The Flop House - High Rollers, with Jordan Morris

Episode Date: February 14, 2026

Yes, we never heard of it either. But trust us when we say that High Rollers (sequel to the equally nonexistent movie Cash Out) makes for a helluva S-tier Flop House episode, especially when it featur...es longtime friend of the show Jordan Morris as our guest. Is Travolta the new Nic Cage? Well, if you're watching Face/Off, yes, definitely. But in terms of FH movie greatness? Yeah, maybe!Stay updated on all things Flop House, plus a little extra, with our NEWSLETTER, “Flop Secrets!Download the MP3 directly, HEREPaste https://feeds.simplecast.com/EOAFriME into iTunes (or your favorite podcatching software) to have new episodes of The Flop House delivered to you directly, as they’re released.Wikipedia page for High RollersRecommended in this episode:Dan: Send Help (2026)Stu: Reflection in a Dead Diamond (2025)Elliott: The Saragossa Manuscript (1965)Jordan Morris: 28 Years Later: Bone Temple (2026)

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Starting point is 00:00:00 On this episode, we discuss high rollers. Don't worry, we hadn't heard of it either. I'm Dan McCoy. I'm Elliot Kalin. I went for the opposite volume. You guys started low and went high, and then I started high and went low. I de-heighted. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:00:40 And who's joining us today? We have a special guest with us today, don't we? It's me, Jordan Morris. I'm doing both kinds of energy. This won't be annoying. But he's moving away from the mic because he's a podcast professional. That's right, Jordan Morris, podcasting legend of Jordan Jesse Go. Yeah, he's a podcasting legend.
Starting point is 00:01:02 He is a Jack Black impersonator. He is, you know, but like non-professional. No, no, no. If you have a children's birthday party and you want a Jack Black performer to show up, but you can't afford Jack Black, Jordan Morris will be Jack Black at your children's birthday party. You've got to give them a couple of days to grow that beard a little bit crazier. Yeah, I was telling the guys, before we started recording,
Starting point is 00:01:27 I'm keeping my beard a little tidier in the new year, 2026, the year of the tidy beard for me. Yeah, last year for you was the year of the castaway beard. Yeah, right. And then Wilson broke up with me. I had a tragic up with Wilson Yeah Oh, that's rough I read about in the tracks Yeah
Starting point is 00:01:46 I saw his DMs And he was So you're saying Wilson's free? Yeah, but don't try And tie Wilson down Believe me Yeah
Starting point is 00:01:55 Listen, if you just want a quick Roll in the sand with Wilson But try and get that volleyball To come in Yeah, he's got the body For rolling in this screen He loves to roll No, but I am
Starting point is 00:02:07 I'm keeping the beard tidier for many reasons, but one of them is because when it was bigger and bushyer, like kids were stopping me on the street to ask me if I was Jack Black. I think this is a great chance for us all to go around and say what celebrities people say we have looked like. Elliot, you go next. Has anyone stopped you on the street to say you look like Jack Black? No, not like Jack Black.
Starting point is 00:02:30 Usually if there's some kind of nerdy celebrity, people don't say, you don't think I'm that person, but they say I look like someone nerdy, you know. Yeah. I haven't gotten any celebrity comparisons in recent years. Well, that's not true. Since I got the beard, there's a lot of Riker. But when I was... That's pretty cool.
Starting point is 00:02:49 That's a good one. But nobody thinks you're actually Riker. No, no one thinks I'm actually right. A much older man. No, it's like what we've gotten. It's not like... Stewart, you know, we don't all have to be mistaken for these things, right? Clarify the question for us.
Starting point is 00:03:02 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, not mistaken for... Yeah, yeah. Okay, I was just saying... I was just want to ascertain. that unlike Jordan Mars, people go up and say, are you Jack Black? No one went up to you and said,
Starting point is 00:03:13 are you Jonathan Frakes, the actor played Riker? Yeah. Dan, can you help me? I have two stories, and I need to know which ones are fact and which ones are fiction. At one point,
Starting point is 00:03:25 I occasionally would get another member of the next generation crew. I would get Brent Spiner. When I was younger, I would get John Cusack. Oh, that's pretty good. That's pretty good. Great ones.
Starting point is 00:03:37 And obviously, I get plenty, but the two that I feel like were least accurate but still very complimentary were Michael Fastbender, and I had just seen shame, so I was like, hell yeah. And I'm like, man, he's dragging one. And somebody, an Australian person said I look like Heath Ledger, and I'm like, that's factually incorrect, but I appreciate the. Man, yeah. Let me check the encyclopedia of people who look like other people.
Starting point is 00:04:04 It's not in here. No. Yeah, right. Yeah. I appreciate it. Hey, if you like put me through a database, like they might use in the movie we watch today. Yeah, yeah. Like a criminal database.
Starting point is 00:04:18 Yeah. Yeah, speaking of that movie, what we do on here on this podcast, the Flathouse, is not talk about beards or celebrity look likes. We just did, Dan. We just did. Yeah, I got to check the encyclopedia. Let me see. Incorrect things said on podcast. Let me see.
Starting point is 00:04:35 That's in there now. Let me see the video footage, because you're telling me that we're not talking about. about it, but we're talking about it. Yeah. That's true. Okay. Well, it's not the prime directive. Uh-huh?
Starting point is 00:04:44 Of our podcast. Oh, very Jonathan Franks of you. Maybe it is right here. Now I see it. I see it now. Uh, of course, the prime directive is we talk about, uh, movies that have gotten a critical or... We don't interfere with movies that have not yet discovered space travel. Yes.
Starting point is 00:05:00 We don't do that. And movie shall never kill movie. Oh, yeah, of course. Yeah. We discuss movies that are critical or commercial. flops and talk about what we thought about them. And on this episode, we saw a movie that I don't think was in theaters. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:05:19 I would be surprised. According to Wikipedia, it grossed $72,805 in the United Arab Emirates. So it was in theaters in at least one country. Unless those are video rentals in the UAE. But yeah, when you say like movies that a critical commercial flop, like a movie like this is kind of ask yourself, Is this a real movie? Or is this like, did a guy spend a lot of money to get some famous people together
Starting point is 00:05:43 to make like a bar mitzv video? Yeah, I feel like calling it a flop doesn't take into account all the effort they went into just giving birth to it in the first time. Yeah, sure. I could see this being something that they showed at the like
Starting point is 00:05:55 company Christmas party for the hotel it was filmed. Like everybody gets, like everybody has a little cameo and you like clap when Dan from HR pops up. Yeah. In the background, someone's just staring at John Travolta, obviously. Considering this is, this is, one thing we should say about that, this is a movie directed by Ives, which is Randall Ives Emmett, the actual real-life basis of the character Turtle on Entourage. So that is the pedigree that this movie has.
Starting point is 00:06:24 Interesting. Yeah, okay, well, when I say critical or commercial flop, in this case, I put this movie on the docket in part because it did show up on a lot of, like, worst of last year. lists. And it's got big stars in it. Well, that's the thing. This would be... This would definitely qualify for, I think, a small timber movie, if not for the fact that it has, you know, some recognizable names in it.
Starting point is 00:06:50 John Travolta, of course, foremost among them, but also Gina Gershawin, Gershon, Lucas Haas. Quovo of the Migos? Did we get out of them? Did we run out of... Quavo? Cuevo. Quavo.
Starting point is 00:07:01 Quavo? Quavo. Is it a Cuavo? But one of the members of the Migos, huge group. Huge hip-out. Oh, okay. That's who that is. I was like, who's this one-named fellow.
Starting point is 00:07:11 And then a number of other actors and actresses who are not as recognizable. And this is kind of in that geyser-teaser genre of film where... What's a geyser teaser? These movies are mostly used for tickling the testicles of a lot. Well, and the taint. That's when you tell your grandpa you're going to Sizzler, but then you never go to Sizzler. We might go soon. They put it on after Frank Yankers.
Starting point is 00:07:41 Now we got Gyser Teasers. Once you yanked your crank, you got to tease your geyser. Coming up soon on Comedy Central in 1998. Crank Acres, then Geeser Teasers, then The Daily Show with John Stewart. Then another cranky anchors. We got to get your numbers up. Geyser Teasers is blasting me out of the water, guys.
Starting point is 00:08:04 And you have this amazing lead-in from Geyser Teasers. Then what would Compti Central show after that? Like, stewardess school or Ninja Academy or something like that? Maybe in its early years. You guys are threatening me with a good time. PCU, PCU? PCU. Or reruns of Whose Line Is It Anyway for like four straight hours.
Starting point is 00:08:22 Sounds like a good time. So, no, this is a teaser teaser. We didn't know how good we had it. We had no idea that that was wonderful. Yeah, exactly. This is Bencoigne. Sometimes you don't know what you got until it's gone. They paved Comedy Central.
Starting point is 00:08:36 and put up just nonstop office reruns. Yeah. They don't generate. I mean, it's just South Park and Daily Show, right? And the new things. The new things? Well, I mean, they're producing new episodes. They're both like 20 years old.
Starting point is 00:08:50 They're producing new episodes. It's not the thing that's not a re-referred. I mean, we've entered a world where my parents now ask me if I've watched South Park because they watch South Park all the time. Yeah, because it's an American institution now. Meanwhile, Comedy Central is not making new episodes of small doses, not making new episodes of Limbo Land, not making new episodes of Ted Goes to the Orient.
Starting point is 00:09:07 No vacant lot. No episodes of vacant lot. Exactly, yeah. Exit 57. Exit 57. That's right. I was going to say Route 57. Which is actually the road you take to get into the Heinz factory.
Starting point is 00:09:18 What happened to Higgins Boys and Gruber? Well, man, I haven't seen one of those in a long time. I do hear they're working on a soft reboot of Crowed Mandune. That's like the only name I'm working. That was my, when I worked for a Comedy Central show at midnight. And that was always when we needed to, when, we needed to take a shot at the network. Just a playful rib at our, you know, corporate moms and pops.
Starting point is 00:09:42 Just nipping the hand that feeds you a little bit. Yes, we would say we would always make a reference to crowed mandoon. And the flaming sort of fire, yeah, yeah. No, sure, sure. Anyway. To answer a question posed long ago, a geyser teaser is a phrase that has been coins to describe these movies. Like, often, you know, funded with a lot of, like, overseas money and shot overseas on the cheap where you get an aging star
Starting point is 00:10:06 and that is what who's the aging star in this one? Lucas Os. But like, you know, before, you know, sadly, dementia, like, prevented him from making more movies. Like, a lot of those Bruce Willis late period movies,
Starting point is 00:10:21 that was the genre. Because it was, I think Bruce Willis helped to, I mean, it's the kind of thing that, to be honest, international movies have been doing for decades, where they take someone who is a big name, who is maybe no longer headlining
Starting point is 00:10:33 big American movie. And they say, we'll pay you a certain amount of money to be in it. And Bruce Willis was the modern pioneer of it where he literally had a rate where he's like, if you pay me this amount of money, I will do, you know, three days of shooting for your movie. It doesn't matter what the movie is. It could be a snuff film. It could be, he didn't say that. But, and John Travolta is certainly in that place in his career.
Starting point is 00:10:54 Yeah. That being said, guys, let's meet our geysers. John Travolta. I love that. This is now a branded segment. I love it. Looking more and more But not too fast, okay?
Starting point is 00:11:08 Now I want to make it very clear The geyser label does not apply to Gina Gershon, one of my favorites Who is great in this Great and everything. I love her. You know, and I'm He's not,
Starting point is 00:11:20 he's certainly thrown away his goodwill, but I'm, you know, I'm still fond of John Travolta. I don't want to like make, and do fun of him, but I will say
Starting point is 00:11:28 after claiming that I won't make fun of him, that he's looking in this more and more like a woolly-willy where you've put all the iron shavings on the beard area and he's, I feel like his neck vertebrae up and fuse or something, I'm not sure. At this point, John Travolta is 70, he's going to be 72 years old.
Starting point is 00:11:50 Just a couple weeks after we record this. And I think the dark beard is intended to make him seem younger than he is. But instead, there's a certain amount of, like non-CGI Robert De Niro and the Irishman about it where it's like he moves like an older man even though he's trying to look like a younger man I mean I would let's give him this
Starting point is 00:12:10 I would I would kill to look that good at 72 I mean like he's he looks better than you do now Dan oh well I don't know about I mean the whole Riker thing people have been saying I mean his beard does look pretty good you good point yeah Dan you do look like Riker my beard at least looks less like iron shavings you look like Riker when Riker meant something
Starting point is 00:12:30 mm-hmm you're right he's I apologize He doesn't look better than you do. It's an even 50-50 split. Thank you. So, speaking of Travolta, he and Gene Garshan are at a fake-looking beach. Do we have to mention that this is a sequel? Yeah, that's...
Starting point is 00:12:47 I think we should. So something we didn't know going into the movie. Yeah. Well, you got started in the plot of the movie. I figure we should mention that the movie is a secret. I didn't have a break in here where I go back. There's not a number. There's not a subtitle.
Starting point is 00:13:00 And it takes a couple minutes into the movie to realize that this is a sequel to tar. They're watching a news story about tar on the beginning of this. Oh, this is the Tarverse. Somebody's playing, what is that, Monster Hunter? Monster Hunter, yeah, she's conducting a Monster Hunter concert. Oh, this does take place in the TCU.
Starting point is 00:13:21 Oh, okay, sure, yeah. And then someone says, cancel culture has really gotten out of control. And that's how you know. All joking aside, the experience of watching this movie, not knowing that it is a sequel to a movie I've never heard of, called Cash Out was it did make me think I was being gaslit by the movie
Starting point is 00:13:38 because the characters are presented as if you already know who they are they're referring to events that you didn't see happen you don't know what's going and like I was like wow this is I mean this is pretty kind of avant-garde
Starting point is 00:13:50 for this low-budget movie that it reminds me of I once had to read for I worked at a company that was looking at different intellectual properties to see if they were interested in adapting them
Starting point is 00:14:01 at this small film production and they had me read one of the Dortmunder novels and it was like the 12th in the series and I'd never read any of them before and I was like oh wow these characters are really rich backstories like they're always referring to like adventures they had before and this is like reading a Marvel comic 30 years in but that's what the opening of this movie is like they expect the audience to be very aware of what happened in Cash Out just fleeting references they're like you'll pick it up you'll pick it up you know this already cash out I mean yeah I mean for the most part you can watch this comfortably without knowing.
