The Flop House - Episode #172 - Dorothy's Return

Episode Date: February 21, 2015

There's just something about a terrible kids' movie that brings out the best (?) in us, so we dive headfirst into the CGI flop Legends of OZ: Dorothy's Return. Meanwhile, Stuart gives important advice... to our kidnapped listeners, Dan inadvertently pitches the new hit movie "Uncatchable," and Bizzarro Elliott makes an appearance. Movies and TV recommended in this episode: SorcererWildLogan's Run

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Starting point is 00:00:00 On this episode we discuss Legends of Oz, Colin Dorothy's house, I'm Dan McCoy. Hey there, I'm Stuart Wellington. We start over. No, hi, I'm Billy Kellen. I'm Stuart Wellington. Stuart, were you coming onto the listener and then you thought better of it? You're like, no, I'm just kidding.
Starting point is 00:00:49 Unless you're into it. In which case, I'm totally not kidding. It's like I got close and she turned around and she's a zombie. I want no thanks, ma'am. Not in New York. You're still going to introduce yourself. Yeah, I'm still going to call her ma'am.
Starting point is 00:01:01 You're polite. You're not rude, yeah. Yeah, exactly. You're just not interested in that. Like, you know, why are you saying it like that's weird? I don't know. I mean, like, part of me is like, that's prejudiced.
Starting point is 00:01:12 Part of me is like, yeah, you don't wanna like ask a zombie out for a date. I mean, unless they're into it. Like, it's a joke, but unless they're into it. We should totally go out with those zombies. I'm a bit of a house a joke. Yeah, I think it's time for a little bit of housekeeping up front guys.
Starting point is 00:01:25 So if you send a letter in responding to radio, Zork, we haven't gotten to him yet. Maybe by the end of the hour. We'll figure that out. We're not not know whether you want to open the door or you don't want to open the door. We're just at, if you're using the key on the lock. That's true.
Starting point is 00:01:41 Or do you choose to wait for another visitor to arrive? Or you might choose to lick the lot. I may not know. Maybe you should try to rust it. Maybe you just want to stare at that door for a while. Maybe you just really like doors. Yeah, maybe you're into doors. Like doors. I was fishing. Maybe this is like a bridge of Madison County situation and you're just going around photographing scenic old doors. People do that. Yeah. People do that. We don't know. What if you're a door mouse? A mouse who loves doors for sex.
Starting point is 00:02:09 Wait, is that what they are? You read Alson Wonderland, right? Yes. So we watched the sequel to Alson Wonderland and I. We did not at all do that. First off. First off, first off, Waltz. This is a podcast.
Starting point is 00:02:25 I know that you know this already. If you've downloaded it. Not if someone has tied you up and blindfolded you and you're just hearing this, you might think we're in the room with you, but we're not. It depends on how they sound systems. Don't panic. There's only one person in the room with you, your kid never. Which they should panic.
Starting point is 00:02:41 They might have turned the podcast on to entertain you while they went to the store To give to use you to get more lotion to put in the basket. No now pop your thumb out of it's out of its socket I'm starting wiggling your hand out of your restraints. Yeah. Okay. Now grab that box cutter You have jammed into your ankle We'll continue with more tips on how to escape your kidnapper as the podcast goes on. Yeah. But for now, we just want to explain this is a podcast where we watch. Are there any clearly marked exits because those are the doors you're going to want to take? This is not a bit.
Starting point is 00:03:15 I know you're asking yourself that because you've heard this podcast before. But then they know it was a podcast. They thought that earlier episodes were podcasts and this might be a live taping that they think arrived at somehow Point is like something where you're kidnapped and they put you in front of a live audience because the kidnapper gets off on the thrill of having their kidnap E in front of like a bunch of people's like possibly save them. I see I'm Dario Argento's opera. Oh, I thought you were talking about that Diane Lane movie that we watched Catchable or whatever. It was catchable.
Starting point is 00:03:47 Uncatchable. That's a good name for a parody movie Uncatchable. That's the villain of catch that kid. It's fears.com's. It was untraceable, I think. Yeah. Alright. So.
Starting point is 00:04:00 Uncatchable. The bad, there's a bad guy. The baddest guy in all the world. And the bad news about him is he's uncatchable. He's been categorized as uncatchable. Interpol has called him uncatchable. Dun we caught that kid? Yes, we have. Dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, your mission, if you choose to catch it, the common cold.
Starting point is 00:04:30 I mean, that's not that hard. No, it's really easy to catch. Starting out easy. That's like a training thing. Yeah, exactly. Starting out easy, boosted confidence in catching things. And then later on, you catch the uncatchable. Yeah, you got to start with it's like a starter parkour.
Starting point is 00:04:46 You start with small jumps. Just little jumps. What like just hopping? Yeah, you like hop onto a rock. Hop on one foot. Yeah, you don't want to do big jumps right away. Starry punks will be ripped off. Have you jumping into a shark's mouth?
Starting point is 00:04:59 Starter parkour. It's classic porn movies. Starry punks. I like Starry punks. Is when the James Bond movies are really running out of names for carriages. I think, yeah. He is your partner. Starter parkour.
Starting point is 00:05:10 There's a YouTube series out there about introducing people to parkour. And it's like the first couple steps are, you know, like little jumps. See, I thought that you were like, I was just imagining that there was like a Starter parkour set and you buy a box of it. Like a box of, and it's just like a was like a starter parkour set and you buy a man and it's just like a like just like a fire hydrant. It's just a step. Yeah, it's a nerf fire hydrant. You're not going to get a lot of give on that fire hydrant.
Starting point is 00:05:34 It's a map of I don't know like Paris or something. It's what it is. It's a collection of family circus costumes for little billies running around town. Because he invented. Of course. It was Jeffy who did that. I don't give a shit. for little Billy is running around town. Because he invented Jeff. Of course. It was Jeffy who did that. I don't give a shit.
Starting point is 00:05:46 Got it. Cam it out of it. All our credibility is at the end of it now. They're all the same kid. Oh no, it was not me. They're all the same kid. And I'm not so sure it was Jeffy. It was Jeffy.
Starting point is 00:05:56 I think both of them took around the bout so kid-to-it-is-roots. Billy? It was the oldest one. I know he takes over the comic strip sometimes. Jeffy's the one who runs around. Who's the, who's the, who's the girl? And the girl is, um, girl.
Starting point is 00:06:12 So yes. Together there, the catchables. Dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, in order to catch the script, we're going to need an uncatchable kid. Mm-hmm. Get us little Jeffy or Billy or whoever the shit it is. Anyway, so that's very catchable. I mean, you start very catchable because you just follow that little dialed liar around. Catchable kid get us little Jeffy or Billy or whoever the shit it is Anyway, so that's very catchable because you just follow that little down the line around but he invented parkour He's jumping over branches. He's underneath dog houses. It's called slilock fox out of retirement
Starting point is 00:06:35 But he said he's max mouse. No, he said he's tired. Yeah, because he couldn't solve the murder of max mouse What he found a tormenting him ever since. We'd found Max Mouse's empty skin hanging on a coat hook at his house. Untold stories of the comic book, comic's page. Oh, Slilock Fox. Oh, Wiley Weasel or whatever your fucking name is. Will you ever win? Yeah, I mean, Slilock Fox was at the height too,
Starting point is 00:07:04 because he had just solved the case of Mr. Lockhorn murdering Mrs. Lockhorn. Sure. Well, what is pretty easy? Well, it was a rose. He solved the mystery of what makes Fred Basset funny. Turns out it's nothing. And when he caught Marm Duke running at prostitute rank. Sure. So point is, we've watched a bad movie and then we talk about it. That's why would you guys? Marm-a-do-c.
Starting point is 00:07:29 That's Marm-a-do-c pleading for his life. Yeah. It's Lilac Fox just shooting. You're gonna talk? All this time, you could talk and you understood that we didn't want you on that chair. This is Howard Hughes all over again. Howard Hughes famous, famous rec loose dog. Yeah, he's a dog with tissue boxes on his feet collecting his urine and jars. He would urinate on things to show his dominance over that area, but he was saved the urine.
Starting point is 00:07:59 Yeah, he saved the carpet samples of the top floor penthouse of his Las Vegas hotel. Anyway. So we're a podcast that watches a bad movie and then we talk about it, right? And tonight we watched what was it called? Legends of Oz, Dorothy's Return. Dirty's. Roveng of Dorothy. Oz, it's a legend. I think it was called Dorothy to Two Shades of Blue. I think it was called Dirty's Back.
Starting point is 00:08:22 Watch out, suck ass. Legends of Oz. It was called Legends of Oz colon dorthy's return. Okay now the implication is like dorthy is like the villain Well, maybe dorthy came back and wanted to build a bunch of condos and places and the tin man had to break dance or something Turn on all the bikini car washes and us Keeney car washes and us. Oh, the car room down. I mean, I'm pop bikini car wash. I gotta say, most of the time, most of the time, the bikinis get torn off pretty easily. It's not hard to tear down one of those car washes.
Starting point is 00:08:54 Yeah. So, so now this is, now we had a big debate over whether we should watch this because I had trouble believing it was released in movie theaters, but apparently it was and it's got a lot of big name stars. Tool wall paying like $3 million opening weekend, right? I just bought total box office for an Wikipedia. It was $18 million. I just wanted to run this. I just wanted to run this down for you guys. Now imagine there was a movie. Imagine there's a movie that starred Liam Michelle. Should we close our eyes? Who now who's Liam Michelle?
Starting point is 00:09:21 She's not going to leave, but she also was a big star from spring awakening on Broadway. Oh, then I must have seen her in that because I saw that. Oh, so he once again, I have an actor in the film that I saw on the stage. Damn it. Now, spring awakening. Turning the board. So, tripping the lights dramatic in a musical adaptation of a German drama. Now, but imagine.
Starting point is 00:09:41 Strong of awkening. No. I imagine there was a movie with her. It had also as Dan Acroid, uh, oh, a huge star like Danny Acroid. That was a Dan. He stars like Jim Belushi. Let me just let me let me let me run it in. Yeah, Dan Acroid, you get Kelsey Grammer, Martin Short, Hugh Dansey, all of her plat, Brian Stewart, Brian, Brian Blesed, Bernie Peters, Bernie Peters, Tom Kenny, you would think. Martin Short, did you mention Martin Short?
Starting point is 00:10:10 I did, because he's in it too. You think this was a wonderful magical movie. No, you would think it was a movie that had a lot of money to spend and you'd be right apparently, but you'd say, you'd say, okay, these are impressive. It is an impressive cast. It's at food fight levels of impressiveness. No, it's, there are no stars in heaven
Starting point is 00:10:28 for the early legends of us. It's got, this is Brian Blessed and Patrick Stewart in it. This has noted Shakespearean actors. Yeah, because if there's anything we know about British Shakespearean actors, it's the only make good movies. Never do they take a paycheck to do some crap. I will say this though, the actors in this movie,
Starting point is 00:10:45 for the most part, except for Bernie Peters, really do their- I don't know why you got a car to that. And then like, okay, Daddy Pete's. Okay. Bernie Peters is the one person who is clearly not trying. Everybody else puts a surprising amount of effort into their roles.
Starting point is 00:11:01 They are really selling it. They're really selling it. He's selling it. He's selling it. He's selling it. He's selling it. He's selling it. are really selling it. Our short has like three songs. Yeah. And he's built in it. Oliver Platte has Owl over Fat. He's a fat owl.
