The Flop House - Jurassic World: Rebirth

Episode Date: January 3, 2026

Seventh time's the charm right? We discuss the commercial hit, but critical punching bag Jurassic World: Rebirth, the movie that presents a society that's bored of dinosaurs, and then makes a pretty good argument in favor of that boredom.We’re coming back to San Francisco Sketchfest on January 25! Get tickets now! We’ll be discussing THE MASTER OF DISGUISE!OR, if you prefer to watch us from the comfort of your own home! TONIGHT on the day of release, 1/3, we'll be doing a new episode of Flop TV (tix here)! Tonight episode is on the 1967 mega-bomb DOCTOR DOLITTLE!Stay updated on Flop House events and side projects, plus a little extra, with our NEWSLETTER, “Flop Secrets!Paste https://feeds.simplecast.com/EOAFriME into iTunes (or your favorite podcatching software) to have new episodes of The Flop House delivered to you directly, as they’re released.Wikipedia page for Jurassic World: RebirthRecommended in this episode:Dan: Wake Up Dead Man (2025)Stu: Now You See Me: Now You Don't (2025)Elliott: Being There (1979)

On this episode we discuss, Jurassic World Rebirth. The Dinosaur movie for people who don't give a shit about dinosaurs. Hey, everyone, and welcome to the Flop House. I'm Dan McCoy. I'm Stuart Wellington. Whoa, you know, surprised me. I'm Ellie Kalen worried about Stuart Wellington. I think it's time to give him one of those cognitive tests that the president keeps acing.

Honestly, we talked so much before the show started rolling that I think that by the time it's happened, Stuart was like, oh, wait, okay, this is different. I got to think of Mike here. Yeah, I thought we had done the show already, yeah. Yeah. He was already on his way home. He was riding his bicycle. In my head, I'm like, so I've got to pick up eggs, bread, more eggs. Someone's making French toast.

Ooh, la, la. Okay, well, on this podcast, we watch a bad movie and talk about it. Yeah, because French toast is toast with tongue, Dan. That's what it is, yeah. You watch a bad movie, then we talk about it. Yeah, a film that perhaps audiences or critics rejected or both, and then we see what we have to say about it. We are the final judges. Yeah. Only us can judge.

Sorry, go on. This episode, audiences did not reject it. It made a lot of money. So it was not a financial flop. It was the fifth highest grossing film of 2025. Even though when I mentioned it to somebody recently, they said, there was another Jurassic Park movie? That honestly fucking shocks me.

Like, this movie feels like it was just, it just disappeared into the ether. I can understand, I guess, like, people being like, oh, I still like Jurassic Park. I'm tired of like the Chris Pratt arc of it so maybe seeing Scarjo up there on the screen and dinosaurs are like yeah I'll give it a shot but beyond that I find that very confusing just because it's been diminishing returns for decades now

well did it make less money than the last one I think it might have made more but I'm not sure how we went up let's look up according to Wikipedia whether it did but this was also I have to imagine I didn't get to go to the theaters this much this year this seems like a year of very few movies, to be honest. I feel like I'm looking at the top 10 movies of 2025,

highest grossing, according to Wikipedia, and F1 is number eight. F1 did better than I thought, but like, that's a surprise to me, that F1 did so well. What, the dads go to movies? Dads don't get to go to movies, if I'm any indication. Yeah.

Well, I mean, we've talked about it before, I don't want to get into too much bitterness, but it feels like the entertainment industry in that way is in like this weird death spiral where they're like, I don't know, things aren't doing well. What we should do is make less stuff. And it's like, well, you're, that's going to make it worse, guys.

Yeah. You got to, like, recommit to actually doing new things and a lot of them. This and the, uh, the, so it made less money than the last one. I didn't realize. So this says that, according to Wikipedia, Jurassic World Dominion made over a billion dollars. Holy shit. Worldwide, which the, I mean, the budget. You could open a dinosaur park with that kind of.

I mean, the budget was $465 million. So it's possible that movie barely broke even, you know, uh, with it, with it making a billion but that's according to Wikipedia but also the top like of the top five movies of the of the year according to Wikipedia Jurassic World is the only one that's not a family film a family or children's film

so that shows you like kind of what why people are going to the movies which is that you got to do something with those kids you know you got to find something to do with them for a couple hours anyway that was what I call the Kaelin box office report I mean anything good in that box office report anything good in the boat anything above it

in uh any anything good on that list Anything that you've seen that you're like, that's a good movie? Ironically, the only movies I've seen in the theaters now are movies I take my kids to. So I saw three out of the five. So like sinners and... Yeah, sinners, exactly, yeah. The, yeah, Eddington. But the, it looks like number one is a Chinese movie I'm not familiar with, New Xia 2.

Then there's Lilo and Stitch, the live action remake and Zootopia 2, and then a Minecraft movie. Oh, okay. And then Jurassic Park... So you saw at least the... You saw the Minecraft one, right? I saw Lilo and Stitch. I saw a Minecraft movie and I saw Zootopia too.

Oh, okay. Or Tootopia, as it should have been called. Zootopia? Zootopia, I think, makes more sense because it keeps the zoo in the title. Tutopia makes you think that it's a world of twos. Yeah, living twos. Yeah, good point.

Yeah, sorry, as Elliot mentioned, I wandered away for a second. I realized that the computer was not plugged in, which could cause issues later on down the line. Yeah, probably. It was a race against time. But let's get it. into, now that we've talked about the box office,

the most important thing, of course, in today's society. Well, no, but it's just surprising that, so the first Jurassic Park, we've talked about it before. It was the biggest movie in the world. It was one of the biggest movies of all time. It was so magical. It had such a big impact, I think, on all of us, certainly on me, but also on culture

in general. And it's amazing, and this is something that other people have said a million times. It's the thing you talk about with Avatar, that like, this movie was a big hit, but I don't know. Like, nobody I know talks about it, thinks about it, has mentioned it. You know, it's just not something that's on people's minds, you know.

Yeah, I mean, I'm not going to dog on Jimmy, Jimmy C over here, but the first Jurassic Park. Jimmy Carter? Yeah, that's who I'm, we're talking, yeah, Jimmy Carter, director of Avatar. I mean, I bet, you know, there's a chance Jimmy Carter saw Avatar guys, and I bet he would like it. There is a chance he saw Avatar, yeah. But what I'm saying is that, I sympathize with that message of environmentalism.

Yeah, exactly. If only I could be put into a navvy body. To live again. To stick my ponytail and do another flying. So make love to a tree or something. Do they grow peanuts on other planets? I'd like to find out. But what I'm saying is that having recently rewatched the original Jurassic Park, like,

the effects still hold up. Like, it's great. By the way, I can't remember whether I told this story on the podcast or just you guys privately. Tell it again. Mention it again, which was that, like, originally, like, I started watching this movie on Peacock before we were going to do it for the show, and then I just, like, stopped because I'm like, why am I doing this? Like, we should, if I'm going to watch this thing, I should be watching for the show. I'm not going to enjoy it. You want to get paid for it, yeah.

But I thought I was watching it, and I, because I saw that it was on Peacock, and I'm like, yeah, Jurassic Park. I, like, clicked on it because it had been up front. and the first scene started and I'm like, wow, wow, this is doing a really good pastiche of Spielberry, like a really whoever, you know, like they did a good job and then I realized like, oh no,

like because they had this movie on Peacock, they had also added all the other Jurassic Parks and I'd accidentally clicked on the first one and forgotten that begins with the scene where they're like loading up a dino in the crate and whatever. Yeah.

This movie is the first scene. You're like, Sam Neal is looking great. He looks like he looked in 1993. Yeah, it was when Sam Neal showed up that I'm like, oh, oh, oh. It wasn't when the title Jurassic Park came up on screen. Did that happen beforehand? I can't remember. I don't remember.

Maybe it didn't. Anyway, this movie less, you know, skillful in its filmmaking, perhaps. What? Let's get into the details. It is no harsh words to say perhaps less skillful than Steven Spielberg, one of the greatest filmmakers of all time, you know? Yeah, I mean, like, this is a movie, not to like tip Final Judge was too early, where, like, a lot of talented people are involved.

I don't necessarily blame any of them. It's like, I don't necessarily blame the director, screenwriter, actors, because they've done good work before, and I presume we'll do good work in the future. It's a thing where I blame the system. The larger question, maybe this is where you're going, what I know, But the larger question is, do we need any more Jurassic Park movies? Yes. And I feel like that's where the answer is potentially no.

And they did the incorrect answer, which is yes. And then through no fault to their own, you know, everyone was trying hard in this movie. But anyway, you'll... And I also feel like in this modern world, like the way blockbusters are made, no one gets the time to actually, like, seriously do the pre-production work that's necessary, like the planning out, like, people are like, oh, we've got, you know, digital cameras. we can just cover everything and cut it together. However, it doesn't matter.

Like, I feel like the whole process is not built for smartly made blockbusters anymore. And I would imagine that the role of director and something like this is more like managing the circus rather than actually making a movie. Like the making a movie is less like making a film and more like, how do I navigate all the bullshit that has to go into making this mega movie? Yeah, I mean, well, I'm sure they have. have less creative control than they might like anyway um so the movie starts oh 2008 well that's nice i mean it's off to it's off to a good beginning some movies never start you know it just

yeah like uh the day the clown cried the schmeel borgs that movie never started i just made it up never started at all yeah um so we're in some invasion of the cat police again never start It's a real shame because that sounds great. Sounds great. All those little kitty cats and those little police uniforms, yeah, yeah. Oh, that's the kind of what we're talking about. I thought it was people that police the cats.

Don't fool it there. Oh, little tabby, you've got to get back in your cage. All right, nothing to see here. Just a bit of cats. Leave that poor bird alone. Okay. I believe the sofa's got the message. Put the claws away.

