The Flop House - FH Mini 77 - The Flop House: Movie Doctors

Episode Date: April 1, 2023

As a thank-you for everyone who became a new or upgrading member during Max Fun Drive 2023 or has been a sustaining member for years, we've provided some bespoke movie recommendations for some fortunate listeners who reached out in response to our call! (If we didn't get to yours this time around, fear not! We hope to do more in the future.)If you haven't become a member yet, this is an amnesty weekend! There's still time! You haven't missed it! Boy, you there, what day is it today? Today? Why it's Max Fun Day, sir! Become a member and support the podcasts you love at maximumfun.org/join!If you're in Brooklyn, see this in time, and there are still tix left, come see us at The Bell House on April 2!

Hey everyone and welcome to the flop house many for this week. I'm Dan McCoy. I'm Stuart Wellington. I'm just killing time because I can't remember what my name is. I'm just fanping until I remember what my name is. It's Ellie Kaelin. Oh thank you Ellie. I'm Ellie Kaelin. Thank you so much to there appreciate it. And so normally at this point I would have a labored explanation of what we do on many's but first because this is the

max fund drive or it just ended at it. Yeah real quick guys. It's the final weekend of the max fund drive. It technically ended but the books are still weekend of the max fund. You guys are slowing me down here. That's awesome.

I'm all about speed because people should go sign up right now. Right now. Because the books are still open over the weekend. For as little as $5 a month, you can get access to our full bursting library of bonus content, fill of all kinds of stuff, as well as the knowledge that you're directly supporting us, the flop house So head over to maximumfund.org slash join and support us now Yeah, because remember it's the final weekend of the

weekend over the weekend. They'll never notice it will be our little secret Even though we have headphones on a dog across the street started barking when Ellie hit the high notes. They're not going to like it when I say, everybody is pledging for this weekend. Okay. Oh, wait, the dogs are dancing. They're up on their hind legs. You should see this. The dogs picking up the phone calling its cousin. Saying this is the sound they've been looking for. Uh-huh. Yeah. Um, hey, so now we go into the actual show and, and, and on the flop house.

The actual show is where we're going right now. So, so the general premise of the flop house, of course, is that we watch a bad movie and then we talked about it, but then we thought, hey, let's do some extra shows too. And those ones, not very structured. At this time around, or Max Fun Drive, we've decided to provide some personalized recommendations for listeners. We had listeners write in with what they felt were,

you know, a few, not overwhelming, a few pertinent facts about who they were. And then we were all going to come in and try and give personalized movie bespoke movie recommendations from the flop house. We're like movie doctors. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. These recommendations are blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,

blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, Man, it's just come from a fucking Chuckie cheese. Why are you singing all these songs? Yeah. I have to admit my morning as I do every, every morning going to having my morning coffee at Chuckie cheese. Yeah. And I was going to object to movie doctors after I use, I hit bespoke so hard, but you know what? In a way, doctors are the most bespoke tailors because if they show you up, they're doing it right on your body.

It is specific to you. Yeah, made to work. Yeah, there you go. You can't get surgery off the rack. No, no, you can't. And I've got a little until that black mirror episode. All right, so we all look off into the distance. It fades into an episode of black mirror where you can get surgery off the rack.

David Kronnerberg's like, you totally stole this bit from me and I'm like, chill out, dude. It's like, you don't have a trademark on future surgery. And he's like, oh, I can trademark whatever I want. Canadian law is very open for that sort of thing. I don't even know if that's true, but let's go on to the first listener. Now I eased us in or I made it harder, plus one made it harder by choosing one for the first one with the least sort of like lengthy information. This person just provided some bullet points and we have to extrapolate.

This is definitely the one that took me the longest to think of one for. Yeah, but it's the quickest to read. So I put it at the top. Yep. Sure. There goes, hey, peaches, I'm David and I'm a bartender who lives in Chicago, who hates kids, but loves obscure 90s alt rock. So yeah, it's concise. It's a high-cool of a question. Actually, I actually had a movie pop out right away.

Well, why don't you go first? Now, I don't know. If it's the one that it took me forever to think about, think of, I'm going to get so mad. Oh, you're going to be jealous, you mean? So I don't know. I mean, I feel like this is going to, this is an interesting exercise because I don't, a lot of the movies that I came up with, I wouldn't say are like super deep cuts, but I feel like this is this one kind of ticks a bunch of those boxes and I'm going to recommend Michael Mann's thief. It's a great Chicago movie. It's got a definite like blue collar appeal that I kind of feel ties in with. I mean, I don't know where you're bartending, but I feel like service industry workers have a touch of the like blue collar element. There's, I don't think there's any kids in this movie.

You don't have to worry about that. He talks about wanting kids at one point, but you never see him. Is that that amazing scene where he pulls out his fucking prison collage? Yes, his collage of terror that is his dream and at that moment she should walk out of that date for right now. She should, I mean, I've seen a lot, you know, the internet's full of, you know, like Instagram Reels and TikTok videos laying out red flags. Number one on that list is a prison collage with Vision Board. A feed Vision Board, prominently featuring Willie Nelson.

I don't know, that's softens for you. Yeah, I guess. Yeah. Yeah, it's so great. And while it's not 90s alt rock, the entire soundtrack is by Tangerine Dream, which is great. It is a great soundtrack. I love this movie. It is undeniably a classic. It's great. James Conn gives arguably his best performance, one of them.