Starting point is 00:11:12 He was a fat owl. But at one point he says a song in like a weird Jamaican accent. Ryan Blessed is a job breaker headed judge. And he is easily the high point of this movie. He is selling the shit. You're saying it's not Patrick Stewart as they talking to you. He's been turned into a boat telling a bird say a song for me. That is an amazing moment that I hope that we can come back to.
Starting point is 00:11:35 Yeah, so let's talk about what this movie is. Okay, so we all are familiar with the movie, The Wizard of Oz. It is in my opinion, about a wizard in us, about as perfect as a family movie can be like that. That's just my opinion. Let me go out on a limb here and say the Wizard of Oz is an additional treasure. Let me go out on a limb here and say citizen cane is a pretty good movie. Like he said family movie. Would you say citizen canes a family? I'm not arguing. If it's my family, then yes, Sammy loved it. He loves that monologue about the girl with a white dress. Oh, he found it heartbreaking.
Starting point is 00:12:09 He thought Joseph Cotton was not too hammy as the older version of Lidlin's. No, Wizard of Oz, let's just, let's just stay out right. You guys, I'm sure love it. I personally have a great deal of love for it. It's a beautiful move. It's a gorgeous movie. It leaves me in tears every time. It's not even like that.
Starting point is 00:12:26 It's sad or even because of the movie. Just how kind of like flawless to me that movie is for the most part. And you're saying this movie surpassed it every way. I'm saying there's a new champion of us. Well, you're not left unmoved because you know deep down that it required a sequel. Yeah, well, that's the thing is I'm like,
Starting point is 00:12:44 you're like, what about the return? I'm like the one flaw of this movie is it leaves the story to open it into what if like what's with all these movies and their trilogies? Am I right? Am I right folks? Is this thing on this guy knows that I'm talking about straight and necktie. Yeah, but so anyway, white down your hair. I will say that I don't your hair part.
Starting point is 00:13:04 Yeah, yeah, yeah. So my hair parts to greasy. I got a wipe. but so anyway white down your hair i will say that i don't have your air part and i have a part to greeky i got a lot of that so going into this movie with the fucking towel that's going into this movie which is an animated sequel to the wizard of us based on a book written by the great grandson of the author of the original wonderful wizard of us the uh... i don't really assume that he unearthed like a vault that had the like specs of this story
Starting point is 00:13:27 and he turned them into into a novel. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. It was all based on the original. Or like he summoned up the spirit of his dad using dread and necromancy and then he had his dad's dad summoned as well. So he had multiple ghosts summon each other. Multiple generations of Oz writing bombs.
Starting point is 00:13:42 Like a Russian doll of necromancy. Yeah, rigorous. Ghost summoning. But it's kind of like, I have to send the bound a Russian doll of Necromanter. Yeah, regress. Go some an egg. But it's kind of like, I have to send the Bound family is kind of like the Herbert family. And then it was like Frank Herbert wrote Dune and then a bunch of Dune books. And then the family was like, uh, just because he died, doesn't mean we got a job off
Starting point is 00:13:56 the Dune money train. This place is life, bro. Come on, let's pump out some more Dune books. Or like, he still seems to be going to pay for themselves. Or like Christopher Tolkien, or it's like, I don't know what law it is that says if you're dead
Starting point is 00:14:07 or ancestor wrote fantasy or science fiction books, you got to keep going. Like it gives you license. The way that like, I have to assume that like, Ernest having ways kids were never like, Hey, what if the sun also rose again? Yeah. What if they said, good hello again to arms?
Starting point is 00:14:23 What about two old men in the sea? There's a lot of fish metsy Something got to be bigger a lot old men out there like I did something about fantasy series that Or the or it's like how uh and that the idea that this continues in the bloodline I guess like made a chlorine or something this fan at the same way that the movie version of War the World of the Time-Trap, that Time Machine, that movie version of the Time Machine that Guy Pierce was in, was directed by the grandson of HG Wells as if he had, because he has Wells blood in him. He knows the story better than anyone else.
Starting point is 00:14:57 Anyway. He was going back to that Wells, guys. He would, he went back to that possible to fire you down and still have you run all the equipment and put the show up online. It's possible. Anything's possible in us. So speaking of us, so this is a, it's based on a book, which is true, but it's the sequel story.
Starting point is 00:15:21 So in the land. It's a sweet. So after 20 minutes of credits. There's a lot of opening credits because kids love opening credits. And then you said that each of the songs will have like an individual credit. Each song in the movie and they're like five of them
Starting point is 00:15:35 gets an individual on-screen credit with the person who wrote that song. One of them's written by Brian Adams. The rest, I didn't recognize the name as the songwriters, but it's the long credit sequence. There's two directors credited. They each get their own title. That it doesn't say directed by so and so and so and so.
Starting point is 00:15:49 I want to direct it by this guy. That flies off screen directed by this guy. I wonder whether like the two or three scenes that I really actually enjoyed a lot. We're directed by one guy. And then they're like, oh, this guy's too good. We got to fire him off this project. That's probably what happened.
Starting point is 00:16:04 Yeah. That's probably exactly what's bringing the shitty guy. So it's too good. We got to fire him up this project. It's probably what happened. Yeah. That's probably exactly what's bringing the shitty guy. So it's a sequel. So you know, the Emerald City, we left it last time with Scarecrow's run in the place as he is in some of the later Oz books. The Ten Woodsman's there, the lion is there. You got Dan Ackroyd as the Scarecrow.
Starting point is 00:16:20 You got Kelsey Grammer as the Ten Woodsman. You got Jim Belushi as the lion. And like, She's handling a great John Goodman. None of them do the voices of the characters in the movie, which is the original which is fine, but they're still doing silly voices. It's every Kelsey grammar who just kind of sounds like himself. Yeah, exactly. He sounds like Frazier Crane. Yeah, or Sajobab. Or Sajobab. It's the same voice every time. He sounds like his most famous role, the captain of Paris in down Paris go,
Starting point is 00:16:46 that up Paris go, I got the direction wrong. He's something the Kelsey grammar notoriously never does. Yes, he's, he's, he's, he knows which way of Paris go. The whole time I'm lost in this, I'm like, why is boss running around talking about how he has a heart now?
Starting point is 00:17:01 You know, from the hit show boss, starting Kelsey grammar. Because he watched it blindfolded. Why is, you're like, who's kidnapped me? Why is he kidnapped you to watch this shitty movie? Why is one half of that Kelsey Grammar Martin Lawrence project doing the voice for this? What was that?
Starting point is 00:17:17 I don't know. It was one of those, are they like TV lawyers or? I feel like it was one of those shows that like was on that Tyler Perry's head of those shows that was on that. Tyler Perry's head of the family or whatever the fuck. Wait a minute. One second.
Starting point is 00:17:31 Wait a minute. Medias head of the family reunion. It was on that same idea though, they were gonna just do 100 episodes if it really fast. Like, endermanic, endermanic, endermanic. Cause, well, Kelsey Grammer might have been the producer on that. He's produced a couple of Black actors like shows that are for an African American audience. Yeah
Starting point is 00:17:51 Like there's that that one that's called like girlfriend or something like that the Kelsey grammar is the executive producer on you Think though that like after like cheers and Frazier like you wouldn't run through all that money already that he has to do like a I know that what runs through the money? Well now, but like to do like it one of those like hundred episode cash in I mean Proud Just one he was probably the producer in which case he'd make a lot of money and two This is a man with some serious chemical addiction problems And he has lost a lot of money over the years
Starting point is 00:18:16 But anyway, it's Kelsey grammar is barely in the movie so I don't know why we're talking about it so much I don't know apparently we're just like it so. I don't know. Apparently we're just like, come at us Kelsey Graham. Come at us. Come on. Kelsey, yeah, we're real scared of a guy with a name that is Kelsey. Immediately recognizable. I'm kind of scared of that.
Starting point is 00:18:34 What is he a villain? That's fair. We've got a lot of money. Anyway, we're literally two seconds into the movie. Sure. Our favorite characters from the old movie are in trouble because an evil character called the gesture who looks just like the Marvel villain the Jester. Mac tonight.
Starting point is 00:18:50 He looks a little bit like Mac tonight at one point when he turns into a crescent moon and later he has exaggerated lipstick smile on him like the jokester. Yes, the story calls him. Now he's like Keith Ledger. He's a real... Yeah, he's a real... In the dark knot. Jokester. He's a real jokester. How I hardly quench my mouth. I'm not the villain you need wait a minute that's why would you Can we trust him? I've had a little drink tonight.
Starting point is 00:19:26 I'm sorry. The dark nods, somebody make that poster. And you know it's gonna be Don nods. We have a little band man. I was his mouth in a perfect circle. Like, oh. The incredible Mr. Dark Knight. What does it say about that movie that I liked it a lot?
Starting point is 00:19:44 And I can remember almost no dialogue that Batman has in the whole Mr. Dark Knight. What does it say about that movie that I remember, I liked it a lot and I can remember almost no dialogue that Batman has in the whole movie. Except for Harvey Denton, can we trust him? Which I think I'm just remembering from that Pete Holmes video. Anyway, the Jester has stolen the broomstick of the Wicked Witch of the West, which I guess has some sort of
Starting point is 00:19:59 eldritch non-uclidean power in it. And he has the Flying flying monkeys, his command, and he has some kind of glowing globe of powerful energy magic. So what's his deal? What's his jam? It turns out later that he is the Wicked Witch of the West's brother.
Starting point is 00:20:13 And she put a curse on him that made him a gesture. And he wants power now. So are they kind of like... And he turns people into Marianettes. Are they kind of like, are the witches and warlocks of Oz or they kind of like the drought society in forgotten realms where the males are not allowed to are there forbidden to practice magi cali. Well, you asked me a question that I have no idea how to answer.
Starting point is 00:20:38 I have neither the grounding in the Osboks nor the grounding in forgotten realms. So I'm going to say yes, I guess. Okay, that's interesting. It does seem that El Felba Belba, or whatever, or El Felba, or what's your name in Wicked? El Felba, El Felba. El Felba. Some 14 year old girl, right, and tell me what the character's name is in Wicked.
Starting point is 00:20:57 Yeah, Wicked, the Ewok musical. That she, she, the Wicked story. Yeah, but it's a hip You know, but it's no it's a it's a hit broader musical called called YUB exclamation point. It's the Yub Yub So two thumbs up by the way says the dead Syskilinevert we've reached we've reached a point in the podcast to give another tip to anyone who's been kidnapped so open up the point in the podcast to give another tip to anyone who's been kidnapped.
Starting point is 00:21:26 So open up the window in the bathroom of the place where you've been kidnapped. So your kidnapper thinks that you've gone out there. Well, a good deed on them. But instead go out through the other exit or hide in a closet. Here's another thing to remember, exit to the gift shop. That's how you can escape a museum or a captor's layer. Yeah. That's how it gives you access to overpriced I don't know shirts. I mean, that's the one. You're going to do very well. You're going to want to souvenir of the time you were kidnapped. Maybe like a like a zoo book. Yeah, subscription
Starting point is 00:22:00 only magazine. Zubox. Like a zoo bully. You. No, you can get those zoo books and give shops of zoos. Make, can you? Yeah. I only got it through the mail, because I was a big zoo book subscriber as a kid. And I gotta tell you, there's a problem when you subscribe for two of it for years as a kid,
Starting point is 00:22:13 because there's only so many issues. So I must have gotten like old world vultures. Old world number of times. We're like, you know, alligators. I got a thing. I do remember there, you know, alligators. They got a thing. I do remember there was one called New World Monkeys. I think there's Old World Monkeys and New World Monkeys. And I was too young to really know what that meant.
