The Flop House - FH Mini 144 - Billion Dollar Babies

Episode Date: January 24, 2026

Dan quizzes his brothers in flop on the "cultural impact" of various films that made more than a billion bucks at the box office!Tickets for Flop TV Season 3 are ON SALE! Also, we’ll be back at San Francisco Sketchfest TOMORROW (from the day of this mini's release) January 25! Get tickets! We’ll be discussing legendary flop THE MASTER OF DISGUISE!Subscribe to our NEWSLETTER, “Flop Secrets! It’s the best way to keep up on all things Flop House and get a little extra fun in your inbox to boot!

Hey, everyone, welcome to the flop house. I'm Dan McCoy. I'm Stuart Wellington. I'm Elliot Kalen. And, you know, half the time on the flop house? Flok house. That's the bird version of the flop house. It's a bird-based podcast, yeah.

Yeah, it's the good feathers of the flop. A star. I'm a pelican? Dan McCaw. Oh, yeah, that's great. Don't do me. I love pelicans. Oh, boy, you're harder.

Elliot. Elliot Penguin. Elliot Crowland. Penguins pretty good, though. Elliot Crowland. Well, we're off to an on-point start. Usually on the flop house, of course. Is this not about...

I mean, this is a flop-house mini, and Dan's running it. So, Stuart and I don't know, maybe it is about birds today. I don't know. Half the time we talk about bad movies, or at least movies that have been rejected by society in some way. We cradle them, nurse them back to health. We either crush their windpipes so that they can't bedevil the world or we nurse them back to health. They can fly off into the wilderness. This is still about birds.

Are you sure this is not about birds, Dan? But the other half of the time, we do these increasingly poorly named minis where we talk about something else. And in this case, I'm going to discuss something related to... Eldon Ring? Some of the biggest movies in the world. The Eldon Ring movies. The Avatar films. Oh.

Dan, I still have known. not seen any of the Avatar movies. Is that going to be a problem for me in this many? No, no, no. No, it's not, it's a way in for something else. Just so people are aware, it's not because I have anything against those movies. I've loved many of James Cameron's films. It's only that every time I tried to see the first Avatar in the theaters when it first came out, someone in my family would either have a heart attack or die.

And I said, you know what? I don't need to see the movie that badly. The movie is something in the universe did not want me to see that movie. You're the monkey in this case. I'm the monkey, you're the monkey, Dan. Okay. I don't know, I feel like Avatar would have helped you come to grips with your losses. Maybe it's true.

Yeah, you know, you could plug into the Tree of Life. Yeah, think about how your family members are being joining the World Tree of Life or whatever. Is Tree of Life one of the Avatar movies? I've seen that. Yeah, that's right. What did they call it, home tree or something? I don't know. Anyway, I recently saw the most recent Avatar picture.

I was the one person in the theater At a It was the first screening in the day Must it fucking felt weird All painted up in blue shit When you went there It's a show of your fandom It was in between

Christmas and New Year's And I'm like When am I going to find the time For like this three and a half hour movie I know that Elliot thinks A notoriously busy man Dan McCoy Nothing but time

But I do try And actually work during the weeks And But I was like, well, this is... Stewart made a lewd gesture that I laughed at. Yeah, okay. It's not like I...

I would love to also have a writing job on top of the podcast. We don't need to litigate your endless hours of time. We don't need to litigate the oceans of time that you crossed to be with us today. And I feel like love is fairly hyperbolic in this case. No, I am desperately desirous of a second outlet. I am not resting on my laurels. I don't need to defend myself to you, but I will. You don't need to defend yourself.

I don't know. I only will because you attack me. The response to an attack is defense. Anyway, but no, during the holiday season, I'm like, okay, let me fit this in. But I was like, the only time I can fit this in, in fact, is by going to the first screening of the day. And so thus I was sitting alone in the theater. My 3D glasses on watching Avatar, Fire and Ash. Were you front row?

No, I appropriately placed myself to enjoy the 3D. Because like if you're going to see one of these movies, you want to see it in the theater. You want to see it with a fancy 3D. I think it's perfectly reasonable that you have not seen these movies. Because like as I'm, as far as I'm concerned, home viewing, not really a lot of point to these pictures. Are they doing a screening at the Las Vegas sphere? That would be pretty cool, right? I don't think so.