And it's what the first on-screen appearance of Jim Belushi, I think. So that's very Chicago. That's very Chicago. Yeah, I love thief. Was that exactly what you were picking? It is not. That's a great, I wish I had thought of it. That's a great, great recommendation. I, yeah, like Stuart, I struggled with like, oh, you know, deep cuts, you know, if I recommend something that everyone knows, is that useful. I ultimately, I decided I will throw all of that out.

I'm just going to try and figure out. Just making Star Wars. Yeah, I'm just going to, I mean, if they haven't seen Star Wars, it's going to blow their mind. Whatever comes to mind after thinking about it, we'll be what I go with and I will prioritize something that someone may not have heard of. But anyway, that's sort of more general

than it has to do with this. But this one was hard for me. I considered a green book since it's sort of about a band that gets me. You gets green room. Sorry. Green room. I was like, Green book. Okay, interesting. A movie I know you didn't like.

Green room. I haven't even seen Green book. I don't even know where that. I just wrote down Green and like, my, my phone autogrex was like, do you mean Green book? Or arguably the movie featuring actual skinheads might be less racist? Yeah, yeah. Green room.

That's food for thought. That's green food for thought. That's your voice. Yeah. A harrowing thriller about a band that gets trapped in a barflow of Nazis. You think, you think Pomecartanian wings had a band on the run? Oh boy, this is a band that is really on the run. That movie features one of, I mean, I love Jeremy Sonya or movies and that fucking

arm scene with the fucking box cutter is the one of it like it's horrifying. And then the rest of the movie, he's just running around and I'm like, what does this arm look like under all that bandage? It looks horrible. Yeah. That, I mean, I considered that one. I also considered a movie called The Color Me Obsessed about the Replacements, but I haven't seen that movie. I just thought maybe rock them a bit.

I think it's a good idea to recommend movies you've seen. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I stuck only the movies I've seen. And I decided to recommend Dig, the documentary, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I it, but it's just sort of a fascinating, true life story of, I don't know, what it's like to be in a band, what it's like to deal with sudden fame, what it's like to be the kind of person who is in a band,

who maybe isn't equipped for sudden fame, all those things. And like struggling when you're in a creative endeavor with multiple other people who are maybe difficult and how tough that can be on, I don't know, a sensitive person or a person who's got a really hard work ethic tweeting us at this point is that what's sub potting, yeah. So that's what I came up with. This was a hard one for me. And so I'm going to recommend a movie that this is.

I don't know that one, Dan. I'm going to, I'll have to check it out. Yeah, it's good. Mine is a, I didn't know it either. Mine is a slightly qualified recommendation because this is a movie I haven't seen since I was a teenager. But I really latched onto the 90s alt rock aspect. And I think for this, for I'm going to recommend for David,

I'm going to recommend the movie Freaked Starring Alexander Tmitra. Oh, nice. And co Freaked Starring Alex Winter. Nice. And co-directed by Alex Winter, this is a comedy that was barely released in the United States. It was from 1993, stars Alex Winter and Randy Quaid, Mr. T and Brook Shields and Kiano Reeves are in it, but Kiano Reeves is not quite recognizable because he's under dog man makeup the entire movie almost.

And this is a movie that I'm sure there are jokes in it that do not age well since it is about people being kidnapped and turned into, into a, big, big, strange people. Yeah, such a performance. And, but I remember seeing it as a kid and thinking like, as a teenager and a kid and say, like, he's used to play an HBO a lot, that it was really funny and it's being surprised that there wasn't much being done with it otherwise. And apparently it was originally meant to be a butthole surfers movie. And that got changed quite a bit during pre-production and production. But it's one that I bet you'll laugh at a few times.

It's got a very 90s alt rock. I feel like sensibility to it. So that's freaked. But again, I'm sure there are jokes in there that have not aged well considering this is a 30 year old movie that was I think supposed to be real like edgy at the time. So I guarantee there's stuff in there that is less sensitive than it should be. I just don't know what. Nice. So right in, tell us if freak told us up. Yeah, I guess. Yeah, thank you. Um, I've actually never seen it, but I do like the buttoll servers a lot and I do like

Alex Winterloss. I guess HBO of fair amount. It was not a show a lot, but it's there's there. I remember some very funny jokes from it. I don't remember all of it. But I remember funny jokes in it. Maybe I'll just wander around the Roku channel or to be and see if it'll turn up like yesterday when I decide to watch evil tunes.

Yeah. Well, that's what I've never actually seen. I only saw the video store. Guess what? It rules. Just one of those movies that yeah, like either it exists no place, and except for maybe like someone who uploaded it to YouTube. It is on YouTube.

It exists every place. What is one of those? and except for maybe like someone who uploaded to YouTube. Yeah. Or in its time. Yeah. In every place. What is one of those? Oh, I see. Yeah, one of those movies weren't whereby by Strummstrange, the vicissitude of reality. Yeah, it's either it either disappeared

off the face of the earth or it is in a four pack of movies you can buy at this restaurant. Yeah, it's playing on the like screen at the bus stop. Why is it that that Jake Gyllenhaal's bubble boy is readily, it seems like it's playing on the like screen at the bus stop. Why is it that that Jake Gyllenhaal's bubble boy is readily, it seems like it's available everywhere. Yeah. No one wanted it even at the time. And yet, now you can't walk down the street, slipping on a copy of bubble boy.

