The Flop House - FH Mini 76 - The Peach Pit, MFD Edition

Episode Date: March 19, 2023

Stuart takes us through another episode of "The Peach Pit," everyone's favorite after-show for The Flop House that's also just a part of the regular Flop House.Come see us at The Bell House, on April 2!Become a supporting member, at https://maximumfun.org/join/

Hey, that's right. Welcome back to this is another episode of The Peach Pit. Everybody's favorite fan podcast about the number one podcast about bad movies. That's right. The flop house podcast. So welcome to the Peach Pit. I'm your host Stuart Wellington. And joining me, I have two really great guests today. Again, I have the two original peaches. I have a part Dan, part cop, part machine, all podcasts, you're Dan McCoy. Hey, Dan, thanks for joining us. He's only part. Hey, I feel like, you know, you've had us back enough times that there's diminishing returns as are, as the specialness of us being guests on this holy different show from the flop house that exists entirely separate from our feed.

I don't follow, but we have another guest. It's not just you today, Dan. We have another guest today and it is the man whose love of of movies is so old that even dreams and black and white. That's right. Elliot Kaylen. Elliot, thanks for joining us. Stuart, thank you so much for having us again on the peach bed i've got to say

i've got really exciting news i want to share with everybody specifically for this episode of the peach bed dan i know you want to say something i can see it in your eyes but i'm going to take a moment and it keep you hanging on the precipice of almost saying a word much like the kid in uh... in the phantom toll booth in that one scene anyway there's that way there's an edging sequence in the phantom toll booth in that one scene. Anyway, there's that weight. There's an edging sequence in the Phantom toll booth. No, not exactly. I've got exciting news. Dan, Stu, do

you know what time of year it is? No. It's Max Fun Drive time. It's Max Fun Drive time. Technically, Max Fun Drive starts on Monday, May 20th. This episode drops two days before, but you're probably not going to listen to it the day of Max Fun Drive starts on Monday, May 20th. Last until Friday, May 31st, I was just so excited about it. I had to start talking about it with this episode also because of our release schedule. Max fund drive is the time of the year when we the flop house podcast and all the podcasts on the max fund network come to you, the listener hat in hand and say, thank you, my most beautiful

beloved for being such a wonderful generous and supportive audience. Can you please keep us going with regular infusions of cash? If you're a long time listener, you know how Max Fund Drive works. You go to maximumfund.org slash join, you choose how much money you'd like to pay per month to keep the flop house alive, and then it happens. The money goes to us and the flop house keeps going. If you haven't done it before, please go do it right now. Right now, while you're listening to this, don't wait around.

Go to maximumfund.org slash join right now, because let me tell you, the entertainment market is dire right now. Right now while you're listening to this, don't wait around. Go to maximumfund.org slash join right now because let me tell you the entertainment market is dire right now and Dan and I really need it. Stewart not so much. He's a small business owner, backbone of the American economy, but Dan and I, who, Golly, the wolf is at the old door there. I'm just kidding mostly. Anyway, later in the show, I'll tell you more about the kinds of cool stuff you get from going to maximumfund.org slash join and pledging your monthly support for maximum fund and maximumfund.org slash join and pledging your monthly support for MaximumFun and MaximumFun.org slash join. You get bonus audio content, gift packages, most of all warm fuzzy feeling from knowing that in today's world of corporate-owned cookie cutter content, you've made it possible

for us to continue putting out this unique, artist-owned, bonkers, nonsense bullshit. So go now to MaximumFun.org slash join and make a monthly pledge for as little as $5 a month that's very little money in the grand scheme of things. You will be so happy that you did. So Stuart, thank you for having us on the peach bit so I could talk about that and I'll continue that message later in the show. Yeah, thanks, Elliot. Thanks for bringing up and thanks for mentioning the word bullshit because we got a lot

of it coming up. Well, did we go, I want to say, well, I wrote down why I wanted to say, which I'll show you that I wrote down. When you're introducing Elliot, you said that his love of movies is so old, suggesting that the love is the old thing, which I would, I mean, I would say that the love probably doesn't predate Elliot. Who is? I mean, the love of movies, I'm pretty, I'm pretty,

I'm pretty, so that my love of movies says at least, it's literally six years old. I would say, yeah, your love of movies is approaching middle pretty weird. So that my love of movies says at least, what do you say six years old? I would say, yeah, your love of movies is approaching middle age, whereas you do love old movies. I'm just, you know, let's do love it. I don't want the FCC to come after us, Stewart for the lies that we've been telling. I'm not gonna talk the great things about.

Yeah, no, of course. One of the great things about being on the Maximum Fun Network, the FCC can't do shit about what we do. We're not on the public air. Wow. Guys. FCC. I'm fucking fucking fucking fucking cooperation.

It's a bunch of bucks. Cool. So anyway, I apologize that this is the heart of the me that I've ever been and the worst I've ever been on a maximum drive episode. And that's the thing, even though you're a villain, I assume that I'm supposed to sympathize with you. Yeah, because you're presented in the media.

Yeah, yeah. So you have no choice but to assume that the author agrees with everything I'm saying, yeah. Mm-hmm. So, Dan, thanks for calling out a misspeaking on my part. That's great.

And that's very fitting with this podcast. So normally the peach bit we take it up. So it goes, who's the damn now dog? Cause you said, the one who's miss speaking to me. And I'm not the dog now, Dan. When, which, who's Dan's dog now?

The steward is. We steward reminds me, when ste Stewart throws it back in my face. I feel bad about it. I just think a word. Polish grandmother taught me well. Yeah. So now normally here on the Peach Bit, we take an episode of the Flop has podcast and go moment by moment and blow by blow and talk about our favorite bits.

But this is a very special episode. As Elliot has mentioned, it's during the Max Fun drive. So this episode of the Peach Pit is not just the Peach Pit. This is the Peach Pit Requiem, the rise of the Peach Pit. Okay, it's a very special episode. And because I have my two favorite podcasters with me, I'm going to ask you a bunch of questions sent in by listeners of the beach bit to really pick your brains and really get a picture of who these two peaches are and three beaches because I'm a

peach too. Keep track. Okay. So that was it. That was a shocking twist. The steward is not just the host of the beach bit of also one of the hosts of the flop house. The podcast of the beach bit is about it's the beach bit is complicated. Okay.

It's like if instead of Chris Hardwick hosting the talking daddy hosted talk midnight, a show that follows At Midnight and talks about what happened in that episode of At Midnight. I mean, he might do this because aren't they bringing At Midnight back with I'm assuming very much with him, very much. Yeah, yeah, I presume that after it would be it would be weird. It would be a bad choice, but you know, people would talk and I guess any publicity is good publicity, right, guys? Yeah. That's what they say.

