The Flop House - Flop House Classic - No Deposit

Episode Date: July 10, 2023

In honor of our upcoming 400th episode, we're picking some classics to revisit!Elliott introduces  NO DEPO$IT, the film that introduced us to Frank D'Angelo.Originally released as episode 212  on 09....03.2016--**apologies for any sound issues/wrongheaded past statements-- we hope to have improved since then!

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello, Floppa's fans for our 400th episode. We are each releasing an episode we particularly liked that we thought was particularly funny from our past vast back catalog. And for me, it was hard not to go with this episode. So I did. It's called No Deposit and it's a special piece of work. It came to us from some fans whose names I've unfortunately forgotten, but I'm sure Stuart remembers them. And they pressed a DVD into his hand and they said, you have to do this one.
Starting point is 00:00:27 And it was this strange self-congratulatory, self-saint-izing, self-canonizing movie from a very... it seems unpleasant man named Frank DiAngelo, a Canadian beverage magnate who decided he wants to be a saintly gangster on film. And part of the joy of doing the flop house has been being able to discover crap like this, whether our fans lead us to it, or we stumble on it ourselves, and having a place to talk about it, and have fun about it. I think it's a really funny episode. There's a lot of really good jokes in it. And it's funny to listen to it now and hear how in the episode we talk about
Starting point is 00:01:01 oh, we've been doing this show for nine years. It's been nine years already. When at this point, we've been doing the show for almost twice that. So those young boys in there, they don't even know what they're in for. And you can really hear the joy in those young boys' voices before they'd been beaten down by another seven or so years of doing bad movies.
Starting point is 00:01:19 So this is no deposit, a movie I never would have heard of if we weren't doing the flop house. And I shouldn't be glad that I know about it, but I kind of am because it's a special form of narcissistic vanity project. And it was a lot of fun to talk about and to relive us talking about it. And I hope you enjoyed the episode too. Thank you so much for being with us all these years. And now, without further ado, a flop house classic, no deposit. Hey, everyone. It's small timber, and we watched no deposit.
Starting point is 00:01:52 What movie is this? It's so small, it might not even exist. Did I get the name in the movie right? I think so. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I think so.
Starting point is 00:02:04 Check the DVD. And yes. Hey everyone and welcome to the flop house, I'm Dan McCoy. Woo-wee, it's small Vember and I'm Stuart Wellington. And I'm Elliot Kaelin, being real small for small Vember. So wait, so do you live in Lylell, shoebox? I live in a little matchbox. Oh wow, you're even smaller than I thought, small for small member. So, wait, so do you live in like a little shoe box? I live in a little match box. Oh wow, you're even smaller than I thought small, very tiny, I'll hop in your pocket. You won't know I'm there.
Starting point is 00:02:53 Oh, so you can just like a flea or something? Yeah, I have super bug jump. They're spying on me while I'm changing. A little bit. I call up your chest hair in the middle of the night when you're sleeping. I think up your chest hair in the middle of the night. I'm just sleeping. I think I saw a up all night movie where a guy was crawling around in somebody's pubes
Starting point is 00:03:11 like that, but they were like, he was super tiny. So it was like, honey, I sure, the kids. Like, he was like, I'm the real head of a drinking man. Yeah, I think that's what the movie was. No, it's like honey, I sure, I think kids. Yeah, he was the poop scene. And when Rick and Rana sexually drops the kids in his pants. Yeah. Yeah, the fluke scene and I when Rick and Ranna's accidentally drops the kids in his pants.
Starting point is 00:03:25 Yeah, and they have to traverse his jungle of a bush. I can only assume. Just as in my off crabs. Just like in the real like actual like actual crab. Yeah, like in the Rudyard Gippling classic, the jungle bush. In which, locally, those do some changes. Uh-huh. He gets real small and comes around in a bush.
Starting point is 00:03:50 Exactly. Yeah. And burden the hand is worth two in the bush. Yeah, I've been told. By who? I don't know. So what do we do here on the side? You guys got to work.
Starting point is 00:04:01 You parole officer. To that. I don't know. I don't think I've actually been told that. You see two birds in the bush. You drop that bird in your hand and you go for them because two is more than one. While he's doing that, I'm going to pick up the bird that he dropped. More bird for me.
Starting point is 00:04:14 Okay, but are you just going to pick up one or is there a second bird for you to grab? It depends on how many he catches. Okay. Kind of bird is this one. Yeah, why don't I want it so much? But could you can eat it? Yeah, but more companionship like a pigeon like a wormy pigeon gross One pigeons are delicacy all over the world Two why is it wormy is it dead already in that case don't bother with it?
Starting point is 00:04:37 Not the nothing not the challenge you think it is. Yeah, yeah stuff waving around your hand It put it down. That's disgusting. Where did you even get that? For those who can't see, because you're listening to this, Dan is holding the Wormy corpse of a pigeon and it's just waving it around. Yeah, his name's Edgar and he's my friend. Don't pretend it's a back scratcher. Don't stop doing prop work with it. Now it's a phone. I get it. Yeah. Now it's a mirror. Now it's a microphone you're singing old duop tunes into.
Starting point is 00:05:04 Now you're telling it to talk to the hand, I guess. This is from the new show, whose corpse is it anyway? You get a new improv with dead things. That's like that old horror movie, what children shouldn't do in probably dead things. That's right. So what's small Vembrer Danics? Well, explain what this podcast is and then explain what's small Vembrer.
Starting point is 00:05:27 Well, small Timber as I meant to name it for my tongue slip. Unfortunately, it's a real champion at the bit, champion at the bit situation, where Pidance will tell you, also pronounce Pidance correctly, is they will tell you it's...
Starting point is 00:05:43 Pidance will tell you it's pronounced Pidance. They will tell you it's... Penance will tell you it's pronounce patterns. They will tell you it's champing at the bit or you've got another think coming. But real people say chomping at the bit and you've got another thing coming because they make more sense. They're better. So much as the head and the...
Starting point is 00:05:57 Equal sense. In the ivory... You've got another think coming. No one talks about having something. It's a good thing. You have a thought. You can say you have another thought coming. No one talks about having something. You have a thought. You could say you have another thought coming, but maybe.
Starting point is 00:06:07 Remember what thing do you have coming? A cum-upence. Another idea. That's the wonderful thing. The wonderful thing about thingers, Dan, is that thingers are wonderful things. A thing can be anything. That's the word thing means.
Starting point is 00:06:19 It means anything or a hand that just crawls around on its own or a bit of rock man who smokes cigars before Marvel decided it's heroes didn't smoke cigars anymore. And deep down, even though it looks like a rock monster man, he's got a really rock monster. Man, he's got a really good soul. You know? Sure he's a good guy.
Starting point is 00:06:43 He's still Benjamin J. Grimm, his Ampoutunia's favorite nephew, the Everloven Blue-eyed thing. Good soul, you know, sure, he's a good guy. He's still Benjamin J. Grimm is an Ampettunia's favorite nephew, the Everloven Blue-eyed thing, whereas my son calls him the anything or the something. He doesn't quite wrap his mind around the idea of the guys just called the thing. But Dan, you and your ivory tower Ivy League world maybe say small timber. All right, but us on the streets The everyday folk folk living their lives and just trying their best to get by,
Starting point is 00:07:08 we say, we say small timber. Nuclear. We say nuclear. We say, uh, library. Mm-hmm. We say, foliage. We say, washroom. I say, washroom.
Starting point is 00:07:19 I say, turl it. And I say, small timber. Okay. A turl it is half turl, half toilet. It's a living. It's a living. and I say small-vamper. Okay. A turlid is half turtlene have toilet. It's a living. I've seen a teenage mutant in Turtlene. So small-vamper is what is it?
Starting point is 00:07:35 What are we doing this podcast on a small-vamper? So normally we like to punch up. We like to make fun of big movies or at least movies that got a wide release in theaters. Movies were the people who made them go and live in fancy houses. Yeah, but in small time we, you know, we throw away our morals and decide to take on smaller movies, real passion projects. Yeah, and they're usually the best. And boy, howdy.
Starting point is 00:08:01 Oh, gee, Willikers. Guys, now this is an example of why we do this podcast. Why don't you tell a story of how we came across this movie? Okay. So, which is called No Deposit. I'm gonna check on that right now. We're watching a lot of holy work there with the chair. That sound of Dan. I mean, I also can just look it up online.
Starting point is 00:08:25 Oh, wow, keeps going. That's Dan dropping the DVD box. Up, Dan's picking up a slide whistle. Oh, no, don't open that closet. Climb, climb, climb, climb. All right, guys. He's riding an elephant back. I confirmed it's called no deposit.
Starting point is 00:08:40 Thanks for the radio's audio theater fact checking session. So Stuart, tell us the origin of no deposit. Thanks for the radio audio theater fact checking session. So Stuart, tell us the origin of notepad. Okay, now I have been accused in the past of having a suspect memory. And I think this story is going to be probably the same as all the other ones. So please write in and tell me that I was wrong. But back in July after one of our live shows some fellows from Canada came up and
Starting point is 00:09:10 Tric and Dave Thomas I can only assume and they Yeah, yeah, they were not wearing their trademark tukes drinking their Elson or beer and they were these two guys came up and had some very nice things to say about the show. They said they were involved in the film industry. And they also stuffed a DVD in your pants. In my pants and I'm like, hey guys, hands off the merchandise. And then I rolled some dice on the floor.
Starting point is 00:09:41 And then, so they, and they explain the real gun show turns. That's right. Yeah. So they explain the, that this movie is this like passion project, not unlike one of your faithful findings, one of your the rooms. And they explain some other stuff that I kind of just tuned out because I was riding high having just done a show with my favorite guys. Well, let's explain a little bit about it now.
Starting point is 00:10:08 This is a Frank D'Angelo film. Now, Frank D'Angelo may be familiar to our Canadian listeners, as an entrepreneur, he owns a company that has an energy drink. And for a while, he- On surge, I believe. Surge? I think it's surge. Okay, that's a million dollars. That it's Canadian, so it's spelled S-E-R-G-E.
Starting point is 00:10:26 It's a French Canadian. It's a French Canadian. It's a French Canadian drink. But I don't know that it is Serge, but he's a successful drink manufacturer. He had a brewery for a while, which failed. He has a band that's named after his brewery, which he sings in. And he's also... Is it coming from the band?
Starting point is 00:10:40 A steelback brewery or the steelback two-four or something like that? And I think it's Steelback. And he also, I mean, we don't have to get into this, but it was like, we are watching the movie, and I'm like, this is crazy. The guy's starring in the movie, he directs and writes it, and he's terrible. And he's just some businessman.
Starting point is 00:10:55 And then I'm looking him up on Wikipedia, and there's the part about his sexual assault charge that he had to face in court. And I'm like, this is less fun all of a sudden. Yeah, though, it does explain why every woman in the film is a harpy, probably. Oh yeah, that's true. Except his loving girlfriend or wife, no wife.
Starting point is 00:11:10 And he also hosts a talk show that he pays to Aaron Canada. Uh huh, what's the name of the talk show? The being Frank show. Ha ha ha ha. And so he's a guy who like has money and decided he wants to make movies and he's made a couple now. And his trademark is that he hires real, relatively big name actors to be them.