I don't think that would be cool. Dan, get touch with your contacts at the sphere. Okay, I'll do that. Because you said you've been reaching out to see if we could do a flop-out show there. Just our towering faces surround you at 360. If anyone has a contact at the sphere, let us know, because we'd love to do a show there. We seem like it's the best location. for us, the best setting.

Yeah, that's where comedy works best is in a giant cavernous space. Anyway, so the line on these avatar movies, the sort of, to my mind, boring and not totally correct line is like, oh, they have no cultural impact. The avatar movies have made billions of dollars, but they have no cultural impact. And recently, I've seen on social media the tide turning and people, people, being like, shut up. Like,

this is the most boring non-take this side of diehard being a Christmas movie. Hey, guys, did you know that? Yeah. I was familiar with the idea.

And I saw someone point out that like perhaps the actual thing is that some big movies or franchises have an outsize cultural impact. things like Star Wars where we just recorded our previous episode and listing

minor characters is not a particularly weird thing to do it's a thing that a large subset of the population can do Not even minor characters characters that are set dressing with names effectively, yeah. There are these franchises that have huge cultural impact of course.

Star Wars, Harry Potter, the MCD, you like and I think that that kind of skews the tables on what our idea of these things are because like there are these big movies out there that like people see and they don't necessarily talk about it's not just it's not just avatar so I'm going to test the cultural impact of a few other movies that have made more than a billion dollars each in a segment I call billion dollar babies sponsored by ultra-premian Prime Select Superior Pamper's brand diapers When your baby is worth a billion dollars

You don't want to just pamper them You want to ultra-premium Prime Select Superior pamper them There we go I sort of said it Okay So this movie That was the fifth take he did

Of that everything God damn you The first couple He would just throw in a bunch of slurs And we're like, damn Yeah, like maybe edit that out. He never did that. We're just joking.

And I'll be honest, guys. Feel free to riff a bit about various things because otherwise this might be just short if you just answer questions. That's not really what we do. Stuart and I are very to the point. Listen calmly. Just note in all business, you know. You know what? I don't even have a mullet because it's not business up front party in the back.

It's just business all over. You know, the business in the back is as important as the business in the front, to be honest. I feel like, I feel like you look pretty cool with a mullet, though. Maybe with like a little dangly earring too. Oh, yeah, probably. What would that, what would be dangling? Uh, I don't know, like a skull. Like a muzzer or something.

Oh, yeah. Yeah, it does say in the Torah, inscribe this word, inscribe the God's word on the doorposts of your ear. Yeah. The doorpost of your face. Yeah. So this, uh, movie made a billion. 25 million plus.

What films supporting cast includes Crispin Glover, Matt Lucas, Michael Sheen, Stephen Fry, Alan Rickman, Timothy Spall, Amelda Staunton, Christopher Lee,

and Lucy Davenport as Woman with Big Ears. This is a billion-dollar baby as I have branded this. Is this part of a franchise or not part of a franchise? Yeah, there's more than one of these. It's more than one of these. Yeah.

It's from 2010. So it's not Argyle. It's not love action. I mean, Argyll is part of the, what is it, the Kingsman world. That's right. It is part of the Kingsman world. Wait, it is? Yeah, that was the whole point of that last scene.

Yeah, because when he makes two more Argyle movies, he'll make the movie where it cross. crosses over with the Kingsman. Okay, so this is from 2010. It made over a billion dollars. Oh, I was thinking of Mordecai. I also was thinking of Mordecai, to be honest.

I don't have to do you not think about Mordecai. Come on, that mustache. He has a mustache. Nothing's funnier than that than the presence of a mustache on a human face. Why would you do that to yourself, to your lip? Look, if there's any... Your own lip?

In our previous episode, we talked about Marsaldi shop. He understood. You'd put a mustache where it's not supposed to go. In his case, the Mona Lisa. Instant clarity. So let's see. Who was in it? Stephen Frye, Maldus Staunton.

Bobby Conavale, you mentioned. Crispin Glover. Matt Lucas, Michael Sheen. Alan Rickman. So, guys, here's something I'm just going to tell you right about that. Let's, don't get the Crispin Glover, Krisper. Things become surprisingly soggy. It just doesn't get them hot enough.

Yeah. So is it Underworld? It's not Underworld. Smigel Sheen's an underworld. I'm going to tell you guys. Wait, wait, wait, wait. Is it made a billion dollars? Is it Frost Nixon?

Yep. Oh, maybe it's animated. Is it animated? It's not animated. Although, I mean, it's kind of animated. Here's what it is. Looney Tunes back in action? What movie is kind of animated?