No, yeah. Swing a dead cat. Dead cat will say, please, I hope I don't hit a copy of bubble boy this time. Can we swing a different dead animal? Sorry. Swing a dead Kennedy and you're bound to hit a copy of all the blame. This one is from Emily Lasting with held. Emily Wright.

Emily and Perry. Yeah. Hey guys, here's the pertinent details for my personalized pick. Almost 30 female in a film and TV production program have large blind spots for some cinema classics I want fixed. Enjoyer of 80s horror, 90s trash and bonafide TCM classics. So all three floppers have a chance of making the best recommendation. Big fan of the show would really appreciate giving some recommendations for my favorite

podcasters. Keep it sleazy and M Emily last name with held. Now, if what I'm doing right now is not sleazy, do I have to up the sleaze factor? Yeah, I, I feel like I really have to maintain. It says keep it sleazy. I feel like I really latched onto the sleazy part of this one with my regular. Well that's the thing. So Emily says, a Georgia of 80s horror 90s trash and bonafide

TCM classics. Now, I can only assume by, you know, process of elimination that I'm supposed to be the 90s trash, because I assume that stew is 80s horror and you're the TCM classics, but those are also things I enjoy.

So look, don't flammets into the one thing. Dan, you contain multitudes. Yeah, but that being said, because I presume that was mine, I went in that direction. Okay. And I would like to recommend an erotic thriller from the 90s. Keeping it lazy. 1995, directed by Peter Hall, starring Antonio Manderis and Rebecca de Mourne. It is called Never Talk to Strangers. It has the two things I really like in a 90s erotic dumb thriller.

I thought you were going to say that the two things I really like boobs and butts. Those are amongst the many things. But in a 90's. That's in the constellation of things that you enjoy. Yeah. Yeah. If there's a word cloud, those would be some of the larger words. But no, I, for a 90's erotic thriller, it has the things I like, which is number one,

a utterly implausible, weird, jalo style, like explanation for everything that's going on that would fall apart in life, but is perfect in the context of one of these thrillers. And a little like genuine sexiness. There's a scene in this where Rebecca Dormourne bites Antonio Benderis' butt, and it's like a thing that like, I don't know, to see actors doing, like you don't usually see that kind of like goofy intimacy on screen. Yeah, that's what I'm doing. The movie that promises a butt will be bit, but that would be a great tagline for a butt will be bit. That would be a great tagline for a movie, but we'll be bit. But yeah, no, I mean, like, it's a silly movie, but it's kind of impressive that it actually

feels like sexy at parts. So that's the one I'm going with. I mean, I think it probably speaks to the charisma of those two leads. Yeah, very sexy people. I'm going to recommend something that I think, in a way, if you look at it from a certain angle, it kind of hits all the criteria of this recommendation. Because it was a something that I did not see at the time of its release, and I didn't see until a little bit later. I think it definitely hits 80s horror. It's a little, it's a little sleazy, and it also has a little bit of a TCM vibe.

I'm gonna recommend Fred Decker's Night of the Creeps, a movie I'm sure we've mentioned on the podcast before. It stars that hunk, Tom Atkins. Uh-oh, look out, ladies. Lock up your daughters. What? Um, cause they're, That's too generous. Cause their boyfriend's are dead.

Yeah, it's a, it's a zombie movie involving brain worms. There's bits that are in black and white from E Olden times. And there's current stuff. It's great. It's super funny. It's one of those movies that I'm like, if I had seen this movie as a teenager, it would have, I don't feel like it would have changed me. It's just one of those things that I'm like, how did I not see this earlier?

Like this? I'm surprised you didn't, because I saw it as a teenager. It hits like, it like ticks every box of what I like in a movie. It's stylish. There's a fucking, what a morgue attendant who shows up with a fucking sandwich. I love that shit. Yeah,

it's so great. It's got great one liners, two thumbs up. If you haven't seen Night of the Creeps and you like any of the things that I've mentioned or if you like James Gunn's slither, which is essentially a remake. Yeah, very much it. I'd update in some ways of Night of the Creeps, yeah. But also very good and fun. Slither is very good and very fun. Is it as good as Night of the Creeps? I'm sorry, James Gunn. You're not as good as Night of the creeps. Yeah. But also very good and fun. Sleuthers very good and very fun. Is it as good as night of the creeps? I'm sorry, James Gunn. You're not as good as night of the creeps. You know what? Few are. So if you haven't seen night of the creeps, go check it out. It's so much fun. I love it. I'm going to recommend a movie that I love that I think

ticks off the classic movie box. And I don't know about the sleaze box, but it's certainly got to it. We have a cover. Yeah, we covered sleaze, but but it's certainly got a lot of that cover. Yeah, we covered sleaze, but this isn't a Rodic movie in some ways, although it's mostly emotional or Rodics. And that's black narcissists. That's right, starting Deborah Care, as I would say, David Care, which is not a person, Deborah Care. And this is a power.

Deborah Care, Dean. This is a Powell and Pressburger film. It is about some nuns in the Himalayas who are being forced to confront basically the buried feelings of loneliness and kind of erotic stirring that they do not want to feel or give into as they

are nuns in the Himalayas. And it's shot in this in the classic power and press worker super lush color. Everything looks beautiful, it looks gorgeous. It is a really like a like sensual movie in a classy way. Dan's it sounds like it's kind of a sensual movie in a sleazy way and this is a sensual movie

in a classy way. It's a movie where no one bites anybody's butts but at one point a woman puts on lipstick and it is like a thunderbolt coming out of the sky, like an erotic thunderbolt, just her putting on that lipstick. The male character in it, he rides around on a very small horse, which is accurate to where the movie takes place, but it does look a little ridiculous. So you have to try not to laugh at how small his horse is. But otherwise, it's a really tight thriller, but also a gorgeous-looking movie.