No, that was ironic again. I was doing it again. Well, that's a cool thing because if who's, who's, who's comedy central putting it on this time? Because they normally don't have to be on CBS. Oh, weird. Because normally I was going to say it would make sense for comedy central to make a mistake because they only make good choices when it comes to their entertainment, right?

Only good choices. Yeah, but what a miscalacitist. A short stinger moment. But I'm like, Stuart's always, this flop out podcast is always, I've noticed this is a peach minute, the flop out podcast is always experimenting with new ways to wreck Dan and May's careers ahead of time by alienating powerful buyers. I didn't do anything.

I'm just a stinker. Okay. Hands off. Hands off. He's absolved by the stinker. Your honor, I'd like to submit a writ of he's a stinker. Yeah. Sustained.

All the cases dropped. They're vacated. Yeah, I'm exonerated dropped. All kinds of things. Vacated. Yeah, I'm exonerated on grounds of being a stinker. So, you guys just mentioned, as you guys just moaned and complained for moments, you guys are both on a work. So, what I would like, what I, and what our listeners want to know is, what's a day in

the life of a podcaster like you, Dan, what do you do on a regular work day, on a podcaster day? Um, I mean, I would love to talk about this because my greatest fear when I'm asking you for money is that people are like, he's a podcaster. What the, he's, why, why am I, and don't think about it too hard, just go to maximum fun to have a hard worry slash join. No, I put a lot of work into

The podcast as do we all I a lot of what I do during the day actually is right now is on my own projects I'm trying to get a book off the ground. I have a book We just like a ladder or just hurling it into the air How to see anyone do it? Guys, I've been to the library. I'm like, oh, this is all great for the 1% who can forward someone like a book toach to take their books home.

But how am I to do it? I'm your man. Your floor is covered with books. And the only way you know how to move them is to just nudge them with your foot. I just take them along. I just take them along. That's a classic 20-stuart style apartment layout is stacks of books on ground.

So there's that. I mean, I sometimes do some freelance stuff. I don't know. I don't, like, a lot of my time is with weird like stuff that relates to just the runnings of the show, but I was not prepared to answer this question. So it's all going blank. Right? I love Dan's inability to answer questions,

post to him on this phone. Why don't you, why don't you pick it up? What's you, I feel like you have a probably a little more complicated life than stewarder Dan. Well, that's, that's your exactly right because I have two small human beings that rely on me and my wife for their entire livelihood. And I assume it seems all their entertainment and all the stimulation they need throughout the day.

And so my day usually begins probably around 4, 430 or 5 AM when my youngest child walks into the room and announces that he's having trouble sleeping and he wants to sleep on the mattress that's in our room on the floor because he comes in and sleeps on it all the time. And we say, okay. Also another feature of a classic Stewart, Stewart Wellington 20s apartment is mattress on floor. You were really, it was a very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very,

I remember. I remember in high school, I had a friend who was a few years older than me who graduated from high school before me. And he lived in an apartment where in his bedroom, it was a mattress on the floor and then like just piled up magazines and roleplaying books. And the magazines were either like like cheap pornography or reptiles magazines. And at the time, I was like, this is living. This is the biggest dream I've ever met. So the small child, sometimes they'll just walk into the room

in the middle of the night and announce that he has to go to the bathroom and then go to the bathroom by himself because he doesn't need us anymore. He's old enough to do that, but he needs to announce it and get permission in the middle of the night. Anyway, I do the same thing now. Then I wake up for good a little bit later, get my kids stuff ready for school.

Some days I drive them to school, some days my wife does. And then when I get back, it is the work of a working writer who is trying to get work writing. And so there's a lot of coming up with ideas, sketching out ideas, scheduling pitches, pitching projects, those projects not getting bought, me wondering why even do this, entering a deep depression, that I'll storm cloud over my head, then I come up with another idea, I say this is my million dollar idea, I start working on that pitch, and also I'm working on a book about joke writing that will hopefully

come out in what, 2024 at some point, maybe 2025. And, you know, doing various comic book things too, as well. Elliott is putting his finger on the trouble that I have with defining my work, which is that like, my work is so diffuse and hard to describe in any way that doesn't make it sound just like sitting around and staring off into space, which a lot of it is. And just the time, time is spent thinking. And working on. What I find is I am often working on anywhere from five to eight projects, but most of those projects are not paying projects yet.

There are things that I hope to say. You're doing it on the spec. And so you enter this realm where you're like, is this real? Or is it not real? Am I, am I like, how is this different from a mad man in a castle somewhere? It's kind of scrolling on the walls of the dungeon

that he's been imprisoned in, you know, with his own pieces. You start thinking like, why are my thoughts more important? Why do I feel like I need to put them on paper and other people need to respond to them in some way? Why am I feel like I need to put them on paper and other people need to respond to them in some way. Why am I so good? Who do I think I am? Speaking of which, I spent most of the day, I just remembered the thing that I was doing today. I don't know why I forgot. Basically all the day today was working on the presentation for our live show coming

up in April at the Bellhouse and right both right and second. April second at the Bellhouse. April, April second Sunday 7th, 3rd PM April second at the Bellhouse in New York. Just go to the Bellhouse's website, which I believe is what the bellhouse ny.com for tickets. Yes. And I was, you know, both right. We want to be talking about Battlefield Earth, one of our most requested movies to talk

about. I was both writing it. Do you want to be talking about Battlefield Earth, one of our most requested movies to talk about? Both writing and putting together the images, which I have now gotten so granular and perfectionist about and wanting to really make these images that people are going to see essentially one time briefly in a series of slides, really, because I don't know, that's the work that you put into it, because if you can't find the joy in it, then why are we doing it, I guess, even though many other podcasts, and I'm not throwing shade on them, I'm just saying how it's dumb that we do it, and we hope you appreciate it. Many podcasts just get up on stage and talk,

but we put in the work to this visual element that can be quite a thing. So Stuart, I'm glad you asked that question. It led to this descent into unhappiness and complaining that we can have. Where we openly questions the worth of our work, even as we are asking our audience to go to maximumfund.org slash join and throw money at the work, or not throw money. It is funny. What's also funny is that neither of my two friends asked me what I do in my day. So that's a really good question. I usually wake up. When you said you were the host

of the show, we were your guests. I didn't realize that we were also co-hosting and going to interview you. But what do you do during your day? Well, that's part of being an act of listener, Ellie, is making that for me. For the first time you're talking to me. Usually a guest on say Conan O'Brien show doesn't say, and Conan, what did you do? What did you do? Yeah, yeah. Well, they never say, what did you do to die today at a minute or two to two, Conan?

Yeah, they definitely don't stumble that way. Yeah, they also don't ask him how he spent his time. But I mean, Stuart, with Conan on the line of the show, what did you do today? If you had the option, if you had the chance, one chance, would you take it? Would you ask Conan Nobbrine what he did that day? I guess, but I'm not like Paul Rudd there to... Yeah, Paul Rudd's not like so Conan. What do you mean? Any projects you've got coming up? You're not. People's sexiest male live, Paul Rudd there to get Paul Rudd's not like so called to me. Any projects you've got you're not people's sexiest male live Paul Rudd.