Starting point is 00:22:34 So I thought it was just Old Monkeys. Which, which, which do you prefer? I really can't tell. Old world or new world. I can't tell them. I'm just trying to say, let me write this down under. But in my file. Anyway, so they need help because despite being a courageous lion, a robo man, and some kind
Starting point is 00:22:52 of pumpkin head character type figure, they can't defeat this gesture. Some sort of, yeah, some sort of Alex Max type. A super genius. dissolve and then come back together. And he's a super genius They can't defeat the gesture they need Dorothy the witch killer and so we go to Kansas where a tornado the tornado from the Previous movie and previous story and they say years have passed for us here in Oz but it'll seem to Dorothy like it's just the next day Yeah, so Dorothy has had a little time to deal with her
Starting point is 00:23:23 Adventure in Oz. Yeah, she wakes up in a stressful situation. Yes, to say the least she's a PTSD. She killed somebody. She killed two people. Yeah, she dropped a house on one and then saw their feet curl up in like that weird thing. I mean, to this day that creeps me out. And she melted, I bet you she can't take a shower. Maybe ever again.
Starting point is 00:23:41 Yeah, even if it was just a viable homicide, it's a hell of a thing to kill a woman. paraphrase after giving. Yeah, yeah. Anyway, let's keep moving. Yep, to steal it's soul. Yeah, with a whole right camera. Sorry for referring to a witch as a it, but I didn't want to check it. So I think that's fair enough. Didn't want to gender fight. Yeah, gender fight. You don't want to gender fight, but moving into the the which is neighborhood. Yeah. Gender, a gender vacation is when they take a neighborhood that's totally dudes and they send me a
Starting point is 00:24:10 menstruate coming in and turning all the shooting galleries into like what pony stories? Boaties or whatever. Boaties? Boaties. Boaties. Boaties where you buy kind of stingerboat staffs. Wait a minute.
Starting point is 00:24:22 Boaties. So it isn't like that. We're a minute, Boatheak. So, it is the name. We're a lady Donna Telle. Would you like that gift wrapped with a bow? I see what you did there, yes. Dan, edit all of this. So, it's the next day, Dorothy's Fair House has been destroyed by a tornado.
Starting point is 00:24:41 Now, this is taking place in modern day. So, her aunt Anne looks like Anna Gasdair as that public radio character that she does. And her uncle, what's uncle's name? I don't know. Uncle Owen, let's say. It's uncle Owen. He just looks like some guy.
Starting point is 00:24:53 He's a moisture farmer. Now, the house is wrecked, but it's not so bad. They can fix it. Dorothy's like, we can fix it. We can fix it. I square. And they give it up. They're like, fuck this.
Starting point is 00:25:03 They're like, no, and an evil appraiser comes by, voiced by Martin Short, who has a classic devil beard. It's even pointed at the tip, and he's got a little henchman who's measuring stuff. He says, this house is unsafe. You could be like a familiar, we have no idea. If we don't know, he's like that little monkey man that the bad guy in the goon has.
Starting point is 00:25:22 That little cat guy who's always depressed all the time. Yeah, but it's a tiny homonculus. So the appraiser says this place is not safe. This property is condemned. You have to go to the emergency shelter. And I guess I'll buy the house from you at a bargain basement price when you go to the condemned building sales fair that I'm hosting a town. It's a little like, you a little like Star Wars having so much to do about trade agreements or whatever.
Starting point is 00:25:49 Like in this fantasy world, you don't necessarily want to have to get into the idea of understanding what these deeds mean. Well, I would say that having the deed to a farm be taken by the bank, for instance, is a longstanding plot. That would be a much simpler thing than what is shown here, which is like-
Starting point is 00:26:08 This is still not that difficult. The guy's clearly evil, he's trying to steal their house. And all the adults being grownups are like, well, I guess we gotta go along with it. Nothing we can do, we're homeless now. But Dorothy is like, no, no, we can't listen to this. That's when a rainbow, totally a taxer.
Starting point is 00:26:24 She's chased by a rainbow. She tastes it. She tastes the rainbow. She is tripping hard. Tripping the light fantastic. When she wakes up, she can't even see anymore. But the rainbow picks her up and takes her to Oz, where she is going to save the day, but she's left. She needs to get to the Emerald City. For some reason, the machine in the Emerald City that brings her there doesn't take her to the Emerald City. I think that they get interrupted in the middle of it somehow. I think that the, I think that the,
Starting point is 00:26:51 what is the gesture pop in? Yeah, I was paying a lot of attention. I think the monkeys like show up. Dan's eyes were glued to his phone. That's true. But I think the, I don't know what kind of naked pictures Dan was looking at on his phone. I think that his eyes were literally glued. I certainly wasn't the Legends of Oz Deviant art page, which we just looked at.
Starting point is 00:27:09 If you want to see a lot of drawings of like a sexy cowgirl, yeah, Dorothy envisioned as a sexy cowgirl, sometimes with a buffalo friend, but rarely wearing pants. Oh, never. No, I, yeah, I, I wasn't meant I was not paying attention. Some of it was I was examining the Wikipedia page to see the storied history of this production, but, but at that point, I think that the villains came in and like, they interrupted it. So the rainbow, like, deposited Dorothy where she should not have.
Starting point is 00:27:41 She landed in a forest where she met her first new character, aside from the gesture, Wiser, who is an owl whose character trait is that he is extremely fat. He is super fat. He is a gargantuanously fat. Imagine the fatdest owl you've ever seen and then quadruple-less. And then add a hundred more owls to each of whom,
Starting point is 00:27:59 each of which is fatter than the last. Like I have to respect this movie by showing me a much fatter album. I never thought that was singing. Well that's, if you, that's the, the M2 movie they say, they say you've never seen an owl this fat. What are the top 10 fat owl films?
Starting point is 00:28:15 I'm fantasizing about taking the egg that that owl hatch from and turning it into a delicious omelet. An owl omelet? It's like, you would have to be a wimpy style Character to eat that omelet. Sure a dang with style omelet. I'm not sure that Stewart isn't a wimpy style So so why is her is incredibly fat? Owl has kind of did somebody spray paint a
Starting point is 00:28:40 Like an archile Sweater pattern on the top half of his chest. It's just feathers. Is that part of his plume? I think it's to get across the idea that he's something of an intellectual. He's a fat nerd. He also has little pintsnaz glasses.
Starting point is 00:28:53 Which stay on, I mean, I guess that's, he wanna go over a waterfall, but that's just good pintsnaz fitting. Yeah, exactly. His nez is really pintsnaz. His nose. You can't pints that nes anymore than it already is they the now why is it can't fly for obvious reasons he is hideously fat for
Starting point is 00:29:12 fat is Leo b's fatness he tries to flap his wings he's gonna die of a heart attack he can't even very well he can't even fly it's like a gummy bear but he's here and there and everywhere even on like an airplane he can't Like they're like, you're gonna have to buy three seats. You're gonna have to buy a cargo plane. Oh wow. Yeah. Yeah. You are one and a half kevin Smith, sir.
Starting point is 00:29:32 Yeah. We need to organize our own Operation Dumb O Drop, just for you. So they passed through first candy country, which is a place is all candy. Crazy acid free candy. The gesture says, I'm gonna trick them. All the signs in candy countries say, don't eat the candy.
Starting point is 00:29:49 The gesture casts the most magic of spells to change the signs to say, eat the candy. They go crazy. In the kind of acid freak out, I have the instructions. I think Roger Cormin's the trip. Yes, subtle instructions. Yeah. And they're like kids in a candy store in the town made of candy.
Starting point is 00:30:07 They eat a lot of candy to a song about candy. This is the second song in the movie, right? Yeah. The first one was the heart-stopping rendition of... This song, yeah. This movie is version of Over the Rainbow, and it's not very good and not very memorable. It's about building. To the candy.
Starting point is 00:30:23 As I said, as I said, we're watching it. This is their answer. It's a tough rotoho because somewhere over the rainbow is probably, I would say, the best song ever written for a movie. Like, what else is better? Like, what's at that level even? Like, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:30:38 Oh, does this guy have a... It goes by, maybe. I know that. The dream warriors theme from... I'm right up to part three. I mean, that's what yeah, maybe and I assume Between the moon and the moon and the shine I mean, that's the only real real on the real competitor, but they have like a very bland
Starting point is 00:30:57 Kind of not as good song first critique How about a take control from ghostmasters. Oh, wait a minute. Whatever it's called saving the date. No, no, no, no. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no not surprise Ghostbusters 3 they want to get off the ground because the Ghostbusters movies were a cottage industry of originally written songs. Each one had like three new songs in it. Oh man. About Ghostbusters. I got to say I kind of like take control more than I like Ray Parker Jr.
Starting point is 00:31:36 You are an idiot. You are a mad man. Hey man. Maybe the catch that is such a catchy song. It captures despite knowing only. It's a rip off of I want a new drug But he we lose it's a huge improvement on I wanted a drug I would say this you've been told you're gonna write a song for a movie called Ghostbusters What's it about it's about Ghostbusters?
Starting point is 00:31:56 What does that mean the title of the movie's Ghostbusters write a song for it? And you write a song that perfectly captures the feel of that movie You're a genius that is a movie where old people will unironically shout out, Bustin makes me feel like. But what about... That's right up there. If I want a song about... That's right up there with the poster for the thing,
Starting point is 00:32:14 where they said, we're gonna make a remake of the thing. What happens in it? It's called the thing, pain is supposed to... What if I want a song that's all about Vigo, the master of evil, try to battle my boys, it's not legal. Well, wait, well, wait. I'm, wait, what if you want a song that's all about Vigo the master evil try to battle my boys. It's not legal Well, I will wait. I'm wait. What if you want to I love you're not gonna get that when the ghostbusters theme either I mean, that's that's not a that's not a correct criticism Dan
Starting point is 00:32:35 I Went to see this movie Guardians the Galaxy, but what if I wanted a movie about the effects of Alzheimer's on a family Well, then this is not the movie to go to. What if I wanted a duploss, brother style, low key comedy? Nobody goes to a movie that is an argues. I went to go see Phantom of the Paradise, but I wanted to see an animated film
Starting point is 00:32:56 about a young deer that grows up. Well, that's not a fair criticism. You knew perfectly well going in that that was not the movie you were seeing to request other why to request a song about Vigo of Carpathia from a movie that does not feature that character is ridiculous on its face. He's been so sir I will give you no refund and you are banned from this theater. I'm free popcorn then. I know you have no negotiating platform right now. A small coke. We'll let you take this. Give him the small go. Will you take will you take this promotional lobby card for the film Pure Luck starring Martin Shorten Danny
Starting point is 00:33:37 Lover if you will get you to leave. I will. No, I apologize. Where Martin Short is puffed up from a bee stink. I will. No, I apologize. The first layer of Martin Short is puffed up from a bee sting. Don't show it to children. It will frighten them. Stan, now assistant manager Stewart, you had something you wanted to say. I was going to say the postcard is from me.
Starting point is 00:33:56 It's missing the U because the U, I guess, fell out of the title of your look and landed on somebody's head. I guess I don't know. So it says P, and then I got lucky. And then I landed on Martin Short's head. But and landed on somebody's head. I guess I don't know. So it says P. And then I look at it and landed on Martin Short said, but somehow that helped them solve them. I don't know. I didn't see the proof. And as someone just saw the movie, I don't can't answer any questions either. I know that it ends with Martin Showman. So my joke was a comedy. I don't know. I think they're
Starting point is 00:34:18 like, okay, I was he playing the same character in this and captioning around. Not at all. Not at all. They're brothers. What? And they're the sons of the Marjor characters. They're twin sisters. And they're the sons of the Marjor characters. I'm the Migos. I'm the Migos.