Space Jam? It's Allison Wonderland. It's Allison Wonderland. Oh, Alice in Wonderland. Who's Crispin Glover in that? Fucked if I know. I didn't watch that shit. But a lot of people did.

Made over a billion dollars. They made a sequel to it. Is this the... This is the Tim Burton late period. You know, like I'm only doing ugly CGI. Yeah. So, uh, there you go. This is where, uh, Helena Bonap carter is in it.

Yeah, I, I have to admit, I deliberately did not mention, you know... Johnny Tapp. Johnny Tapp. Mia Vasikowska. The only part of that movie that I've seen. scene is the scene of Johnny Depp's madhatter doing a break dance at the end. Yeah. And you're like, I love this.

Just as Lewis Carroll intended. You threw your hat down and said, this is cinema. If the Lumier brothers would hear, they would kiss you for finally bringing their invention to fruition. Yeah, yeah. Well, yeah, I found a reel of that on Instagram. I keep sending it to Martin Scorsese and he never responds. You know, this one, I think maybe you guys might actually get this one. Okay.

Perhaps you'll be able to get this is a billion, 66 million, and more. It's from 2006. I guess anything less than $66 million is not worth getting out of bed for Dan McCoy. And this, well, I just don't want to read all of the numbers. In this picture... Those numbers work hard, Dan. They deserve recognition. In this picture,

Stellan Scarsguard debuted... Dead Man Chess. debuted his... Character, Bootstrap Bill. Dead Man Chess. Yes. Dead Man's chest.

Pirates of the Caribbean. Dead Man's chest. No, no, that was it. He played the indelible character, of course. We all remember Bootstrap Bill. I mean, you know the story there that the rest of the crew was all like CGI.

So they're all in like green screen mocap suits. But he was like, I'm not going to do this movie if I'm not doing practical effects. So he would have to get up super early and he would be in like a full fucking makeup and everybody else is just in like green screen suits for those scenes.

I didn't see that one. I've only seen the first, maybe first two parts of the Caribbean movie. It's the second one. Oh, then I've only seen the first one. But which character is boots, is he the one with the tentacle face or is that a different one? No, he's got.

That's the third one, so you've seen three of them. No, I've only seen images. I've actually seen that one. Davy Jones is the tentacle phase. Oh, he is from the monkeys. Yeah. It's, he has like barnacles and shit grown out of his head. Oh, okay.

But he's part of that crew of like fishmen guys. Maybe I'll watch that. That first one, I've been meaning to show to my kids because that's a fun movie, but I haven't seen it a long time. I mean, the second one, you know, it's not. arguably quite as good, but it is, I mean, I still feel like it's the high watermark, yes, pun intended, of digital effects other than like an avatar movie. I see.

Like, the effects of Davy Jones are insane. I mean, have you seen that Daddy's song scene from the head where Davy Jones is wearing, it's flashing back and forth between him and the white outfit and him and the black outfit? That's amazing effects. Yeah, that flicker they get out of it. Like, can you just mute, Elliot? It's kind of hard to do the show. We have to just sort of guess what he was saying.

Yeah, I guess so. I mean, if you mentioned Davy Jones, I'm going to be talking about the monkeys. Yeah. That's true. It's going to happen. Okay, this movie. That one where they chain him to a radiator,

so we won't chase after girls anymore, and he still rips it out of the wall. He's so fucking horned up. This movie. Remember that one? That's crazy. That was the Pirates of the Caribbean movie? Uh-huh.

Ah! Meow! Somehow I didn't cut and paste the year. It's recent. It's very recent. It's Dan, blame it on the research team. Yeah.

Yeah, a billion, almost a billion 60 million. It gave the world the iconic... Not one billion and 60 dollars. No. Okay. This gave the world the iconic songs Beyond my wish for you

and what could be better than this. We all remember these songs that Wicked? Took us all by storm. I assume I'm wrong. No, it's not wicked.

It's not Wicked. It's not Wootopia, right? No, it's not Zootopia. Yeah. Or Zootopia 2 because that's the turn this stands into a zoo, zoo, ooh, is this an animated movie?

It is an animated picture. Yes. That's the only thing that, I mean, almost only thing that has multiple songs these days. Wicked? Yeah, that's when I said that. It's basically animated.

Wicked Warrick, the EWalk, who's really into Broadway. Okay, you won me back. Yeah. This is, of course. Wait, tell you have any other clues? Yeah. No. All right, thanks.

