The Flop House - FH Mini 146 – Best of the Best (Pictures)

Episode Date: February 21, 2026

Elliott takes us on a tour of Best Picture Academy Award winners, filtered into his highly-scientific categories, and then asks us, "But which Best is BEST?" Subscribe to our NEWSLETTER, “Flop Secrets! It’s the best way to keep up on all things Flop House!

Live from the Flop House Pavilion in downtown Hollywood, California, and Brooklyn, it's the first annual Best Best Picture Awards, a celebration of the objectively best movies in the history of cinema, according to the Academy Awards voters and nobody else. I'm your host, Elliot Kaelin, author of Joke Farming, how to write comedy and other nonsense, and joining me today are my Gala co-hosts. Dan McCoy.

And Stuart Wellington from television. Which television? Stuart. Anyone you watch Stuart Wellington on? Or is the band television? Is that where you came from? Yep. Marky Moon. That's my dad.

Your dad is Marky Moon? Yeah, Marky Moon is friends with Marky Mark. That's only the same nickname, yeah. They don't agree on politics. No, Marky Moon, Marky Marky Mark and Biz Marky all hang out into the Marky club. At the Marky Market. You know, we never know what these minis are going to be. And, you know, I was just very excited with a blast of

energy we just got. My pleasure. Well, it's an old flop house mini, but as listeners may know, the Academy Award nominees were announced not too long ago, and the Academy Awards are coming up sooner than you can imagine it. And so in this Flop House mini, we're going to talk about the best pictures.

That's right, every year, Hollywood's shiniest and sunniestest and most famousest, get together to decide what is the greatest work of cinematic art that was created that kind of previous year. And of course, this being a movie podcast where usually we watch a bad movie and then we talk about it, I thought instead of talking about bad movies,

let's talk about the best movies, the best pictures there are. So I wanted to start with a couple of games for you guys. And by start, I mean, that's the whole thing. We love games. We're a couple of game boys. Pick us up and push our buttons. This should be a song, Stuart.

This should be like the early 90s kind of like. I'm a game boy. Pick me up. Cartridge my buttons. It's like a... Why can I remember the name of that, the German band? Craftwerk.

It's like if craft work had lasted a little bit longer, you know, with these songs. I'm a game boy. I'm kind of blurry, but you're gonna have some fun. Yeah, very,

and like a little bit like more the poppy, Gary Newman style. Yes, yes. Yeah. In Game Boy, do, do, do, do, do. So, anyway,

we got off track pretty quick, but that's okay. We're talking about best picture winners, best picture movies. And so first, I wanted to go through the nominees for this year's Best Picture. We're going to play a game called Best Word Association. I want each of you to just give me one word,

whatever comes to your mind, when I say the name of each of these Best Picture nominees. There's 10 of them. I'm really interested to see how many Elliot has seen. I want to know how many you guys have seen too. I've seen a surprising number of these, actually. Of all of the nominees for Best Picture, this year, I've actually seen one, two, three, four, five,

six, seven of them. I've seen most of the time. Of the 10. Thank you, Dan. Dan really is in with the kids. That's probably about where I'm hovering. Yeah. I still haven't gotten to see.

I really want to see sentimental value secret agent. I haven't seen this yet. My older son really wants to see F1. So I guess I'll watch that with him. But the other ones I have seen. So. Elliot, you're a dad. You should love F1.

I should already watch F1. Yeah. So the I should, it's, I mean, I'll say this. It stands for fun. F1 was nominated for best visual effects. And having been, And the guest of a friend of the flop house, Todd Vizier, took me as his guest to the Academy Awards

Special Effects Bake Off presentation thing. I was like, the effects in F1 are amazing. What they did with Special Effects on that is astonishing. But you would not know it watching the movie. So here are the movies. I'm going to name the one by one. You just give me each one word that you associate with that movie or that just makes you think of.

And the first one is sinners. Vampires. Uh, uh, guitar. Okay. I mean, vampire guitar is. good name is a good name for a movie. One battle after another. What's the one word makes you think of?

Beers. Oh, that's what I was going to say. Okay, so beers for both you? All right. Yeah, beers. Train dreams. Trees. Okay, I'll say beautiful.

I just watched it yesterday. Marty Supreme. Ping pong. Tense. Tense, like you sleep in? Yeah, not like two tents. Well, that could go to either way. Yeah, yeah.

But you mean tense like, oh, this is, this is uncomfortable. Okay. I was thinking of the old... Can I change mine? I'm a wigwam. I'm a teepee. The problem is your two tense. Yeah.

I'm going to say bathtub. Bathtub. Okay, sounds good. Sentimental value. Irreversible. Nordic. Is that... Does that count?

Sure, sure. The secret agent. Handsome? Brazil? Okay. Hamnet. Boring. Sad.

F-1. Vroom. Dad. Bognia. Bees? Yeah, I was going to say bugs. Okay. And Frankenstein.

Tall. CGI. Okay. So, aside from a hamnet, I didn't really feel like I got the kind of results I was looking for here. But that makes me wonder. So I want to see, before we get into other... I'm supposed to make snap judgments? I could do that.

No, no. We don't have to do it. Well, before we get into it. I want to get your thoughts that how many of these did you guys see? How many of the best picture nominees this year did you see?

You know what? I'm going to have to look at the list. Again, well, I'll mention them one by one. You tell me if you guys are sinners. Yes. Yes. Train dreams. Yes.

No. Marty Supreme. Yes. Sentiment of value. Yep. No. The secret agent. No.

Not yet. Hamnet. Not yet. I watched half of it and I was like, you know what? Did you watch the ham half or the net half? Because half the movie is about making. Haman's half is about catching fish in this.

It just like, it like did not engage me to such a level that I'm like, I don't need to watch all of this. There's no law. I can stop now. You're right. That was my stance with Eddington. I was like, I don't know. It's a point five for me. What about F1? No. It's a movie based on a key on a keyboard. What about

Bagonia? No, not yet. What about Frankenstein? Yes. Okay. Well, I want to see. Wow. Ellie'd seen more than me. That's crazy this year. Yeah, I've seen five and a half. Only six. I really took advantage of the, I've still have to take care of the writers guild screener app

that has you know I was at first I was like you know a little bit annoyed at the switchover to um not sending DVDs anymore it's so much better without them yeah but but now that like they've put all of the for your consideration movies on one app rather than like having like a bunch of links all over the place I'm like yes please I love this yeah it's much

better um so thank you whoever's idea that was are you were there any movies you were surprised by getting nominated for Best Picture this year. I want to know, are there any of you are there any you hope win? Are there any you really hope don't win? Are there any movies you wish were nominated? Well, I was definitely surprised by F1. I didn't feel like that was even in the conversation. And I'm surprised by... I mean, the conversation

does not have the movie F1 in it. There's no part where Harry Cole is watching TV and the movie F1 the movie wouldn't be made for another 40-year-old though. He would really take us mind off of the web of lies that he's enmeshed in. I was also surprised, though, by Frankenstein. Frankenstein's the one I would say. Like, before it came out, like, people, it just seemed like, ooh, Guillermo del Toro's getting to make his dream project.