Starting point is 00:14:34 I mean, like, the very beginning, I think, is confusing. And then there's some stuff at the end where I'm like, okay, I guess this is again, like, flashing. But like, you don't have to know that much, but I'm going to give you a quick, a quick summary based on Wikipedia. Ooh, okay. So in the first one, Travolta, who plays Mason Goddard,
Starting point is 00:14:55 was a criminal mastermind. He was supposedly, like, at the beginning you think he's unknowingly in this relationship with an undercover FBI agent, which is Gershawn's role, but she was played by Kristen Davis in the first movie. So this is actually...
Starting point is 00:15:10 They recast her? Yeah, they recast. And which, what that teaches you is that Gina Gershon has a lower quote than Kristen Davis. That's what we can infer from that. A sad state of the world. It was just double-booked, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:15:23 And that character's name is Amelia Decker. I think it's very funny that Mason, who is in love with this character, calls her Decker throughout the film. For most of the time, he refers to her last name, which is really funny. It's something that you see in other movies sometimes where, like, the wife calls the husband by his last name, and you're like,
Starting point is 00:15:40 I know everybody else does. It seems weird for you to do that, you know. But there's apparently some, like, movie opening action incident, which, you know, where he finds out that she's FBI and he retires from criminality. But his brother, Sean, Lucas Haas, convinces him to do a heist of some crypto. But that hard drive also has blackmail information for some U.S. officials, which leads to a hostage situation
Starting point is 00:16:03 where his ex is a main negotiator. It's always a hostage situation. So this, okay, so one of the several MacGuffins in this movie is something they call the dirt box. Is this the origin of the dirt box, Dan? It's a box with all this blackmail stuff on it? I only got that at the end of the movie when they were like, this is the dirt box.
Starting point is 00:16:27 And I'm like, what the fuck? Why aren't you explaining me what this is? And then I'm like, oh, dirt, blackmail dirt. I get it. It sounds like the name of like a real party animal you went to college with. Oh, dirt box. I'm a good time tonight. What's he up to?
Starting point is 00:16:42 It's like a... He's not doing so good. Dirtbox died in a balcony collapse. Oh, the bareways for dirtbox to go. Let's do a whole moment of silent for dirt. It does feel like... It wasn't the fall. It was that he fell into a bed of a possums.
Starting point is 00:16:59 Oh, they're dangerous, savage creatures. That does sound like... Dirtbox could be stewards' alter ego if you wanted to have a, you know, Sasha Fierce. I think if we self-produced a, like, fifth-tier revenge of the nerds rip-off movie in another country, then there'd be a character named Dirtbox who's like the booger of that movie, you know. Oh, man. That's my dream role, guys.
Starting point is 00:17:20 You're kind of selling me on this project. Where's the pussy? Yeah, Dirtbox! Exactly. They're doing Revenge of the Nerds knockoff. in Argentina for no money. Stuart, will you play dirtbox? Play dirtbox
Starting point is 00:17:35 or become? Yeah, you're going to do a Jared Leto method and he's going to embed himself with a bunch of like college age dirt bags. I'm one of you guys. What's up, dude?
Starting point is 00:17:48 Six, seven. Yeah, dirtbox! Anyway, the movie has a hostage situation where Yeah, Lucas Haas is in it. Lucas Haas. His ex is the main negotiator. And at the end of all that, Mason faces death.
Starting point is 00:18:07 And there's the surprise twist of the end that Amelia was on Travolta's side. The whole time, the beginning was just a setup to make the FBI think she was loyal to them. But she was being his mole in the department. A mole. Mole. It's a beautiful sauce. Yeah. Rich.
Starting point is 00:18:22 Very rich. Chocolate and cinnamon. Very rich. So that's the first movie Cash Out. Because throughout this one, Lucas Haas keeps going... And we're done, guys. Lucas Haas keeps going, remember the crypto drive in Seattle,
Starting point is 00:18:37 the one I was talking about? And it's like, they need in a little asterisk that said, back in cash out, Smiling Stan. Yeah. Just to tell you it's a reference. And you mentioned Smiling Stan, so I do want to point out that this movie is...
Starting point is 00:18:49 The movie we're talking about High Rollers is written by kind of Flop House royalty. The writer was the writer and director of a movie called I know who killed me the first appearance of Elliot Kaelin, right? Or, wow. On the podcast, I wasn't in that movie.
Starting point is 00:19:05 Check out episode 8, Ed. Daffy Dan. Smiling Stewart. There's some other, there was some other flop house connection. No, that, that, I think, I've also produced another movie
Starting point is 00:19:24 that we did on the show. I'm going to take another look real quick. That tracks. I once met a bunch of people on the road to St. Ives. Hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah. A lot of wives.
Starting point is 00:19:35 A lot of wives these guys. Oh, Alex Cross, he produced, which we did. Quentin is he also was a producer on Bad Lieutenant Portal Call New Orleans. That's a great movie. That's a great movie. Righteous Kill, which I think we also did. He was a producer on.
Starting point is 00:19:46 The Wicker Man, he was a producer on. So, yeah, he's done plenty of Flop House covered stuff. Great. So he does movies, but only is someone from face office involved. Yeah. Well, speaking of face-off, so Travolta and Gershahn are at this beach. Speaking of face-off, Dan, please stop taking your face off. It's hot in here.
Starting point is 00:20:11 They're at this beach. The 37th since retirement, they're, you know, celebrating being successful criminals. And they're, you know, Lucas Haas is there. Anton is there. Whole family. They're all there. Isn't it someone's wedding, right? Yeah, Anton, well, I'm getting there.
Starting point is 00:20:28 Anton is officiating a beach wedding of people that I write down here. I assume we met in the first movie. It's Link and, what is it, like Cam or something? He was like a Carrie. Carris. Carras. So Link, who is their tech specialist? Which is a reference to what, Leo Carracks, the director?
Starting point is 00:20:46 Probably. Yeah, I think so. It's a holy rollers. It's for high rollers. And Link is a reference to Zelda, of course. Right, right, right. So, and I think there's a couple points. in this movie where you can really tell that it was put together by the very old.
Starting point is 00:21:01 And I think Link is one of them because it seems to me the logic of like, of the logic of that is like, oh, she's the hacker. So she follows Internet Links. Like it's like calling her microchip or something. Anyway, there's a couple moments like that where I'm like, oh, this was this was thrown together by 70-year-olds trying to make something that seemed current. And Karris, is he in Cashout? Because the way they're talking about him, so he used to work for.
Starting point is 00:21:27 He worked at the bank where the thing was held that they were heisting, I guess. And obviously fell in love with the hacker involved in the heist. And he's played by the actor Swin Temel. His first name is Swin. He looks like a Swin. According to Wikipedia, he was in the movie in time.
Starting point is 00:21:43 Another Flop House covered. Okay. Yes, connection. We're running out of movies, guys. We've covered them all, yeah. Anyway, this wedding. And you know, he, I like this guy who's backstories, like, I worked at a bank
Starting point is 00:21:55 and that's like what he contributes to the heist crew at some point to like show his bona fides he just goes hey I know finance there's a couple members of this crew where I'm not quite sure what they like Anton just played by Cuevo I'm not really sure what he does as part of the role he has a specialty the way that Link does he's like fun to have around
Starting point is 00:22:16 yeah I think Link could just take care of this whole heist there's a much. Link does most of the work on the heist yeah but Then, breakout character. Yeah. But then you need a guy to explain what a Roth IRA is. And that's where our finance guy comes.
Starting point is 00:22:34 To me. Boy, they say you need one. Once this heist is over, I don't think I'm going to diversify. Hold on, hold on. Explain to you why you should. You have too much money in your checking account. It's not doing anything there.
Starting point is 00:22:46 I want to make the money work for you. I know. I know finance. You can't keep all the money in the dirt box. You got to spread it around. I have a box full of dirt and put my money in there. Buried.
Starting point is 00:22:59 Burry it so that people can't find it. There you go. That's why people launder money is because it was in the dirt box. It's got so much dirt on it. They literally haven't made it out of the first season of this book. Look at how dirty this one dollar bill is. It looks like George Washington just stuck his face
Starting point is 00:23:13 in a chocolate cake. What are you doing? Why are keeping $1 bill's in the dirt box? Just put them in your pocket. Put them in the pocket. So this wedding is... My dirt pocket? Why is your pocket full of dirt?
Starting point is 00:23:24 This one. In case someone reaches their hand in, I don't want to be able to find the money inside. It's actually a good idea. It's a really good idea. Pickpocketing is a problem. They made a whole movie about it. It's called pickpocket, yeah. This wedding is interrupted not by an objection, but a yacht blowing up.
Starting point is 00:23:42 Some would say that's the biggest objection. Yeah. If anyone does not approve of this union. Rochester's wife was on the yacht. If anyone does not approve of this union, please blow up a yacht. Oh, so many yachts. Wow. These killer whales
Starting point is 00:23:59 really don't want you to get married. So a bunch of gunmen working for Salazar, who's the crime lord they ripped off in the first movie. Salazar is such a classic crime lord name. It is a casually racist crime lord name. Yes, it is a casually racist crime lord name. But then we get like a serious, shitty comic book,
Starting point is 00:24:19 a bad guy name as the other bad guy in this movie. I don't want to spoil it. No, no. That is a, that is a, A wonderful, terrible bad day name. Yeah, yeah. So these, some armed people show up with fans and helicopters. They kidnap Amelia, Gina Gershoun.
Starting point is 00:24:35 There's, you know, a car chase. That was when I was like, this better not be the end of Gina Gershon in the movie. I will not accept that. And it's the big exciting opening. Like, isn't that what Netflix tells all their filmmakers that they got to have a big exciting action sequence right up top? And they deliver. You got to catch the audience's attention within like the first 30 to 45 seconds.
Starting point is 00:24:55 Netflix is always worried that the audience has no tolerance for anything. And it is just watching with their faint thumb hovering over the off button, just waiting for a moment to check out. I'll hit play and then you hit skip as soon as possible. But this car chase, could you guys follow what was going on? I had real trouble understanding what was going happening. All the action scenes in this movie are incoherent. Before we go to the car chase, what happened? Like, so they take Gina Gershaw.
Starting point is 00:25:25 But then all of a sudden, he's just driving a car. Like, it's crazy. And they don't show him getting in, and I didn't know what car he was in for most of these things. I'm like, I assume it's this muscle car that it's like a, you know, it's kind of like a Dom Torretto muscle car. As opposed to a sub-turretto. And if they've been on to all these beaches,
Starting point is 00:25:45 is this like a rental? Yeah. I thought he was in that, like, van, that like black van, but maybe that's when she was in. Honestly, that might have been the car he was in. And also it's like, the guys arrived in helicopters, did they leave the helicopters behind
Starting point is 00:25:58 and getting to combat? Like, just stuff in a helicopter and take off. He can't follow you in that. You don't even see the guys who are holding them at gunpoint leave. Just all of a sudden, he's chasing them. It's like Memento. He suddenly blacked out between, like, oh, I'm in a car.
Starting point is 00:26:15 Yeah. Am I chasing them? Oh, they're chasing me. If there was a time jump and he was driving a car and his clothes were covered in blood, I'd be like, oh, that's kind of crazy. Or if there's a time jump, and suddenly he's an old man in the year in the year 2242.
Starting point is 00:26:28 And he's like, oh, why did the robots outlaw rock and roll? Yeah. Why didn't that happen, Dan? Because it's too powerful, Stuart. You can't stop the rock. You cannot stop. Dix has already run that war game. And it turns out rock and roll will find a way.
Starting point is 00:26:46 You know, turtles is shot at from a helicopter. He crashes the car. His 70-year-old bones do not shatter. He goes back to find that their resources have been. I hate to break it to you. This was all fake. This didn't actually happen. Okay.
Starting point is 00:27:00 Traholtah, and to it, pretty quickly, this is because someone wants them to do a job, and he goes around, sort of just explaining to the audience, who everyone is.
Starting point is 00:27:09 He's like, but we can do it. Link, with your computer skills, and you and the other guy. I actually think this movie would have been funnier if he had shattered all his bones and he had to do this whole heist
Starting point is 00:27:20 from like a wheelchair like a big body cast. Yeah, but that does kind of seem like how these people are in these movies in a weird way. Like, there are just shots in this movie where it's clear John Travolta
Starting point is 00:27:31 is not in the room with anybody else. Like, they just had, they had five days with him. He, like, ran around a warehouse for a little bit. But yeah, I would think that at some point in one of these movies, they have to be, and someone's in a hospital bed
Starting point is 00:27:45 because it, like, would make sense. And speaking of how little time they have with the stars, I have written down here, Travolta is giving a performance like someone who was handed the script two minutes ago. Like everything he says. Very possible. He's still, I'll say this for him,
Starting point is 00:27:59 he's still charismatic. He's still charming. He's got charisma. I don't buy him, I don't buy him as an intense professional criminal who is then taking on the role of another person to pull off a heist, you know,
Starting point is 00:28:13 but still. I believe that he's like a silly rich guy just like wandering into the scene, which is the character he's supposed to be playing. I guess so, and which is what he is, I guess, and really. But the facts that, silly rich guy he doesn't seem to have like you know he wasn't given time to prepare and the lines are so stilted like the movie feels like the cast is trying to improvise an action movie often the way they say things um it just like everyone seems weird as they go along if i would say if it was if it reached the level of improvisational mischief and delight of a movie like selene and julie go boating i would say that it is tapping into the childlike nature of play in that they are
Starting point is 00:28:54 making it as they go along, but that's not really the case. What it really does feel like is like they're coming up with problems in the script and they're like, let me say something that kind of gets around that. There's a moment like that that I made note of.
Starting point is 00:29:09 This is in the, later in the Giner Gershant story, she's like trying to escape her kidnapper. And she like tries to like put one over on him and then ends up having to like beat people up. And she says, can't help a girl for trying. I think what she was going for was you can't blame a girl for trying
Starting point is 00:29:29 but she said, can't help a girl for trying and they just left it in the movie. And that would make sense. Like, okay, there's nothing in the script. You just have to say something. Say a cliche. Say, you know, we've got company. And then they can't really remember it.
Starting point is 00:29:43 Very fucking weird. And she says it and they're like, well, I don't want to say Gina Gershanna's wrong. She's so hot. Her family said that. I would bet you that she said it and then she was like, wait, that didn't come out right and they said, moving on.
Starting point is 00:29:58 We got a big of it. We got another setup. It's fine. It's fine. We're getting into Golden Time. That's a wrap for Gina Grishon, everybody. She's like, wait, can I just do it one more time? No, no, it's good, it's good.