All right. Okay, then tell us what it is. I mean, I can give you a clue that would give it away if you want to. Sure. Give it a clue. Give it away. Give it away, give it away now. Yeah.

This was intended not for theatrical originally, but then was released. This is Moana 2. Made more than a billion dollars. Originally intended to be a television show. Yeah. How is it? How is it? No, I heard it was terrible.

It's not very good. It's fine. It's not horrible, but it's not great. Is Jemaine Clement's giant crab dude in this one? No, I don't think so. But he was in the first one, right? I mean, I have to admit, I am not particularly. fond of the original Moana so when I heard that the second one was not very good.

But you can't wait for that live action one. Yeah. But Moana, too, the thing that's so frustrating about it is that it is very episodic. It was clearly not really meant to be a movie, but also it ends on a cliffhanger and you're like, uh-oh, now the bad guy's going to come in in that whatever, Juana three. And I remember watching me like, come on, Moana, what are you doing? Like, don't do this. Come on.

No one cares. But I chose, I chose songs for this because, you know, like the, the, you know, like, the thing in the first movie that I did enjoy was the music. Yeah. That's that crab song and how far I'll go. Yeah. Great songs. You're welcome.

That's a real fun song. Maui's song in Moana 2. They're trying for the joy of you're welcome and it's not, doesn't do it. It doesn't get there, you know. Yeah. Okay. Well, this picture is part of a big franchise, big franchise. All right.

2011. It made a, One billion, one, two, three million. I would say on this, I would say on this, Stan, it is unfair to include Moana in one of these huge movies that didn't have a cultural imprint because it's a sequel to a movie that did have a big cultural footprint. No, I know. That's true. But I am also indicating that, like, there are movies that, like, have, like, that make huge amounts of money sort of drafting on fumes. And then no one talks about the rest of it, you know.

Wait, is this one, Hobbs and Shaw? Yeah. Oh, that would have been a great one to put in. I don't think it made more of it than a billion. Is this runaway starring Tom Selleck? No, I haven't even given you a clue yet. Is it Mr. Baseball starring Tom Selleck? Other than 2011.

Quigley Down Under starring Tom Selleck. No, I think you'll like this clue. Three Men and a Baby starring, of course, Tom Selleck? I think this clue will be enjoyable to you. The Balls in your course, Stuart. Name another Tom Selleck movie. Friends. I haven't been paying attention.

Did you mention? runaway? The first one, Dan. I'm trying to get to the next thing. Sometimes I've zoned you out when you're just filibustering. Like a true improv partner. It's just so focused on what he wants to do.

In this hit picture, Alan Tudik plays Dutch. Is it Dutch starring Ed O'Neill as Dutch? Ken Jong plays Jerry Wang. Buzz Aldrin plays Buzz Aldrin. And Bill O'Reilly plays Bill O'Reilly plays Bill O'Reilly. Riley. And while you think about that, I'll think about other Tom Seltz movies that you may or may not have already mentioned.

And don't say three men and a little lady. Well, he's in and out. Wait, who was, uh, who is Ken Jones character? Not really Tom Selt's movie, but he's in it. Is this a, is this is not a hangover? Okay. I've never seen any of those either. I mean, it makes you feel like you have a hangover.

Um, but it's not a hangover. Wait, who's the first actor you mentioned? Because it's a, it's a, it's a rack. It's a racket-filled Alan Tudick. So it's a tennis movie. Challengers? Yeah. Wait, why did that make you think it was a tennis movie?

You said it was racket-filled, and I figured that was it. I get you. I get you. Wimbledon? No, no. Yeah, Wimbledon. Famous billion-dollar picture, Wimbledon. A movie that I've seen a surprising number of times. I kind of like that movie.

Okay. Okay. All right. We can do this. Yeah. It's not a tennis movie. Part of a long run. The fucking snowman over here gave us all the clues.

We can figure this out. Part of a long running series. That I would argue also has very little cultural impact of the way that, pardon me, gatekeepers of cultural impact seems to define it even though there are people who care about this thing. Is it one of the scary movie movies? No. Is it in that world? Our world? Yeah.

Okay, good. It's not from Earth 2. Is this movie animated? Only in the sense that all big blockbusters are so filled with CGI that they may as well be. Right. Okay. And Bill O'Reilly, isn't it? So there must be like a news scene where like someone's commenting on what's happening in the movie.

