before. So the Nancy decides to help Cheryl and the rest of the bunk kind of band with her. Their goal is to let her see a pinky. So it's kind of like a gender swap on the traditional like screw balls type. No, I get sex comedy. I do enjoy that. This is a movie where the women are like the horny ones. They're the one sort of driving that plot, but it also gives you kind of a hint to the tone of this movie, which is like sex comedy with all the sex scenes

added it out, because you kind of keep thinking that like this is going to be an 80s TNA comedy, and then like it never gets around to any of that. I didn't find any T, Damned in C&EA. And the ampersand in the middle, well, don't even talk to me about it. Yeah. Very mad. No, it's a, it feels like they are trying to, yeah, they're trying to do a sex comedy for kids, which is, but that's like, No, it feels like they're like, oh, you're gonna say Apple night always plays a sex comedy with the stuff edited out. Let's just do their work for them. It's also like, it wasn't a USA poll not yet. They had the red and a Cassandra. It's bad. It's one of those movies that,

you know, it just, it gives a really skewed view of what summer camp is like. It makes things like the kids have the run of the place and also that like kids are just having sex with each other, I guess or like plotting these things and like at some point some of you I'm going to do the counselors were certainly running off to have sex with each other sometimes I guess but like the kids were Mostly busy like I don't know do kids stuff just like being kids, you know making bracelets playing Like making bracelets. Yeah playing games during the Burger King kids club. So yeah, yeah, being IQ or wheels We see the the the kids from the bonk have taken meat had the alien kid to a

Outhouse graveyard where they make the decision to have him live I guess They abandon this pretty quickly. Yeah, the alien lives live in this toilet But there is I feel like this movie is in a nutshell, is in capsule in this scene where an alien says, did somebody fart? Mm-hmm. I'm like, that's this movie, an alien asking if somebody farted. Cut to across the lake where the leader of that camp

is meeting with a racist caricature of an Native American chief, who is offering up water rights to the lake. I guess for whatever reason he hands over the deed to the lake. I don't know what he's giving them in return, but he has somehow. He has really established. He somehow weedled this out of the way. Luckily that character doesn't show up at all

until the very end for what I thought was a pretty good joke. We then go to, stay tuned. Yeah, we're starting, John Ritter. We see the camp pattern like military guys riding over in boats to Camp Sasquatch. They start laying down, immediately laying down Razor wire and ushering kids off the docks and the head of the camp meets with Gidey and he starts making ultimatums. Meanwhile we do get the good joke of who's the Renee is taking a

comically dead fake horse out of a truck title to Belmont Stakes. It's kind of not played enough to be the joke that I think the movie wants to be, but I think that works I believe that the good, Richard Mulligan is that his name? Yes. I can't believe you have to ask Richard Mulligan's name. I'm just confirming. The good can. He starred in the best spin-off of Golden Girls that there was.

It's true. Amdyn Est. He was the crazy-meaning Golden Girls. He was also in a sleep away camp movie. Oh, no. I like the gag here is supposed to be that like Richard Mulligan is kind of like this touch. He's running this touchy-feely new age camp. Yeah.

And like they don't play that up quite as much as they play up the military nature of the bad camp. Yeah. But that's supposed to be like the comic contrast. They needed a scene where like they talk about nature or something like that or a scene where they talk about like it doesn't matter if you win or lose. You just gotta have fun. That kind of thing. Like view of rehabilitation of prisoners, which is not about punishment It's about reforming this person into a member of society, you know contributor. Yeah, that makes sense

And I've mentioned stakes earlier. Well, this is where we get the stakes of the movie We learn that uh the stake of the stakes of the movie is that by the end of the summer The camp pattern will own the rights to the lake and that they're gonna have to most likely close camps ask watch because you can't have a camp without a lake. However, the tables are quickly turned as Gidey surprises us by dressing up some of his counselors as Harry Krishnas who caper about on the shore, which makes the head of camp Patton come over worried that those Harry those hurry Christian is going to ruin his camp, I guess. Yeah, and he's like, what uses a camp without a lake? So I'm selling the camp to them and they can build their temple here. Camp patent, or the head of camp patent,

even though he has met Paul Rubens' character, it doesn't seem to realize that Paul Rubens is the leader of these hurry questions. Yeah, I mean, he flicked them off like right before he walked into a room. And it's not like you could say, well, he's used to sing Paul Rubens with hair. He's not. He's used to sing him with an aviator's cap on.

Almost exactly the same when he's wearing like a bald cap or something to be a hair-carrishment. Yeah. So get a lays down and ultimate him. He says, I will not sell the camp if you let us determine who owns the lake by who wins the champ of the lake boxing competition That's right that thing mentioned earlier that we're very excited about which was a really Square running business negotiation because if he had him over a barrel like that. Yeah, you should have just said

We want we want use of the lake Why like put up put the steak so high? I don't know I mean and also considering that camp patent later on, sees nothing wrong with kidnapping people. Yeah, and throwing grenades at people. Your name? Children are wondering what's going on with grenades. And then I don't understand why this was such an issue.

Yeah. Yeah, almost immediately, the camp patent hires Sergeant Paladin, cool name, to go and neutralize boomer the camp sask watches uh... resident boxing car boxer dummy guy uh... we then get a dance party that is staffed it's filled almost entirely with adults and a few children there's many moustaches in evidence i mean the one thing the one thing that ran true to me is that at my summer camps they were always making us do dances. Yeah, nobody wanted to do. So Flash is there. He tries to impress Charlotte. Flash is friend Eddie Sheryl, one mistake.

Flash is friend Eddie starts dancing with Nancy. You know, everybody's hooking up. The Sergeant Paladin from Camp from Camp Patt patent brings a elite team of military kids let's call him kid commandos kid commandos he dumps out a big bag of brass knuckles for them all to use they wait for boomer to finish getting ready boomer who we've established is done and also apparently has a real body odor issue because he keeps putting on on deodorant and then smelling himself and being not happy with the results. They trick him by claiming that they are him in the bushes. They say, like it's boomer here so he's like, goes

to investigate that they beat him within much of his life, but brass knuckles breaking his arm. These are kids and they hit him so hard as arm broke. I mean, maybe Paladin took part in the care of that part, but. Yeah, they must practice the fists of the Norstar over there. So, Jamie and Fanny at the same time are trying to get alone. They, while at the same time, Nancy convinces Eddie to surprise Cheryl by... Well, here's one of the weird things about it. Is that this, they set up a very kind

of semi-alabra prank while the camp is having a viewing of the movie Shockwaves, which is a horror movie about Nazi zombies that come out of a lake and kill people, and it is a strange choice for a movie night at a summer camp with kids. I believe I can... The idea that is very well lit. Yes, I believe I can hear that is very well lit. I believe I can explain that story. I'm sure it's a movie that either they, they, they, someone who made this movie was involved with where they bought the right.

Yes, the director of this is the director of shock. Okay, and now when I was a kid, they, we did it in summer camp, we did a thing once a summer where everybody had a big sleep over in the cafeteria. When the kids were awake, they watched, you know, we watched, you know, a kid movie, then when the younger kids went to Ferngully or something, there's one year where it's Ferngully, then I didn't watch the movie. I've talked about before about how I've never seen

all of Ferngully, then the younger kids went to sleep and then we watched the great outdoors, and then when those kids went to sleep, the counselors, and whichever kids were still awake, I guess, watched Stripes, and it was like, only when we back now, I'm like, it wasn't like the kids were in a different room, they were all just there, but asleep, while Stripes was playing. But it was 80s back now. I'm like it wasn't like the kids were in a different room They were all just there but asleep while stripes was playing. Yeah, 80s pg. We're 79 I think yeah

That's it's kind of like when I was watching Chernobyl at home with my wife Charlene asleep on the couch next to me and there were Like there were episodes where I'm like dear God. I hope Charlene does not open her eyes for a but a moment like a dragon from secret of nymph So she convinces Eddie to what streak or like open to streak through the girls cabin and with the implication being if you streak through the girls cabin and Cheryl sees your penis I'm gonna have second you. Yeah, and at that point her curse will be lifted. She'll have let Cheryl see a pinky and she her work is done. Now she can leave this or she can play and she'll have to. Yeah. Or maybe or maybe he thinks that the women will just be driven so crazy that he'll achieve every guy's dream of being torn to

shreds like at the end of the pocket. Don't most guys think that like if they can get someone to see their penis they won't be able to control. I mean that is what many men believe. I feel like most of my rides on the subway have proven that to be true. They believe that women have the same reaction to male genitals, that men have to female genitals, which is a complete loss of control or mental process. Yeah, we start saying hello to a nurse who isn't even

there or eyeballs pop out of the sockets. And you're like, that's enough. Our tongues get lengthened and fall on the ground. We don't even mind that our tongues are touching the ground, which is disgusting. Because before we know it, our head's turned into a steam whistle from an old factory. And it's like, how does our brain fit in there? Where did our eyes go? I don't understand.