Yeah. Okay. Um, well, so I do do do you do? Yeah. I, uh, I stretch for about 30, 40 minutes. I drink my juices and my coffee and then I go to the gym. I have a bad back. So I have to stretch it.

Then I go to the gym for about an hour and a half mainly weightlifting. I come home, make a breakfast, watch some late-night television, but in the morning, that's weird, right? I think that's how most people consume it. That's why you're the Batman villain backwards man. That's all you do is watch late-night shows on the opening. Then after after doing that, I hit the treadmill, take a shower, and then I spend my afternoon, usually at one of the bars I own, checking inventory, helping out, making sure everything's running smooth. And then that evening, who knows? World's my oyster. Maybe I'll go to the movies. Maybe I'll do a podcast of my friends. Who knows? So that's a day in the life of the podcast.

The podcast recording. The podcast recording is usually scheduled. So you do know, oh, yeah, that's true. Sometimes I know. Sometimes, like today, I throw together the last minute. Okay, so that's a day in the life of the podcaster. That's great. Now, the flop house, guys. So the flop house, we watch and review bad movies. Yeah, you have to. We've been doing it for, if that's the premise, we've been doing it for about 15 years.

If you have a, now I'm sure there's been times where you're like, watch a bad movie and talk about it. What a way to waste my life. Now if there was another, if there was another topic, I feel like we've answered this before on the show. Is there another topic that if you couldn't do a movie about a movie, if you can do a podcast about movies, is there another topic you would like to do a podcast on? So all movies are out.

All movies are out. I guess unless you have, unless you have a twist on the movie premise that is untapped as of yet. No, could I do a deep dive? I mean, hold on. We're gonna do it. It's a fantasy world. Is television fine?

Is television fine? Television's fine. Yeah, I would do a deep dive. No, if you said you were gonna do a movie podcast, I would climb through the computer like Sadoco and kill you. I would, I would do a deep dive into Jim Hanson's lesser known television projects. You know, we're talking, I mean, not like super, they don't have to be super lesser. So we're just, we're just, we're just storyteller would be like the peak of like known that

will be allowed. Is Emma Potter in there? Uh, I think Emma and Otters too well known, but what we would definitely get into is the Jim Henson Hour, which we package a lot of storyteller with a new version of the Muppets, working at a cable TV station.

Maybe we talk about the terrible sketches he did for Saturday and live. So basically you're taking one of the one of your heroes, one of your idols whose work you love deeply, it means a lot to you. And you're like, let's troll through the stuff he did that wasn't as good. So I can be fun. I mean, the Saturday and the stuff definitely wasn't as good. You got to bleed.

I love both halves of Jim Hansenauer. I thought that that was something most interesting stuff and I thought like, even though he was not sort of, you know, the Muppets were up and down in terms of how much money they were making anyone, and that was maybe him like finally a little bit that way, but it was definitely some of his more creative stuff. I feel like I wish he had lived longer

so I could have seen where he took it. That story teller episode where the soldier wins the card game with the devils and gets the ability to see death and puts death in a sack and ties them up in a tree. Like I think about that story. I think I saw it once when I was a kid and I think about it frequently, you know, not a day. I don't know, I bet not a month's gone by that I haven't thought about that story teller. Anyway, you had some questions, young man. Yes, Kane, his last word, Rosebud, that no one was around to hear what it didn't mean. Well, it's interesting you say no one was around to hear it because the character in the movie says I heard him say it, but other people say, well, I didn't see him in that shot, but I'm going to trust the movie on this one.

Yeah. That's one of those. Interesting. There's a Cicc and Kane podcast that I was listening to recently where they're like, the character says he was in the room, but when you look at the shot, you don't see him in the room. And I'm like, come on, let's just, let's just go with the movie tells me like, like, I mean, what is it called?

The Sincane podcast called, is it called Kanecast? No, this one's called The Sincane Minute, although they each episode talks about five minutes. Oh, okay. Not one. Because I feel like if you call it Kanecast, people might assume it's based on the collection of short stories by Jean Tumer. Oh, I thought if they've said, yeah, the book can you're saying, this one of Stuart Stewart's two.

I think every now and then Stuart Stinker, everything in that now, and then Stu will mention Kane by Jean Tumer, and it's the reference I never expect from him, even though he's done it a couple times. But I think a lot of people I think would think a cane cast is just a cane you get when you're in a cast. That's true. That would be a cast for your cane in case you break your cane and you have to get a cast and it's like doctor that cane's not going to heal. It's not organic. It's a cane review. That's cast.

That wood was living at one point, but no longer it has been carved. You shall act. Well, I made it a zombie first so that it'll heal and then it's a zombie cane. Zombie. That makes sense. That makes sense. That makes sense. That makes sense. zombie cane zombie. That makes sense. That makes sense. One more question. What's my new question? Why am I asked you?

I'm sort of a wizard. That's a secret. That's a secret. That's a secret. I mean, fantasy columbos would 100% be a wizard, right? I don't I don't know that he's a wizard. I think he's a he's a wizard. I think he's a, he's a frumpy guy who, who, who interviews wizards. Oh, warm tongue says here, you work for a Soran,

maybe you're something. I don't remember. Sorry, I'm on. Yeah. Sorry. He could probably be. No, I work for Soran. Who works for Sorana? We're being on hierarchy here in the, you could be like a hobbit or something. The organization. He could be a hobbit or something. A wizard's too high status for Columbus. Yeah, he would have a clubbo and be like, but that's the thing. Yeah, he's like a hobbit and everybody drops their guard around him.

And that's how he gets them. Exactly. Yeah. So that makes sense. So just one last thing though, are you going to sing a song we throw my dishes around? Because Mrs. Colomo doesn't like that. I know, I specifically unchecked that, that box on GrubHub. I don't like that that box comes free checks when I hire a bunch of adventures that

be thrown my dishes around while singing a song box comes free checks and I have to opt out of it. That shouldn't be fair. Yeah, well, it's said very plainly on the website. You should just check it more clearly. But one more, that makes sense. That makes sense. You know not everybody reads that agreement. They just got to scroll down to the end and they write a click-okay, because we've got a lot of time on our hands. Yeah. If you expect to be able to read it, you wouldn't put it in Kwenia, not Centaur. I mean, come on.

So one of the things that Columbus known for is having a collection of great guest stars. be able to read it, you wouldn't put it in Kwenia and not Centaurin. I mean, come on. So one of the things that Columbus known for is having a collection of great guest stars. And so is the flop-out podcast. You guys have had some really great guests on the show. My question to you is, do you have any dream guests to be on the podcast. I mean, I'll be honest, like my dream guest was having Joel Hachun on because, you know, like, yeah, he can't like this kind of thing. Yeah, without, and it was just, it was so nice to have that finally happen. But let me think about something else. I've vamped a long time.