Starting point is 00:11:30 Now before you end up with the big name actors. I mean, that's most hollywood director's trademark is hiring big name actors. Yeah, but not usually your passion project guys who are totally outside the film industry, your Neil Brains, if you will. They don't have the bus. Where with all to.
Starting point is 00:11:43 And but like this guy is like, it's, he's not as crazy as Neil Brains, if you will. They don't have the bus. Where with all to. And but like this guy is like, it's he, like he's, he's not as crazy as Neil Brain. It's like if Neil Brain, it was on meds. Like it was taking his meds and had an accurate view of reality, except that he still thought he was a great artist and the greatest guy in human history. That's Frank D'Angelo.
Starting point is 00:12:02 Okay. I want to note, before we get into the big stories. You want to know what love is? MmAngelo. OK. I want to note before we get into the big stars. You want to note what love is? Yeah, I want to note what love is. That the movie is totally scored by Frank D'Angelo songs. And that the DVD, the Blu-ray that we were given, has a copy of Frank D'Angelo's album title, Look Into the Stars. And it's accompanied by a photo of Frank D'Angelo's album title, Look Into The Stars.
Starting point is 00:12:25 And it's accompanied by a photo of Frank D'Angelo that looks to have been taken about 20 years earlier than this movie was made. Now, Frank D'Angelo is a true auditor. He wrote the movie, he directed it, he stars in it, he cast it, he gave himself a story by credit, which seems redundant when he wrote the screenplay too. And just to point out the soundtrack that is recorded by Frank Yangelo, or I like
Starting point is 00:12:49 to go home Frank Steely, the Angelo, because he provides some poppy upbeat jazzy little renditions of songs like Hallelujah, which is always great in a movie. And living let die was credit at the end, but I don't remember hearing it. Yeah, he must have disguised it really well, one of the earlier scenes. But what I've always wanted is a jazzy poppy up tempo version of howl, oh yeah, by the way. Yeah, exactly. You're like, um, Kelsey Grammer's not available to singing this. I guess Frank DeAngela is our next best bet. So, but there's there were no stars in the heavens, or rather Toronto. The Toronto skies,
Starting point is 00:13:27 because even though it's the set in Brooklyn, it's very clearly not aside from the huge swaths of stock footage of the Manhattan skyline, the movies in the film, but there are all these stars. There's Paul Sorvino, there's Eric Roberts, there's Doris Roberts,
Starting point is 00:13:40 and I have to assume what was one of the last roles, but who's there? Is that a bald win I see? There's, well, we'll get to him. There's Robert Lozia, playing a Holocaust survivor. Michael Madsen, there's Daniel Margo Kitter, Daniel Baldwin playing the most anti-Semitic character I've seen in a film since Triumph of the Wheel. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:58 There's Peter Coyote. There's all they like. There's a real Coyote. No, there's no Cote from the road on our cartoons And I wanted to say that Dominique Swain is in it But in the end credits she's listed as Domeek Swain So that's either a type of or it's just someone who looks like Dominique Swain And has a very similar name. It must have been really awkward at the flashy red carpet from here
Starting point is 00:14:18 We're Dominique Swain showed up and they're like I'm sorry, ma'am You know, are you Domeek a Swain? No, I'm Dominic Swain. Well, you're not in this film. But it's the story of two men, one who, who got, who through hard times falls on the wrong side of the tracks and takes the wrong road. And one who is the greatest billionaire saying to ever live.
Starting point is 00:14:39 Although we assume to the beginning of the movie that it was a mobster, just entirely based on the way he talked. And look, he also... He sleeps wearing a platinum watch and platinum bracelets and a huge pinky ring. And gold chains. And gold chains and like, we're on from New Jersey. A big pinky ring means you're either in the mob or you want people to think you're in the mob.
Starting point is 00:14:59 Yeah. Or a ringo star visiting. I mean, yeah, he doesn't show up in New Jersey that often. I really wanted to have some of this pizza and so much about. What else do you do in New Jersey? Pretty much it. You want to go to a diner? Sure.
Starting point is 00:15:17 You got a lot of them here on your turn bike. You got to pay your dues if you want to play the blues. And where else do you pay your dues than a new jersey? Yes, I decided to take the family down to Wildwood. Really? Okay. I mean, seems like you could afford to go somewhere much, much greater than that.
Starting point is 00:15:36 You're gonna take a swing by Sandy Hook. That's Sandy Hook, but he's anglicious. I didn't get to be a beetle by throwing my money around. Maybe some guys can live like there's no tomorrow, John Lennon. But I can't. That was really tasteless of you, Ringo. That was a friend of yours, killed, wait before his time.
Starting point is 00:15:53 Would you go to laugh about it, huh? I'm the one who's leaving off of his royalties. Ringo, this is a side of you I never wanted to see. This is a dark star indeed. Yeah. Love you, Ringo, star. You're good at treasure. So I just wanted to go down to Oboq and see Frank Sinatra's birth house. Other words that start with H. So I don't have to pronounce it. Now this movie begins with information about the housing crisis recited by a Barack Obama sound alike. That's up to debate.
Starting point is 00:16:29 This is a controversy that's been raging since the film started. Because the, just because the sound like was so terrible. And there's, and we're given no in film evidence that except that he refers to himself as a leader and says he won't let it happen again. The fact is that also like,
Starting point is 00:16:44 Barack Obama's a real president who made real speeches. I don't remember him ever making that speech. I don't know it like, no, it's not, I don't, so it's, and Bragglebaum doesn't show up as a character in the film. So you're saying that filmmakers never take historical liberties with things that world leaders. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Stubborn. It's just, uh, just writing this down in my own journal. That's exactly the only thing. But. Okay, just write this down in my own journal. That's exactly what I'm saying. But okay, so we're given probably
Starting point is 00:17:07 what five straight minutes, six straight minutes of stock footage of New York and just economic calamity. Yeah, graphs going down. Homeless people, yeah, animated graphs going down. Foreclose signs being slapped on buildings. While we hear this like speech by possibly Brock Fobama. Good one. People in barrels selling apples. While we hear this like speech by possibly Brock foe bomb
Starting point is 00:17:28 People in barrels selling apples Blind man with a couple of pencils on a street corner. Yeah, you of course stuck broker throws himself out a window and lands on a couple doing the Charleston Who are stuffing themselves in a phone booth like ball sitting?, sitting at the flag bowl. There's that a bowl. I think you wouldn't know. Or is that like the Super Bowl, but it's flag ball? Yeah, it's a good question because because like the orange bowl is a, is a football game where they play with oranges. It's a ball.
Starting point is 00:17:59 Very messy. They got to stop the plays all the time because the balls have been squeezed too hard and just exploded. Yeah. So the movie starts with this guy, the angel of... Well, we're set up to feel like this is gonna be a real indictment of the housing crisis. This is gonna be about people who really are having trouble.
Starting point is 00:18:16 He's got a lot of big ideas in his mind. He's tying it into real world current events. I was expecting, you know, Steve Correll with a wacky haircut to show up and start shouting at bankers. Christian Beall to just be listening to Metallica while he drums on his desk. Now this takes place after the housing crisis as shown by the opening and yet later we see Dominique Swain smoking in a bar which has been legal in New York since well before 2008. Stuart, you're a barkeep. How do you explain this? You're a tavern owner.
Starting point is 00:18:45 Well, that's a thing. Like, you can tell that the bartender and I'm hoping bar owner, Paul Sorvino in this movie. That would be really sad if he didn't know. Yeah, that he's like, if Paul Sorvino was just a barback. Yeah, yeah, this is a, he just works the day shift, because he's not ready for the prime time. Well, the thing is that, as you can see, his only customers are these people. So he's like, I got a, you know, I got a catered, more regulars. I've been the rules. So we're introduced into the world of Eric Roberts, who's a banker, who is telling that work at $5.50 in the morning.
Starting point is 00:19:19 It doesn't, he's talking to Michael Perry from Streets of Fire. Yeah. Who is, you average every man who has the hair of a man in his 30s, even though he's a resident. She's the boringest 30-year-old wig. Yeah. Michael, here's the first character, is this girl. As in Watch Jeans, too.
Starting point is 00:19:34 He's this foot upon every man who dresses like he's average, a little younger, and we're all in our mid to late 30s, and has a wife and a very young child, who's maybe about two years old who is an enormous like enormous baby. This is the biggest goddamn baby I've ever seen. He's wearing these fucking blue jeans. I saw the tag on those things. I'm like those are bigger than my blue jeans. These blue jeans have about 40 waist but he's a but so this he we're supposed to believe he's a man down on his luck with a young family even though he's clearly his children should be in college by this point.
Starting point is 00:20:08 But I mean, that's why it's such a big baby. But the child's actually 17, but so he's being told by Eric Roberts. And we know it's early in the morning because Eric Roberts interrupts this this appointment to call another client and the client wakes the client up because it's 5.55 a.m. So maybe this is one of those banks that's open early for people who have to go to work. I don't understand, you know, like certain doctor's offices are like that. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. I mean, like I can almost understand him, like calling someone that early in the morning if it's really important, maybe, but I can't understand him interrupting another, like meeting with a bank person who has come in
Starting point is 00:20:46 making the appointment better. Yeah, yeah. You look at Eric Roberts and you see a guy who's clearly like a consummate professional. Who loves to. Never does anything erratically. Certainly doesn't comb his hair like a crazy person. And loves to be up right and early in the morning, I'm sure. But he, I mean, this is, we have to assume he did not go to bed. So he calls our, uh, DeAngelo, the writer director star who's in bed and tells him, you have to come. He's dripping with jewels and gems. You have to come down to with jewels and gems. The classic French New Wave, the posters, DVD copies, the original screenplay,
Starting point is 00:21:26 stills from the lobby cards. He tells him, oh, your company is getting an $8 million payment. That's a lot of money. There's these new rules you have to come down and sign for it yourself. But you have six to seven days to do it. That's why I'm calling you so early in the morning.
Starting point is 00:21:40 He then hangs up and then turns to his client and says, you haven't met your payments. We're taking your house away. He's like, I just wanted to do that call in the middle to really rub it in that other people have more money. This is show you what a power. This guy so much got so much money, he'll just stop by in a week and maybe to pick up $8 million.
Starting point is 00:21:58 The thing that's great is he calls this, this, uh, Frank D'Angelo's character, Jimmy Valenti. He calls him, Jack Valenti. He doesn't answer right away. Like he and his wife argue about how tired they are and it's too early. They're not going to pick up a phone. And then Eric Roberts, like, you know, what? I'm just going to give him another shot. And he calls him a second time. And it finally gets him on the phone. And there we see our director, uh, the first shot of him is lying in bed with the camera pointed directly up his nostrils.