And then, like, the word on it was so, like, mixed negative. And, like, I watched it. I'm like, okay, this is fine. Like, I didn't, I didn't, I didn't hamnet it. I didn't stop in the middle, but I. It did take me four viewings to watch the whole thing. Yeah. I was also a little surprised by that one.

I mean, I liked Frankenstein, but yeah, it didn't feel... I was like, this is fine. Yeah, this is good. Yeah. I'm not mad at it. I was surprised that Bagonia was nominated, if only because it's such an off-putting movie, but I feel like it...

It was a recommendation for me in an earlier episode, but I feel like it does not quite reach the height of, like, this is off-putting in a way that I find meaningful, that it's, like, affecting me, you know, completely. Is it more digestible than, like, what was the last one you did? Kinds of kindness. I never saw kinds of kindness.

I feel like part of it was like coasting on the just general love of Yorgos and Emiston working together. I think that's part of it. I certainly I liked Bogonia more than poor things which I did not particularly like. But are they, and I have to say like,

are there any of you guys hope wins? What's your pick that you would like to have win? I mean, I would say this isn't necessarily a hope, but I mean, I would like, love to see sinners win. I feel like there's a chance that like sinners and one battle after another somehow we're going to split the vote and then something like sentimental value, a movie about making movies

might win, which I love sentimental value, so I wouldn't be mad at it. I would be very happy if either one battle after another or sinners won. I also really, really loved Marty Supreme, but if we're like making choices here, I think that giving it to Kugler or Paul Thomas Anderson is a more meaningful narrative like they've built up

a career and I think that the Saftees like still have plenty of chances or I guess it's just Josh for this one I would I think I'd be fine with sinners winning I liked a lot I'd be fine with one after another I'd be fine if train dreams won

I thought I really love train dreams I thought it was a big beautiful movie. Yeah, I'm sure I'm like it. It does not fit a exciting political narrative because it is about a white guy living through old,

you know, the early 20th century. But I think it is a really gorgeous. Train Dreams did for me what Hamnet did not do for me, which was to create this kind of beautiful feeling of kind of gossamer emotion and human life. Whereas Hamnet, I was looking for that from it. I didn't get it. Yeah. It was

that one was absolutely gorgeous. And then like you know, I was a by it, but not like super affected until like the very end of train dreams where I'm like explosively crying all of a sudden. You were ejaculating tears out of your eyes. The train at such dreams.

Dan was actually watching Thomas the Tank End. Well, unsurprisingly movies where like maybe a emotionally constricted man has some sort of big catharsis affects me. And I found myself very, there's a one of the big plot points is an out of

control fire that destroys a home. And that, I mean, just because of the recent history of my local area, that really hit me very hard. But I think I haven't seen, I really want to see secret agent sentimental value. I haven't seen them yet, but I feel like. I feel like, I feel like you guys would both really like sentimental value. I know. I mean, I love his movies.

I think, I think the true is great. But so I really want to see it. But I feel like the cream of the- I think this is the first one where he's like really touching on like being a father, which I think is interesting. Well, that's what Frankenstein is all about, too. But I feel like that handful of movies is like the cream of the best pictures. They're the best pictures, the best pictures.

But, okay, so we've talked about that. Were there any movies that you wanted to see nominated for Best Picture that year that did not get a Best Picture nomination? No other choice. Yeah, that's where I would go to. I really love that. I feel like I've seen folks dismissing it as a lesser work by Park Chanwick, and I think that's... Like, yeah, it's too funny and good. But also, like, a lesser Park Chanwick.

It's a little bit like when the Cohn brothers would do a movie like Big Lobowski, and people are like, they just did Fargo. Now they're doing a comedy. It's like, yeah, and they're doing one of the greatest comedies ever. Like, them doing like a silly comedy is still head and shoulders above most other movies. And they're like, oh, this funny Hitchcockian thriller is also a condemnation of the unyielding appetite of capitalism for progress and artificial intelligence. And what, I mean, we didn't really get to talk about it that much. And I won't talk in detail since you said you haven't seen it.

No, I haven't seen it yet. I really want to. But I feel like the movie that you think it's going to. to be like it's sort of in there but it's also so different like the film takes these unexpected turns all the way through it and takes you know gives everyone more complex stranger emotional larks like the just like the incidents in it go off in ways you would not expect it's just great yeah it's terrific and that's great and are there any movies that you were glad were not nominated for Best Picture that you worried might be

I don't like I don't feel like there's some like big movie that I bear some sort of ill will against this year. You weren't like good, wicked didn't, Wicked Part 2 didn't get a nomination. I mean certainly shouldn't have I liked the first half fairly well but like man they really fumbled that

like it shouldn't have been two movies. It shouldn't have been. I don't have been fine but like it should have been one movie. Yeah. Well guys let's move on. I had one, it's time. One best picture. trivia question for you.

This is a question about Best Picture Firsts before we get into the real meat of today's episode. People complain all the time that comic character movies, movies based on comics characters, they never get nominated for Best Picture.

They don't get respected when they're so popular. Can you tell me what was the first comics character movie to be nominated for Best Picture? The first movie

nominated for Best Picture based on a comics character. This is easy. I got it. Dick Tracy. I don't think that was nominated for Best Picture. Let's see.

Richie Rich. I don't think Superman was nominated. I'm wondering whether it's some like trick thing. Could be. Could be a trick thing. Was Annie? No. But you're thinking the right when you're thinking about comic strips.

The first obviously. Rose is rose. Pearls for his mind. Shoe, the movie. Everyone, when people know. I started a fucking shoe again. How Joker, Black Panther, that stuff was kind of nominated. First comics movie nominated for Best Picture was Skippy from 1931 based on the comic strip character, Skippy.

So they've been nominated in comics movies for decades and decades. What was Skippy? Your mouth, nerds. Peanut Butter. Some, like, what was the old Skippy? So, Skippy is about a little kid named Skippy and that the comic strip is about. With you so far. And Skippy Peanut Butter, actually, they used the name and the maker of the Skippy comic strip

sued Skippy Peanut Butter because they were using it without his permission. What about the comic strip, GIF? How did that go? And in exchange, the creator of the Skippy Comic Strip got unlimited peanut butter for life. That was the settlement. That was the peanut butter solution.