That's Black Narcissus. Did you see, didn't they do a TV version? Did you see that? Did you see that? I didn't watch it at all. Partly because I feel like I've gotten to a point in that. The same way that there's this great expectations, many series that's out now. And I used to be like, I want to see that new version of the story I like, but I've gotten to the

point now where I'm like, I love that old version of it. I don't love it because of the story for black and our sisters at least. I love it because of the way they make that movie. So I'm not really that interested in how someone who's not Powell and Press program make it, but I've heard good things about that mini series. So, but I would say it is not, I'm not, I'm not saying don't watch it, but I'm not saying, I'm saying that's not my recommendation. Is that many serious? My recommendation is the movie from 1947. This next one. So we started out with very little information. This one includes diagrams. I felt, I felt really, I'm feel really proud about this one. Okay. So I feel, I feel like I've got a good one for this. The other two, I mean, the other two are recommend or crap.

Those are bad recommendations. I got it. I got it. The diagram system is helpful, but let's get into it. So this is from Aaron Lassenheim with Held, who says, hey, Peach, his first time, long time, etc. Since I found myself aligned with each of your movie tastes over the years, I thought the way I would approach the question would be to give each of you a constellation of three movies that I like and I think that are in your respective wheelhouses and ask you to give me a recommendation for a film that is a good interpolation of the three. I hope this makes sense and I've provided a diagram to help. If it doesn't make sense, just think about what I can complete a four film DVD collection given the first three Aaron lasting withheld and there's a little diagram.

It's kind of like a consolation as he says. It's a triangle with movie one movie two movie three at the points and inside it says your recommendation here. So let's just do it. The author. The author we have a stew's consolation. Movie one dread. 2012.

Yeah. Movie movie two old boy 2003. Yep. Yep. Movie one dread. One each well. Yeah movie movie two old boy 2003. Yep. Yep. Yep. Movie three X Macina, which appears to be where. Oh no, I guess he's he's adding dates just to differentiate when there might be confusion. I was like, he seemed to lose interest in giving a date. Yeah. Yeah. That makes sense. Okay, so I feel like the center of those three, that diagram, the center of those three, is none other than universal soldier day of reckoning, the fourth movie in the franchise, because it's a revenge story, it's a movie that is set up by a home invasion by what are they like?

They're like walking corpse soldier guys. The reanimated soldier guys, which are kind of like robots and ex machina that science gone awry. And the hero played by Scott Atkins, who is getting a lot of buzz right now because he's one of the baddies in the new John Wick movie goes on a rampage to try and get revenge. Diary say it's similar to old boy and it's got action scenes that are bonkers and so violent and bloody. There's a scene in like a sporting goods store that is absolutely nuts.

I highly recommend this. If you have any interest in seeing a very violent, very strange action movie, I highly recommend this. If you have any interest in seeing a very violent, very strange action movie, I highly recommend Universal Soldier 4, which is the best in the franchise. Okay. So next is my constellation. That's me, Dan. It says movie one, The Sweet Smell of Success, two Miller's Crossing and three vertigo. So this is one of these cases where I'm not going to say something unknown really, but I felt like appropriate to me.

Star Wars. Between the sweet-cell success Miller's Crossing in Vertigo, I sense sort of a common tone of sort of romantic cynicism, I mean, which, you know, makes sense, like I think cynicism is kind of like romanticism that is hoping for the best, but fearing that the worst and often getting the worst. It's romanticism, getting defensive, yeah. Yeah. And they all sort of have a theme of corruption as well. I went with Touch of Evil, the worstsen welles film starring himself, Charlton Heston, Janet Lee, and Marlena Dietrich in 1958. And a team Tameroth.

I feel like it shares the visual flair that all those movies have, and it has the same kind of tone of a story of sort of trying to make a way through a tangled cynical world and some people's get through and some people don't. And that's all I'll say about that. I mean, you know, we keep me, I'm having a hauling about the fact that some of these are unknown, but I've never seen Touch of Evil. Partly obviously because I was too busy watching Evil tunes last night. You did have the two. Yeah, prior priorities. There were two evil films in front of the thing. One of the ones tunes. You're like, look it up. He's like, this touch of evil have any tunes in it and who doesn't know. And I'm like, it doesn't say it in the description,

but maybe I I have to go over to red it now. Dennis Weaver's performance is Dennis Weaver who owns the hotel, right? His performance is pretty cartoonish, but yeah. Anyway, Elliot's constellation. Okay. I can see this on the hotel. Okay. So yeah, Angry Men 1957, three The Wages of Fear. All right, so I think I've aced this one. What are these movies have in common? Wages of Fear and 12 Angry Men, they're both about Angry Men who are confronted with some kind of conflict, some kind of obstacle or struggle, either physical or emotional or,

in the case of Wages of Fear both. And Tokyo's story is about people in Japan whose lives are not quite turning out the way they want it to. And whereas, all of these movies has a certain amount of realism to it. It's not, there are none of them are, Wages of Fear even considering it's a movie

about trucks full of explosive chemicals. They're none of them feel sensational. And so I think I ace this. I decided to go with a Japanese movie. Why not? And I picked high and low. Akira Kurosawa's high and low starting to share a Mofuni, but don't let that blind you to the fact that it also features Tetsuya Nakade, another one of Japan's great leading men all the hearings in a supporting role. And high and low is the story of a man who, to Shionma Funi plays a man who is about to embark on the hostile takeover of a shoe company, only to find out he's a rich man,

he's about to risk everything, only to find out that his chauffeur's son has been kidnapped under the misapprehension on the part of the kidnappers that it was his son. And now he's been faced with the ransom. And is he going to pay this ransom for another man's son?

