The Flop House - FH Mini 85 - The Peach Pit 3: Art & Coffee

Episode Date: July 22, 2023

Stuart brings back the Peach Pit, everyone's favorite after-show about The Flop House, to quiz The Original Peaches about our opinions on fine art and answer a few questions straight from Stu's DMs.Check out more info about our upcoming season of streaming shows, FLOP TV, and buy tickets!Donate to the Entertainment Community Fund here, to support those affected by the WGA strike.Ever tried Microdosing? Visit Microdose.com and use FLOP for 30% off + Free Shipping.

Hey, and welcome to the Peach Pit. Peach Pit is the popular podcast starring me, your host Stuart Wellington, and it is a podcast all about the original peaches and their podcast, The Flop As. Now today on the Peach Pit, we are going to be doing, wait a minute, no, we're not going to be doing that. Originally, you supposed to be the Peach Pit Presents Mission Impossible Possibility Em emissions, where I talk about all the mission impossible movies and we're going to rank them. An LA, I guess, will a de Shrugger shoulders and talk about the TV show?

I don't know. I don't know if he's ever seen these movies. But instead, I am joined by my co-host Dan Nellayet and because these streaming services and the production companies are being ship eggs, we don't want to recommend and talk about new movies. No, no, no. SAG and the WGA are on strike. So we are going to be talking about other stuff.

That's right. So first, let me introduce my guest. I'm joined by on my left, Dan McCoy. Say, hey, Dan McCoy. Hey, Dan McCoy. And on my right is Elliot Kaylin. Say, hey, Elliot Kaylin. Hey, Elliot Kaylin.

Okay, so I hope you guys don't mind the little change up. I know that I've given you your show notes and you've done all your prep on Mission Impossible. You guys going to be okay talking about something different today. Yeah. I will go along with this fiction and you know what? I'll make the sacrifice for the team. It's quite a curve ball stew. Just as long as I can talk about later in the episode, I can talk about flop TV or upcoming run of monthly live streaming shows tickets available now at theflophouse.simpletics.com. More information later in the show, hopefully.

Well, as a Pete Fitt is a show that's all about promoting the flop house. I feel like promoting the flop house in other ways is appropriate for the Pete fit. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Perfect.

You can do that later. But for now, we're going to be doing something a little bit different. It doing your impression of a kid in a 90s movie. Hell, he hit. Yes. Instead of telling me about how we're, you got more, you got some more bits with it. That was more 90s stuff. Did I ever told you guys that I did that to my older son? I said to him and then I said, not. And he goes, what was that? And I'm like, that was the thing people did in the 90s. They'd say something that wasn't what they meant. And then they go, not efforts. And he goes, why would you. They'd say something that wasn't what they meant. And then they go, not efforts and he goes, why would you do that?

You can't say that. Why would you just say what you meant to say? Do you think like, and make out of them out? And then like wander out into the, like go for a walk, stare off across like a lake? I just walked into the ocean. I just, I just, I just particularly wolfed that. So I started questioning every truth in this life. Was it Emily Dickinson?

Who walked into the river? It was, it was for two. I thought that was, I thought that was toad the wet sprocket. Well, so that's how he got wet, but then he walked out again. Both Al Green and David burned to the river and dropped him in the water. Yeah. And also the big mouth Billy Bass also asked for that. I don't know if it got it.

It means. Yeah. I think it probably expired before it means. That's the river. It took me so long. It was on the most recent sopranos rewatch that I understood what actual song was being sung by that Billy Big mouth bass. You thought it was an original Big mouth Billy bass

at the time of the show. I'm like, wow, does he have any other hits? Am I just looking up on the internet? I was getting nothing. Nada. Okay, so welcome to the Peach Pit. This is gonna be the Peach Purp presents the Fine Art House.

We're instead of talking about flop movies, the flop house guys are gonna be talking about Fine Art. And we're gonna be doing a little game that I like to call Admire, Acquire, or Funeral Pire. That's right. I'm gonna present you with three works of Fine Art and you are going to tell me if you admire it, if you'd like to acquire it.

Or if it's time to put it on the funeral pile. Now it specifically has to be a funeral pile. We can't just burn this art. We have to wait till someone dies and burn it that way. Yeah, that's the good news for you Dan. People are constantly dying. Also constantly being born. It's the circle of life.

I don't doubt that, just seem to be. You have to acquire them as a... Sure. As you know, for a fool. Go. So when I talk about... You just want to pay auction house prices for them and withdraw them on the funeral pyre, yeah.

So obviously, admire means this is something you'd like to look at. And acquire means this is something that you need to look at. You want to see it every day you would want to spend money or maybe hire a cat burglar to get for you. And then funeral pyre, that's right. You're like, I'm done with this piece of shit, throw it in the garbage. Now, the thing is, each, you have to, I'll give you three options and you have to pick one for each.

Unfortunately, some of these are going to be a little bit challenging. And you know, this isn't just a world of chaos. No, no, no, they're going to be organized by the Nile. That's right. So I sent you guys a link and I'll do my best to describe things. So folks at home can Google the results. So they can decide for themselves. Derek, I just look on your laptop.