Starting point is 00:30:09 I'll record our voice memo. I'll send it to you. No, no. Can't help the girl for trying. One of my favorite inexplicable thing. Can't try a gurp for Loppin. Yeah, it's good. It's good.
Starting point is 00:30:21 Just keep it. Let me power through to this first very inexplicable thing in this movie. It's confirmed that they're wanted for this job. They get a call. They go to their hotel to check out, I guess, and the FBI agents are there. They give chase. And they all escape by jumping fully clothed into a pool to reach the other side. I'm like, there's no way that that's the only way you can get to the other side of this fucking pool.
Starting point is 00:30:49 But also the idea that is the other side of the pool outside the FBOR? FBI's jurisdiction. It is so unclear how this helps them to escape a team of FBI agents. And they give the impression that this jump into the pool is dangerous, but the way it's shot is very close up. So you have no idea how far they're jumping. They don't show them in relation to the pool. I'm sure in actuality, they just jumped off the diving board that was at the hotel.
Starting point is 00:31:14 It looks like they jump off the side of the pool. That's why it doesn't make any sense. It looks like, wait, you have to go through the pool to get to the other side of the pool. Let me introduce you to an idea of a lot. walking around. They are trying... It's like little kid logic where you're like,
Starting point is 00:31:26 no, no, no, the rules are. Otherwise, you step on lava, then you die. Yeah. They're trying to replicate butch casting in the Sanchez kid jumping off a cliff into a river to get away from guys.
Starting point is 00:31:37 But it's just the side of a pool into a pool. And like, I didn't understand. I was so baffled by this. I was like, how did this help them escape? I don't understand. Like, the FBI is like, hey, they're all wet.
Starting point is 00:31:48 I don't want to touch them. But also in the very next shot where they're running, They're completely dry. They're totally dry. They ran early fast, yeah. They ran through the last stage of a car wash and those huge blower fans just dried them on.
Starting point is 00:32:02 That it is, this is, yeah, this was real little kid logic. Like, yeah, we jumped in a pool, so we're safe, right? We're like, 10 minutes in the movie, and I was like, hell yeah, we're cooking here, yes. So by this point in the movie, I was like, I was like, this movie expects me to know who all these characters are already. I saw a car chase I did not understand. I don't know how they got away from the FBI this,
Starting point is 00:32:22 way. Like, it's, it is, the movie is making it very easy on the heroes and very hard on the viewer. Yeah. So they all take a plane somewhere. I do like watching them all like, like clown car out of the littlest
Starting point is 00:32:35 private chat. And they're getting a briefing about this job that they're being blackmailed into in a plane hanger. And what it is, they're supposed to rob. They're being, being, by Mr. By Mr. Ford. Hold on. This is the name that Stuart,
Starting point is 00:32:48 I don't want to, Stuart, tease before. Zade Black. Zade Black. This is a shrimping magnate who owns the casino too. A plus like evil wrestler name.
Starting point is 00:33:01 They're being told us by Mr. Flowers who works for Salazar. And Mr. Flowers is like you got to rob Zade Black. And it's so funny. He's like, yeah, he made his money in shrimping. He owned a shrimp factory and then he bought a casino. And you will find out later in the movie the casino and the shrimp factory are
Starting point is 00:33:15 right next to each other. And are connected by like a tunnel. So it's like how bad does this casino smell that it's right next to a shrimp factory. Famously good smelling places, casinos. But it's got to smell better than a place where seafood is processed.
Starting point is 00:33:31 I feel like the the like pall of cigarette smoke would cover the shrimp smell. Maybe I'm wrong. Casino is the one thing that smells worse than a shrimp factory. Then turn it around. Do you want your factory where you were processing food to be full of the smells of people smoking cigarettes
Starting point is 00:33:47 inside a casino? No, of course not. And crying. Yeah. So there's a There's a pretty cool scene where, like, Flowers is explaining the shrimp magnate, and he's like, this guy made his money in shrimp, barbecue shrimp, shrimp, shrimp salad, shrimp sandwich, Shripe and Dufe. He goes on for so long. They're trying to get this movie over 85 minutes.
Starting point is 00:34:07 And that was the reason why they then put out the very successful Flowers Gump Shrimp restaurant franchise. At every ball. You guys ever think it's... Flowers Gump Shrimp. Do you guys ever think it's weird that there's an actual restaurant, the bubble Gump Shrimp Company. That's weird.
Starting point is 00:34:23 Yes. It's a restaurant based on one movie. A movie that came out... A movie that came out 32 years ago. Those restaurants are still growing strong and it's not like that's the main thing
Starting point is 00:34:34 you walk out of Forest Gump thinking about is shrimp. The movie's not about shrimp. I mean, my wife might. She really likes shrimp. Okay, well, that's fair. That's fair. Has anyone ever watched
Starting point is 00:34:44 Forest Gump on their phone while in that restaurant? Probably, yeah. They call it Gump. They call it Gump Gooning. I wouldn't advise it, yeah. Is it like when you go into a Margaritaville, they're playing live performances by Jimmy Buffett.
Starting point is 00:34:58 Are they constantly playing... Clips for Forrest Gump? Yeah, they're playing like, Yeah, fortunate son to your Vietnam now. I've been to a Bubba Gump, embarrassingly recently. And I could say, yeah, it is... How are the dough boys?
Starting point is 00:35:12 Shamefully, I just went to eat, not to talk about it on a podcast. What's the point? Because I needed food. And have a really good time. So wait, hold on. In this briefing, I want to call it a part that I thought was... Wait, one last thing I want to say about Bubbaum's shrimp, which is they are missing something.
Starting point is 00:35:29 If the servers, when the servers give you the specials, they need to deliver it the way Bubba does when he talks about shrimp. They should say it that way. So they're really missing out. Anyway, they're leaving money on the table. Dan, what are you going to say? Well, in this briefing scene, Link proves her bona fides by being able to unblur the camera footage better than like the guy. giving the briefing. And then Travolta says,
Starting point is 00:35:51 can you use this tech to make us new identities? And she says, fuck yeah. This guy's lap. Like this tech, like a computer? Yes.
Starting point is 00:36:01 Yeah, certainly. This is, this movie is written and made entirely by people whose grandkids have to help them unlock their computers. Like,
Starting point is 00:36:11 it just reeks of that. But later on, later on, they have the technology. She turned the motion's moving off. They have the technology. Yeah, I can.
Starting point is 00:36:18 That's, you're looking at it. it in the wrong aspect ratio. Oh, that's why. And in John Travolta says to Link, can you help me watch Landman? How do I watch Landman? Is this where I get it? This is hitting too close to home. Literally this weekend, I have to call my mother-in-law so that I can walk
Starting point is 00:36:37 her through inputting our passwords for streaming services so that she can have them again. What time does Yellowstone start? No, it's streaming, Dad. You don't have to wait for it. You can just watch whatever you want. 8 o'clock is it on at 8 o'clock Do I Civo it? So we meet everyone in their new identities
Starting point is 00:36:55 And one of these new identities Is it on an email? Is Yellowstone in an email? One of these new identities is Kai Richie, which sounds too much like Guy Ritchie. Yes, I don't understand. It's Guy Ritchie's martial arts pseudonym. Right, right, right, right.
Starting point is 00:37:12 Travolta's name is Donovan Cage, and I wonder whether that was a shout out to Nick Cage because the face-off connection with Gershahn being there. Wait a minute. Donovan Cage is a real-life billionaire, Dan. Yeah, that's true. And the face-off connection with John Travolta. I said that with Chivalta and Gershom being there.
Starting point is 00:37:27 All right. And you just mentioned Gershont, I thought. But also, the Donovan Cage, I think, is actually a tip-off to the folk singer Donovan. Ellie was so excited to interrupt you. He didn't let you. I was like, I think that even if I didn't say Travolta, the fact that I've been talking about Travolta the whole time,
Starting point is 00:37:42 it could be assumed that I have clocked that Travolta was one-on- anything. I assume nothing. His face came off. I'm like Mason Goddard. He was a titular face off. His last name's Goddard? I forgot his last name.
Starting point is 00:37:54 Yeah, he's named after the rocket pioneer, Goddard, yeah. There's like scenes of them being cool in the casino, I guess. There's a lot of them walking around in suits, looking at casinos. And it is, this is one of those movies, which is presented as if people still think casinos are the coolest places you could possibly be. Like Rat Pack, Sinatra, casinos, Vegas, when I feel like America has moved on from that idea of what a casino is.
Starting point is 00:38:20 There's a lot of shots of the exterior of the casino or them walking through, and the music sounds very much like menu music from one of the persona games. Stewart, I have written down. The music sounds like the character select screen from Marvel versus Capcom. It's a slightly different,
Starting point is 00:38:40 slightly different takes on the music. And also, so they, they set up this casino they're going to as a playground for the rich and famous. It's super lux. But the one they're shooting at, it just looks like a nice Hilton. It just looks like a nice Hilton that costs like 300 bucks a night and is close to the airport. Like it doesn't look like a bad hotel, but there's like, this is where the rich and famous go to do their dirty deeds. It's just like this.
Starting point is 00:39:07 Yeah, this is just a hotel near the airport. Well, when they go to, when they go to Zade's private penthouse or whatever, yeah, it just looks like. a nice hotel room. Like it doesn't, yeah, it's not even, it's not even, it's not as nice as Kevin McAllister's hotel room in Home Alone too. No. I mean, the, the, the hotel room they give this whale billionaire, uh, gambler character is like smaller than the hotel room I got upgraded to at the planet Hollywood because I was only
Starting point is 00:39:34 staying one night. Uh, speaking of that room, it's the room right below the penthouse because they're trying to figure out how they could heist, possibly from below, but that doesn't work out. No. Meanwhile, Gershahn is being treated well by Salazar, her kidnapper. They're drinking champagne. They're bantering about how he's actually never personally killed anyone directly. But she has.
Starting point is 00:39:56 So who's the true monster here? We get a scene of Zade Black. Some real John Kramer Logic, Saw series. That's true. Zade Black. As opposed to Kramer from Seinfeld Lodge. Which would be like, I killed him, Jerry? Oh, I didn't know.
Starting point is 00:40:13 Kramer versus Kramer You want to play a game, Jerry? This game, Whoa! Why would you call it a game when it's very serious? There's no fun being had. Kramer, why are you leaving notes for the cops?
Starting point is 00:40:32 Just don't leave them little clues that they can figure out. Why are you waiting in the room the whole time pretending to be a dead body? Who's going to do that? I got to make him appreciate life, Jerry. Meanwhile. George, there's a bomb strap to your wrist.
Starting point is 00:40:53 You either got to shoot that guy first or dig the key out from his guts. Why do you do this to me? What was this? It's supposed to be the summer of George. He's literally killing independent George. Meanwhile. Dan you were saying.
Starting point is 00:41:11 Meanwhile, we get... No, I want to see... I want to see Jigfeld or Sinesaw or whatever, whatever it would be called or Kramer's Jigsaw. Yeah. Well, it got changed to Jigsaw at Ellis Island. At Ellis Island. Jerry, I can't believe you're telling me this isn't a great idea.
Starting point is 00:41:28 I don't just kill people. I put them through game scenarios. Everyone has fun. It's great. My Kramer and my Seinfeld are very close together. I have to figure out how to do them separately. In contrast to Salazar, Mr. Black is not afraid to get his hands dirty. He puts out a cigar in the eye of some
Starting point is 00:41:44 dude who's been skimming, then stabs him in the neck. So he's bad. Just to show what a bad guy he is. Yeah. Pretty bad dude. And he meets Travolta, aka. Highroller Jonathan, Donovan Cage, sorry. And they have a little good guy, bad guy sit down
Starting point is 00:42:00 and he gets, uh, Trolley gets an invite to one of his epic poker games that they do. And there's a weird conversation with Haas about how he's counting on Haas for protection. And during this like sort of back and forth between these characters who are brothers,
Starting point is 00:42:15 I swear they do not look at each other's eyes once. Like they seem to be avoiding looking at one another as actors. Now here's the thing also. John Travolta is 22 years older than Lucas Haas. So you think they have different parents or Lucas Haas' character was just the ultimate surprise. You know, the ultimate surprise baby. It's a good question.
Starting point is 00:42:36 Pretty bad surprise. I mean, my oldest brother is 13 years older than me, so. So add 9. years at almost a decade to that difference I mean I think this is all going to be covered in the prequel movie that they're going to put out of young mason played by the same actors yeah it's like boss baby but they're criminals yeah yeah well the the upshot of that conversation for the heist crime boss baby it would be called that link thank you is able to lift some prints from the glass that zade was drinking from so they can make a fake hand for the security yeah this is something I want to point out Link and Karas are constantly going undercover as employees at the hotel. No one at the hotel seems to recognize these are people they've never seen before
Starting point is 00:43:20 who are suddenly working there until the very end of the movie. But like Link will just put on a series of different wigs and show up pretending to... She's working at the bar, she's working at the front desk. It's like, does nobody recognize this is not a person who works here? These are the most busted-ass dry fake wigs. They're terrible wigs. And there's a very, like, dramatic scene later on
Starting point is 00:43:40 where she confronts Karras for, like betraying them. And she does the whole thing in this horrible wig and I'm like, the fucking queens on DragRae read her to fucking
Starting point is 00:43:50 fill for this shit. I wouldn't be surprised that this movie was partially bankrolled by Spirit Halloween. And they'd have to use our wigs. You have to use our $5 discount wigs. When she is undercover
Starting point is 00:44:01 as a bartender, she does pour a martini and then sits in the back because I wasn't paying attention to what was happening in the foreground. I was just watching the bartender. Of course. And she was like wiping the out of,
Starting point is 00:44:12 outside of the shaker. I'm like, well, bartenders wipe stuff. That's what bartenders do. They wipe things. That's why they always got a little towel on their shoulder or whatever. The funniest thing about it is that like
Starting point is 00:44:25 bartenders never did that until non-bartender Ted Danson started doing it. Yeah, because he just thought he's like, yeah, I should do something with my hands. So we put this on his shoulder.
Starting point is 00:44:36 And I know bartenders who do that still, but nobody ever did it before because like, why would you put a wet rag on her shirt? Meanwhile, the feds are also going to converge in this casino. They've heard that the gang has been spotted there. Salazar is sending cameras so we can watch the whole heist go down. I would love to see the FBI briefing where they're like, okay, this time, guys, I want to remind you,
Starting point is 00:45:02 those pools are filled with water, just normal H2O. It is not an acid of any kind. It is not a poison. You do not have to be afraid of the pool. You don't have to stand back. if they go through the pool and they get out the other side, it's not because they are wearing magic rings or other sort of artifacts that give them the ability to survive.