Starting point is 00:34:38 Oh man, fuck the fucking Pixar theory. I want this unified theory of Marjor. All of Marjor's. so how do we fit Jack Frost? Santa Claus Re into this I Don't know and I do know that this movie they watch tonight is part of the Martin short of earth It is somebody at home needs to make the family tree about all of Martin short's characters are connected house Clifford related to Ed Greenley Jr
Starting point is 00:35:03 How is his character from an inherent vice related to what's another Martin Short character? He's a character from a rest of development. Yeah. Where is the like, the weird bodybuilder guy, the old bodybuilder. Forget about that character. Not one of their stronger moments. Ironic because he's a very strong character.
Starting point is 00:35:24 Okay, so they eat the candy. They're rested by, let's get back to the movie. Seems like a very sweet man. So after this trippy dreamscape. There are rested free in the candy by Marshall. Loading gesture heads. Our next big character, Marshall Mallow, who is a...
Starting point is 00:35:39 Marshall Mallow. Is some kind of a rap star? Yeah, he's Marshall. Marshall, he grew up at eight, eight, eight, eight, the bad part of candy Detroit. And he wins a lot of rap battles. To treat, dude. To treat.
Starting point is 00:35:54 Now, Marshall Mallow is the by the book, Hugh Dancy voiced Marshmallow, yeah. Military policeman who arrests them with his chocolate scops that we couldn't tell if they were dogs they had mustaches He takes time out from his relentless pursuit of Hannibal compressed these miscreants. Yep. It's like yeah, this is my design a world of candy people eating the candy Especially to eat things
Starting point is 00:36:20 eating the candy. Especially as catching clothes who eat things. I imagine he doesn't want them to eat it because that candy land is the elaborate serial killer like plot. Like because every serial killer goes after puts on these elaborate pageants productions. This guy has made it turn all his victims into candy and that's the scene of the crime. Nothing, I mean, I love that show, but nothing beats ridiculousness. Like, the idea of Lance Henrickson as an old I mean, I love that show, but nothing beats ridiculousness like the idea of Lance Hendrix and his old man just climbing a ladder to build a totem pole of bodies that's like
Starting point is 00:36:51 25 feet high. No, you can't believe that this exists in a real world. No, no. It exists in the crazy high opera, opera world of a Hannibal. Yeah, the Thomas Harris universe. The Harris verse. In which Hannibal and Black Sunday both exist in the same universe. Okay, I think I read part of it. Now, they're brought before Judge drawbreaker played by Ryan Blessed, a judge
Starting point is 00:37:16 with a job breaker ahead. And dare I say, I mean, he's competing with Patterson, but he might be the finest work on this movie. Yeah, sure, he really puts his all into the job breaker character from the one scene he's in. Yeah. Now, here's the thing I'll give this movie credit for. They had references to real-life pop culture things here in the jury of their of their peeps, which is a jury box full of peeps. There's the peanut galleries made of circus peanuts.
Starting point is 00:37:40 And yet, it kind of worked. Yeah. They didn't go too far with the references. No, this scene, I would say is the best scene in the movie. I was, I was half expecting it to be like all like knock off Shrek jokes. Yeah. And it surprisingly was. Yeah, I thought if this scene was about them in candy country of this movie about them
Starting point is 00:37:59 in candy country, might not have been a terrible movie. Unfortunately, they leave candy country pretty quick. Jawbreaker sentenced those them to death. Uh, they leave Candy Country pretty quick. Jawbreaker sentenced those to death. They, and that's when they ask their names, Dorothy says, and then children's movie. They're gonna get killed. That's three.
Starting point is 00:38:15 Eating candy. And it feels like the filipretts. The fat owl characters like, I guess it makes sense at this point. I've eaten so much candy. I mean, it's so much. I deserve it. I've escaped. It's the same way I feel the day. Finally, I can find sweet release from this this point. I've eaten so much candy. I eat it like so much. I deserve it. I've escaped. It's the same way I feel the day.
Starting point is 00:38:26 Finally, I can find sweet release from this fat prison. I lay there. Yeah. Someday, I'm going to give you a ticket for J. Walking in New York. And I'm going to be like, you know what? You got me. I've been doing this for 15 years. I was bound.
Starting point is 00:38:37 It was bound to catch up with me eventually. Yeah. I can't fight this. Sense me to death. So, so, so, how's Lee is like, hey, you know what? I did the crime. I'm gonna do the time. And the time is eternity.
Starting point is 00:38:47 It's not gonna be dead. But, uh, throw me on the ground. Don't even kill me first. But then they ask their names for the death certificates. Dorothy says, Dorothy gale and they go, Oh, Dorothy, the hero,
Starting point is 00:38:56 the witch killer, send them on their way. This is not the only time this happens in the movie which makes you think, why does Dorothy not just brandish her name and everybody? She doesn't want to be like, that kind of like, it it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's
Starting point is 00:39:11 like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like wearing on their sleeve the fact that they're playing on the strength of the original
Starting point is 00:39:26 story by having Dorothy literally being like, remember that thing I did in that story? You remember? That's why you should let me do whatever the fuck I want, basically. Yeah, but also there's a lot of the, there's the moment in Wizard of Oz where they're at the gates the Emerald City and he's like, oh, you got the Ruby slippers? Well, that's a horse of a different color. Come on in. And then it's like, okay, let's do that four times in this movie.
Starting point is 00:39:53 Where people hear that she's Dorothy and they go, oh, well, that's a different. Or they say something and the guardsman who's trying to keep the matter of place goes, oh, well, that's different. Come on in. It's like, yeah, she does seem a little reluctant to play that shit.
Starting point is 00:40:04 Like, where's just like, I mean, is it because she, and they don't address the fact that she clearly is upset about the fact that she murders from murder. I think it's because she's from Humblecans' stock and she doesn't want to be a tall daffodil, you know. Yeah. Every time people bring that up, she imagines
Starting point is 00:40:21 a poor witch melting to death. You're a darling, the witch killer. And she just says, I didn't know what happened. I blood on my hands, green blood on my hands. Come on, come on. Clean. I can never be clean. Green jelly on my hands. Little pig, little pig, let me in. Oh, thank you. What a terrible song that was. I remember buying the casingle when it was Green Jello. Why? I wanted to change their name, huh?
Starting point is 00:40:53 Because I was a fucking kid and I had no taste. That was like, there were a few videos when I was young on MTV where I was just like, I need to change the channel because this video was on because this is so terrible. And one of them was a green jelly. I assume you're thinking, let me turn to VH1
Starting point is 00:41:12 because maybe there's something I can masturbate to here. There. MTV, this would be three minutes before. Like the vinyl, as I touched myself. Yeah, there you go. I'm gonna have to be three minutes before I can masturbate to anything on MTV unless that at pig is kinda hot.
Starting point is 00:41:24 The wolf's doing a lot of blowing, anyway. I just know the grind's gonna be on later, that's all I know. Wow. If I'm lucky at spring break or the summer and they're doing all those swimsuit grinds. You know it. So Marshmallow joins them on their quest the Emerald City so that Marshmallow,
Starting point is 00:41:41 he can find the missing gem. Yeah, as you said, he has them dead to rights. Yeah, he caught them. They are guilty. And yet they get to go free because they're white. And Marshall Mallow is white. And it's a white law structure, you know. But anyway, he says, well, I have to go find General Candy Apple,
Starting point is 00:41:58 my commanding officer, turns out Candy Apple has been kidnapped by the gesture. I'll go with the animal state. A little bit of dramatic irony for us, because we know that he is currently turned into a weird puppet. Yeah, let's keep, okay, we'll just continue. Let's zoom through this, because we take a thought.
Starting point is 00:42:10 Yeah, we are, they then, they go through the dainty china country where they pick up the china princess who's rejecting potential suitors for her hands, one of whom is played by the guy who did the voice for invader zim. So that was fun for me, because I'm a fan of the suitors.
Starting point is 00:42:23 Tom Kenny's mother's suitor, they took the great cartoon voice actors and just kind of shoved him in one scene for a moment. There's a weird great moment of shattered porcelain people like faces still moving around around. Yeah, it's like a weird like yelling film like again another pretty good scene in the middle of the movie like the middle of the movie has a few good scenes. I'll tell you why.
Starting point is 00:42:44 Because they're going through these like crazy worlds that each have an interesting hook about them. And then they're out of there. They go fast. After the dainty China country scene, they don't do that again. They're like, they build a boat out of a tree. Well, they build a boat out of a pack.
Starting point is 00:43:00 Like that's not, lots of them. They build a boat out of Patrick Stewart. They go to the talk in the tree area where Dorothy took the apples. And the first was your vase. And she wants wood to build a boat so they can go down a river to get the Emerald City. And the one tree volunteers.
Starting point is 00:43:15 And it's an old tree. It is on a hill, I guess. An old tree played by Patrick Stewart who's tired of sticking to one place and wants to see the world before he dies. They give it to you, if you will. They build a boat out of him, which is kind of frightening because it place and wants to see the world before he dies. They give a tree if you will. They build a boat out of him,
Starting point is 00:43:26 which is kind of frightening because it's just got that big, shock and tree head on the front. And later soldiers are walking out of his mouth, like it's, but he's charming because it's Patrick Stewart. But he's like, I mean, apparently he's still alive once they come down. I don't know what the other trees are worried about,
Starting point is 00:43:40 but he's like, I'm old. I'll tell you what they're worried about. I've, I've, you know, make a boat out of me. I want to see the world. They're all agoraphobic. Okay. And they want to stay in that little patch of grounds. Yeah, all right.
Starting point is 00:43:52 Now what? Yeah, they want to have a little fucking ant mood, hangin' out. His name is Tug, and the tree is named Tug before he became a boat. That's a boat's name is Tug. He should've been called like Branche, or Treebeard.
Starting point is 00:44:03 Doesn't he have a name to tank or taunquer? Later on. But now they go, they get to the emerald city after falling over a waterfall in the process. China girl gets broken. China girl gets shattered into pieces. But Marshmallow Man takes some fire and melts little bits of his Marshmallow body.
Starting point is 00:44:21 And he's like, the most green, the most green, the most green moment of the movie. Blues her back together. I mean, that's number one. That's not very good. Well, the thing's a song about being a little bit. Wait, have you ever tried it, dude? Marshmallows are sticky, dude.
Starting point is 00:44:33 Deal with it. I mean, for a deal with it. Deal with it. Deal with it. They're looking to call it the marshmallows. The marshmallows are sticky. They're not desert mallows. All right, fair enough.
Starting point is 00:44:42 It's very sticky. Maybe it's just a temporary measure to let they combine some Oz Crazy Glue. But all we know is, glue and her pieces back together brings her back to life. They're in love despite the obvious differences. She serves the army of size differences. We had a lot of discussion while we're watching it.
Starting point is 00:44:57 It's not a lot. We had a little bit of discussion. Yeah, we drew a bunch of fucking diagrams. About how these characters might indulge in the physical act of love. The physical act of love. I was just saying, I was just saying, their main problem is that he's the soldier of a different nation.
Starting point is 00:45:10 But- I was saying that the main problem is he is literally six times larger than her. So even with his like squishy marshmallow penis, I'm not really sure how this is this union is It's gonna, I don't, I mean, I got there's a bone in there. I mean, maybe, I thought that's why they called a boner. But maybe they're not, maybe it's not that kind of relationship. There's not a physical dimension, like Carol Channing and her husband.