Starting point is 00:22:28 And also the first two scenes with this character. He talks to Eric Roberts on the phone. Then he calls an employee of his to tell him he has to go down and sign this thing. Our director does not open his eyes, I think once the entire time. He is sleeping through the starring role in his own film. Yeah, I mean he's so Into it that's what's like he's so like kind of locked in and keyed in Yeah, and I guess it also shows us that he doesn't sweat the small stuff He isn't gonna let this ruin his sleep because here's the thing He dresses like a gangster. He wears these big pinky rings black leather jacket over black t-shirt with black pants
Starting point is 00:23:03 His wife tells him oh I bought you a nice suit. He goes, ah, that's not what I wear, but a, but a, but. And he's driving around everything about him screams, mobster. And I thought, okay, this is gonna be a movie about a mobster who's breaking the law and succeeding. And an ordinary Joe who's trying to play by the rules and is failing to show that the system is rigged. Oh, contrair.
Starting point is 00:23:22 It turns out that he is not a mobster. He is a successful businessman who's also the greatest man in the world. But we'll get to that. Yes, he's a man who only eats one big meal a day, he says. And he likes, and it's made very clear when he meets with his executives in what is certainly not the only free room in an all-space.
Starting point is 00:23:40 Oh my God, it's clearly like, I mean, it might be his office space, because it's all, I mean, like, it might be his office space because it's all, I mean, like, if it's not his products are all over the walls. Yes, products are all the walls. It's all energy. Those could be his character's products. A lot of this movie also we should mention was shot clearly in a hotel lobby hotel restaurant and hotel banquet room and hotel. It's like, it's very poorly designed. Are you talking about how the New York police department seems to share an office with like a marketing company? Yeah, I understand.
Starting point is 00:24:10 And interrogates people at what is clearly the breakfast buffet area at the hotel, that the bank and also his wife's tea room that she goes to visit appear to be the same banquet hall in the hotel. Everywhere looks like lobbies. I mean, his boardroom where this, you know, like, very wealthy guy doesn't worry about money. The boardroom for his company, which is a very large building with a name that is, I mean, it's so high tech that they literally have the name like drawn on and Photoshop
Starting point is 00:24:43 basically. CGI is the name. Yeah. Uh, his boardroom has like a cork board in it. With, with printouts that say like sales force winner, 2014, just, just, just, I want it. It's, it's a real mix of what we're supposed to be taking from the film and what we're actually taking from the film. But anyway, so while Frank to Angelo is, is ride and high, except he's got to go through the trouble of the has to go through the trouble of signing for this payment of $8 million. This other guy, what was his name?
Starting point is 00:25:17 Nikki Mickey Ryan. Mickey Ryan. The Lord of the Fire. The Lord of the Fire. He can't find work. He can't afford his house, his wife hates him. She screams at him to get to the baby, the baby loves him because he's great.
Starting point is 00:25:29 She's like many women in this movie, has a nightstand covered in empty booze bottles. Every woman except Frank D'Angelo's wife in this is an alcoholic shrill harpy, except for Frank D'Angelo's wife and the best selling author slash expert on hostage situations who appears on the news later. Can't seem to stop grinning while reporting on a hostage situation. But we'll get to that, Dan, you had what I wanted to say. Is it about how Mickey can't even afford a hot dog with soda? Yes, to just get the hot dog. But he can't afford to pay the extra dollar for drinks.
Starting point is 00:25:59 No, I just need $4, dude, for a hot dog and a drink. That's fucking crazy. And he says how much for the hot dog? $3. $3 for a street hot dog a drink. That's fucking crazy. And he says how much for the hot dog? $3 for a street hot dog? That should be $2 dog. Only in Toronto pretending to be new. Or let me just say one thing. I recently paid $10 for a hot dog.
Starting point is 00:26:14 Who's at an airport? There's always a markup. I was like, you know what? I'm used to paying, you pay $15. Hot dog in an airport. Here's why. Because I got a hamburger. My son wanted a hot dog.
Starting point is 00:26:27 This hot dog arrived. It was easily 15 inches long and it was delicious. And I'll tell you this. So you're like, sir, I'd like to return this hamburger and pay the additional $3 to get the hot dog option. Now you're gonna refund it to the unused portion of this hamburger, correct? And I want you to apply that credit to the hot dog.
Starting point is 00:26:46 I'll pay the rest, it'll be like a buck. So here's my tip for those who are interested. Mm-hmm. If you're ever in the Phoenix Airport, just go ahead and get a hot dog. Okay. What's the, what was the purveyor of this hot meat? Don't remember. It's hot beef and chicken.
Starting point is 00:27:01 Oh, wow. Don't remember. It was just such sweet and broge I couldn't hold it in my memory. Yeah, yeah, it's clouded the memories. So anyway, that was Elliot Kaylin's hot beef and chicken. Oh wow. Don't remember. It was just such sweet and broja. I couldn't hold it in my memory. Yeah, yeah, it's clouded the memories. So, anyway, that was Elliot Kaylin's Hot Dog story, the Hot Dog Diaries. Yeah. I wrote that in an email and said,
Starting point is 00:27:14 it's a David Hot Dog Coventy. And he reads it while walking a hot dog on the face. Yeah, because the scarier that she was, David Redchukovny. He's so funny. So I don't know that it isn't. So Dan, you wanted to say something about Mickey or Down Trident here.
Starting point is 00:27:32 No, all I wanted to say was like, he's got a great head of hair. Oh, my God. His wife has no sympathy for him in this eviction process. Like, she's blames him. She's a blamem. Yeah, well, this is just like, this is what I want to say. Everybody in Mickey's life appears to blame him for his misfortune.
Starting point is 00:27:50 Yeah, and now we don't know whether he deserves that. There's no backstory. And we know that at least at one point he was financially supporting his brother and his brother. Which we find out later. At first we see him as just like a loser. His father, his brother who seems to be allergic to shirts. Oh, boy. And if there's one guy seems to be allergic to shirts. Oh boy. And if there's one guy who should be wearing a shirt,
Starting point is 00:28:07 it's this guy. I've never, like, I'm, like, this might be a harsh indictment of Hollywood's beauty standards, but I've never seen as big a pot belly. And I mean, that was not a pot belly. It was a cauldron belly. Mm-hmm. Like, it was barrel-chesteded and that barrel was bulging.
Starting point is 00:28:26 Yeah, yeah. Bachelors and barrel. You could have hauled out that barrel-chest and put it on you because you're bored and you lost everything in the stock market, right? Casting notes say toad-like. Okay. Now I feel like we've gone too far. Yeah, so the thing is that we're looking for a middle-aged man actor for this role description
Starting point is 00:28:48 Uh, if the if the lead boss bad guy from Super Mario 2 was a person Sort of like king hippo type Okay, we're talking about too far. Okay. He's had a long acting career the uh and like his wife she says you know Your son's never gonna grow up to be like you, which is like, no shit, he's already fully grown. She's going to leave him and not share the circus earnings of her giant baby, baby man. So the only place making you can find solace is at Alphys, Paul Sravino's bar, where the only other customers seem to be Dominique Swain as... As Girl who just stands for the Duke Box.
Starting point is 00:29:29 She's Michael Madsen's girlfriend, I guess. Michael Madsen who is playing the part of Low Life Sleece Bag. And Daniel Baldwin who is playing the most anti-Semitic character. I've seen in any movies that's not about World War II, or about skinheads in years. When you're watching one of these cash crab performances, you're assuming like they're in and out, they're just doing it for the bucks,
Starting point is 00:29:55 but it feels like Daniel Baldwin's like, okay, sure, yeah, what do you want me to say? I'll say that for money. Call Jewish people what, lampshades, that's insane. And one person is like, he talks about how, he says, what comes between Monday and Wednesday? Juice day, that's when they take everything from you. These juice, run in the bank, stealin' everything from us.
Starting point is 00:30:15 And it's like, wow, he throws the K word around a budget time. And it's like, I don't even, I don't even remember, like maybe it's just because they don't hang out with like a bunch of anti-Semites and bars, but I don't remember. You haven't lived, man. Remember the financial crisis being blamed
Starting point is 00:30:30 specifically on the Jewish people. I mean, I'm sure anti-Semites did. There were a lot of Jewish people involved with those companies. I mean, Lehman Brothers is a Jewish name, you know? Not for us. Yeah, I mean, everyone knows. Yeah, I'm not a very systematic people,
Starting point is 00:30:42 blame the delay of the video game No Man's Sky on the Jewish people. All right. But yeah, but that was because the No Man's give its family, so you know, for a piece of the action. But it's, it comes out of nowhere. And it's like, wait, I thought this movie was going to be about the financial crisis. I didn't know it was going to be about racism.
Starting point is 00:31:00 Yeah. And Daniel Baldwin really throws himself into this anti-stomatic part. It's, it's very weird. It looks enough like Alec Baldwin that if you kinda squint your eyes a little bit, you could imagine Alec Baldwin saying that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:12 And I think the believer had this much open anti-Semitism in it. I'd also like to point out that Michael Madsen and Daniel Baldwin are wearing the same shirts and two successive scenes that are supposed to take place on different days. Yeah, but they're super low lives, dude. Yeah, they only have two shirts, you know why? Because the shoes took the other ones. The early bro. The early bro. The trailers won't the charge in too much for shirts.
Starting point is 00:31:32 Yeah. So yeah. So also that scene featured Dominique Swain playing the jukebox. We'd seen her earlier in a scene where she has super weird interactions, throwing herself at Jimmy Valenti at one point. And so Jimmy Valenti is driving down the street. He gets out and he accidentally bumps into Mickey and knocks him down.
Starting point is 00:31:54 Once again, their paths cross. Yeah, it's like a dickens novel. And so he helps him up, hey man, you okay? You look like you got the weight of the world on your shoulders. All right, well be good. Thus establishing, he adheres about everybody he sees. He's such a sweet man.
Starting point is 00:32:08 He's got such an open heart. Well, that end like in his business meeting, he's like very keen on telling the people, like whatever charity we give to, I wanna make sure that the money goes to the actual people and not the administrative thoughts. 80 to 90%. And the guy who is handling the chair to just keep saying,
Starting point is 00:32:25 I know that's how you roll, Jimmy. So that's the, yeah, that's the thing. I took care of it. I know that I know how you roll. So, and it is like a, He's trying that out. It's like a boy, old-working, he's like, I'm gonna try and be a little hipber.
Starting point is 00:32:37 And maybe Jimmy will recognize that. I like this new thing that kids are saying, how you roll. Because it's like, that's, you know what? I like a good roll. Sometimes, let me just be honest. True Confessions here. I'm like, okay, father, I've sinned.
Starting point is 00:32:50 When I go to the restaurant sometimes, what I'm really looking forward to is the roll. Not even the main course. Or the dessert. It's crazy, I know. But that's just how I roll. I'm going to use it in the meeting tomorrow, okay, honey? And his wife is like, go to bed. It's three in the morning, please stop.
Starting point is 00:33:06 Stop talking about roles. Stop talking. Every night with a role. This will be the one time in the movie that a woman is justifiably angry at the man. Let me go to bed. Stop talking about roles. So he's just a sweetheart, he's just a honey pie.