I think Buzz Aldrin is your best clue here. Space Cowboys? No. I don't think he's in that. Where did Buzz Aldrin go? Transformers Dark of the Moon. That's right. It's Transformers Dark of the Moon. Oh. I didn't know there was a Transformers where they went to the moon.

Didn't we even, didn't we do that? No, we did Transformers. We did them with dinosaurs in it, didn't we? Let me, let's see. Which Transformers? I'm going to Google Flop House. I thought we did Transformers Age of Extinction, but I could be wrong about that. The one with Cogman in it? More than one.

I think you guys did. The one with the Knights in it, but maybe I wasn't there for that. We did Age of Extinction. We did one with Matt Singer for a live thing. Okay. I think we just did Age of Extinction. Where I mainly spent the whole show messing around with his Jim Cotta soaredy on stage. So, oh, that's right.

I missed that show. So is Transformers Dark Side of the Moon or Dark of the Moon? Dark of the Moon. Dark of the Moon. Dark of the Moon. Yeah, a huge series that I think people don't really discuss. Does Bill O'Reilly play one of the Transformers nerds? Hey, Bing has this is halfway through the episode.

Wow, way to shut down Stu's bit that he was about to get into. I think Bill O'Reilly is a Decepticon. Oh, sure, sure. No, I like that. Juice in there. I like that. Squeeze it a little bit. No, I can squeeze it.

You want to squeeze Bill O'Reilly? No, it's fine. I'd rather not squeeze Bill O'Reilly. That's what he got trouble for. Yeah. So, guys, we have a couple of Flop House Prox. to talk about. This episode is coming out the day before our appearance at Sketchfest in San Francisco.

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But no. No, you would be wrong. We're as shocked as you are that we have not fallen into some sort of horrific scandal or just turned into a big crypto thing? Yeah, we don't even really know how crypto works. The only NFTs I'm into are naughty, funny things, which is what we talk about on My Brother and My Brother and Me. We serve it up every Monday for you if you're listening.

And if not, we just leave it out back and goes rotten. So check it out on Maximum Fun or wherever you get your podcast. Here's another picture. Okay. It made a million. Oh, sorry. This is a photograph of the place where we used to laugh. Is that what you're saying?

That kind of picture? A billion. 152 million. It's from 2018. Imagine if you were the guy who made that movie and you ended up with a billion dollars in your pocket. Yeah, that's how it works. Unlike the movie Three Kings, this movie has three kings in it. Their names are Orm, Atland, and Narius.

So it's not a Jesus movie. Name that movie. What year? 2018. Now, it's not a Hobbit movie because Stuart would have jumped in right off the bat. Yeah. Orm, Neerius, and... Atlan.

Atlan? Is it that Aquaman sequel? Oh, the first Aquaman. Oh, the first Aquaman. Yeah. Everyone calls their favorite characters by name from Aquaman. You can't. You can't.

I'm comparing it to Star Wars. Yeah, that's true. That's true. Because Aquaman certainly had one cultural impact, which is that Jason Momoa became like a funny guy in movies. Yeah. A bro. A bro. A funny muscle bro.

I don't know if you have his performance in a Minecraft movie without Aquaman. And I'll remind everyone what my younger son said a couple years ago when I was driving around after we saw the trailer for Fast X before the Super Mario Brothers movie, in the car one day he just goes we saw the trailer for that movie where there's the guy with the beard and the sunglasses and he was driving a motorcycle who was that and I said oh that's that's Jason Mamoa and he just went

he's cool he is cool I uh look I'll be honest I don't think there's nothing to the idea that like considering how much money it has made like billions and billions and billions

Like it's like the Avatar movies are like way up there in the like top earners of all time like I think there's nothing to the idea of like yeah it seems weird that there's not more cultural impact for it. I'm just exploring the idea that like yeah sure but you know like we don't obsess over everything you know even if people go out and see things and like I feel like it's weird that this is the one where it's become a meme you know. Well, I think that's true. I also think it is weird for maybe it's a misunderstanding of how cultural, how culture works. The idea that if something is hugely successful, then of course that should also be the thing that takes over human imagination. And I think that's, that idea has been skewed by things like the Star Wars movies. Because if you look at the history of culture, it's often not the thing that is the most popular and the most profitable. That is the thing that has the most impact.