Starting point is 00:45:18 Oh, hold on, boss. I need to write this down, duh. The pool is okay. Oh, this is Kech Patel's FBI. I see it. The leader of the FBI. Cash Patel's FBI would be like, guys, I already said on Twitter that we caught Mason Gabbard. How you made me look like an idiot. Now I've got to go on Twitter and apologize to Kim Kardashian
Starting point is 00:45:37 that I was wrong about that. Yeah, the, the, leader of the FBI agents is Agent Richter, who is played by an actor who looks a lot like if Josh Charles was like starring in one of those testosterone ads that play on cable TV. I kept thinking it was Josh Charles and then I would look again and be like, oh wait, never mind, yeah. Link has a little bit of a squint and it's Sidney-Sweeney quality to her. Yes.
Starting point is 00:45:59 I did think it was her for almost one second. I'm like, oh, they got, oh, no, okay, never mind. Oh, no, she's like Russian. Okay. Yeah. So, and I couldn't, at first I was like, is she doing an Eastern European accent or is that her regular accent? I think it's just a regular accent. I think it's her regular accent that she's mostly lost.
Starting point is 00:46:18 Yeah, it's tough to say if she's trying to like be American or where, I mean, you know, no one, knowing it's any backstory, I'm sure they did it all in whatever the first movie was. But yeah, I, Link and where she is from is a mystery. And I'm going to, I'm going to say just because it has to be made a point made in this in the times we live in. you can have an accent and still be an American. You know, that's something that it doesn't just qualify you from being an American citizen, you know. Yeah. Wow, you're letting me talk and I'm not prepared because I was like, oh, they'll keep yapping on. I was going to see.
Starting point is 00:46:53 We can do more Seinfeld jigsaw stuff if you want to. Maybe you want to do a little Seinfeld Texas chainsaw massacre maybe. You thought it was okay today to 17-year-old Jerry. I was confirming what I had thought. that like this actor's name is Natali Yura, so she's probably that's her actual accent.
Starting point is 00:47:14 What? Yes, I think that is her actual accent. So anyway, yeah, Trollza doesn't want these cameras Why do they call him jigsaw? He doesn't do puzzles. He gives people puzzles, but they're not jigsaw puzzles.
Starting point is 00:47:29 Why do they call it a jigsaw? Do you dance while you cut things with it? Jerry, Jerry, you can just Google these things. Jerry, we've tied you to the wheel of this 67 Corvette, and it's about to fill with hot coffee. I chose to be tortured by the 67 Corvette because it's a classic car. Stylish, powerful. You got to love it.
Starting point is 00:47:51 We love it when rich guys tell you about cars. I took jigsaw out to the corner cafe to talk about how we do things. So how'd you get into torturing people? Well, you know, when I was young, I didn't even realize this was a job you could have. Yeah, he doesn't want these. Who, Jigsaw? I mean, the problem is like every time you actually give me space to talk, I'm like, okay, well, they're going to be on this for a while.
Starting point is 00:48:17 Let me look at something to... We're just keeping you on your toes, Dan. Uh-huh. All nine of them. Maybe just warn me when you decide. But you continue. I think we're at the epic poker game, right? Yeah, sorry.
Starting point is 00:48:31 They've called, Travolta has agreed to enter. this epic poker game and that's when he's going to find the safe. And she's been he's been flirting with what's her name? Bella is that it? No I'm back I'm back at it. Let me get to it. Okay so on this phone call there's these babysitting cameras that are coming over and also we learn that Zayda is Salazar's brother. This is the important piece of information that is in this phone call. Without it the movie doesn't make any sense.
Starting point is 00:48:58 Yeah and Bella is the casino director you mentioned is like everything's got to be perfect tonight for the game but they make a big deal about how her young nephew Ruben is there because, like, I guess the mom or whoever takes care of this person has an emergency, they have to go. And they may get like, it's going to, like, play into things. This never means
Starting point is 00:49:17 anything. It doesn't. It doesn't pay off for anything. Yeah, it really doesn't. There's one point where Rubin sees Travolta, like, go out of a door that he shouldn't have gone out and doesn't say anything about it. And that's the closest it comes to paying off. This has big, one of the producers, has a kid. Yeah. And one of the kids to be in the movie
Starting point is 00:49:33 energy, you know. And at some point, yeah, At some point, so they go, let's go get you. Kids not bad. The kid is actually, I think he's really funny in it. Like, he's just, because the thing is the kid is expressing the entire time, disinterest in everything that is going on. He does not care. He does not want to be there.
Starting point is 00:49:48 And I think he does a really good job pulling it off in a funny. And like all kids his age, he's obsessed with his Microsoft Surface. We all know these kids playing with their Microsoft surface. Oh, that's why the kids in the thing. Yeah. Oh, he's just there for the. A note about Bella, who I think is very good. and she's a real, like, age-appropriate babe.
Starting point is 00:50:07 I do kind of appreciate that the babes in this movie are the, like, age of the, you know, their kind of male counterparts. And Bella is great, but points toward this movie was made completely by old people. Whenever she has to, like, like, talk to her, like, the guy she's in a relationship with, she calls him dear.
Starting point is 00:50:30 He's like, she's like, let's get this epic poker game together, dear. And you know that Link is... A crackling sexual tension. You know that Link and Karris are young because they call each other Babe. Babe. Yeah, they do.
Starting point is 00:50:43 Yeah, they're like an annoying couple yelling at each other at a whole foods. Babe. Babe. So the team discovers... Do we have to get the organic kale? Do you want stuffed olives? Do you want stuffed olives?
Starting point is 00:50:55 Babe. Stuffed olives, babe. But you don't know is that he went there with Babe, the blue ox. Right. Because they're planning a surprise. prize party for Paul Bunyan. They're going to go meet a
Starting point is 00:51:07 Big the pig is also there. Yeah. Are you talking to me? No. What about me? The babe. John Goodman, you just played the babe in one movie. You're not actually Babe Ruth.
Starting point is 00:51:18 Where am I? Oh, John Goodman. Poor guy. He truly was a good man. The team discovers. As long as he doesn't turn into his alter ego, John Badman,
Starting point is 00:51:33 when he gets hit on the head. Just gets a beard It gets a pointy beard It's a John Badman Meat Dirtbox And then of course there's John Bad ham
Starting point is 00:51:48 Seriously, you don't want to eat his ham No No, it's spoiled rotten, yeah So the team just covers And of course Anyway, never mind There's a fly in the ointment There's a second safe
Starting point is 00:52:00 So they don't know where The thing they want is Their plans are in disembarker They have to hit both safes simultaneously for safety for some reason. But it'll take... The safe is in the name's word safety. I get it. It's interesting.
Starting point is 00:52:13 I get the idea of like you hit them both at the same time. So like if something goes wrong, if an alarm goes off or whatever, like you're... There's not... Maybe there's not going to be a second chance if you don't hit them simultaneously. I get it on that level. Later on, they act like, oh, we both have to put our hands on the thing at the exact same time. I'm like, why? Why?
Starting point is 00:52:34 That seems like They would shut the thing down. It's like the same guy. They'd be like, no, someone's trying to do it, you know. They're like, I guess the thing they left out is that Zade, the bad guy, has Mr. Fantastic Powers. So you can stretch his arms all the way across through multiple rooms. But it is funny that they're setting it up for suspense when it's totally meaningless to do it at the exact same time.
Starting point is 00:52:54 And there's also the ticking clock of a guy who knows the real Donovan Cage is going to be showing up. The famous Chas Antonelli. And they mentioned his name so many times before he shows up. Chaz Antonelli, our good friend. Oh, yeah, yeah, Chaz Antonelli. We see him arriving in a plane around this point. But right before that, what we see is Mason, Sean, and Anton walking down the hall to take five
Starting point is 00:53:20 by Dave Bruback after... Nothing cooler. That's the one recognizable music drop in this is Dave Bruback's Take Five. And it's because John Travolta says they were playing jazz tonight. They're playing jazz. They're just going to... They're way out of this dilemma.
Starting point is 00:53:35 We've talked about how large the crew is. And in charge. And after that opening action sequence, I feel like at all times, the crew greatly outnumbers the bad guy. There's almost never a time where there's fewer crew than there are bad teams. Which makes the threat feel less intense.
Starting point is 00:53:55 And they all have a job. Mason, he's the front man. He's going to con his way in, pretend to be a billionaire so we can get close to Zade. Swave, charming. No, he plays cards. Sean, he's the safe cracker. He's going to pretend that he's like Mason's bodyguard,
Starting point is 00:54:09 who is also playing poker for some reason, but he's going to crack the safe. Link, she's doing the tech stuff. Karis, he's, I'm not sure, helping out Link. Quavo, Anton, he's, I don't know. And Hector, he's like, he's around. Doing something else. I guess he's going to set up a distraction at some point.
Starting point is 00:54:29 I guess if they made it clear what everybody's doing because Anton just pretends to be another person at the hotel who then is going to take part in this fancy another guest who's going to take part of this fancy poker game but he doesn't do anything after that like he's just filling out the game you know I want to take this moment to give this movie some very faint praise in that like
Starting point is 00:54:50 at least no one was killed while making it that we know of so it's got one up on John Landis they're very simple complications There is actually an immemorial at the end, though. Oh, yeah. But I think that's where... I don't think he died in the line of making the movie,
Starting point is 00:55:05 but I'm sure, but you're right. There's an immemorial. Even though there are, like, kind of basic complications, the movie, you know, is, like, taking the time to be like, okay, you know, like, this is a heist movie. We've got to have complications arise. Like, oh, there's two safes.
Starting point is 00:55:19 Like, we got to deal with that now. Oh, there's a guy who knows what the guy that Travolta is pretending to be looks like on his way. We got it taking... Like, I appreciate that, they don't execute these all that well, but I appreciate that there's some... I'll agree with you, Dan.
Starting point is 00:55:34 I'll agree with you. They are trying to... I would call this a relaxed fit heist movie. I think that it's... Like, there are complications, but they get over them pretty easily. You're never really in any doubt that they're going to pull it off.
Starting point is 00:55:46 But you're right, that they are at least introducing things that could get in their way. Yeah, just like how I feel when I put on a nice pair of relaxed fit Levi's jeans, I always think I'll be able to get them off again. Now, I do want to point out Promote promo code flop at checkout?
Starting point is 00:56:01 Yep. Maybe it's right. Since we're talking about everybody's specialized roles and skills, I'd be remiss if I didn't talk about one of my favorite elements of the movie where during this high-stakes poker game, they make a big deal saying how they brought these master mixologists into the suite. Yes. These are the best bartenders in the world, they say.
Starting point is 00:56:26 And, of course, this mainly is to. to set up Lucas Haas' character where they're like, do you want anything? And he just orders a beer. There's not much of a joke there. They just keep asking him for beer. And then later on, yeah, go on. Oh, go ahead.
Starting point is 00:56:39 And then there's the moment where she's like, you should try something other than a beer? And he's like, what should I get? And she thinks for a second. And she goes, how about a Cuba Libre? A rum and Coke, which is the funniest. I guess you know, I'm like, there's a very specific bartending thing
Starting point is 00:56:56 that I'm, like, I was like, I was scoffing at. I'm like, she's making fun. We got this great cocktail guy here. Order a cocktail. And he's like, okay, what do you suggest? A Cuba Libre? I'm like, it's a fucking Roman coat.
Starting point is 00:57:07 Did the writer just not know that? They're just like, oh, it's a fancy sounding name. I think that's probably what happened, yeah. Oh, my God. That's so funny. When obviously that guy who's drinking, just give him an old fashion. That's what guys. That's what they always want.
Starting point is 00:57:22 Stu, I like that. Maybe it's smoked old fashion because that's like, you know, what old guys like. Give him some. Something with pickle juice in it, if you're a mixologist. You know, do something out of the ordinary. Give him a dirty gertie. Lucas House looks like he'd enjoy some pickles. Sure.
Starting point is 00:57:35 But for Stewart, this is for you what the guy, with the paleontologist in Jurassic World saying mosesores or dinosaurs is for me. Where you're like, come on, what are you doing? Yeah, because my career as a bar owner and bartender is similar to your career as a paleontologist. Very much so. Very much so. So we're at this epic poker game, which is, you know, God knows, there's nothing more thrilling than watching scripted card playing.
Starting point is 00:58:02 God, and they don't show you anyone's cards. So you can't even get invested in it. Like, there's a way to do a suspenseful scene where you see someone's hand and you see if they're bluffing or not. And they just like, they don't show you any cards ever. There's one moment where you see that someone is like palmed an ace. But that's the only time. Zade Black.
Starting point is 00:58:21 Zade Black. The bad guy. It's a whole game. Yeah. But it is a, I could not tell if we were supposed to be watching a game or just a montage of different games. Like they're not trying to, they're not trying to create suspense. I mean, maybe they thought they were. But you're just, it's just a serious people saying, I raise, I call.
Starting point is 00:58:37 I raise, I call. And I was like, this, I, there's not, there's no way to keep track what's going on. It doesn't matter. Who cares? It's a waste of time. But during the scene, we do learn that Bella used to be with Salazar, perhaps the root of this feud between brothers. Link drops by pretending to be Kage's executive assistant, sorry
Starting point is 00:58:57 And this is I guess To drop off the second fake A glove Fake fingerprint She's wearing, I think it's the same It might be the same wig that Natalie Portman is wearing When she is a stripper in the movie Closer Oh yeah
Starting point is 00:59:10 They gotta make their move Caz is on the way Stole it from a planet Hollywood Using her read skills The Wheel Hise was busting it out of the planet Hollywood Yeah We're going to steal the most famous movie prop of all time. No, not Rosebud the sled.
Starting point is 00:59:26 Natalie Portman stripper wig. Which fucking plan to Hollywood is Rosebud? I mean, Rosebud, not a joke, is at the Academy Museum. Oh, is it? In Los Angeles, because it's owned by Steven Spielberg. And so he lent it to, it's a rosebud that was made as a duplicate for the movie in case they needed to burn it another time and they did not need to. So it's not the one from the, it's not screen-used.