I mean, the heat involved you require that kind of a steam whistle function. It would be certainly dangerous for a human body. At the very least, you'd be instantly dehydrated, worst case scenario in diabetes stroke in a moment. So I think what men forget is often, I just want to, before you go to those, I think what men forget is that the female body is beautiful and the male body, as I forget,

was it a lean-buzzler or reader-right-for-get-who-what, which comedian referred to it as looking like a half-decorated Christmas tree? So now we have the plan. Fanny and Jamie have made plans to hook up, finally finding some alone time in this whirlwind of campers. And Eddie is going to surprise Cheryl by showing up in their bunk naked. However, what they did not count on are pranks.

Oh, pranks. Pranks. Everyone's a kill his heel. Pranks. That's right, those kids we had talked about earlier swapped the removable bunk signs from the numbers of the bunk. From the numbers of those bunk.

So I was assuming that these love crazed maniacs that would show up would not notice. Now here's where we- The switcheroo, that would not be out of place in a mid-summer night's dream. Yeah, no. Yeah. Yeah.

There's something about this bit that also punctures another subplot of the movie because they move the numbers on the bunks between the girls' cabin and Fanny's cabin. Ah, here's the rub. Fanny has her own cabin. And what's what's what's Jack what's No, no, what's the what's the guy who's always trying to have sex with? No, no, no, what's the Jamie Jamie? Jamie is constantly trying to find a place to have sex with Fanny. Why doesn't he do it in her private room?

Well, well meatballs part two I believe I Will you come to the end of this case as it's exhibit A. Meatballs, I find you guilty of being dumb. So we get the scene of Jamie and Eddie kind of like crossing paths and crisscrossing, not knowing where they're going. And Charlene pointed out the best part is when Jamie's about to go into the bunk and he like rubs his hands together with like a little yummy face. So he goes from his hands because he's like, I'm gonna have something great and something both go into the wrong cat. Finally the sweetest treat, human affection. He's like, oh, if Thornton Wilder was right in the bridge of St. Louis Ray,

and love is the bridge, then I'll be experiencing it tonight. It's a sweet, effervescent euphoria. So, love. They show up. They, Eddie flashes a newly awoken fanny. Jamie is in a camp full of what I can only assume are much younger women in their terrified. He's in his of course union suit underwear. Yeah, he's wearing this like crazy.

It's like also it's summer camp. It's like a monkey. He's wearing without the pants. It's like a long sleeve. It looks like it's a classic butt flap like long underwear. Like a plastic. Did he wear a custom made dress? It is a bottle.

I mean, he's wearing, I guess they ordered, he called a tailor, he said, get me the most comical neck garments. I mean, at this point, Jamie has been, like he has been trying to, he's been waiting for this moment for so long. We could only assume. But the thing is, whenever the plan gets thwarted,

she gets so mad at him. She's very mad at him. Like, she's wanting to be alone with him, and then he's like, okay, I'll set this up, and then when they get interrupted, she's like, how dare you? She's like, slap the... Yeah, slap space.

I mean, he's also not very good in the clutch, because whenever he gets flustered, he starts referring to her press. But I love them. I mean you, that kind of thing. Now of course, but he gets off easy because how does she respond to Eddie shoving his penis here? Oh, so she grabs the double barrel shotgun, which is a perch right next to her bed stand,

which seems like a strange for a camp. I don't have very much. We know there's a bear issue with the cancer. I mean, it's called Camp Sasquatch and I assume because someone shot a Sas calc. I'm gonna have very much so. We learned there's a bear issue with the answer. I mean, it's called Camp Sasquatch, and I assume because someone shot a Sasquatch. Sasquatch, and the head is mounted above the box same ring. And they figure that Harry's family will be back to try to get them. Harry's family, you might think they're called a Henderson's.

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that the last thing they did was Harry's Law. That seems to be a running thing. Almost always the king. You mean the last thing they did like, and then they died afterwards? No, like if you go like three projects down, it's like, oh, Harry's Law. Like where do we know this guy?

Let's check IMDB. Oh my God, they're on an episode of Harry's Law. Look how many seasons of Harry's Law were there. Is she Harry? I don't law. How many seasons of Harrys was there? Is she Harry? I don't know. I think she was Harry. I think Bates was Harry, yeah. And with the Henderson's in it?

No, I mean, the honor project, that was. That was why it was puckishly amusing for me to slam them together. Oh, Harry's still the HAIR one? No, that's Harry. That's a different word. I think it's kind of a joke. I think they call him Harry because he's Harry. Maybe like me.

Oh, there's a scene. He like, there maybe John Lithgow is reading a book about Harry. David McCullough's biography of Truman. Instead of saying Truman, he says Harry, because that's what he's thinking. Truman's different. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

He makes X-cladding, when he's reading the book. Yeah, well, you have to imagine that David McCullough, when he saw that the Truman Show started Jim Carrey's going, he was like, well, Jim Carrey is a strange choice to play the president I wrote a 1200 page book on, but I can't wait to see him. He got his popcorn and a generously large soda. Oh, no.

I'm in his hands. And didn't even see the movie because he was so horrified at what Paul Rubens was doing in the row over. And he walked out into this day, David McCullough still thinks the Truman show is about President Harry Truman. Now you know the rest of the story. Harry's law lasts for only for 34 episodes by the way. 34 episodes of Harry's law. It's a better run than like Capitol Critters. Look, you know, it's two seasons. It's more than a season and a half. More than beloved animated show Tukin Birdie Day.

Tukin Birdie. Oh, do you like it, Canceled? I like it. I can't. So, the next day is birdie going to be okay? I'm going to take this guy to the project's line then. The next day. I'm just glad, if we get any episodes of a show about two lady birds who live in a world

where buildings and boobs, then I feel like America has done its job. So, you know, let's be thankful for what we had. So, the next day. Is that lady bird is about Tukun birdie? Flash. Because they're just two friends, right? Flash finally has a little bit of a loan time in the bunk. So he whips out a little joint and starts smoking the devil's weed. Thinking he's all alone, not so my friend,

he is joined by Meathead, the alien, who phases through the wall like Shadowcat. And Flash is only barely phased because of the aforementioned reaper. Uh-huh, he sees Meathead, he's like, he looks at the joint like a hobo might look at a... a bottle of Mad Dog 2020 in a paper bag and he decides to throw it away. But luckily, Mid-Ed shows that he has other powers. He has Tullik and Issa, so he catches

the joint mid-air and then being a child puts it in his mouth and starts smoking it, which makes him float up to the ceiling of the cabin. It was the 80s every week. It was so much stuff was new in the 80s. Bolojabs, marijuana, they didn't know how these things made people react. So then the kids show up and are like, meet it, what's going on?

Meet had obviously, he was only high in the figurative sense or the literal sense I suppose. That's how aliens get high. They literally... Oh, that makes so much more sense. Different effect, yeah. If only Ripley had used that tactic. Same way like Goats don't get poisoned, Ivy.

Wait, Ripley had, wait, well yeah, Goats don't get poisoned, that's right, and that's where they've eaten them. So Ripley, if she had gotten the alien super high, like they would have solved the problem. Yeah, that's a slow way. Because the problem is the alien is eating people, right? So super high, it's gonna eat more people.

No, it's gonna be, it'll float up to the sky We we've already addressed with I mean We kind of does that without the drugs by shooting it out the airlock Yeah, I feel like it's a lot of work like in the Nostromo. I don't know what float up to the sky I mean just gonna be bumping his head up against the top of that no up in space I mean that's the like that's the thing and then you got an alien that just I guess hopefully it's a high enough ceiling That when he lunges at you. Yeah, ducked down you know and just laugh at him. I mean it depends on the budget.

Um, of what the Nostromo? So, we've already seen that he can go up in the roof and then just drop down and kill Harry and Ian Stan in that room that's full of wet chains for some reason. Dan why does the Nostromo, a spaceship, have a room full of wet chains? I don't understand. What's in that room? I mean why are they shooting the grinds in that room? Yeah, they're shooting a prodigy video in there. I assume that number one is just

their chain storage room. Okay. It's where they store their chains. And number two, the room is so big that it has its own condensation that creates. All right, that's fair. That's better than how the trash compactor on the Death Star has both organic waste and metal waste, which means does the Empire recycle poop? And that's like the recycling, I don't understand. Cause if so, who's the real bad guy? So the other young campers show up, they realize that Flash has already seen their friend

Meadhead and they explain everything. And Flash realizes maybe he's a bit of bad counselor this summer. friend Meathead and you know they explain everything and flash realized you know maybe he's been a bad counselor this summer. Well whatever. He even has trouble when they introduce their friend as their alien friend as Meathead. He's like meat head. Like it's their words he's never heard before. And which is crazy because all the family was a huge show when he was young so flash realized the only thing you can do is volunteer to fight in the champ of the like man sometimes it takes a meeting with an alien while you're high

to get you know understand you ever responsibility to your fellow members of your community we didn't go Joseph Campbell would call it the call. We go across the, yeah, he is a reluctant hereof, yeah. Of course, yeah. Across the lake, the head of campaton is walking around with a plate full of raw meat for some reason, and then back at camp Sasquatch. Nancy tries a trick flash into skinny dipping, and boy, this is where things get exciting.