So. There would be a place for what you're doing, and it's called the litter box. Let's get moving to it, Tammy. Okay, not like this version of it, more stupe. Were there tiny cops, tiny Irish cops,

that just make sure cats follow the rules? And, you know, hurting cats famously difficult, so a lot of alcoholism in the cat police. Oh, it's very difficult. Very difficult posting, yeah. Yeah, because they're little. like a thimble full of alcohol, fuck

him up. Yeah, that's the point. Super easy to overdo it. To be honest, why didn't they make this movie? Guys, I don't understand. That's a family of Hollywood. Just like Jurassic Park, where you're like fucking Dominal Gleason to be one of the cops.

He looks like Donald. Sorry, Domnol. I don't know. It's funnier to say Domnall. Stuart, you used to just proudly mispronounce people's names all the time. You've changed, man. I know. So, yeah, back in 2008,

we're at some engine facility devoted to genetically modified dynos, and security fails there because of a really dumb accident with a candy wrapper. I like the final destinationness of it. It is very final destination. I will say this.

This is the first of a, the hint of what is one of the themes of this movie, which is that people are tired of dinosaurs, which is such bullshit. I had so much trouble. They're like, They'll see it. They're like, we're shutting down the dinosaur museum. Dinosaur are especially anymore. And I'm like, have you been to a zoo? It's the same fucking animals we've been seeing for

hundreds of years. People still love them. And to borrow a critique from, like, Griffin and Blank Check was talking about this. Like, don't start a movie by being like, hey, this thing is boring. The thing that you like that you're seeing the movie about, it's stupid and people don't like it. It's dumb and boring. It's like, why am I supposed to care about a movie if you're telling me that it shit like what the like I feel like it is supposed to be this like meta commentary on like oh like Jurassic Park movies aren't special

anymore and it's like well yeah well then don't make the goddamn movie what the fuck? It's like in the third mummy movie when the brother of uh you know everybody is like sick of mummies he's like mummy show up he's like oh mummies again I hate these guys I like they described as the brother of everybody which he is

we're all brothers and sisters in the human race I mean he's uh he's Rachel Rice's brother but then he's the brother-in-law to Brendan Frasier. That's true. You've got a Rachel Weiss, Vice. Oh, I guess it's not Rachel Weiss, though. It's a Kate Beck and Sale, I know.

Yeah, right. Oh, I'm sorry. It's been a long time since I've tried to explore with the Dragon Emperor's Tomb. The Tomb of the Dragon Emperor. They should really be apologizing to Kate back in sale. Yeah. Hey, I mean, she's great.

So, anyway, the security fails because of a candy And I'm like, this is bad security. If this one candy racker can do it. But anyway, a guy gets eaten by a dino, a big monster, mutant dino. Derex. This is the D-Rex, which is, we'll see it more later. And it's basically they made a rancor. Like, at this point, they're like, we're not even trying to make them like dinosaurs.

They're just rancors. I think it kind of looked like a xenomorph dinosaur because it had that big, like, bulbous head. Yeah, like a dome head. No one else is like a big bulbous head like that, a rancor. But yeah, Dan, you're right. I think this is more of like a squat sort of like snubhead. It would have been really cool if there were like Gimori and guards as well. They had like, if they're already fucking DNA fooling, you know.

Kids are tired of dinosaurs. We're just remaking all the creatures from the Java sequence and return of the Jedi. And then I can finally have a salacious crumb. This would be great. I like the idea that they're like, yeah, so the dynos ain't working, ain't paying all the bills. So we also need to be genetically modifying things to look like Star Wars crap for Disney World or whatever. We got a pig. We turned it into a Gimori Guard.

We can't get them to be green. That's the problem. We can't crack that night. You paint them. It's fine. It's fine. They just, they lick the pain off because, again, they're pigs.

They're not, we have, it's hard to get them to hold an axe because, you know, they're not tool using animals, you know. You tape it to their hands. Or hoof, upper hoofs. Anyway, after this accident.

We are the guys who are bringing out, we're showing the executives of what we've been able to do so far with the Gammorian Guard project. And they're like, all right. I like that it's a pig on two legs. Here's, here are my criticisms. Wrong color.

It's easy to tell the axe is taped to his upper hoof. Yeah, we're working on that. We're working on that. And actually, I think audiences will appreciate that they can see the seams, you know? That they can tell that it's kind of low-fi. It makes it feel more real, you know. After this accident, we flash forward to 2025. This is all, of course, in the same mainline continuity.

Did you see the last one? I didn't see the last one. I never saw it. I kind of wanted to because it had the returning cast, but I never actually saw it. We didn't do that for the show? No, we did the middle one. Oh, okay.

And I didn't see the one before that. So I feel like I'm just, I'm out to see here. Here's what you need to know. There was a dinosaur theme park and it went wrong. No, but it like, didn't like the dinoes get out and like spread around the planet for a minute. The dinosaurs got out and there everywhere. And now this movie starts, the dinosaur starts dying off. And they're like getting fucking jobs and shit and having to go to work.

Yeah. It's the money for nothing video but with dinosaurs. Oh, you've got to move these microwave ovens. Teradactyls of, you know, turntable now. Cool. Yeah, I like it. Yeah, yeah. It's a living, yeah, et cetera.

Yeah, the taradactal would be the needle, right? Yeah, exactly. So, yeah, we're in the same continuity, and the Earth's climate has proved climate. I was going to let it go. I was going to let it go, and I'm glad you called it out. That is the climate, yeah. It's proved inhospitable for these dynos. So most of them are, you know, around equatorial regions where people aren't allowed to go.

And like you said, everyone's bored of the dynos, which is represented by, we see a pharma representative of Martin Krebs, played by Rupert Friend, being bored by a traffic jam in Brooklyn where there's like a brontosaurus. Caused by like the last living brannosaurus in captivity. Yeah. Yeah. Last living brinosaurce in New York. Yeah. And he's like, ho-hum. Which, as the creator of Maniac of New York, I kind of like that idea.

Yeah. People are, like, it's just a part of everyday life. I don't think they did. Yeah, I expected some kids to be showtiming off of it. That would have been great. They're tagging the side of this four dinosaur. Oh. Sliding down is back.

He meets with a... Because they just, the whistle got pulled at work, so they're sluggled. lighting down his back to get into their car. Yeah, it's all Flintstones, Dan. You need another cultural touchstone for dinosaurs other than the Flintstones. Well, I mean... Dinos and humans living together. If they're already DNA fooling with dinosaurs,

why don't they try and make like Fred Flintstones and shit, too? So here's the thing. Fred Flintstone is just a person. Anyone can make a Fred Flintstone if you have a son. Just dress them in a belt. I mean, Hollywood made a Fred Flintstone. His body's shaped pretty wild, though, right? His name is John Goodman in the Flintstone.

body is pretty rectangular. That's true, and his head takes up a huge amount of his general silhouette, yeah. It's just sort of like one-third of the shape. Yeah, I mean, because the thing is, you could just put a person, but like people want it to look like the cartoon, right? Yeah. Yeah, that's what people want. They want genetically modified things from the past to look like the cartoon. That's where, I think we've talked, maybe we talked about this before, every time I go on YouTube to listen to music, because I like to, I, YouTube has been great for me for discovering music that I never would have known about before.

It's bad for everything else. It wants me to watch videos people have made where they use AI to create, here's what this cartoon character would look like in real life. And there's one for the Flintstones that keeps coming up. And the thing I think is funny is that the male characters is like, yeah, that's pretty all right. The female characters are always way bustier and show way more cleavage. And I'm like, I don't remember Betty Rubble with cleavage. Like, this doesn't seem right.

But it's very funny that it's really showing you who's making these, what they want out of them. Or rather, who's telling the computer to make these. Yeah, so this pharma guy meets with Zora Bennett, who is played by Scarlet Johnson. If you're going to have horny Flintstone's characters, I want a human hand to create everything. I want their individual hangups and kinks to inform every line. The horniness of the artist has to come through. So we got Scarlett Johansson. Now, she is arguably one of the most bankable action stars in the world, right?

like she's been in so many huge movies I mean I mean if you count the Avengers movies in there I guess I do yeah yeah I don't know if I would say star of yeah outside of that I don't know if I necessarily if people people think of her as like an action star necessarily she's a great actress you know but I do I'm I think I mean I would say a jack of all trades I mean like yeah she's a she is a scarjo of all trades yeah she's a great range she can do all kinds of different things but I yeah I I'm with Ellie, I wouldn't be like, oh, you know, like, bankable action star.

But, like, she can headline a blockbuster for sure. Yes, for sure. And she's certainly very good in an action scene. She's really good at it. But I think the issue, so she's playing a character who's a mercenary. It's also a nice, friendly mercenary with the heart of gold, who never has to learn a lesson because she's already a sweet person. And I had a lot of trouble buying the character of the sweet-loving mercenary. Yeah, yeah.

I mean, no characters have any traits in this? No, that's not true. The Rupert friend character is an evil. He's basically Paul Reiser and Aliens. He's just an evil greedy guy. He's not as bad. Yeah. Not as bad or as good.

I read some review that pointed out that if any character has some sort of tragic backstory, they survive and any character that doesn't have one gets eaten. Yes, I mean, the characters, this movie is not hiding the ball at all over which characters are going to get eaten and which ones are not. Like the cannon fodder, they might as well just walk up and go, don't bother learning anything about me. You won't have to. I'm going to get eaten by a dinosaur pretty soon.

Elliot, it's like you've anticipated my notes here. Okay, well, so let's talk about, so Scarlett Johansson, they meet in a car. Yeah, they meet in the car. He wants her to go to the Jurassic Park Zone to retrieve dino material that could help with a heart disease. And she, of course, lost a friend. Bigger their biggest hearts, dude. Yeah, well, we'll get it. They lost a friend, she lost a friend on her last job, you know, part of her, boring backstory.