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Stu, I'm sorry, I'm too heated up. Can you take over? This is, I'm just too mad about this. Yeah, whoa, whoa, whoa, Alex, add in a spooky time distortion sound effects here. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, everybody, guys, we've just become unstuck in time. Boogie time distortion sound effects here. Whoa! Oh no! Everybody, guys, we've just become unstuck in time. The flop house exists in all times everywhere, even times before the flop house normally existed. That's right, because the flop house normally reviews recently released bad movies.

What if the flop house existed at different times? What movies would they cover? What I need you guys to do is decide which of these three movies from these different years would make perfect time, perfect flop house movies. Oh, nobody hard for me because as we know, my love of movies is old. Yep. Yeah. We've, we've left. Yeah, I trust that at the beginning of the plug-in episode. Yeah, I trust that at the beginning of the plug and episode. Well, no, we've landed in the year 1984. Our options are Cannonball Run 2, Conan, the destroyer or rhinestone. Which of those three do you think would make a good flop house movie?

Um, look, I know that... Every answer Dan gives always starts with a sigh and home, a sigh, and then look at the is he is dreading the disappointment. He's going to drive. I've realized that the problem with a lot of my thinking, my negative thinking is I start from a place of like, okay, let's eliminate the bad. Yeah. Rather than like, no, but I mean, I just like look Stuart.

I know that you're a big fantasy head. Conan, for me, feels the least fertile there. I was very excited at first when I heard Cannonball run two, a movie that I remember being on television a lot when I was a kid, but I remember nothing about other than the louvers. Do you remember Jackie Chan is in it? Because I know that's a hard thing to do. Jackie Chan is in both Cannibal Run and Cannibal Run 2. I believe. Okay.

So you're Jackie Chan. I believe it's not a lot of fun. I couldn't be wrong. I couldn't be wrong. I don't remember Cannibal Run 2, but I just recently watched the first one. It's wild that he plays a Japanese character. Yes. And he didn't find out until like after they made the movie.

Yeah. That is. That's unfortunate. Yeah, that is racism at its not finest, because that would, no, but I would, I would go with Reince Stone movie that I recall seeing is baffling and has so many points of entry for us, whether they be a love of Dolly Parton or Elliot's fascination with Mr. Stallone. I am fascinated with him, yeah.

Yeah. Ryan Stone is one of those movies that I mean, I've never seen it, but it's one of those movies that it's such a go to punchline that there are times that I'm like, is this, is it a real movie? is it a real movie? Like, is it a real thing? And it must, but it's like, it's the flip side of out of Africa, which in our many about best picture winners, I was like, is this a real movie, this movie like, or is it? So it's a, you know, I'm just curious about it.

So we might have to do rhinestone at some point. Yeah, especially because of a door you don't want to go through. Well, because we did, we've done one of the other punchline movies. We did an episode on Ishtar. Yeah. And we're about to do a live show on April 2nd about Battlefield Earth. So yeah, I feel like this rhinestone is a natural one. Oh, wait a minute.

Oh, we're not in 1984 anymore. We've just landed in 1979. Oh, wait a minute. Oh, we're not in 1984 anymore. We've just landed in 1979. Oh, no, which of these three movies would make a good flop house movie. We have, it wasn't as big a jump as I thought you were going to make. We have the nude bomb, Saturn III or Zanadu. Okay. So one year old Dan is in the theater watching all of them. Oh, so we're going at the age we were at So my I was still swimming in my dad's balls To the movie So so basic so Stuart so a one year old and Stuart and my dad's

Scrodoms are going to the movies together So here's what I'm not technically a movie character But maybe Dan will draw that for you if you if if you went to the ref, well, by becoming a Max Fun member. Now as per Visoi number one, you think I would go for the nude bomb. However, I happen to know that that is a get smart movie. Yeah. It is not as salacious as it sounds. Yeah. You didn't you looked it up and it's you're like it doesn't say sexual situations. I didn't look it up now, but I won't say that I never looked up. What's this movie?

The Newton. Um, I honestly, for a visual, you'd probably want to go to a Saturn three because I think doesn't. What fairfoss that appear briefly topless in that. Wow. This is the first time you've out, Mr. Skin, me on one of these. Oh, man. Oh, wow.

Yeah. Yeah. Because that's a movie I see in your armor. But I only saw Saturn III on Monster Vision on TNT. And so I don't know if that's actually the case because they would have cut out all that. But I've seen Saturn III. I would not go with Saturn III though, because I feel like science fiction of that period

that was not good science fiction is just slow science fiction. So I would go for Xanadu, a movie that I kind of like actually, but would have a lot of fun things to talk about. Yeah. Yeah. Sanadu would probably be the most things to talk about. Yeah. Yeah, Sanity would probably be the most fun to talk about. And, you know, and it's, I mean, any movie based on my favorite Samuel Taylor Co. Ridge poem is gonna be exciting for me. Yeah, yeah.

You got a roller skating, you got an animation, you got to see a talent. Technically, that poem I think is called Cooblecon, but still it is, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You won't know where I was securing three beef and dairy all day. Max Fun Drive. Hey, Chef, we got another securing three people daily all day.

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every Wednesday on maximumfund.org or wherever you download podcasts. Whoa, wait a minute. Oh, we're springing forward. We have landed in the year 1992. Whoa, the year one, BJP before Jurassic Park. Does the flop house review stop or my mom will shoot Christopher Columbus, colon the discovery or final analysis starring Richard Geer.

Ali, why don't you take this one because I jumped in fast on the first look too. I mean, I get, we've established I want to watch the movies where stuff that's, that's so that's just the alone made for some reason, where it's not completely or why he made it. So I'd have to do stop from mambo shoot. Another movie where even as a kid, I was like, what is this movie? Like what is going on?

Is it the story around that one that like Arnold tricked Stallone into doing it? That is that the one? Because I knew there was some movie where Arnold made it seem like he was going to do a movie so that Stallone would steal it out from under him. I think that's, I mean, that's the one that the story's about. I don't know whether it's a powerful one, but that's the one.

I mean, our Schwarzenegger kind of half went on the record as saying that. Yeah. But, yeah, he did that on Emily Reddakowski's part. He talked about on Emily Reddakowski's part. But that, but on the other hand, I just read a whole book recently about the Marks Brothers early years where they made it clear that almost every story the March Brothers told about their early years, even in their memoirs, was totally either misremembered or made up. So it's always possible that it didn't happen.

No, there's such good stories. They are great stories, Dan, that they're very, I mean, and the thing is a lot of the true stories are just as good, but they, I don't know why they told mixed up stories. So the Columbus, I feel like is going to be pretty boring, probably, right? Probably. Yeah. And what was the third option that went

of final analysis? So is that a real movie or did you make that up using like magnetic poetry kids or something? I did not make it up. It's an erotic thriller star Richard Geer. And who else is in that one? Let's hit the old internet movie database. Is it Kim Basinger in that one? Let's hit the old internet movie database. Is it Kim Basinger?