Oh, you know what? That's when they're watching the horror movie, is when they do much skinny dipping and boy this is where things get exciting You know what that's when they're watching the horror movie is when they do my skinny dipping. I apologize So the the girls from the girls bond trick Flash into thinking he's going skinny dipping Cheryl thinks she's just gonna go watch look at the stars There's a lot of dipper. Yeah, there's a lot of big different you window She's like where can we go see the big different? He's like oh show you a big dip She's like, where can we go see the big dip? And he's like, oh, show you a big dip. I've never heard of that before. I've never heard of that before.

Who's the first? I mean, do I dip it in? I've never done it. So is it just like a brief dip? All right. This is a nomenclature I'm previously unfamiliar with. But I will assume that it refers to my penis. I will never at any point say, so we're skinny dipping, right?

Or otherwise, assume that we might have to confirm what we're doing. I'll simply take it for granted that the way Nancy reported these events to me and your plans are accurate in your mind, even though the things you're saying seem like they could be taking in a more innocent direction and knowing your character and personality the way you dress so we speak, how you react to me up till now. It almost seems more logical that you're literally talking about stars you're looking at, but again, I just can't... I'm even the very idea of seeing a naked female body has so suffused my brain with the inability to think logically that I'll just again believe Nancy a noted liar who shrits my best friend into streaking in a way that almost got him killed. And again, it wouldn't tough. But from the streets, we've been shot at so many times before that it barely phased him.

But again, I should remember that my friend Eddie might not even be sitting right now because of what Nancy told him. And yet I am so eager to see Cheryl without a close on that I will take it on face value. Do you think Fanny would have lost her job if she'd shot that kick for her? I don't know. It's a good question. I mean, there seems to be a different law Do you think do you think fanning would have lost your job if you she'd shut that

Question I mean there's there seems to be a different law that applies to I mean there's also the 80s so men were allowed to do terrible things so we're We have a scene where there's a little bit of will they won't they and by will they won't they I mean of course Go skinny dipping flash takes off goes mind a rock takes off all those clothes go skinny dipping. Flash takes off, goes mind-of-rock takes off all his clothes, he jumps in the water, and what do you know, of course, a giant bear shows up, and I guess starts taking his clothes. The other girls are up on the tree, ready to watch the monitor. The bear takes his clothes off, the bear unzips and gets in, and then he's like, he gets water in his eyes, and he can't see,, he's feeling the bear's naked and drifts first. He's like, oh, Cheryl, you're built differently than I thought.

And the bear's like, ah, and like, he's like, Cheryl, you're such an animal. Okay, and he has sex with the bear. Yeah, and then he's so, and this Tady Ruck spin was both. That's the plot of the Revenant. I mean, I don't know if you watched all of the Revenant. I'm just a weird child. And by the end of it, he's married to that bear.

Yeah, yeah. On the next soundstage over, Jamie and Fanny are trying to hook up. It's clearly the same soundstage slightly redressed. They move to the bush and the rug. Meanwhile, we see camp Patton's counter-surgency team sneaking into the camp. Oh, I will say about that bear that happened to me once not skinny dipping But I was I was swimming in a creek in Montana and the guy walked up and was like hey You might want to move because there's a black bear coming up this way and we were like yeah Whatever and then the black bear showed up. We were like gotta go

So sometimes when you're swimming in the woods bears show up. I assume shit there. Okay so I guess I guess this movie checks out. Yeah plus no Pinocchio's delete the goose section. That's the new standard whether movie is good or not. Yeah ironically Pinocchio which should be a good movie does not good because it's not even okay. So the camp at guys kidnapped flash they take a naked teenager and with their boat. And Fox love I think they I don't have a scene of Fox love being delighted right. No, no, that's just all in your in your in your brain. So the next morning we see the sign for Camp Sasquatch is hosting the champ of the Lake competition and the sign of course reads sold out. I

Take umbridge with that. Uh-huh. Yeah, because they don't sell tickets to camp events. Everyone just goes There's no All the people we see are campers and less like they have to take money out of there They're canteen You're saying they just ran rados in the neighborhood Money out of your canteen account you punch a card But yeah, exactly. Thank you, but there are randos there because like the native tribe is there Because the chief is there and there's like a bunch of like just weirdos that assume recruit members because they needed to fill out the bleach transfers.

Yeah, so but maybe everyone in town has a canteen account. They just go in and get nice cream sandwich. They're garbage. But everybody's really excited for this match. We before whatever reason flash hasn't shown up and we realize why we cut across the camp pattern where a naked flash wakes up in camp pattern under no guard whatsoever. They've all gone to the big game. He slips into Fox Gloves room where he finds a closet full of dresses that will matter in a moment. And now who we finally find out what

that raw meat is for. The raw meat is for Camp Patton's Champion. That's right. A character named Ogre played by, not Ogre. He's playing, the character is Matt Dog, played by the man who made the role Ogre from Revenge of the Nerds Famous. That's Donald Gibb, my favorite member of the Bee Gees. No. So yeah, that. What a career turn.

Yeah, I mean, I think it shows vocal range, right? Here's the thing that I don't get about the champ of the lake, Matt Shepard. Are we to believe that Matt Dogg is a camper? And I can't bat him. He's clearly not. And so- Maybe he's a counselor. Maybe.

Oh, but at one point, Gidey is like, I guess I'll do it. So it's just whoever you hire will bring in to do it. Because Matt Dogg is presenting to us as literally more in a real life. I mean, originally he was supposed to fight the van guy. So yeah. Yeah, boomer. Boomer.

I assume he's the guy that drives the van. Yeah. Oh yeah, maybe he drives the camp at and van. Boomer talks a big game and then van guy versus van guy. Talk boomer talks a big game and then disappoints everybody much like the generation that bears his name okay I will continue oh we'll say that for another episode where we trash baby boomers so it looks like that would be so great this this year's flop house bonus episode for the max

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So it looks like everything's curtains for Camp Sasquatch and then flash shows up. Wearing an aforementioned dress that we talked about, It looks like everything's curtains for Camp Sasquatch and then flash shows up. Wearing an aforementioned dress that we talked about. He gets in a boxing match with Mad Dog. Things are going very well from Mad Dog. They, and at the end of the first round, it looks like Mad Dog's going to win. There's a round card girl who walks around.

Like a professional like sequins the wrong woman with round cars the joke that I mentioned earlier where the round card girl walks by and the tribal chief whips off his sunglasses to get a better look the joke you liked oh yeah so silly and stupid because he was wearing sunglasses inside and he whipped it like finally, so that was looking at you show up, dude I guess to see who he's gonna give the rights of the lake, okay, so it looks like Flash is gonna lose he gets knocked to the ground and then meet head intervenes using his telekinetic powers and he overrides flashes

Brain and he and gravity and gravity and begins puppeting flashes I was overrides his brain I thought he just lifted him up so that he could Fly some round and nobody's like what is going on? There's just like I don't know flash good fly To the nub of my very just Which is my objection to the nub of my very gist, I'll get which is my objection to the scene Like I know this is silly movie. It's ridiculous to get angry over it

But like in movies like this where someone like someone does something totally like against the laws of physics no one's ever like Running out in horror no one screaming no one's like like Requesting their own concept of recovery. Yeah, exactly, really? They're like, oh, he can fly, that's weird, or like, the guy from the bad campus being like, he's flying, that's against the rules. It's like, what is going on?

And even crazier than that, do the rules of boxing not even matter? They give him a five count, and he's still on the ground, and they get to just pick him up, and he's just gonna box the game. They to just pick him up and he's gonna box it They just counted the match was over He didn't get up. I thought the bell ring before the count was done. I think the yeah

Maybe they contracted for a set number of rounds and so they just needed to get You're right they count to five and then yeah, then the bell goes But it's not, I don't think it does cut off the count. Anyway, we're gonna have to go back to the tape. So it flies and spawned around with clear wires. What you're saying is the flip side of in a horror movie when a monster shows up and everyone assumes

it's their friend in a costume. And they're like, quit it. And it's like, that's, this must be take place in an alternate universe where Halloween costumes are amazing. Yeah. Yeah. Like sitcoms. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

We're the family. I must have shown up too in Roseanne episode. Halloween episode. And we were, they all have costumes that none of them can afford. It's, it might. You're hired Rob botten to do your costumes for the same. In, in modern family, they'll be like, we had to throw the haunted house together

in the last minute. And it's like the most amazing professional hot-lates, they're like the Disney Land or something like that. I like to stop watching that show because the characters were too rich. Couldn't believe it anymore. Yeah, so Flash is flying around on these obvious wires and he starts to kind of win. He's like punching Mad Dog in the head a little bit,

because he's fun. Because the most important thing is to punch him. That's also, you can't punch someone in the top of the head. That is illegal. Yeah, they're. Yeah, yeah. They're very defined rules where you can hit somebody. It's a part where they clinch and people start booing.

And I was like, this happens in boxing all the time. Oh, yeah, you like it. But they're legs around. Oh, was he doing that? Oh, but that's everything. That's not okay. So I mean, that's fine if they're doing it for fun, but as a boxing, it's a boxing match.