And that was not the last big brand to be named after a character from a Best Picture winning or nominated movie because, as I was explaining to my friend Tom, just this past weekend in San Francisco, Popeyes, is not named after Popeye the Sailor Man, it's named after Popeye Doyle

from the French Connection. So, with that in mind, let's go into the main... With that in mind. Let's go into the main meat of this episode, the Best Picture Awards. We all know that the Best Picture Award goes to the best movie

of the year it came out. That's scientifically proven. But what movies are the best of all the best picture winners? Finally, you, Dan, and you, Stuart, get to be the Academy as you vote for the... best best picture in the different best picture categories.

Are you ready to tell us which best picture pictures are the best best best pictures of the best picture pictures? I think so. I'm going to name a category of best picture movies. I'm going to let you decide. We've got a lot of these. So let's not discuss it for too long. But you can have fun discussing them. That's fine.

It's just fodder for funny conversation. It doesn't matter. So starting up. We're really backed off that. Our first category is best musical. best picture. Which is which of the best pictures that are musicals is the best? And our nominees are Chicago. Oliver. Ooh. My Fair Lady. The Sound of Music. That's right. They were back-to-back musical best

picture winners. An American in Paris and the Broadway melody. It's just, for me, this is an easy one. I'm going to go, My Fair Lady all the way. That's, I have to admit, I've not seen the Broadway melody. but I think My Fair Lady is head and shoulders above the other ones. Okay, Stuart, do you agree? Which of these musicals

is the best musical, best picture? I would say the only two I've seen were Chicago and Sound of Music. I'm going to say Sound of Music. All right. There are some other musicals that were not in every best picture or that one best picture,

but they'll be in other categories. So Dan says, My Fair Lady, Stuart says the Sound of Music, no love for Chicago. Where would you go, Elliot? In this category, I would also say,

I would also say My Fair Lady. Yeah, I feel like having me argue in this category when Elliott is just sitting there head brimming with knowledge of this garbage. I mean, we started... That'd be like if I was like, what's the best Warhammer guy, guys?

Off mic before our... You know, we did our last episode before this and now we're doing the mini episode, but at the very beginning of a recording session, I remember Stewart saying something like, should you get into really boring old musicals like you guys? And I was like, yes, you should.

Yeah, you should. We can finally connect on another level. Dan was talking about his dislike of Meet Me in St. Louis, which, all right. I mean, it's a beautiful movie, but okay. It's just not for me. I'm not, you know, I understand. You don't want to go out and burn every print of it. No, I hope not.

That would be a crime. So, best musical, best picture. I think that means my fair lady is going to end up winning this one. Let's move on to the next category. Oh, best sports best picture. There's a lot of best picture winners about sports. The nominees are gladiator. Chariots of Fire,

Million Dollar Baby, Rocky, and Ben Hur. What is the best sports best picture? These are all movies that won best picture, but what's the best one of them that is about sports? Well, I'll admit that I don't think I... I remember my parents watching Chariots of Fire

when I was a kid, too young to be interested in watching... It sounds cooler than it probably is. There's no actual fiery chariots. Like Apollo isn't flying through the sky. I don't think so. I know the Evangelist theme. Yeah.

Yeah. But so of the ones I've seen, I'm going to put Rocky at the top. It's not just a good sports movie. It's a good movie about people, like a small-scale people movie. Yeah, no shockey here. I'm also putting forward Rocky. This is no shockey. You're right.

There had been a shockey. Yeah, what would the shockey be? I don't know how to react to that. Maybe when that little robot touches you. That's not in this Rocky. Rocky 4, unfortunately is not nominated for. I thought that's what we were talking about. Rocky 4 was the best picture. No, this is...

Which one are we talking about? The first Rocky. Mr. T one? No, again, that's Rocky 3, not that one. Okay. I think he means... The one with Zeus... I think he means creed.

I think he mispoke. He meant creed. Yeah, yeah. No, I would also go with Rocky on this one. You know, I do like Million Dollar Baby a lot. There's something about boxing. I don't like it in person, but I like it in the movies. Why is that, guys?

Yeah. I don't like seeing people punch each other in the face in real life. I remember, like, I remember, like, the fighter. even though I think the boxing... The boxing is the worst part of that, because they shoot it like you're just watching it on television. No, but you're right. Boxing movies tend to be good movies.

I don't know what it is about it, but, like... There's a lot of great boxing movies. Raging Bull. The setup. Like, there's a lot of good boxing movies. Fat City is about boxers, right? On some level, I would lump something like Warrior in with boxing movies because MMA has a lot in common with boxing. It's similar.

So let's say, Rocking movies. So let's say Rocky, congratulations on best sports, best pictures. Salai Stallone, come up and accept the award. Thanks, guys. I appreciate it being the best sports, best picture. And moving on, let's move. We don't want him to say. Wow, you're making fun of Rocky there.

Yeah, I know. I do. Brought you by Tostitos. He was right there in front of us. I guess I have to thank Adrian. By which I again mean the Emperor Hadrian, but I don't like to say the H, you build that wall. You used to have a true unit, but those guys cut it down.

Anyway, moving on. I'm cockney, so I don't say the age. That's what I am. Yeah, they called me the cockney. To express that I'm cockney. But the people thought it was about New Rochney. And I'm like, I'll make a movie about a newt, like a little salamander. That's weird, all slimy.

It's one of the worst amphibians, honestly. Yeah, really, what a sucky amphibian. This is ridiculous. Well, moving on to the next category. We've got Best Social Issues, Best Picture. These are the best pictures that are about big, important social issues. Let's take a look. And the nominees are...

Dan's getting upset already. He hates it. He only wants escapism, escapism, nothing else. And the nominees are, gentlemen's agreement, an indictment of anti-Semitism. The Lost Weekend, a hard-hitting look at alcoholism. Nomad Land, which is about how hard it is to keep a toilet in your van and you have to poop in a bucket.

The best years of our lives, the tales of men dealing with World War II trauma, and one flew over the cuckoo's name. about our nation's mental health system. Who wins the best social issues, best picture? I just gave Dan shit, but the thing is, I think I've only seen one of these movies, so I deserve the shit.

I've seen best years for our lives, one flew over the Cougu's Nest, and the lost weekend. I haven't seen The Other One. You didn't see No Manline? Did not see No Man. Me neither. I only saw One Flew Over the Cougars Nest. I've seen all of these movies,

although I have to admit, if I'm being honest, I fell asleep a couple times during No Bad Land. I think that Should I see any of these other ones? I mean, the ones that I've seen are all good. I would recommend them. But you've got to pick a best one. That's the way that you can't be like,

they're all winners. Everyone gets a trophy. The entire Academy Award system would break down, Dan. I think one flew over the cuckoo's nest is a very entertaining movie. And it certainly doesn't, like it has, you know, Spoilers, a heartbreaking ending, but is maybe a little too cutesy about mental health leading up to that.

