The Flop House - FH Mini 140 - Halloween Costumes on Film, with Hallie Haglund

Episode Date: November 1, 2025

Hallie stuck around to help ease your Hallie-ween hangover, as Elliott guides the peaches through a survey of Halloween costumes in cinema. Who wore it best, and whose costumes were just lame? We put on our cattiest Mr. Blackwell costumes and decide! And remember -- MOVEMBER starts next week. Other than this brief Shocktober close-up mini, all four of November's remaining shows will be FULL EPISODES!See The Flop House LIVE IN CHICAGO this November! OR if you prefer to watch us from the comfort of your own home: Tickets for Flop TV Season 3 are ON SALE!Subscribe to our NEWSLETTER, “Flop Secrets! It's got fun stuff in it!

Hello everyone and welcome to the Flop House Mini. It's the day after Halloween, so we're still doing Halloween stuff. If you're listening to this right now, you probably have a belly full of candy. You're still wearing whatever part of your Halloween costume you didn't have to take off to have sex in. But I want you to continue that half Halloween spirit through this episode. I'm joined, of course, by my post-Halline ghoulish companions. Dan Maccabra McCoy. Board Spookyton.

That's Stuart Wellington. And we're joined by a special guest, Howley Hagland. Not puns, exactly. Just kind of a spooky way to pronounce the name. Howling us. She, like, emphasized the howl and the hag. A part of it.

That's fair. I was born Halloween. I was, I'm a born Halloween pun. I don't even have to try. That's true. Hallie we, That's what we should have done. I should have done a mini where it was Halloween.

And it's just all about, we all dress as Hallie, you know. Especially last week we talked a lot about what Hallie used to dress like when she was young. Yeah. Not now when she's even younger. Now we know how to do it. Yeah. So I wanted to use this mini because Halloween when you're listening to this episode is technically probably over, but the Halloween

spirit continues all year long unless you're a Halloween spirit store in which case you're closed for much of the year but then you open up around what August, you know? All important stuff. Late July. Used to be a Forever 21.

It was turned out. It's dead now. Forever didn't last as long as it used to. So they're dead at Forever 21. So I'm going to talk about Halloween movies, the Halloween movies,

but not necessarily the Halloween movies you might be thinking of. So there's the Halloween movies, yes, the series of films that are mostly about masked slasher Michael Myers, but for movies supposedly set on... From Saturday Night Live? Yes, yeah, it's about

Mike Myers, after the failure of the love guru goes on a slashing spree, yeah. But he does it in the cat and the hat makeup and with the Linda Rich Melrose. Oh, that is scary. Yeah, it's very scary. Is he an ax murderer or did he marry one? He merely married an ex-murred. Yeah.

Although he doesn't, the movie, he doesn't really marry an ex-murder. No, no, we don't want to spoil what the truth is. He must not spoil the end of, the twist ending of someone married an ex-merger. There's a big sign up at the box of it that says,

does not actually marry Axe Murder, no refunds. But for movies supposedly set around Halloween, these so-called Halloween movies, they don't have a lot of the best part of Halloween, which is costumes, right? There's the one Halloween movies at the third one that's about the masks, right?

And Mike Myers wears a sheet in the first one at one point. But there's not really a lot of like Halloween dress up in the Halloween. Well, I mean, he's wearing a mask at all times as well. If you wear it at all times, it stops being a costume just becomes his face, you know? It's his, it's a way of like Albino, William Shatner costume. Yeah, I feel like there's a, it's a, it's not exactly, it stops being a costume and just wear it all the time. Yeah. Like Rorschach, that's his real face.

what's underneath it is the mask. True, true. So I wanted to talk about other movies set around Halloween that have Halloween costumes in them that really bring their costume games. So today on The Flop House, I want to talk to you guys about these Halloween movies, and for each one, I want you to rate the costumes in the movie,

and I want you to tell me, how would we turn this actual Halloween movie into a part of the Halloween movie franchise? How do we make this a Mike Myers Halloween movie? So I'm going to share some visuals with you that the audience at home will not see but that's okay. I'm going to have

describing Dan McCoy and Stuart Word Picture Wellington and maybe perhaps even Hallie, hey, can you tell us what this looks like Haglind's telling us what these costumes look like and describing them.

So let me just share this. Hold on. Oh, you know what? I have to open up this. Let me make this file. How much of this do you think? Alex is keeping it. Stretch this out.

Yeah, that's great. That's good. I had it open before. So, Stuart, what are you up to? What's, what do you got on tap for the rest of the day? Yeah, well, I got to take a shower, probably hit the treadmill first. Oh, yeah, in that order, probably. Yeah, probably.

And then, uh, put on some clothes and then head to the Alamo draft house where I'm watching Death Stucker. Or the, how many times will this be? This is the third time this week, yeah. Okay, so we're going to start with the first of our Halloween movies. That's right. It's Karate Kid from 1984. Guys, can you see this, this visual right here. Uh, yes, we can.

So can you, Dan, Can you describe for me? What are the classic iconic Halloween costumes from Karay Kid? Well, I'm going to start with the bad kids first. Of course, the- Okay, not the way the pictures are ordered on the slide, but that's fine, yeah. Okay, the cobra Kai Dojo is wearing some skeleton costumes. It's like a body suit with, you know, like all of the, you know, torso and leg bones on it.

And then they've done makeup for the faces to, you know, make it look like they've got eye sockets rather than eyes, nose, et cetera. They have like a white hood to give the impression of a bald cat. Well, one of them does. Yeah.

One of them is a skeleton with hair. Well, that's because the hood came off. The cow, the bald cat came off. And, uh, well, first, how would you guys rate these costumes? Before we go on to Danny's costume, how would you rate these skeleton costumes? What's the rating scale?

The rating scale goes from zero, which means bad costume, to 10, which means, is that a real skeleton walking towards me, what a costume. I'm going to go with seven. This is not like a fancy costume, but it's a good execution of like

a classic costume. Like these are, you know, pretty menacing skeleton guys. Yeah, I'm a sucker for something that looks like a classic costume that's still a costume. Yes. And so yeah, I'll say a seven as well.