What can he do and still live with himself? And it's a movie that is also kind of, especially for a three movie constellation challenge, is neatly divided up into three parts pretty much. The part we're stealing with the ransom and the kidnapper, the police investigation, and then the final confrontation between our high and low people. And it's all about life in a Japan of income inequality

and social inequality. It is about the ethical struggles that one has to face when they are taken outside of their own comfort zone, and it's super tense. And it's shot beautifully. It's the opening of it is almost like the most tense play you've ever seen. And then the movie keeps kind of opening up

and then it closes down again. And it's just really good. So high and low, a Kira Kurosawa's version. There are other movies called High and Low. I have not seen them. This is the one I'm talking about. And not sweet and low, that is a sweetener, an artificial sweetener

and not sweet and low down, which is a different movie. High and low. That's a comic strip. No, at least funny comic strip. Maybe ever ever made. The sister of Beatle Bailey. What who lives in the summer? Now, what if it was? The chorus that was high and low as had been good. Curse I was high and low as would have been very interesting. I mean, Curse I was going to make runaway train at one point. So you know the man has has variety and has varied skills. Now here's the thing, what if Beetle Bailey was the beetle in Sweeney Todd? How would that play be different instead of Beetle Bamford working for Judge Turpin?

It was really Bailey. Guys, I have tickets for Sweeney Todd this weekend after we move. Wow. So excited. It's awesome on all you. Because the reviews have been seller for this. Yeah, I really want to see it. I saw the last, the last revival of Sweeney Todd I saw twice, but that wasn't a full revival. It wasn't a full scale, like the last Broadway revival.

It wasn't like a full scale full orchestration one. I really hope I get to see this one. And this one has, this one has national treasure, an alley, Ashford in it, right? Yeah, yeah. Man, cheese. The best. Also, Jake Robs. And the kid from Stranger Things.

Which one? That shows their all kids. They're all kids of Paul Reiser. He's not a kid, but he's a dead yet. He was a kid once. But you need to jump up in the middle of the play and say, where's Beetle Bailey? Where's Beetle Bailey? Try to get a chance going. I can tell you right now that that attempt will fail.

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It's all I get. I'm sorry. I apologize. That was a bleak thing to say. I'll just loop that loop. Alex, you can cut it out if you want to. That's a thing that can go. Hey, the next one is from Laurel, last name with held.

Laurel writes, hello, flop stars. I've been listening for more than a decade now, but this is my first time writing in. The flop house was the first podcast I ever listened to after it was recommended by a man I had a crush on. All I haven't spoken to the man in years, at least he gave me the flop house. I'd love to get some first-wise recommendations from you. I mean, they're both listeners, I don't know why you. Oh, yeah, sorry about that.

I forgot he was a listener. I normally would you can, sorry, I said that would you consider pledging maximum content of that or its life joint? Yeah, it's not like you read, he's like, yeah, you should check out this podcast to wipe your ass. We apologize to every man who may have recommended a podcast at some point who lose, listen, I mean, not other podcasts, fuck those guys. I normally gravitate. You fall off, I ain't. I normally gravitate to movies that move at a slower pace,

particularly those that are woman led. Some examples include Brooklyn, Spirit It Away, Persepolis, Mid-Summer, and Roma. My favorite movies from the past year were women talking and Marcel the Shell with shoes on. Very similar in some ways. I also enjoy lighthearted musicals like in the heights and yesterday and hated La La Land. Looking forward to hearing what you have to recommend Laurel last name with health.

I got one that I think is genuinely under scene and I think might be the ticket. It's called Marjorie Prime. It's from 2017. It was directed by Michael Almereda. I hope I said that correctly. It's about an elderly woman who uses a service that creates a holographic projection of a young version of her deceased husband.

So it starts with, creates a holographic projection of a young version of her deceased husband. So it stars Lewis Smith as the older woman with this holographic companion. And it's based on a play. And I've seen reviews for it. I loved it. I've seen reviews for it from elsewhere. They're like, oh, it's too much like a play. But sometimes I feel like that's okay in movies. I feel like we have a very restrictive view. They're ways to

sort of embrace the fact that it's like a play and not run away from it. I feel like sometimes movies fail by running away from the central call of qualities of a play. I don't know. Yeah, as long as it's the best way to tell the story, who cares if it's of a play. I don't know. Yeah, as long as it's the best way to tell the story, like who cares if it's like a play? Yeah, but so yeah, it's got a low smith, like I said, John Hammers in it, Tim Robbins and Gina Davis shows up, show up and it's good to see their faces again, haven't been doing a lot. Audrey also was, no, I'm saying I missed them as performers. I'm not sure I know, like it's all either of them. He was the player, Elliott.