Like, I'm not 100%... I might go Lost Weekend. Okay, Lost Weekend. Stuart, just based on the titles, which one would you pick? Chariots of fire. Okay, that was the last category. Oh, the issue is running.

The social issue is that these chariots keep bursting into flame. No Man Land's more current, right? It is the most current. That's true. most relevant to me, Stuart. I and mine, the one I would pick, I think would probably be the one that's the, in some ways the least immediately relevant now, but

the best years of our lives, I think is an amazing movie. I think it's just an amazingly beautiful movie. And it's so well observed. It has some funny moments, but it's really touching. It's really beautiful. So I would go with the best years of our lives. It's got one of my all-time favorites. Mernaloi in it. Moving on,

the next category, ooh, time to get tough, everybody. It's best war, best picture. The best picture about a war. Listening. The nominees are the deer hunter, platoon,

the Hurt Locker, all quiet on the Western Front, the 1930s one. Gone with the wind, the 1930s one. From here to eternity, the bridge on the River Kwai, and Lord of the Rings,

the return of the king, which is the winner for Best War Best Picture. Stuart, do you, none of these really stick out to you in any way, do they? I was about to say, you picked a bunch of things

that glamorize war, dude. I didn't pick them. The Academy picked them. Which is the best war, best picture? Obviously, you know my answer. It's Lord of the Rings Return of the King. I would guess that when he's George's answer. Yeah. Which war is that, by the way? The war between, I mean, it's the final war of the ring,

but it's also the war between the forces of Sauron. No, no. But I just wondered, I don't remember what's the official name of that war? Like, I know that there's the war of the five armies in The Hobbit. Battle of Five Armies. I think it is the War of the Ring. Oh, okay, the War of the Ring. Imagine if that series is called The War of the Ring. What a badass title that would be.

Even better than Lord of the Rings. It's the War of the Ring. Amazing. Although Lord of the Rings makes you wonder, who is this guy? Yeah, that's true. Why does he not show up in the book? Why so many rings? Is he Alan Moore?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. For me, like... Gone with the Wind for you, Dan? I mean, the filmmaking in Gone with the Wind is terrific. Like the message is not good, but it is a beautifully mounted epic movie. But, like, part of the question I have when, like, thinking about this is like, well, am I just saying which movie I think is the best or does it matter whether it is like a good exemplar of war movies, for instance? I think you're just picking what you think is the best of the movies. But would be those two different, would those be two different choices for you?

Possibly, but I don't know what would be the exemplar of war movies pick that I would... Well, Dan, which is the closest to your experience of war? I was going to go with Bridge on the River Kwai, which I think is my favorite of those movies, but it is less about the act of war and more about like the confusing space these characters find themselves in as prisoners of war. And like how they, you know, like one of the characters. sort of like let's like the, I don't know, lets their like need to do something and like have pride in his work,

like blind him to sort of the larger context of the war. I do have a question just to help you clarify. Yeah. How many Muma Kill are in Bridge over Rubikwai? I mean, by my count, there's less than one. Less than one. How about which king's unfell beasts? None of those either.

Which King of Angmar, to be specific. Yeah, yeah. Which King of Angmar? Oh, you don't want to know. That's a classic Lord of the... That's a classic Middle Earth comedy bit. It's the Witch King of Angmar. Now, okay, look, we gotta...

We got to... Candle did that shit at the Shire years ago. ...is going to the Witch King of Angmar? Which King of Angmar? Yes. Yes, King of Angmar? No. And I would choose, I think the original All Quiet on the Western Front.

I think it's still a really powerful movie. I haven't seen the new one. There's part of me that's like, I saw the original. I don't know any decision. Yeah. You asked before, I think, yeah, if I was going to pick a war war movie, that would probably be the one. Uh-huh. Not the Hurt Locker, one of the least, I think, accurate looks at war to win Best Picture?

There's this idea that there's these just like these kind of freelance bomb disposal guys, cowboying around, you know, just doing whatever. Mm-hmm. I don't know. I mean, I can't speak to the accuracy of it or not. Like, I don't know. Oh, I forgot that, Dan, you were found out that the war stories used to tell all the time. It was revealed that they were stolen glass. Valor.

Yeah, yeah, that's right. Dan, we used to go to bars, and Dan would get free drinks by telling his old war tales. Yeah, he had that phony arm that squirted in blood. They're all stolen from old EC economics. Easy comics, and also the Aubrey Maturin novels.

And we're like, Dan, there's no way you fought in the Napoleonic course. Dan would be a great Stephen Mantoran. Oh, that's right. That's how you say it. Whereas I feel like I would be a great Jack Aubrey. That's the basis of our friendship. All right.

I guess I'm not, I guess I'm what, one of the boats? You're the boat We're riding around on top of But it's like a talking boat That's like Switch on my man You're all the seamen Well I do have two children

Moving on to the next Category Best British person Best picture These are movies That are a particular interest To British people The Academy

likes to recognize British things And so King's speech baby So your nominees are The King's Speech How Green was My Valley Mrs. Miniver

Mutiny on the bounty, Cavalcade and a man for all seasons. Which of these British person best pictures is the best British person best picture? Are there any of you have not seen? You have not seen Cavalcade. I know you haven't seen Cavalcade. There's no way. I haven't seen Cavalcade.

I haven't seen a man for all seasons. What were the other like last ones used? Like I think the last four. On the bounty? You've seen that, certainly, right? With Clark Gable and Charles Lawton? No, I haven't seen it. I've seen Mrs. Minnabur?

I've seen King's Speech. I have seen Mrs. Minnivar. Okay, so you have seen almost none of these movies. So between the ones you've seen... I would go with how green was my valley. It's a pretty good movie. Man for All Season sounds really cool, so I'd pick that one. But I'm not familiar with it.

Okay. Well, it's the story of... What's his face? Thomas of Beckett, is that... No, no, that's... That's Beckett. A Man for All Seasons is... Becker?

Becker is the story of Thomas... A Man for All Seasons is about... is about the is Thomas or Thomas Moore? Oh, yeah. Yeah. I apologize. Well, I got the Thomas part right. Yeah, you did. That's true.

But you were thinking of Thomas as English muffins, which they've not made a movie about yet. I was thinking about my own John Thomas. Don't need to hear about that. And I'm the one guy who made a seaman joke just a moment ago. You know what? I'm going to go with the King's speech also. Only because it does everything that movie needs to do.

It's an entertaining watch. You know exactly going in, exactly what's going on. Although, how green in my valley is great also. Meeting the Bounty is great. I've also never seen Cavalcade, and I've been meaning to for a while. Maybe, actually, you know what? Maybe I'll say, maybe I'll say, maybe I'll say Mutiny on the Bounty. It doesn't matter.