Yeah, yeah, spooky. I mean, spook me. I would have gone higher. That's what you need. I think what really tips this over to me is the group aspect of it. There's only two of them in this picture here, but there's at least, I think, four of these guys wearing these costumes. Well, how do we know that?

Because you've seen Karate Kid. But it's a, I like the idea that they all coordinated. We're all going to play skeletons. We're going to jump around and kick this other guy's butt. And I think that as skeletons do. And I have to assume that they practice the skeleton dance from the Disney cartoon of the same name. We just don't see it in the movie. I think this is a great skeleton costume.

Dan, why don't you tell me about the other main costume people may remember from Karate Kid? Sure. This is a, this is a shower costume. This is a, you've got a sort of a circular frame from which a shower curtain has been hung, a polka dotted shower curtain, and then you've got the shower head poking out on top with, I think that's sort of like streamers, like sparkly streamer, simulating the water. And, of course, in the movie, this is functional because it allows Daniel to go to the Halloween party hidden from the Cobra Kai who want to kick his ass. And he can, you know, pull Elizabeth's shoe inside this shower thing.

For canoodling? Yeah, canoodling. Making a shoeer. Yeah. You know, maybe not a great costume for the people around this shower. It takes up a lot of space, but otherwise, very clever. Yeah, so, Stuart, give me your rating on this costume. Yeah, I mean, I think there's a great costume.

I think it was probably pretty hard to see what's going on outside of the costume. I mean, for accuracy, this is clearly like an eight. Like, that's a pretty impressive thing. It does look like there's just a shower in the middle of the room. Doesn't seem functional. I didn't even know that was a costume, honestly. You just thought that all these people were waiting around to shower in their costumes. They want to shower off the makeup, you know, that they have on from their costumes.

That makes sense. So, Hallie, you thought it was that, would you give it a high mark for being that? Yeah, I would give it. Let's go nine. I love a homemade costume. Like, that's my objection. The skeleton one, you can buy that at a store. But someone who is Daniel put a lot of effort into making that shower. You don't know that the Cover Kai's guy didn't screen print those skeleton body stockings. Maybe they did that in the school screen printing lab. I gave it a seven, but I'm giving the, I'm given the shower in nine. I love it. And Dan, what about you? Yeah, I'm also going to give it a nine. It's clever. It's well executed. If I was, around it again like it takes up a lot of space and when necessarily like it but you know if Ralph Machio pulled the inside to canoodle

you'd be a great place to canoodle with Ralph Machio but also but also like if you're wearing this thing and you're not hiding from Cobra Kai it has the advantage of there are a lot of costumes you could wear that make it very hard to drink or eat

he's like basically just like in normal clothes inside the shower so that's convenient and Dan you're kind of a shy so it's a nice costume for a shy person you could pretend to be somebody else while you're in it oh yeah it's me uh bruno yeah and suddenly you're the most popular guy in the park yeah you play the harmonica i'm surprised because i have to say my opinion of the shower i would give it like a two this costume it looks like a real shower but one it is a pain for both him and everyone around him he has trouble seeing out of it people are bumping into it all the time but also what's fun about a

a shower like what's fun about being a shower for Halloween a skeleton cool a shower what no way why'd you just be an ironing board for Halloween it's the toaster for my son was a washing machine for his first Halloween costume and he loved it and it was a great costume I feel like that that's the funniest thing to be something for Halloween that nobody expects you to be yeah the fun of it is you're a shower where a shower is not normally yeah it's not you know disruption oh I understand Well, we certainly have a discreven opinion here, but how would you make this movie into a Halloween horror movie?

How would you get Mike Myers? I feel like the answer to all of these, Elliot is to add Mike Myers, Michael Myers to them. Yeah, but then what happened? And just go a little bit further. But how did we have, do we have, is sort of Michael Myers like, does he go after the cobra Kai guys first? And they try to fight him and they're defeated.

And then at the end, Dan, if he steps out of the shower in a towel. Yeah. Oh, Michael Myers did? Yeah. Or how about Michael Myers is. you know, he's been, I guess he doesn't really die the way that Jason does

and get resurrected. But I was like maybe Cobra Kai like summons Michael Myers somehow to try and take Daniel down not realizing that Michael Myers is not discerning in who he's going to stalk. It's more of like a pumpkin head type situation. Yeah.

Yeah. Or like the, yeah, I mean, of course Michael Myers would show up and then the Cobra Guy guys are trying to feed him using their karate doesn't work. You can't sweet his wig. Can't.

But then Daniel is able to defeat him by using because he is a more soulful fighter and mr miagi is he aware of michael myers like oh no i've got i've got this i have to teach you the ways of stopping this guy or is that uh yeah yeah he learned about him back in okinawa war he was involved in you know and then michael miars is walking by and he catches him with chopsticks oh yeah he does yep there you go we figured that one out all right well let's move on to the next Halloween movie that's right it is to kill a mocking bird from 1963. Hallie, can you describe the spooktacular costume that Scout is wearing in this scene?

Scout is wearing something that looks kind of like a bowling pin without the very top knob of it, except it's, I mean, it's gray because this is a black and white photo, but I'm assuming it's brown in, you know, technicolor. And it's labeled ham. Yeah. Yep, and there's like a little slot for her to look at a ham. Oh, yeah, there's a little eye slot. Yeah, so this is her ham costume from the Halloween pageant and to kill a mockingbird. My favorite thing about this costume is that it's straight from the book.

And in the book, there's something very funny about her having dressed as a ham. And in the movie, they just go with it. They don't try to make it cool. They just give her this big clumsy ham costume. So thank you for the description. Howie, how do you rate this costume? I mean, it's, it's adorable. And it's so funny that it's labeled ham because you wouldn't know what the fuck it is.