I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. He was on and do his part. The dubious look at my face was only the idea that they're not doing a lot because they do work. I, Gina Davis does all that charity work. I just, you know, they're, they're people I'm fond of who had bigger parts in movies

past who I don't see that much. That's all I'm saying. I'm not saying they don't work anywhere. You're just, you're just mad that earth girls are complicated now. Yeah. Um, that's Gina Davis. That's Gina Davis. Also, I wanted to say that, you know, I was looking over these and thinking about them while Audrey

happened to be around. And I have not seen this movie, but she suggested petite mamon for this one, which sounded like from everything I've read about it. It sounds like it might be ready. Yeah, I haven't seen that yet. And I really want to buy my girl, Celine. What do you guys have? Yeah, I mean, obviously I would have recommended Portrait of Lady on fire, but I recommend that

all the time. I love that movie. I'm crazy for it. So I'm going to recommend a movie that's a little more stewardy. It's called Castle Freak. It's called, but so much energy. You know how much energy, like how much effort it required for me not to just answer Castle Freak for all six of us.

I was so tempted. I mean, I did say a twinkle in Stuart's eye when I mentioned that we were doing this before of that. I was like, is he going to do that? Uh-huh. You're like, how much of a stinker is Stuart? You see a little stinker or is he a big stinker? Yeah.

Well, Stuart, you could take a break from Stinkering since I think as you showed us, or was a dead showed us, Paul Schrader on Wikipedia was not listening to the director of art beeps. Oh, wow, that's weird. I'm glad you're re-arching on it. I'm just my perception of big stinker. Yeah, what'll happen when I start using my Stinker powers for good guys? No, no.

You know, it's the limit. Stinker or suicide squad. Suicide stinks, yeah. I think it would be stinker-side squad. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I'm going to recommend a movie from 2009 directed by Ty West called House of the Devil. It's about a young college student who gets hired to babysit, but it immediately gets weird and she spends most of the movie just wandering around a spooky old house before it gets very terrifying. It does also feature Tom Nunean who is always welcome to see. And it also features director of Lady Bird, Greta Gerwig. Whoa, whoa, it's great. It's part of that whole mumblecore family of movies, the Joe Swanberg and Adam Wingard

and all those guys. It's, so if you're looking for like a quiet, interesting, kind of slow and scary horror movie that I feel like probably influence a lot of the the current generation of Indy Horror that is popping up. Check out the house of the devil. I'm going to recommend another scary movie, but this one's not horror scary. It's scary in that it's a real situation that is scary to be in. And that is the movie Wendy and Lucy, directed by Kelly Reichart, Reichart who did, you may know her from,

she did what first cow recently. Yeah. She also did the movie. Old Joy, she's done a, she's had a bunch of movies. Meeks Cut Off is another one of hers that I like a lot. This is Story of Strange, Shell Williams as Wendy. She is a homeless woman who is traveling

with her dog Lucy. And it's a really heartbreaking movie about how when you don't have resources, a relatively small problem can become a catastrophe and lead to your life dissolving around you. Michelle Williams is really great in it. The movie is really understated but it still has this feeling of like kind of ineffitable dread throughout it. And it's just, it's a really good.

And it's just super heartbreaking. It's slow, it takes its time. It's not one of those fast cutting, you know, hyper intense movies about a homeless woman who's losing possession of her dog. You know, it's not taken with the dog, you know. But that's what I would recommend for you, Laurel, Wendy and

Lucy. And I recommend taking with the dog as the title for our next collaborative screenplay. Taken with the dog. That goes, I am taken with this dog, this dog. I just cannot stop thinking about this dog. Okay, well, we got another one here. It's from Kate Lasting with Held, who writes, my hopefully fun bullet points of interest star. We'll be sure to internally judge these bullet points. Some of my favorite movies are video drum, true stories, army of darkness, and fire walk with me. I'm into musicals, schlock, and general silliness, and body horror. I will watch just about anything, but can only get my girlfriend to join me if the plot doesn't involve a lot of second-hand embarrassment.

I have seen the Velocipaster over seven times, and I'm really into dinosaurs. Thank you. From Kate. Oh man, LA, it's like, have you ever seen Jurassic Park? Yeah, are you chapping at the bit to get in there? No, one of the thing is I was really stymied by this because I wanted to recommend a dinosaur movie, but other than Jurassic Park, which I'm sure Kate has seen,

there's really not that many good movies about dinosaurs. I got a dyno. Great, I'll delete my recommendation of baby. I mean, I had a lost legend. That's I was like, I was like, is it baby, a lost legend or is it Tammy and the T-Rex? Tammy and the T-Rex is my recommendation. That's what I'm good at recommendation. I was guessing. So Tom, would you talk about Tammy and the T-Rex?

Well, it fits in with your enjoyment of schlock, general silly, this and body horror because it's about a girl whose boyfriend dies and then his brain gets put, well, he doesn't die, he dies because his brain, I guess, gets put into this robotic T-Rex. I can't remember the actual. That would kill you that life, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So now the, yeah, she's dating a dinosaur and she doesn't really let it stop her. That's even better. She's saying a dinosaur isn't even better titled for the most. So it's a love story between a gallon of dino and it has, if you watch the R rated version, the cut that was originally supposed to be the movie and then got restored recently, it's got a lot of gory in it. And it's a silly, schlocky horror comedy that I think in the restored version, I never watched the old one. I always saw it in these lists of bad movies. I think Camie the T-Rex knows exactly what

it's doing. I don't think it's that kind of bad movie. There are elements that aren't up to the ultimate realization of the potential. Yeah, but it also is totally conscious of how silly, it was a movie that was, I think, literally written in a weekend because someone involved had access to a dinosaur puppet. That's what I heard. At least a long time ago when I read about Jamie that you were ex- Actually, that story gets mixed up a lot. They actually had access to a Tammy. A movie about that. Makes sense. Well, make sure all the other elements are as easy to realize as possible.