Starting point is 00:33:19 And long story short, they meet at their, Mickey stays with his brother. and his brother's wife says, I want that loser out of my fucking house. He's a fucking loser, you're a fucking loser, he's a piece of shit. This is in a great scene in a bedroom where that's where we're introduced to the idea that this move is like these characters
Starting point is 00:33:38 are just not gonna wear very many clothes. No, you don't. You used to it, but. The brother who's an older gentleman is just sitting there in almost no clothes And so the next day he says you got to leave she doesn't want you here and Mickey's like I supported you for two years now you're throwing me out and So he's got no choice the only people who care about him are Michael Maxx and Daniel Baldwin
Starting point is 00:33:59 What what why did they why was the brother care to shirtless in that scene? This is the morning. I mean, he couldn't just toss one on. I mean, he could be throwing somebody out. Like, you're gonna have that kind of hard conversation. You don't wanna like throw something. I don't know. Sometimes when I will go over to your house,
Starting point is 00:34:14 you're wandering around in your underwear. Yeah, but that's, I guess that's the same thing. That's the power of life. It's a power of life. Like, you wanna show off. You wanna be like, who's the big guy around here? It's an intimidation technique. The way like Lynn and Johnson would call people into the bathroom with him
Starting point is 00:34:27 You'd think that would put him in the shameful position. No, no, no He's he's making you feel uncomfortable So what his brother Joe was saying is hey This is me This is this is me naked to the world and you know what that should make me vulnerable But it makes you uncomfortable. I'm comfortable with my body, all of it. You're the one who's not comfortable with it. Shame on you, get out of my house because my wife told me you have to leave. But it's system lies, another person calling Mickey
Starting point is 00:34:55 Eluser. We also get Mickey's mom calling him Eluser. He goes to his mom, he goes to a bingo parlor where his mom, Marley Kitter, is playing bingo with Doris Roberts. And he asked for her for help and she refuses dors robberts has a heartbreaking monologue about her son died of heroin a died of suicide after a heroin addiction which you repeat twice once with harrow kidder out of the room and once with her bag in the room and uh... but he is so he's got nowhere to turn except these two anti-semites he joins the group he doesn't get his his head
Starting point is 00:35:24 totally shaved, but it gets a lot of fun. It's a really great, it's this great transformative moment where we are greeted to flashbacks to scenes from earlier. No, just over and over and over. Just over and over and over and over and over. I forgot about that. It's in the lume met, Pong broker, the devil knows,
Starting point is 00:35:38 when the devil, what's the devil knows your dead? What was the, before the devil knows that? Before the devil knows your dead style, where it's just like pop, pop shots from the past, shots from the past. But it's like, they're all like these gauzy. Like it's like in the 19, early 90s, like R&B music.
Starting point is 00:35:54 Well, because that's what the music is. And it comes in. Then there's some kind of love song, right? Yeah, I mean, most of the love song from No Deposit. The love theme from No Deposit. It sounds like the kind of love song you would hear in an 80s action movie that's clearly like kind of from the 50s or 60s and you're like,
Starting point is 00:36:11 I guess cool people listen to this when they're like about to hook up. But he's getting his head shaved and a tattoo put on his neck. Yeah, they call a tattoo artist and for some reason, into the bar. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:22 That's gotta be against health code. I would have to assume so. I mean, there's blood coming out of his body in a place that people are ingesting drinks. So Paul Servino, he already lets people smoke in there. He doesn't care about the rules. He does care. Well, that's the thing. He's got to keep his regular's happy. Yeah. And so they instantly go, he instantly goes from just a normal guy down his luck to a skinhead who is robbing a bank with Michael Madsen and Daniel Balton that bank full of Jewish people. Yep, and it's very Jewish.
Starting point is 00:36:48 Very clearly in the conference center of a large or to mid-size hotel. Ironically, this movie that was trying to make a stance against anti-semitism was doing something anti-semitic itself by taking up a ballroom that should have had a bar mitzvah in it. Some unlucky Toronto Jewish boy had to have his par mitzvah at the synagogue because they couldn't rent the event space at the local Hilton Honors Hotel, I guess.
Starting point is 00:37:15 I'm very mixed up about what the movies feelings about the Jewish people are. Because they're only shown in banks? Yeah, I mean, I think that we're supposed to not sympathize with the antisemitic talk, but at the same time, it's not really refuted particularly strongly either. Well, I feel like the movie doesn't really need to refute that. I guess.
Starting point is 00:37:39 I don't think the movie needs to show a Jewish person being great so that the audience is like, oh, Daniel Baldwin was wrong about that. But like, Jews aren't evil. Our hero doesn't even turn around. He's just like, at the end of the movie, he's just like, I wanna go home.
Starting point is 00:37:52 I don't, you know, it's wrong to shoot people. He's a moron. It is wrong. And you disagree with the message, it's wrong to shoot people? Well, I don't think that it's particularly more wrong to shoot one type of person than another type of person.
Starting point is 00:38:04 Oh, all lives matter. I heard it here first. Oh, wow. Wow, Dan. Wow. Oh, it's just. Oh, my God. Just for wine to take.
Starting point is 00:38:12 You know what? Delete it. You've shown your true colors. The. All right. So this is where the confluence of events leads us to the ultimate showdown because Jimmy Valenti has shown up to the bank to pick up his $8 million and or sign the papers because apparently that's the thing you have to do now.
Starting point is 00:38:28 Eric Roberts comes out from behind the desk. Happy as a clown. Jeatery as hell. And he is walking like a man with one and a half legs. That was that CBS sitcom, right? One and a half legs. And but that's when our villains walk in shoot a security guard in the head instantly. Immediately.
Starting point is 00:38:49 And also, actually, what it looks like a pretty decent user special. Yeah, that was a pretty good special. And they also wrap a giant length of chain around the doors, which we later see does not prevent people from opening the doors open from the outside later. The chain falls off armless. It's love soft like a snake skin. Now we didn't mention that there's also two policemen who I think are both named Tony, who are called
Starting point is 00:39:15 and are called in by. And news for no particular reason. Called in by police chief Peter Coyote, who tells them in his Ken Burns tones that he knows they've been working really hard, he needs them to work another shift, even though they, they're owed a day off, they've been working on the Fox case for, for days, but the media is howling down his throat and there's so much stuff going on in the city that he needs them to work two more days.
Starting point is 00:39:37 This is in his office in the police station that has Stuart mentioned also has a business group of some kind sharing the office. And there's a poster in the, in the hallway that seems to be like either an ad or an employee of the month or something like that. Judging by their accents, these two detectives just recently transferred from Saskatchewan. Oh, everyone in the movie except for the name stars is very much Brooklyn by way of Canada.
Starting point is 00:39:58 Yeah. And it's like, what's the matter, A? Yeah. I was walking a boot here anyway, but that's the size. So they're on, these guys take hostages at the bank, they especially don't like that the Jewish people are there. But then the anti-Semitic stuff kind of takes a back seat. It doesn't really appear that much.
Starting point is 00:40:20 Well, first, the criminals, knock Eric Robertson and kick him a bunch and each time they hit him, they use fully effects of like eggs breaking. It's crazy, it's the thing I've seen in a real movie. It's like he's got empty, like he took a bunch of eggs and pulled the yoke out without breaking the shell and then stuffed it all in his pants. So that each kick is like crunch.
Starting point is 00:40:43 Crunch. Crunch. And I mean, there was still like a little Jewish stuff though, when like our hero, or the Frank, the angel, right? That's his name. Jimmy Pellante. Yeah. He gets shot by one of the guys when he's trying to defend a young girl. And the grand grand daughter I'm assuming, or possibly daughter, I don't know what kind of logic is gonna be. Robert Losea, who is playing a Holocaust survivor.
Starting point is 00:41:13 But Mickey's like, what, he's not a Jew. We were like, we're here to shoot Jewish people. That's right, I never got about that. So yeah, Robert Losea, that's right, he goes, I've seen the devil, you're nothing. And he rolls up his sleeve, he's got numbers tattooed on his arm, he's a survivor. Now, I don't know if it's better or worse
Starting point is 00:41:33 that he does not attempt to do any sort of Eastern European accent. He's apparently a halt, maybe he came over as a kid or a teenager and he worked really hard to get his accent away, he was so traumatized by his time in the camps. But this... I don't know, he's a little... He's pretty comfortable with himself and kind of self-assured.
Starting point is 00:41:52 Like, I don't feel like he would try and hide anything. I guess, I mean, there's no obfuscation with where I'm losing his form. I mean, but the confidence may come from the fact that he's like, I recreated myself in my life and I didn't let that tragedy to find me. Because if I've learned anything from the from meeting Holocaust survivors It's that one the Holocaust was terrible and so and okay either I mean there's there's this comes down terrible. There's really there's two types Those who never want to talk about and those who want to talk about nothing else and there's two there are people who are
Starting point is 00:42:20 Shattered by it and then there are survivors who kind of seem to take confidence in a way from it that like I survived the worst possible thing that could ever happen to a person and that didn't destroy me so I can handle anything. And so like he's the second type I guess. And that he's like, you know what? I'm not gonna let this bank robbery get to me because I stared down Hitler.
Starting point is 00:42:43 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Michael Manson and one of the Baldwin'sins are not going to put me down. And they punch him and he goes, you punch like a girl. And later he gets the best line in the movie. After everything's been taken care of, he goes. So Frank Lange, the angel gets shot. He recognizes that, hey, this is the guy I picked up off the sidewalk before. And no, no, no, and he, the guy goes, hey, he helped me.
Starting point is 00:43:06 I'm gonna take him in another room. They have a little heart to heart. Frank Tangelose says, I guess, the moral of the movie. And that's the moral. It's nice to be great, but it's great to be nice. But that's the moment when the other bank robbers are like, oh yeah, our possibly susceptible to coercion friend. We were able to turn to our cause in under a day.
Starting point is 00:43:22 Yeah, let's let him go in the other room with that incredibly handsome and charismatic wounded man. Yeah, I mean, the handsome part. Super tall and wealthy. But I was just wondering what they're doing out there. Just like, all right, well, you go in the back for a while. We'll just keep standing here with our gun. Especially because they don't seem to want money.
Starting point is 00:43:38 But then by this point, the police are surrounding the bank. Yeah. And also, there's a massive crowd forming between the bank and the expansive massive crowd forming between the bank and the expansive tree line of downtown Brooklyn. Yeah. Yeah. Downtown Brooklyn really seems to have
Starting point is 00:43:51 a lot of wooded highway access. It was interesting enough that it was in that crowd scene that I finally was like, oh, there's a non-white person in Brooklyn apparently. Because the first people of color showed up. And meanwhile, we're getting a lot of news reports from what was the guy's name Frank Ambrose I think it was yeah
Starting point is 00:44:12 Ambrose you and his and his Frank Ambrose to his friends. Yeah, and his his report on the scene which his name I think was Fred Lebco Matthew Lesco and this is a movie where we see everything that's happening we know the back story of these characters it cuts to a news break and we watch for a while for like three minutes a reporter explain that he doesn't really know what's going on with the situation we don't even see the reporter space we watch it's a mistake but we don't need to see that in a movie watching the anchor just listening to it and it's like did they want the audience to jump in and
Starting point is 00:44:43 fill in the reporter on what's going on? Or, yeah, meanwhile, all of the people in Mickey's life are watching this tragedy unfold. His wife sees it at the fancy tea room where she's meeting her friend. His mom. Mickey's wife is the circus with the Jimmy Bay. Mickey's wife is not interested. I know Frank's wife sees it. Mickey's mom sees it. Mickey's brother sees it, which finally gives him the strength to stand up to his wife in the best scene in the movie. Yeah, I say delivers the best wine. I've said earlier, Ravoloja, the best line I was wrong. Joe has the best line. His wife goes, your loser brother's robber to bank and she already said, like, gay, go get me some more fucking vodka. If
Starting point is 00:45:23 you can handle that, you'll lose her. She talks to him all the time and he goes, what? My brother is in trouble robbing a bank and Stewart, do you want to deliver his, his, his, I think Jan wants to deliver it. I don't know if I remember it exactly, but it's something like, I sold on my brother for pussy. And you're a client. That's, that's what floating. What he says. After he fucking spikes the vodka bottle on the ground, she's like, hey, you might want to do a explicit language, a special warning on this, because that word, the sea word, it would be, I don't like to say.