Starting point is 00:45:36 It's a companion at marriage. Yeah, exactly. Maybe, maybe Bozelay. I don't know. Maybe Bozet, I mean, that is across her tummy and she fucking reaches climax, dude. I don't know. What did that happen in? that's the crosser. Tommy and she fucking reached his climax, dude. I don't know. What did that happen in 40 days of for tonight? The worst movie ever made. No, not the crosser.
Starting point is 00:45:51 Tommy, nothing but trouble is the worst. No, no, featuring this movie is Dan Acroix. Anyway, they, uh, don't you think Dan Acroix was in that movie? Uh, he wrote it and played multiple parts. But I remember a character with a penis for a noir. No, it looked kinda like Dana's or a noir. Was you doing void?
Starting point is 00:46:10 Avoid the penis, noir. He fucks pizzas. That's how it happens. That's what he does. Like Tony Millionaire. That's how you get more pizzas. Wait, I'm like, that's the only way. Tony Millionaire was in big sausage pizza.
Starting point is 00:46:23 No, you... The same thing though. Like, if you want more pizzas, the only one. Tony Millionaire was in big sausage pizza. No, you. The same thing though. Like, if you want more pizzas, the only way is to fuck more fuck pizzas and then have a little pizza babies. Yeah, they call pizza bagels. That's how you make pizza bagels. That's the future too. Yeah, they put, they take that dehydrated pizza and they put it in the sex machine.
Starting point is 00:46:41 It's your gas matron from sleeper. It comes out as a full pizza. Anyway, Dorothy goes to the Emerald City. She confronts the gesture who like captures her whatever I remember. Wiser the owl overcomes his fear of flying, to go helper, everybody else goes to helper. And there's that great scene that we talked about
Starting point is 00:46:59 where all of a sudden there's like a, just a cut-backed Patrick Stewart, where there's a bird on his nose and he goes, sing me a song. It is. It is. It sounds like Patrick Stewart was just going to speak into himself and they decided to put it in the movie.
Starting point is 00:47:14 Like he still miked. There's a scene. Now, the animation in this movie is not as bad as food fight, but there is a scene where now when Wowser, whatever Wowser learns to fly. When Wowser learns to fly. There's a scene where it looks like... It's pretty funny. It's a pretty funny scene. It's so poor looking, it looks like he's in front
Starting point is 00:47:34 of a bad green screen. And this is CGI movie. There's no real element here. There's a thing every time they shoot Dorothy with the little China woman in her knapsack or fucking satchel, it just looks like bad force perspective. It looks like Elijah Wood, me and McCallan are like 10 feet apart for you, you're supposed to assume they're like right next to each other. But I got like in terms of like
Starting point is 00:47:55 timing and terms of editing like a animated movie in terms of like figuring out like visually what how to like sell a gag where he's like flying is pretty funny because you got this huge owl and then they just hold the longest shot where he like flies off into the distance over a waterfall and you slowly see him get smaller and smaller and it's just a static shot and it's a choice that I feel like you know in a band so many made a choice You wouldn't normally see that kind of play. Yeah, no, I mean, this is, there are a couple moments in this movie where we were like, oh, that's not terrible. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:32 But mostly it's just kind of a bland boring movie. So let's skip through it. They confront the gesture, who as far as I'm concerned, never really feels like an honest character. He has his magic staff with like a magic orb on the top and they, Dorothy's having trouble stopping him except the gestures really is worst enemy.
Starting point is 00:48:48 D'Arthi and the other heroes kind of stop dealing with him for a while during the climax as the gesture chases his magic orb across rooftops and down like pipes and things like that. You know, well, they deal with the problem through the violence of attacking enemies with candy. That's when Tug comes in, Tug the tree boat is now a tank and he calls himself tank. And he comes in with some soldiers from Candyland and they're just shooting candy at flying
Starting point is 00:49:12 monkeys and it is relatively violent. Mm-hmm. Yeah. And there's a scene where if you consider monkeys being covered in candy part of it. But there's like, the scarecrow turns the tin man's head into a gun and is working at like an old machine gun with a crank and there's a part with just a shot of the lion blasting people with, I don't know what, out of a candy cane.
Starting point is 00:49:31 It gets weirdly shoot. It's pretty great because he's like kind of turning slowly in slow motion, firing these jelly beans, I guess, indiscriminately. And then it cuts to a shot of one monkey getting hit with multiple jelly beans. And there's no way, because he keeps aiming them in different directions. There's no way they're all hitting the same monkey. Well, they're monkey seeking jelly beans. Oh, there's a big tornado that the jester summons to get rid of Dorothy. And yeah, yeah, yeah, they're going to get sucked into it. They
Starting point is 00:49:58 are a bunch of soldiers march out of the tree tanks mouth. Yeah, they just been hiding as good. And the three and the soldiers, the soldiers, if the China soldiers get broken, they're still alive and still moving. And if the chocolate soldiers, if their heads come off, they're still walking around moving. These are hideous, you know, zombie automatons at this point. Yeah, what should not be? Dorothy, through the power of, I guess,
Starting point is 00:50:18 being a good person. They're like golems. Yeah, they're chocolate golems, which are given out every year by Jewish parents to Jewish children on the holiday of golemms. Yeah, they're chocolate golems, which are given out every year by Jewish parents and Jewish children on the holiday of golemoss or a young golem. Young golem is the day we celebrate how yummy golem, sorry. How much guilt do those cost? A lot because you've got to melt it down to make a golem. Okay. Luckily, gelt is the worst tasting chocolate in the world. So you don't want,
Starting point is 00:50:44 you don't mind melting it down. So Dorothy uses the power of her being a good person, I guess, to break the staff, and she throws it in tornado. The jester jumps into tornado to get the staff. And we see no more of his wicked, hilarious ways. Everybody who was a Marianette, because he turns people to Marianettes, turned back okay, everything's fine. Dorothy goes home, she reveals that the fake appraiser
Starting point is 00:51:07 who's buying everybody's houses for a song is in fact an imposter, the police arrest him, and over the end of it. Yeah, he's been playing multiple roles, multiple identities, like a Dr. Henry Holmes. Like a hilarious Dr. Henry Holmes. He's like a regular, I don't know, can't even think of it. Yeah. Guy who pretends to be other guys. Yeah, that guy. You know, that guy, you know,
Starting point is 00:51:33 who pretend he's a regular catch me if you can. Yeah. Anyway, so un-catchable. What about, what if the un-catchable team goes after catch me if you can? Now that's a team up. No, no, no, they, they're a they Mount team up. That's a that's a it's like a Frankenstein versus Godzilla type thing. They're fighting each other Wait a minute. That's the scientist fights Godzilla Thank you. It seems pretty easy. Does he just create a giant steps under monster? So's together the corpse of giants the corpse of giants into a giant monster. Mego is your whatever the fuck he says together to corpse all of the giants football team. To make one hideous football mass.
Starting point is 00:52:10 Yeah. And it and and Godzilla eats it and it gives and brain damage or something. That's terrible. And he's terrible. Anyway, and Godzilla has to deal with a lot of debilitating health effects later in life. We're sad than it is thrilling.
Starting point is 00:52:24 Yeah. So, Dorothy, and over the end of credit, Dorothy helps them rebuild the town as a song plays. The end of Lesbians of Oz. You're in our culture. And I guess the door's open for them to use that rainbow machine to bring her back and have another legend of Oz.
Starting point is 00:52:41 Rainbow connection. Yeah. Don't bring up that movie. I like more than this movie. So, wow, this is the, somehow this is the longest we've gone. We barely talked about the movie. Yeah, I don't know what happened. Well, we talked about a bunch of stupid stuff, Dan.
Starting point is 00:52:54 Yeah, that's my favorite thing to do. But, um, let's, now what do we do? Let's do final judgments. Uh, what's- Dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, Wow. Classic. Classic Zad is back. I haven't heard that one in a while. Rararararararararararararararararararararararararararararararararararararararararararararararararararararararararararararararararararararararararararararararararararararararararararararararararararararararararararararararararararararararararararararararararararararararararararararararararararararararararararararararararararararararararararararararararararararararararararararararararararararararararararararararararararararararararararararararararararararararararararararararararararararararararararararar What? Dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, We'll equal the results you would desire. Yeah, the nerdy house cat who like figures out the equation that makes a lady house cats possible.
Starting point is 00:53:32 The tensile strength then bra is not enough to withstand my I don't know laser beads. I like how you said lady house cats bras because a lady house cat would have multiple bras for her multiple rows of nipples. House cat would have multiple bras for her multiple rows of nipples Not not attracted by human standards, but do a cat to a cat. I'm beautiful. You know less than six breasts. We seem strange amazing So so final judgment The podcast where we Okay, do it the podcast where we make the UK's to it. No. I've never seen anyone choke to death on laughter, but we're.
Starting point is 00:54:08 And of course. Uh, where we judge the silver bullet to the head. We judge this movie finally, which is to say, was this a good bad movie, a bad, bad movie or movie you kind of liked? I'm going to start. I'm going to say, wow, okay. Here's to the sign yourself the majority opinion there, Chief Justice Dan.
Starting point is 00:54:29 The first and last third of this movie, Bad Bad Movie, the middle third of this movie, I kind of liked it. I kind of liked it. There's a weird sort of magic to the middle part of this movie that the rest of the movie did not sustain. And that's what I have to say about that.
Starting point is 00:54:46 It's too what you have to say. I'm going to say there's a bad, bad movie with the caveat that it is not nearly as bad as I expected it to be watching the trailers. I'm not like a food fighter. There's not a food fighter in Uyla. Well, I remember seeing the trailers. I remember seeing the trailers and the theater and being like, what the fuck am I watching? Because I assumed it was like a degrade Shrek rip-off.
Starting point is 00:55:10 And it was not nearly that bad. Well, this was also like put out by like sunshine media or something, something that sounds like a made-up shell corporation. Summertime entertainment. All right, yeah. So kind of Kelsey Grammer, all of this. It's just summertime entertainment. All right, yeah. So got a Kelsey Grammer, you know, business. This is just summertime entertainment.
Starting point is 00:55:26 It was like a US, it was a US India co-production. Like, it's a, it's a movie that you would think would be like crazy mockers bad. And it's just like, man, and like even I would say like the, the best I can say about it is like, as a huge Wizard of Oz fan, I never felt like this is a, you didn't think that anyone was urinating on Frank Elbaum's grave. El Frank Bommas. El Frank, without it. But I, I think it didn't feel like a,
Starting point is 00:55:53 it didn't feel like a desecration just kind of felt unnecessary. Sure. Yeah, so it's great. So we do have a couple of sponsors. Get the fuck out of the night show. I love them. It's insane. People want to support the whole country. Cool. I think that's wonderful. Let's support them.
Starting point is 00:56:14 Let's support them and find out who they are and what products we can buy. And first, the flop house is brought to you in part by the kind support of audible.com, the internet's leading provider of spoken audio information and entertainment. What does that include, Dan? I mean, audio books. I mean, audio books. Does that mean podcasts? I'm not sure.
Starting point is 00:56:36 Definitely means audio books. Audio books. Well, thanks, Dan. That's the audio books of choice from the Flop Housewives book club. Yes, that's true. That's the audio, audio books of choice from the Flop Housewives book club. Yes, that's true. Yeah, we are, our lovely wives have a book club, which is a thing that they do when we're being assholes and doing this, and they don't want to be around.