Starting point is 00:59:49 or prop, but is screen accurate. Anyway, that's a little bit of actual clarification there. But I imagine them just sending the real John Travolta into Planet Hollywood and being like, yeah, can I take a look at that? And he puts it on his head and then runs away. Yeah, well, some music like,
Starting point is 01:00:02 do, do, do, do, do, to do, plays in the backer. It's basically every heist from the movie The Master of Disguise. Also really is the Marvel versus Capcom. Oh, I love that music. That would be the funny, like, like unbearable weight of massive talent version of this movie is them having
Starting point is 01:00:21 the actual John Travolta having to heist props from the last planet Hollywood so that they can use in this movie. He remembers that he stole a diamond when he was making Stayin Alive and he hid it inside of his costume and now they're... The last planet Hollywood
Starting point is 01:00:38 is being sold and he's got to get in there and get it before they demolish the place. I don't know. Honestly, this is good. That should be a movie. And you call it stealing Hollywood or something like that. Yes. Yeah, yeah. Planet Heistee Wood? Yeah, Planet Heistee Wood is good.
Starting point is 01:00:56 Let's go to lunch. Chaz is coming, so they got to make their move. And this is very funny to me that their distraction so they can make a move is that Hector outside sets off a bunch of fireworks. And all of these hardened, high-rolling gamblers are like, hey, there's fireworks in the window. They leave the game and Bella says, Ruben, Ruben, look fireworks. And the kid is like, wah. Like, doesn't care. They don't care.
Starting point is 01:01:21 But it is, and Anton is like, wow, fireworks, this is an amazing place. It is like if fireworks are, it's like when you take a three-year-old out to see a garbage truck come by. Oh, cool. What? Jordan, as someone who has lived that life, yes, you're exactly right. That is exactly what it's like. I mean, there's also, the other distractions. that happens is that Link makes a lot of the slot machines
Starting point is 01:01:45 pay off downstairs. But it's barely a distraction. Sorry, what are you going to say? I'm just saying Salazar is like, it's like, you know, after sticking my lit cigar into a man's eye and then stabbing him in the throat, it's nice to know I can still be entertained by the innocence of fireworks.
Starting point is 01:02:02 Oh, that was a big one. Yay. Boom, boom. Okay, now I'm getting a little bored of them. Oh, now it's the finale. Oh, this is good. Now let's all watch Bluey. Oh, they're syncing it up to a pop song now.
Starting point is 01:02:15 Oh, that's good. That one looks a little bit like a heart, but it's kind of squished a little bit. So the guy... They are so enamored of the fireworks. It's really funny. They go off and look for their... The safes. Haas is looking in the bedroom.
Starting point is 01:02:34 Safe-up. The plural is Safe eye. I'm not sure where Travolta is looking, but they both find these safes. and they put their palms in the sensors at the same time, they unlock it. Salazar is watching this and Kibbets saying the entire time, come on, idiot, open, find the lever, idiot, come on. Oh, stupid. And it's like, come on, come on, guy.
Starting point is 01:02:53 They can't seem to find the hard drive that they're looking for. Meanwhile, Hector is apprehended in the men's room for his fireworks ploy. Presumably for entertaining everyone so well. They don't want to give him a job, you know. Or kidnapping you and making you the lead fireworks guy. Haas finds something interesting. Your crime is being a sorcerer for making the lights and fire
Starting point is 01:03:15 appear in the sky. Where's your dragons? Rain from the sky. How does this man make flame without Flint or Tinder? Like a puzzle box. I did use a lighter. Oh, never mind then. A puzzle box. He finds a puzzle box with a little USB drive.
Starting point is 01:03:31 Just a centipite comes out. I have so much beauty to show you, pain to teach you. It's got a little USB drive they take it. By the way, I think Lucas Oz gives me the vibe of a guy who would open up the Hellracer box. Oh, 100%. Totally. 100%.
Starting point is 01:03:46 And they've rigged it, so Chaz gets stuck in the elevator. So that pressures off for the moment. Few. And as Bella and Zaid go to deal with that, the others check in with Link to deliver the hard drive. And there's like all this lines about like, oh, this belongs to Isabel Farrow. And I guess the crypto drive They're actually after the first movie Because Troult is like
Starting point is 01:04:11 I think Bella is Isabel Farrow She left Salazar so it tracks And I'm like I guess man I don't really understand what's going on here And they do talk a lot about like What happened in Seattle Like oh this is just like I mean I guess that's where the first movie takes place
Starting point is 01:04:28 And it's really exciting to the point where everybody wants to remember it constantly Right You can see a fish flying through the air Yeah It's really cool I've been there, I've seen it. I mean, I can throw a fish in the air if I want to get home for free.
Starting point is 01:04:40 Not the way they do it. Not the way they do it. Shots fired. Dan, Seattle, you know, Seattle is where Louisiana trained, okay? They do it the best there, yeah. Boomerang fish master.
Starting point is 01:04:51 Yeah. That sounds like a Hong Kong movie. That sounds like a Shaw Brothers movie from 1973, boomerang fish master. But Travolta, like, oh. When the crime boss came for the, for the Hong Kong fish market,
Starting point is 01:05:05 the boomerang fishmaster wasn't going to let it happen. Travolta intuits that Salazar is actually after the dirt box. That sounds like, wait a minute. I mean, it's not a Shaw Brothers thing. That's a good Sam O'Hung role. That's a great role for Sam O'Hung. It has that boomerang fishmaster saving a good fish market. You got action.
Starting point is 01:05:21 You got class. Fish. Maybe a ghost shows up at the end. Who knows? Yeah. So they figure that there's something else that they haven't found yet that they need to find, essentially. Meanwhile,
Starting point is 01:05:33 Gershahn almost escapes. there's more like... She only uses blades. Well, we learn about Grishana says she kills with a knife. He's like that she never... I guess she uses it, tries it again later, but he's like, what's it like? Oh, it's physics, isn't it?
Starting point is 01:05:46 The distance from you to the knife, the speed you can move at. And then she breaks a mirror and uses a blade, uses a shard from it. And I'm like, I love that that this character is apparently into hands-on wetwork, like close-up kills, yeah. Well, and there's more talk of like, oh, what's it like to kill? And she says, like, Well, if you're killing a bad person, someone you know is bad,
Starting point is 01:06:08 it's like the world's greatest orgasm, which I'm like, okay, this is one of our heroes, I guess. Yeah. Meanwhile, Hector's tied up downstairs. Zaid comes in. It looks like he's going to repeat the cigar routine. And honestly, in this scene, Hector does some of the best acting in the movie, trying to convince him that he's just a drunk guy who's that awesome fireworks.
Starting point is 01:06:28 A truck full of fireworks. The feds arrive, and there's some notice. bad green screen behind the link at one point. Did you see that? It looks like a Zoom background fading out where she's like supposed to be in this hotel room but... I didn't remember that part, but... She like fades into the background.
Starting point is 01:06:48 I do love there was a shot while they were preparing for their heist and they're all staying in this little hotel room and they're all like scrunched up on the floor and it is really funny that this whole team stays in the guy who's undercovers hotel room. They have cameras and shit. They would know that
Starting point is 01:07:04 like 10 people are. We're staying there. Like if room service shows up, they find pillows, blankets all over the floors and couches. And they all are just in their clothes
Starting point is 01:07:12 covered up with blankies. Like no one... Except for Mason, who has pajamas in a robe. Silk pajamas, yeah. It's funny. Everyone else just sleeps in their clothes
Starting point is 01:07:21 but judgment to change into silk pajamas. We've got to play the role of whoever that billionaire is. Look, I bought $40,000 pajamas. So I would feel like a billionaire.
Starting point is 01:07:33 So I'm never breaking character. I can see that just being how John Travolta shows up to a set. You know? Yeah. And they're like, fine, just shoot him. He's like, who's the, why am I forgetting his name?
Starting point is 01:07:43 The artist, Julian Schnabel, who just wears pajamas everywhere and just shows up at fancy events in pajamas and looks ridiculous, yeah. You guys know what I'm talking about, right? No. I mean, I vaguely know who. Director of Bosquian?
Starting point is 01:07:56 Yeah, yeah. Link saves. Inventor of the door schnob, which is like a doorknob, which is like a doorknob, a little sillier. Link. saves Hector from being blinded.
Starting point is 01:08:07 It goes out when you try and turn it. It gets me every time. Every time I don't expect it. Link saves Hector. And then my big mouth, Billy Bass, starts singing at me from the wall, and I'm like, whoa, hold on. I thought you were just a fish.
Starting point is 01:08:19 My house is too funny. It's cracking me up. Well, I'll just go open up this can of peanuts I have over here. I should have known when I looked at the listing and it said, three-bedroom, silly. This cactus is it. just got water it a little bit of this catch. Not too much.
Starting point is 01:08:37 It's a cactus. Oh, it's dancing. It's a dancing cactus. Now to drink out of this ordinary Pepsi can. Don't tan on it. Don't tan on it. Don't tan on that. I feel so bad for the realtor that has that fucking listing.
Starting point is 01:08:56 He's like, I'm at the office. They're like, you can take those things out of the house. No, she's showing people through. They're like, we'll get rid of those. No, no. They come with the house. It's stipulated. If you buy it, you have to eat them.
Starting point is 01:09:08 They're like, oh, wow, I'm tired from walking around this house. Let me just sit in this chair. No, no, no, no, no. There's a whoopeecus in there. The previous are all kind of woodpegions. Regarded these as their children, so they're stipulated in the will. Is it okay if I just got to run off and use the bathroom? No, no, there's saran wrap across all the seats.
Starting point is 01:09:26 What a funny house. This house sounds pretty funny. Yeah. Today on Million Dollar Prank House, Our agents are going to see if they can sell the million-dollar prank house. Couldn't do it. We couldn't sell the million-dollar prank house. All right, find out next episode if we can finally unload this first house.
Starting point is 01:09:44 I mean, honestly, we don't want to sell it. The show would be over if we finally... We just have the one prank house. We have to make 40 episodes a year of this for HGTV. It reminds me of when I was a kid, there was like a community event space that the town would hold parties and things in. And we used to go to them sometimes. And in the men's bathroom, there was a light switch
Starting point is 01:10:07 with a plate around it of a tennis player with his pants down so that the light switch was his penis. And as a kid, I was like, what is this? Why would you put this somewhere? In a million-dollar prank house, all the light switches have those lights. All that's, all dicks. All dicks.
Starting point is 01:10:23 Young Elliot. Why would you do that? It doesn't make any sense. And I'd be like, does the ladies room have the lady version? of this? Because what would it be? I don't understand. Let me show you what to be.
Starting point is 01:10:33 It's a giant clitoris. Sebastian Madaskolko happened to be in that bathroom and he heard you say, why would you do this? It's like, there's something there. There's something here. I just got to say it a lot
Starting point is 01:10:43 funnier. Now I'm imagining Jig Sebastian, which is Sebastian Madaskolko has jigsaw. Why would you let me trap you? Why would you let me do this?
Starting point is 01:10:54 Why would you do that? There's to be more marbles in your mouth. You're right. You're speaking a little too smoothly. Guys, I'd prefer if you did not make fun of my wife's favorite stand-up comedian, please. She listens to this podcast, they would make her very upset. It would be Sebastian Manuscal saw. That would be his name.
Starting point is 01:11:13 Yeah, yeah. Anyway, I was trying to tell you about how Hector got saved. Yeah, he walked into that funny house. All the guys cracked up too much and he was able to get away. The feds were like, we can't go in there. It's impossible. We don't have jurisdiction over Funny House. And around this point, Link hears a phone buzzing.
Starting point is 01:11:33 She's like, I didn't know my husband had another burner. And she picks it up and it's Salazar saying, don't let your little girlfriend upload the dirt box. Uh-oh. Link, you've been sleeping with the enemy. Yeah. You're sleeping with Salazar? What a twist.
Starting point is 01:11:48 I mean, I wouldn't put it past him. I mean, Salazar can get it. Yeah? Salazar's looking at. Salazar did the classic thing in movies of. The phone picks up and you don't wait for the other person to say, Hello, you just immediately say the incriminating. I got some incriminating evidence on load.
Starting point is 01:12:03 And Link accuses him. What's his name again? Carus. Carus. Right when he comes back, which to me seems like a bad idea. Wait till like there's backup in the room, girl. Like, why are you just like, you know? And again, she's wearing this terrible wig, which I think probably makes her feel like
Starting point is 01:12:19 she has immunity because she's somebody else. That's true. And she's distraught. You know, she really loved him. Dan, here's how you remember his name is Caros. Carus. There's Anton and Carus, and that is a reference to
Starting point is 01:12:31 Anton Caris, who played the Zither in the Third Man soundtrack. Actually, that's true. Oh, that's a helpful mnemonic. That's a good mnemonic for remembering the character names
Starting point is 01:12:40 in the movies, Cash Out, and High Rollers. Well, in that case, if you're watching Highrollers and the third man, you have an interesting night ahead of you. So Caris did this because Oh, wow.
Starting point is 01:12:54 He won revenge on Mason for making him look like a fool, in the first movie and also Salazar's threatening his family but Link has none of it She tosses them out Yeah They should have led with the family
Starting point is 01:13:07 Travolta has heard all this on his Like earpiece He's sympathetic That guy's one of the world's nicest super criminals I'll tell you Not since the mercenaries of Jurassic World Rebirth Have we seen people who live in a moral gray zone But are just sweetie pies
Starting point is 01:13:21 Yeah Bella shows up with security insisting that Trolla Trolla So wait, I want to say, I want to say this. It sounded like you said, Shakira, like Shakira, is there security? And also, troll-tta, like, John Travolta is now a troll.
Starting point is 01:13:36 And I want to see that movie. I want to see the movie. I want to see the movie, Trollta. And Shakira is the security guard. I want to see it, yeah. But it's like big crazy hairs instead, a beard, right? Yeah, yeah, he has a big crazy beard that comes out like that. But he's bald on the top.
Starting point is 01:13:51 Yeah. Well, unfortunately. And they call him John Tritrolta. We're, uh... If only we had a troll's actually. expert in the house, but I guess we don't, so let's move on. Unfortunately. Yeah, if I briefly worked for DreamWorks' Trolls Topia, the streaming companion piece to the trolls films.
Starting point is 01:14:09 So what do you think of Trol... How did it expand the world? Sorry. I was going to say, do you think Trollta would have been a great addition to the trolls' canon? Listen, I pitched it. I pitched it. Like, he can dance. If he wants to.