So, you know, it's so endearing. I give it a, I give it a seven. Okay. Dan, Stuart, how do you feel? Do you agree? I'm going to say this doesn't look anything like a ham. I'm giving it a two. Wow. Wow.

I'm going to hear it here, folks. I can hear scathing. I can hear scouts tears. Yeah. I'm going way far in the other direction. I'm going to give it a 10. Okay. Oh, the direction from Stewart.

I was like, Hallie and Stuart were on opposite ends of the scale. Are you going down the Z axis this time, Dan, to the third dimension? No, I love this. I love this costume. I disagree that it doesn't look like a ham. Like, it looks like, you know, like one of those big, those big hams, like the full ham that you get. Like, it doesn't look at John Ham? Yeah, I'll get you a full John Ham. It looks like John Ham. Yeah. But I like this, you know, it's like this old-fashioned, like I guess paper machet costume of a ham that also is labeled ham on it. What could be better than that? All right. I love this costume. I think it's great.

It is not the best costume, though, for when you're being chased by Michael Myers. So how do we, to kill a mockingbird, how do we make this title literal and insert Michael Myers and the Halloween franchise into this movie? And now this is, do we set it? It's set in the past. Is this a, is this a, did Michael Myers fall through a time warp? Is this some sort of a prequel or is this Michael Myers' grandfather? How do we deal with that? Michael Myers is on trial for raping a white woman.

Oh, okay. Well, that is engaging with the plot of to kill a mockingbird. I think it's not the best way for us to do it. But it really upends the novel and the movie's plea for tolerance if the accused party, the falsely accused party is a slasher killer. Hey, he's a slasher killer. He's not a rapist. Good point.

Yeah, it's got to be for the right crime. I see what you're saying. Yeah, Michael Meyer's senior, senior maybe, is the one perpetrating these crimes. Yeah, yeah. It's because the tainted bloodline of Michael Myers. I was thinking you end up with a Boo Radley Michael Myers fight, because Boo Radley is kind of like a good guy, Michael Myers. Yeah.

Yeah. And he takes his silk doll. And his name has boo in it, which sounds scary. Yes, automatically scary. Yeah, and then maybe it turns out that Boo Radley is a ghost. I don't know. I'm just throwing ideas out here. Let's move on to the next movie.

So there's another spooktacular Halloween classic that's about children doing things they shouldn't on Halloween, perhaps playing with things they shouldn't. And that's, Meet Me in St. Louis from 1944, classic movie musical, one of the greatest of all original

two film musicals. And in the Halloween seen of this for people who haven't seen it, Margaret O'Brien and one of the other sisters I forget their little kids, they dress up in costumes

from the era when Halloween costumes weren't specific things, so much as just putting on whatever. And they, they prank the one neighbor in the town

that's coded as an immigrant or perhaps non-Christian. And then they gleefully have a bond fire and then throw a mannequin in front of a trolley and they get in trouble for it, but they're just so gleeful. Even while Margaret O'Brien is being spanked for that, she has this smile on her face because she's so happy that she threw a mannequin in front of a trolley and made everyone scared.

So guys, first, Stuart, can describe these costumes that these girls are wearing? Yeah, they look like a couple of ragamuffins wearing oversized coats and hats and scarves and sweatshirts and they have like soot or something smeared on their faces as well as one young ladies holding a skeleton mask and the other child has a large nose maybe a fake nose and a pair of glasses. Yeah.

And kind of a bowler hat. Yeah. Like, yeah, I'd say the shorter... The other one's wearing like a blossom hat. It's like a pirate hat with too big flowers on it. It does look like a blossom hat. Yeah. Yeah, the shorter girl looks sort of like a hobo with a

Orson Well's nose added to the mix. And then, yeah, and then we do have this mask that looks like a kind of like Tim Burton stop motion project figure. Is that supposed to be a skeleton mask or a gorilla mask? Maybe it's a gorilla skeleton. So, guys, what are your grades for these costumes? Dan, I'm going to start with you again. I mean, I really like that mask. I think that mask is super cool.

The rest of it is just kind of a mishmash. So I'm going to go with a three. Yeah, I mean, I don't want to knock them points just for maybe not having the resources to get some really nice costumes. Or the know-how. This is pre-even bad ham costume technology. This is, it made in the 40s and set at the turn of the century. So they really didn't have the kind of costume know-how that we have now. There's just not enough of a singular vision here presented.

So I will also say a two. Okay. I think that this smaller one is being handicapped by being grouped in with the bigger one. Because I think that the smaller one's costume is better, who's wearing the bowler hat and actually looks like a hobo. So I feel like that could be Wallace Sean, and I wouldn't be surprised. I think that I would give her a six and the other girl, too. Oh, wow. Okay.

And so now is the question. Have any of you seen Meet Me in St. Louis? Are you familiar with this movie at all? No. I've seen clips from it, but I've not seen a whole movie. You are missing out. It's a beautiful movie. It's really fun.

It's really wonderful. So then I guess it's going to be hard for you to tell me how to insert Michael Myers into this. So it's the store. It's set in 1904. Michael Myers wins a free ticket to St. Louis. Oh, no. Here we go again. So it's all about there's getting ready for the St. Louis Fair that they're going to go to the St. Louis, you know, World's Fair or whatever.

So you think Michael Myers ends up there. And the big thing is, the big thing. Wait, it's a world's fair. Fair. Something like that, yeah. So Michael Myers builds a murder house. Okay. And tricks people who come to the World's Fair and he kills them.

Not usually known for his architecture skills, but that's an interesting wrinkle to the thing. It is an interesting. And the big thing at the World's Fair in this one is electric lights. So maybe the lights all go out at some point. You know, Michael Myers realizes how to turn off the electricity. But anyway, I would recommend it. Of all the movies on this list that we've been talking about today, I think it's probably

my favorite. So it's not just a lot of people know this movie for the song, have yourself a merry little Christmas. And they say, oh, that's a Christmas movie. It's a Halloween movie, everybody. A lot of the movie takes place at Halloween. Fight me about it. I don't care. Meet me in St. Louis. Anyway. Cash me in St. Louis. But, you know, I know you guys are thinking, there's a classic Halloween movie with a classic costume that we have not gotten to yet. Don't worry. We're just about to. I wouldn't put it off for long. So here it is. Juror number two. From last year, this is turn number two, directed by Clint Eastwood. And there's one scene that's set at Halloween where our main character and his wife are dressed as the American Gothic couple from Grant Wood's classic painting, American Gothic.