Starting point is 00:45:56 But it escalates the movie suddenly to a, like, it goes from like 60 to 100. And you're like, wait, what did he just say? It would be terrible if some plucky listener took an audio clip of Dan's saying that, I don't know, turned it into something like a ringtone. Oh boy. And so the next time we see Joey's talking to a policeman again
Starting point is 00:46:18 in the police station slash hotel restaurant. And he's establishing what we already know that his brother lost everything. He lost his house and the cops like wait, he lost his house. He lost his family. His his baby, his house. So they took his house away. He lost his house, his house.
Starting point is 00:46:34 He lost it. They lost his house. Where he lives with his family. It's like they spent the phrase he lost his house has spoken so many times, but back to the bank robbery. So to make a long story short, but that, but that, that conversation they're having in that breakfast nook and that, in that booth that they're sharing that's apparently the hot box in the police department.
Starting point is 00:46:54 The, that scene clearly shows this detective sitting down with the brother and he's like, Oh, wow, your brother's a bad guy. And then by the end of it, he's like, he lost his house. No, he's clearly a hero. Yeah. Yeah, he turns around. Meanwhile, and I think that same policeman is also supposed to be at the bank of the exact same time. Yeah, yeah. The swan team is there. They're next door to each other. The bank of the police station makes sense. You want to put the banks somewhere safe. And the tea room is next door to that. It's New York's really a small town. And Alphys bar is right next to it.
Starting point is 00:47:25 Just because it's a neighborhood story. Yeah, yeah, that's true. What neighborhood of Brooklyn was this, by the way? It's a, you're gonna say Barrow Park, aren't you? It's, wish doesn't exist. Yeah, yeah. You wouldn't. Dragonwick.
Starting point is 00:47:42 So, make a long story short about the the highest because the highest the Tossed situation not actually that interesting. Well, it's pretty funny, but shooting happens The got Mickey gets shot Frank has already been shot through the shoulder A guy who said who it turns out to be playing Jimmy. Oh, sorry Jimmy is right. Yeah, there's so it's so hard to tell the part Yeah, he's already established Where one where one begins and one ends. As bona fide says, a great man because Mickey says, hey, let him go. You can go.
Starting point is 00:48:10 And he goes, I could go, but my balls wouldn't come along for the ride or something like that. He wouldn't be a man if he walked out of that situation. And so at the last moment, even though he's been shot in the shoulder, he uses that hand to pick up a gun and shoot the two robbers after they've already shot. Yeah, there's a plain clothes cop there that tries to enter seed and Frank DiAngelo's character pulls him down so that he doesn't get shot and then kills both make robbers. Now, not since the taking a poem one to three
Starting point is 00:48:38 in my favorite movie has there been a less effective undercover cop? It just jumps out. I'm a cop and then immediately gets either shot or pulled to the ground. Frank D. Jimmy, Valenti, Slash, Frank D. Angelo is a saint, is a hero. Robert Lozza delivers what I thought was the first best line until I remember Joe's argument with his wife. The second best line in the movie, which is bring a structure for this good man.
Starting point is 00:49:01 Get garbage bags for these pieces of shit. And the hospital beds are wheeled out. And then everyone seems to have forgotten that Mickey was part of the hostage situation by this time. And that's how they pitch it though. Like they say literally, like these two guys fell as hostage. And they're like, I'm like, what, what do you mean these two guys? There was a third man
Starting point is 00:49:30 Another favorite of mine Who knows because the most important thing is that these guys who both have been shot they both need medical attention Their structures are allowed to sit right outside the entrance of the bank while every character they know rushes through the police line and has a moment with They'll they allow Paul Serfino, his bartender, come up and have a little bedside moment. Now his mom, but his mom's friend from the Bingo Farler runs up to have a moment with him and tells her she loves him. Who's the killer? Who's in some bushes somewhere? She couldn't be bothered.
Starting point is 00:49:58 Oh. Paul Serfino is the new story with those three guys robbing the band. He was just kidding, Mario Ketter. Yeah. Oh, so sorry. So Paul Sovereigno sees this news story of these three guys having robbed the bank and he goes, you can see that look on his face where he's like, oh, shit, they're my only customers. I bet a curry favor with the only guy left. The only survivor. Otherwise, it just me and Dominique Swain. I'm sorry, Dominique Swain. Yeah, who's playing some weird song in the jukebox and dancing along.
Starting point is 00:50:26 Now also this is all while Frank DiAngelo's cover of Leonard Cohen's Hallelujah's playing. And a parade of Orthodox Jews walk out of the bank. I assume thanking God that a man like Jimmy Valenti was created. And it's thanks to Watchman that this is the second worst use of that song in a movie uh...
Starting point is 00:50:48 and after that uh... that's pretty much it was not that i was going to go to our anything uh... oh i i remember what it was uh... jimmy like asking being wheeled out tells air robert's to pay off that he's gonna pay off micki's uh... more than and it's just like well that's a nice gesture, but Mickey's clearly going to jail for a very long time.
Starting point is 00:51:10 I don't know why. He suggested that he also pay for his legal fees, but that's not gonna help the fact that like, he still doesn't have a job. He's still, I mean, is pretty easily convinced into doing bad things. Like he has a neck tattoo now, like that doesn't go away.
Starting point is 00:51:25 That's permanent. I mean, you can get those removed. I assume Jimmy's gonna pay that bill also. He's gonna pay to get his neck tattoo removed. He's gonna adopt him. He's now his is award. At that point, he's just gonna be cut. We already think that Jimmy has like a driver slash gofer
Starting point is 00:51:38 who's obsessed with keeping Jimmy's car clean. And when he goes up to him, he says, I apologize, I didn't have a chance to clean the car. I expected him to just pull out his sword and commit sepaku right there in front of him. He is so apologetic because I guess he is wearing a ponytail. So you assume that he's way into highland or the movie. You have to assume like Jimmy Vlante is such a living saint. People love him so much that when they fail him even in the slightest it they they hurt it hurts them
Starting point is 00:52:05 all their misdeeds are reflected upon them like the penance there they feel like goes right her uh... so they they uh... when he's told that he has to go sign for this loan and he goes to not loan this payment and he goes to his office they go oh yeah these new rules payroll should have dealt with it but they didn't he goes
Starting point is 00:52:24 everyone makes mistakes don't yell at payroll about it don't make them feel bad we'll just send out a memo saying these are the rules now tell my maturity so like that's he's just the sweetest boss in the world and the moral of the story is that Frank Angelo by extension must be a great man and the moral of stories you should go on watch this movie just watch it if you want to watch this crazy passion project that is a love letter to him. And the movie ends with a bunch of slomo black and white sequence shots of all the characters, all the big stars that we've seen in the movie. Maybe that's the way to find the least flattering picture of almost all of them. Eric Roberts'
Starting point is 00:53:00 is him crying with blood dripping out of his nose. Yeah, crawling around the floor, mourning the loss of his testicles. Whereas the picture of Frank Yangelo in there is beatific almost. Oh, yes. Peter Paul Rubin's painted this shit. Yeah, so we should view our final judgments about this movie, whether it's a good bad movie, a bad bad movie or a movie you kind of like. Is there any doubt? Stu, I feel like you, this is a good, great movie.
Starting point is 00:53:29 This is a movie where the financier of the movie, the writer director star not only plays this awesome businessman, but he also, I think it's approached while on a stretch or having been shot by the chief of police who basically is like, you want the key to the city and you can be chief of police if you want because you're the best shot I've ever seen. Yeah, it's great. And he acts like a gangster, dresses like a gangster. No, turns out he's the best of us. You start watching this movie and you're like,
Starting point is 00:53:59 okay, this is pretty slow. And you know, it takes a little bit of time before it starts cooking. Well, that's the first five minutes of Info Dump. That's something that we didn't mention is that the movie takes a really long time to set up everything before like the hostage situation and the hostage situation like starts and is resolved and like half an hour. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:18 When that pockets boil and yum yum yum. And this is an 80 minute movie right? Yeah. That's the other thing we should mention. Go watch this movie. Block out. You have 80 minutes, I'm sure. Block out an hour and a half for it,
Starting point is 00:54:29 and then spend the last 10 minutes masturbating in joy that such a thing exists as this weird vanity project. Yeah, I think this is a good, bad movie. The one thing that helps me back a little bit is the weird anti-Semitism of the movie like it feels like an off note in the same way that like there a lot of I feel like good bad or trashy movies out there that like the ruin or rape scene and you're like why is this in here?
Starting point is 00:54:55 I just ruined the movie. But for the most part it's not enough to like be like. I find it's just another it's just another weirdo thread in the crazy quilt that is this film and it's okay. I'm saying this. I'm Jewish. It's okay for you to watch this Oh, wow yeah, yeah, I'm giving you Keeper here Dan anyone who's not Jewish. I'm giving you official permission. Okay, so no deposit You're looking at the DVD again to make sure that was the right name Yeah, it's not a hard to remember because it has nothing to do with the soundtrack. The soundtrack is a different name.
Starting point is 00:55:29 Look to the stars or something. Look into the stars. Look into the stars. Which is a good way to go blind. Yeah, but it's also like if you look at the cover of the box, it's just covered in stars. Mugs, shirts, stickers, patches, tanks and more are yours for the purchasing at maxfunstore.com. Hey, you already love the podcasts, so why not take this to the next level and outfit your home and bud with our merch?
Starting point is 00:55:57 maxfunstore.com, because if you have to wear a shirt, it should be one of ours. Uh, next up, we uh, do a few... Have you seen this show before? Ed. You think after... Okay. You know, I didn't bring it up in August, even though I should have, but August marked the nine-year anniversary of the stupid podcast. What?