And then you're right. Yeah. I think I would. I think I'd go with that one because, you know, a bad 90s thriller, even when they're Eric Robbins is in it. I get a kick out of them. I feel like yeah, 90s thrillers, especially 90s erotic thrillers usually have some, there's something good in there usually.

Oh, this is the same, this is the same director who made Heaven's Prisoners. Oh. So, and also the American version of the Seven Up films. So just an interesting career that this director Phil, Joe, no, has no, there was an American version of the seven up. Apparently there is. So wait, the seven up films, those are the ones where they like, they, it's a documentary or something about people seven years. Yeah, they follow, they start out as seven year olds and then every seven years. Yeah, they follow them every seven years. And the series has outlived Michael Apptid, who the director of the series at this point.

But yeah, this, I guess they only did, they only did two installments. Okay. And for the American one. So, okay. So I guess you never know what happened to his random kids. Exactly. Game canceled due to the lack of interest at that point. Yeah.

Oh, no, wait a minute. We're, well, the time for next continues. And we are landing in the future. The year is 2024. And we're watching big movies that were released in 2023. Is the flop house going to cover Tetris? Uh-huh. Transformers, Colin, rise of beasts or Meg too. They're not doing it. They're doing another Transformers with rise of the title. Is that really what you make it up? Cause I know Tetris is real.

No, these are all real. These are totally real. Tetris. It's the story of the, is it the story of the making of Tetris? Yes. And getting it out of Russia, I guess, where it was conceived. I mean, like that seems actually vaguely interesting to me. I mean, I can see a number of ways in which it's not done as well as it could be,

but it seems like it could be interesting. I give you the first one. Like if the blocks are all woke or something? Well, no, I mean, like the tone of it. But when Stuart says something and then puts his hand over his mouth and wheels back away from the microphone, it's up to another favorite student. That's right up there with the referencing cane by Jean Tumer and my favorite Stuart moves. Again, Stuart is playing an ironic heel of an internet pointer.

I mean, Tom. No, no, no, more than more than my fear would be more. New character Stu Tara Wellington. It's too hard. It's too hard. It's too hard. It's too hard. It's too hard.

It's too hard. It's too hard. It's too hard. It's too hard. It's too hard. It's too hard. It's too hard. It's too hard. It's too hard. It them. Yeah. It looks like a kind of a, you know, semi-ironic a docu-drama and like I've liked stuff like in that vein before, like say the

informant where it's kind of got this kind of loopy comedy to go along with this zane, each true life story, but I feel like if they get the tone wrong, it can be insufferable and that's a hard tone to get. But okay, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, and Wheatley. What? No, Ben Wheatley, the director of a field of England. Oh, I read many news. Oh, I read many news. Oh, I read many news.

Oh, I read many news. Oh, I read many news. Oh, I read many news. Oh, I read many news. Oh, I read many news. Oh, I read many news. Oh, I read many news. Oh, I read many news.

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all the weird. Now, he's a director who, with the exception of Kill List, I think all of his movies, I like the idea more than the actual movie. Like there's always, like I feel like, certainly a field in England, I'm like, I can't do this anymore. I was, see, I feel that I'm feeling the England is right up my alley. That's where I am in my life right now. I was like, this is exactly what I wanted.

But I think it's free fire. I'm like, free fire. I'm like, okay, after 60 minutes, I'm like, okay, we can tap out. This is enough. I think I, you know, I tapped tapped out like within five minutes on Free Fire. I did not, I just did not seem like I was going to enjoy it. I didn't like kill lists as much as everyone, but I was like, this is interesting. I'm very curious about field in England.

I haven't seen that one. I mean, I haven't seen Free Fire. I mean, of the movies I've seen of this, field in England is the one I like the most, but I could see why Stewart would like kill this more than a field of England. So I think, but then the other one is trans and transformers, is that still a, who's doing this one? I, I don't know. Mikey is Mikey Bay returning or is he? He might be, but I think he also has like a Netflix fucking deal on the way, like another Netflix like, did he do like army of the dad or whatever? I think he made.

Yeah, Transformers Reservoir is directed by Steven Kapl Jr. who did, let's see, who did Creed II. And well, let's look at top build cast. We have Academy Academy Award winner Michelle you know all-time star go okay we got Ron Pearlman playing Optimus Primal. Okay. Peter Dinklage plays Skurge. The leader of the terror. Yeah. Yeah. David Sins as the rise. Peter Dinklage. So does that change your opinion? John DiMaggio is doing the voice for a couple different robots. I mean, honestly, that cast plus having a new director, I mean, I didn't see Creed 2, people tend to like it the least out of the three creeds from what I can tell.

Yeah, because it's the least good. I don't know. Like, both of these movies, I'm like, I have no interest in, but what I'm learning about the actually slightly increased. Well, we're going to end up watching probably in three or more of them. One of my interests. I would say the Meg just because I have much more Transformers fatigue than I have Meg fatigue.

You know what? I'll kind of say the opposite because I have very fond memories of the Beast Wars cartoon that came out years ago. And where I had to get up, I was probably too old to watch anyway. I think I was in high school. And I had to get up early to watch it because in my market, it aired at like 6.30 in the morning,

but I would often get up and watch it before school. And I thought it was a pretty good Transformers cartoon, the only thing, the problem being of course that they're all animals. So it's kind of goofy. They're all different animals that transform. But, yeah, it would make way more sense

if they're transforming to cars, trucks, a gun that is the right size for another robot to hold onto. At least those are mechanical things, you know? A boob. None of it really makes sense. But as long as I could go in a ride where I am somehow protecting the all spark by just riding around slamming into things

and at the end I become an honorary transformer or something. Then I'm okay. And I managed to live. So Ellen has also been the universal studios. What a flex over here. So I bet we'll probably cover both of those movies. What do you guys think? Yeah, that's the bet I would I would place. Yeah. Okay, guys. So now we're back in the real world, the real time, 2023. Well, and everybody wants to know is how do we warn people about the horrible dystopian future of next year when the only movies available are made to that Transformers movie and what was the other and Tetris?