But it's convinced by the money, she's offered a lot of money. they go to meet paleontologist Henry Loomis, played by People's Sexiest Man Alive, Jonathan Bailey, yes. You got a problem right off the bat. Maybe it's a fun thing, I don't know. When you have a character named Dr. Loomis in your movie, I'm going to assume

he's related to Donald Pleasance's character from Halloween. So every time they went Loomis, I was like, is Michael Myers on the run with the Jurassic Park dinosaurs? Which would have been great. I would love it. I assumed that this was like a tip of the cap, but like, it's a weird one. It's like why are you tipping your cap to Dr.

Loomis in this dinosaur movie? It's weird for the romantic like the romantic character for the other star who's supposed to be like the nerdy expert who finds his adventurer's zone or whatever

for him to be a tip of the hat to Dr. Loomis because back then Donald Pleasance was people's sexiest man I forgot he was people's sexiest man that year

the year Halloween came out yeah yeah but as Stuart alluded to that headline on the front said wake in delight Donald Pleasins people sexiest man of the year

as Stu alluded to they need material from the biggest dinosaurs because of the biggest hearts which will help better with heart medicine. Good thing they didn't come after me because I have an enormous heart.

Yeah. Here's, this is going to be the first. I hope I won't do too much. They could have to me for wang medicine. Oh, we need a wing medicine. I mean, that's the thing. That would make more sense if they're like, hey, yeah, so big farmer really wants

to fix a dude's boners. So we want to give people bigger boners. So we're going to the dinoes with the biggest dogs. Like that, I'm like, oh yeah, they would spend so much money on That would be very funny. You've got to grind up these dino horns. I'm going to try not to be too pedantic about the treatment of the dinosaurs and the other

prehistoric animals in the movie because it's incredibly inaccurate. But there's a mistake they made here where it almost any thin layer of suspension of disbelief that I had where they go to this paleontologist, number one, the fact that he's like, yeah, we're closing down the dinosaur museum because people don't want to be here anymore. And I'm like, what? Like, what is going on? Setting that aside. that he says, we're going to go after

the three biggest dinosaurs, Mosasaurus, and I'm like, right off the bat, that's not a dinosaur. And then he goes, titanosaurus, cat's a quadal, the largest of the, of the,

of the terasaurus, like, also not a dinosaur. And I wish that they had made, I was like, I was bothering my wife about it. I was like, here's how you should do that moment. He says, we need to get samples from a mosasaur,

a tritanosaur, and a catacuadal. And then Scarlet Johansson says, or something that says like, okay, the three dinosaurs. Those are three dinosaurs. He goes, a mosasaurus is technically not a dinosaur.

it's a marine reptile and she can say whatever it's got sorris in the name i don't you know whatever nerdling yeah and you use that to one establish oh this guy is an expert he's real pedantic about some little piece of information that a average viewer may not be aware of two you can make a joke out of it three you start some tension between the two of them so that they don't like each other so that when they do like each other it's a it's a turn it's a turn about and i don't mean to tell david kepp one of the great modern you know uh blockbuster screenwriters had to do his job it's that would be presumptuous of me. But it made me so mad that it's like,

right off the bat, the paleontologist character is calling Mosasaurus a dinosaur, which is the kind of thing that no other character would care about, but that character should care about, being specific about those classifications, you know?

Also, I mean, like... And the audience will learn something, you know? And the audience will learn something about not everything that lived back then, those are reptiles, a dinosaur. Marine reptiles, not dinosaurs. Terosaurs, not dinosaurs.

Come on, guys. This is fascinating to you. This is off to the side of your complaint, but I also in the scene like I know you got to have a MacGuffin and like if the movie's working I don't really care about this kind of thing but I was like

why do you have to have stuff from these three dinosaurs like if it's just that you need like big dino DNA then like why is it like okay these three dinos are the ones we got to get we got to get all of them it just didn't make you yeah if you only get two

yeah you're done I mean I also I also found it the fact that even after some of them have died The others are still like, Kretzikwadal, okay, that's the next one on our list. It would be like, it was hard for me to buy that they still cared that much about this particular mission, you know, after people start getting eaten by Mosasors

and things like that. But I don't know. Anyway, Stuart, I was just going to say, we're like pretty deep in the plot of this movie, so I think it's an inappropriate time to talk about. I was doing a little research in the director. It's Gareth Evans. Edwards.

Edwards. Evans is the martial arts guy. And I just noticed his last three movies, Rogue One, The Creator, and Jurassic World Rebirth all have the exact same runtime of two hours and 13 minutes. Is that some kind of like weird angel number shit? I wouldn't be surprised if it is. Look, I didn't make it up. My guess is that, and I could be wrong about this,

my guess is maybe it's just him, I don't know, but my guess is that the studio will say, we don't want it to be two and a half hours. That's too long. And they'll say, well, we need to be more than two hours for our, you know, to tell this story and it's, and make it feel like an event. My guess is that probably is around the ballpark

or the ideal length for one of those movies from the studio point of view. You know, I could be wrong about that. It's also like two hours, less than two and a half hours. I don't think it eats that much into the number of screenings you can show, that kind of thing. So anyway, that's my guess. My guess is that there's a reason for that.

Well, anyway, back to the movie that has barely started. Jonathan Bailey gets, the paleontologist, gets drafted into coming along. The baili ontologist. Down on the tropics, we are introduced to Zora's old partner, Duncan, played by Maharshala Ali. Always a welcome face. He's, you know, doing great work in a movie that, you know, doesn't deserve him. She's got the mercenary crew. I mean, but it's rare for a movie to deserve him.

He's great. So, you know, it's hard to find a movie that deserves him. Yeah. She's got the mercenary crew in the boat and they, you know, extort more money from the farmer guy to do this job. And there are other characters who are just dino. So I'm not going to introduce... Don't even bother. There's French girl, Frenchish guy, other...

Yeah, the boat driver. And this is... I don't want to be too hard on the aforementioned director because I've liked his work before. But this scene down in the tropics is the one where I was texting you guys. I'm like, there's so much like unmotivated camera movement, like edits that I don't...

Like, they will cut just away to like a far shot, you know, of them like with the sun setting in the background It's a beautiful shot, but I was just thinking about, like, none of the, like, it all feels like they just got a bunch of shots. They threw them together, you know, like, they didn't have the time to do what Spielberg does, which is, like, plan the blocking. So the movements of the characters, like, emphasize, like, shifting dynamics and, like, the shots mean something. It was just, like, I don't know, like, the fact that was just an exposition dump made me hyper aware of, like, What is going on here with the camera? Yeah, the camera movements are just like, hey, well, it's a movie.

So let's just put a bunch of images, like different versions of looking at the same thing. It's a movie, so we have to move around. Anyway, so we get a-all-it-stand-stilly. Yeah, no. On the boat, we get a little explainer about how they're going to collect this dino material. They've got these darts that they shoot into the dynos, and then, like, the canister pops out. It comes out a little parachute.

Yeah, it pops out a little parachute. And luckily, luckily, it always pops out in a place they can catch it easily when it's descending throughout the movie. That's something they never have to deal with that like it gets stuck somewhere in a tree branch or something like that. Or they don't have to like jump for it or something.

Yeah. We get more tragic backstory between Scarjo and Mahershala and it's just all like super wrote like we lost somebody and it does not get me to care about them anymore. Well also I feel like they are it is a they are mercenaries, right? And it's never, it's, I think it is supposed to be cool, kind of how vague they are about some of the stuff they're talking about.

But if it was made clear that these are like, they do rescues, you know, or they do something that's specific to a good thing. But it's like, yeah, we lost that friend on that mission. It's like, I don't know what you were doing. Were you doing some kind of black ops mission for Blackwater where you're killing a bunch of civilians in Afghanistan? Like, I don't know, man. Like it was, I found it very hard to be sympathetic to these characters knowing that their work

involves going into dangerous situations and I don't know, doing what? Like, I don't know what they're up. Are they like world-class extractors like Tyler Rake in the extraction franchise? Exactly, exactly. And so I wondered if it was another one of the things where I'm like,

Or my dentist? I wonder if at some point. Tyler Rakes your dentist? I wonder if at some point these were harder-bitten characters that were then going to like find their humanity through this adventure or something like that.

But instead, they're just kind of soft from the beginning. and it was very hard for me to buy the idea of, like, again, this lovable team of mercenaries, you know? Yeah, like, everybody is basically nice-coded in this movie, with the exception of the guy who is Paul Reiser-coated. And the one mercenary who's like the weapons guy who doesn't care or something, but he gets killed so early.

Immediately, yeah. Well, speaking about not caring about characters, we meet the Delgado family. Oh, my God. They're sailing nearby. We get Ruben Delgado and his... his daughter is Teresa and Isabella now I'm sure you guys were thinking the same

thing that I was are they named as an homage to the comic book artist Ricardo Delgado who did the Age of Reptiles comic book series which is a great set of series that are just stories of dinosaurs and their dinosaurs don't talk like going to work what like going to work no not going to do

the work of like eating hunting things but I was like I was like if this is a tip of the head to Ricardo Delgado that's okay so you guys really think of the same thing right probably were also there is Xavier Teresa's boyfriend who Ruben the Dead

is not into because he's kind of a layabout I mean to be honest he's a pretty he's a pretty crappy kind of like teen boyfriend you know at this point he seems to be

but he proves himself later on of course so why guys why are these guys here what's the point I don't know you gotta have some civilians

to have in danger you got to have some kids in danger that's the Jurassic Park way I don't know there's something about like we've already been introduced to the main thrust of the story.