Starting point is 00:56:22 Yikes. I wasn't here for all of that time, but I'm still going to take credit for it. Mm-hmm. You were there for... Most of it. Like, ain't happy here. Nice. I wasn't here for all of that time, but I'm still gonna take credit for it. You were there for... Most of it. Ain't a happy year. Yeah, some of it. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:56:32 You know, that's a popular anniversary to celebrate nine years. Yeah, we should get each other at a anniversary. Yes, so that would be nice. We've been doing this podcast longer than either Stewart or I have been married. Yeah. We've been doing this podcast longer than or staying at this point wait no that's not true it's not actually true uh we've been we'll we'll we will reach that point yeah yeah but it's longer than uh what brokobon is
Starting point is 00:56:58 in president that's true yeah yeah it was a different nation when people started this people needed to laugh. They needed to laugh That's a crazy amount of time to be doing. Wait a year was that 2007 was when a little movie called stealth graced my DVD player in my The bedroom in the apartment I shared with two other people. And I stuffed a single rock band microphone in a homemade shock absorber that I've made from putting some rubber bands. Oh, that's weird, because everyone is commented
Starting point is 00:57:30 that those early episodes had amazing sound quality. It's not great. So I revisit them so often. Yeah. Don't listen to the early episodes guys. So many memories, so that's a long time. This is the longest I've done almost anything except live. Okay, now that I've juiced this up, I'm with the next stage in this game.
Starting point is 00:57:51 Ads, which is to say the Piper. That the flop house. Nine years don't come cheap. Yeah, the flop house is supported by Squarespace, the simplest way to create a compelling website. And the strange, the downright bizarre, great stories to find us, you should tell yours with simple tools and templates. Squarespace helps you capture your store with a captivating website. Now Dan, I got a question about Squarespace.
Starting point is 00:58:17 Okay. I've got an idea for a website. I kind of mentioned it earlier. It's called www.teenageviewingingetartlets.org. And it's these new crazy characters, the toilets, they're also teenagers who are mutants and they're ninjas. And I wanna, I figured, you know what? Don't bother with TV, TV's broken. Thanks to people cutting cords, left and right, and they're streaming stuff now.
Starting point is 00:58:43 It shouldn't cut those cords. I mean, like the cords aren't the problem. You gotta cut the cord. Yeah, so cord's. Baby's born. Okay. You can't just leave it attached. Yeah, that's crazy.
Starting point is 00:58:51 That's nuts. You wanna wait till the last jolt of blood or pumped through that cord. Oh, well. Cause that's the super strength blood. Then you cut the shit out of that bag. You put on that Freddy glove and you go, that's all they do. It's a girl bitch. Welcome to the world bitch.
Starting point is 00:59:06 I could say that is my kid. Actually, that makes it even worse. It's crazy. What's he doing? I just glad that Freddie settled down and started a family. Who is the way? He is a child molester. So it's not great.
Starting point is 00:59:18 A child murderer, right? Don't they? But that's why they burned his house down, right? Yes, you're right. Maybe he's just a child murderer. So what you're saying is you're... I'm sorry, Freddie, you're merely a child murderer. I apologize. But it's called, so anyway, I want to just get on the web and start streaming these
Starting point is 00:59:34 original animated web series about these Ninja toilets. Can Squarespace help me with that kind of site? It certainly can. And that's all I have to say about that. Will it make the site look the same on like a phone or on a desktop, on a laptop, on an iPad. It scales to different devices. Yeah, it's got what you call the responsive design.
Starting point is 00:59:53 That's great. That's great. And how do they support our show and support Squarespace? Well, you can start your free trial today by visiting squarespace.com slash flop. You should squarespace. So you're saying you're going to hide, you're going to have like the bios of these Ninja turrets available for anybody, but you're going to hide all the videos, the hot vids, find a paywall, right? No, no, no, no, because you don't want anybody to just see that shit. Information wants to be free and there's no better information than toilets fighting crime.
Starting point is 01:00:25 Okay. With Ninja Landons. So in space, you're gonna make money based on ads. It's gonna be, it's gonna be ad supported and also internet equals cash dollar signs. Oh, okay. I'll figure it out. I'll figure out how to monetize this idea.
Starting point is 01:00:36 I mean, the money's just gonna come flowing in, but mostly. Yeah, and you'll take a big bag and write a dollar sign on it to cash all the money. So I know what's in it. Put it right next to your disk drive for when the money squirts out. The flop house is also,
Starting point is 01:00:46 ha ha ha ha. The flop house is also supported in part by Mac Weldon, the clothing company. Angus Mac Weldon. Mac Weldon, I'll tell you what, it's better than whatever you're wearing right now. That's wrong,
Starting point is 01:01:01 because I'm wearing Mac Weldon right now. Really? Yeah. This is to tell the truth, wearing Mac Weldon right now. Really? Yeah. This is to tell the truth. My Mac Weldon underpants, first in the rotation, right off the bat. Okay. Every time I always go through them and then I go through my lesser hains or what have you underpants.
Starting point is 01:01:16 Now they're comfortable, they're roomy, they're not too roomy. They're crummy. They're crummy, which is a word you just made out that I don't know what it means by itself. It's a land roomy. Yeah, that makes it. They're super cr roomy. I'm a crew me. That crew me, which is a word you just made out that I don't know what it means But I hope it's a land room. Yeah, that makes they're super crew me. Yeah, that's so when you think Macwellton think crew me But the crew me center That's like Chris on but they are super comfortable underpants Yeah, they make make all your business look great. Yeah, what do you say then? Well Macwellton wants you to be comfortable
Starting point is 01:01:43 So if you don't like your first pair, you can keep it. And they will refund you, no question asked. No questions asked, even. One multiple questions. Just make it a better each time. You know, as I have gotten older guys, when I was a young man, I just put whatever I wanted on my undercarriage, but as I've gotten older,
Starting point is 01:02:04 I was about five months. Yeah, yeah as I've gotten older, I was about to buy buns. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, in a pinch. It's what I call when I pinch my business with a hot dogma. I don't know about that. But it's a thing, look it up on the internet. But what I was saying is the,
Starting point is 01:02:20 as I've gotten older, I don't mind spending a little bit extra bucks on the stuff that keeps my business that you can't see on my underpants Look, you only get one you muster Dan and you come over you only get one Take good care of it. By penis. Yes. Oh, okay unless you're that side show guy from the 20s We had three legs and two penises. Okay. No, remember his name is Italian What do you make of face? I'm trying to remember it. I can't remember it.
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Starting point is 01:03:09 Thank you for your support. And now we got some jumbo trunks. Jumbo trunks. Damn, punch that up. Okay. Okay. So I got the first, no, I think Elie, it's gonna go first. Oh, okay, I'll go first. This is a personal message.
Starting point is 01:03:30 Mm-hmm. This is a message for Melissa Trujillo from Dylan Trujillo and parentheses her awesome little brother. It says, Happy Birthday. I know you'll love the gift of the peaches saying, Happy Birthday, Melissa. Happy Birthday, Melissa. Happy Birthday, Melissa. Hey,aches saying Happy Birthday Melissa Happy Birthday Melissa
Starting point is 01:03:46 Happy Birthday Melissa, will Elliot sing a song? Maybe Happy Birthday to you I can sing it now because it's in the public domain, turns out Sony never actually owns the copyright They just stole money from a lot of people for decades to you Will Dan sigh? Will Stu crack a beer? Oh shit a lot of people for decades to you will dance side. We'll stew crack a beer. Oh, shit. You just gotta bottle a sweat. So, but never once he doesn't have a beer.
Starting point is 01:04:11 You're the best and you're welcome for showing. Oh, that didn't work. And you're welcome for showing you this great podcast. And oh, and you're welcome for showing you this great and well, I don't know. Anyway, so in a way, oh no, it should be. So you're welcome. Oh, you know you know what oh boy this is falling apart. Dylan you got to put some quotes in there some comments now I don't read it and you're
Starting point is 01:04:31 welcome for showing you this great podcast so in a way I am also the best to the both of us seriously I love you and your amazing sister Raul Raul. So happy birthday Melissa. That's so sweet from a from a brother to a sister. You don't really see a lot of that kind of sibling commitment. I often forget to tell my sister happy birthday and we share a birthday. Yeah. It is impossible for me to forget it.
Starting point is 01:04:55 So up next on the old jumbo tron, what I can only assume is another personal message. This message is for Helen, the message is from Jason, and the message reads as follows, sup. Okay, thanks. Yeah. That was a message. Yeah. Yeah. So Helen, if you're out there, Jason says, sup. You'd like to tell someone sup over the jump over to maxfun.com and org max, maximum fund or go go to maxfun.com. No, no, it's born. Go to maximumfund.org slash jumbo.tron. I don't see one there. I believe so. I believe so. But now it's time. For letters from listeners, you write them.
Starting point is 01:05:48 We read them. It's letter time. Letter time. For listeners. Yeah, it's a great song. Not really a song. It was sort of a call response sort of sort of thing. Yeah, it was a thing. That's the great thing about the word thing
Starting point is 01:06:06 is you can use it to describe stuff that doesn't really have a word. Yeah, as a sample. It's earlier. What are those things that the end of your shoelaces called? Who is that guy called in rocks? They're called egglets. And thing is the guy, oh, I see what you did, yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:20 So this first letter is from first name with held, Robert last name with held Hmm, this the middle name who says I soon that's James Robert Ryan Tolkien As with most parents of preteen children the flop house their standard entertainment to listen to while it's shut all in the kids to their various basketball and baseball event Not this one. I hope it's terrible The 13 year old will last until the first sustained Elliott pun run at which time the earphones are put on with an audible sigh.
Starting point is 01:06:51 Kids ate me. She must be paying closer attention than I thought. As the other day, I was watching a movie and she asked me if it was a bad, bad movie, a good, bad movie or a movie I kind of liked. Stewart as the residentinefile. How long until this becomes the new standard rating system for all movies? Yeah. I give it another, what we've been doing this nine years. So one more year, 10 years is the rule. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:16 We have to. Yeah, that's what they have to do. Grandfather in it. So call up the father of movies. Yeah. Thomas Edison. Yes. Call him up. The of movies. Yeah. Thomas Edison. Yes. Call him up.
Starting point is 01:07:26 The new year. And it's the 10 year grandfather you're talking about, Dan. Yeah. 10 year grandfather. That's terrible. Dan, my son would like to know when you're going to find the Jersey devil. Look, it was a long time ago.
Starting point is 01:07:41 Yeah, that's. Yeah, I assume that's a reference to our ghost hunting video. Yeah, that's not even a flop-ass thing. Yeah. That was a video that we made for my old live show, The Primetime Kaelin. If you look up Ghost Hunters, Dan McCoy, L.A. Kaelin, you might come up with a few amusing YouTube videos. Very, very amateur-issued YouTube videos.
Starting point is 01:08:02 Very slap-dash videos that were put together for a live show. And so we're like, that's not put a lot of work into them. Because they're going to be shown once, and then that's it. But yeah, the search continues. Elliott, as the resident comic book expert, what is your opinion on including real characters or other out of context references in your stories. Is there a difference between the Easter egg and a reference slash cameo that breaks you
Starting point is 01:08:28 out of the comic slash movie slash TV shows world? Yeah there is but it's one of those things like like obscenity I know it when I see it it's hard for me to define. It's like there are times when things can get a little too winky and then it's like all right Like I can't buy it to the reality this anymore That is certain I mean Stan Lee's cameos in his movies kind of become that as they get more Baroque, you know Or if you're reading a comic book and there's clearly a scene where the creators the comic are like having a conversation
Starting point is 01:09:02 That can be fun for a panel. But if it's a whole page, forget about it. You're talking to somebody who wrote a series of one page bits where it's just starring Wyatt Sennac and me. Yeah. Corridor with Wyatt, which have been republished in a book that's coming up from Marvel called Secret Wars 2, which is where they reprinted a bunch of their humor books and all my humor stuff is in there. Yeah. I didn't know it existed until they sent me one of the mail.