Although that's supposed to be a father-daughter I learned recently, not a couple. Well, Dan, I can't tell. All I can say is I'm not going to dig into that. I'm just dropping some art trivia, that's all. Well, take it up with Grant Wood and take it up with Clint Eastwood. Eastwood. Hey, wait a minute, Grant Wood, Clint Eastwood. Same guy. You blew this whole thing wide open.

So what do you think about this costume? Let's talk about it. Dan, why did you describe this costume for anyone who hasn't seen American Gothic? Yeah, I mean, it's a little obscured by trick-or-treaters in the forefront of the frame, but it's, you know, it's a couple from American Gothic. If you've seen American Gothic, there's a woman with like sort of a, what I kind of think of as like a Puritan collar. black dress and she's got her hair parted down the middle, slick down.

We've got Nicholas Holt over here as the man in the pair. He's got a pretty blousy ball cap on. And he has a pitchfork that looks like it's got like spider webs on it or something. I don't know what's going on there. I think he tried to hollowing up the idea of American. And also it's hard to see in this image, but I think he also is wearing overall. I think he also has, like, fake belly or something like that.

But, yeah, so how would you guys rate this costume? And you can rate it on scariness or you can rate it on authenticity to the original painting. I think this isn't very good. I think that, you know. Well, harsh. I don't know. It's just like it doesn't, it's not a super well-done representation of the painting. And I guess that's all I'm ranking it on.

And so I'm going to give it a two. Wow. Okay. Still gets a two, though. I'm going to give it a four because I think this is a really good representation of a couple's costume made by people who have a little bit enthusiasm about it, but they don't go all the way to really do a very good job. So I think it's a very believable couple's costumes. Realistic. And also, Nicholas Hull to this point, he is still grappling with the fact that he is on the jury for a trial for someone who is accused of a crime he seems to have committed. And so I don't think he has a lot of emotional energy for a more in-depth, you know, de-complicated costume than this one right now.

Hallie, what do you think? Well, maybe then I'll say this is sort of a meet-me-in-and-St. Louis situation. I think the woman's costume is way better than his because clearly it's the bald cap that's ruining his. Yeah. He should have shaved his head. It's hard.

It's hard not to notice this is a very bad bald cap. With a bald head. We've seen him recently with a bald head. It's true. Yeah, he looks good with a bald head, face all painted, silver teeth. You know, he could, he doesn't, he could shave his head. But you're right.

I think it's, I think the bald cap really is the real weakness of this costume. Yeah. So I'll give her a five and him a one. Wow. Someone's finally broken the two barrier. Amazing. Sorry, juror number two. You've got, I mean, again, getting a low score in the costume contest.

I'm like juror number one. Yeah. I thought you were to say this juror number two's costume is number two. So how do you bring Michael Myers into this movie? I don't know if you guys have seen it. It's a taught, almost Paul Schrader-esque examination of guilt and the need for repentance and what happens when you don't repent. I feel like... Michael Myers is also one of the jurors.

I think you're giving this movie way too much credit. But also, I would say, what if Michael Myers is on trial for the killing? Because why wouldn't you suspect Michael Myers? And this guy is sort of like feels a little less guilty because he's like, well, If Michael Myers goes to jail and said at me, that's probably all for the best. Yeah, yeah, he's like, maybe he might not have committed the crime I committed, but you know what? He's better. He's better off.

Yeah, it's a world is better off. It's a real Alcabond tax evasion thing where it's like maybe this isn't the crime you thought you'd get him for, but it's something. I like the idea of him being on the jury, too, so maybe it's a little bit of both. Maybe Michael Myers is, it's like a secret of my success type situation where he's pretending to be more than one person on trial and on the jury. Yeah, yeah. Clumps. It is a real the clumps. Put that quote on the juror number two box.

Stuart Williams says, A Real The Clumps. We've got one more movie before we're going to go to a break. So, guys, there's another movie that no joke this time is a real great kind of like Halloween scene movie. And I'm sure you've all seen it. And of course, that is E.T. from 1982. So many Halloween costumes.

So much stuff. Similarly, kind of the, this is pre. When kids were expected to go out and buy really good costumes. This is when kids are still throwing their own costumes together. So why don't each of you take a turn describing one of these costumes that we're seeing on screen? Halie, you want to go first? Pick whichever one you like. E.T. is dressed like a lady.

Maybe like a grandma. It's sort of a grandma vibe. Also wearing a – would you say that's a bowler hat? With the flower and blonde, luxurious wig. a string of pearls, a shawl, and sort of like a, a, a, a floral gown. Yeah. It looks kind of like a nightgown a little bit. There's some, there's elements of it that are kind of like, if he's, he couldn't decide

whether he's going to go as Carol Kane or Stevie Nix for Halloween. So they both kind of ended up in the same thing. Never mind. Yeah, E.T. Drag icon. Did you hear what I said? No, I didn't. Oh. He looks like our friend Delaney.

You know what? I could see this as a Delaney costume. Yeah. Yeah, this is a person we know. So if Delaney's listening, which he's not great E.T. costume every day. So, Stuart, why don't you take a costume? Which one do you want to take? Well, we got a little kid dressed up like a hobo with a bowler hat and a knife sticking in his head.

Got a 5 o'clock shadow. Is this a reference to something I'm not understanding? I don't think so. I think some of these costumes are supposed to be like, again, you're throwing stuff together. Later on in this movie, I should have put these ones up, too, that you see people just walking by. One of them is like a dog who's also a sailor. Like they're just throwing things together, you know. And Dan, why don't you describe, let me describe Elliot's mom's costume.