Yes, you can look on my laptop. That's why I brought my laptop. Thank you. Also, so that I could have my secret stash of pornography. That's all time. I hate you, Neve. In case I need it, secret stash of pornography close to all time. Hate you, need it. In case I need it, it's more of a comfort blanket. It defeats the purpose of it.

Yeah, it's my likeness blanket. Yeah, this, this line is so turned on by that blanket. Yeah. You know, what he didn't want them to take it away from it. They were common law-married, I think. Yeah, yeah. In some states, a blanket and a child can be married after a certain amount of time. A few trolled liberals want.

Okay. So, uh, so when Snoopy would take the blanket from him, do you think he secretly liked being cooked in that way? Or was that really bothered him? I don't know if I'm ready to explore that. I don't think that falls within the purview. The peach grip presents the fine art house. Maybe next episode.

I mean, we are hurting, we are putting the purve in purview. Is that how? That's true. So let's see. Our first category here is, oh fuck. I don't even know what these guys are. I've probably did that before. Okay, so the first one, our first artist is,

let's look at the first slide. That's right. That's Monet and Water Lillies. Yeah. Okay, so we got Monet, we got Ren War. What's that, the skiff? Monet is the subject of the Billy Idol song, Monet Monet, correct?

Yep. I mean, I'm not super, I remember Dan saying some Billy Idol on a cruise ship. That's true. Yeah. He's being a rebel himself. He's saying rebel yell. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah's true. Yeah. Being a rebel himself, he's a rebel yell. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Which is weirdly enough, a very pro-conveteracy song.

Yeah. Yeah. It's very strange. And cradle of love, of course, a Marika-sot painting. And then finally, so we have, we have Monaze Water Lillies, Renoir's The Skiff, and Manaze, the bar at Folly's Bear's Air. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, nailed it in one. Okay. So when the, I have to assume that if the country bears had been a hit movie, they would have done a sequel called like Bears Go to Paris, and they would have been at

the Folly's Bear's Air, or there'd be French bears walking around. Oh, man, that sounds great. Well, I mean, they're still tall. I mean, never know. And they'd stop by the moulin Rouge and it'd be a cow based dance hall. Oh, it's moulin. I'm still going. Disney, when the strike's over, when the strike's over, pay me to write this piece of junk

movie. Okay. So, Elliot, since you're, you're talking the most, let's give this your ranking. Which one do you admire? Which one do you need to acquire? And which ones for the funeral pyre? Okay, I think I admire water lilies in particular. Some people would talk about the way the light plays on the water or whatever, but I really

like the way he gets across the weight of the lilies. I would want to acquire the bar painting, which I've always loved. I think it's a beautiful painting. I love the character of the bartender who she is so uninterested in serving you, which is my experience when I'm at a bar. It's like I'm really at the bar. And of course that you see the room in the mirror behind her is the angle of her back off slightly in terms of the mirror.

Yes, but that's the illusion of painting. It's calling attention to its own artifice. And as much as I love Renoir's other work, I'm going to have to funeral pyre the skiff one because I find it sloppy. Oh, this is going to be boring because I am in complete agreement with your ranking Sally. I, you know, the Renoir one, like I like it. You know, it's, it's only a casualty of the rules of the game. The regular dude. I, I, I, I, I, I, because that's his son, movie. Yeah. Oh, okay.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's because Jean Renoir was the son of a ghostrunner. Yeah. Right. Wow.

That's exciting. That's crazy. That happens sometimes. Making people love babies. Yeah, yeah, I mean, yeah, Ren War, the director was a real nipple baby, yeah. And thinking about the last one, I mean, there's something about the facial expression, Ellie, and I agree with you that really pulls me out of this painting. I once read that like people like photos, worth other people in them, more than just like photos of something like pretty. And I've certainly found this. Dan's saying people are not pretty interesting. It's like people are not pretty.

Another thing that is pretty. And I found this to be true in social media. I post like an amazing photo of something that has no people in it is invariably. I'm just saying, imagine this is my top photo of a non-person subject. It's still going to get less likes than something that is people. There's just something about people that like looking at people. You know, a general post a picture of the like Pyramid's a Giza and you're like, wow, this great work of mankind can't compare to this selfie I took

Post a picture of mankind and I'm like that's a greater work of mankind What he's body's landing. I don't know Do you survive that that what choke slam off of the off of the cage in the cage match thing? We're sure it's gonna cage In the audience what's going on? Okay. Yeah, I think we're all agreement. That's what makes the answer in the audience. What's going on? Okay. Yeah, I think we're all in agreement. I'm with all of y'all.

This was an easy test round. I don't think we have a lot of fighting. The real fighting is going to probably happen in the next round. That's right, where we have persistence of memory, Salvador Dali, followed by Pablo Picasso's Granica, or Frida Kahlo's Henry Ford Hospital. Uh oh. Dan, you go first. You know, I think that I'm, this is probably just Frida Kahlo's painting is possibly the victim of just being less familiar to me.