So the evil head of Camp Patton notices that there's an alien in the other stands whose eyes are glowing, so he realizes that alien's the reason why this is their winning. He says almost nothing and he runs aside and grabs a hand grenade in a roofful children. I think he's off a kid's belt. So here's again, like you guys are saying, he doesn't see an extraterrestrial telekine powers. My reaction to to be oh my god I'm witnessing the most important moment in scientific history. Maybe my little argument over the ownership of this lake is not important

I know we know we are not alone in the universe We know they have greater power than us and understanding our vulnerability to this I feel like the only way I can counteract is not through violence because I'll never defeat them They have control over all matter, but instead through compassion and showing that they were worth saving and worth protecting. You know what?

I, Bat Jack, Hershey, I'm gonna turn Camp Patton into a place where people learn to love each other because in this universe, all we have is each other against these hostile forces. Well, maybe not hostile forces, but the threat of the universe is too big for us to be divided. Instead, he's like, I'm gonna blow me up an alien. And it's like...

He doesn't even go into the, like, I gotta capture that alien. It's just like, I'm gonna kill it. I'm gonna kill it, and I don't care about the collateral damage. Which is chill-trick. Yeah, he sneaks under the bleachers with a grenade. Of course, he drops the grenade. And then the real miracle happens. What is that meatball making the grenade chase?

Oh no, no. No. Little Earl. Uh-huh. Tommy McVeigh, wheelchair round Tommy McVeigh. Can walk. What? He musters the will to walk just to save the camp. Yeah, I know

Nobody knows. Nobody knows. He doesn't tell anybody. He doesn't get any credit. No, no. While meat heads getting all the problems. He realizes that that man has a grenade and he might blow up his friend Meatlo for whatever his name is. So he wills himself to walk hoping that possibly in the ensuing commotion he might blow up himself and of course that takes away meatballs attention for a second. Are cat meatball? That's also true. I think that's why you chose this movie, Charlie. You're like a movie about my cat. So Meatball makes the grenade with a kind of amazing, amazing special effect. Has this floating glowing grenade chase Hershey out of the room?

I mean, amazing. He has this objective way to describe it. Nobody notices a floating grenade or the head of the opposing camp whose very property is on the line during all this running out after it going, gah! It's one of these very 80s special thanks though whether like the the grenade is like floating around chasing him and it's tracing in the air for the listeners and it's also like

you just telecaster drawn on the screen it's like there's like animation on the cell like they'd like animated like going like red and like normal color and red and like throbbing red and like flash red yeah throbbing is also where you can do it, I guess. That is a never throbbing grenade.

Is it? It's like that. So the grenade, Jason, around a corner and explodes to kill him, I can only assume. But they're only camp grenades, so he's a vibe. It's just going to wound him. It'll blow up the city. He'll be whipped cream or something. Speaking of pinkies, flash wins the match. He's a monster. He's a monster. He's a monster. He's a monster. He's a monster.

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He's a monster. He's a monster. He's a monster. He's a monster. He's a monster. He's a monster. He's a monster. He's a monster. sees his pinky much to the acclaim of the lady hamper. They can't control themselves. And he has the dress pulled off himself. He sees the reaction, takes a couple beats before he's like, I think I'm naked, and then he slowly covers himself. But in the press conference afterwards, he was like, I didn't like that.

I didn't like the way they react. I started talking pretty quick and covering myself up pretty quick. But if you look at the tape, it was at least 12 seconds. Topic all. Sort of. I mean, it won't be topical when this comes out. So it looks like everybody's super happy. It cuts to the next day. Now we see this.

We never find out what happens to Mad Dog. No, we have no idea. But we, I'm assuming he is left to rot in a kennel and Camp hadn't I mean is badly a shape Sasquatch. Oh, that's actually probably where the name comes from. Let him loose. Yeah, but So it's you know, it's end of end of camp meathead is about to go home his His bunk buddies are all sad about it. So the session for this camp is roughly three days And of course he as he as he goes home to meet his Jewish alien father, he tells the other campers, go to buy mullahs, something like that.

Now, Ali, I just... And the alien is. I want to ask, did you feel proud watching this movie saying that like, did you feel like, well, Charlene as well, I'm sorry, Judaism, you're like, oh, Judaism must be the true religion as it is spread through the galaxy. I mean, that's one way to read it. The other would be that Jews can never fully be human.

And instead, alien creatures that were brought here from some other place, no matter how much we try to simulate by wearing raincoats and sleeping in houses. I'm very excited to eat hot, good nook, good nook. Good nook, yeah, yeah, it's like, it might not be the game from the 70s. Quite possibly. I mean, they may have well just used

getitions to have Jewish buzzer. The implication, I think the joke is supposed to be that, like, what would be more crazy than if this alien talked about an old Jewish man. But it really does feel like, no, thanks for reinforcing. That I guess we are deviant subhumans. We're literally a different species and we should go back to our home planet.

Although this does have one of my favorite lines in the movie, which is when he goes, oh, how is the vacation day? And he goes, he's like asteroids, a lot of space junk. It's a real mess up there. And he's like, oh, sorry, I hear about that, dad. And it's like, the way he dismisses space has some place to go. It's a real mess up there and he's like, oh sorry, I hear about that dad. And it's like the way he dismisses space as some place to go, it's a real mess up there. It was genuinely the way that one of my parents would describe the trip that they take the rest front they

eat at or anything that happens. What's tough is that they had to work so hard when they're doing all that ADR work to match the slow moving to not moving it all mouth parts. But I don't understand how this alien flew all this way and then ended up in the only not Jewish camp. Yeah, well that's another thing. That's Kim's has bought you so non-denominational and there are so many Jewish camps. Like most camps are Jewish.

Like send your kid to the Jewish camp. There's an offensive joke in there that I'm not gonna make. I'm just gonna leave it behind and not touch it that I'm not going to make. I'm not touching it. But many summer camps are Jewish. But it's yeah, they should have done the research, I guess, I guess. My guess is that it was just on the way to wherever they were going. Yeah. And of course, at this point, we realize the 87 minute adventure is almost up. The mood. Just like the summer falls the 80s. Just like the summer. Just like the summer. The mood is almost over.

And we, you know, to get our, to get one final thread tied up, Cheryl drags a flash behind a bus and give some a big old kiss. I Guess closing that loop forever and then the bus is Drive off. She deliberately she openly opens up the possibility of more kissing in the future. I don't know I feel like that's a closure of a loop and then it continues on and cycles forever into madness So the buses pull away and speaking of madness and cycles that never end, of course, boomer. Of course, it's a sky revival. So madness is there. Boomer is wandering after those buses with a canoe on his head, much to

Gidey's disappointment. And we the to finally close out the loop, we are gifted with the song, waiting for the summer, summer and a sun and fun and a women. So you're saying, Stewart, that much like with the Star Wars prequels, what seems like a bad movie is in fact a brilliant movie, because even though it is not entertaining, it repeats things. I think you're right, Elliot.

Also, the Star Wars movies have a really strong stance against a sand, which I kind of support. Okay, fair. It's everywhere, including your butt. So now is the point of the podcast where we tied this part of the show up in a little bow by making final judgments. Thank you, Charlie. This is a good thing.

It was in Joker with a laugh. No, I... It was a lie. It was a joke I would have laughed It would have been my stupid mind If I could go first for a minute, yeah, I have to run and do the name really. Yeah, it's a good bad movie bad movie It's a bad bad movie. There's almost no movie in it. Okay good No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, We didn't say we're all actually in the same room because of David Last name with held His birthday It's graduation. Yes.

Is college graduation. Charlene, it's been a while since you've seen meatballs too. It clearly left a mark on you. That's why you picked it. What do you think? Well, I actually was pleasantly surprised that I was a little worried picking a summer camp movie from the 80s and while there definitely were some offensive things, it was not nearly as offensive as I

thought it could have been. There was no raping at all. That's true. And even the homophobic stuff was much lighter, and it almost seemed to like. And it was isolated to the villains. Yeah, and then when Flash came out in the dress, and it was just like whatever, no one even really made fun of him, it was just kind of like fine.

I addressed that once again, can I state, in no way would fit John Lerick. No. I think it was it was really stupid and fun to watch. I think it was a good bad movie. Yeah I think I'm gonna back you up on this. I think it was a fun it was a good bad movie because it is incredibly dumb and it is in that sweet spot of only 87 minutes long. Under 90 minutes. Yeah. And there's some dumb stuff. And like, yeah, there's a couple of jokes that I'm not into.

But, you know, considering the time, it's not as bad as it could have been. Yeah, I'm going to go mild good bad. Like, the thing is for me, for the age I am, like, to watch a really, really dumb 80s comedy that feels like, again, it could have been on USA up all night, even though it wasn't a sex comedy. Like to watch that kind of movie is like, I don't know, like lying in a hammock and having a coconut drink.

Like it's so comfortable, you know, like it's just, it's such a pleasant feeling because of all the waves of nostalgia it brings on me, even though it's such a pleasant feeling because of all the waves of nostalgia brings on me even though it's such a fucking terrible thing Uh-huh that I kind of enjoyed it even though it was not good I don't think you have to defend yourself, Dan. I think uh, I do All this on I mean, I think we all like our dumb guilty pleasures and 80s tn a comedy just happen to be yours and should make you feel a little guilty No, there's terrible stuff in some of them. I recognize that. This stuff is like, cannot be. Good stuff like Aliens and the Predators.