Yeah, so we got Dee Wallace being what she is, which is a sexy mom. She's got like a cheetah print cat suit on. She has a, you know, like kind of a Lone Ranger style. mask, her hair is up sort of in two, like two parts. Like there's like scrunchies or something. Like, yeah, almost like ears. It looks like she's got like a magic wand, like a fairy godmother magic wand. She doesn't really go with the rest of the thing.

But as we're saying, these are thrown together costumes. Yeah, no, it's a good look. And I'll describe Elliot. He's wearing a hooded sweatshirt and he's just painted his face like he's a zombie. It's kind of green with kind of like black circles around his eyes. I was like, is he supposed to be E.T? I couldn't figure that up. That would be very funny if he was like, I'll go as E.T.

So when people are chasing E.T. They'll get me. Yeah, and you go as me. And E.T. will go as this old lady. He will go as Delaney. Yeah, so how do you guys rate these costumes? And you can rate them as a group if you want, just to save some time, or you can write them individually if you want.

I mean, E.T. is clearly a 10. This is a great look for 10, the grocery board. It's fantastic, yeah. And, like, you know, D. Wallis, I think, is assess. just because I think she's cute. But, uh, and the hobbo kid, maybe a five and Elliot is like a one. No, no, I'll give Elliot more than that. There's something about a classic zombie face.

I love Elliot. He looks so cute. He does, no, I look hideous, but he looks very cute. But I think what, for his older brother, what does it for me is that he was like, I'll be a hobo, eh, with a knife through his head. And I feel like that takes it to a new conceptual level that he is a, he is a murdered hobo rather than just a hobo. You start putting a story together.

Like, what happened to this? gentleman. I feel like this is what every kid does is like for Halloween. They're like, I'll be a nurse, but a zombie nurse or like a stabbed nurse. Yeah. I think what I like about this movie is that as these kids obviously did their own costumes. And I think it's, is it Gertie who dresses up E.T. in this way? So like, she did a great job.

If it was her doing it. Yeah. And then they're like, no, we can't do that. And they put a, just put a sheet over E.T. Yeah. And that I don't like as much. Yeah. although to be fair

but the idea is that E.T. is supposed to be Gertie and he does not look like little Drew Barrymore in this costume at all. Like to put the sheet over him is the better move for the story. The thing about also D. Wells' costume is within the context of movie, she's not trick-or-treating, she's not going to a party, she's just at her house

handing up candy. And so it's really a lot to go, it's a big costume to put on just for that. So I got to give her credit for that. So I'm going to give all of them 10 out of 10. Wow. You know, also, but then the question, before we go to a break, and don't worry, there's fewer movies on the other side of the break than they were on the front room. Before we go to break, how do we make this on Michael Myers' Halloween movie?

You've got a telekinetic alien in here. You know, how does that play into it? Yeah, I feel like this has to be like, you know. But it is set in the suburbs. That's his natural hunting ground. That is true. But this has to be like more of the suburbs of Southern California, too, yeah. A versus scenario, you know, a Freddie versus Jason.

Yeah, yeah. Cowboys versus aliens. Michael Myers versus E.T. Yeah, no matter who wins we lose. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, tell me about it. So what happens with Michael Myers versus E.T? Play out the scenario a little bit.

Hallie? Well, I had a different idea. Okay, let's hear that one now. Classic yes and. What if this is what if this is Michael Myers' redemption story? And he comes in and kills all of the doctors and scientists who are holding E.T. and

Elliot captive. Yeah, they can't stop his ass. They had their fucking guns swapped out for walkie-talkies. Even Michael Myers can't resist the charms of E.T. The lovable alien. To be honest, I would love to see that movie where an alien comes down,

the scientists take him, and the kids are like, no, no, let him go. And then unbeknownst to them, a slasher is on the prowl. And he really complicates their alien kidnapping thing. What a fun, it reminds me of a a writer that some of us worked with Mr. Rich Blomquist, he said once

about reading a screenwriting book where the screenwriter said you have to have one unbelievable thing in your movie. You can have a vampire or you can have an alien, but you can't have an alien land on earth and then a vampire bites him and he was and Rich was like, that sounds like a great movie. Why wouldn't you do that? I want to see that movie. So I think, so Michael Meyer, so they're like make a

predator movie where the predator lands in fucking Transylvania and has to fight Dracula. That rocks. Wonderful. I would love that. That'd be so great. AV.P. Alien vampire predator. Yeah, let's do it, everybody. Come on, Hollywood. Hollywood, it's the end of the world.

Let's just do it. Let's throw these concepts together. Come on. Yeah, man, fuck it. At a business. Just do whatever. Let's do whatever, man. Do a silly one.

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I'm talking about the 2004 version, not the musical version. I have not seen it. I do not know if they have Halloween costumes in it. They probably do. It's pretty much the same movie. But anyway, this is the movie Mean Girls. As our resident Mean Girl, Dan, would you like to describe some of these costumes? Well, the any of them fetch.

The idea of this, of course, in the movie is that Katie, having come from being homeschooled in Africa, does not realize that among these. these girls, the point of Halloween is to dress up in sexy costumes. And so they are, you know, like various sexy animals, I guess. Like your cats and your, it looks like Regina's like a rabbit. It's a regular zootopia, just sexy animals just running around. But our heroine is dressed as a... Or Disney's Robin Hood.

As sort of a zombie bride with a big fake tea. Guys, this is, I hate to interrupt you, Dan. This is not part of it. Do you think Disney's Robin Hood and Zootopia are set in the same universe? Probably, yeah, yeah, you know, at least a few years later. Yeah, different eras, a few years later. Well, the Zoo Society, you know, advanced so quickly. Yeah, that's true, because animals are smarter than people.

What if it started? And they live shorter lives. That's true. You go to the generations much faster. So, Hallie, would you agree with that? Then Robin Hood must be, what, like 40, 50 years before Zootopia? Yeah. All right.