The other two are such blockbuster paintings and this one, I don't know that I've seen before and I even went to the free to callus exhibit worth the museum aways back. But also maybe your free to fides or maybe I just don't want a painting that has like a floating fias in it. I know this marks me as an oddball. I mean, Guernica is literally a reaction to aerial bombing. Yeah. So the miracle of the recreation of human life is is lower on your scale than the tragic massacring of this. You know what? Yeah, it looks like a human pesquetti.

A lot of people don't know that boy R.D. when he saw Gwernica said, ah, this is what I shall do. I shall dehuman the pesquetti and bring pasta to all. You know, at first I was going to take Gwernica over a persistence of memory because I feel like persistence of memory has been cheapened by a thousand posters and a thousand college dorm rooms maybe. But I will say that having, I have actually seen both of these paintings in person in Madrid during a visit that Audrey and I took right before the pandemic, fortunately,

that Guernica in person, I found less impressive than I expected. Where is this? Really, because it's huge. And person to memory is a pretty small painting. Person to memory is a very small painting, but it didn't strike me as much as it actually does in reproductions. I don't know why. Interesting. Yeah, it I don't know why.

Interesting. Yeah, it was don't really listen to a lot of pink Floyd when he painted this thing. Yeah, that's what that's really why I wanted. I just want to get placed, put on the pink Floyd and stare at this painting. Cool. So Dan, putting the official categories, what do you so your funeral choir? I guess I'm acquiring persistence of memory and admiring where Nikke. Although, you know,

on a different day, who knows? You know, so I'm also going to acquire persistence of memory. Dan, you have struck me to the quick because not in college, but in high school, I had a poster of this on my, on my, I was a big Salvador Dolly buff. And I remember going to the Dolly Museum in St. Petersburg, Florida, and seeing the stuff I had there. It was called Dollywood, right? Yeah, it's called Dollywood.

My family took RV. There's a, it's a Salvador Dolly parton is my favorite singer of all time. I wish that I wish that there was some, I was fast enough to do a Salvador Dolly Dolly parton mash up song. It's like, it's like Jo-Leen, but he's singing about Gala. I think it'd be like working nine, two, five, but there's no way to know what time it is, because these clocks are melting, and I don't know when to leave this job.

Perfect. Perfect. Perfect. Okay, you know. Oh, wow. The master bows to you, Dan. Dan, you've defeated me, yeah. I'll wax my mustache. It is kind of is my trademark. So I think I'm going to acquire persistence memory. I think I'm going to admire the free to call one because that to me is I feel like she's

expressing something a real lived experience of pain. And I find it visually somewhat grotesque, but I think that's what she's going for. You know, when you say when H.R. Geeger stood in front of this and said, free to call us, same law, and it's like, yeah, yeah, the fusion of things in human, sure. And we're in a, I think, I don't want to have to burn it because it isn't major work, but I think it's going to go on the funeral pyre. No choice. And the figures within the paint and the Toronto made up this, yeah.

Some monster. Well, maybe they'll finally be at peace. Yeah. And also and you're saying it's and it was created by a monster. Yeah. Yeah. The problem of Picasso himself was a monster. I mean, 700 dollars also like not a, not probably not a great guy. No, not a good dude. Yeah. I'm going to, I'm going to agree with you. I'm going to admire the free to collar work because it's nice and gross. And I like that. Though I'm going to admire the free to collar work because it's nice and gross and I like that. Though I'm going to say I would want to acquire Guernica because it's huge. This huge. It's a very young, but it's big.

It's going to dominate your apartment. It covers your whole wall. Yeah. Whereas, whereas, whereas, since a memory, you can just put that on a wall with a bunch of other paintings, maybe pictures of trips you've taken. And unfortunately, I've seen a two-wheeled gallery wall with persistence of memory in the middle. Except that thing. But I think it was a great idea to bring together three Spanish speaking artists.

Oh, you're welcome. Yeah. I mean, that wasn't. Thank you, per se. Okay. Time for us to go Baroque, everybody. And we're going to start with Baroque. We are going to go in Baroque if the AMPTP won't pay us what we deserve for our work.

That's really good leading. But we'll talk more about that later. So we're going to talk about my main man. That's right. Peter Paul Rubens. Oh, not my main man. John Hodgman, the master. No, the man from Mayn. Now, Peter Paul Rubens, when they fired Rubens, brought in Mary, the painting suffered,

but the singing got better. I just got to say a hot tape, hot tape. Well, he had to go focus on his sandwiches. Yeah. So really everyone won out. Yeah. Yeah, everybody won out. So we got Peter Paul Rubens.

This is, this is the feast of Akeloos. We got Karavaggio. Uh-oh. That's Judith and the Holofernes. Yeah, classic subject. Look out, buddy. Somebody's having, somebody's furnace. Yeah, classic subject. Look out, buddy. Somebody's having somebody's a real pain in the neck.