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He's the house cat as well as one of the two hosts of hit podcast till deaf duest party Well, he's got a new album out and it is back-to-back bangers, such as, it's gonna stink. I'm a rock. Illegal. My skin fell off. And howl-daudy featuring Tony Robot trash. Now you can listen to this at Spotify, Bandcamp, or wherever you listen to music. I don't know. Check it out out guys. Okay, so let's move on to ads. Okay, keep the lights on.

Yeah, the good thing about ads is they help pay our bills. Yep, Stuart. Despite us having no skills. Yeah. The first sponsor tonight is Squarespace. The club is sponsored in part by Squarespace. Yeah. It's a service that helps you create a website to turn your cool

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of the fingers. The one that if I had to lose a finger, of course I'm going to choose that little guy cute as he is. But this movie, there's constantly talking about pinkies and I'm like, I'm giving the people what the fingers. The one that if I had to lose a finger, of course I'm going to choose that little guy cute as he is. But this movie there's constantly talking about pinkies and I'm like I'm giving the people what they want. So on pinkylook.com it's your place for looking at pinkies, learning about pinkies, you know just find out what that little guy's doing on the end of your hand. Once again we're not talking about baby mice. No, not baby mice, we're talking about the pinky finger. Okay., let's talk about fingers.

You got your thumb, he's the workhorse of the group. He's doing the most stuff and he gets the least credit or the most sometimes. You got your pointer finger, he's good in the clutch. You wanna identify something, he's a guy go to. Middle finger, a bit of a bad boy. He's a least rude and he's got to. Ring finger, he's got one job, he does it mostly well.

And then the pinky, who's kind of like a little kid. And so, I didn't do the people wanted to see him, again, least of the fingers. ring finger he's got one job he does it mostly well and then the pinky who's kind of like a little kid and so I Didn't do people wanted to see him again least of the pain. He's like what is that Albert Alfred? What's the little kid from the Oliver already Albert Little kid all those kids from the Brady bunch yeah, Oliver Yeah, now those names have been applied to children throughout time You know all of those names have been on a job. It's like so pinky look calm for any meatballs part two fans We're interested in looking at pinkies

Pinkies look calm and now on Squarespace According to Dan yes, and the clubhouse is also sponsored in part by Z-man game. Oh, yeah! The makers of pandemic rapid response. It's not rapid response. Rapid response. That's a different game. Sterling looks like that. I do play that.

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Yes, yes. That was a pretty unique 10 cargo plane, right? It was. Is that it was piloted by a bear? Now, how did he use a little fan to skateboard on the air? How did that happen? Well, it was one of those shows that takes place

in the future and also the 40s. So, and they're all animals who talk. How did that happen? Well, it was one of those shows that takes place in the future and also the forties. So, and they're all animals who talk. So, I don't know, man. A tiger is a rich businessman and a lion is a kind of absent-minded mechanic. So, I think that you're asking one of many questions that I can't answer.

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minute. I feel like Dan did such a good job selling it. I can tell that Charlene is just aching to play board games with me now. What is the general area that the box takes up? Yeah Dan does the copy explain how much shelf space the pandemic rapid response takes on it. It's a pretty small box to be honest. It's got a lean profile. Yeah okay. Except but it packs a big punch. It's fun and excitement. Yeah it's good. It's fun. I've talked about before but it's for a cooperative game I think it adds a couple of new twists

and it's great for kind of players of all different skill levels. It's really cool. It's not a game that drags on. No. It's a nice slim game. Both in size and length of time, and I can buy this in your life.

And time of game. Oh, Stuart, what's that? I think you're a jubber, Tron. Oh yeah, remember that? Let's talk amongst ourselves while Stuart looks up that jumbo. So what did you guys talk about while I was certainly not in the bathroom? I think it was mostly about how we all agreed it was a good bad movie in defiance of your will. You know what, maybe it is a good battle.

I apologize, I was having trouble thinking because I needed to go do something that certainly to start up the cat. That it. That it, it, it, it, it, maybe nostalgic for the days when a movie didn't really have to have any content. You know, I watched the movie and I was like, that was in theaters. It's barely a thing. So let's start out that jumbo tron. Check out the hilarious, you don't know Jackie show wherever podcasts are heard.

That is the call to action. I'll say it again in a moment. First order of business. Shout-outs to the very best bad movie podcast, The Flop House. Wow. Sincerely. That's weird that I'm saying that about my own podcast. Sincerely, not trying to kiss ass.

We really do appreciate the hundreds of entertaining hours you've provided over the years. Second order of business. Shameless promotion of R podcast. You don't know Jackie. We're three friends, all named Jackie. You fight crime, take no prisoners, and always please that booty. We do none of those things, but you can catch us chewing the fat every Wednesday on your podcast app

So once again called action is check out the hilarious you don't know Jackie show Wherever podcasts are heard and based on the description of the show. I don't know Jackie You may never know but I'd like to know I like that attitude and I of course like nice words about our podcast here They know how to butter us up and Dan and Elliot are applying some kind of mobile game right now their phones Yeah, it's called yeah boy I do a great job reading that We do now in this podcast I Well next we go to letters.

Sorry, we were confused about what we were each doing. Well, I just want to double check that I didn't have a jumbo tron to read. Oh, no you didn't. But why would I? Why would I ever get to read a jumbo tron? No, there was only one when I made a call and... No, you made the right call, Stuart's everybody's favorite. He's the party animal.

And Dan knew that I was going to kill it in the summary portion of this spot. Yeah, that's a good one. Let's just keep feeding that beast. Let's keep the two times rolling. Yeah, we should plug our shows, I suppose. That was part of why- That was a nice little rhyme there. Shows, I suppose.

Part of why I was confused was I thought maybe that's where you were on the Flop House website looking up the old shows. Well, I'll tell you about those shows. We got live shows coming up in two different cities. You heard me two different cities. The first one, it's Boston. Well, technically it's not Boston. I think it's technically Brooklyn, but it's close enough to Boston that we are calling it Boston. And so we are going to be at WBUR city space on was it September 28th. September 28th. I am also on the website right Saturday We have two shows the 7 p.m. Show is still sold out the 945 show though still has some tickets so Come see us late night now even if you're seeing the 7 p.m. Show we will be doing two different shows talking about two different movies So if you two different presentations if you think you can stand four hours of this then just buy a ticket or non-binary person

then buy tickets to both those shows again that September 28th in Boston Massachusetts area it's a Saturday 7 p.m. and 9.45 p.m. at WBUR City Space and then in October, Shocktober some might call it. We're gonna be in Los Angeles. That's right, my hometown, October 12th, we're gonna be at the Regent Theater. We're returning, but this time we're bringing

something special, Stewart, because hopefully, I'm surely gonna ask you to really take care of him. Hopefully his back will not keep him from traveling cross country again. He's been doing all of his back exercises. So just remind you, those on the East Coast, or as I call it now, the least coast,

especially you massels out there, go on September 28th to see us in Boston, 7 o'clock show and 9.45 show, again, 7 o'clock show sold out. And then in October 12th, we'll be on the West Coast, or as I now call it, the best coast, at the Regent Theater. That's October 12th in LA, September 28th in Boston. Come see us live when we talk on movies

and do presentations and then maybe, just maybe, making some dreams come true. Probably not that last one. Well, maybe if your dream is to see us watch movies in the time of movies. Yeah, probably. Yeah. So the prospect of us doing a bunch more out of town shows

fill you with stress and dread having to hurt us and corral us and to make our actual showtimes. I've already booked all of the lodging so that's off my plate. And yeah, I'm wondering how late, how late the Boston show is gonna go and how tired we're gonna be at the end of that. Pretty late and pretty tired. And will I fall asleep? We probably are not hang out with people on Boston like we usually do. We will probably go right back to the hotel.

Was it during the Minneapolis show where afterwards Charlene was like, Stuart, I didn't fall asleep at all during the show. Yeah, that was the big. Yes, I was sitting next to somebody at a show not too long ago. That was like, is something wrong with her? Because I kept nodding off. She was wondering if she was supposed to catch me. And you were like, no, no, no, no, no, I'm nervous.

I'm sick of them. Sometimes not all. I'm just tired. Well, she's used to hearing my voice speak. When I read the song by Sophia Novels, novels out loud to her in bed and it puts her to sleep Even though I'm doing cool character voices, which is fucking crazy, man Dude, I want to hear some of those sand or sound like he sounds like this. Hey, man That's me saying her

Clegan No, man, let's hear those three in sound like What about like what about brand what about brand? What about Brian? What about Brian? It's me, the brand, Brian Stark. Okay, what about like Daenerys? Who is making you guys watch out for my dragons? What about like Varys? Who is making Varys watch out for my spiders? What about like uh uh uh uh there's other characters in that What's going on for me? I'm saying no more!