So we've talked about some slop. Let's talk about some fancy boy movies. Let's talk about the criterion collection. What movie do you think? What movie would you like to see added to the criterion collection? Well, I'll jump first while you guys think of it. Obviously, I'm going to say Ricky O, the story of Ricky. It's a perfect movie. It would look great. I would like a nice restoration. Although I don't know, I feel like the bootleg version I first had that had even funnier

subtitles would be the best version, but I don't think they would probably do that. They would probably get a new subtitling. Yeah, they probably have a lot of new author. I don't know off the, I don't know off the, I don't know off the, I don't know off the, I don't know off the, I don't know off the, I don't know off the, I don't know off the, I don't know off the, I don't know off the, I don't know off the, I don't know off the, I don't know off the, I don't know off the, I don't know off the, I don't know off the, I don't know off the, I don't know off the, I don't know off the, I don't know off the,

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I wonder, I mean, I have a, everyone knows I have a couple favorite movies taken, Pelin 123, Shadow of Adapten, Riddlecom, Oregon's Creek, but those movies are all readily available, and there are good DVDs of them. And I wonder, the first movie that comes to mind, I'm not sure if it's the one that would come to mind if I had a lot more time to think about it, but the first movie that comes to mind might be Martin not sure if it's the one that would come to mind if I had a lot more time to think about it, but the first movie that comes to mind might be Martin, the George Romero vampire movie, which I believe is out of print. I'm not sure. And I only ever saw it because I bought a used VHS of it years ago and the VHS was very old and the image was pretty blurry. And I would love to see a, you know, a good-looking version

of that movie. That movie has a scene in it that is always stuck with me. The main character thinks he's a vampire. He goes to a woman's house to feed on her and she's having an affair. And the guy she's with is like, I'm getting out of here. And I'm not going to tell anybody about what's happening because I don't need people to know I'm having an affair. And it was one of the, I just thought like, that's a scenario. I've never seen before of what happens when you're having an affair in a vampire show so. But it's a, it's a, it's a kind of lesser seen George from era movie that I think is

really good. You know, I have to just go back to, I have to go back to one of my foundational obsessions and say that if they had like a really good set, if they somehow managed to swing all the rights for a Mark's Brothers set, and then did a bunch of, I gave it the real treatment of giving background on all of the movies, because there are great Mark's Brothers sets out there. There's one from each of the major studios

they were associated with, but that would be pretty cool. And I also looked up, you know, there's a lot of Hitchcock films in Criterion, but they don't have, I think, from what I saw, Northby North West, which was, I think the first one I saw on the one that really kicked off just loving his suspense films. just loving his suspense films. Now, on the subject of, on the subject of physical media, do you, are there any like DVD or Blu-ray special features that you like the most? Are there specific ones? I mean, obviously, you look at me and you're like, I know what he loves. He loves all the featureettes and the extended versions of the Lord of the Rings trilogy.

He loves, watch the shit out of that. I'm crazy. Animated menus. The animated main characters. Can they be interactive menus? I would love that. Yeah. Can there be trailers for other movies

that are coming up? I'm sort of game. Maybe you can play with your remote. Like a movie again. What I always love is when there's trailers and also a very elaborate animated intro to the main menu screen. I can never skip past,

even though I've seen it open many times and don't need to watch it again. But you have to understand the value of DVD as a format, as an entire format, and all the offerings that this studio has. Yeah, yeah, he got to know, he got to know all that stuff. I do, I am like, I am a huge sucker for watching like an older DVD or like a VHS and getting to watch trailers for movies.

I'm like, fuck that movie came out. Like movies I'd completely forgotten about. It's like, it's such like a weird like, you know, where you, you bury shit and then you dig it up in 20 years, what's that called? The time capsule. Yeah, time capsule. Repression.

Or repression. Yeah. Yeah. I repression. You know, back when I thought I was gonna, you know, like when I was growing up, I wanted to be a movie director and like, you know, let it go with that dream. Uh, fine. I mean, I went to film school and I was like, oh, this has so many elements in it that I like and so many of them that aren't for me. So let me go to New York and just focus

on one of those elements that I like, rather than, uh, you know, having to be the guy in charge. But anyway, but you know, when I was into that, like, I would listen to commentaries and I would love listening to the commentaries. And now these days, the idea of listening to a full audio commentary on a movie, bathos. Other than ours. Other than ours, which you should join Max. I'm fun to hear. That's a different, it's a different thing. What we're going to be doing. Yeah, it's super different. Yeah, it's very different.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, sure. But back in the day, like I would listen to, I don't know, like P.T. Andersen talk about bookie nights for two and a half hours. Oh, listen to the whole commentary for a racer. Let's see what Arnold Schwarzenegger has to say. Well, there's something that I didn't take as much advantage of as I wish I had. And this is something that you see on Twitter sometimes is especially movie production people

or effects people talking about the behind the scenes featureettes on DVDs like a racer, where they're like, here's how we did this stunt, or here's how we pulled off this shot. And how influential that was for like our generation of people now working in the film industry, because that's how they learned about how that stuff got made. And I feel like the pre-internet era, like knowledge dispersal basically.

If you were lucky, maybe the biggest movie in the world would do a TV special where they explained how they did their special effects. Or maybe if you had HBO, you'd get to watch like, I saw that the featurette they did about the making of the HUD sucker proxy, probably 70 times when I was a kid before I ever saw the HUD sucker proxy. But like, they were like, what was that special effects magazine, like SinFX that had all the work? Yeah.

It was not easy to come by and that those DVD extras were a really good way of introducing people to the methods of film production that were available at the time. And so those are really, I wish I had dipped into those more, but that would be a cool thing to have for a lot of, a lot of older stuff.

There's a lot of older films that use special effects in a way that is not immediately noticeable, but are very much like the matte painting process, kind of different kinds of optical printing, use of model work and things like that. And it'd be really cool to have that for some older movies. And you know what, the... You know what, the... The...

So, Elliot, I made you both laugh with my recent quote-unquote discovery of YouTube. But it was the other day, like, I wanted to tell Audrey something and she's like, hold on, hold on, I gotta go do something in the other room, I wanted to tell Audrey something and she's like, hold on, hold on, I got to do something in the other room, I'll be right back. And I was like, waiting for her to talk. And I was like, okay, well, I'll just put on one of these YouTube videos. I've been hearing so much about- I've been hearing- One of the ones that I put on was about the way they use special effects in various old movies.

the way they use special effects in various old movies. Like people, they cut down the cuteness to the smallest amount. It was actually okay, because they had people guessing like how did this happen? Like what do you think they did this? And then they would have an explanation of it and it would be stuff for stuff like metropolis. And-

Can you send me the link to that if you still have it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I really, but I like started watching it. And then almost immediately I'm like, I'm like, shit, yeah. And I really, but I like started watching it and then almost immediately I'm like, I'm like, shit, this is what I was gonna do. Just waste time while Audrey's in the other room, but she's gonna wanna see.

So, but it's really fascinating, the old stuff. Yeah, I mean, there's a, there's, years ago I watched, there's a, on YouTube, there's an old movie about the making of the old HBO logo intro thing, we fly over a city and then the giant HBO logo comes out of the sky, the, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, and a bunch of things.

I was fascinated by how much work went to this. There's so much model work, there's so much intro and animation work for the laser effects. And it's just astounding. At the end, when you're inside the letters, you think it's all just computer, but it's like, no, no, no, no, no, no, because they did it like 1982 or something. Yeah.