And then we got Vermeer girl with a pearl earring. That's a heavy hitter, folks. So starting to show Hanson as the the earring. Pearl. Okay. No, no, Paul. Me a god. Me a god. What a guy in that role. Somebody quickly, somebody, somebody,

somebody, you know, use your computer to make a little computer image of tiny little me or God, making from, yeah, hanging this girl out. It seems convoluted, even for me. That's the perfect Dan McCoy and make sure to sign it, Dan McCoy. Yeah. Should I go first on this one, Dan, since you went first on last one? Yeah, please. I mean, I got to acquire that Caravaggio, the sumptuousness of his textures.

I'm a big, this isn't the, I think it's ever come up in the flop has before, but I'm a big fan of painted fabric on canvas, the way that folds are painted on canvas. The draping of things. The draping, exactly. And he's one of the masters that I love the dark lighting lit just where it needs to be. I love that Judith seems to be disgusted by her own handiwork in murdering Halferness. So I'm going to acquire that one.

And I think I admire this Peter Paul Rubin's feast painting, because there's just so much going on there. You know, you got all the plants, you got all the feasting Greeks who are draped strangely. They look like they're all wearing towels, like they just came out of the swim, you know, and went to this big banquet table. And I'm a sucker. Why don't people dress like this anymore? You know, you mean like new except for like a towel draped over their leg?

Yeah, it's my, it's my, it's your comparison part of the book. I mean, everybody dress that way under their clothes. That's true. Yeah, they're wearing beach towels. Yeah. And I will say, and this is going to be an unpopular, this is going to be an unpopular opinion, but it's just my personal preference for art. I love illustrative kind of classic art. Art that is illustrating historical scenes, mythological scenes, or imaginary cityscapes or things like that. I love art that is kind of an artist's representation of past times. If it's not historically accurate, I like it even more for some reason.

And so, girl, the pearl-earing, beautiful picture, but for me, there's not just not as much going on in there, so I'm going to have to burn it up. Okay. Yeah. You're wrong, Dan. Prove me wrong. No, I'm not the orange. There's no proving. There's no proving.

It's just opinions. I definitely also would want to acquire the caravaggio for the high contrast you're talking about. I don't think that we mentioned the most important thing, you know, like, again, these are famous works of art, but this is a podcast. So perhaps we should be explaining that in this picture, a woman is slicing a man's neck, blood and he is not having a good time all over the place and then there's an older woman who seems to be,

you know, approving of the deed. I love the old woman who's like, yeah, just get a ton, lady. Yeah. She's like, so there's a lot of, hurry up. She is one, she is a moment away from saying, just give me that sword. I'll take care of it. Yeah.

As someone who likes narrative, there's a lot going on in this painting. I appreciate that. It's just, you know, it's just beautifully done. I guess I would admire the girl with the pearl airing because portraiture is not. And like some babe, it's fun. Yeah, there's a lot. I think it is a masterpiece of limiting yourself to a few colors, a few tones.

I think I'm going to change my decision. I think I am going to admire that one because as much as I love the Peter Paul Rubens one, there is, every time I look at growth purlaring, I take it for granted how it feels like it is a single second in time that it feels un-posed in that way. And so I shouldn't take that for granted. Vermeer, I apologize. I've been taking you for granted. Yeah, Vermeer, if you're listening.

If you're listening, Vermeer. The fact that it really does look like she is about to, she is in the middle of a turn that just kind of happened. It feels like a painted snapshot, which especially in the years before photography even existed is an amazing thing to pull off. Yeah, the other one, look, it's beautiful. It's a little too much like, you know, a book of like fantasy postcards to me or something. I mean, that's so you're saying the ultimate compliment. Yeah.

Yeah, I think my taste. It's only this was less like a Boris Vallejo painting. What? I mean, if there were like, what are you swirzing? Ladies clinging to legs of barbeque. If only they could be for Zett eyes this a little bit. So Dan, you're saying you would like it if the death dealer was just right. I like it if you right over everybody there. It went further in that direction.

If it pushed past the good taste it's in into like active like bad taste. I would like it more. Uh, yeah, I think you all know me. I got to acquire this Peter Paul Rubens added to my collection. I've got your collection. Oh yeah, give me them big, bumpy bodies. Paul Rubens added to my collection. I've ever got your collection. I've ever got your collection. Oh, yeah, give me them big, bumpy bodies. I love it.

And then I just love how like filled every little corner seems it's filled with like tiny little details. It's great. I love it. Even at the top, he's like, there's no room for people in the trees. I'll put some birds up there. But some boys, why not? Of course, Caravaggio, I admire that thing. It's beautiful. Love

it. Sorry, girl, the pearl earring. You're going in the dump. Oh, wow. Guys, we have one final round before we take a little break. This final round's going to be a little bit different. Instead of a very specific work of art, we are going to be talking about the career of entire artists. Wow. Oh, this is geared right toward you two peaches. We are talking about EC Comics artists. Okay. We're going to start with, I'm afraid I wouldn't know enough.

We're going to start with, Ma Man Jagdavis. Oh. Wonderful. Wally Wood. Mm-hmm. Harvey Kertzmann. Yeah. Harvey Kertzmann. This. Harvey Kertzmann.