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Starting point is 00:57:37 Let's face it, you need a website. Why not, why make it difficult and hard? No, I mean, those words mean the same thing, but. But with different intonations, maybe it's simple. You never say you're totally difficult for a girl. Yeah, sure. I don't know what that means.
Starting point is 00:57:50 You never say you're making me so difficult. Yep. You're the only word. That seems okay. I'm not sure what Squarespace thinks of that being in the middle of the ad, but. Look, what we're saying is, Squarespace takes something that could be really hard.
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Starting point is 00:58:58 Use the code to get a book, start up your account there. Listen to it while you're setting up your website through Squarespace. Yeah, your flybass, flybass fanpage. count there. Listen to it while you're setting up your website. There's a warehouse page. On your new webpage. There is a DERTH of Flop House fan pages. There's of course the Flop wiki, which is great. Yeah. There's a Flop House recommends, babe. But I go to the boomist Flop House ring. There's nothing there. Do you believe in, do you believe in have web rings anymore? Are there even, what's a web ring? It was just a bunch of linked sites and you could click between them. Is there even any deviant art about the Flaw House?
Starting point is 00:59:27 That is a dangerous door to open and I'd rather we not go through it. A Flaw House fan site is one thing. We don't need more fixtures of us and the house cat having sex with each other. I'm Jesse Thornton. I'm Jordan Morris. The federal government has millions of dollars in programs and opportunities that you
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Starting point is 01:00:26 A valuable pamphlet on millet. Your father's approval. Don't wait right now. For all of this and more, drop us a line. Jordan Jesse Goe. One, two, three, iTunes Street, or wherever you download podcasts. Okay, Dan, what's next?
Starting point is 01:00:44 So, uh, I have a few. Do you want to use this chance to talk about some of our other great podcasts on our maximum fun network? That actually would be a good thing to do at this point. Thank you to our network, Max, we've got a lot of great podcasts on the same Maximum Fun Networks. Such a, Jordan Jesse Goe.
Starting point is 01:01:09 You've got Judge John Hodgman. You've got, Judge John Hodgman, our Nemesis podcast. Yeah, listen to it, but be mad when you listen to it. The adventure zone. Shake your fist. My brother and I brother and me, saw bones.
Starting point is 01:01:23 Get a room, my brother and my brother and me, saw bones. Get a room, my brother and my brother and me in the flop house. You got your, Wampam POW, your lady to lady. Pop rocket, right? Yeah, a lot of great pie. You say a venture zone. I did.
Starting point is 01:01:37 Bunker buddies. Did you say bunker buddies? No, it's two or did. I just said it. Can you say my brother and my brother and me? I was worried about the saw bones. Did you mention that? Get a room, my brother, my brother, me and the flop house. Okay, but the point really, go to maximofund.org, check out a lot of
Starting point is 01:01:54 great shows on our network and enjoy them. That's what they're for. For you to enjoy. Not for, I guess, information purposes. No, no. If you want to use some for information purposes, you will be sorely disfigured. A lot of them have more information than this podcast. Well, sure. Like, saw bones as information on it. Yeah, no, that's true. There's actual medical information to be had there.
Starting point is 01:02:19 I mean, you probably, I mean, I fired my doctor. No, that I would not do that. I would not do that. I said I'm a fire. I said, physician, heal the fucking No, that I would not do that. I would not do that. I said I'm a fire. I said, physician. I feel like fucking self and I tossed a match at him. Wow. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:32 You walked away as he exploded. Why did he explode? I don't know. He was just that kind of doctor. He was drinking a lot of beauty. He was a bad doctor. He was a bad doctor who thought it was good to drink beauty. Everyone I deal with is the bad version of themselves bad doctors bad teachers bad
Starting point is 01:02:47 Santa sure bad judges sound like a wall I don't know like NBC's Saturday night locked up. So anyway now is the point and you try to keep trying to order good pizza but you keep getting bad Andy. What about you? What about you? What about you? What about you? That's great. I have bad burger. No, that's terrible.
Starting point is 01:03:10 You know that show good times? I turn it on and bad times plays. You ever have the candy good and plenty? Bad and plenty. That's like you've got a terrible life, hell yeah. You ever heard of the movie It's A Wonderful Life? I'm It's a Terrible Life. I'm worried about you. You know that old British comedy group, The Goodies?
Starting point is 01:03:30 The baddies. You know your favorite movie, Dan? Good luck, Chuck. Can you guess what Elliot's version is? No, I can't. It's called Bad Luck, Chuck. It's called Bad Luck, Chuck. It's called Bad Luck, Charlie.
Starting point is 01:03:43 Nobody wants to be his friend and call him Chuck. Yeah. So ironically bad dad soccer dad. Good dad tennis dad. You know your second favorite movie, The Long Kiss Good Tag. Long kiss bad night, damn. That's my second favorite movie. It's the long kiss. You know the Elton John's song, you hear the favorite movie. It's the one.
Starting point is 01:04:05 You know, you know the Elton John song you hear the most? Bad by Yellowbric Road. Right. Thanks, Bizarro. And Neil Simon's The Goodby Girl. You guessed it, the Bad Boy Boy. Even the by far it was changed. That's how bad it is.
Starting point is 01:04:23 That's the bad it is. Bad boy, Bob. Alright, well, um, thanks. But now Boris bad enough, we're like Boris Good enough. Who was a real person? I'm not going to move on. There's not a place on him. Two letters from listeners like you, the person who's listening to this podcast right now.
Starting point is 01:04:47 If you would written this letter, it could've been your letter that I'm reading right now. That's the tallest tautology I've ever felt. Unless you are the guy or girl who wrote this letter that I'm about to read, in which case, here's. Cheers, cheers, have no fear, because your letter will be read, in which case, cheers. Cheers. Cheers. Have no fear, because your letter will be read on the air tonight.
Starting point is 01:05:09 Or maybe it won't. I don't know, because I don't know you and Dan picks the letters. I've got no idea, and I haven't seen them. But now we're going to read them, and hear them, and be them will be the letters. We'll act them out on our new show the Flophouse letter act out show Sunday is it 10 o'clock on TNT? It was a TNT nose care.
Starting point is 01:05:32 Those drama that song was all as long enough for Stewart to go to the fridge and get a Modello. This is your third beer, sport beer. This counts as one. So anyway, this letter goes a little something like this. I started listening to you earlier this year. From episode one, I'm still only part of the way to being current. I must say I feel like a bit of an underachiever as it's taken me months to reach episode 124,
Starting point is 01:06:02 still all in starring starring Nicholas Cade. Hey, it took us years to get there. While earlier letter writers have reported to Lowe Hanna and her whole back catalog in a week or less, nonetheless, I've been enjoying listening to the podcast fast forward itself through time. Compressed like a time-lapse movie.
Starting point is 01:06:20 Stewart gets married, Elliot writes for Marvel, Dan finds a job and secures his position as PurposeOid number one. And of course, while I was still traumatized by Ding Dong Gate, the back catalog allowed me to fly through all five stages of grief and record time. Now that I've gone too far and attempted to prove my bonafides, I'd like to ask a question. I was thinking, you would do it, Stewart. I was thinking recently about the concept of the setup. When movies go out of their way. The movie, the setup?
Starting point is 01:06:48 When movies go out of their way to show you something early on, so that later when the hero uses it, it doesn't seem like it just came out of nowhere. For example, sometimes a movie has to make sure to show someone swimming. So that later, the audience doesn't react and disbelief when the fittest teenager Earth is able to swim 20 feet.
Starting point is 01:07:05 My question for you is this, what do you think are the examples of some really great payoffs? They could be great because of how subtle or unexpected the setup is, or perhaps because of how insane the payoff is. Anyway, thanks for the great podcast. Perhaps one day our timelines will,
Starting point is 01:07:22 once again be aligned, this has got last name withheld. I'm going to say that one thing that springs to mind immediately is that I feel like all of Edgar Wright's movies are... Man, I wish I could like, I mean, like, all of his movies work really well as comedies because, like, the first half of them are funny on their own terms. And then, not on someone else's terms. No, but like, like, it's not just like... Not on Jacques de Tee's terms.
Starting point is 01:08:01 I saw like, you're like, just like, like bored, like, okay, this is sending something up. Like, no, it's funny in the beginning. You find it as funny. And then the second half of this movie is. Things pay off. Yeah, a series of payoffs that are so elegantly put together that you didn't realize that they were gonna be paid off.
Starting point is 01:08:17 And you're like, okay, great, like everything that happened in the first half meant something. And that's like the kind of, I think that's the first thing that comes to my mind. Yeah, I mean, me too. What about you, Elliot? I'm well first.
Starting point is 01:08:32 Actually, a movie I'm gonna mention is one that is a little, I feel like the Cone Brothers do a similarly very good job of paying things off later they've set up, but one movie that I love, it might be my favorite of their movies, although it is not, I would not say it's the best of their movies, but in the man who wasn't there, there's
Starting point is 01:08:48 a lot of off-hand references to things that are paid off later in ways that don't always make sense and don't always even move the plot forward, but are really funny, like James Gandalfini's wife, or believes that something involving aliens took him away. And so later when Billy Bout the Orton is in jail and walks out, just looks at a flying saucer in the air, nods at it and then walks back into his jail. It's totally goofy and is a non-secondary a lot of ways, but it's a payoff to this thing. I feel like in that movie, there's a lot of loose strands that don't necessarily get tied together, but they reappear in different forms than they started, and it feels like a whole, even though plot-wise,
Starting point is 01:09:30 it's not like that was a big plot payoff or anything. Yeah, I don't know if it's cheating, but to kind of go along with the same lines, but go right, but I feel like Kevin and the Woods is a movie that does a lot of that where they introduce things. I don't know if it totally fits the parameters of the question either. But I feel like things are introduced early on that end up showing up later on that in the board. Definitely.
Starting point is 01:09:54 I mean, all this stuff about the Merman, and that comes up later. It seems like a throwaway joke, but then it becomes a real thing later on. Yeah, and I think that might be the secret to doing these things that payoff is like, it can't be obvious. Like the more obvious the setup, the less satisfying to pay off. Right. Much like, I mean, there's the old checkoff thing about like,
Starting point is 01:10:20 if there's a gun on the mantle night and one of us to go off and I three But like if the camera stops on that gun for a while you know it's gonna go off right so it's not a good payoff like it's It has to be something that is tossed off in act one, but then in act three you're like whoa That was supposed to be this thing which is what a great does so well. I think I think that we're talking about a lot of movies that are similar tonally, but it just occurs to me that like something like Guardians of the Galaxy, like one thing that I like about like the climax of that movie is, it's not necessarily a setup,
Starting point is 01:10:56 but like the fact that the climax of that movie hinges on like Star Lord, suddenly just like dancing and singing in the context of like a big Marvel movie, that's kind of an unexpected thing that happens, but it ties in a different way. Yeah, it's like that in a satisfying way. Or it could even be something as simple as like in Groundhog Day, the like the radio starting at the same place each time each morning.