Starting point is 01:09:29 I prefer when Dave Simm shows up in a service book and he teaches us some real life lessons like the broads, am I right? This movie that we watch they had a real Dave Sim take on women. And last question from this email, House cat, why did you not have a character in the adventures on crossover? Was it just viewed about money or you just too serious for D&D? I'll have to ask him sometime. He doesn't have a lot of time for D&D. I wouldn't say it's too serious. He just doesn't really truck with that nerd shit. You know what I mean? It's a little too cool. Yeah. You know how some people are so cool
Starting point is 01:10:03 that they can do nerdy stuff and still be cool? He's even cooler than that. He's the next step. Yeah. Yeah, it cycles back on itself. He's busy skateboarding, having one of the Frank D'Angelo energy drinks. That's what he drinks now.
Starting point is 01:10:19 Yeah. And you guys ever fantasize about it? Probably. Some kid is in like a home alone situation. He's got to scare up burglars that he's going to use audio files of your podcast clips to scare the burglars away. Not really.
Starting point is 01:10:33 OK. Like you're filthy animal, but yeah, yeah. My classic store willing to fill the animal bit from the Vla Paz podcast. No, I've never thought about that. So this is from Michael last name with Held, who writes, recently I was stricken with a nasty stomach bug to distract me from my nausea and to help cover up the sounds that come along with a nasty stomach bug.
Starting point is 01:10:58 I downloaded a bunch of flop house episodes to cover me as I pressed my face to the cold tile floor of the bathroom. For once in Earth's history, Ellie was singing, actually soothed somebody. Oh, come on. Although Stuart's talk of Wormy boners did not help my queesiness. And with every mournful sigh from Dan, I thought, what the fuck are you so sad about?
Starting point is 01:11:17 I'm dying here, you bastard. Sorry, Dan, it was the virus talking. After a rough couple of days, I realized I was going to live, live and indeed managed to stand on the bathroom bathroom scale to assess the damage. I looked down to find that in two days I had managed to lose seven pounds. What? He strikes again. That's right. It was clear. This was no random illness. No, I've been poisoned by that dastardly supervillain.
Starting point is 01:11:42 Had he been my uber driver the night before? Had he slipped some concoction into my food posing as a line cook? And why had he picked me? Actually, I'm pretty fucking awesome. So that part was understandable. Just be careful out there, fellas. Seven pounds is back in town. Also, what movies do you like to watch when you're sick? My go-to has been like lately, it's been the world's end. Okay. It's one of those things I can just put on and like, I go to my happy place. And sometimes lately I also throw in the guest. The guest is a good one.
Starting point is 01:12:18 Yeah, I would put that on my list. I mean, and likewise, any 80s John Carpenter, which is basically the same thing as the guests. Yep, I would watch where I'm sick. I don't get sick very much. My body just kind of rejects illness, but the first time I had a kidney stone was pretty bad, and I will remember watching from beyond for the first time. And I was like, around the point that Jeffrey Combs, as he's mutating because he's seen another dimension,
Starting point is 01:12:50 sucked the eyeball out of another man's head, I was like, this movie gets where I'm at right now. And it really helps. I suffered a pretty bad arm injury. I broke my humorous after having recently broken my radius. And let me tell you, it was pretty funny. It was not humorous. You beat me to the fucking joke.
Starting point is 01:13:06 So, uh, hello, Dan. High five, awaiting you. Yes, I heard that. I was stuck on the couch for a while, and of course my mom went out and rented me some tapes from the local B-buster. And, uh, B-buster. And she fucking knows me because the top of that stack of tapes
Starting point is 01:13:26 was Jeff Fahey's vehicle body parts. But a guy who gets in a horrible car accident, which is how I broke my arm and gets a grafted arm of a serial killer on his body. And guess what? That arm wants to kill people. Muscle memory. Yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 01:13:45 I'm good at one thing. Why won't they let me do it anymore? Murdering. So this is from Joe Lasting with All Too Rights. The flop has my favorite podcast. Dan and Elliot, I love you guys too, but this question is for my favorite flopper. Stu, thanks for listening.
Starting point is 01:14:01 Oh, okay, thanks Joe Montana, 49ers, former quarterback. Stu. I recently brought bought net runner on your recommendation from the we are your friends at. Okay. However, neither of my roommates, my usually my usual strategy game crew will play with me weird. I was thinking of bringing it to my local board game night,
Starting point is 01:14:22 but I don't want to be that guy that rolls into a game night, convinces someone to play with him, and then takes 20 minutes to figure out how ice works. Yeah. How would you suggest I find someone who I can start playing my new game with? Thanks, Joe, last name with those. Tinder, probably, right? Yeah, I think that's the best way if you're like, hey, you want to crank some fucking ice? I'm gonna run some things.
Starting point is 01:14:41 I would say, I don't know exactly where you live, but I know in New York that if you go look for meet-ups for board games and you can look for meet-ups for the card game question, you can also go on boardgamegeek.com and look at the forums. Yeah, or go on in this case, the producer of that game's community section and find meetups for that game that way. That's what I would suggest. Well, come down to hinterlands bar. The bar is open and I'll play you, dude.
Starting point is 01:15:12 In Brooklyn, New York, he will. Set it up on the bar. Mm-hmm. We'll be talking about ice. Yeah. Both the beverage and the thing in the game. The average? Yeah, yeah, like a, like a icy.
Starting point is 01:15:25 I mean, like you'd put ice in your drink, but I don't, I mean, I guess I'm up now. I get the health department calls it a food at this point. I mean, that seems weird too, but it makes more sense to me. Yeah, that's why a bar counts as a restaurant for the health department. Just for the ice.
Starting point is 01:15:41 Ice counts as food, yeah. Hmm. Go on, Dan. That's a little insight into New York health department regulation. Also, take care of your regulars. Be a Paul Servino. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 01:15:53 Give them a free drink when they lose their house. Yep. Or as you never know, they might go into a bank and start shooting people up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's the seven pounds in this scenario. Ha. Uh, this last one, last letter. I
Starting point is 01:16:09 assume is mostly for Elliott. You never know. Dear Elliott. Oh, then probably. Oh, it starts out with the word Elliott. So when you read things, you usually start in the middle and just kind of like expand outward in concentric rings until you reach the beginning. I saw the word, well, because it's a, it was a hyperlink when I printed it out. I saw President Lincoln underlined. So, so the eyes went to it, because I find that's actually how I read menus a lot of the time, and I have to force myself to go
Starting point is 01:16:38 to do, like, zoom in on a specific, like, if a word catches your eye, you're like, I don't know, like, what bell. And the word is almost always pork steak or chicken. Like it's it. And then you're like, oh, honey, they have chicken. Give me a second. I'm reading. And then I put my bookmark in the part of the menu I left off at, taking the app, use the bathroom, come back.
Starting point is 01:17:00 But I find I have to force myself to start at the beginning of the menu. The appetizer is usually. And then there's a twist ending dessert Wow turns out the chocolate fondue did it Spoiler alert What's that what's that cake doing upside down? We'll find out when we get there, honey. The molten chocolate cake burned him today.
Starting point is 01:17:28 With its lava. Yep. Dan McCoy, dessert detective. Elliot. Have you ever been to President Lincoln's cottage at the Soldiers' home in DC? It's one of the most fascinating and underrated tourist attractions in DC. Far more interesting than Ford's theater, a weird tourist scam hub. It's a modest house in Petworth, where Lincoln lived for much of his presidency.
Starting point is 01:17:50 I'm familiar with the soldier zone. Commuting by horse to the White House, you're with the emancipation proclamation there, and the tour gives a great overview of his personality and the personality of DC as a city. About the tour we give you even greater context for understanding the day-to-day life of Lincoln and the great pressures he faced. I'd also like to recommend this tour to anyone else listing. It's great. And I always encourage tourists to get off the mall and see DC as the great city is. It is. CBC, the Center for Disease Control.
Starting point is 01:18:18 And last name of all. I've actually never been. Interridged is when you force people to watch the Andourage. They don't force them. You just, you know, push it on them a little bit. Yeah, you invite them over for a party and then you just put it on the TV play and you're like, hey, just do what your body wants, guys.
Starting point is 01:18:35 And then they turn it off, because that's what their body wants. The body rejects it. I've actually never been to this old just home. I really wanted to go and I haven't had a trip to DC in years when I've been able to go to. We went to DC for a live show for like a day. Yeah, and LA was like take me to soldier's home. Take me to soldier's home when we're like, no, we don't have time.
Starting point is 01:18:56 LA maybe tomorrow. I would like to see it. We brought the little whiskey on his gums and put them to bed. Yeah, I'm gonna have a fuzzy. a little, we brought a little whiskey on his gums and put them to bed. Yeah, I'm gonna as fussy. I was just reading a book recently about Lincoln's relationship with John Hay and his private, one of his private secretaries later became Teddy Roosevelt's secretary of state among other posts they held.
Starting point is 01:19:17 And it talked about these horse rides that they would do, the two of them between the White House and the soldiers' home. And I was getting so envious for all this concentrated time that he got to spend with Abraham Lincoln, just kind of like hanging out. And I would like to go see it actually for that reason. It was, at the time it was built, it was way off in the woods. And now it's just in DC because the city has expanded. But I'd like to go.
Starting point is 01:19:40 Maybe you could convince Daniel Day Lewis to go with you and he would put on his Lincoln performance. Yeah, that's interesting. There's only a few steps that I'll have to go through to get to that point. Step one, find out how to contact Daniel Day Lewis. I mean, if he's not available, just get Daniel Knight Lewis. Oh, thanks, guys. I've been great tonight. Is that M Night Shyamalan's middle name brother? M.D. Shyamalan. M.D. Shyamalan has no twist endings in this film. You see what you get says M.D. Shyamalan. Hey, now is the time for the last segment on the show.
Starting point is 01:20:22 Okay. I don't know if I have the energy. Yeah, sure I do. Which is when we recommend movies that we actually liked, although we enjoyed. Mm-hmm. No reservations. So, like, no, no, no, no. Yeah, part's unknown.
Starting point is 01:20:36 Yeah. This is a movie that you'd watch as like a double feature with no deposit. Mm-hmm. So, what do you guys want to recommend? I have my recommendation. No, okay, so, okay. I'll go first.