Like, it's the old story that old people talk about when they want to sound cool, I guess, about, like, the sex pistols or the Velvet Underground, like, where it's like, not a lot of people saw that for a show about that first album, but they all went out and started bands. You know, like, in reality, it is often not the thing that is a huge, widespread audience-pleasing phenomenon for a short amount of time that is a huge cultural impact. And it's other than, like, Star Wars and the Beatles, I think they've skewed the scales a little bit to a certain extent. on that kind of thing. But anyway. Let's get back to my silly game. Because I will say this, in terms of like the Marvel movies are huge,

but there's a cultural impact other than like people know those characters and wear T-shirts with them. It's not like it has, which they never did before. Which, I mean, the coolest people did before. But it hasn't wormed its way into people's imaginations in some ways,

the way that Star Wars did where they were like, oh, this speaks to me, you know. Well, it wasn't like one of the biggest movies in the country, like a deep, like the, like a demon slayer movie, like not K-pop demon hunters, but that other one,

yeah, that animated movie was like huge. And I'm like, I don't even, no, it's not chainsaw man, that's different. And well, or the fact that you look at. That's Denji, the chainsaw man. Oh, yeah, I don't know. He's paired with the chainsaw demon. The opposite side of Star Wars is Star Trek, right?

And I would argue that Star Trek arguably has a greater cultural impact than Star Wars besides never being quite as successful. And this is a show that, was originally canceled, and then, you know, the viewers demanded it come back for a little bit, and it was rebooted many many times because it got its hooks so deep

into the minds of certain people. And so I would, I think, Dan, I love what you're doing. I think this is a really fun game. But when people say, like, Ariton made a lot of money, but nobody talks about it. I would say, like,

that's maybe the way it should be. I mean, TV shows, I think, is an interesting thing, too, because it's like, like, I don't watch a lot of network television or whatever or even, but, like, something, like

something like Yellowstone is this huge juggernaut of a show and I'm like, I know nothing about it other than the name. People are on horses, I guess. But like, it's a big deal. They are often on horses too. Yeah.

A lot of people watch it. Yeah, yeah. I mean, in the last episode, we made a lot of fun of Tracker. And I'm like, more people watch Tracker than probably any of the shows I watch. It's a huge show tracker. But when you look at the next few generations

of television shows, I don't think they're going to be heavily influenced by a tracker. But you never know, maybe I'm wrong. No, they're all going to be influenced by stranger things. Yeah, that's true, I guess. What if it was called strange trackers? Stranger tracker. You're out of something.

This picture made a billion, 308 million, etc. Okay. Et cetera, that could be anything. Other sequels, Nichols. Other sequels in this series are named Dominion and Rebirth. What's this one called? Jurassic World. But what's it called?

Jurassic World. Fallen Kingdom? There you go. That's the one I did. I thought it was possible that you would not remember the subtitle for all of these. Which one was that? Was that the third one? That's the one.

It's the second one, I think. It's the one that we did on the podcast. The reason I remember is because I always want to say it's called Jurassic World Tragic Kingdom. Which of course is not what it's called. That's where no doubt were eaten by dinosaurs. How much better would any of those movies be if no doubt was in it? Just having an adventure. Yeah, no doubt's like tour plane goes down on the Jurassic Park Island.

We got to run. I can't. I'm walking into spider webs. That's just fan service, Elliot. I'm sorry, Dan. You're going to have no doubt in your movie and you're going to have no references to their songs. Now he's naive. The dinosaurs are attractive by sound.

please don't speak. Exactly. I'm trapped in a box. Wait, is that a song? I don't know. That is a song there's, yeah. It's an older song there's. No doubt knowledge is shallow.

Yeah. Not a song by, no doubt. No. The bad guys, so no doubt. So Gwen Stefani has to save the other members of the band. And there's terrorists on the island who want to steal Dinosaur Dane or something. And she's something like, goes, shall we worry about her boss? What should we do?

Don't worry. She's just a girl. And then that's, because I'm there. And this is like, this is early, no doubt before Gwen Stefani made her like slight maga spin, pivot she's been on. Is that what she, I don't know about that. She's been doing that. Yeah.

I mean, she went, she went from kind of scat inflected pop punk to a more like hip hop-inflicted music. So she's, she just changes with the, she's a weather vane, you know. Here's one where the first movie definitely had a cultural impact. but then maybe not. It's a billion, 453 million. Yeah, no one likes Evilton, too. That was a billion-dollar movie.