We're moving out to the next category. The next category is we've got a couple more categories until the ad break. It doesn't matter. The next category is Best Based on a True Story Best Picture. Okay. These are movies based on a true story. And some of these movies have come up in previous categories. They're also based on true stories.

These are other ones. And the nominees are 12 years a slave. Gandhi, the last emperor, Schindler's List, Amadeus, Spotlight, Lawrence of Arabia, I know Dan's going to say that one, a man for all seasons, again,

double nomination, Patton, the life of Emuilzola, and the great Ziegfeld. No, I mean, for me, number one with a bullet out of those, Amadeus. I love... Yeah.

I thought you were going to say Lawrence of Arabia. Armadais is really good. I mean, Lawrence of Arabia is also a fantastic movie, but I'm going to go with Amadeus because I, like, even as like a kid where you don't, and think like, oh, you know, you're going to watch Amadeus, like, I watch that movie over

and over again. It's like funny and like the performances are so great. It like moves for like a long movie. How can you be the best hater of all time? That's true. And also, it's got the craziest poster I've ever seen

of a movie. That poster promises something that is weirdly fantastical compared to what you actually get. But it is a really good movie. Ephrae Abraham's so good in it as you're saying, the greatest hater of all time. Stuart, you're also going to say Amadeus? Yeah, I mean, it's tough to beat it, right? I feel like I have to say Shindler's List because I'm Jewish.

And that movie had such a big impact on everyone I knew when it came out. And it is an incredibly well-made movie, but it is certainly not fun. And also, it also cemented Steven Spielberg as also like, not just a great box office smash, but like an important filmmaker. Exactly. Although I would say when it comes to his greatest. movies, I still wouldn't say probably E.T. is this greatest movie.

There's something about it that's just so, that's just so beautiful and so magical. But you're right. I think it's, that is the movie where it was like, oh, Steven Spielberg has more than popcorn on his mind, you know? I think you just wrote a fucking, like, variety piece about it. That's true. I've got to set it,

put it in the portal of time to go back to 1993. Although Lawrence of Arabia does fucking rock. I mean, it is a very close one, but. That's a tough one, yeah. Lawrence Verabia also narrowly missed being nominated in the Best British Person Best Picture category. I don't know how it didn't make it in there. Must have split the voters.

Coming up the next category, we're almost up to our break, half time. The next category, best made-up story set in an earlier time period picture. These are kind of historical movies, but they have made-up fictional stories in historical settings. Can I guess one of these? It's called historical fiction. There's a... I've never heard that phrase before. Never heard of it.

Shakespeare and Love's got to be in this one. That's one of the nominees. The nominees are, Shakespeare and Love, Unforgiven, Titanic, dances with wolves, and no country for old men, which is set in 1980, despite being a 21st century movie. So I'm calling it. I've actually seen every single movie in this category. We did it.

We did it. We had a category where Stewart saw them all. Correct. As long as they're mostly movies from the 90s up till now. In fact, they're all movies from the 90s up till now. Can you run through them all again really fast? Unforgiven. Okay.

Dances with Wolves. Titanic. Shakespeare in love, and no country for old men. Stuart, it's so good that I didn't nominate Simmeron, the, I think, 1930 best picture winner, which was a struggle Western. I will say 100%. It's got to be unforgiven.

I feel like Unforgiven is so good, and Hackman is so good in it, and it's so like both bare bones, but also straightforward. It completely dissects the, like, myth of the West. And that scene with Gene Hackman and Saul Rubenek in the fucking, and Richard Harris in the jail is like a perfect movie scene.

Duck of death. Yeah. You know, just to provide some variety, like, Unforgiven's way up there, but I'm going to go, I'm actually going to go Shakespeare in Love. I like, I think it gets undervalued because of its lightness and also people mad about saving Private Ryan not winning that year. so like they needed to shit on Shakespeare in love because you can't just like two movies

you have to one must win I mean like that is the Oscars thing but uh but yeah I just that movie is so much fun that I'm gonna go with it all right that's pretty good I think I would either go with unforgiven or I might give it to Titanic to be honest it's not my favorite movie

but it is undeniable that is a movie that captures people's hearts that like tells a big bold story and their bucks. The ship's wreck scenes are amazing. The romance touched people. James Cameron drew that picture of Rose, I believe, in the movie because he's that good and Arnest. He's a double threat.

He's both a director and also he can sketch. I feel like people are going to be mad that none of us picked No Country for Old Men, but that's never been one of my Cohen movies. I respect it. I like it. But it feels like, I don't know. I just, I want a Cohen movie when I see a Cohen movie. I feel the same way.

I liked it, but I was showing my... my older son's the beginning of Hudsucker proxy yesterday. And like, that's what I want at a Coen Brothers movie. I want them to make a movie nobody else could ever make. And it also suffers from the fact that it shares a category with fucking unforgiving. Yes, and unforgiven. I like more than no country for it. I mean, it's a, I mean, say what you will about his politics.

Clint Eastwood, great filmmaker. You know, I'm a big fan of his work. One take guy. Yep, because he is old and does not want to work late hours. One final category before we take a short break. the final category for this half Best Best Picture in a Foreign Language And the nominees are Parasite

So guys, what's the winner in that category? Oh, I see what you did there. It's Paris. I mean, I will say Parasite rules. It's very good. Yeah, Parasite. We'll see if it changes

Still the only best picture winner to be in another language. You know, I guess Last Emperor has Chinese in it but there's also English in it. Parasite, there's no English in it, you know? Mm-mm. just entirely in Korean, right? So Parasite by default wins that one.

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And we now return to the first annual flop house Best Best Picture Awards, hosted by Elliot Kalin, Dan McCoy, and Stuart Wellington. You know, guys, there's been a lot of movies with a lot of guys in them. And sometimes the guys in Best Picture Movies have problems. So this next category is the best, this guy's got a problem, best picture movie. Are you ready for the nominees? Yes.

Yeah, I got problems. I want to see movies about guys with problems. So everyone wants to see movies about guys with problems, and so the nominee is for Best, This Guy's Got a Problem, Best Picture, are Marty, Rain Man, Hamlet, A Beautiful Mind, Boris Gump, Kramer versus Kramer,

and Silence of the Lambs. What is your best, This guy's got a problem, best picture. Marty, of course, it's loneliness, Rain Man, it's dealing with his brother, Hamlet, he's got to figure out how to avenge his dad's death, beautiful mind, he's got some real issues.

And he's got, like, ghost problems, dude. and ghost problems. Beautiful Mind also kind of has ghost problems. He does. He obviously has an issue with history. Kramer versus Kramer. He's got this divorce and kid to deal with. And Silence of the Lambs.