Starting point is 01:14:24 If he wants to. Bella shows up with security saying Donovan Donovan You simply must come See your buddy Chaz And it seems like the jig is up
Starting point is 01:14:36 But he keeps sticking to his story She goes Chaz isn't His limp is getting worse He goes Chaz never had a limp He doesn't fall into that trap Yeah On his earpiece
Starting point is 01:14:47 He hears from length That there's a fancy hidden compartment Inside a giant Ruby Like the one Bella's wearing On her necklace Or giant costume jewelry That you can also get it Spirit Halloween
Starting point is 01:14:59 I mean that promo code high rollers That ruby is so enormous Yeah It's either it's either fake Or it costs a hundred million dollars Yeah it's not a fake or a key to a lock In Resident Evil Or it's some kind of
Starting point is 01:15:15 Yeah it's some kind of gem from another dimension That imbues the wearer With the power of the gods You know it's a enormous It's a he-man-sized ruby We get a few hilarious seconds of Travolta being like, Chaz, buddy, you lost weight.
Starting point is 01:15:31 It's like trying to like bullshit his way through this. It is so funny, the idea that he is like, you know what? I'm just going to go for it. I'm just going to pretend I go to. That's jazz. And the way he gets out of the situation is so hilariously relaxed fit. Dan, how does he get out of this situation? The lights go out.
Starting point is 01:15:48 I assume Link cut the lights and he just grabs the necklace. runs away and it looks away because the necklace of course is on a breakaway chain you know but it is the goofy and then no one chases him they just stand around going that wasn't Donovan what is this 70 year old man
Starting point is 01:16:05 toddling through this hotel lobby. This does lead directly into gunplay but it's from the fed that's not even them chasing. I would say this is the this is the silliest getting away but we did see them escape the feds by jumping in a pool so yeah
Starting point is 01:16:19 uh The police are called in. Hector gets rescued. Travolta and Link slip off dressed as chefs. They have apparently punched out some chefs and undressed them and taken their clothes or something. This does have one moment of someone on the kitchen staff recognizing them and like calling it in. It's the first time that that is even remotely realistic because, yeah, they've been 10 different hotel employees during this movie. And this is the one time where someone's like, I guess I've never seen these people.
Starting point is 01:16:49 Are we on like a fucking undercover boss or something? because that wig is so bad. Terrible wig. Is that Bella pretending that she works here? It makes me... So over Christmas, I was in a hotel in Hawaii. I know, I live a great life. And it makes me wonder
Starting point is 01:17:04 if I had just taken someone's uniform and walked around the hotel pretending I worked there, would anyone have noticed? Would they've called me out? Or they just assumed I worked there? That is the plot of White Lotus season four, Elliot. Whoa. Sounds sexy.
Starting point is 01:17:20 They're trying... They're trying to escape through their, I guess their escape. No, I swear, I'm a guest here. I don't really work here. Sure, sure. You're working in the boiler room dungeon now. No, no. Their escape involves going under like the stage of the theater in the casino, but they're stopped.
Starting point is 01:17:37 Theater is putting it. Yeah, it's more like a convention hall. It's like an auditorium at best. Yeah. Yeah, they're stopped by Zaid, who is upset, but not surprised to learn that his brother is behind everything that's going on. and he's going to shoot Travolta, but Karas shows up to redeem himself and hits him with a fire extinguisher.
Starting point is 01:17:57 Not how they're supposed to be used. He gets stabbed for his troubles, and it looks like he's, that Zade is going to take the upper hand. But then Bella shows up and shoots him saying that he stole something from her, and she's going to get it back. And the team escapes through a tunnel.
Starting point is 01:18:14 And even though Karas got stabbed in the leg, like in the opening of 28 years later, he doesn't die immediately. No, it didn't hit the art. And he's actually pretty good at running from that point out. Yeah, yeah. They come out from this long, you know, like duct work and tunnel thing to Zade's shrimp processing plants. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 01:18:34 Which is right next to the scene out. Yeah. There's a big. It's implied that it is under the hotel, which is strange. Yeah. There's a big shoot out here that's shot really strangely, including some like first-person shooter things where you just see like an arm and a gun. and I'm like, was this because they didn't get the actors back? They're doing pickups later on.
Starting point is 01:18:53 I'm assuming there were some drone shots, too. There's a lot of drones. A lot of drone shots zooming around with drones. A lot of drone shots zooming around. There's one scene where the camera's zooming around while it's following them. And then I missed a cut the first time I watched it. And so I thought they were running into a room where they were also running in from the other side of the room. And I was like, what is going on in this movie?
Starting point is 01:19:10 The temporal pincher movement. But what's that movie? Is it contact the movie where someone runs up a flight of stairs to a movie? mirror and then it turns out we were looking at the reflection the whole time. Yes, contact. Yeah. It's amazing. That's a great show. Just outside the shrimp factory, they get stopped by Salazar
Starting point is 01:19:28 and some goons who have Gina Gershon. They give him the dirt box and Salazar seems like he's going to go back on the exchange and he calls back to how he's never killed anyone and he recently learned that from Gina Gershan
Starting point is 01:19:45 that it can be orgasmic if it's someone bad, but he's a cynical man. who thinks that everyone's bad. So you can shoot anybody. Finally, I will be multi-orgasmic because the period it takes me to reachieve erection is too long for me to do it in the normal way.
Starting point is 01:20:03 Finally, I can be like sting. It's called the Rattroaractuary period. My hero sting. My hero, I can achieve a sting-gasm by not touching my weenis. This has to be like, I'm on a field of gold. This scene has another example of that thing.
Starting point is 01:20:18 where someone gets a cliche kind of wrong, like can't help a girl for trying. I think the bad guy says something along the lines of like let he who is without sin cast the first stone, but he's like, I'm not a Bible man. I think when he was probably should have said was I'm not a religious man, but he says, I'm not a Bible man.
Starting point is 01:20:39 Well, no, he was, because he was referring to Bible Man, the character Willie Ames played in the series. Right, right, yes. The director of VHS superhero from the 90s. He's documentary salesman. about a Bible sellers. He's not saying I'm not one of them. I'm not one of those Bible men who live a life of misery.
Starting point is 01:20:56 You know, a real, a real look at, probing look at American capitalism at its most naked. To sell these Bibles, you have to ABC. Always be Christen. Is that what God told Jesus before he sent him down? ABC, always be Christen. What if I just want to take a break from Christen? Like if I'm tired of healing lepers, no.
Starting point is 01:21:20 A, B, C, you want to get, look, first prize. First prize is the car. Second prize that is steak nights. Coffee is for Christers. You get crucified. Also, think to yourself, what would you do? Yeah. Term, Glenn, Gary, Glenn Christ.
Starting point is 01:21:34 Oh, the saddest one is the old man Christ who's like, come on, I just get another couple conversions. Help me out here. Oh, you tried to convert the Nyborg? Oh, yeah. They just like talking to Christ. They don't want to, they don't actually convert. There's a good, that's a good, that's a good, if we ever write for Mr.
Starting point is 01:21:55 Show, Glenn Gary, Glenn Christ is a good sketch. The apostles are all like the characters from Glenn Gary. I think that's now the time for Mr. Show to come back, right? Bob Odenkirk's not busy. He can do another season of Mr. Show. It's like, wow, Odenkirk keeps pitching these sketches where he's like super ripped and beating dudes up, beating up Eastern European stuntmen. Makes me laugh.
Starting point is 01:22:18 Salazar sets up a conundrum for Chavolta. He's like, you can take? I want to do one. Wait, one more extra from Langerie. Jesus is giving his talk to the apostles and he goes, look to the, consider the lilies. Do they weave or spin? No, that's why I fired their ass.
Starting point is 01:22:35 Get to work, everybody. Worth it. Okay. You're all fisher of men, so hook me some big fucking fish. Get me a whale out there. Salazar's like you can take Gina Gershahn I mean the character's name whatever
Starting point is 01:22:48 or you can take you can't take Gina Gershan out of the movie but you can't take the movie I'm going to shoot Lucas Haas so who do you pick your wife or your brother instead Lucas Haas does a look on his face
Starting point is 01:22:59 where he's like no I can go I'm not super integral to this I guess you don't have to unlock both safes at once I never really redeemed myself after that Seattle thing well we all know
Starting point is 01:23:12 what happened in Seattle. Oh, boy. That was more adventure that we all remember. Talk about sleepless. Yeah. Of course. Travolta cuts through this Gordian nut by offering himself up instead. But the non-killer drug lord hesitates just long enough.
Starting point is 01:23:29 This is so funny. This goes on for way longer than it needs to. Where he's going, kill me, man. Fucking do it. Fucking kill me. And so I was like, hey, ha, ha, I will. I will. I'm going to do you.
Starting point is 01:23:40 That thing you said, I'm going to do it. I'm edging myself. It's called Gooney. Yeah. I'm live streaming to my gooner killer friends that I'm going to kill you and I haven't done it yet. He delays just long enough for Gershon to kick the gun out of his hand and then the feds run in. I don't know what they're fucking waiting for if they were close enough to do this. But it turns out...
Starting point is 01:24:05 Even Malta says took it long enough. They're all getting hot and heavy watching the guy almost get blasted. Turns out the best. The big non-twist is that it seemed that we didn't see. A flashback, Travolta had tipped off the feds earlier in exchange for a deal. A deal which gets everyone immunity, even though they apparently were all of the FBI's most wanted lists in return for Salazar. And the private jet anywhere they want to go. It's also like, what happened in Seattle that they are on the FBI's most wanted list?
Starting point is 01:24:38 Like that dirt box, man. Osama bin Laden was on the FBI's most wanted list. wanted list at one point. It's got dirt on everyone. If this point, if they're on the FBI's most wanted list, it's because they're probably from Somalia or from, you know, or another country. But still, that's political commentary right there.
Starting point is 01:24:53 The FBI has taken its eye off the ball. Oh, wow. Yeah. Well, I mean... Elliot got them finally. Yeah, finally. True, if not particularly amusing. It's not funny at all.
Starting point is 01:25:04 Just, Dan, we don't... Dan, we don't... I feel like the flop house isn't really about jokes. It's about illuminating and enlightened people. Right, yes. You're activating people. Speaking truth to power. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:25:14 In between all the stinkers, sometimes we give you some thinkers. Yeah. I would say that... It would be very funny if it turned out that Cash Patel listens to this and is like, hey, I like your podcast, so you're talking about me. No, I mean, Stuart, isn't that where you guys did get your slogan,
Starting point is 01:25:27 two in the think, one in the stink? Yeah. I was going to be on our t-shirt and then all those t-shirts got burned. Yeah, the T-shirt company said they refused, yeah. I was going to say that no one goes to podcast for that. but unfortunately people went to the wrong podcast for this sort of thing and then it was part of the problem
Starting point is 01:25:45 so... You're right. You're right. I guess... A lot of these podcasts complaining about ladies in Star Wars makes me want to overthrow the government. I mean, imagine,
Starting point is 01:25:53 this reminds me of something that friend of the podcast, Zubin Prang, once said to me where he goes, imagine how much money I could make if I just sold out and became the right-wing Persian guy
Starting point is 01:26:03 who wants to bomb Iran. Imagine how much money I could be making right now if I had no principles and I could be that guy. And just think about, guys, we can be making so much money now if we just became evil.
Starting point is 01:26:13 I mean, he would be great at it. I mean, I think we should probably all just start complaining about the M.C.U. Yeah. Wait, is that what they call it? It is, yeah, the like right-wing YouTube guys were mad about Captain Marvel. 18 years ago, if we had started a YouTube channel
Starting point is 01:26:28 being shitheads, we would be, we'd have like vacation homes now. Oh, we'd be so rich. It'd be miserable. And what I'm... And we'd go to hell. It would fear our fans. And certainly what I'm good at is like,
Starting point is 01:26:39 saying things I don't believe going against my principles. Like, I'm really comfortable with that. Yeah, Dan, I think Dan, you would have a hard time keeping that K-fabe for some of the years. Listen, Kathleen Kennedy intentionally made bad Star Wars movies so little boys would feel bad. Not even as a joke. Just like every comic book person is intentionally making
Starting point is 01:26:59 bad issues of the comics they make because they hate the characters and want to destroy them. I've heard that one. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah. I've heard that one. I've been told, I've been called that. And guys, we're all parodying bad takes. from internet people, just so you don't think we're actually,
Starting point is 01:27:12 we don't actually, we're being... Yes, if the FBI is listening. We have... I love the MCU. I have literally one more bullet point in my notes.
Starting point is 01:27:23 Oh, so we got more time to goof. Also, it turns out that the first thumb drive... You guys want to be like fake conservatives for a little bit more? I got to tell you, even pretending to be a fake...
Starting point is 01:27:34 It used to be... I used to find it very funny to be a fake conservative, but now it's like, yeah, it's fun to be a fake, not until the Nazis are in charge. And then it's like, this is gross now, you know. That being said, the accent, still
Starting point is 01:27:45 hilarious. Oh, find a fail. Still hilarious. Yeah. Grabbing me sign of that thing. You know, that's still funny. What's this bullet one we've been hearing so much about, Dan? It turns out that the first thumb drive that they found,
Starting point is 01:27:59 the one that's like, this is, the one that are like, fuck this thumb drive. Uh-uh. Sean has it. It's the one with the 600 million in crypto in it. Whoa. Front Squad wins again.
Starting point is 01:28:11 Perfect turns out for crime guys. And they walk away and they're like, we did it now. And it's like, wait, so, I mean, yeah, that was a crime. You stole that. I don't know. But there's 600 million and there's like six of them, right? If they're only like five of them,
Starting point is 01:28:27 they'd each get more money. So that's going to be the third movie, which is that they're hunting each other down. Like a tauntine thing. Yeah, exactly. A taunton thing? A taunton thing. They're cutting open each other
Starting point is 01:28:38 and stuff in themselves. stay warm. Tom, Tom thing, a little French guy who goes on adventures. I guess he's Belgian, right? Yeah, he's Belgian. He's not French, yeah. A boring comic book that smart parents
Starting point is 01:28:49 get for their kids. I mean, to be honest, when I was a kid, I was always like, this is not exciting to me, but it's probably the kind of thing that Dan would like. Tintin? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:58 I enjoy that sort of a light adventure. And the clean line style. Clean line style. That's true. The clean line style. Yeah. When I was a kid, I would read it, and I'm like,
Starting point is 01:29:07 when's Tintin gonna lose a hand? Eventually, the sea captain's going to get killed, right? And the Tintin's going to get revenge? When is that going to happen? I actually didn't read them as a kid, though. As a kid, I was reading Tales from the Crypt Comics. At some point, at some point, Snowy's going to snap and just start ripping out throats, right? At what point do they find Tintin dead and Snowy has eaten half of the corpse?
Starting point is 01:29:33 Maybe the answer will found him. When Tintin goes into the public domain, all this stuff will happen. They'll make a hard Tintin. Eli Roth's Tintin dead. And our final judgments. Final judgments. This is a good bad movie, a bad, bad movie, or a movie kind of like. I'm going to say, you know, watching it alone, we've run into this problem before, we've talked about it.