The, like it's all hand drawn stuff. It's amazing. Yeah, the closest thing to like a, like a DVD extra that I watched lately was after watching the, the new gear model Toro Pinocchio, which was one of my favorites of the year, there's a really great little feature at on Netflix that you can watch. That's just like watching the movie and then watching that you're like, holy fucking shit. Yeah. They did what?

And then also I'm lucky enough that I got to, I live in New York and there's currently an exhibit at MoMA of those fucking little puppets and it's amazing. It's such a, it's so worth it if you live in New York to go check out these. And I'm hoping, I wouldn't be surprised if it tours afterwards. But it's so amazing to see this shit up close and in person. And they even have, they even have one, one kind of diorama setup with a stop motion camera moving. So you can see how fucking slow this thing moves.

It's great. It's great. It's amazing. I watched that thing and I felt this combination of admiration for the gorgeous work and like, oh man, what an accomplishment and this feeling of utter stress. Like, why would you put yourself through this? I love the movie, but why did you do this? Yeah, I feel like that's the thing about stop-motion animation, right?

Is how, how like labor-intensive it is. Yeah. So, Dan, how'd that movie sit with you? Did you like it? Was it sad? Oh, it was one of my favorites of the year, actually. I walked into it being like, why do we need another Pinocchio and came out of it being like, okay, fine, fine, you did it.

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Are you, did you just start? Are you now you're reading the questions to make someone fall in love with you or whatever? What is it? Is it working? You tell me. Okay, so I guess you guys are wanting to answer that one. That's fine. Two personal. Two personal. As Tony was so one said at a panel discussion, I attended with someone asked him what a Tommy was overacfist is. He said two personal next question.

Okay, so we got one more question, everybody. That is the flop house started about 15 years ago. Sliding doors is a movie that explores the concept. If there's a key moment in your life and your life went different, what do you think you guys would be doing if you had not become podcasters doing the flop house? What would you be doing with yourself? I have thought about this before, like just the other chance with which this podcast was started and the luck that it continued,

because I know that we started with Dan saying, hey, do you want to do a podcast? And I'm like, what's a podcast? Yeah. And I guess as much as we gripe about the time we spend on, say, the upcoming Transformers movie versus spending it with our families and as much as, you know, sometimes the only part of the podcast that ever grates on me is the time spent watching the movie.

Other, everything else is it is a, is a, is a beautiful thing and a joy forever. Well, you know, I'm going to, you know, mention one more. The times we get a little grumpier with one another because we're not only friends, but now business partners of many years. Oh, yeah, that goes without saying, yeah, I'm going to hate each other now. But aside from those things, like, I can't imagine how much less rich my life would have been if this hadn't honestly miraculously happened because maybe I would still be working in television, but I'd be currently out of a TV writing job. I I wouldn't, I would still be friends with Elliott and Stuart,

but probably not as close and probably would have drifted further away as Elliott went across the land to the other Golden Coast. And the other coast, comma, which is golden and And you know, I wouldn't have had the chance to have something that really felt like our own thing in a world where even in my Dream day job when I am employed on TV. I'm not writing the thing that I want to do. I am hammering my thoughts into the form of someone else's head. And me right works good. But me give job, right?

I can't believe you're turning this into a resume. Like I do when I try and become a warhammer pitch man. And I guess I'm, I guess my flaws, I'm too hard on myself. I'm too much of a perfectionist. Yeah, I take my job too seriously. No, no. I don't think I said anything about the work. It's too good at work.

I jump, I mean, as Dick gets in the way of my legs sometimes. I don't think that's what I was saying. I was saying that like even when you're at your best in one of those jobs, you're not getting to like be sort of the person who controls things. And you know, you can't be someone who wants to write words down and share them without being a little bit of a control freak about that sort of thing and want to have your own expression. So that's nice. In addition to all the people I've met through this, people have been guests on the show, people who are just people that we met out on the road listeners who were so kind to us. And I probably wouldn't be, Jesus, I wouldn't have my wife like who

I met at a Max Fun karaoke event. You know, like, yeah, yeah. Now that's a fan. She said that she listened to the show beforehand and was like, specifically about me. She said, not for me. This guy seems grumpy and not for me. Too sad. She thought, but I weaseled my way through her heart apparently. And yeah, no, I'm not her favorite podcaster. I was going to mention before we're talking about people to have on the show. I was thinking like, should I say John Dickerson? I'm sort of

jealous that they had him on Jordan Jesse Jesse go. And that's Audrey's favorite podcaster. It goes John Dickerson, Halley Elliott. And then I'm somewhere down below. But anyway, sorry, that was really rambly. But that's, no, but then there's a lot of beautiful sentiment in that. I'm sure that the listeners will be able to dig it out like chunks of meat and a big old stew and sure. Alas, we'll be able to dig it out, like chunks of meat and a big ol' stew. And sure, Alex will have a little bit of a chopping into something. Speaking of big ol' stews, stew this question leads so well into my final pledge break that I want to give you a chance to answer before I pick up. So, what would you be doing if you weren't doing it?

Obviously, long time listeners of the podcast would assume that if I wasn't doing this podcast, I would be doing some other kind of grind set influencer style podcast where I'm encouraging people to really embrace their like alpha personality. But I don't know. I feel like one of the key things about this. So this podcast really saved you from being a terrible person.

Exactly. Oh, man, I would have so much flair. I, you know, I feel like one of the things the show gave me is, unlike you guys, I didn't have a creative day job. So it really gave me a creative outlet, which has been really exciting. And it, I mean, more than anything, it exposed me to a whole wide world of people and kind of allowed me to become a better person, which is really great. And that's been awesome. Don't listen to the old episodes of the show.

I'm, you know, whatever. But yeah, so the show's been really cool. And I don't know what I'd be doing. I mean, I feel like I'd probably be, I would certainly be less happy and well-rounded and adjusted. Yeah, so yeah, I need, I'm really glad this show came into my life and that especially because yeah, like I probably, I mean, I'm one of those, I'm a middle-aged guy and a lot of my relationships are built around shared interests and hobbies And this show is, you know, it's obviously more than that, but it's like, I feel like it would be hard to maintain relationships

with both Dan Elliott if I didn't have this regular thing that I'm doing. And I'm really thankful for that. That's right. Of course, to put up with my shit. No, but as you get older, it's harder to maintain friendships, especially if people who don't live super close to you, or you don't have a reason to see regularly at work or something like that. So, yeah, I totally understand that that's a not necessarily a dig on us and how unfriendable

we are. No, but that's nothing to do with that. No, but that, no, I mean, that's true, but it's not what you're saying at the time. Yeah, that's not what I'm saying. I'd say that in private or to my therapist. But I also, similarly, everything you guys said goes for me in terms of how wonderful this has been as a way to maintain our friendship, especially Stu and you and me to grow our friendship because we weren't, didn't really know each other particularly well when we first started recording it together.