And then all of a sudden we're like, yeah, and then there's this family that's going across the ocean. And especially because they made such a big deal out of, well, this is this belt around the, this equatorial belt that people are not supposed to go into. It is illegal to go close to Dinosaur Island. And then there's a family that's like, yeah, we do it all the time.

We're just kind of crossing the Atlantic or whatever. If we're going to bring other characters in, let me pitch what I will argue is a more interesting idea. Okay. They get to the island. There's some people who have been living there, like surviving who are like thank god someone's come to rescue us and like oh like we're not actually here for you but sure well like you know if you want to would it would it be yeah i wonder if

there's i don't know anyway never mind forget what i said dan you're great i'll try i don't know if i can i don't i'll forget but i'll never forget but i appreciate it but it feels like either like changing the characters that we're dealing with or reorienting the story or like it feels like there's a there's kind of two movies that are slammed into each other yeah at this and it's not quite they're not quite the same they don't quite mesh as the well they should but I don't know

But anyway So there's a big whale dino that overturns their sailboat And Xavier is trapped inside That's that well That's the one that It does have a sail or it doesn't have a sail It has a sail

Well the so there's the sinosaurs That are helping the mosesore They're like the silver surfer to the mosesores Galactus and then mosesore That's right he knocks over the boat This is also the highly controversial idea that Spinosaurus was an aquatic dinosaur, you know, whether the evidence supports that. I'm not so, I'm not so sold on it. But yeah, the Mosasaur tips them over and pours them out as if they were a teapot short-savir's trapped inside the capsizing boat.

But he's, you know, the first time he sort of proves his metal a little bit, he gets the emergency bag and gets back to the ship. On the other boat Jonathan Bailey and Scarjo Bond over her crying. Just being hot. I mean, just being two hotties, yeah. And they pick up the Delgado's distress call and all of the evil-coded characters

don't want to help. No. But our heroes, of course, want to pick them up. And the whale dino resurfaces, we get the first attempt at getting a blood sample. Again, not an actual dino, just marine reptile. Yeah, marine reptile.

The big aquatic reptiles, blood sample is successfully collected. They did it. How exciting was this sequence, guys? Not very. Other dinoes attacked the ship, killing one of the first extraneous character, and there's a lot of shots of people hanging off of boats

and dinoes snapping at them. At this point, they've scooped up the family, the Delgado family, right? Oh, yeah, yes. They've already rescued the Delgado's. I don't know why I got so irrationally annoyed when immediately these teenagers are like, You gotta take us

You gotta rescue us You gotta take us back somewhere I'm like Guys, just get rid of these people I don't want that here So you're saying is the film is not doing The film's not doing its job Of making you sympathize with these characters

And want to see them survive No, I'm like Get me to that Dino Island I don't want to deal with these kids Well good news Stuart That is a good point though That anything in a movie about a Dino Island Anything that is delaying your arrival

to the Dino Island Better be super fun and exciting and enjoyable because all you're going to be thinking otherwise is like when do we get to that Dino Island that's a good point. Yeah. Yeah.

Well, it seems like Rupert Friend feels the same way. Teresa tries to radio for help, but he stops her to keep the mission secret and the scuffle. She falls off the boat and he does not help pull her back up. But Xavier, the boyfriend.

And at that point you were watching it was like, yeah, yeah, you go Rupert, you did it. She later on is accusing him of trying to kill her and I'm like, I don't, I feel like that's a stretch. I feel like he's being unfairly tarred with a murder by inaction. That's the sort of, I mean, that's the philosophical question. Is that murder if it is through inaction, rather through actual action, is allowing someone to be? Inaction in the middle of a dino attack?

I mean, my mistake, marine reptile attack. Thank you. I think that he has, like, I don't think a jury in the world would be. I mean, he did accidentally also push her off off the boat. Again, I feel like that's easily defended. I mean, it is less cut and dry than later when he has them all at gunpoint. Oh, here on, Mr. Dinosaur, defender. I mean, it's not like...

Now, not some big city dinosaur. I'm a green reptile. It's not murder one. Maybe it's not the best man. Maybe I wouldn't want him to marry my daughter. That's not a crime in these parts. I think a manslaughter conviction would not be out of order for that perhaps, but I don't know. We can get that.

knock down even more. Yeah, I'm sure. He's going to be doing community service for a month. That's it. Yeah. Anyway, the Delgado's all jump in after her and the boat tries to...

They go, wee! Tries for safety and shallow water, but the dinos push them to rocks, causing them to crash. This was a very funny strategy on the part of Mahershal Ali, which is, oh, these things are chasing us.

We better escape them by crashing the boat so we can't use it anymore. It was good thing. I don't think that was the reason of the strategy. Anyway, another extraneous character gets killed. RIP lady mercenary who's not scarleto. I think that's kind of a fun, that's a fun sequence where she, like, drags this big thing on the beach.

And she, like, goes around to, like, secure it or something. And in the background, we see the Spinosaur, like, wake up and then, like, wander back there. And then just a bunch of screams. Yeah. Yeah. We get a pair of... But for anyone, anyone who likes to watch movies where women wear kind of, like, overalls, That's where you're interest in this movie ends.

Yeah, yeah. No other women wear overalls throughout the rest of the movie. We're learning a little bit about Elliot's kinks, I guess. Yeah, what's her name? Gadget. What's the... Gadget hack wrench? Thank you.

No, she doesn't wear overalls, though. It's more of it. Yeah, it's a jumpsuit. It's sort of a mechanics jumpsuit. In the overalls community, we're very clear about that. I feel like Elliot attend some meetings, like in the Ulysses chapter, Cillin Sharibdis, where he argues about cartoon characters' fucking outfits. Exactly.

We in the Oshkosh-Kosh-Moguner community, though, are very particular. We get some info here. Farmer guy reveals this is where Ingen abandoned all of the genetically engineered mutant cross-be breeds that were too ugly for the park. They're like, yeah, people got tired of regular dinosaurs. They started making mutants. And then they were like, whoa, too much. So they dropped them off on a hideo island over here. Ugo Dino Island, we called it.

They should have called, so that big dinosaur is called the Distortis Rex, which is a pretty good band name. But they should have called it the Ogosaurus Rex. That would have been great, yeah. Zora reveals that a rescue copter is supposed to come for them at sunset the next day if they don't hear from them. So they've got their escape plan. Very specific timing, yeah. Meanwhile, the Delgadoes have survived, made it ashore they decide to follow some pipes to the abandoned complex looking for a radio. and there's a lot of like just kind of

inconsequential walking around. Yeah. The little girl does get like a little dino friend. I like that part. She adopts a little baby divil named Dolores.

It's like a little proto-sarotops type dinosaur. Yeah, I'm into that. The mercenary team finds a couple of giant dynos doing kind of a love dance in a field. So these are these titanosaurus

and this was... It's crazy with these like bonkers like Inu-Yasha-style tails twisting around. Yes. that their tails are so incredibly flexible. Their tails are like ribbons, basically. Like their tails are ribbons or kimono sashes, whatever.

And they, all these dinosaurs want to do is caress. And it was like, it went from being, oh, these dinosaurs show affection, I guess, to being like, oh, I'm trapped at a party and I'm sitting next to these two that cannot keep their hands off each other and are just kind of like caressing and kind of like lightly touching each other. And even when the dinosaurs get stuck with a dart and their blood is being pumped out of them, They still do not notice because they're so horny for each other. It's part of the thing. The Titanosaurs Cuddle Puddle just can't just go and.

Well, they're so big. I assume that that dart is not much of, uh... I guess so. But this scene goes on for a very long time. Yeah. And this is after, and uh, Dr. Henry Loomis is like having this transcendent moment of ecstasy. Yeah, he's blasting. And it's like, and I don't know if you guys had this thing and I was like, didn't, you remember

like a couple people died just like 50 minutes ago, 45 minutes. ago. Like, it seems like these characters have completely forgotten what they were just went through, you know. But maybe that's the experience of seeing two titanosaurus's necking. Or, you know. Or they could make a moment of being like, wow, he's really into this, even though our friends just died.

But like, yeah, I don't know. Or put a point on it. Like, you know what, this is, even though that just happened, this is magical, you know, or they, you know, it brings me, suddenly this is what life is all about, you know, it puts into contrast, you know, sharp contrast what we've been doing or, I don't know. But it just seems like the movie was like, we don't care about it. about those people, you don't care about those people.

Let's move on to these dinosaurs. It's like that scene in Honey I Shrunk the Kids where they're like, yeah, we're all super shrunk and it's terrifying. But look at how magical a giant ant is, right? Yeah, yeah. I mean, nobody has died by that point in Honey, I Shrunked the kids.

It'd be different if one of the kids... If like one of the kids drowned in a... Or any point. If one of the kids drowns in a puddle and they're like, oh shit. And then they see a giant aunt and they're like, cool! Yeah, they just...

Oh, shit. Then the movie called Honey I Killed the Kids. That would be a different movie, yeah. Oof. Hard to come back from that. No. I mean, even Honey I Sharned the Kids was hard to come back from. Have you seen Honey I blew up the kid?

Yeah. You could still make Honey I blew up the kid, but it would be a little bit different. Two out of three of the giant dinoes have, we've got their DNA. We did it. One left. They're going to have to climb this cliff for that. Again, only one of these dinos is an actual dino. The other two are just prehistoric reptiles.

Meanwhile, the Delgado's find a raft, which they start taking down river after the, after Bella shoes off her baby Dino, Dolores. They narrowly escape a T-Rex along the way. I like the sequence. What did you guys think about this one? Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is one of the better sequences. The lead-up was good. I mean, again, it ties into one of the, the we're weirder things, the way that we, you know,

we were introduced as a culture to T-Rexes by that sequence in the first drafts. classic park where just its footsteps caused ripples. I'm going to nitpick slightly that Tyrannosaurus rex was already a part of people knew about it. No, it's not even the first movie with an iconic Tyrannosaurus rex in it. But like really in film, I feel like, and is that moment where just its footsteps are causing ripples. And so ever since then, they're like, instead, they are the stealthiest creature in the universe. I mean, even by the end of that movie, as we all know, the dinosaurs managed to sneak up behind them at the end, but, and eat that raptor.