Starting point is 01:29:53 Maybe not the most delightful way that one could watch this movie. No. Like, it's still a bit of a slog watching it, you know, during the day as a man alone in a house. Why? My grandkids calling me. But I do think that... The problem is also, Dan, you live in such a silly house that you're distracted while the talking objects.
Starting point is 01:30:15 Right, right, right, right. But I do think that... Can you imagine Peewee Pee-E Herman must have had so much trouble just watching regular TV because his furniture is constantly talking to him? There must be times to be like, just shut up. I just want to watch the show. Guys, that's trying to finish the wire.
Starting point is 01:30:32 I do think that... That's a secret word. Why? Pee-wee, what are you watching? Guys. Terry. That was a good, good Terry.
Starting point is 01:30:42 Thank you. No, I think if you got a group of friends together. Oh, but I was doing Terry Gard. Did it sound like her? Yeah. I think if you got a group of friends together, this would actually be a pretty fun, bad movie to watch.
Starting point is 01:30:52 Because there's some bad movies where it's like, it's bad because everything is wrong. And there are other ones where, like, the fun of it is like, okay, like I can see the big blockbuster movie you're trying to be, but the broken Xerox machine you made it on
Starting point is 01:31:06 makes it funny. Yeah. It's like the uncanny valley movies where you're like, it's just, it's close enough that you're like, this is kind of a movie, right? Yeah. I'm going to go good bad. A little marginal, but good bad. I'm going to agree with you.
Starting point is 01:31:20 I enjoyed watching it alone in my apartment where I changed, put the motion smoothing on my TV. It's just what movies meant to be seen. Yeah, smoother, yeah. While there was like a thumbnail of Landman in the corner. And, yeah, I. I think it's a fun, good, bad movie, and it would be fun, it would be a fun bad movie night movie to watch as well. I agree.
Starting point is 01:31:46 I think it is not the most fun by yourself, but it would be a fun movie to what. It somehow manages to combine the fun of watching famous people in something that they should not, that they should be above being in, and the fun of watching a movie that feels like it was made by random people in the middle of nowhere who don't fully know what they're doing.
Starting point is 01:32:04 So, yeah, I would call it a good, bad movie as well. What about you, Jordan? Yeah, I'll, I'll, I'll, I think, No, not at all. I'm going to go with the flow and say, yes, I agree with all these points. Yeah, a little bit of a weird one to just turn on by yourself. But I think for bad movie night purposes, this is a fun choice. And it did get me curious about, like, the Travolta slop.
Starting point is 01:32:24 Like, I am very familiar with the cage slop, and I like it a lot. And I love just, you know, booting up a random Nicholas Cage movie and seeing if it's one of the good ones. And I did get curious, like, are there, you know, does Travolta have a pig out there or, you know, color out of space where it's like, oh, he was in this kind of weird, cheap movie, but he's great in it anyway. So it has gotten me thinking about the world of Travolta Slop, and I'm curious.
Starting point is 01:32:50 And sign me up for the third part in the series, right? There's going to be more, right? There's got to be. There's got to be. I mean, I do, you know, like, we meet the third brother of the Salazar, Zayne Blackfell. We got to meet the third brother. Oh, wait, wait, wait, it says right here.
Starting point is 01:33:07 I'm looking at John DeVult's filmography on Wikipedia. It says to be announced, cash out three. No way. No way. I think they're planning to do the third. Okay. Yeah, they're just waiting for Comic-Con to make the announcement. I do think it's funny.
Starting point is 01:33:24 When they have all the titles for phase three of the cash out of verse, yeah, on the screen. Right. That Travolta and Cage are, of course, linked because of face off. And it does seem like Travolta is like picking up the slack. now that Cage is sort of like clawed his way into mostly better material. Travolta is doing the sort of thing that Cage was doing for a while. I think we may need to look at more Travolta movies. Because have we, is this the first one we've seen since the Fanatic years back?
Starting point is 01:33:53 Yeah, the Fanatic was the last one. And Goddy was before that. I think we got a, this is an untapped vein. This is an untapped vein that we should be looking into more. Hey, Alexis. Hey, Ella. What animal has the most teeth? I would guess a shark.
Starting point is 01:34:12 A snail. No, snails don't have teeth. They have thousands and they are freaky looking. No, I don't want that to be true. Okay. Did you know that the hippocampus in your brain is named after the half horse, half fish, the creature found in Greek mythology?
Starting point is 01:34:28 I didn't know that, but we're meant to be doing animal trivia and hippocampus isn't a real animal. Well, that doesn't matter on comfort creatures. You're right, it doesn't matter at all. Comfort creatures is a cozy show for lovers of animals. of all shapes and sizes, real and unreal. If that sounds like your cup of tea, then join us every Thursday
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Starting point is 01:36:44 You're a man, comma, unlike, wait, I don't like to cook. Let's just, you said a little confusingly. I don't like to cook. Unlike Elliot, I like to cook, I said. You said, I'm a man unlike Elliot who likes to cook. Yeah, well. I just want people to think that Elliot likes to cook. Okay.
Starting point is 01:36:58 I don't think that would have been a problem, but in case there was any issue. It's the way I heard it and I was like, do I like to cook? Well, when I'm playing with a jazz band, I'd love to get cooking. But still, yeah. We say. Yeah. Point is, everyone needs a break. Even people like Dan's,
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Starting point is 01:39:38 Because we're recording a little ahead of schedule. I believe that that's true. I mean, we'll love the last episode, but you can still watch, yeah. But that being said, that's what I'm going to. Thank you. That being said, the episodes are still available at theflophouse.
Starting point is 01:39:51 Simpleticks.com through the end of February. We had a great time this season. It was Flopster Peace Theater. So we started with the 2000s and went back in time to look at movies from all different decades. And we talked about some flops, that are legendary that we never talked about
Starting point is 01:40:06 a couple of the movies we kind of liked. One of them I love. It turned out I was watching it. And we ended with, of course, Plan 9 from Outer Space, perhaps the most famous of all bad movies, the granddaddy of the idea of watching bad movies for fun, all those episodes where we had such a good time together and it was so enjoyed by the audience.
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Starting point is 01:40:37 That's Flop TV season three. It's no longer live, but it's still living in our hearts and on the website until the end of February. I also had a couple of personal things just to mention. I wanted to remind people that I have a new comic series. The first issue comes out February 11th, and that if maybe that was before now. Again, I don't remember when this episode's coming out. But that's my new series, Barbarian Behind Bars from Mad Cave. studios. I am reunited with my
Starting point is 01:41:06 maniac of New York co-creator Andrea Muti, and this is a new story about a Conan Heman type barbarian who ends up in our world chops a mad wizard's head off, gets thrown in jail, and has to figure out how to get out. It is about taking a high fantasy character
Starting point is 01:41:22 and throwing him into a kind of pulp jail setting, and I really had fun writing it, and I hope you will have fun reading it. That's Barbarian Behind Vars, Issue 1, coming out this February. My Joke or rather joke writing book, joke farming,
Starting point is 01:41:36 how to write comedy, other nonsense, still available on score shelves. It's deadly serious. It's incredibly, yeah, it's a deadly serious game of cat and mouse and jokes.
Starting point is 01:41:45 It's, I had a, this is something that I really synthesized all my thinking about comedy and how jokes work and now it's just available for you in one book
Starting point is 01:41:53 and it's fun to read. I think you'll like it. And I want to remind you that I'm still writing the Harley Quinn comic monthly at DC Comics and I'm still doing a podcast for SmartList,
Starting point is 01:42:02 the podcast, Clueless. Check it out. that's a lot of stuff coming from me. I hope you enjoy at least some of it, and I hope you buy all of it. Thank you. Let's move on to letters from listeners.
Starting point is 01:42:13 This one's from Luke Last Name Withheld. Who writes? Lucas Haas. I hope you enjoyed my movie, High Rollers. I had a lot of fun making it. John's great and a wonderful scene partner. I didn't look in his eyes, but that's only because it was in both of our contracts
Starting point is 01:42:30 that I wouldn't. I recently watched Unfaithfully Yours, Preston Sturgis' Screwball comedy, where Rex Harrison has fantasies about dealing
Starting point is 01:42:41 with his possibly cheating wife. But here's the thing. I went into the movie unaware of that and I completely missed the obvious signal that the movie had moved
Starting point is 01:42:50 from its reality into fantasy, even though it is indicated by literally zooming into Rex Harrison's eye to show we're going into his mind. And he replays it a couple different times
Starting point is 01:43:00 in different ways, yeah. I thought the movie suddenly should, shifted from wacky jokes to full film noir and was genuinely surprised when someone was murdered. I didn't understand why everyone was suddenly acting so differently until the fantasy ended. This is clearly not what Sturge is intended, but I somehow missed all the clues, Mr. Policeman. Has this happened to you? Have you ever completely missed an obvious story device and completely misunderstood something that was never meant to be misunderstood?
Starting point is 01:43:28 Best, Luke Lasting with Health. I mean, the classic flop house example is in time. in time, yeah. Didn't realize. We misunderstood that Olivia Wilde was supposed to be Justin Timberlake's mom, right? Yeah. Because of their frackling sexual chemistry. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:43:45 Guys, before we answer this question, this is my final thing about John Travolta. Apparently, he is in an upcoming movie directed by Rennie Harlan. About three generations of a family on a sailing holiday face an orca attack on their boat. No way. Jesus Christ. Many things I like in that. One ticket, please, for this movie that probably will not. not be in a place
Starting point is 01:44:05 where I would have to buy a ticket. One ticket for black tides, please. That's not a movie that's playing here. One to be unit, please. We show actual movies here. I believe you can just go home and dial that one up. So I was trying to think of a,
Starting point is 01:44:27 Dan tipped us off about this question at the time. And I was trying to think of an example. I know there have been ones where I miss a piece of information that has been stated, and then later on I'm like, oh, I guess I was supposed to know that, and like my wife will be like, yeah, well, they said it earlier. I'm like, oh, I don't know. But I'm having trouble thinking of a specific one,
Starting point is 01:44:42 but I know it's happened. I am not always watching movies with the keen eye that I am known for. Yeah, you've got to make sure you get all the schmuts off the plates while you're washing them. Even when I'm not watching a movie. I mean, there's the added obstacle of sometimes I am looking at the dish that I'm cleaning while I'm watching a movie, yeah. This is a really tough one.
Starting point is 01:45:04 I mean, I'm sure I have, but, you know, I just hate admitting that I make mistakes on the podcast. Oh, on the podcast. Not no, in life, I make, I admit it all the time. But on air, I don't want our listeners to think that a God like me can bleed, you know? Yeah, yeah, of course. I played through a couple of those Gears of War games without knowing that you could quick reload your gun.
Starting point is 01:45:26 That's crazy. Yeah, I don't know if you guys ever played those. There's a quick reload mechanic that makes them fighting a lot quicker, but I beat a couple of those. I'm like, oh, yeah, you can quick reload your gun. Anyway, I'm sure this was fascinating, and I'm glad I said it. It's like that Kurt Vonnegut's story about, you know, having like boots, weighted boots. What's that one?
Starting point is 01:45:44 Yeah, Harrison Bergeron. Yeah, yeah, you're like Harrison Bergeron. Now you're like you can jump so high in those games because you... I feel like I've told this story in the podcast before, but I'm going to tell it again, Jordan, when I was playing through Dark Souls remastered on my Switch. I got to the last... It wasn't until I got to the final boss of the game. that I realized you could parry,
Starting point is 01:46:03 and then I beat him super fast. Oh, that's funny. That was also the fight where, because it was on the switch, I was playing it, you know, on the go. And I just boarded a plane, and Shar and I sat down. And I'm like, oh, let me just push through this fog wall here,
Starting point is 01:46:19 huh? Up, boss music, up, there's the boss. And then Charlene slaps me on the arm, and I look up at her, I'm like, what? And she was just offering me a donut. And I looked down, I'm already dead. And I'm like, I put the game down.
Starting point is 01:46:32 I'm like, Charlene, I'm sorry that I freaked out. That was all on me. Right. These games are very stressful. A 10,000 person chorus just started screaming at me. You know when I'm in game mode? I cannot be interrupted or else I'm not liable to do anything. Game modes when I put on those wraparound shades and I sit in a minicab of my truck to play a game.
Starting point is 01:46:59 This next letter is one that you guys, Elliot and Stuart, have already seen. Normally, you know, I get these through the flop house mailbox, and I'm the one who, like, vets them and puts them together, and the rest of the gang hasn't seen the full letter, although they get the questions. But this case, you've seen it, but it's so good. Got to put it out there in the world for our listeners and for Jordan. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:47:27 This is from our pal Parker Bennett, who was a writer on the Super Mario Brothers movie. And what was the other one that he also? Mystery date. So he says... When you say Super Mario Brothers movie, the 90s? The original, okay. He says, impossible, as it may seem,
Starting point is 01:47:47 I've yet another zealike intersection with a bad movie featured on the flop house. Fortunately, I had nothing to do with writing the Master of Disguise, but in 2000 or so I had pivoted from writing bad movies like Super Mari Brothers to creating websites for them. My partner and I called our company Mogulsoft, and I was a creative head designing interactive flash extravaganzas, fashionable in the day. It even got a B-minus from Entertainment Weekly. Yes, they once reviewed websites.
Starting point is 01:48:16 The Master of Disguise was the last movie website I did. Others included, but I'm a cheerleader, Shadow of the Vampire and Capax. Was there like a little flash game for Shadow the Vampire Where you're like running from the vampire? I'll ask the email. Answer is inconclusive. Around this time, studios wised up that people just wanted to watch the trailer
Starting point is 01:48:38 and buy tickets, not solve puzzles and play flash games. I moved on doing my part for the post-9-11 baby boom. Acts of creation adjacent to disaster seemed to be my thing. You're a friend of the pod Parker. And if you're being like, master of disguise, I don't remember that episode. We just got back from San Francisco Sketchfest where we did a live show on Master of Disguise.
Starting point is 01:49:01 Dan left his heart there. He's been making left heart in San Francisco jokes nonstop. That'll be in the feed at some point, probably when we have scheduling difficulties and need something to save us. But look forward to that. It was a fun show. Yeah, it was.
Starting point is 01:49:21 And a great movie, two thumbs up. No, I don't think that was. I don't believe so. You'll have to listen to find out. It was a short movie, two thumbs down. Okay, yeah. Fair enough. Anything else to be said about Master of Disguise or...