This is tough. This is tough, damn. I think you're going to have to go first. I think I know my answer, but I think you're going to have to go first. So for talking about the art of it, yeah, this is my argument. I'm going to acquire Jack Davis. I think he has just like such a wild career of, you know, doing these horror comics and then later, mad and posters like he is becoming the master of the lots of people chasing something. Yeah, the king of the 1970s celebrity caricature.

It's amazing how, so almost, he does, there is a few, he has a few great movies that he did posters for. But so many of his movies, there is such a wide gulf between the amount of artistry he put into the poster caricature and the movie that he is creating a poster for. Yeah.

And I'm gonna admire Wally Wood who I think is one of the most beautiful draftsmen to ever do comics. And I'm putting Kurtzman on the pyre only because I think he was much more valuable as a like innovator in the form, like the way he would lay out panel to panel, then for the artwork itself. That's my argument. I'm going to, I feel similarly about Kurtzman. Unfortunately, I'm going to have to put, if you were asking me, who is the most important of these three artists, it would be Harvey Kurtzman by a long ways, as an editor, as a writer, as a designer.

But you're right, I don't find him as attractive draftsman as the other ones. So Harvey Kurtzman is the greatest of these in terms of his impact on the field. I'm not going to say I want to acquire the Wally Woods, because I love Wally Woods art. And I find it so, like, there's something so clean about it and the way he uses shapes I really love. And yeah. Specifically his pornographic comics, this way. Well, that's the thing is, the thing I don't love as much is, or like that thing he did

where it's all the Disney characters having sex with each other. Like the one that Wally would at a certain point in his career just took a hard turn into soft core. And that, because that was what he could get work with. But if you look at those comics, they're beautifully done. Like, no, they're lovely. It's gorgeous. It's just like the, they don't really, and they also don't really work that well as pornography

because they're just like, but if you look at like, just the, if I, but if I get a page that would call them sexy, per se. Yeah. You're like, no, that's a well rendered naked lady. But if I could get a page from one of his dare devil issues or there's a doctor doom story he did for Marvel that I know it's not from and he was very briefly working at Marvel and then he could not stand working for Stanley and so the two of them had a falling out. But he's the one who designed dare devil's red costume, the one that he's worn since. Oh. That's cool.

Eight or something. And uh, or, I don't remember what they should remember this. But, but Jack Davis, I think I don't admire, although I'd love to acquire his stuff too, but I'm gonna admire just because I love a lot so much of Wally wood stuff.

But, as Jack Davis is like, uh, I don't know if you guys are gonna agree with me on this. His art's a little busy. It is a little busy. Wait, Jack Davis is already busy. Just a tiny bit, just a tiny bit. Everything's dripping. I think I'm on the side of Dan now. Look at Jack Davis,

it's starting to like, what's with all the lines Rob Liefeld? I would want to acquire Jack Davis. I admire Wally Wood and unfortunately Harvey Kertzmann too much of an innovator in other areas of comics. Now before we get to our sponsors and ads, one of the reasons why we are talking about something that's not about movies is because of the WGA and SAG strike. Elliott, if people want to support the WGA, where can they go? That's a very great question. If people want to support the WGA, the best thing you can do is go to entertainmentcommunity.org.

That's right. Entertainmentcommunity.org used to be called the Actors Funds. Now it's the Entertainment Community Fund. And that is the place that anyone who works in the entertainment industry, not just writers, but support staff, technical crew, actors, everyone in front of them behind the camera can go when they need financial assistance. During this time, the most important way that you can support us beyond just making your

voices heard and selling off whatever shares of those companies you have so that the price goes down. If there's a big sell off and no one's buying and the price goes down, that's the greatest thing you could do. But that's taking on a real financial impact on yourself. So don't do that. But the thing that will help us the most is by helping us have the resources to get through this strike. This is a game of attrition.

The AMPTP is hoping that we will crack before they crack. And we want them to crack before we crack. Somebody said they want you to lose your homes. This was the article in, as we're recording this, it's the, it's one week after the article that came out in, in deadline, the, the, uh, sent the owned by the same company that is involved in the studios, uh, media brand, uh, new source, uh, in which an anonymous executive said, we're going to keep this strike going with the writers until at least October, at once they start losing their apartments

and their houses, then we can dictate the terms to them. That is one, bonkers. Every writer is used to being out of work for a certain amount of time. It's just part of the business. And two, if you think being out of work for six months will cause us to lose our homes, then you are admitting to me

that you've been underpaying us for years, that you think that we are that close to the poverty line. So we may need a little bit of help though, and if we do, for those workers who need that assistance, entertainmentcommunity.org is the place that they can go to apply for it, and there's no shame in doing that, and it's where you can go to make a donation of any size whatsoever, ear market for their TV and film production fund, and that will be there for us if we need it, when we need it, so that we can keep this strike going, as long as we need to, to get equitable payment

and treatment for not just us, but for the actors, and for everyone else who has contracts coming up because the gains we make in this strike and in this negotiation are gains everyone's going to be able to make, and that's why we're doing this. This is the most and the strongest union solidarity I've seen certainly in my 15 years in the writer's guild. But the solidarity between unions, and I'm very excited about it. And I think we can really make a change in the way that Hollywood treats the people who work for it.