There's a lot of problems that that guy has in that movie. He's hungry. He's so hungry and hangary. So what is your win for best? This guy's got a problem, best picture. Yeah, I'm just going to go personal faith from this. Silence of the Lambs. It's a little bit of a different kind of problem.

But a lot of the ones you put it, there. It's, yeah, Sons of the Lams, I think, gets, um, I think it's easy to overlook certain things about Sons

the Lams in, like, just focusing on the amazing performance from Anthony Hopkins, but it's a very well-told story, and it's very beautiful. It's also shows parts of America that you don't often see,

like these, like, shitty steel, like, Midwestern steel towns. Um, and you, it's like, filled with it's filled with like extras

that just I don't know it's awesome it's great it's a great movie yeah I mean I do think it's worth bringing up in our modern world that like sort of in spite of it it tries not to be this but it can be taken in some very

transphobic ways like the movie itself tries to say like hey that's not what this person is they have a different pathology they think they're like this, but they're not. And I think Jonathan Demi as a director was very much a friend to the queer community

or tried to be, but it's clumsy in certain ways relating to like making that difference, like not villainizing like a character that could be seen a certain way. I certainly do feel like they are playing on the audience's discomfort

for that type of person in order to make Buffalo Bill seem seem more out Utre. but it is a really well-made movie. I have to say, though, I think my pick for this category is Marty. Marty is another touching movie. It's really good.

Ernest Borgine's really good in it. And it's a really, it is the opposite of most Best Picture Winners, not all, but most in that it is super small stakes. I would call Marty the Anora of the 1950s in that it is a movie about... You have Stewart's attention now.

It is not huge scale. It is about human beings and loneliness. And Marty is fucking nude for most of the movie. Like, he just keeps stripping his clothes on. So, you know, there's very intense sex scenes in it. Oh, yeah, okay. So, no. Let me just, uh, just watch how to stream Marty.

Mr. Skin, Ernest Borg, nine. But I think, uh, Marty, I think Marty accomplishes it for what it's doing in the 50s, a lot of what Enora is accomplishing in what it's doing. Um, but obviously about a different type of person. But science slam is still really good. Yeah. Uh, solid picks. Moving on to the next category.

Things are getting interesting. This is the category of best problematic cast member, best, Best best picture with a problematic cast member in it. And the nominees are Annie Hall, American Beauty, Braveheart, and Grand Hotel. Grand Hotel is in the category of course because of Wallace Beery, one of the stars of Grand Hotel who, when he was 30, he dated and then married teenage Gloria Swanson and then seems to have secretly poisoned her to end her pregnancy when they were married. So not a good guy at all, very problematic.

What is your win pick for best problematic, best pick? I mean, I think that Annie Hall is a full order of magnitude better than any of those other movies. I will say this. Grand Hotel is a great movie. In terms of like... I haven't seen Grand Hotel. Big Star 30s, Hollywood kind of like... kind of like melodramatic storytelling.

It's really good. But I agree with you. Annie Hall is much better than American Beauty or Braveheart. And I think better than Grand Hotel, too. Yeah. What do you think, Stu? No, I'm with you guys. Okay.

You're not going on a limb for American Beauty? Yeah. I mean, I feel like it's funny how, like, how taken with American Beauty everybody was when it came out and also Braveheart. But also, I think that Annie Hall has a lot of sort of quiet influence that maybe people don't think about because it's, again, a comedy and people don't take them as seriously. But despite the fact that spoiler alert, it's not your typical rom-com where they, like, end up happily together. Thank you for having spoilers for Annie Hall. A movie that builds a suspense to an almost unbearable peak. I think it is as responsible for like what the modern rom-com is as when Harry met Sally.

I think you don't, well, you certainly don't get when Harry met Sally without Annie Hall. And it's a movie so good that people will do some extreme mental gymnastics to justify their love. Yeah, I mean. Or their love of the work of a specific person. If only for the, if only for Diane Keaton's performance in it, rest of people. one of the true amazing legendary masters. Like, she's so good in it. And that scene where she's telling the story about her relative who died,

the, it's a, I remember as a kid watching that movie, my parents not really understanding any of the jokes in the movie, but that scene, like, there was just something about it that really, I was like, I gotta figure out what this scene means. Like, why it's in this movie, like, what is she doing in it? And it just always really captivated me. So I'm going to go with you on that one. Moving on to our next category,

best crime movie with the in the title, best picture. And the nominees are The French Connection, The Sting, the Departed, in the heat of the night, and on the waterfront. What is the best, best picture

that's a crime movie with the in the title? Well, oh, the French connection. That's the French connection. Yeah, French Connection's the best. What was the third one you said? The Departed. I'll read the nominees again.

The French Connection, the Sting, the departed, in the heat of the night and on the waterfront. In the heat of the night has two does in it. So that might give it a little leg up. I have a lot of affection for The Departed. It was a movie that was playing when my wife and I made out for one of our first time.

So like, you know, I think about it. I think about it fondly. But I mean compared to, like it's very entertaining. I think it's good. but, you know, it's not good fellas to me. No, no, it's not, it's not Scorsese's best. Yeah. Well, it's not Scorsese's best.

But it's still good. This is not a... But we're not putting it up against other Scorsese. We're putting it up against these movies. And I'm putting it up against French Connection movie. I'd like what it. And for me, French Connection, of course, has that legendary chase, but I'm not, I'm not, I'm not the biggest fan, you know? Like, it's, you know, maybe...

You got to pick one. The taboos that it's broken of, like, gritty, like, horrible cop just like we've seen it enough since then and I also like don't like that kind of

cop existing in real life so maybe that I'm gonna go departed like in the heat of the night quite a bit as too but I mean on the waterfront is great I don't like the politics on the waterfront

which is you know Ilya Kazan saying it's good that I named names but I will say the French I think I might go with the French connection only because I think it does such a good job of showing

the different details of kind of rich and poor in it or different lives the scene where it's like the bad guys are eating a fancy meal and Pope Adoyal I think is just eating a slice of pizza in a doorway or something like that. I think the details in it are so good. So I might say that one. But maybe, you know what, I may say the sting

just because it's my mom's favorite movie. You know what? I'm voting for the sting because it's my mom's favorite. That's what I'll do. She loves ragtime. Well, she loves Robert Redford. I mean, my mom had such a huge crush on Robert Redford for decades. I see you press on Newman. Oh, wow.

Our moms could have had sex with that movie in a three-s? I don't understand. It would be four-some. No, it's just the movie. The movie is just a single unit in this conjecture, I guess. I guess so, yeah. You're going to have to draw it for me, Dan.