I was like, what are you guys talking about again? No, I mean, I remember Zootopia better than Robin Hood. Is that sad? Is it sad? Is it sad? I don't know what's sad anymore. I don't know. So much is sad.

It's hard to say. But are these mean girls costumes sad? Halie, as our other resident mean girl, how do you feel about these costumes? I feel, oh, you know what? No, go on that. Follow that tangent. Where's your mind taking you? Well, I was going to anticipate a movie.

Oh, but... It might show up later. Yeah, it might show up later. How can see my list, so don't talk about... No, yeah, I don't think... Okay, but whatever. I will say, these are... You know what?

I love Amanda Seafreed's costume because that's a dress that I would have worn in the 90s. That kind of baby doll dress? Yes, with the high ribbon. Very, very, like, kind of regency period to have that ribbon very high, not at the waist, but below the bust slightly.

Mm-hmm. What about the ears? Would you have worn those little, what are they like, Mouse ears? Yeah. No, I wouldn't have. Okay. I mean, these are like whatever.

I mean, if you didn't wear the ears, though, there's like no costume. I know. I just like the dress. Okay. So you give it a 10 because you like that dress. Yeah. Okay. I don't know.

I think that's, uh, I like Lindsay Lohan's costume. It's kind of funny. Which one is? I think that was her mom's wedding dress. Oh, she's the bride. Yeah. You didn't know who Lindsay Lohan is? I don't remember which one is which.

You're looking at them. You're literally looking at their pictures. She looks different. She's in costume with a wig and everything. It doesn't look like her. She's got fake teeth. Yeah. I don't know.

They're fine. They're fine. Okay. So, Stuart, what's your opinion? As our third resident mean girl, what do you think about these mean girl costumes? Yeah, I would say, Regina George's costume obviously is incredible.

Everything she does is perfect. She rules. Katie didn't quite get the brief. She didn't realize she was supposed to be a little bit sexy. That's not scary. Nobody wants a scary costume You're saying it's less sexy A woman with blood pouring out of her mouth

Is less sexy than say like a mouse or a cat or a bunny Yeah, I've never quite... I mean like I get that they're low cut and whatnot And there's like it's an excuse to wear a body suit But the sexiness of the animal side of it As always alluded me but... I have some very interesting artworks I would like to show you after the podcast, Daniel I'm aware that like other people have that

There's a certain tiger from Sutopia that I'd like to show you, Daniel Fine. If that's your thing, I'm not trying to say it's wrong. I'm just saying it's... Well, I mean, if you act on that with an animal, there is a wrongness of it. Yes, I don't think that's a danger. Once it leaves the realm of play acting, then yeah. So what did you say, Stuart? We got off on a...

Yeah, I don't remember. Regina George rules the rest aren't is great. Yeah, I mean, well, I'll agree with that. What about the man dressed as a soldier behind Lindsay Lohan? Oh, yeah. Just kind of a standard soldier. Wow. So the

Disrespect for our armed forces. Well, that's damn for you. No thank you for your service. So the the girls who are dressed in sexy outfits, like, look, I'm pro the idea of sexiness in general, but

these are sort of pro forma, like, sexy Halloween costumes. Then why don't you dress a little sexy? Yeah, Dan, just tart it up a little bit. Yeah, I know. And I can smile more, too. Dan, Lee and all the side out. I'm just like a smile, not smell more, right?

He smells enough. Whatever you want, baby. I just, it's just kind of standard. Like, those ones are, like, fine. So how would you make that, how would you make them more interesting, Dan, for you, personally? I'm just saying there's not a lot of, like, innovation here or interesting. You're saying Lacey, that's Lacey Chabair, right? Yes.

Yeah. She should have, like, a whip or something, so she's more like a cat woman. I didn't say that, no. And Katie, I don't know, like, it's a little more interesting, but it's also not like that different. So I'm going to give it a five. Okay, yeah. All right.

There you go. And how would you, I feel like this is one of the ones where it's the easiest. How do you make this a Halloween movie with Michael Myers? I feel like there's such a thin line between mean girls and a standard slasher movie in a lot of ways. It's the set, you see, you have the girl who's the outcast. You have the mean girls. The slasher kills the mean girls one by one, right? Oh, no.

I feel like Michael Myers. is a new student at the school. Oh, yeah. Or he would show up in a scary costume, which is not what he's supposed to. He's supposed to dress sexy. Yeah, but then Lindsay Lohan is like, I get you.

We both come from different worlds. And then they have the romantic story. Oh. Not Aaron Samuels? Or let me pitch you that Michael Myers becomes the most popular kid in school and everyone else wants to be a slasher to be like Michael Myers.

Because he does like a cool skateboard trick. Yeah, probably. Yeah. So he's just, everyone's just killing each other all the time in this school. Yeah, constantly. Yeah, he called slasher high. This would be fun. This is a fun movie.

Yeah, we did it. We did it. Okay, guys. So that's Mean Girls coming up next. We've got another movie that's also about a teen who can't quite fit in. That's right. It's Donnie Darko from 2001. Now, I'm curious what you guys will think about this costume because it's a little reminiscent of something we've seen before.

Stuart, can you describe this costume? So you have Jake Gyllenhall. He is wearing a body. And that's not part of the costume. That's the actor. He's not dressed as Jill and all. Yeah. The main character, Donnie Darko, is wearing a, like,

it looks like a black body suit with a print of a skeleton to make it look like you're just seeing straight through his flesh to just the bones. And on top of that, he is wearing a gray hoodie. Yeah. So it's a little bit of a mashup of the Karate Kid and E.T. costumes in a way. Kind of, yeah. Yeah.

So do you guys give this more points for? being a clever combination or do you takeoff points for it's clearly a reference to the fact that Drew Barrymore is in this movie and in E.T. Yeah. But how does the karate kid aspect? E.T. Because he's wearing a hoodie?