I think it was funny that I saw a lot of people arguing like, well, yeah, I mean, that house thing. I mean, that's just what a strike is. It's like, we're trying to exert financial hardship on the side, you know, forum games. We're like, yeah, in the broad outlines, sure. Like, it's not surprising that they're trying to choke off the writers. Like, that is obviously what's going on. But the fact that at a time where, you know, writers, median incomes have fallen like 20 plus percent and CEOs keep

climbing, to think that it's a good idea to state, hey, we want you to lose your house is just sort of a measure of, I don't know, awfulness that I just baffling to be that thought, this is going to be a winning strategy to put this out there in the world. I mean, it is this that any every, every strike or every labor action is about a negotiation between labor and management over management wanting to pay as little as possible and having as much control as possible and labor wanting to get paid as much as possible and have as much of their own control as possible. And that's the way the game. That's life in capitalism. It super sucks, but that's the system we live in. But to take it to the point of saying,

not just we're gonna wait them out and we're gonna get them back to table, but to say that we want them to start losing where they live, because then we can have them, then they'll take whatever we give them. That is taking it to a new severity level and an unfair level. And also it's gross.

And it totally backfired because everyone I've talked to since then talks about how they were so infuriated that they wanted to strike, they wanted to keep striking even more. It was the thing that someone, a bad guy does in a movie where they, they threaten a family member of the hero and the hero gets berserker strength. The last moment it looked like they were going to give up. And now suddenly they have to win. And so it was like, well, now this is about keeping my family under a roof. Like this is crazy.

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get out of my face. I don't want to. I just want to say, sometimes people, like the argument gets wound up and this famous writer makes this salary or this like, these people, look, the median writer's pay is literally one hundredth of what entertainment CEOs are making right now. The guilds are just asking for paid commissarate with the money that is made for the industry.

Yeah. Less than 100 of what they're being paid. It's that it's a and even the people you think are doing what one of the one of the most informative things I feel like about this strike to other writers as well has been all of us realizing, oh, even the people that we see as successes are not getting paid, come measure it with the success that they are creating for the studios to to the point of, the number of showrunners of big shows are like, yeah, I don't know how I'm gonna pay my bills.

I don't get paid a lot for this. And I spent, this was two years in my life and I got paid, you know, X amount and that comes out to, you know, it's sometimes people, after commissions to representatives, things like that in taxes, sometimes people who run shows are making less than $50,000 a year. And so that's what they're taking home. So it's not the days of you get to write crappy TV and then you go home to your mansion and you're

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John Buddy and Big Guy are all the same person and happy. Happy 47th year. No, it's confusing. You're like, how could a buddy be a big guy? I think I'll see John. Well, the big guy is a buddy be a big guy? I think it was a John. Well, the big guy is a buddy of Rusty, the boy robot, right? That's true. Buddy and big guy are two things that I call bar patrons when I don't remember their name. That's a trick of the trade.

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and the original peaches. Joining me today are two of the original peaches, Dan McCoy and Alia Kaelin. Thanks so much for joining me, guys. Yeah, this, this is an interesting question. I thought that the Peach Bit was about the flop house, and yet this one is about art now. Is the branding getting all confused?

Well, actually, we're doing something a little bit different here today, guys. Okay. Today, we are doing the peach pit presents Carpe D.M.s, where I reach into my big bag of D.M.s I've received here at the peach pit. And I'm going to pose some questions to you two peaches now that I have you on the line. How does that sound? So are we not doing the pictures anymore? We don't. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, so my go-to coffee order is a drip coffee, black, no sugar. Wow, okay. Plain Jane, Elliot. Bitter, just like life in the Midwest.

I don't like coffee, so my go go to coffee order is a chocolate croissant or a chocolate to a cookie if they've got a particularly big one. Now, when you order a chocolate croissant, do you order it like that? Or do you order it as a pan, chocolate lot? I say chocolate croissant because I know there are people in my life who say croissant regularly and it doesn't. It feels like such a put on. Even though they're your loved ones, you're like, no, yeah, I like just say Cresson, like an unsophisticated American. I know that's what you are. Take off that beret, Sammy. Yeah, that's great. Mine is a flat white with oat milk. That's my preferred. Give me, give me.

Now, here's a follow up to that question. We're still, these are the softball questions. If you were, imagine you are in a coffee shop, it's busy and you're standing behind. I'm calling it. I would superstar actor Nicholas Cage, who is supporting the sagged right by not attending press events. Now, you're behind Nicholas Cage. What is his coffee order? What do you think Nicholas Cage orders at a coffee shop? I'm going to say a quadruple espresso. I'm going to say a quadruple espresso. And then when he takes the cup away, he takes out his own snake and squeezes the venom out of it. And it was a drip into the cup. Just three drops.

Wars too much, but three gets into that Kabuki acting Zen mode that he needs to be. Okay, so Nicholas Cage, if you're listening to this obviously, write in and tell us how close we are. If you have been behind Nicholas Cage at a coffee shop or served him coffee, feel free to write in and give us the insight. Please, I would be so excited. Yeah, I would love to hear that. Now, on a recent, Fly Pals mini,

you guys admitted that you're both into drawing and you know what? Me, Stuart Wellington, I am also a bit of a little little artist as well. So who would you, who are your biggest artist, artistic inspirations? How do you mod, who is like the model or influence of your your drawing style?