I don't know if they read this game. God damn it, Gary. What are you doing? The giant dinosaur. Okay, so that was my recommendation. I also had an alternate in case someone else had tam in the T-Rex, which is just phantom of the paradise. I'll just mention it if you haven't. Oh yeah. You should watch it, but what do you guys have?

Yeah, yeah. I got to see that at least one of the masks from phantom of the paradisers and gear modal toraurus, personal collection. I'm going to recommend something I think hits a lot of those criteria. It's by a big name director and it's his debut feature. That's right, bad taste by Peter Jackson. It is silly, it's schlocky, it's body horrific, and it's very homemade. I think it took him what three years worth of Sundays to make this movie. And he made all the, like he made all the creatures masks in his mom's oven. That's why they're shaped in a specific way. Like all the guns

are homemade. It's great. It is about an alien invasion on Earth and a squad of elite anti alien task force guys in New Zealand who have to stop it. And it's so much fun and it's filmmaker who clearly loves movies and clearly has a talent and a flair for it, get to make this like tiny little movie. And yeah, it's great. It's one of my favorite movies of all time. I highly recommend it. And it's gross. It's a super fun movie. And I don't know if this is the cat, this happens with every version of it. But if you watched the version that was on Amazon Prime, I don't know if it still is, and you have the captions on,

for some reason the captions describe the soundtrack, the musical soundtrack. As you're watching it, great. It'll be like tense electronic music, and then it'll be like retitatipony drums, and I was like, this is an amazing touch to add to this, that they're describing how the music sounds. So here's the thing, I have a double feature of movies to recommend.

I couldn't think of a one I really want to recommend with dinosaurs, but this is a movie that, is it Body Har? I'm not sure. There's two scenes in particular that are kind of Body Harish, I guess, but it's a movie we've talked about a lot on the show. That's Possession from 1981,

Directive by Andres Zzylowski. I'm not sure entirely had a pronounciate name, but starring Sam Neill and Isabella Johnny and one of her greatest performances. And it is the story of the dissolution of a marriage against a backdrop of spy stuff in Berlin. And also what appears to be an alien creature that Isabella Johnny is leaving her husband for.

And it's, there's not that much physical horror in it aside from two major scenes, but there's such a sense of incredible emotional creepiness throughout the entire thing. And the whole movie, it feels like you're watching a film that fell through another dimension. Like it's just different enough in everything that happens in it.

And the other thing you mentioned, musicals and goofy stuff. So I would say, after possession, then I want you to watch Dames from 1934. This is a Buzz Be Berkeley musical with Dick Powell and Ruby Keeler and Guy Kibbe and Zezoo Pitts, two of the great comedy supporting actors of the 30s are in there. And it's just a super goofy, it's the silliest of the Buzzwee Berkeley movies. It's just super goofy and silly. There's a great number in it called the Girl of the Ironing Board, which it takes place entirely at a turn of the century laundry, and we're there with the women are all dancing with shirts and

stuff. And it has the song, I only advise for you, which is just the way they do it is beautiful. And it's where, if you remember in Gremlins 2, there's the part where there's a giant face of the Lady Gremlin and the eye iris is open and then the Lady Gremlin comes out of it. That's taken right from this number. And so it's, I can't remember. Are you sure it wasn't the other way around? You know what you're right, you're right.

They babble on this and the movie from back then was inspired by the movie from now. So that's my double feature for you. Kate is possession and games. All right. Well, we got one more person. I think we're mailing the assignment to the recognize. These were really gross. Everyone was doing a great job.

I just want to say, you guys put such thought into this. You've got great recommendations. I hope mine reached the same level and I hope our listeners are enjoying it. And I hope that they enjoy it so much that they go to maximumofun.org slash join and pledge their support. And maybe we'll do more of these. What do you think guys? What do you think?

What do you want to make? recommendations that are bo bo bo bo spoke. Danananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananananan blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, will even broken just to feel something. I can't tell the difference between ironic and sincere appreciation anymore. A few of my favorite movies of the 21st century are The Room, The Lighthouse, Cats and

Titan. Hit me with the weird shit guys. Show me that the world still has a capacity to surprise. Again, that's from Alex and Dayton, Ohio, man. I feel like cats and I are in the same boat. Yeah, because Dan's, I know Dan's in that boat, just taste buds don't taste anything entertainment-wise anymore. I'm really happy with my suggestion here. Alex, I don't know if you've seen this, maybe you have, but I wanted to recommend the Forbidden Room from 2015. That's a Guy Madden movie.