But you're right, there's a, the Tyrannosaur, that, even with the Titanosaurs, they're like, yeah, we're going over a hill, da-da-da, and then suddenly a Tristanosaur, like, head lifts up and they're like, we had no idea that these huge dinosaurs are here and, like, it's a movie, whatever,

that in real life, you would hear them, you would smell them, like you'd feel the tremors in the ground, like the soropods in particular, they were probably farting all the time because they had huge guts where things would just ferment for forever and break down.

But you're right, the Tyrannosaurus, literally it's like, I mean, the fact that it's napping, so they don't see it at first because it's napping, but like it can move so stealthily in this movie. It's true. But I will say there's something about, maybe it's the fact, I like the sequence, and I think it's done, I think it's staged really in a fun way. But also, you can't deny it. Tyrannosaurus is a super charismatic dinosaur in the way that, like, the new dinosaurs, they just don't got it in this movie the same way. And when you see Tyrannosaurus, you're like, oh, shit, that's a movie star dinosaur. Like, even though he's only in the one scene. You're like, they're brought in the big guns for this guy.

And he's, like, treated like a giant animal, whereas some of the other ones are treated like, oh, this is a crafty villain. Yes, especially by the end when there's a, there's that dinosaur that I think is just like a, or that terrorsor that's a made-up kind of like weird dinosaur-terosaur hybrid. The one that the other characters describe as being a mutant as shit, I believe. Yes, exactly.

And that one is, like, it's like, will not give up stalking them, even when it has to squeeze into time. to get after them. It's like, no, it's not going to do this. Come on, guys. Whereas you're right, the transaurus has more kind of animal behavior, which I think is more fun.

But let's return to our mercenaries. You never see it with its crush, just kind of just nuzzling for a hundred hours. The others are repelling down this cliff to get a sample from an egg, from a nest in like an ancient temple on the side of the cliff. This was a funny addition that there's just an ancient Indiana Jones style temple. Yeah, they don't really get into it.

But Mama Bird comes back home and kills the last remaining extraneous character during the scene. And in my opinion, like you were talking about you like that last sequence. This is my favorite sequence of the movie because it had a bit of that like, you know, I keep bringing Spielberg up because of the original Jurassic Park, but it had a bit of that Spielberg thing where like multiple things are going on within the scene because they're all on ropes. So like when one of them gets knocked down, like someone gets pulled over somewhere else and there, and there's also trying to get the genetic material, which is about to fall off the cliff.

So they have to try and get that while being, like, whipped around. Yeah. And I found that a lot more fun. I was a little disappointed that they didn't do something. Because at one point, the terosaur, like, swallows a guy that has a rope attached to him. And I was hoping that the fact that it now has this rope hanging out of its mouth would be some element in the, but it doesn't really.

I thought the same thing. I was like, oh, now they're trying to get away from it. but it is literally attached to them. So they can't, you know, but it's, they didn't do anything with it. That would have been cool. But I think you're right, Dan, that, oh, this one has more of that feel of, like,

there's something going on over here, there's something going on over here, there's different elements that are interacting. And they affect each other. Yeah. Yes. Like Indiana Jones with the truck or something like that. Yeah.

Or rather, Indiana Jones punching that, fighting that big Nazi while the plane is kind of turning around because Marians inside of it, that kind of thing. Yeah, it's kind of like one of the best actions he gets us of all time. If you squint really hard. It's kind of reminiscent. I mean, in the same general mechanics and principles, I guess. Jonathan Bailey falls off the cliff, but it falls broken by branches and water.

This was hard to believe. We don't have to, guys, don't worry, we don't have to name a new people's sexiest man alive. He can still serve. Is Donald Pleasant still alive? No, unfortunately. He is not even injured by this incredible fall, which I found unbelievable. And this is a movie that asked me to believe that there are mutant dinosaurs

roaming around in an island that also has a gas station with a working radio or at least sound system, you know. But the Delgadoes, they make it to the facility, the engine facility where they meet the team of mercenaries.

And Teresa, of course, tells everyone, hey, this dude is bad. Evil farmer man is evil and left her to die. Which the other thing is, I'm like, these mercenaries wouldn't, they shouldn't, On some level, they shouldn't be expected to care

because, like, they took this fucking suicide mission for a lot of money. Just for the money. Yeah. So it should be a surprise that they care, I feel like, I don't know. Or, I mean, there's a version of this where, yeah, where at that moment it is a surprise even to them that they care or it's a surprise to the bad guy that they care.

Like, something, it feels like there's a, you know, what, I don't necessarily believe that every story needs like a clear character emotion arc, but for this movie, I think it would make it stronger if any of the characters had any sort of clear emotional arc and one of I'm taking this mission I'm so hard but I'm so hardened by my life as a mercenary I don't give a shit about anything and all I care about is the money

and you go on this mission and there's innocent people and you're like I can't believe I've got to deal with these fucking people this whole time like this is such a this is getting in my way and then by the end of it you're like no actually it's more important me to protect these people than it is to fulfill this contract like that's an arc at least but that might be a harder buy for Scarlett Johans to then be the star of your movie

to play character who's an asshole for two-thirds of the film you know, I don't know. You're saying she was a huge asshole on a marriage story though, right, Dan? I still haven't seen that movie. Dan, you were saying

why did the movie keep taking the villain's point of view? Have seen. That's a great movie marriage story. I think it's really great. You know what? It came out when I myself was getting divorced

so I'm like, I'll skip this for now and then I never circled back. Anyway, pharma guy, Rupert friend, That's why I missed the earlier Jurassic Worlds because I was planning trips to Jurassic World and I didn't want to get booked over by dino. There's a dino infestation at Hintralins

and you're like, it can't too much. I'm just sick of dynos at this point. That's why the museum shut down because you cancel your membership. Yeah. But Ubert Friend has a gun. He handcuffs all the... Wait, hold on.

Let me just finish this sentence. Was that supposed to be the Museum of Natural History in New York that was shutting up? They have more things there than just dinosaurs, you know. I don't know. They just opened that... It's an armor and shit, right? No, that's not, no, that's at the Metropolitan Museum.

There's nothing like, so you gotta stop taking your understanding from the night at the museum movie, which is not accurate to the Museum of Natural History. It is so unimportant in this point, but just because it comes up later, Rupert Friend handcuffs all the genetic stuff to his wrists. So he's got the suitcase. And he has a gun and he's being mean to them.

I've seen enough movies like this to know that arm ain't staying attached to his bizati. I could go for a bazadei right now. Mama Mia. Yeah, like Mandebred. It's more kind of like a Jewish Vizsat. Yeah. The power sort of like the generator like comes on the facility and stand by me starts playing,

which I kind of like just like a little like creepy moment of like suddenly there's music here. But they don't linger on it. They don't like allow any creepiness to build like immediately dinosaurs just like chill. I don't know about that. Should have been walk the dinosaur, right? Because the song is literally saying open the door, but they don't want to open the door. No, and they don't want to get on the floor either.

No. Or something by T-Rex, you know. They hide in various buildings. Dolores, the baby dinosaur, shows up again, just as the Delgado's hide from, like, I guess, modified raptors, and they escape through a drainage pipe. Looking at the Wikipedia, it describes this as a mutadon, a hybrid rapture terasaur.

Thank you. So now, how do you feel about these mutadons, Elliot? Yeah, how do you feel about them? What do they make you feel? To be honest, I mean, this was where I was having trouble. The first two words should be, I feel. Thank you. Well, that's what I said.

I feel. Thanks. Thank you for giving me the prompt. Watching the movie, I was torn because I was like, I love monsters. I love any kind of crazy monster. Like, I like seeing movies where monsters are chasing people. But at a certain point, these characters just become dragons.

Like, they have modified them so much that it's just dragon. and there was so there was still part of me that was like I wanted dinosaurs in my dinosaur movie I don't want dragons in my dinosaur movie and so maybe that's unfair and kind of like I feel like if you're going to mutate them they got to be way weirder they need like technical faces and I don't know because they try that with the distortis wrecks where it's like a weird thing and even that at a certain point then it's like well now it feels like there's an alien after these people and I feel like if you're trying to tell me dinosaurs are cool then give me cool dinosaurs doing cool stuff

as opposed to like we got to make a new thing like it's the same way that like if you were going to make a movie about George Washington you weren't going to be like you know what let's make it so that he can fly

or even the recent Frankenstein but what we're already dealing your issue is just that they have mutants at all I'm saying if you're going possibly it's already built baked in that we have mutants I'm saying make them fucking crazy they go all the way

but it's kind of like I was watching the Guillermo del Toro Frankenstein and there was a lot of stuff in it that I liked. But there are times when Frankenstein is just throwing people around where I'm like, well, this is kind of like a superhero movie right now. And it's not what I want a gothic romance, not necessarily superhero action. Yeah, yeah.

The moments where he's like, he's just misunderstood. I'm like, he blasted that dude to fucking hell with one punch. Like, I think at this point you're like, I mean, by that point he's been pretty mistreated by the world. There's also a couple points where he's just, he's just fighting people and all he has to do is go, hey, stop, because he doesn't look that weird. He's just at by the end of it when he's got long hair He's just a big scarred up guy

So he can just go, hey, wait, don't shoot me He's super hot And he else is all super, I mean, even when he's new He's super hot If you go to Tumblr, there's got to be like So much horny Frankencise stuff already I'm just saying like, this dude shows up

And immediately punches guys heads off And the captain's like, oh no, I'll hear him out This guy's fine You know what? He's got a good story He goes, they're like We've got to kill the monster he goes, look, I've been captaining the ship for so long.