Hold on. Look, I think there's a website where you can put that image up. So let's go to the next category. We're coming to the home stretch of the show just a few categories left. This category, best Shirley Maclean, best picture. The nominees are, the apartment. Terms of Endearment

and around the world in 80 days which of these best picture winners with Shirley Maclean at it is the best of the Shirley Maclean best pictures. I've only seen one but I really love the apartment so I'll have to say that. You should see terms of endearment.

I think you like terms of endearment. It's really good. I've only heard many puns on Terms of Endearment's name. Don't go, don't see sperms of endearment. That's a different movie. Spirms of enreement, I think. I don't know. That one I hadn't, I was familiar with.

I feel like I gotta see Terms of Enderment again. I saw it when I was younger, I really thought it was great. Like, and if a long weepy about someone dying at the end, but also just normal life happening, can make a child interested in it, it must have been pretty great. It must be a great movie, yeah. Like beaches? Like beaches. I think I'm still going to go with the apartment, but this one's a close one between those two. It's a tough one.

They're both really good movies. The apartment in terms of demerment are both really close. I think I'm going to go with the apartment also, but they're both really good. You get a little bit more Shirley MacLean, the apartment. Or maybe you get more in terms of endearment. I'm not sure. You know what?

Someone, watch both movies, tally up the amount of screen time Shirley MacLean has in both of them, send them in. But we can all agree around the world in 80 days is not winning this category. No, no, no. All right, moving on to the next category.

Best Godfather Best Picture. And the nominees are, the Godfather. The Godfather Part 2. That's it. Just two nominees in this category. Which of these godfather movies that won best picture is the best of the godfather movie best pictures. Oh boy.

I'm going to go with, I'll just say, I'm going to go with the first godfather. The Godfather part two is great, but the first godfather, I think, is magical. I think it's just one of the greatest movies ever made. Go with that, too. I mean, like, there's this, like big scope of the godfather part two that I think at the time, a lot of people are like, is this better? But I think I like the focused quality of the godfather more. You can watch the Godfather without ever seeing part two, and you're like, wow.

But if you watch The Godfather Part 2, I don't think you're like, amazing. Like, you've got to see the first one. You got to know what's going on. You know, I should give part 2 another watch because I think I only saw it like immediately after watching the first one and being like, yeah, that was good too. But not, I feel like having some space would be good for me. Yeah, you may have accidentally watched Jane Austen's Mafia. I was like, damn, this thing is so fucking funny. Like, what a weird turn that the first movie is so serious and the second one is so hilarious.

All right. So The Godfather takes it. Next category. Best, best picture you've probably never seen. And the nominees are the Broadway melody, Simeron, out of Africa, and Tom Jones. Have you seen any of these movies? I've seen Tom Jones. Okay.

I've seen none of them. I still believe out of Africa might just be a movie poster. I don't want to watch that. It shows up on the box office game pretty frequently. I'm like, oh, this was a hit. It was in the top five for a long time. For a long time. I've never seen it.

Don't know anything about it. So, Dan, which one are you going to choose? By default, I'm going to choose the one I've seen, Tom Jones, which I think is a pretty good movie. All right. I'm going to pick Cimarron because it makes me think of Spirit, Stallion of the Cimarron, a movie I have not seen either. But I remember the name. And you know what? I'm just going to pick out of Africa because I don't think I'm ever going to see it.

So I'll just throw in the more. I'm sorry, we're all out of Africa. Oh, shit. I just want a little bit. We're going to have to do it. We're doing that shit for the podcast at some point. We talked about it too much now. That would watch out of Africa.

That would be a fun. Someone was going to Sam Goody. They wanted to get the single for Toto's Africa. Oh, we're all out of Africa. That might be a fun flop TV season of. Best Picture winners none of us have seen yet. Honestly, that'd be a great idea. Pretty good.

That's a good one for Flops. Bob's versus Theater, it's the non-flops. Yeah. All right. You heard it here first. Let's do that. Stuart, don't forget that idea. That's a good idea.

Okay. We only got two categories left. It's a long night. I know I know. It's a long ceremony. Okay, this category. Best Picture, you probably forgot one best picture.

And the nominees are The English Patient, Driving Miss Daisy, Ordinary People, Gigi, and Slumdog Millionaire. These are movies you may have forgotten one best picture. I thought you were going to put the artists in there. Oh, the artists may show up.

Okay. Which one of these is the best picture you probably forgot one best picture? Wait, same again. Again, the nominees are The English patient, driving Miss Daisy. ordinary people

Ziji and Slumdog Millionaire Have you guys You guys have just seen at least Some of these movies Yes yes I've seen I think I've seen

Slumdog Millionaire And driving Miss Daisy And like I guess Seans from Gigi And you've never seen You never saw the English patient Yeah I'm surprised

I never saw the English patient I would figure You were the right age At the time To just see every movie that that was coming out Yeah That just seemed like

It just That was like It was really long Miramax Like I don't know I saw that movie in the theaters. This happens sometimes when I listen to Blank Check

and they're doing the box office game and movies will come and they're like, I don't know what that is. And it'll be like, I remember seeing that movie in the theaters. Oh, yeah. They were talking about a... Ray Fines lets it hang out. Pure luck. They were talking about pure luck.

And they were like, we don't know what is this. I'm like, you don't know pure luck. I saw it when it was in the American classic. No, I mean, I didn't laugh once the entire movie. Yeah, you're yelling at your phone. So what's your vote? What's your vote? This is hard, like...

or something. I don't really like Slumdog Millionaire. I would go so far as I don't like it. It said it was the best movie released that year. Let me look up what movies it be. What movies is it objectively better than, according to the Academy? Let's see.

I think. Well, actually, that was a week year. Okay, the other nominees that you for Best Picture were the curious case of Benjamin Button, which is not a good movie. Ugh, dog shit. The reader, a movie I fell asleep during. Milk, good movie. Milk, I guess.

Which is good, but not great. It should have been, if those nominees, I would have given it to milk. I think milk would be the best of it. What was the last one you said? Frost Nixon. Oh, no, no. I think it's fine. It's okay.

No, I think that movie sucks. I think that movie sucks. I think it's really weird how they're like doing all these like fake documentary interviews with the actors playing characters. Like, I hate that shit. So would you rather, would you rather, would you rather vote what was your, what you think was the best picture? I'll vote for milk. Can I vote for that? No, let's say of the top five movies of that year, 2008.

Let's see. What was, that was the year that, oh, you know what, but it would have been the previous year, right? Because Slumdog Millionaire did come out in 2007. I was getting mixed up because it's like the year is really the, no, it came out in 2008. Anyway, that was the year that everyone was mad that the Dark Knight was not nominated for Best Picture.