Starting point is 01:11:29 So in the last day, when it starts at a slightly different point in the song, it is enough to tip you off that something is different. And so it's like the beginning of the payoff of, you know, the conclusion of the film. Like there's, it's a, it's not a set up in the terms of like, this happened in the first act. Now this is going to have a third act's, it's a, it's not a same set up in the terms of like, this happened in the first act. Now, this is going to have an a third act, but it's a something that's seeded a number of times and then bears fruit. Mobile signs. Similar to the best movie of all time, Big Trouble in Old China. Where Jack Burton, early on in the movie, used the phrase, it's all the reflexes. And then later on, totally murders Low Pans,
Starting point is 01:12:03 boiler alert, and says the same iconic line, all of the reflexes. And then later on, totally murders low pants, boiler alert, and says the same iconic line, all of the reflexes. Or I'd say in my candidate for Best Movie Ever, taking of Hellamon 2,3, Martin Balsam sneezing, and Walter Mathis saying Gazentite, and then at the end that paying off, you know, hilarious, hilarious take and catch him up. But that's a, but it's probably the most hottest of takes. But when it first happens, you're not like, that's what's going to trip him up up later that as soon as he sneezes when Walter math is at the room You're like uh, you're like a Stewart side effect
Starting point is 01:12:35 You're like and it's and I'll tell you that movie also has a good example of a red marium setup Which is they know there's a police officer on the train and they keep under cover. And they for some reason, Walter Matthew gets it in his head that it must be a police woman. And so like they so later on with the revealed to the police officer is it's not a woman. It's just a long hair because it's the 70s. He's almost totally ineffective, but he gets shot and he's lying face down and Walter Matthew sees him and he goes, don't worry, Miss.
Starting point is 01:13:06 We'll get in the ambulance. And it's like this joke that's been set up way, way back. And so dumb. Like, it's not a great joke. But it's pretty, but it's just what you need in that moment. You just in Robert Shaw electrocute himself. Spoiler alert. You just had that movie ruined for you.
Starting point is 01:13:23 Let's still go see it. I mean, it's not ruined, it's still a great movie. It's not like... It's a non-stop thrill, right? It's not like what Michael Bayes been doing to people's childhoods from what I hear on the internet. So this next letter is titled Why Dance Size.
Starting point is 01:13:38 Hi. Why is that? Hi floppos. I don't like that name. No, don't not a fan. I've figured it out. It makes us sound like we're grown up, Greekers. I don't like that name. No, don't not a fan. I figured it out. It makes it sound like we're kind of no Greek. I know. I know. That's a problem with it. I thought it sounded so like we're clowns with you know. I figured out I know why dance size. It's because Dan hopes for the best. Dan is brimming with optimism.
Starting point is 01:13:59 Yeah. Sure. Maybe this will be the episode when I can get through a whole thought I'm interrupted. This is finally going to be a movie I kind of like. Today is going to be a good pronunciation day. And then reality sets in and wallops down with a fish full of sad, forcing a sigh from deep within them. I came to this realization when I listened to episode 155, followed by episode 50, I skip around. They both begin with Dan, excited by his persistence and podcasting 50 and life, 155. Hoping for presence from his BPF's best peaches forever.
Starting point is 01:14:33 And he's greeted both times in three years apart with their word-for-word same joke and no gifts. I've attached the audio cut from 51st and 155 seconds, so you can see what I mean. 50 shades of Dan. Audio. So, Si see what I mean. I don't like that. 50 shades of Dan. Audio. So, Sion, you beautiful starry eyed podcaster.
Starting point is 01:14:49 And never let reality rip away that wonderful optimism of yours. Absurdism. Michael, middle name with health, Cadel. Now I would imagine that Dan never goes into the movie saying, hey, this is what we might kind of like, because if that's a possibility, we don't get to watch it. Dan, like the cruel Mr. C is. I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like,
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Starting point is 01:15:37 Sure, what I like is that you mispronounced, appreciate, and neither of us fucked with you. Yeah, I appreciate that too. Or I love this letter because of the truth. The truth that it carries. I am optimistic. Yeah, and that's the problem. Yeah, optimistic prime.
Starting point is 01:15:52 That's the name. That's the blog. I'm like fucking Charlie Brown with the football. You like fucking Charlie Brown? With a football? This is, same for your deviant art page, dude All right, how many more letters we got we got one more And it goes like this. Let's crack this one out. What's
Starting point is 01:16:13 Crack so cans Dan Like the tires and kick the fire title Dan read this letter some tires light them on fire God, it's titled Dan read this letter. It's the shire It's titled scge the shire. No. It's titled. Scrooge the shire. Dan. It's a different thing. Read this letter. It has a button.
Starting point is 01:16:30 It's your peaches. Dan, these letters really got to the heart of you. You're an optimist who loves butts. Quite some time listener, first time writer. For into my recommended you and the flop house to me, when I was still listening to other bad movie podcasts, I was quickly converted and finished your entire back catalog. You can add me to a large number of people who've already written and said,
Starting point is 01:16:50 you helped them get through a difficult time. Well, I'm glad we could do that. Last year was not pleasure. It mean, and just to say, honestly, it means a lot to us when people say that. And we hope that we've, this is not what we're setting out to do. In fact, we're setting out to hurt people. But if we could help anyone, then that just by being goofy, then we're, it's very touched. We're very touching to us that we've been able to do that. You might think about registering the podcast as an officially recognized
Starting point is 01:17:13 antidepressant and start a medical revolution. We can't keep the run wondrous, reviving powers the flop house to see forever. But I also have a question for all three of you. Obviously, the listeners know all about your taste in movies, and we've heard of your favorite comics, historical figures, beers and dinosaurs. Elliott is totally right. You got to pronounce this for me. Diannicus.
Starting point is 01:17:39 Diannicus all the way. Dionysus? Dionysus is not my favorite Greek god by far. But there have only been, that's the Greek name. Roman name is Bocchus, right? Not the other way around. It could be wrong. But there have only been a few hints about your respective tastes in music.
Starting point is 01:17:56 Elliott seems to know a lot about metal. All Dan is more of an Andy Lister. I don't know. I don't know. Does invisible mania have an original soundtrack? It does. It's also... Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:08 So my question is... You want a big trouble. An invisible mania. My question is... I wish the song was the theme song for every movie. Big trouble. Big trouble. In terms of an deer man.
Starting point is 01:18:20 Big trouble. In Mary Poppins. In Oneri People, the imitation gay. Run, run into the mystic Kramer versus Kramer. So these are all appropriate. So my question, what is your favorite style? What's a movie without big trouble? Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 01:18:40 Let me just get through the end of this fucking thing. Nothing but trouble. Because we are running long. This is a very long episode. So just let me finish the email. So my question, what is your favorite style of music or your favorite artists or favorite albums? I'd be much obliged if you could give me an answer.
Starting point is 01:18:53 Maybe even on air, I'm sure flop fans would like to know as well. And PS, I promised a butt. This is a from Christian last name withheld. PS, I promised a butt. Mainly to increase my chances of Dan reading this, but I don't want to disappoint Purvisoid number one. So there you go. And there's an Ashi butt.
Starting point is 01:19:11 So it's made out of what? It's a man out of punctuation. So you got to, you know, isn't it? You got a Y. Is that supposed to be an Ashi? Ashi, I don't, Ashi? It's very Ashi. You know, as punctuation.
Starting point is 01:19:25 It's a flat one. Yeah, it's got a leisurely feel to it. Yeah, it's not a Tiffany chef as pumpkin, but it's okay. It's been a long time since that came up. So the question is, what do you mode a con? What music do we like? You know, our top bands or top albums? Yeah, your top bands or something, right?
Starting point is 01:19:44 Shut the fuck up wait But let me do my thing. I'll go real quick. Yeah, yes How about I go real quick first to detensify the situation. I'm a big fan of metal I used to listen a lot of punk when I was younger, but I haven't listened to so much of that lately But lately because I've been trying I've been putting it on while I feed my son, lunch, or breakfast, or what have you, or dinner, I've been listening to a lot of classical music. Like raffi? No, and rediscovering my love of, you know, Chakowski and so forth.
Starting point is 01:20:14 But I'll say my favorite album is still unleashed in the east, the kind of live Judas Priest album, which much of it was done in the studio after the fact, including, I think, all of the vocals. But it's a really good album. If you want to hear faster, harder versions of a lot of Judas Priest's older songs. I'll say if you want to boil me down to a genre, I like big butts. And I cannot lie. I like all buts so much. I like new wave, like all but so now I like new wave like punk new wave
Starting point is 01:20:47 I my favorite like five bands if I had to round down will probably be the Beatles Talking heads the clash the replacements and Niko case those are my favorites. Do what do you got? Yeah, I guess yeah, I'm a big metalhead. I listen to a lot. Like the robot turtle, the same name. Yep. We both, me and metalhead, the turtle, both like Iron Maiden, King Diamond, like mid range carcass,
Starting point is 01:21:21 90s death metal. So you're making these names up. Yeah, the way, napalm death. You just want to see napalm death recently. Yeah, I saw napalm death metal. So you're making these names up. Yeah, the way, Napalm death. You just want to see Napalm death recently. Yeah, I saw Napalm death recently. They're still great. Yeah, I don't know. It's still out there, Napalming people.
Starting point is 01:21:33 All of it. All of it. Yeah, I mean, if you get Napalm, do you expect to be dead afterwards? Yeah, all that kind of stuff. I think a lot of, and also I should mention also something that gets left out a lot of time when people think, well, me, is that I'm a big classic country fan. Particularly,
Starting point is 01:21:48 Loretta Lynn is my favorite of all time. Okay. So I think if Loretta Lynn and Rob Halford ever made an album together, I am online for that album. Sure. Loretta Lynn Online. I wanted to want to Jackson and Glenn Day. Yeah, so I hope that you have a tiny line that and basically all Metallica put somebody together. Wow. If they could work with like a London symphony, not really.
Starting point is 01:22:15 I think I feel like we've got like this like weird like also like Vin diagram though of the flop house and that like you and I all yet share like certain like pumpkin new wave stuff and Stewart you and all get share like metal stuff And Stewart you and I share what like we love of butts whose Johnny bailed the bars. Yeah I mean, we certainly love that Man in motion. Yeah
Starting point is 01:22:57 Yeah, like cheesy 80s the no clearly your love of tone. Look is that is what connects you So yeah, I hope that answer your question But now the final and sad is you's the way we do. The final say, the linear. My dad's favorite driving song. Really? For years when I was a kid, he had Europe's album that had final countdown on it. He would play just that one song from the album
Starting point is 01:23:19 when we were going on like a driving trip somewhere. Yeah, what else is on that album? I don't know. He would stop it, rewind the tape, and then take the tape out. My dad would always play a shitload of Bob Seeger, and my mom would play the Rocky Horror Picture Show soundtrack until I started singing along to it. And then she's like, my son probably shouldn't be singing this. I see. My parents just played a lot of Billy Joel, a lot of Beatles and a lot of Billy Joel. Yeah. But I grew up in the Tri- the trusted area. So what do you know?
Starting point is 01:23:47 This is the segment where we recommend movies that we actually liked unlike whatever the fuck we watched I was told already Dorothy's Dorothy's It's a legend It's called Dr. Oz Dorothy's prevent. The original King's of Oz, Dorothy style. Oh, it's too.
Starting point is 01:24:09 What do you want to write about it? Dorothy does Oz. I'm going to recommend a movie that is a remake of a movie that Dan recommended a while ago. I don't remember. I'm going to recommend the movie Sorcerer, directed by William Friedkin. It's a remake of the French movie, Wages of Fear. Correct.
Starting point is 01:24:28 So what Dan said applies to Sorcerer. Only way more because it's in color. Yeah, it's about a tangerine dream soundtrack. It's about four guys who are desperate men who they're in their original. It's the original. Heo-Won. We're just about their penis as we'll explode. in who the majority of the you want to be a lot of their penis is will explode. And they
Starting point is 01:24:50 it's it's pretty great. They all end up in in a South American country that I don't remember. And they are tasked with they volunteer for a mission driving trucks through the jungle transporting a dynamite nitro glycerin. And it's super tense and super great.