I'm so bored of you people. A new person just walked in with a story to tell. I want to hear it. I want to fucking spill the tea. Give me the gossip. So I was torn because I like monsters, but I really want to dinosaurs. Stewart's saying, muting them up even more.

Dan, what was your feeling about these kind of mutant dinosaurs? I mean, either of your ways would be better. Talk about Avatar over here. This is the one. This is one of the few times where I'm like, no, don't take the middle path.

Dane's kind of like the Jake Sully of the podcast. Elliot is Spider, of course. What other characters are there? I don't know. Like Youngs and Gornie Weaver. I still haven't seen any of those movies. I don't know any of these.

I know Jake Sully is, but. I think I might have told this story before. Every time I tried to see the original Avatar in the theaters, someone in my family either had to go, have surgery or died and like I tried to go the first time and my uncle had a heart attack and I was like all right I can't I have to go visit him in the hospital and then I bought tickets to see it and that day my my fiancee now wife's grandfather died and she was like it's okay you can go to the movie I know you want to see it and I was like uh that's not that's not gonna be like yeah

that's terrible your grandfather died to go to the good movie but I decided I was like something doesn't want me to see it that bad you know I don't want to know what is the escalation from that I feel there is that does not love an avatar. I feel like a journey to the land of Pandora will kind of help you come to terms with your grief and the concept of somebody's spirit kind of passing on to kind of join a collective.

And I think you would actually really, it would have really helped. Yeah, okay. Now I see what you're saying. So I should have seen Avatar no matter how many members of my family had to pay for it. But also, like, I would love it if, like, you just jump in now.

You just go to see number three now without having seen the other ones. Just see what you think. It looks pretty intense. But let's get back to this movie where... Oh, right, right. Jonathan Bailey and... Geravitar World.

Marshall Ali are in the lab we saw in the cold open. They find out there's a tunnel that leads to a boat. But before that, the helicopter arrives, they all run for it. But the giant mutant dino from the opening reappears. I do love this bit. It eats the copter in midair. I do love this bit because these guys are like,

oh, well, nobody's here. Let's go home to our families and be safe. forever. And they're like, nope, Jonathan Bailey shot a flare. Let's go get eaten. Everyone escapes in the funnel, the tunnel, the tunnel.

They get to a tunnel. I mean, a tunnel is kind of like a funnel in a way. Or a funnel is like a tunnel that just gets narrower. Yeah. Except for a farmer villain who abandons everyone, races for the boat in a Jeep. They're stopped by gate, but Isabella squeezes through to try and open it.

Do you like the bit where this Jeep keeps alerting him that there's pedestrians in the road and the pedestrian's always dinosaurs? I honestly, I enjoyed that. I thought that was funny, yeah. There's a pedestrian ahead of you, and it's the distortus wrecks, yeah. Xenomorph dino looks like it's going to eat them all.

Let's describe it. It's like a xenom, it's like a rancor body shape. It's got big hands with arms. Yeah. But it also has two extra little arms, and it's got a weird. Like an alien bullethead, yeah. The only thing is,

like a tumor on its head or something. The only thing is, if you're going to go, you're going to start going a little bit wild with the design, you want a little more stuff there. So, like, if you're going to put an extra set of little arms, have those little arms doing weird shit. Yeah. Like, have them doing stuff.

It looks like the mutant dino might eat them all, but the pharma villain arrives just in time to be a distraction and get eaten himself. But luckily, his arm gets bitten off first so they can get the sample case. Ali uses a flare to distract the mutant dino to save the other swimming away underwater. while they get in the boat.

So he's briefly missing, presumed a dino-eaten except immediately he reappeared. He shows up with no explanation as to how he avoided the big, bad, worst dino monster of the movie. Yeah. Which was literally about to eat

moments away from eating him. Yeah, it's like yada, yada, yada. You're not interested in the details of how this happened. You don't care. You just don't want to see Merchali die. We understand. We'll just have him get out of there, you know.

Yeah. I mean, I feel like, do you think that, like, how much better would you have liked it if it cut away and you assumed he was dead and then it cut back and he like does something awesome to get away like would you want to see him doing something awesome or is it better to imagine something awesome would i want him to see him do something awesome yeah sure yeah well what i don't want is like the movie to be like uh oh he's definitely going to die and then with no explanation like no no he's a nice character so of course we can't kill him

here he is not since not since rise of skywalker when chubaka gets into a spaceship the spaceship explodes and they go, oh, no, Chewbacca. And then the next scene is Chewbacca being led into a room as a prisoner. And they're like, uh-huh, he's not dead. Like, it was like, all right, you're not going to, there's no suspense. There's, you don't let us feel the emotion. There's no explanation. It doesn't matter, you know.

Anyway, we're at the final scene. Also, I will say, wait, I just, I'm just realizing this. If you were trying to make mutant dinosaurs and you're a heartless corporation, you're a heartless corporation. New Damichoy, you're a heartless corporation. You're trying to make mutant dinosaurs. you have one that is too ugly and too disgusting to put in public display, would you, A, kill that dinosaur or B, they say in the movie, they're like, they're like, it's too expensive to kill these dinosaurs.

And it's like, I don't understand. Either way, either way, it's a loss on the books. So I don't understand why killing it, what keeping alive means that you can write it off as a business expense. Thinking you can't. That thing probably eats a ton of stuff, right? Yeah, exactly. Whereas if you kill it, you can eat it.

Yeah. That's a good one. So it's actually a good point, Dan. Yeah. Anyway, so they're all boating away, including baby, baby, baby, baby, baby, baby, baby, Dino. And Scarjo and Jay Bales decide to release the medical. I feel like Baybo Dino is the kind of character you would see

in like the American version of heavy metal where it's like a sexy dinosaur woman. Yes. Who, like, rides a motorcycle around in a bulk of Arctic future. Oh, man. But our, Mike, yeah, it's European. So it's actually really deep. and important. It's actually really philosophical

even though it's mostly just this dinosaur woman killing guys and then having sex with them. Our leads decide to release... In that order, yeah. They decide to release the medical info open source rather than getting

their huge payday. Open source. They open a thosaurus. They open a thesaurus, and that's a dinosaur with thes. We tried to breed a thesaurus. We tried to made a dictionary with a Tyrannosaurus Rex. It's full of words that mean the

Same thing inside. Anyway, the nightmare's over. They cut it open all the words come spilling out, yeah. Oh, there's no bloops. I didn't even check if there are any bloops. Yeah, I checked if there are bloops. Is there a mid-credit scene?

No. I'm including that under the umbrella of bloops. The bloops has expanded in its meaning. I don't like this. That's like calling a marine reptile dinosaur. I don't like this, yeah. So, Jurassic Park Rebirth, Jurassic World, rather. I kept calling it Jurassic Park Rebirth.

and not Jurassic World. And it just shows what the, to me at least, in my mind, being a kid in 1903, what a huge cultural impact Jurassic Park had on me and how relatively minor the Jurassic World One is that even though this movie is called Jurassic World Rebirth, in my head and in my conversations with people, I keep referring to it as Jurassic Park Rebirth.

Like, it's just, that's what I think of it as, you know? Yeah, certainly. Well, our final judgments on Jurassic World Rebirth, which I see now I'm like looking I'm looking ahead at my like letters question email I emailed myself and it says letters cues for JPR I didn't even put J.WR yeah anyway um so our final judgments is this a good bad movie a bad bad movie or movie kind of like it's a bad bad bad movie I got really kind of angry at this movie not because it's like the worst made thing in the world but just because it's like

It felt like the most bankrupt thing. Like, it just, there is no clear reason why this was made, and thus it was boring to watch. That's my review. Stuart. Yeah, I mean, guys, why is it so hard to make a fucking movie with dinosaurs, apparently? Like, it should be super cool and exciting.

As a kid, there's nothing in my life that I was more interested in than dinosaurs. So you should be able to easily put dinosaurs in a movie and make it super exciting. But for some reason, it's impossible. I think maybe that's the hard part is that dinosaurs are instantly so much more interesting than anything that the human characters can be doing most of the time. And I think that the first Jurassic Park, one of the things that's so great about it, is that all those characters are, what you're doing is you are experiencing through them the wonder and the excitement of seeing a dinosaur for the first time. And now that the seal is off that, you can never do that again. And when they try to do it here, it feels like, yeah, yeah, we saw this happen in Jurassic Park. but it means that you've got to figure out how to make those characters as interesting or as compelling as the dinosaurs, which is really hard to do, which is just tough to do.

Yeah. But this is, I'm going to call it bad bad bad just because of our categories. It's like this movie is fine. It's not a terrible movie. It's just like it's hard to make the, what is this, like the seventh movie in the series or something? It's hard to the seventh movie in a series when the first movie is great. It's hard. It's just, it feels, I think the people who made it.

Do you have any affection for any of the other? Not really. I mean, Jurassic Park 3 is kind of fun. Yeah. And the sequence of Jurassic Park 2 where the transverse is loose in California or whatever is kind of fun. Well, also the, what do you call it, the trailers over the cliff in Lost World is also a great sequence. Yeah, that's fun too. But I think that the, it's just so hard to match that original movie, but also, like we were saying, everyone who's making this movie has done great work before.

There's no one, this is not one of those times where someone who is, who shouldn't be doing this movie is doing it. And I think you just have to ask yourself kind of like, yeah, why? I think the question that was never fully asked was, why are we doing this movie? Like, what makes it special again? And I think, or maybe they asked that question, they just didn't hit on quite the right answer for it. I don't know. But that's, to make a Jurassic movie, you've got to figure out what makes this special now, because we've got so many of them. And it's the same thing that's affecting, I feel like, superhero movies, where you've got to be like, well, why does this superhero story have to be told other than we're just making more superhero stuff?

and it's harder and harder from them to answer that question. Ooh, soupy sales was eating a radioactive bowl of soup and became a soupy hero is the power of soup, yeah. Why don't? I'm calling it bad, bed.