Oh boy, that's a tough one. Like I grew up reading a lot of funny animal comics. So like there's a lot of like, like, like, that kind of thing. Well, I got a lot from down. I'll go and, uh, I'm not going to come in. Pogo and the dot in the dot comics. Uh, I don't know if they're the, like, destroyer duck.

I don't know if they really look like my art. I, like, my art goes all over the place. Sometimes it's more clean and sometimes it's full of lines. And, uh, even though he's a difficult man with a lot of problems like the liney or side of my art has certain crumb qualities sometimes. I- And you're usually eating while you do it so you get- Yeah, I get a lot of comments all over the place. And you're riding around on a woman's ass.

You know why wish I could- That's the main similarity is the focus on butts. The person I wish I could draw like his Jaime Hernandez, because he's the greatest of all time, sure. There's just like the bold blocks of black and the inking, very clean look, very well-posed. It's hard to imagine artists who does as much with as few, with as little lines, as few lines as I'm trying to.

Do you think he's somebody who like, like takes a long time penciling or more is like sweatsovers inking? Like I know like Jeff Smith takes a long, like a long time penciling, but when it comes to inking, he just bangs it out. I think that I could be wrong, though. I think that something like that. You're like, I know this, but I could be wrong.

I feel like I read in an interview where it was like talking about how like how, you know, he, because Jeff Smith's art is so like super clean. Yeah. And similar to, I mean Hernandez, fairly simple. And that it's... Although his bone went along, he got weirdly enamored of putting tiny lines all over the place with light balls.

But I think that there was a thematic reason for it because the story itself was getting more serious and less funny and more intense as it went on. So kind of makes sense. My guess is that I bet that the two of them spend a lot of time on the composition and layout. Yes. I bet they spend a lot of time laying out their panels. I mean, her name is especially because he's a master panel layout and page. I would say that too, because like my experience of like sometimes

I'm like sketching and I'll like, you know, this is close enough to it and I will correct all of these little things as I ink. Like I will be able to see as I ink., you know, this is close enough to it. And I will correct all of these little things as I ink. Like I will be able to see as I ink. Like, well, that relates to that, not quite the way I have it. You know, I need to make adjustments, you know. But with something as precise as that, I think he probably really locks down the drawing. What's your, what's your inking tool choice?

So you a brush guy? I have started using almost exclusively brush pens. There are a lot of like Japanese brands of brush pens that are very good. And I just like having the the variable line without having to build it up myself by, you know, going over things. Yeah, I'm still, I'm such a sucker for crow quills, though, and like, they're great, but that's a fuss. That's a fuss. Doing all your fine lines first,

and then you're like medium lines as the quill becomes more and more stretched out. Yeah. Save your big fat lines for the end. That's cool. For me, my big influences are Dan Klaus, Evan Dorken, and Charles Burns, like those big, heavy blacks, and the panel composition that Dan Klaus does. Yeah. Yeah. Those guys were big. Despite my content, I would do had nothing

to do with anything those guys did, but like they're just huge. No, we all know Dan Kclows' war hammer work. Yeah, that's particularly impressive. That was what my comics were all about. We're more hammer guys. Ali, did you say? No, I mean, I also don't draw like most of the artists that I like. I feel like most of them are well so far beyond me.

And I have spent years letting my ability to draw atrophy. And it's going to take me a long time to get it back up to where I would like it to be. But I would think probably like as boring as it is that a Jack Kirby is a big, big, like kind of influence on the way I think about shapes and forms and things like that. And also it's a lot, he's, you know, it's not easy to draw exactly like Jack Kirby, but it is easy to draw similar to Jack Kirby because he was so much about, so much more about force and about impact than he was about, you know, specific proportion, let's say. Yeah, yeah, I think that's right.

Certainly more than like realism. Yes, I mean, I, I, it's, I, it's easier to draw in the style of Jack Kirby than it is to draw in the style of one of his, someone who used to draw like him, like Barry Windsor Smith or something like that. Like it's hard to jump in and do a Barry Windsor Smith type picture, even though you look at his old drawings when he was Barry Smith and he looks a lot like Kirby. Yeah, just jump in and do a Bernie Wrightson picture. Well, I wish. I wish.

And my eyes as well. How do I try every strand on a cobweb? This is very difficult. From memory. Okay, so despite, you know, we're not, we're trying out to promote movies now, but we can't help it. We got to talk a little bit about movies. You guys all have favorite movies, Elliot's is taking a pillow, one, two, three, Dan

Coby. Dan, if you were to say you have a favorite movie, if you were going to introduce a friend to a favorite movie, what movie would you be like? You need to see this. Let's go with North by Northwest. Sure, and I'll go with a reason one. I don't know, maybe the Susperia remake, just to make people mad. And if you were going to introduce a friend of this movie, you have to pick one of three circumstances to show them.