Wow you're saying a lot more than you normally do a whole lot more? Oh yeah, there's so much I haven't got to do you dude! Okay cool. Anyway, that was a delight. That's my new love and the letter. This is the first letter from From listeners this is a thing do we we have some listeners The most explanatory If a new listener came along they'd be like letters from listeners What could that be is it like listeners to something? I don't know what he hasn't explained they send them what giant letters

I don't know why I'm assuming that they send them to him Maybe Dennis is guessing what letters have come out of Lissar's new some kind of a person who has decided for some reason to listen to two hours of About meatballs part two All right Our new listeners do our new listener who has decided that they need a new meatball recipe and it's waiting for us to get to it. Here's what you do. It's Brian Doyle Murray hoping to hear about his brother bill.

You make turkey meatballs and you put spinach in it. All right. Kids love it. Sounds great. Sounds good. No, it tastes delicious. It's a reference to a thing my wife and I talk about. Oh, OK.

I hope the audience at home. It really is. I'm going to get it when she listens. Okay, I hope the audience at home Maybe my father will listen to this episode That's like at at my brother's wedding my sister and I made reference to something that a tour guide in Hawaii Went to this and we were a kid when David tried to do something He was supposed to do and I looked at my wife like isn't that hilarious? I was like wait, I think you've never heard this story So I first forgetting who knows things, isn't that hilarious? I was like, wait, I think you've never heard this story.

So I was forgetting who knows things, and who doesn't. I've been there. This first letter is from Nick, last name withheld. Who writes, we seem to be in a mini-rinosance of monster romance movies. The shape of water, one best picture, and venom has found an audience interpreting

the relationship between Eddie Brock and the titular space monster as a romantic one. This is a very many renaissance. Vampires and where will this have been seen as sexy for decades? And now, Gilman and alien parasites have a seat at the table. But what's your dream monster romance product? Project, sorry, not products. No, no, it's a big it's a blowup Godzilla I can have sex with is that the product?

I have a blowup Godzilla when I try to put it with something and I try to insert into it even better look at the letter before it's a question dream monster romance project oh what monster or monsters would play the leading role? Would it be a straight romance, a gay or lesbian one? And is the world finally ready for your Babadook and Pennywise and Fire Island pitch? Keep up the good work, Nick Lassning with Hell. I mean, I assume that's what he talked to us about.

Yeah, we probably got to slap a couple of fat TM's on this next segment, right? No, the steals are cool ideas. Oh, I thought you meant to be talking about copyright characters. Oh, yeah, that's true. Yeah. I mean, I don't know what kind of character we get. Because we're talking about copyright catered characters,

if we slap TM's on it, that means there are some. No, it's not. It's not how TM's work. We get my attorney in the line. He's a very strict guy. Oh, really? Yeah, we got one of those like stretching stick to ourselves.

Stick a man's, we got a gotcha palm machine that we like, the T.M. on it. Okay, so speaking of gotcha palm machines, I think my fantasy monster romance said in ye old and fantasy times and it is a romance between an animated suit of armor that maybe has, you know, like somebody's spirit stuck to it. It's been animated by an evil wizard who's trying to protect, I don't know, a tower, I don't

know, maybe it's a fortune or something. And that suit of living armor starts a loving relationship with kind of an ooze or a jelly or a gelatinous cube, but normally just devours the bodies of adventures who sneak into this tower and are killed by the living armor. But then like they realize that the two of them, you know, they kind of fill a need in the other like the the suit of armor can't feel anything at all. It's just iron and steel whereas the the trance cube is basically just like nothing but sensation and like maybe the Maybe the the blob like slips through the cracks of the armor and like feel like feels up the armor in a way like At the same time feels protected by the armor and like feel like feels up the armor in a way like at the same time feels protected by the armor. As for your question about is it a straighter gay? I think that's unrelated and unnecessary because it can kind of be almost I don't know why you would limit yourself to

gendering. Your story was so close to Calvinos the Night until that gelatinous cube came in. I was gonna let you do it. Well man, that's what I was gonna say. I mean, one thing I'll say is the Gilman has always been sexy. So let's just put a pin in that, okay. Yeah, yeah. You don't know how to make it sexy. I mean, the Gilman you stand that kind of like, that like constantly frowning my mouth

kind of like the George Gremlin from Gremlins to just like. It just looks like Kelly's evolve. Yeah. Yeah, it looks like John Taffer from Burr Rescue. Yeah, but he lives like very pouty. It was like a pouty, Gilman mouth, you know. Yeah, I'm into it. Yeah, I don't know.

I'm wondering, you know, I've always wondered about the relationship between Gamera and all those little Japanese kids that he has in his life. But when you like one of those kids grows up, becomes a legal agent in this case to romance a monster. So are you talking about? Well, I literally wrote a short story once. I've not found, it wasn't very good. I haven't found the right thing,

but that's a date between basically a woman who just experienced King Kong and They grown up kid from Gamera and just that they're these two characters who They're the only ones who can really relate to each other's experiences because the only people who've had these experiences with monsters that were both Terrifying but also very strangely intimate and I could never really pull it off I mean Gamera is very much a defender of children. King Kong is just out for what King Kong wants. You know, to get as tall as possible.

Yeah, to get as high as possible, which he just needs to take some marijuana, I guess, and make it make him float. He's the alien. Well, why couldn't King Kong be an alien, huh? Hollywood, give me the job for moving King Kong in space. I love you, Alien, huh? Hollywood, give me the job for your movie, King Kong in Space. I'm just gonna pick two monsters I like.

I'm gonna say the spider gremlin and the tarman zombie from return of the living dead. Go out on a date, you know, they find each other on hinge. Sure, yeah. Yeah, they got friends. They got friends to come and they got mutuals. I hear that there's a good place that does like a lobster roll near us. Yeah. We'll check it out.

Charmaine and Robert Piccardo went to college together. Yeah. So they're faced with friends. So they met at the wedding between Robert Piccardo and the Lady Gremlin. Yeah. And they, you know, they eventually they, you know, marry, get together, have really, really, really, really get together. They get really, they have really gooey little spider-grim ones. Yeah, like it kind of a sad like revolutionary road type thing, yeah. Oh, this, really? So which one is, to cap room, which one is Winslet in that scenario?

I'll let you figure that one out. Surely, and I'm sure you have lots of thoughts on this. Well, so Dan sent me a part of this question ahead of time. Dan, so I wouldn't be giving us the context for questions. I say we've be caught off guard. And I'm not that familiar with monsters. So I thought you just wanted us to ship to monsters. Yeah, that's basically what we're doing.

OK. So I thought you just wanted us to ship two monsters. Yeah, that's basically what we're doing. Okay. So I don't know that many, and I had already picked the Lady Gremlin, and you just mentioned her, so that's okay. But I was going to ship her with, you know, the guy from the Muppet movies that like, they always leave without, they always leave, is that sweet-hums? The one who's like, oh yeah, I'll go get my bag.

And he comes out and he's like guys yeah him and the lady. So the mouth is leave and sweet is standing there and as the mumpets bus pulls away like what like doing you forget about the bus at that point and they why they're there is because they're getting a car that's where they buy

the no a hot pink angeline style convertible drives up. And the Lady Gremlin looks out at Sweetam's and lowers her shades and goes, Mmm! Mmm! And, you know, romance begins. Pretty good.

Just beautiful. Oh, and Lady Kasey. Lady Gremlin and brighter Frankenstein are also fell in the wheezing at that moment. Oh, cool. So that's... Sweetam's that makes Sweetam's the bread pit? Sweetam's is very much the weezing at that moment. Oh cool. So that makes the bread pit. Sweetoms is very much the bread pit.

Oh no. He's a bad guy. That all works out for him, right? You know, he's a road. It works out for everyone. It works out for everybody. Happy ending is all around. That's like a sort of like pit type ending, right?

I mean, if someone falls into something? Yeah, but then they get, they blast their way out in the, uh, the extended universe stuff, right? Oh, yeah, sure. They blast their way out of the rig, and yeah. Yeah, that's like, that's like, like a Hollywood phrase that people say. And then, you know, it's gonna start like, they hit pit in it. It's like, jump the shark, it's Sarlai ending.