From 2019, here's some trivia from it. From IMTV? Yeah. The Colning central to the plot is performed by a Norwegian singer, Aurora, the melody used for the, the colning is the dyes

iire which since the 13th century or sooner has referred to the wrath of God's judgment on humanity yeah we all know Verde's version of it which is quite shattering loud and shattering yeah so uh

I don't know it sounds like a pretty dramatic picture whatever it is but there's calming in it huh calming calming well calming colning I guess it's a type of hurting call is what I was able to Coleman?

Colminor's daughter? K-U-L-N-I-N-G. Oh, I don't know what that is. Yeah, it's a type of hurting call, I just said. The type of hurting call, okay. And any other trivia about this other than just that? Nope, that's what I put down. Is this an English language film or no?

When was this? 2019. As I said, it's a sequel to a film that has a definite, definite, Footprint. This one... Godzilla versus Kong. Maybe not. Wonder Woman, 1984.

No. This is an animated picture. Oh. From 2019, the sequels in 2019. Cars 5. Yeah. There's only three Cars movies. Thank God.

The third one is the best one. Minions for Wrath of Gru. This picture is named Frozen 2. Frozen 2. I was, Stuart, the only reason I would, I know it's not Minion's 4 is because that was after 2019, there was the first movie my wife saw in the theaters after COVID. And she kept saying, yep, that's why what I waited for was to see Rise and grew. I think mine was like, literally, like it was a, wait a minute, maybe that wasn't Rise of Roos.

Maybe that was the one after that. Like, I was just so desperate to see. movie at that point. So this is Frozen 2 you're talking about. It was not bad. It was fun. It was fun. Okay. I don't remember what mine was. I used to know. But Frozen 2. You're saying that's what it was? Frozen 2, yeah. Okay. Do you see that one? Did you see either Frozen? I saw the first Frozen. Again, not a movie that

a movie that I like better for the songs than the movie. I think there's good stuff. I was a Frozen 2. You can tell that they were struggling to figure out what this movie is about. Yeah. There's some okay songs in it. This last movie that I'm going to ask you about, I think Elliot has seen.

I think you've seen it. I saw Frozen too. Yeah. I feel like you've seen more of these than I have. Well, because the biggest movies that now in the past few years, especially the biggest movies that have come out are children's, our family movies. And the only movies I get to see in the theaters are movies that my kids want to see.

So the days when there's a Chinese movie from many years ago called Devils on the Doorstep. And I remember seeing that at Film Forum and later on reading that that movie made $20,000 during its entire American release and I was like, I was part of that. Like, it's a good movie and I got to be part of the like the small people.

But now I don't get to say that. Now it's just like, well, Zootopia 2 is the highest grossing movie in Disney history. Well, I was part of that. I paid for three tickets to Zootopia 2. You know, so those are the only movies I get to see in the theater these days. I almost got to see one battle after another

in the theaters, but it was only playing at 6 p.m., which was too early for me to go were 9 p.m., which was too late for me to go. So I had to watch it as a screener at home. Well, this movie made $1 billion, $420 million plus. $4.20 million. And here we, I'm going to...

One billion after another should be the title of this mini, by the way. Yeah, that's good. That's a good one, yeah. Some trivia from this movie's page. Yeah, slop it on us. When the two hippos crash into the docks, several apples are rolling toward them. They eat them. This is a reference to the game

Hungry Hungry Hippos Dan. This is Zatopia 2. Yeah, the one you just mentioned. Oh, I was going to say it was jungle cruise. The one you just mentioned it. No, I did see.

And when I saw that scene, I go, oh, this is a hungry, hungry hippos joke. Yeah. Did you slap your kids and be like, hey, look, that's hungry, hungry hippos? This is a reference to a thing that was old when I was a kid. Yeah.

I, here's that, did you guys have seen Zootopia too? Or Tutopia, as it should be called? I have not seen Teutopia. No, it's fine. It's fine. It gets surprising. I think Zootopia makes more sense. Zootopia, yeah.

We had this discussion. We talked about this at a previous episode, yeah. It gets surprisingly grim by the end of it. But it's fine. You know, I didn't love the first one. I didn't love Zootopia. So if you liked Zootopia, Zootopia too is more of the same, you know. Yeah.

Look at Stewart's face. Is it, does it like, does it feel like it's, like is it extra horny? No. Yeah, how horny is it? It's not horny at all. It has a pro... Give me a Scoville rating. It has a pro-immigration message.