But it's fine. Why was he called soupy sales? I think it's just a silly name. Oh, okay. That's an answer, sure. I wish there was more to it than that, yeah. Thanks for tuning in to 101.1 Max Fun. It's midnight here on Host to Coast,

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So if you're following Lower Decks, Prodigy or Strange New Worlds, come hang out with us every Friday as we roast and review our favorite Star Trek shows. It's on maximum fun.org, YouTube, or your podcatching app. Let's do some plugs. Elliot, I believe there's some plugs for us, the Flop House that you are in charge of. We have some plugs, and I don't just mean hair plugs from my rapidly balding head.

We have some Flop House stuff that we're going to do. Should I get hair plugs right into the Flop House? Let me know. As always, Flop TV continues. It's the first Saturday of every month, September through February. When this episode drops, I believe we will be be doing our flop TV episode tonight on Saturday, January 3rd for Dr. Doolittle, the 1960s

version, because this is Flopster Peace Theater. This season, we are going back in time. We started with the 2000s, with the Avengers of Pluto Nash, and we've been going decade by December. Last month, we did Zardaz, a movie that I think I love after watching it again. But now we're doing Dr. Doolittle, a movie that I barely tolerated. And so we'll be talking about that tonight. January 3rd on FlopTV,

go to theflophouse. simpleticks.com for anyone who hasn't heard these ads or seen Flop TV. Flop TV is the one-hour TV version of the Flop House. You get us talking about a movie, but you also get a presentation,

you get a video segment, you get an opening video, you get actual produced elements, and we answer questions from the viewers at the end of the show. They're super fun. I love doing them. Everyone always has a good time.

So that's theflophouse. Simpletix.com. If you missed the season up till now, that's okay. If you buy tickets to those episodes, you get access to the recordings, which will stay online and available through the end of February. Because in January, it's

Dr. Doolittle, and in February, it is Plan 9 from Outer Space, a movie we have never covered, even though it's maybe the most famous bad movie that there ever was. So, that's FlopTV, theflophouse. Simpletix.com. Let's say you want to see us in person. You got one opportunity if you can get yourself to

San Francisco on January 25th. As Arnold Schwarzenegger says, get to the chopper, and by chopper, I mean San Francisco Sketchfest, we'll be appearing. You've heard of the San Francisco treat. In this case, we are the treat in San Francisco. Yes, at Sunday, January 25th, in the afternoon, 4 p.m. at Cobb's Comedy Club, we are going to be talking about the movie, Master of Disguise, right?

Starring Dana Carvey. Right, Elliot says, with trepidation. With trepidation, am I getting it wrong? This is one of the movies we have been asked about the most, of all the movies to do on show. So we'll be talking about it Sunday, January 25th, 2026, 4 p.m. at Cobb's Comedy Club as part of San Francisco Sketchfest. We had such a great time last year at San Francisco Sketchfest. We're so glad to be going there again. Go to sfetchfest.com for schedule and tickets. And that's SFeschfest.com to buy tickets to see us January 25th at Cobbs Comedy Club. And let's say that's not even

enough flop house for you. Let's say you wanted to read a whole chapter of a book about podcasts, and The Flop House. You can just pick up my book, Joke Farming, How to Write Comedy and Other Nonsense, by me, Elite Kalen, from the University of Chicago Press. It's available in bookstores anywhere

or buy it online. I prefer you to buy it through your independent bookstore. But if you don't have an independent bookstore nearby, get it online, maybe from an independent bookstore. But that's joke farming. There's a whole chapter in there about podcasting, or I talk about what I've learned about writing for a podcast,

or rather devising a podcast through the Flop House. And that's my book. joke farming. I'd write comedy and other nonsense. Do you guys have any things you would like to plug? Flop House or not Flop House related. Nope. No. So it's shaking his head, no. No, you know, we're just hanging out, man.

Sounds good. Just hanging out. Let's answer some letters from listeners. This first one is from Patrick's last name withheld. Who writes? Hey, Peaches. Your recent discussion of The Crow remake, a movie I've not seen, reminded me of my only experience of the 90s, The Crow, also a movie I've not seen.

One of my roommates in college thought, The Crow was the coolest movie ever made. He dressed as the titular Crow for Halloween on more than one occasion. Cool. Listen to the soundtrack a lot, et cetera. His favorite line... I wonder what that et cetera stands in for. What else can you do with The Crow?

He and his girlfriend were killed by... No, no. But he came back. Yeah. He played guitar on the roof in the rain. Yeah. His favorite line from the movie was the crow's response to being told, move and you're dead, which is, you say move and I'm dead,

but I say I'm dead and I move. I'll admit that at the time. That's deep. At the time, I thought this line ruled, but he repeated it so often that it eventually lost its luster for me. This is the opposite experience I had with. My college roommate, Brian Chan, who is still a dear friend, he liked to quote the least

memorable lines from Star Wars and so sometimes if he was like done with his work or something and he was just relaxing he'd go oh thank the maker this oil bath is going to feel so good and I just loved that that was the line he quoted all the time

I still love it when he says it. Pretty great anytime it has like a bunch of fucking words you know that's a good quote so my question is are there any lines from movies you thought were amazing the first time but lost their appeal over time.

We can maybe call this the David Mammett effect because lines like, everyone needs money, that's why they call it money. Sound cool maybe when Danny DeVito says it, but end up sounding more confusing when repeated in real life. Honestly, even when I saw that in the trailer for heist,

I was like, that doesn't make any sense. I mean, I think that... It has the rhythm of a cool line, but yeah. A lot of these are just naturally going to be stuff like over-quoted shit, like, I don't know. Like, I mean, like, obviously you got your Borat's and your Austin Powers.

Yeah, you're the man. You're the man now, dog, that sort of thing. I mean, things I, I mean, like, I thought those movies were both funny at the time, but we're not, like, my favorites. But, like, also, like, Holy Grail, for instance, was a favorite of mine until it was ruined by decades of nerds. If Borat was one of your favorites, that would be such a change in how I perceived you.

I mean, I have to say, like, there was a moment when, and maybe this is, maybe this is not acceptable. I don't know. I remember seeing Borat in the theaters for the first time, and it was one of the funniest experiences I've had in terms of seeing a movie live with an audience. And I was like, this is the cutting edge of comedy right now. And to see that so quickly go from the cutting edge to, oh, this again. Okay, more of this. Yeah. Was it a dispiriting thing.

I mean, Austin Powers was kind of seeing that and being like, oh, this feels like a new thing. Like, this is a new fun thing. And it so quickly became, ugh, like more of this. I can't take it. Yeah. But what's a quote that you guys thought was cool, or meant something to you, and then it stopped meaning things to you, you know? Well, that's a harder question to answer, which is why I didn't.

Probably something from fucking Fight Club or something. Yeah, I mean, like, there's a lot of quotes out there. Or like, something from American Beauty. Stuff I liked, but then the wrong people jumped on the train, you know, like Fight Club or, you know, like the Big Lebowski. I don't know. I there's a line that um that joseph cotton has in shadow of a doubt that i used to love because it was such a i was like this is the darkest thing i can imagine from an old movie where he talks about he's talking to his niece young charlie uh who's learning that he is a serial killer it's a great movie i highly recommend it and he goes says something about like goes what do you know about the world do you know if you tear the if you rip the fronts off houses you'd find swine inside the world's a hell what does it matter what happens in it and i remember being like cool what a like, I don't agree with that. Like, what a cool, like, kind of harsh thing for a character to say,

especially in an old movie. And the older I get, the more I'm like, I don't, I'm not as attracted to darkness as I once was. And so maybe that's something that I don't find as cool as I once. I still think it's a great line for that character, that I'm no longer like, what a cool, dark thing for a character to say, you know. Yeah. This is a tough one because it requires me to both remember lines from movies

and also remember ones I don't like anymore. You have trouble in remembering whether characters rip their own ding-dongs off in movies. I think I think the record will show that I'm pretty good at that. And as we know, Dan has Jackie Chan blindness or Jackie Channesia isn't unable to remember of Jackie Chan as in movies. I mean, he's not that noticeable of a presence in most movies. That's true.

Fades into the background. Wallflower. This next letter is from Helen Mary Lynn. Wallflower sounds like a good Jackie Chan movie title. Yeah, well, a young Jackie Chan, okay, this is it. He's like, where he's like a nerd, right? But nobody knows that he's a, he's a. He's a martial arts master, you know?

Yes, perfect. Helen Mary, last name withheld, right. You may not be interested in more Patch Adams stories. Cool, don't tell us now. Just kidding. I would love to hear it. I'm compelled to share this regardless. Here is something I will never say, ever.

This is a combination of words in the English language I will never utter. I am tired of Patch Adams stories. Never. The only story of Patch Adams I'm tired of is the movie Patch Adams. Otherwise, I want to hear them all. I mean, as long as they're true. Don't start lying to us about Patch Adams. I don't need the chuck-tangle Patch Adams stories where it's obviously made up.

Anyway, a few years back, I was working in the Midwestern town where Patch lives. Central Illinois is a good place to find pawpaws, the native fruit that's sort of like if a mango and an overripe banana had a baby. And a friend organized a bike ride to go visit and harvest the paw-paw trees around town. Halfway through the tour, our leader stopped to warn us that the next stop would be a live. unusual we rolled up a long gravel driveway leading to a house some outbuildings and a pawpaw tree suddenly the door to the house flew open and outran a man entirely naked except for a diaper with his belly and chest painted blue he threw himself to the ground by the pawpaw tree we had entered the movie krippendorf's tribe by accident he threw himself to the ground by the

pawpaw tree and wailed papa papa don't take my pawpaw away from me i have never seen the movie Patch Adams, did not realize it was based on a real person, and don't think I would recognize them with clothes on. Your pal, Helen Mary, last year ago. So that was Patch Adams, who was doing that. Yep, that's our old friend, Patch Adams. So I'm weird and weirder with every story. This raised a lot more questions, because did the rest of the group, like, break into laughter at that? Were they, like, going insane?