That's what Elliot said. That's what I said. The trademark hoodie from E.T. There's 20 Elliot's in this conversation. I'm getting very confused. That's fair. And I also here's my special guest. Elliot Gould, come on in. No, I give this a one because like this is, this is a lazy man's costume.

He's just like, I'll, you know, I'll put on this, like, thing that has a skeleton on it, and then I'm not going to do any makeup for my face at all, and I'm going to put a hoodie on. Yeah, and you see he's still wearing a watch.

Like, he really, what skeleton is wearing a watch? Steeldons don't care about what time it is. They're dead. It would fall right off. Yeah, thank you. You can't make it tight enough. Yeah.

I mean, I agree with you. I feel like this is a lazy costume. Again, Donnie has some things going on in his life emotionally at this time. Not juror number two type emotional stuff. I mean, he's not in a jury for a crime that he committed. Yeah, but he's supposed to, like, he should have been dead. Like, that's, I feel like that's a pretty high level.

You'd think it would inspire him to have a better Halloween costume, though. Yeah. So, how do you include Michael Myers? You got another day. You got a new lease on life. Throw that joy into the Halloween costume. Live every day like it's your last end of that day is Halloween. Come on.

I know how to do this one. So Donnie's watching, and he's at the movie theater watching one of his favorite, movies, one of the Halloweens, and then Michael Myers just, like, climbs through the screen showing the true magic of cinema before he starts butchering the town. I guess there's a scene where Donnie goes to the movies, but otherwise it doesn't seem to be, like, linked to the... But doesn't he, like, imagine something happens with the screen or something? No, well, I mean, like, there's a tube that comes out of Donnie's, like, chest that sort of is, like, a time, like, you can see, like, the past. paths of time. It's not really...

It's not like a Purple Role's in Cairo situation. Yeah, the time tube comes out. Michael Myers pops out of it. He's slashing around and then it's a fight between Michael Myers and that bunny from that mean bunny from doggy doggy doggy dog. Frank, yeah. Frank, yeah. Frank, the original bad bunny. I guess Harvey would be the original. Actually, Peter Rabbit would be the original bad bunny, right?

You know, he's stealing from the Gregor's farm and stuff like that. Nottie. Went to bed without his dinner. And Peter Rabbit did do a half-time show at the Super Bowl. Yeah, somebody emailed Benito and tell him to change his non-digger. So I think we can, I think we get, but how does it end? Who would win at the end? Does Michael Myers just kill everybody?

I mean, Donnie Darko's going to die eventually at the end of the movie. Spoiler alert. They're like a plane falls on him or something, right? A plane falls on Michael Myers? Yeah, on both of them. It's a real anti-climax of an indie. It's a real hell in the Pacific. an ending, yeah.

Okay, guys, the next movie, this is a director we've already seen on the list, a director who is known for telling tales with intensity, thrills, adventure, a maister of modern horror. That's right, we got another Clint Eastwood movie on here. It's a perfect world from 1993. This is a kind of small-scale crime drama

starring Kevin Costner and a little kid. And, Hallie, can you describe this little kid's costume? Well, he appears to be dressed as Casper. Uh-huh. He's wearing a plastic Casper mask. But then he's wearing a white sweatshirt with just a picture of Casper on it. So there are two Casper faces in this costume, which is a little confusing. Yeah, and neither of them is Casper Van Dien, which is even more confusing.

Yeah. But this is what I like about old costumes where it's like, you know, they weren't confident. They couldn't make the costume look enough like the thing it was. So they would also just put a picture of what it was on the shirt that the person wore, which is just a classic halal. move, I think. Elliot's wandered away and he's kind of driving this. Sorry, I just realized that when my son had come in earlier, he had left the door open.

Yeah, you were worried that he might come in and see this spooky ghost on the screen. He gets scared. He's so frightened. And get an idea of a Halloween costume. Now, this is clearly a store-bought costume. I think we can all see that. Yeah, it's a big... Or possibly stolen.

It's a big... Yeah, you never know. It's a stolen costume. That's true. But it's not a homemade costume. And it's a big plot point in this movie. Have you guys ever seen a perfect world? Yeah, he doesn't have a 3D printer printing out vacuum form masks.

No. Have you guys ever seen a perfect world? Yeah, I saw it back in the day. Okay, so you know, it's a good movie. And you know that part of the plot is that this kid is that his family is Jehovah's Witness, so his mom will not let him celebrate Halloween. So it's not till he is taken hostage by a man on the run from jail that he's able to finally dress up his cast for The Friendly Ghost.

What do you guys think about? Yeah, but what do you guys think about this costume in terms of scores? What scores do you can give it? Not in terms of scores, the strip club. Right, but in terms of scoring that costume. Oh, okay, well, it's going to take me a couple minutes. I mean, it's store-bought, it's not that fancy. So, like, you know, on the usual scale, it would get low marks.

But I have such nostalgia for this type of old crappy costume that I think I'm, I can't go any lower than a six. Wow. It sucks. I give it a two. And store, what do you say? I'm going to say it's a six. seven for me, because it looks just like Casper.

I mean, Casper does have a picture of himself on his chest. And hair. And hair peeking out. The back of Casper's head is just a regular kid's head with hair. And Casper's eyes, where the pupils are, you do see other eyes behind them. You know, he's got double eyes. Uh-huh. Like a doll's eyes, yeah.

Yeah, this is the kind of costume where if it was a modern day, you'd be like, oh, they went out and got a vintage costume, but it's set in the 60s. So this is at the time a current costume. And I don't know if that makes me like it more or less if he's the kind of kid who's just wearing whatever costume he buys in the store or if he's a Rushmore type kid who's going out of his way to get a vintage costume. So I think we've had a wide range of feelings about this and I think they're all valid. How do we make this a Halloween Michael Myers movie? They're on the run, on the road. Do they run into Michael Myers somewhere?