Oh, okay. So let's say, instead, let's go to, what's the best movie of 2008 according to the highest grossing films, number one through five, number one, the Dark Knight, number two, Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull, second most profitable movie the year. three, Kung Fu Panda, four, Hancock,

and five, Mamma Mia. So you got to pick for you. Yeah, not either choose for the original nominees. Mama Mia might get in there. Yeah, no, I knew that was a dark horse for you, Stuart. Which is what the Dark Night ride. And I'm going to say,

from the original nominees, I think I'm going to say, I might say the English patient, to be honest. Or maybe ordinary people. Nah, I think the English patient. But, yes, I feel like, I actually, I would probably say ordinary people is the one that I forget one. I am sure that the racial politics would horrify me now. I remember when I saw it driving Miss Daisy as a kid,

it was a sweet, funny movie with two really strong performances. I will say, when I was putting this category together, the two that I forgot the most won best picture were driving Miss Daisy and Slumdog Millionaire. I was like, driving Miss Daisy went best picture? I forgot about that. Whereas I always remember that Gigi did because I think it's the year that Ferdigo,

What the fuck is Gigi? It would have been nominated that year if it was nominated. And I'm like, oh, Vertigo is such a more amazing movie, you know. Yeah. And it's less about how you should thank heaven for little girls. Yes, exactly. You should not thank heaven for little girls unless you're the father of a little girl, in which case thank heaven for that little sweetie pie.

You know what? I forgot it was Bruce Beresford who directed Driving Miss Daisy. You guys seen Breaker Morant, right? What a movie? No. What was it about a guy named Breakram Rant? Well, there's a guy named Break a Moran. But it's about these three soldiers in the fight.

It's Australian soldiers fighting in the Boer War are being scapegoated for a massacre, I think. And they're on court martial. And it's the guy, their lawyers trying to prove why they're not, why they couldn't have done it when they're responsible. It's really good. So, yeah, that's my right. We don't do recommendations on the minis, but I guess my recommendation today is. Breaker Morant.

Yeah. If you're a dad, you're going to love Breaker Moran. It's a good dad movie. Historical. It's kind of a war movie, kind of not a war movie. Awesome. All Australia. Okay, finally.

Oh, this is it, guys. This is the final category of the night. This is the biggest one, the one all of Hollywood is waiting for, holding their breath. We're all, like, kind of tired and a little loopy. Exactly. The band's just ready to play them off. This is Best, Best Picture. All the movies named Best Picture are the best movie of the year, chosen by the Academy Words.

So by definition, the winner of Best Best Picture would be the greatest movie of all time. Okay. And your nominees are Argo, Crash. The Artist, Green Book, Coda, and Birdman. What is the best, best picture? These are all best picture winners. Which one of them is the greatest movie? I'm going to go with Coda, because it's the one of those that doesn't, like, just actively make me kind of angry in some way.

It's not the best picture that was put out that year. I guarantee you. But it's a sweet little movie, you know, it made me feel good. So I'll say Cota. I feel like Argo, at least, is like kind of a. intense, like, thriller. Disqualified for me for, like, how many times they say Argo, fuck yourself, as if it's the funniest joke. And if you say it more and more when we get funnier.

But, yeah, I think I have to pick that because, yeah, that's the one I don't actively hate. Yeah, okay. Well, I think I am going, I think I would also pick Argo, a movie I thought was fine compared to the other ones. I think Cota is fine. I think it's a good little movie. The artist is not a bad movie. the artist is a fun little movie. What movie? What's it called?

It's called the artist. It's a mostly silent film starting a franchise. There's a dog in it. It's a movie, right? It is a movie. A lot of people forget it exists. And it's, I can like,

it was nominated for an Academy Award. Yeah, you can watch it on all major platforms, probably. It was not only nominated for Academy, but it won Best Picture. Best Picture of the Year. It's called The Artist? It's called The Artist. Okay, if you say so. So I think, yeah, I think

I also, I didn't remember, I mean, originally I wasn't planning to vote in any of these. So, like, I was like, hey, ha, ha, I'm going to make Dan and Stewart vote for one of these movies. This category sucks. It reminds me of things that are bad and I hate. Yep, yep. And so I think we're going to, I'll throw my weight behind Argo, too, I guess. What did, what did Argo beat out?

Yes. So I'll tell you what Argo beat out. Let's see, it was. Let me look at it real quick. And that was just a five movie year, right? That was a big 10 movie year. Oh, shit. Oh, shit.

Okay. Argo was up against Amor. I haven't seen that. Beasts of the Southern Wild. Okay. Django Unchained. Okay. Life of Pie.

Okay. Lincoln. Okay. Le Miz. Okay. Silver linings playbook. Yep. And zero dark 30.

Okay. I've not a strong year. Yeah, I've seen very few of those movies. I would go with Lincoln from those. I honestly would probably go with Silver Linings Playbook. Yeah. That's another one I like. Yeah.

two ruins. Oh man, fucking Cota won over Power of the Dog. That's some bullshit. That's fucking crazy. Well, yeah, looking at the Cota year. So it's a Cota one. Cota was up against Belfast, which is great.

Don't look up. Drive my car. Yeah. King Richard, licorice pizza, Nightmare Alley, the Power of the Dog, and West Side Story. And I would probably give it to either Belfast or the Power of the Dog.

I really liked Belfast. P of the Duffin rocks. Yeah. I mean, I also, I mean, I know that you have fun. I like West Side Story a lot. I still haven't seen. My car.

Drive my car is really good. I should see it, yeah. Again, no spoilers, but they do drop the fucking credits 45 minutes into the movie. That's fucking crazy. Just like RRR. And I genuinely despised licorice pizza. Wow. So I'm glad that didn't win.

Because they didn't like it much. And you know what? Like, there's some really good stuff in West Side Story. Yeah, there is. Some great stuff in West Side Story. I think it was hurt by the fact that... You got to swap in someone. That's not Ansel Alegoric for it.

I think West Side Story has heard about the fact that West Side Story already won Best Picture in the 19-6. There's already a West Side Story. But again, there's two Godfather wins, so who knows? Well, anyway, so we've established Argo is the greatest movie of all time, best, best picture winner. That's the end of our show. I want to thank so many people. I want to thank my co-host, Dan, and Stu for giving us their unvarnished opinions on some movies they've seen and some movies they haven't seen.

I want to thank our producer Alex Smith, who has hopefully edited in some music and applause and things like that. So this sounds real professional. I want to thank everyone over at Maximum Fun. That's our network. Maximum Fun. There's a lot of great other podcasts. Check I'm out. And I want to thank, there's so many people thank you. The listeners. Thank you for listening. Oh, they're starting to play my wife. I'm my managers, Tucker and Evan. Of course, my beautiful wife and my sons. Boys, I love you. You can go to bed now, okay? You don't have to stay up any longer. That's it for us. This has been a flop house mini. And join us next week when we'll be talking about a different bad movie. Goodbye, everybody.

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