To meeting listeners, meeting people on the road like Dan said really reaching out the most exciting thing to me about any creative endeavor and I feel like podcasting is that times a thousand is being able to reach out and connect to people who otherwise you never would have met you wouldn't have known they existed they wouldn't have known you existed someone on another part of the country another part of the world another city who listens to you and hopefully responds emotionally and enjoys it. And hopefully also responds in kind in terms of not in the form of a podcast, but it responds with a message or a note or an email or a tweet, something that is a way of saying like, I heard you and I want you to hear me

too. And now we know each other exists. And that's really wonderful. It's we've created another connection between human beings that wasn't there before. That's very special to me. Like Dan was saying, having something that can be us, that we don't have to run anything by, we don't have to hammer like Dan was saying, our thoughts into a new shape to fit someone else's voice is really exciting and really wonderful. Before we leave, I just want to say, I know I got a little mad at the end of the last Blood Drake and I shouldn't have. I apologize.

That was not me. The thing is, most of all, I have you cooled off a lower you cool. No, I've cooled off quite a bit. Yeah, I've had a cold soda pop, which has caused me to burp a little bit throughout the second half of the show, which is not great, but it did help cool down my internal temperature and my emotional temperature. Yeah. That's what it does. Off gas. Yeah. So each burp is me releasing tension in a way that lowers my emotional thermometer slightly. The thing is, I'm very, very thankful for you, the listener. I'm thankful for Dan. I'm thankful for Stewart for many reasons, partly for starting this podcast and partly for asking me to be a part of this podcast. But I'm really thankful to you, the listener, for listening to this

show. I'm thankful that you write into us, that you reach out to us over social media, that you tell people about the show, that you force your family members sometimes to listen to it on long drives, and hopefully they like it. And sometimes they don't. I'm especially thankful that so many of you are already supporting us each month. And I hope even more of you join them. I'm going to be almost brutally honest right now. I'm going to say things that I said before in a joking way, but I'm going to say them kind of in an honest, serious way now.

This is not an easy time to be in the entertainment business. It feels like there's kind of three corporations that own all of TV in the movies, and they don't want to pay anybody any money because they are all tottering on the edge of extinction. It is a very chilling time to be a professional writer in many ways, from AI bots that are going to start taking our jobs probably to companies that are afraid of trying new things and just kind of reinvest in the same old IP to the fact that it's always been a hard job. And it's only, it never gets easier, you know.

So it makes me so excited that I have the flop house, that Dan is who and I have this outlet that we beat can be creative with, that we have total control over. Like I said, we don't have to ask anyone's permission. We don't have to ask Max Fun's permission to do anything. They're a great network in part because they are completely hands off and can't tell us what to do.

We can do whatever we want with it. And that we can connect to you. The way I was starting out for it without anyone getting in the way. There's nobody between us and you. Nobody. Me saying this right now is going straight from my brain to my mouth to your ears to your brain with nothing in between. And thankful that all that becomes something that we can pair bills with, that we can support ourselves with to a certain extent. And that means so much to me. It's nothing I'm extremely thankful for.

And it's possible entirely because of the maximum fund network and your financial support of us and that network. So by going to maximumfund.org slash join pledging as the list five dollars a month, that's a $1.25 per episode, which is the price of a Marvel comic book in 1993. So that is a good deal for an episode of a podcast, just in case you're wondering, how that factors into Marvel comic books in 1993 pricing structure, $25 is base minimum standard.

By just, by paying that much, you are, yes Dan, where you're gonna make a comic about a plastic system? Well, what about if you have a special cover, like one of those, like a four-year cover or four-year cover? That's gonna cost you more, that could get up to as like a four in covers or that's going to cause the more that could get up to as much as $2.95 for an issue.

And if you're buying one of the books like She-Hulk or Wolverine that doesn't have big newsstand distribution that's a $1.75 per inch. If they have like variant covers, think of how much you're spending at that point. Yeah, because you're buying, you got to buy all those covers

because how can you not? That's another picture that you didn't own and that you need to own it now. So just for that little amount, you are supporting artists who's working you enjoy in a very direct, very tangible way that is oftentimes very necessary.

It's certainly necessary for us. And I hope that you feel like the flop house is a special and necessary part of your life. By going to maximumfund.org slash join and pledging to support us you are directly contributing to every new episode that appears in your feed. And by going to maximumfund.org slash join you get access to even more episodes pledging to support us, you are directly contributing to every new episode that appears in your feed.

And by going to maximumfund.org slash showing, you get access to even more episodes, because of all that bonus content I mentioned earlier in the show, most importantly, as I'm saying, by going to maximumfund.org slash showing, you are making it possible for anyone to hear this silly nonsense. And we get emails all the time. This is a part where I'm going to tug the heartstrings. We get emails all the time. I pretend you didn't hear that.

I was just telling Dan and stored that. We get emails all the time from listeners who say, I was having a really hard time and listening to your podcast helped me smile when I really needed it. And that is the thing that means the most to me. It is a very humbling thing and I find it a little frightening

because it's a lot of power to have over another person's emotion when we're just three stupid idiots that are saying dumb stuff. But people write in and they say, thank you for just giving me something that made a hard time easier. And I totally understand it. The fact is, I've had some pretty hard times recently too.

I've talked about them a little bit on the show and I've kind of hinted at them. There's nothing exciting to tell. There's no exciting story. Just rough emotional times. And doing this podcast with my best friends has really helped me smile when I needed it in my life. And us doing that is really only possible because of every one of the maximum fun members who supports us, because of everyone who listens to us,

but doubly so, those who support us. So I wanna say thank you very much again. Even if you feel like you can't pledge this time, thank you for listening, please consider it in the future, but please do it this time if you can. Thank you very sincerely from my heart to yours for keeping us going, for keeping all of us going for kind of more ways than one. Again, thank you to everyone who isn't a support yet. But we'd especially thank you if you go to maximumfund.org slash join right now to become a

supporter. Remember I owe so much to you guys. I hope this dumb show goes a little way towards repaying that debt. And I know it's super cringey for me to keep making calls to action and telling you the URL rather than ending on my actual feelings, which are just this intense gratitude for your your ears and your and your dollar support. But please go to maximumfund.org slash join become an excellent member or upgrade your monthly pledge. You'll never regret that you did it. You'll never regret growing there. I'll stop. I'll never stop being grateful for it. So I want to say, thank you very much for doing so please do so right now. Maximumfund.org slash join. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Each of those thank you's got more

sincere as I went on. And thank you, Dan and Elliott for joining me on this episode of the Peach Pit Requiem rise of the Peach Pit. Oh, yeah. I forgot about the part. I also forgot about the subtitle. This has been a production of the flop-house podcast. It's also a fan podcast of the flop-house podcast. Thank you for tuning in.

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