Starting point is 01:20:48 It doesn't mean no pressure, but I've got one. I'm going to recommend a movie that probably doesn't need me to champion for it. This is a movie that was, I guess, a big release when I was a kid and I saw it in the theater. It stars. Eliot's pal sliced alone. It's a movie called Demolition Man. So if you're looking for a big Dan that'll look at a space like you best Why why in 2016
Starting point is 01:21:24 Why, why in 2016? Kind of made me dance stairs into my eyes and hoping to find some kind of understanding there but he says nothing. Not what emptiness. Grizzlies too. So yeah, no, Demolishman is a movie where the greatest sleep tells what it is. There's little known indie hit in deep film. Was it even a hit when it came out? I thought, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:21:51 It was a minor success, I believe. So it's how the miners liked it. Played real well with Harlan County Kentucky. Well, they don't really have much else to watch down the mines. They projected on the Bay Rock. Yeah, the strong who said are you on platform that Silvestre's alone states for. Okay, so Demotion Man is about a greatest copy of the verse, fighting an evil drug dealer,
Starting point is 01:22:12 and they both end up getting charged with a crime and frozen, and then they wake up far in the future, and they get into all kinds of wacky adventure ventures. And the villain in this case is played by Wesley Snipes, and this is genuinely a great over-the-top cartoony performance that would have not been out of place in any of the Tim Burton Batman movies. It's great. It's almost worth watching just on that energy alone. And it's the sort of thing. It's the sort of performance where you're like, kind of surprised at Wesley Snipes isn't
Starting point is 01:22:44 a bigger star because he is so much fun to watch in this movie. I mean, he was a, he has been a huge star. He's gone through this. I mean, he's fallen on hard times, I suppose. I mean, not paying your taxes for many years and then having to pay them all at once will do that to you. Yeah, I suppose. So if you get a chance, if you haven't already seen it, you should go check it out. It's a great example of a good bad movie. And you can finally find out what the three seashells
Starting point is 01:23:10 and the bathroom are all about. You don't know how to use those. Ha ha ha ha. It also has perhaps the most gratuitous piece of nudity in any film ever. Yeah. So let's just learn just gets a wrong video phone call from a nude lady, and that's the entirety of it. She goes, oh, I'm sorry, I thought you were somewhere else. And now gets a wrong video phone call from a new lady and that's the entirety of it
Starting point is 01:23:25 She goes, oh, I'm sorry. I thought you were something else. And now that we have video phone calls You know that shit happens all the time constantly people are constantly misdiling their video phone numbers Okay, so Dan now that you can't recommend Damn you I'm gonna I'm gonna take a page from LA its playbook. I'm gonna recommend a movie from 1935 Just don't take a page from my playboy What if it's one of those like terrible joke pages you can take those those are pretty bad Where if it's an article about travel?
Starting point is 01:23:58 Yeah, or some Norman male or male or article or Norman male. I'm not familiar with his work either of it He's French Norman male or plus manure Norman Malier, male article. Or Norman Malier, I'm not familiar with his word either, but. He's French. Norman Malier plus manure. Um, so, uh, 1935, the version of a mid-summer night stream that was done, uh, and it had a liviate of Haveland as Titania, it had Jimmy Cagney as bottom, it had, Dick Powell as a little sander, I believe. Thanks, and Joey Brown is another.
Starting point is 01:24:30 Joey Brown is a snug, the janitor. The janitor. It's the film version of the, like, what, Max Reinhardt production? I believe that's correct. And it's, to my taste, I know Ellie and I talked about this and we have minor disagreement. To my taste, there's a little too much gauzy photography of fairies running around. Which I think is the biggest strong point of the movie. That's a movie I really like a lot.
Starting point is 01:24:58 And the thing I like the most about it is the like 30s gauzy photographic choreography where there's just like nymphs running around a forest with like a lot of glitter everywhere. It happens a lot. I like that. I like that. I like that. If you like that, then you'll love the 35 minutes of nice drink.
Starting point is 01:25:18 James Kagen is really good in it. Joey Brown is really funny. Yeah. The rude mechanical stuff is very funny. I think it's probably the strongest stuff in the movie. It's an interesting movie to watch. I'm a big fan of the play. It's interesting movie to watch to see how much they cut down the play, like even though the movie is like over two hours long, it's like two 15 or something like that. Make them for all those varies running around. Yeah, there's whole like wide swaths of dialogue that's just replaced by like people making
Starting point is 01:25:48 various faces at each other. The only thing I really don't like in that movie is Mickey Rooney's performance. Mickey Rooney is fucked. That's terrible. He's just very irritating. It's so irritating. I mean, Mickey Rooney came to go broad,
Starting point is 01:26:04 a lot of the time, but this is him as a child, and he like has this like weird like, I'm an old man, but a child's quality about him, and he does this laugh like every other line thing. Yeah. And, but, yeah. Aside from that, I think that's a good movie. Yeah. I think that's still the best film version of that play that I've seen. I think that that's probably true,
Starting point is 01:26:33 but that, that also, it's damn in the very fame praise. Yeah. But, I have seen better stage productions of it. Sure you have. Yeah. But if you're a fan,
Starting point is 01:26:44 if you're a fan of, one in Stratford itself. Oh, wow. Sure you have. Yeah. But if you're fan, if you're fan of one in Stratford itself. Oh wow. You're creating the boards. I guess. If you're fan of Mid-Summer's at all, you should watch the movie. That's what I. And then just go watch the Mid-Summer Night Sex Comedy. A really good movie with a terrible title. Sure. And I'm gonna recommend a movie. I'm gonna take a page from the Elliot Kaylen Playbook and recommend an old movie that's also a foreign film. And I'm gonna recommend, you know what?
Starting point is 01:27:14 Frank D'Angelo just wanted to make movies and he did not like he had training in it at all. He just decided he had a story to tell and he decided to tell it. And this movie was made in similar fashion by a little man named Satya Jitre from India. And this is his first film, Pather Panchali, which I've been putting up watching for years
Starting point is 01:27:32 because even though I love old movies and I love old foreign movies and other foreign movies, I still every now and then get that feeling of like, this is gonna be not as enjoyable as it is like good for me. But Pather Panchali always like a genuinely like Beautiful entertaining movie and it's really heart-breaking really good. It's from the fifties and it's a film about rural Indian poverty but about one family a husband and wife the husband has dreams of being a writer But he's just kind of not supporting his family the wife is the one that pressure falls on and they have two kids, an older daughter and
Starting point is 01:28:09 a younger son. And there's a certain amount of slice of license to it, but there's a lot of height plotting in it also. And I like, don't want to like talk. It's like to describe the plot is not to describe what's interesting about it, but it's like a beautiful looking film and the emotions in it are really strong and the performances are really great. And it's one of those movies where you're like, this was his, the director's first movie,
Starting point is 01:28:33 a number of the actors in it were not professional actors at the time. Like, that's crazy. This is such a good movie. So I highly recommend it. Pay through Panchali. Yeah. Okay. Three equally good movies.
Starting point is 01:28:44 That's right. Yeah, okay, three equally good movies. That's right. Yeah, one was one of the hallmarks of Indian cinema and then you've got kind of golden age Hollywood adapting the greatest writer whoever existed. And then you got Demolition Man. The first of all. We're rated R.
Starting point is 01:28:59 As soon as it would be eight, Celestos Sloan Rob Schneider double feature with Judge Dred. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Also a futuristic adventure. The only Dennis Leary had also been in judge dread. The three must cheers they called them. Yeah, because they loved the candy bar with the same name.
Starting point is 01:29:18 Oh, man, me another candy bar. So I was talking to him. It was good to hear. Hey, I was. I do talking about demolition bands's I had to stop by but I Was running a little long so I just realized I started a bit. That's not a good idea So I think I'm probably gonna get going Questions about your character John Spartan. Don't really remember too much
Starting point is 01:29:37 What was the name of Wesley's knife just got to like Jimmy Phoenix? I know his Phoenix or something anyway Ghosty whatever movie I haven't theaters right now. Is this something out? I don't know Thanks, well get a creed on DVD. Oh, sure. Yeah, people loved it And uh, job shall be back at some point, you know Just open your new bar. Yeah, it's been really successful. We carry bullet bourbon. Oh, like my movie bullet to the head. Yeah, and dad You've got a lot of good things going on. No, that's not true at all. Okay, gotta go Even old slide knows when he's put his foot in the old mouth. So I'm gonna I'm just gonna go
Starting point is 01:30:19 Yeah, he always has his jet back with him. I hope Ellie comes back soon. He's gonna be so man He missed like I'm back guys. I didn Elliot comes back soon. He's going to be so mad. He missed the line. I'm back guys. I didn't miss anything right. I just went to get some more G-tos. Anything I have to hold. So I just want to thank everybody who came out to the Max Von meetup. There was a lot of folks that I hadn't met before and that was really great to meet
Starting point is 01:30:38 so many nice cool folks who came out to the meetup what a week ago at the bar I just opened. It was really humbling to just meet all these really week ago at the bar I just opened. It was really humbling to just meet all these really nice people and get that kind of support. And Dan had a great time too. Yeah, I was also there. I missed it, but I regretted missing it. Hopefully you will get to do more of those things. It's super fun. And if you didn't come out because you were worried that you wouldn't know anybody, you should come out and come and talk to me because at a lot of those things, I mainly spend the time standing around wondering who I can talk to you. Feel free to just walk up to Stuart and tell him you don't listen to the
Starting point is 01:31:15 flop house. Yeah, please do that. People feel fine doing that apparently. In between meetups, you can also check out the flop house on YouTube. Just check out Flophouse podcast. There's a lot of really great stuff. Specifically, there's some really great stuff that's made for that podcast, for our podcast, for our podcast, for that YouTube channel by Tony Oker, which are great. Animated adaptation. Including a recent one featuring...
Starting point is 01:31:40 Featuring. Oh, that's awesome. Oh, yeah. Yeah, man. I hope I'm here the next time he stops by always miss him uh... and i look at each other awkwardly and then uh... and yeah and if you're looking for any uh...
Starting point is 01:31:53 christmas presents or whatever man just just because presents uh... don't forget that we got merch available the max fund store including a really awesome poster by the artist Tom Fowler, where all of our proceeds for it go directly to the American Foundation for Suicide Prevention. A great cause, okay. Thanks, too, for that housework. This episode was so packed full of experiences.
Starting point is 01:32:18 We watched a really crazy, funny movie. We celebrated nine years together. We talked about the whole cost of rubber loja. We talked about the whole cost of fair amount. And recommended some movies, had some laughs, said hello to some people, said sup to one person in particular. Yeah. Helen.
Starting point is 01:32:35 Sup, Helen. The taking of Helen, one, two, three. Well, I hope that Helen has a good time. I hope that you've all had a good time. But, uh, we've got to come to an end and we're dying So as we put ourselves We sign off saying I've been Dan McCoy and this guy's been Stewart Wellington. And over here, still tiny, Elite K-Lin. And I, everyone.
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Starting point is 01:33:33 I will talk like this, like a robot, the whole episode. It won't get annoying, I promise. Okay. All right. Yeah, I guess you gotta do the hand motions. I'm doing them even though they cannot hear for realism. Uh-huh, yeah. You can hear the confidence of the hand motions in the voice.
Starting point is 01:33:51 Yep. It helps my performance posture. That's, uh, that was the, the directing you gave during MST3K, right? I said, hey, move like a robot while you're saying those things. Move like a robot. move like a robot while you're saying those things. Move like a robot. Move like a robot. That's what's the tune of smooth operator. Robot.
Starting point is 01:34:12 Yeah. Boom operator. Boom operator. That's the, that's the farthest I've ever gotten with that parody. I haven't taken a matter for a while. Yeah, that's pretty good. Maximumfund.org Comedy and culture.
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