And these are, let's say, not the best circumstances, but this is your only chance to get your friend to check out this favorite movie of yours. Would you show them the movie A, projected on the wall of a fret house during a fret party, B, watched on a phone in the backseat of a car with two hungry and tired children on a road trip. Or three, watched on a plane after it's been hijacked

by terrorists. I'm gonna say three. It has. Okay. Dan just loves watching movies on plans. I knew as soon as I gave that up. Oh, yummy, yummy. As eyes lit up.

Oh, look, presuming the, I mean, if the terrorists are allowing you to still watch movies, like, it's a long flight. They got to entertain you somehow. All of the distractions, you know, the immediate distractions are gone, just like a general sense of like unease in your stomach is what you're contending with. So you're paying more attention to the movie, and I think you need that movie to distract you, piece of escapism to keep you busy while this is unfolding. Dan's like, I should have said my favorite movie was executive decision.

I mean, there's a plane scene in Northland. But it is so divorced from the context of like, yeah, plane hijacking. So, yeah, I think it's interesting that you said you'd be paying more attention to the movie in a situation like that. When I think you'd probably find it hard to pay attention, but perhaps this is like the story of the man who is chased onto a branch by a tiger and he's about to fall off a cliff and he sees one strawberry growing off of that branch and he eats it and it's the most delicious strawberry he's ever had in his life because he's so focused on it.

Maybe it's like that. We're not here to hear this story. Let me just make it up. No, this is an old saying, but I think I once I first heard it and I sort of king of the Hill. We're always in resides. I'm disappointed in doing a cool voice, but that's fine. That's maybe next time. Maybe next time.

Are these still DM questions or? Yes, these are all DM questions. I'm going to say taking Palma to three projected on the wall that fret party because it's a loud movie. You'll be able to hear it over that stuff. You need to see it big. And also, they're all going to stop partying and start watching the movie once they hear it over that stuff. You need to see it big. And also, they're all gonna stop partying and start watching the movie once they hear all that

squaring. Yeah. This is the worst way to watch the movie. I guess I got no choice. I gotta make my friend watch the spirit in the back of a car with two kids. No, that's the worst way to see a movie. That's the worst way to see a movie.

Hey. Okay. Now, before we wrap up, we got one final question. One of the things that we are to dudes on the internet seem obsessed with is AI. Now, has there ever been a movie where AI is the good guy? Uh, her? I think okay. Her?

I mean, AI is not a bad guy in her, but it's not that kind of movie, you know? Yeah, well, no, well, I think that still counts. What do you mean? That's true. Yep. Doesn't have to be a movie where like AI is good fighting another thing like it's a hero. Yeah. I mean, I think I mean, I think I think she is the hero of that movie because she transcends,

you know, being locked into Lane said, walking remix. Yeah. I guess so. I guess so. I guess do it. You're right. That Jarvis is often the hero in the, in the Avengers Iron Man movies. And then he becomes, and he becomes vision.

Yeah. Vision is good enough to wield the mule near. So yeah. So it's that's bonkers. I mean, I didn't get out of it. It's all like that's been reticent. When did that happen? That's how you know that he's good when he shows up in my tron. It's a pretty vendors agent. I got a bit of to be honest, I so they do, they spend so little time on vision in that movie. I've only seen a movie once, Age of Ultron, that they spend so little time on him in that movie that I've only seen a movie once Age of Ultron that they spend so little time on him after he's born that I kind of forgot

everything he does other than occasionally zap and bots for those with his lasers. Yeah. And that was also in a movie that very specific specifically has an evil AI in it. Yes, exactly. Much like the AI in the real world. Yes, evil that's the thing is that I feel like there's so few examples of, it's like a weird thing to cape for when almost every example of AI in movies is bad. Well, I guess the difference, it really isn't that AI in the real world is evil, but the

people who use it are either evil or oblivious to what human life should be like. Yeah, right now it's chaotic neutral I would say. Right now it's the, you know what it is? Right now it's Chappy. It's just Chappy. It's a baby. It doesn't know what it's doing. So it's easy for a bunch of trash wrap bank robbers to tell it to commit crimes and hurt people.

And Chappy is like, oh, this fun, this fun. Chappy, love Mommy Daddy. And that's what AI is right now. The people who are in charge of the companies, AI is like, you Mommy Daddy and they're like, yeah, we are. Take people's jobs. They don't want those jobs. Oh, me good.

Me free them from jobs. That kind of thing. So. I guess Johnny five is a good AI. Okay, so we only get, if we only get, if we get Johnny five, I get it. Johnny five should be writing all the movies, right? No, not at all. I mean, what he should be doing is he should be, he should be chasing after, after Diamond Thieves, basically, that thing he does best, yeah. So you think AI has a strong case for being head of law enforcement. Well, you've all seen

Robocop, right? We get the competing visions of the... No problem with that. He's 2.09, who's great at it. He's still good. Yeah, I'm sure that executive issue, it's the beginning. I'm sure it was guilty of something. You know, it would be a bad boardroom. That's true, yeah. And he doesn't make dinosaurs.

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