Starting point is 01:25:09 And there's a couple of moments where there's like, you're just watching a truck trying to go over this shitty, shoddy wooden bridge. And I'm watching this on the theater and I'm like, no modern movie would do this. Like no modern movie, like the climax would be watching a truck try to make it over a bridge. And in a way it was great because it was still super fucking tense. So Sorcerer, William Friedkin with Roy Schneider. It's Roy Schneider.
Starting point is 01:25:41 And I thought it was Schneider. Roy Schneider. Roy Schneider. Yeah. And I think Elzor Bigelow. And I think Schneider, it's Roy Schneider. Roy Schneider, Roy Schneider. Roy Schneider. Yeah. And I think Elz are big alone. And I think Frank Cisco Reball or Revol, who's from one of my favorite directors in the universe, Stewart Gordon's movie, Day Gone. Who gets his skin totally ripped off in that movie.
Starting point is 01:25:59 Final appearance. No, he doesn't get his skin ripped off in source. But go watch Day Gone too, because he gets the skin ripped off. I want to recommend a movie that I'm kind of surprised I'm recommending. It's called Legends of Oz. Dorothy's returned. No, we, you know, as members of the writer's guild, we get a lot of screeners and I'm like, ah, whatever, this movie I want to see, this movie, I don't
Starting point is 01:26:21 actually want to see like, uh, I got bregs McGee over. No, I'm just saying like, uh, I got bregs McGee. No, no, I'm just saying like, bregs. I'm just saying that like I like we have the opportunity to watch movies. Yeah, check out Bradley Cooper. Oh, man, like we wouldn't necessarily watch these movies like, but, uh, recently I watched Wild, the Reese Witherspoon movie. Well, no, not. Wild, the Reese Witherspoon movie about, no, not the Lord Durn movie. David Lynch, all the Lord Durn actually is in wild too. But no, I, I'm not necessarily like usually a fan of
Starting point is 01:26:58 like kind of like the Vision Quest school of movies like, what about Vision Quest? I've never seen like... What about Vision Quest? I've never seen it. What about DreamScape? But these movies were like, there's been something that happened in someone's life and they're gonna fix it by going on like a big trip. Your eats, praise loves, or your into the wilds is,
Starting point is 01:27:20 but there's something about wild that I really... I think those are probably pretty different movies. But they're like, the, certainly the endings are different, right? They are different movies. They both involve eating. They're both, they're different movies, but they're similar in that,
Starting point is 01:27:33 like there's some sort of like personal upheaval that this, like the main character feels like they're gonna solve by going on like a trip. On a journey, on a quest. Yeah, a vision quest if you will. Like a Lord of the Rings. And while somehow I feel like, like sidesteps a lot of those problems by like not insisting on it that much, like it's a very low key movie. Like low key, isn't it? No kidding. Ah, you know,
Starting point is 01:28:02 like it really like it's it's staggering how much talk there in it. How much talk there is when I recommend a movie versus either of you too. But now like it's what about Wo-Ton? Oh boy god. No, but I agree Dan. I saw while also and I thought it it avoid a lot of pitfalls of that type of movie. It just doesn't make it it doesn't insist upon itself. It's just like this woman goes on this trip and like their minor epiphanies and, you know,
Starting point is 01:28:31 like you just live with her on it and it's not a big deal. She has truly reached rock bottom in her life in a way that justifies a dramatic break in the person she was and the person she will be. But also, yeah, it's not a movie that is trying to get you to wish you were on the trip with that person, right? Which a lot of those are where you are supposed to be living vicariously through this person's
Starting point is 01:28:53 experiences. This is your, you're with this person on their trip, but you're never supposed to be like, oh, if only I could be there doing that. Right. And you're also like, you're sympathetic with her because like, you're a human being who has an empathy for other human beings, but you're not, but the movie does not insist that you're like supposed to like believe in this woman as like some sort of paragon of anything. She's not the same. Yeah, you're like she's a fucked up lady who like is doing this thing to like help herself. and it's interesting to watch that happen. And what she goes through is truly arduous. And not to undercut your recommendation, but what do you think that the majority
Starting point is 01:29:31 of critical reception kind of pass it by? And what do you think? Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I've got good reviews. I just think that for whatever reason, the promotion, the advertising for it just
Starting point is 01:29:46 failed it like and I think I honestly don't remember seeing any ads for yeah, I did not see it I Nick Nick Hornby Did the adaptation for it. Yeah, I wrote the script and I think that's why he granted it But I think I think that that probably Helped it though because like I feel like it has a certain like low key like Charm and wit that a lot of these types of movies don't have So there's not even here if you think it's not the kind of movie for you. I think that you might enjoy it well. Yeah, it's worth watching I'm gonna recommend a different movie about people on the run from their past and on an arduous quest And that's a movie that is a pretty goofy movie and a different movie about people on the run from their past and on an arduous quest.
Starting point is 01:30:25 And that's a movie that is a pretty goofy movie, but not as a goofy movie. It's called the goofy movie, a goofy movie, which is the movie Logan's Run. Now when I was a kid, I saw Logan's run and I think I saw. That's Dave Foley's character in News Radio's favorite movie. Yeah, well, it's not my favorite movie, but when I was a kid, I saw it and I must have seen like an edited for TV version of it and thought that that was it. And I watched it again recently. And you're like, and you're like, and then Jimmy Aguudder is totally new.
Starting point is 01:30:53 Well, that's part of it. But, and it's way more appropriate for me to like that than it was in walk about when she was 16, but there's something about it that's, it is very goofy. It's a goofy movie, partly because because of the 70s fashions. But at the same time, there's a lot of stuff in it that is genuinely troubling, and there are a lot of scenes in it that as an adult, I found much more effective in disturbing than when I was a kid. Yeah, because you're over 30 now.
Starting point is 01:31:21 Well, maybe that's part of it. But there's silly stuff in it, but like, there's the scene. I still think it's true, but is there goofy stuff in it? But there's something, I found it interesting to watch it as like this weird last gasp of a certain type of science fiction movie because the special effects in it are not very good. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:31:38 But this is one year before Star Wars came out. And so it's like watching this movie and putting myself in the mindset of someone who this is as good as science fiction is going to get as far as I'm concerned as a science fiction fan in 1976. It's a silly movie, but it's trying to deal with some kind of ideas about society.
Starting point is 01:31:56 There's some scenes in it that are genuinely either disturbing or frightening or exciting, but it still looks kind of crappy and not knowing that just around the corner is this movie that is not in any way disturbing. It's just a great adventure movie, but looks a lot better. But looking at it through the lens of science fiction of 1976, I actually enjoyed it a lot.
Starting point is 01:32:16 There's a lot of stuff in it that goes on too long. There's stuff in it that's silly, that doesn't make sense. The acting in is not the best. Like there's a lot of things. I'm not like Westworld. Kind of, which is a movie I love. But it's a movie that is very much of its time,
Starting point is 01:32:31 but I found really enjoyable to watch. Now, I agree in that, I feel like there's something really charming about watching a science fiction movie that is as much about the time it was made in as the time it reports to be about. But like this is, this is, yeah, I mean, I feel that way when I read like older science fiction too.
Starting point is 01:32:53 Yeah, I read a lot of like 50s and 60s science fiction and like stars my destination and stuff. Exactly. And it's like the, yeah, best your stuff, especially. And it's like about the things that are going on then. So like Logan's run as a movie by, made by an aging studio executives about their fears that the world is too obsessed
Starting point is 01:33:13 with youth is an interesting thing. Like I kept thinking like, all the stars are young in this, but the people who made the movie were not young. I assume they're all like old pros. And like, what was it like to make this movie about a world where everybody is under 30 and no one can live longer than that? Like, people were worried that they were getting, maybe that this youth culture was going to drive them out.
Starting point is 01:33:35 Like, there's a lot of- It's like that Justin Time movie we watched. That's exactly. Hamburger steak, etc. But like, once you- We're worried about how those beetle boots are going. I'm like, growing everyone's laughing. And all the minis skirts.
Starting point is 01:33:46 Once you can get past the truly horrendous special effects in the explosion scenes, we're literally just optical processed explosion fireworks on top of the shots, then there's a lot of neat stuff in it. But yeah, it's a silly movie. You gotta watch it half with half laughing, you know. It's got a rainbow on the poster. Yeah. What one foot on one foot on the beach basically is what you're saying. Yeah, yeah. And keep reaching for the stars. So somehow this has become the longest episode ever. Well, you know, when you're if you made it this far, you
Starting point is 01:34:19 get a merit dance. You have gold like the legend of us continues to return. Curly's gold. They're not all going to be like this. Maybe the last Oz dinosaur. Yeah, why had he get so long? I don't know. Magic. Probably. Yeah, as magic gathering.
Starting point is 01:34:39 Wow. Somebody tapped a shit little land of cards. Some fan tapped a bunch of forest mana. And suddenly we found the power to do a long episode So we should sign off, but for the full-up house. I've been damn a coy. Hey, I've been steward welling town the next episode Elliot Kaelin promises will be shorter. Get night everyone slam and salmon. Has anyone ever seen that movie? Like, I mean, in the history of the world.
Starting point is 01:35:12 Okay. Like, did that... Maybe Elliot. No, no. Slam and salmon. Did that make any dollars? Was that... You're a big...
Starting point is 01:35:22 Yeah, people... There's some people in the middle of that. I'm not saying that, like... I'm not saying that like I'm not saying that I'm not saying that broken lisp look I'm not saying that broken lisp has done some fine work I'm saying as anyone seeing this statement Sam somebody has seen it. I mean sure the editor when he was working on it Saw it. Sure whoever did the color correction. You know they had to plug his eyes out first like J. Chan and your scars become a very great They had to pluck his eyes out first. Like J. Chandra Scars become a very great television comedy director. I'm not casting a spursion. I'm just saying. Yeah. I'm just, I don't believe that anyone's seeing a slammer.
Starting point is 01:35:54 I was talking to a woman who lives. It seems like a weird, this is a weird conspiracy for you to try to align. Yeah, we're in place for me to like dig in, you think? Like we're placed for to plant my flag. Yeah, this is your hill to die on. Yeah. We're in armies of broken lizard devotees, come and try and take the hill from you.
Starting point is 01:36:12 Again, I was talking like Talon guys, not saying anything. I was talking to a woman who was an extra on beer fest. Uh huh. And she was complaining that she didn't know what was worse, either the constant pressure to have her take her top off in the scenes or the fact that she didn't know what was worse, either the constant pressure to have her take her top off in the scenes or the fact that she had to sit around drinking lukewarm, non-alcoholic beer.
Starting point is 01:36:31 Wait, so what was the problem? The two of us. If those things were not the problem, they'd say those were the problem. Those were the problems. Oh, okay, that makes sense. And she was complaining about how the slamming salmon doesn't exist and nobody's ever seen it. Yeah, it's weird, right?
Starting point is 01:36:50 What is the slamming thing? It's a salmon that's slamming. What's not to understand about this? Is it like, it's in the title. Is it like you go to a restaurant and you're like, please try the slamming. It's slamming. It's slamming.
Starting point is 01:37:03 I have a question, Dan. Did we watch the movie slamam and Sam and today? Why are we talking about it? I didn't know. It's stuck in my head. It's one of those movies that I've never seen and never will see, but the title will stay in my head forever. Like those Madden They've Send Man and their flymishes?
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