Okay. Which I appreciate it. I'm horny for that. But no, it is not. It's very clear that there is no relationship between, other than a platonic friend one, between the rabbit and the fox. So if you want to see them,

if you're hoping that the online comic someone made where the fox is mad at the rabbit. You can say someone's. Some ones. And just a lot of people have probably made comics like this. But go on, sorry. Oh, yes. Well, the one in particular I'm talking about the comic where it's just about the fox and the rabbit.

The fox is mad because the rabbit had an abortion without telling him. And it all takes place in Jerry Seinfeld's apartment for some reason. If you're hoping that that scene shows up in the movie, it doesn't. It's not in there. I'm familiar with this comic, but apparently you are very familiar with this comedy. This is an online comic because I find it fascinating. I don't know anything about the person who made it. It's a, I almost understand someone doing kind of Rule 34,

taking two characters and having them have sex. This is just a relationship story about two people in a relationship where one has decided to not have a child without telling the other one. And the other one is upset about it. And the, but the strangest, which is strange from what you would want to do with these characters. But the strangest thing is that for the backgrounds, this artist has used Jerry Seinfeld's apartment from the show Seinfeld. So. Yeah. What are you getting at this? Like are these hand-drawn backgrounds or photographs?

Yes, I believe they are hand-drawn backgrounds. Awesome. No, no, they're not in photographs. It's all drawn. It's all drawn. Okay. I think it's actually a really good idea because I don't know about you, but when, you know, as an artist myself, I would use like reference photos. Sure, sure.

There's few apartments I know better than the interior. It would either be Seinfeld's apartment or the friends girls, you know, or friends ladies, I should say. But so Zootopia 2, I would say, if you like Zootopia, go ahead and watch Utopia 2. if you are lukewarm on Zootopia, you don't necessarily need to see Zootopia too. And if you like Jerry Seinfeld's apartment, read this comic. And I mentioned

K-pop Demon Hunters in passing earlier. Have your kids watched that? Is that a thing the Kalim Boys are into? That's something my younger son's very into. He actually just showed it to me a couple days ago for the first time. That's a fun movie too. That's fun.

It's fun, yeah. The music is somehow very catchy and also I don't remember how any of it sounds. Like it just didn't stick in my head. There's one that goes something like up, up, up, up, up, up. Like that. Is there? Okay, I'll take your word for it.

I think so. A movie I just saw the other day, but don't remember the song. I haven't even seen the movie. I just have, now the songs are all over the place. But, yeah, it's a fun movie. Cool. Well, we went on a real journey. Where did we end up?

A real discovery quest. We're lost. We're out. Yeah. Our discovery quest took us down a dirt road to a ditch. Yeah, that's going to be. My biography is going to be Discovery Quest Stuart Wellington's sexuality

through the lens of the flop house. I don't even know if that was like a thing we talked about on microphone. No, it was all the microphones. It's probably a bloop. So for listeners, so we record these episodes two at a time. Let's take you behind the curtain. Let's open the Canoma on this one.

And the previous episode, before we started officially recording, we were talking about Stewart's discovery quest about his sexuality over time. as he's co-hosted at the show. And then we made a glancing mention reference to it during the actual episode. So to us, the phrase discovery quest is now very funny. But to you the listener, it means nothing.

Well, because we also like spun it out into like, you know, like this is a PBS show. Yeah, so buckle up. You're going to get a lot of discovery quest mentions. From this point on, it's a lot of jokes about discovery quest. Yeah. Okay. Well, now that we've done the important work of explaining something that happened off,

Mike, we can sign off. Thank you to Maximum Fun. Go to Maximum Fun.org to check out all the other great shows on this podcasting network. If you like us, I guarantee you'll like something else as well. And if you don't like us, you may still like something else. Yeah, yeah, it works the other way too. Yeah.

And thank you to our producer, Alex. He goes by the name Howell Dottie on the internet for his own creative endeavors. What does he tell about? What's his full name in real life? Alex Smith. Okay. You just called him Alex, and I just wanted to get him, let him have full credit. Yeah.

Well, it's not Alex Mack, who is, who is producing the show. Speaking of names, I've been Dan McCoy. I've been Stuart Wellington. And I'm Elliot Kaelan, and I want to thank Dan McCoy for taking us on this journey through the billion-dollar babies that we've forgotten. Let's take another look at them. And then, Dan, here you would put the in-memorium montage of movies that we don't remember anymore. See ya. Maximum Fun

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