Yeah. So we get a character somewhere aware that go Sarlai pit Sarlai pit Sarlai pit end of the day everybody's happy. Okay, so now we end TM. Okay, so just ending that ellipses I just I had one more I actually had one more thing and we can reopen the TM The alien and the predator both have weird mouths, but they seem like they'd be able to kiss each other So why are you always versicing? Why are those pitting aliens and predators against each other when they're true match? I mentioned this before in the podcast I'm sure but there's the moment where in the first Alien vs Predator movie where it seems

Like destined like our female lead and the The predator are going to kiss and they don't and if they had I would have let that movie forever But they didn't and I hate that movie forever. And maybe, you know what, the lady Santa bite from Hellraiser? Which is that's her technical name, according to the internet. It's the female Santa bite. I just match up with Bill Pullman from Mr. Wrong,

starring Ellen DeGeneres. See, I'm monster. I guess he is the stalker. He is a monster. He's a crazy person. It's not a funny movie, because it's genuinely kind of frightening, yeah. And also the jokes are not good,

but you know, we're not matching up. So NTM, TNTN. Mary Tyler Moore production. So this next letter is from Ryan Lassney with Held, who writes, I was in a gift shop in Park City during a strip of some friends when I spotted a gift mug that was inscribed with a quote Each drink and be merry for tomorrow. You may be in Utah

I turned to my friend and said hey look at this cool reference to that awesome Dave Matthews band song My friend and for me the original quote was from the Bible I mean DMB is kind of the Bible for a lot of pros of there. Similar vein. Across community. I recently watched the 1942 film to be or not to be and realized it was a clear source of inspiration for some of Tarantino's and glorious bastards. Can you recall any moments when you discovered that an idea or piece of culture from a movie that you thought was entirely original actually had its roots in an earlier movie or work of art. Keep on flopping in the free world, Ryan, the last name withheld. You know, this doesn't exactly answer the question, but the thing that I've seen

a lot is when I have either, either either me or friend has really loved a cover song thinking it was the original and then being Sad when they found like my favorite Judas Preson for the longest time was Diamonds and Rust diamonds and Rust which is not a Judas Pres original, but it's great. It totally fits that man and also like I had a friend who was talking nonstop about his favorite song off of the Crow soundtrack. The Nine Inch Nails cover the song Dead Souls and when

I told him it was originally a joy division song, he was like visibly depressed. I don't know what you mean next because I'm still thinking. Even though I had this letter longer than any of the rest of you. I didn't have a wedding to best man at. No, no. I have no experience. Are you, and it's the weekend, yes? I think. So it's not like work was getting in the way. I was pretty busy yesterday, but yes.

Pretty busy. Glad you threw the qualifier on there. Well, that leads me to my movie, Pretty Woman. Because when I first saw it, I had no idea that it was based off of Pigmalion. I think you're right. And my fair lady, which we just recently saw, although the ending was different.

Do you see the Broadway version of it? We did. Yeah, with that Laura Bonanti. Oh, man. It was really good. People were bananas for Bonanti. The Lincoln Center production. Yeah, it was great.

Oh, it's so, so good. So good. And the staging, and the original Aunt May from the same Ramy movie. She's so great. Well, I didn't see it. Oh, there was a point where you can't brag about seeing a theater performance for once. Once you came out, I was like, sure, look at that. And I was like, what?

You see Henry Higgins with great power. It goes through responsibility, linguistic power, linguistic responsibility. I'm sure there's none there to mind, but there are many times, it's similarly, when you see, for a long this time, I didn't, things that I thought were just jokes. Like, we don't need no stinkin' badges,

I would see things. And it was two years later, I saw a charger this year in my dream, I'm like, oh, this is a reference to a movie that, yeah. I don't know anyone talks about, you know, as a kid, you know, but I didn't expect me to know that joke, you know. That happens all the time, and that's like,

bugs bunny. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I saw a space balls long before I ever saw the chess purse you're seeing from Ailey. Oh, yeah, yeah. But, oh, sorry. They, but I was sorry. No, I was going to, I think that that's honestly kind of the best I can come up with too, is that

I can't think of a specific, but growing up, I think is a long process in some ways of realizing, like, oh, that joke was a reference. It wasn't just funny itself. It was like, like, there's a thread on the Flophouse Facebook group right now that's all about like Stuff in the Simpsons that you realize meant something different once you were an adult and like there's like I think a large part of Of watching the Simpsons was that for me like I watched the The Bobo episode of the Simpsons for instance when I was a kid I knew like oh, okay rose buds It says in cane reference because that's a famous reference But then you like watch this and can,

you go back to, you're like, oh, like a ton of this is, it's something. Is that the answer to the whole song and dance? There is a man, that's the right man. Exactly, that's directly. And then also, I think we all have that moment in the lives that it's just universal when we're shocked to find out that Brewster Million.

Brewster's Million is a story that goes back like a hundred years. It made multiple films of it, and not just the one that's on the ice. Do you remember the old show? I've never seen Brewster's Millions. Is it the same as, that's with Richard Prior, right? Yeah, I mean, one of them. Is it the same as the toy? No, no, no, no.

No, not the same as the toy. Oh boy, toy is it. I mean, not in private fucking tickets, dude, I was a little kid. The toy that my parents hired about the tickets. Last letter. And even in the toy, there's a part where there's like a painting that is, there's a nude version of it. They press a button and the clothes come off of it.

And that, I think, is a take off of what artist is it. I forget who did, who did a twins portraits of this one woman, one where she has clothes on, one where she has clothes off. And as a kid, I was just like, that's crazy. And now I'm like, they're trying to put like a fine art joke in the toy, because that was wasted on the audience. Or maybe the people that I babysat for had one of those pens. And when you click it, the clothes, they come off. Yeah. There's a. Wait, I thought you would

turn the pen upside down the clothes would come off. Not like it. There's a couple of different versions out there. It is. There was a. There was like an athletic center that they used to have in my. I'm sorry, but it was like a sports club. It was like an athletic club that they would have this community event. Still possible to build is it? center. Sorry, but it was like a sports club. It was like an athletic club that they would have this Community event that is possible to bulldoze it. Okay. Yeah, I mean no, it's oh is that definition? It's bulldoze. Bulldoze is a rec center Also Because you can't say that was a stadium right?

There was a There every once a year there's like this community event that my family would force the whole family would go to my parents would force us to go to and in the men's room the light switch the light switch plate was had a drawing of a tennis player with his pants down and look on his face like oh no and the light switch was his I guess in the place of his penis so it's like in order to turn the light on or off you had to flick his penis and I remember being like this is weird you would think you would be much happier about this situation. And I assume it's in the men's room because women upon seeing this light switch would be

unable to control themselves. You know? It's still strange. It has to be both to you, too. Last letter, this is from Aaron and Emily. I hope I am pronouncing their names correctly, but I probably not. Aaron and Emily writes, hello my fiance and I are big fans of the flop house.

We're getting married in October and we'd love to be able to play the flop house theme song at our wedding immediately after our ceremony. The flop house theme song has been the prelude to so many hours of entertainment and happiness and it seems fitting that we use it at the opening to our new life together. I think the normal flop house IP fee of $700,000 may be somewhat outside of our budget, but if you give us permission to use this song, I promise to bake you an award-winning pie. Thanks, Aaron and Emily. Now, I choose the Liberty to already give the permission for this... What are we here for? It's a democracy, yeah.

No, it's cheer-occurably. But I will... I'm here to tell you that the pie in question is in my phrase at this moment. Is this the part of the portion of the show where we eat pie? Yep, this as every, this charlaine is a constant fly-bell who does every episode ends where we we open gifts on my weekend. Oh wow, I'm slowly unraveling this thing. You're like, why are you still angry about this theory?

I mean, it's a little the most popular type of video anyone watches. Yeah, that was our podcast. We would be three times as opening presents. Yeah, if we could put like you could quit your bars I could quit doing what I love which is being a dad If the thing we were opening was like a true crime murder We would be the most popular podcast Yeah, we're opening boxes and there's unsolved mysteries inside

I guess this is a nice thing Yeah, number one, so I'm out there is Let's say, um... What? No, I don't want to insult them. What? A delightful person who wants to put our song in their wedding. Yeah, I think that's really sweet. It seems like a hairbrane scheme to me, but I love it.

I love it. I love it. It's that important to them. I think it's fantastic. It's wonderful. I don't like the way I'm finding out about this after Everything's been said and done And so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on the telephone if you will. Oh, like in the Blondie song, which is actually not a Blondie song, it's a nerve song, but a lot of people know it's a Blondie cover when I found that out of surprise. Yeah. Now, if this, what flavor of pie is it, Dan?

Is it bourbon pecan pie? Okay, at least it doesn't have fruit, so Ellie, it's allowed to eat it. Yeah, I actually just say, like, do not send a fruit pie out of here. And you should have just told them to make it a meat pie. Perhaps you need that to be. Freshly shaved Londoner. Santa for the just told them to make it a meat pie perhaps made out of it actually shaved London uh...

but yeah yeah that was that was the right call you could email us and said hey is this cool but you know i don't think that we're gonna get really that worried about our our theme song i.p. i don't think i don't think pocket bell gets called up when his cannon is using people's weddings there's shooting off cannons and people's weddings.

Is the old man from Mary Poppins getting married? No, it's good. You're right. Taco Bell is not getting called. When his, when they can't, it's like, when you ordered Taco Bell's cannon from the DJ and they're like, I got Taco Bell's cannon. And it's just that it's just the bell sound

and maybe like that Spanish version of the We are young songs play that commercial at what time But if they're walked down the aisle goes viral and they do some kind of a flash mob and then you don't get any of that flash mob Internet money Speaking as someone who was seeing his creative work go viral and receive zero pennies for it Whatever. Yeah, no I I He wrote panties for it. Whatever. Yeah, no. I am delighted that we have been able to contribute in any small way to this room. I mean, if it's going to be so important

that they want to make a part of their wedding, then I'm really touched and I'm really happy that we were. And I think Dan's taken his lumps, and it's time to move on to the next part of the podcast. Wow. Okay, and the next thing I know is Dan lumps. A real task, but he's like, we gotta get to that pie.