What if instead of a, what if instead of the kid he takes Michael Myers? Well, like little Michael Myers Who also wore like a stupid Oh, that's true He was wearing that William Shatner And maybe this explains why How it got painted white like that

At some point He's a clown at the beginning of the movie right Like that's what he's wearing at the Is that why he's like that? Yeah, real funny killing people Dan What? Maybe that's your idea of hilarity Dan Oh, the costume is a clown doesn't look at it

It's like that famous The doctor I'm Michael Myers The famous comedy Halloween in which Funny Man Michael Myers kills all these people what if they're uh what if they're yeah i like that idea that or what if michael meyers is the one who takes the kid hostage and he's got to learn how to be a slasher and that's how we like uh like lone wolf and cub yeah exactly yeah it's like lone wolf and cup what if michael myers is just a jehovah

witness uh and he's just like sort of an extra in this movie oh okay he just chose up in the background yeah it would be funny if they're like they're like we're on the run we got we're we're on we're following this this crook on the run And they're like, we got a newsflash. There's also a guy murdering people at this suburb in California. Let them deal with it. We've got our own problem. And occasionally he's in the background just like watching them.

Yeah, it's more of a where's Waldo than a Halloween movie. All right. There's just one movie left on the list. This is another movie that is by a modern day master of scares, someone who brings such tension, such discomfort to the movies that they make. That's right. It is affliction. directed by Paul Schrader from 1997. I remember a recent...

Heartbeeps. I remember a recent mini where you said, Dan, you can't just keep doing the same joke where you pretend that this is a small indie movie and it's a huge movie. Oh, that's right. I'm being a hypocrite. Well, what can I tell you?

I've changed. Now I see it from the other side of the mirror. And Dan, I'm willing to admit, I'm the big enough man to say I was wrong. You were wrong at the time. But now that I feel this way, you were right. And I'm right now. Thanks.

When the facts change, change. I change with them. You were wrong back then, but now obviously things have changed. And now you're right. Makes sense. Yeah. So affliction, a story of violence in between generations. It starts at Halloween. There really isn't a scene with Nick Nolte wearing a Halloween costume. But as you can see in this picture, he does have a kind of costume. Halie, can you describe what he's wearing here? He's wearing an orange vest that says school. I'm assuming it's a crossing guard sort of vest and over his

heavy winter coat along with orange gloves. Yep, that's it. So he's dressed as a crossing guard. I mean, it's not so much a costume because he is acting as a crossing guard in the scene. But I think it's good enough.

It's a movie that starts at Halloween, you know? So guys, how would you judge this costume? And I want you to judge it in two ways. But what, Dan, do you say, and I'll tell you there's two ways I'll judge it. He's dressed as a crossing guard, but it's not the movie,

the crossing guard so it's too confusing for me and I just can't I would have to give it a zero for that but go on and say what the all right well I was going to say uh judge it as a costume and also judge it as a Nick Nolty costume how is it as a Nick Nolty costume yeah yeah no question I would say the biggest problem with this is that if this is a Halloween costume he has no bag to carry all the candy he's going to receive so he gets a zero for me wow this is a new new I just made up and not applied to any of my past scores. So retroactively, you're not adding that to everyone because none of the others had bags with them, I think, yeah.

No, for some reason, the lack of bag is terminal to this cost. Yeah. I will say I would give it a 10. You know exactly what he is. As soon as you see him, he disappears into the role of crossing guard. Excellent. And I would say, I would agree with Halley, because I would say also it's, you know exactly what he is, but also you would say, oh, crossing guard's not that scary.

If Nick Nolte was your crossing guard, you would be frightened. You would be terrible. Don't move, don't move. The cars are coming. It would be really scary, yeah. Yeah. So I think I'm going to,

what I love is that we've had such a range of responses for each of these costumes. Some of these costumes have big fans and some have big detractors, sometimes the same costumes. And you guys have really made your feelings felt and heard about. That's what art's all about, Elliot. Exactly.

Yeah, it's all in the eye of the beholder. Do you think AI could do this? I don't think so. Couldn't do this, and it wouldn't want to do this. Yeah, why? What would be the possible reason? So, finally, Affliction, how do we make this into a Michael Myers' Halloween movie? Michael Myers has to cross the street.

It's kind of like Frogger, but with Michael Myers. It's called Slasher. Yeah, yeah. I think that's, yeah, the kids are the other side of the street. Michael Myers is there, he goes, I'm going to get across. I don't know when it's going to be safe to cross. That's when a heroic crossing guard costume wear. error.

He goes, I'm not a real crossing guard, but I guess I'll step in and take the role. And he's both the hero of the moment. He's also. He's got me, then who? I got to see the, I got to be the change I want to see in the world better to light a candle than curse the darkness. So how else Michael Myers get across? Michael Myers kills those children.

How does Nicknopee feel about it? I've got to imagine, probably, probably torn because it's like, it didn't want those kids dead, but the other hand, he did a great job of helping Michael Myers cross the street. Well, it's a Paul Schrader movie, so, yeah, the tragedy fits. Probably he can't drink or something. Can't live with himself at that point. Yeah, and then he falls in love with a robot, as in Paul Schrader's masterpiece. And Prince of Tides is all just a memory of this.

Now, wait, so what would it be, yeah, if every Nick Nolte movie was the same character? So, like, then Prince of Tides comes before or after this one? That guy's having some mood swings. I mean, I feel like every Nick Nolte is just Nick Nolte. Yeah, that's fair. It's all the same guy. Yeah. Well, I'm glad we could enjoy our Halloween,

our Halloween post-Hallowing discussion and celebration. To wrap things up, just to remind you, karate kid, surprisingly high marks for the shower, to kill a mockingbird, surprisingly mixed results for the ham. Meet Me in St. Louis, not a big fan, mostly of the girls' costumes. Juror number two, a costume that was pretty roundly criticized.

E.T. mixed. Mean girls, mixed. Donnie Darko. unimpressed, perfect world, unsure, and affliction, probably the highest to lowest swing that we've had. Zero on one side, ten on the other. Wow, it just doesn't get more exciting in this. I want to thank Dan and Seward and Halley for being with me

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