And if you want a movie that's going to surprise you, the Forbidden Room will surprise you because it is constantly changing what movie it is. Every six minutes or so, you never quite know what you're going to expect from it. By the end, the movie itself is going bonkers all over the place. It has an original song by Sparks that is available nowhere else, but in this movie. And I don't know if you're familiar with Guy Madden's work, but Guy Madden specializes in making movies that are modern movies, but look like they were made a long time ago that are dealing with subject matter that they would not have dealt with in old old movies. And it's got an amazing cast. Our old buddy Udo Kier appears in it as a guy. This is, I'll just tell you about this one sequence. This is the Sparks song that features Udo Kier

starring as a man who is so obsessed with butts that keeps going to a doctor to have parts of his brain scraped out so that he doesn't become obsessed with butts anymore. And it's not working. So he keeps having to get more and more of his brain scraped out. This is just one short story in this movie. And it's, it's a really great just, just bonkers movies. That's the forbidden room. One of Guy Madden's more recent movies and just a,. And just, there's a lot of delight in it. Yeah, I mean, there was a lot of sort of weirdo horror that I was thinking of, like stuff that you really rides that line where you're like, okay, I don't know.

I don't know if it's like, from one direction, this is kind of brilliant. I don't know what their intention was. It also is total nonsense. And it's like, because everything else is working, you know, the nonsense translates as dream logic and it's kind of fascinating. There's a lot of stuff like that.

I feel like this one was tailor-made for Dan. Because you, I think out of the three of us, you have the most experience with like wacko, I mean, stuff that you, it rides that line between great and totally horrible. Yes. And there's like stuff that occurred to me that I almost recommended a Paganini horror nightmare weekend, a boarding house. These are all, I think, classics of that type. I decided to go with a movie that I've recommended before on the podcast from 1993

doppelganger written directed by Israeli filmmaker Abby Nesher starring a young gish, true Barrymore, like, on Genuage, who has possibly a doppelganger that's following around and causing murderous mayhem until a pair of double reveals at the end of the movie that are just the kind of, like, outlandish that I was talking about before. But, you know, it's a movie that really for me, I watch it. I'm like, can I say this isn't working? Because I'm enjoying it so much. Like, if you're genuinely getting pleasure from it, then it's working on some level, yeah. Yeah. It's the thing with kink, guys. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, like, there's not much else I want to say because saying it would spoil the experience, but I don't know. I mean, like, there's not much else I want to say because saying it

would would spoil the experience, but I recommended a lot. I'm going to recommend a big messy movie that you might love or you might not like at all. Starman. I'm recommending a movie from 2006 called South Land Tales. Oh, interesting, interesting choice. I mean, I feel like this fits that like, it was a long delayed movie, it was a long hyped movie, it was Richard Kelly's follow up to Donnie Darko, right?

Yeah. And there were like prequel comics and shit. It was supposed to be the middle chapter of an enormous multimedia thing that there's gonna be comics and I forgot what the other section of it was. It was a hugely ambitious thing and it means that the movie has no beginning and no real acting. And it's, it's set like a futuristic Los Angeles. It's kind of this like ensemble story where characters are all doing all kinds of crazy

stuff. John Lovings is like a corrupt bad cop. And, and Wallace Sean is supposed to be a real sexy character. Like he was, he was deliberately casting people against type in the movies, like the rock is a real nervous, anxious guy. And it's a, yeah. It's, it's, and there's like musical numbers. It's, yeah, it's one of those things where, yeah, for, for somebody who is, you know, an explorer on the far reaches of cinema,

yeah, the line reaches of cinema experience. The line between pain and pleasure. Yeah, this might exactly be for you, or you might not like it at all, like many people at the time, did it? Honestly, that's a movie where I remember seeing that in the theaters being super excited because I really loved Donnie Darko and not liking it at all except for John Loveitts and the Rocks performances in them. And I think that if I watched it now without the baggage of, oh, this is the new movie

from the guy who made Donnie Darko, I think I might like it a lot. It's such a drunker's movie. Yeah, I'm in that same boat. I haven't watched it since this. Like there was enough of a growing like, hey, is this good actually? Contention that I watched it, but I also, I think I was still in that disappointment mode, whereas now, I don't know. I feel like it's gotten a bit of cultural reevaluation.

Mm-hmm. But yeah, I mean, Stuart kind of said it before, but like if you watch these movies, like right and spec, let us know about the recommendations. If you just, like if you only find time for one or you've seen some of the movies, like, let us know then, or let us know if you program a film festival of three movies, one from each of us. And, and you know, like, let us know how we did. Yeah. I would be very curious. Did we nail it?

Did we nail it? Did we nail it? Guys, as I mentioned before, this is the last show of the 23 Max Fund drive. And it's been a really great drive so far. We've had Twitch streams, I think Dan participated in some kind of pancake contest. No more details. A very special episode. We had a very special episode. Yeah, we had a very special episode of the Peach Pit.

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And one more time, if you'd like to support the flop house, please head over to maximumfun.org slash join. Beautifully said, beautifully said. Uh, yes, thank you. And thank you to all the listeners who wrote in and got recommendations. I think that this is something like we have a lot of extra ones that we didn't get to. I think this is something that we will revisit in the future. And I will get to maybe some of the other ones that didn't wind up in this batch.

Yeah. This was fun. Yeah. Thank you, Lixmas. It made us think a little bit. And we got to talk about movies we like. Yeah. Yeah.

And thanks to Alex Smith, our producer, he is at Howell Dottie on various socials. But for this episode of The Flop House, I've been Dan McCoy. I'm Stuart Wellington. And I'm Ellie Kaelin. Hi. I remember my name that time. in.