Alright, I see this with Dan just saw the word pie and just wrote yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. Last segment is of course recommendations of movies that we have seen and enjoyed that, you know, even if we were pretty pleasant on this silly movie, maybe you're watching instead of Meatball's part two. And my, my recommendation is inspired by Meatball's part two. I said earlier that one of the larger roles for one of the head counselors in this movie is a guy who's been a lot of Joe Dante movies. I have not seen a lot of movies recently that I was like this is great I got a record in the podcast so I'm gonna go back to a Joe Dante movie that is little seen compared to some of

his other ones that's Matt and A where John Goodman stars is basically a William Castle type. I would say John Goodman is not the star of the movie. Well, the teens are the stars. There's a bunch of teens. John Goodman is the big name in the movie. There's a bunch of teens. It's in a small town with a, with a, there's,

they're having a movie premiere there. John Goodman, as I said before, is a William Castle type who like, is an exploitation filmmaker with a gimmick for every movie. And his newest movie is Mant. It's taking place during the Cuban Missile Crisis. They threw several shenanigans.

They think that the nukes are flying. You know, laughs in nostalgia and so if you like old movies. I was just looking at Twitter, is Dan regimending Matt and I? You know it. You see Matt and do you write the minute on the show? No, I didn't regimend it,

but I remember seeing it in the theater when I was a little shabber. I really like Matt and I, like look, I really like Joe Dante movies in general. Like Matt and I, I feel like the, it starts out a little slowly, but it snowballs really nicely. I feel like by the end of the movie Everything is firing really well, and it's just very funny and enjoyable and just like

Is that the one where they like either put the tingler in the In the theater seats or they're like trying to one up the tinglers. Yeah, it's basically that yeah Firing on all cylinders, you know if you've got any affection for like the idea of like Exploitation film making making at all now. I think my explanation filmmaking we should make sure what you mean is be movies You don't mean this is not grind house movies. No, I'm not like Vincent Price I'm not like blood sucking freaks or whatever No, this is like this is like a movie where they're like in Spooka vision and it means a skeleton How small the tail would have whatever 13 ghosts all that stuff

Well, why not just make it 12 ghosts. What's that 13th ghost doing for you? Now you have a odd number of seats in the table a baker's dozen a ghost what baker's Send out ghosts a devil's dozen of ghosts So you get to eat the one ghost on the way home And you still get to go home with it doesn't go well the lucky one is the one who has the ghost with the little toy in it They win they're the king of Christmas Okay, anyone else have movies anyone Well in I'm gonna have to say I was inspired by meatballs part two of course

I'm gonna recommend another summer movie. That's right. I'm going to have to say I was inspired by Meatballs Part 2, of course. I'm going to recommend another summer movie. That's right, I'm recommending Mid-Summer, and Summer in the Title. And boy, what a blast we have. It's the second feature directed by Ariaster. It's about a couple of young college kids just trying to have a little bit of fun in the sun and sun and enough on it. And so they traveled a suite into examining some of the cultural anthropology of some of the summer festivals there. And let's just say things go a little bit off the rails.

The movie's fun. It does exactly what you think it's going to do all the time in a great way. It's super fun. Watch it mid-summer by Ariaster recommended by me Stewart. And I'm going to recommend another movie of the summer. I guess in that it's summer right now. So if you watch it, it becomes a movie the summer. I recently watched the Sisters Brothers starring Joaquin Phoenix and John C. Riley and Jake Gyllenhaal and Riz Ahmed and it is a Western,

but it is a Western that vacillates wildly between comedy and not comedy. And I really liked that it was a movie where I thought I knew where it was going and I thought I knew what was happening and I did not know where it was going to go. And what was happening, not in the sense of there's like, there's no twist that makes you rethink things, but just that the movie's tone is kind of free with where it goes and it was one of Waking Phoenix's funnier performances that I've seen recently and he's someone who can be very funny when he wants to be.

Yeah, like you were never really here. Yeah, exactly. And one of John C. Riley's more like, I feel like he's fallen. Most things I see with him in nowadays are like homes and Watson type things because he likes being a clown. He's got like, such a small town.

Yeah, we need to talk about Kevin. Yeah, he's exactly. We'll give him a move. Yeah, some like, well, not all of his movies, but lately. Anyway, but I really liked a lot and I couldn't tell where it was going for a moment to moment and surprised me. And there was a little bit like and I couldn't tell where it was going for a moment to moment and surprised me. And there was a little bit like, I don't know, if someone gave an art filmmaker enough

money to get some big stars to make a western. And I liked it. It was the closest I've come to seeing a movie that reminded me of the book, The Hawkelyne Monster. So if you like the book, The Hawkelyne Monster, you'll see the sisters brothers. Okay, this is completely unrelated to all the movies that you guys recommended. And it has nothing to do with the summer. But I did see it recently on a plane.

I recently rewatched the Devil wears Prada. And I would like to recommend two thirds of it. OK. Which two thirds? The first two thirds of it. Okay Mainly for the scene where Emily Blunt sees Sees your your friend your friend Anne Hathaway Sees are after she gets a makeover and she does that slow motion like jaw drop like

It stars... You're pregnant. The two thirds that don't have Adrian Grieger in them. Yes exactly. It stars Merrill Streep. Mm-hmm. And... As the titular devil. As the titular devil. And she does an amazing performance.

And I feel like the movie that I watched seemed to say, you know, work really hard. And you can be as awesome as, you know, this Merrill Street character. And it seemed like the movie, like, took a turn at the end and was trying to say the opposite. So don't watch the end, that's stupid. Just watch it up until, um, after she gets the makeover and, um, you know, yeah, and starts and she's on the top of her game. Yeah. Friends are like, you changed.

And it's like, you knew me in college. I hope I changed because I was eating fucking ramen and like, you sit and like sleeping on a mattress surrounded by reptiles, magazines and porn omags. That's what it is. There are different. And her boyfriend is a chef and he doesn't understand that she works long hours. That drives me crazy. That's a fucking part.

I kind of feel like a lot of these movies are, like, then I have this same, like, Archimem, these Hollywood movies are written by people who are in Hollywood and like, okay, I'm in a high pressure job, where there's a lot of competition. I need to discourage people from trying to excel.

Maybe that's it. It's like if you work really hard, you're never going to get a boyfriend. It's like, yeah, no one wants that boyfriend. Just work. Yeah, it's like, do you think that the person who's writing all those sitcoms where women get jobs at magazines is like, them which one's you have a job at the just shoot me magazine there's no way if all these young women keep taking my job I won't be able to take it so I need them I need to discourage them from getting that job I mean I

think what really comes down to is people who don't know what they're writing about and then basically them on old old story forms that we have I think what really comes down to is people who don't know what they're writing about. Right? And then basically, them on old story forms that we have in many ways, sloughed off so much reptile skin, sorry to keep you on the other side. Yeah, I like to watch the old story. I mean, that was the old story. The Devil Wars Prada, that was like a Romano Clif. The woman who wrote that worked for What's Her Face, the Devil Wars Tour.

So, like, she... Oh, from the previous for What's Her Face? And the winter? And the winter. So like, like she. Oh, from the end of the year, we were like, what's her face? So I was like, she would theoretically actually know what it is to have that job. Hey, Dan, I'm gonna let you in a little secret. What? Movies.

Okay. Are often different. Okay. Then the real things, they're based on, and I'm willing to bet that the personal wrote the movie did not write the book. Okay. And I'm also willing to bet that the personal road the movie did not write the book. And I'm also willing to bet that the personal road the book made up some stuff.

And so Dan, when I think when it was not released as the Devil Wars Prada, an investigative report with a Pulitzer Prize on it. This isn't actually Prada with a letter from the Times on Butsman saying, yes, we've checked all this. This is script written by Mike Daisy. Yeah.

Yeah. It wasn't, it was. Wow. The dick and wrist are insane. Great jokes. Yeah. Specific audience. Yeah.

When it wasn't the Devil wears Prada part for means of ascent by Robert Carroll. That's when you should know that maybe they took some liberties in the Anna-Win tour story I'm fair enough. Hey guys, it's been a delight and I Thank you, Charlie. Thanks for having me. Yeah, thank you for being here. Thank you for picking this movie I like I grew that way and I feel like you should all of the meatballs movies Riders right in should we do the other Bring back Charlie into the whole whole meatball is quadrology. But until next time, you know, well, quick, we'll say do all the regular stuff. Write us a good review on iTunes if you

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Everyone is advising me. It's like everyone. I'm sure you want to send me a production look. I'm on this at the beginning and end of all shows and movies that rear view productions between me and my name. Plastoral. Including Jeffrey Wright's lawyers who are like my client has copyright in the way he wears glasses But anyway

Just can't stay up on top of the nose. Thank you all for listening It's been I'll blast all be in the same room together and have Charlene here, but for the floppy-sip and damn a coy Hey, I'm Stuart Wellington. Ellie Killing over here. Charlene Wellington. In the words of our pal meatball, that's right. Gute by Moulas. All right.

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