Starting point is 01:49:36 Jordan, you have a connection to the master of... Boy, not a one. I know. I'm as surprised as you are. Well, in that case, let's move on to recommendations of films that, you know, might be a better way to spend your time than... watching direct to streaming Travolta action movies and I'm going to recommend
Starting point is 01:50:03 the return to gross horror movies of Sam Ramey I saw I'm going tonight what you think It's a lot of fun I mean it's not like the absolute highest heights of Sam Ramey but it is you know
Starting point is 01:50:22 him back in his wheelhouse buildings. It was like flying through the tops of buildings, yeah. He's clearly having a blast just like being gross again. There's like scenes where there's like a lot more blood and goo than you're going to expect. I've got tickets to see it in 4D, so I'm going to be shaking around. Oh, that's great. It's great.
Starting point is 01:50:41 It's like a guire show. The audience was reacting just as you want them to like with like, ah, noises but laughing a lot. Hell yeah. You know, I love Rachel McAdams basically in anything. The other guy who I don't know as well is also really good. The trailer makes it seem like a much more straightforward movie, I think, too, than it is. I think it's interesting some of the character twists and turns that happen. Just a fun movie.
Starting point is 01:51:14 If you like original movies, if you like Sam Ramey, like I would encourage people to, like, vote with their dollar and actually see it. Yeah, I want to see it. I am going to recommend a movie I saw a little while ago, but I haven't had a chance to recommend here on the show. It is a movie called Reflection in a Dead Diamond. It is a kind of, it's a like Gialo-esque spy movie-esque movie-esque movie that kind of, that is like all style. It is so much style, and yet it at least somewhat holds together as a movie
Starting point is 01:51:50 about an aging secret agent who is retired. He really puts the age in agent. Exactly. And he is kind of reflecting on his life, and he feels like kind of the sins of his past are coming back to haunt him along with some of his former foes. And this is made by the filmmakers who made the strange color of your body's tears
Starting point is 01:52:16 and let the corpse is tan. So you know they know how to name a movie be good. And I found to be just, again, as I said, like it's a movie, I'm used to movies being like super stylish and kind of gross and weird, but not actually making
Starting point is 01:52:32 much sense, but this one actually makes at least some sense, and I think it's, uh, I think it's really fun. I think, uh, I mean, I guess that that's true. I guess I see what you're saying, but also, like, I'm listening to this thinking like, Stewart's making this movie sound a lot more like straightforward and comprehensible than it is, too.
Starting point is 01:52:48 Yeah. It is also sort of like, I don't know. Like if you had a dream after watching danger diabolic or something. Yeah, yeah, I think that's fair. Like it's, uh, yeah. And I feel like it's got like elements of like Venture Brothers and the things Venture Brothers was aping. Like I think it's great.
Starting point is 01:53:04 It's weird and gross and awesome. Oh, and before, uh, and in general, I won't name out a specific movie, but go watch Catherine O'Hara movies, RIP to a little bit. Yeah. Absolutely. No one's funny. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:53:16 She's the, that was, that was, we're recording this the day after the news broke that Catherine O'Hara died. I'm sure it hit you guys very hard. It hit me very hard. I was really hoping to meet or work with her someday. She's just amazing. And so I was very sad about that. That being said, I also wasn't planning to recommend it,
Starting point is 01:53:34 Catherine O'Hara movie today. Maybe I should. Well, closely waiting for Guffman. That I'd also recommend another movie. Also, I recently finally got to watch a movie. I've been wanting to see for years. It's a Polish movie from 1965. It's called the Saragossa manuscript.
Starting point is 01:53:50 And it is a movie about storytelling in a way in that it is one of these movies where a character starts telling a story and then in that story another character starts telling a story. And we follow that story and then in that story another's character starts telling a story. And it's this common, it's this basically mainly about a soldier who is wandering through Spain in the 18th century and has a series of, or might be earlier, and has had a series of, or might be earlier, and has had. having a series of strange encounters. Some of them are kind of surreal and supernatural. Some of them are just kind of like bawdy. But there's a lot of fun stuff in it. And for a movie that is three hours of characters interrupting plot lines to tell other
Starting point is 01:54:35 stories and have other plots come in, it's when things start kind of like looping together in different ways, it's really fun and satisfying. So if you want to see a movie that is kind of like twisty storytelling where it's less about where the story is going to, than about what's the turn it's going to make next, and where there's funny stuff, there's spooky stuff, and there's a lot of women in low-cut dresses, much, many more than I expected to see in the movie
Starting point is 01:55:02 when I first started watching it, then I would recommend the Saragossa manuscript. Jordan, have you seen anything that you would recommend? Yes, I will admit I am a few episodes behind on the flop house. I'm usually all caught up. I can't imagine y'all haven't talked about the old Bone Temple. But
Starting point is 01:55:20 You got to go down to the old bone temple I think you recommended it, didn't you sir? I don't think I had a chance. Or maybe I did. I don't think we've recorded an episode. Oh, well. Yeah, please recommend it on behalf of all that. Yeah, please recommend the greatest movie.
Starting point is 01:55:34 28 years later, bone temple. It fucking rules. It's so, it's not only great. It's like, I don't know, I think it's weirdly an all-timer for me. I loved it. Yeah. is, yeah, it's like, you know, I could see, you know, seeing it out there and going like, oh, they kind of cranked out of a 28 sequel, kind of close to the other one. This is, it's, it's its own thing and it just rips.
Starting point is 01:56:01 It's so surprising. It's so weird and funny. The acting is wonderful. It includes a dance scene that is maybe one of the greatest things ever to appear on film. Yeah, and it's a great theater movie. I feel like it is one that, you know, maybe people kind of. slept on a little bit. It was a, I don't know,
Starting point is 01:56:20 maybe a little bit of an underperformer. And I like, I look at the, like, at the, you know, area of film, two online film people who,
Starting point is 01:56:29 you know, gush about your weapons and your sinners, which are two great movies. Where are you guys on Bone Temple? It's so good. I really, really loved it.
Starting point is 01:56:39 I think if you're, definitely the flop freaks will love this movie. And yeah, if you still have a chance to see it in a theater, do it, do it. It is.
Starting point is 01:56:46 I saw it sitting next to Stewart. Yeah. And there's a scene that you... What a coincidence. I was vibrating. You talk about the dance scene. I don't want to, like, spoil it too much for anyone who hasn't seen it.
Starting point is 01:56:57 But, like, being next to Stewart... I have not gotten to see it yet. So, yeah, don't spoil it. My horror metal track suit wearing friend... Yeah. I'm like, Stuart, this scene, like, this is, like, your heart made a wish that you didn't even know existed. And it was granted.
Starting point is 01:57:15 It's, yeah, there's so many things about that movie that feel like... it's speaking directly to me, and I feel like, at least from what I've heard, this is the case with a number of people out there that this is a movie that manages to balance two wildly differing tones of like... Totally. Very brutal, very cruel,
Starting point is 01:57:32 but at the same time, there's a tenderness and a compassion that you don't often... you don't see in movies that often, let alone like a fucking post-apocalyptic horror movie. Rafe finds is like delivering some of the best material in an already incredible career. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:57:48 Yeah. Ray finds, yeah, I mean, give that guy an Oscar for this, but also give the giant zombie an Oscar for this. That guy's great. There's a guy who we see a little bit in the first 28 years later. Sampson. Samson, yes. He's great.
Starting point is 01:58:05 Huge dick. Great. Is Jack O'Connell the name of the other? Yeah. He's so good in it, too. And there's like a scene between him. and Ray Fines that is so funny and tense and like Tinder in its weird way. It's just an amazing scene.
Starting point is 01:58:28 And the social media push of the movie, a lot of the, you know, there's been some Jack O'Connell because he got, you know, he was great in sinners as well as a similarly like charming villain. The, but there's been a lot of the relationship between Reifines and the actor who plays Samson. And there's a lot of them talking about the prosthetic. and things like that. But it is like their equivalent of every other fucking movie trying to make me believe
Starting point is 01:58:53 that the two leads of the movie are in love with each other. Like, I don't know if you guys are tired of this. Every fucking Wuthering Heights ad is like, you know what? They actually might be in love. I'm like, I don't think so. She's got like a kid.
Starting point is 01:59:05 The house made. You get a lot of Sidney and Amanda Seafreed blinking longly at each other. Yeah, yeah. I mean, but that's like, I feel like that's the modern element of like movie promotion. is like, how can we make people think that the actual,
Starting point is 01:59:21 like, we love celebrity culture so much. Let's get the real people involved. And you already burned me with Liam Neeson and Pamela Anderson, in her name. We're not that far away from when the ad campaign for a movie will be like, did Tom Cruise really die making this stunt? We haven't seen him in a long time. We haven't seen him since the movie came out, come see the movie, see if you really died.
Starting point is 01:59:44 I already see the YouTube thumbnail of that clip. there was a I was writing a script that actually I banned it in favor of like I think a better idea. Thank you, Elliot, for weighing in. But like one of the things I had in there was like that I did like as an idea was like two celebrities who were mad at each other, you know, like having to deal with each other in close proximity. But they're mad at each other not because of a breakup, but because one of them like handled their fake relationship in a way. they didn't like the studio encouraged fake relationships. They had like a fake breakup that was causing them like a strife. That's a solid rom-com premise, too.
Starting point is 02:00:25 I might reuse that somewhere. Don't take it. Dan McCoy. TM, TM. That's like, Dan's mailing it to himself right now. Yeah. Oh man, that was a treat. Thank you for letting me a space to talk about 28 years later.
Starting point is 02:00:41 I only assumed you guys a bit. It's been nonstop Bone Temple talk for the past couple episodes. but yeah, I'm glad I could recommend it. It's a very flop-house movie. I think they made the mistake of taking that movie out too soon after the last 28 years later movie. Like, they should have waited another year, I think. Yeah, maybe, yeah, I mean, you're right.
Starting point is 02:00:58 Maybe people just thought it was a weird passion or something. As much as I like Danny Boyle, I feel like I connect more with the Niedicasa's directorial style. Man, it's a little... It's so good. It's such a good movie. Anyway. I got to see it. Bone Temple.
Starting point is 02:01:14 Well, this is... been a delight as evidenced by how little we were able to stay on topic for time. All right. That's a backhanded compliment, if ever there was one. No, no, no. I think that that's a good sign of having fun. But Jordan, why don't you take a moment? What are you grinning about that?
Starting point is 02:01:35 That's going to be our next fucking T-shirt slogan. A good sign of having fun. And it's just like a picture of a runtime or something. Yeah. Jordan, please promote your. stuff. Oh, sure, I would love to. Hey, I know that this is a podcast listenership that's got a poll list. So if you're one of those folks, consider adding the upcoming Marvel Comics release Predator Bloodshed. It is a Predator mini-series written by me, art by Roland Boshi and Rory Coleman,
Starting point is 02:02:07 the predator. You know this guy. Everybody's favorite alien. Hear me out. He's got a brain. He's cool. Yeah. It's got a cramp face. Jordan, I want to support your project. I cannot stand by and say that the predator is my favorite alien. What would it be? E.T. Yeah, he would you like better than the predator.
Starting point is 02:02:25 I don't know. I don't know if they're like the alien. How about the alien, Jordan? Do you like the xenomorph? Like you want to hang out with the xenomorph? We've covered this on a past mini-buff. We've talked about it. Can you get a beer with the xenomorph?
Starting point is 02:02:37 Well, most people. We wrote a sex song about the xenomorph. That's true. We did. Most right-thinking people's favorite alien. the Predator. Okay. In this, in continuity mini-series,
Starting point is 02:02:49 The Predator gets loose at an underground fighting tournament, much like the kind you would see in Mortal Kombat or Street Fighter, but it's a group of martial artists versus The Predator. Yes, when I'm pitching things, I just think to myself,
Starting point is 02:03:03 what would Stewart think is awesome? And then I pitch that. I'm holding my Mortal Kombat Annihilation DVD and my Predator DVD, just kind of mush them together. That's this basically. Yes, it starts on February 25th. The first issue comes out.
Starting point is 02:03:22 It's looking really gorgeous. Both Roland and Rory do awesome art. The Predator looks cool. It's gory. It's fun. Maybe you got a little dark comedy in there. I think folks are really going to dig it. So yeah, February 25th, wherever you get your comics.
Starting point is 02:03:35 Or if you want signed by me copies, you go to bit.ly slash cool fight. Bit. bit.ly slash cool fight. And you can get them from a local comic book store here in LA called Collectors Paradise. They ship anywhere.
Starting point is 02:03:50 So if you're not sure if you can get it in your zone, bit.ly slash cool fight, you get them in the mail anywhere you are. And hey, I also do some podcasts on the Maximum Fun Network. Jordan Jesse Go,
Starting point is 02:04:02 the comedy chat show, free with ads, the movie chat show. The floppers have been on both of these shows. Dan and Stu were on free with ads, not too long ago, and we talked about the apartment.
Starting point is 02:04:14 So if you want to hear Flop House host talk about a good movie. A really good movie, yeah. A really good movie. And, yeah, it's been on Jordan Jesse Go a bunch of times, so check it out. I don't want to overplug, but I think this is special for the Flop House audience. If there's any Southern California floppers out there, I am hosting a predator double feature at the Frida Cinema in Santa Ana. That is February 26th at 7 p.m. we're showing the original Predator and Predator Badlands
Starting point is 02:04:43 and I'll be there hosting and giving out comics and signing comics. So please come out to that if you're in the Southern California area. You get those tickets at thefrida Cinema.org. Okay, done plugging. Great. A lot of exciting stuff for Jordan Morris fans and Predator fans. Yes. The Vendajum overlaps quite a bit.
Starting point is 02:05:03 Yeah, I think so. People like me and Jacked Aliens. Well, now it's time for us to. plug up our mouths for this episode. Dan, you don't use that plug your mouth. You don't know where it's been. Before that happens, a quick exhortation to go over to Maximumfund.org.
Starting point is 02:05:24 Listen to some of the other great podcasts on the network, including those starring our guest host, Jordan. Thank you to Alex Smith, our producer. He goes for the name Howl Doughty. You can listen to his music and see his Twitch streams. He's got a podcast. It's very funny. Check his workout. For the flop-ass, I've been Dan McCoy.
Starting point is 02:05:45 I've been Stuart Wellington. I've been Elliot Kalen. Hey, I'm Jordan Morris, and I was also on the show. That's a little catchphrase. That's me, the guy who was on the show. See you. Eat me in St. Louis? Do that for kids?
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