Yeah, was that supposed to be, what, the joke of it was the play on words or the, yeah. I guess so. I mean, also like you saying... They all laughed and then he went, you're cured. Take them away. Pa, pa, pa. So that explains the diaper,

but why is he blue, too? Because he's sad that he's losing his pawpaws. Oh, okay. Exactly. He's blue. Dubbo-dee. That's what the song was about, actually, if you listen to lyrics.

Well, I guess it all fits together. Now what do we do on this podcast, Danny Boy? Now is when we... I just want to say, again, Everyone, if you have a Patch Adams story, you need to send it in. Thank you. We're collecting them for the Patch Adams Oral History Project. It's NPR and StoryCorps, and we'll be collecting them all.

I assume into a leather-bound volume, which will then be jettisoned into the sun. Now is when we recommend movies that we think might be a better use of your time than the one we watched. I'm looking through my recently watched films, and a lot of them are things that have been recommended before by Elliot. So I won't recommend those ones. Wow, that's Dan's low-key way of telling Elliot that he respects his recommendations. Yeah, I mean, I watched Night of the Juggler and Million Dollar Legs, and I liked both of them, but I, you know, I think they've been talked about already.

They've been recommended before. If we have, if we, I mean, I don't know if I've never recommended a million-dollar legs on the show, have I? It's possible not. It's possible. It's just because you did a screening back in the 92-wide Tribeca Days. That is a, that is one of the, I find to be such a funny movie. It's one of those 30s comedies where they're just like, whatever, we can do whatever.

Who cares? And it's just super silly and it kind of hell's a pop and throw everything in way, you know. Yeah. So I'm going to recommend Wake Up Dead Man, which I went out and saw in the theaters, despite Netflix's best efforts to say, don't do that anymore. I'm like, fuck you. I will. Fuck you, Netflix. I'm going to give you more money.

in a different way. And you're not going to like it. I mean, if I want to change Netflix mind about the theatrical experience, it's probably the best way of doing it. That's a very good point, actually, yeah. But, you know, I like these Benoit Blanc mysteries. You feel like definitely, like, kind of the target audience.

You have a cast of great character actors, and it's like a little bit of a who done it, a little bit of a character thing. I've got a wife who'll watch any who done it. I'm also a fan. yeah i mean like you know it's it's it's comedy it's mystery uh each of these films feels like it you know is trying to address larger themes uh this one is a little less of an ensemble piece a little more focused on uh josh connor's character but he is fantastic in it always and uh yeah i

just had a great time like this is a classic like uh the best special effect is a bunch of actors doing stuff with a fun script movie. Do you think Josh O'Connor and Daniel Craig talked about working with Luca Guadigino a bunch because they were both in Luca movies last year? Probably. They probably did bond over it. I don't see why they wouldn't.

Yeah. Man, I've been watching a pile of movies, but I think I'm going to recommend one that's close to my heart. Don't keep your movies in a pile. That's not the best way to take care of movies. Yeah, I'm going to recommend one that's close to my heart because I went and saw it with a good buddy of mine. That's right.

That is, now you three me, aka, now you see me, now you don't. Is it called now you three me by anybody or just by you? Just by me. Who was the good buddy? Was it Audrey? It was, we went to see it with Dan Nodry. It was so fun.

These movies are so silly, and they take themselves just seriously enough, but no more. And it's like, I don't know, it's like the kind of, like the big, budget action adventure, but like there's not that much action unless you count magic.

And the magic tricks are like really silly and don't really make sense. Yeah. And it has this elaborate mythology that also doesn't make sense. It's kidding to like almost fast and furious levels. I love it. I can't give enough. Yum, yum, yum. Pour it in my mouth. And in this one, you have

Rosamine Pike playing a Afrikaans like diamond mine owner. And she is like full Bond villain, she gobbles up every scene she's in with this wild Afrikaans accent that vacillates between believable to just absolutely bonkers. It's great. I love it. It's so good. And yeah, and the additions to the cast are fun. And yeah, it's, yeah, it's, I love it, two thumbs it. It was a lot of fun. I was surprised just how engaged I was seeing one of these in the theater.

Going into it, I was like, is this going to be as fun as watching these movies at the previous two and how silly they were and just being like, am I enjoying this ironically or just enjoying it? And then you realize it doesn't matter. They merge at a certain point. That's fun. I'm going to recommend a similar kind of movie. No, just kidding. It's a very different movie. I've been decided I needed, for my own purposes, I needed to go back to a movie that is a little bit of a comfort food movie for me to watch recently and see if it still provided what I wanted it to provide. And so I watched the movie, Beard.

being there, the Hal Ashby movie with Peter Sellers and Trin McLean, and watching it, I was like, yep, I still love this movie. It's still beautiful and also funny at the same time. And the fact that they're able to pull off a satire that feels very kind of like calm and stately without losing the satire or the humor is astounding to me, that it's like, it's a satirical movie that is not really calling attentions to itself or shouting the jokes or shouting its points or anything like that. And the stuff they do with, um, clips of TV shows from the 70s and things like that. For anyone who's not familiar with being there,

it is a movie about a man who has some sort of mental impairment and only knows the world through television, essentially. And he is forced out into the outside world and gets mixed up with people in Washington, D.C. And they believe that his very basic statements about gardening, because he has been a gardener his entire life,

are elaborate metaphors about the economy or whatever or emotions or things like that. and they all read into what he's saying what they basically want him to be saying to them and the question on a very basic level it's a satire of like oh this guy you know when you say something that means nothing people read things into it but at a deeper level

it becomes about like are we all just kind of like people programmed by what the media has told us to expect about the world who kind of like say things that other that don't mean anything or are not understanding what other people are saying to us And I just, I really love it.

It's a very, and it's also just a very calm movie. Like, it's a very calm, kind of like, stately, kind of like, kind of a, I don't know, just not, not upsetting movie in terms of the way it moves. So it was exactly what I needed at the time. So that's being there with Peter Sellers and Shirley McLean. I need to revisit that one because I saw that as a kid, which is probably not the ideal way. And, like, I was expecting something funnier. and I also was like

reading it more sort of on the like the basic level of a yeah yeah I get it like people think that this guy's deep when he's not you know but it's so beloved I'm sure that if I revisited it now I would find more in it to enjoy

I think so I mean it's a movie that I think especially if you're seeing it as a kid and you're familiar with Peter Sellers you're like this is going to be silly it's like not really silly yeah we're the shenanigans yeah exactly and a lot of kids are big Sellers heads

Well, I mean, I certainly was from watching Like, Pink Panther Films at the... I think it's a very controlled movie And so I think to see the stuff that's in it Sometimes it might take an adult eye, you know. And I find there are moments in that I find genuinely very beautiful, you know, which is not something I can say for a lot of A lot of comedies, you know, where it's like, oh, this moment

becomes beautiful and not in the way of... Like a Bore at Naked Wrestling sequence? I mean, there is something beautiful about that Bore at Naked Wrestling sequence, to be honest, but this is beautiful in a different way. but the not in the way of like well to make this comedy respectable we've got to make it suddenly sad and this movie has an autumnal feel to it and there's a sadness to it but it's not a it's not like you're not seeing characters like kind of screaming and crying and proving that they are that they can do drama you know or something like that so um well guys that's uh the the the flop house for this uh week i believe unless i'm mistaken and if i am mistaken then i'm mistaken then i'm I apologize to everyone for lying to you. But I think this might be the first full episode of the new year. We're recording this slightly ahead of time.

That's why Dan is uncertain. It's not because Dan has dementia and doesn't remember what time of year it is. So did you make a New Year's resolution, Dan? How's your resolution going so far? I don't believe in New Year's resolutions. I think. Every day's resolution. Because they believe in you.

Yeah. Oh, well, thank you. you know what is it is it is it let's get to the bottom of this i don't know anyway uh happy new year either way the whole point is well you know what there's no law this there's no law of us oh no did it just i can't wait could have just wrapped up the episode nope i'm allowed to do it early if i'm doing it early if i'm doing it late Happy New Year. This episode will come out in January 3rd, Dan.

You're right in the pocket. Oh, great. I did it. Have you ever heard of an unforced error? You know what? I also told you. I was like, Elliot, earlier, I was like, I told you this is going to be on January 3rd.

So I don't know why I forgot it. It's not that you forgot it, is that you immediately doubted your memory of it, your recollection of what date this will be. Yeah. Happy New Year. You know, it's been a rough one. Dan was about to perfectly land the fighter jet

onto the aircraft carrier and then he suddenly spilled hot coffee in his lap and started jerking the throttle around. It's been a rough one. Why are you drinking hot coffee in a fighter jet, Dan?

You got that mask on. You can't even get it to your mouth. I wish better times for us all including our great producer, Alex Smith. Thank you for producing us.

He goes by the name Howledotti all over the internet. Thank you to maximum fun our network. Go over to to Maximumfund.org and check out all the other great podcast on it. Stuart's shaking his

head of the turn this took. The abrupt turned back into professionalism. Boring. Dan, fuck up. Some more, please. Thank you for listening. We hope you stick with us in the new year. For the Flop House, I've been Dan McCloy. I've been Stuart Wellington.

I'm Elliot Kalen, rebirth. Bye. Okay, let's just do the thing being the podcast. Oh, that's the thing you don't. Not do the thing as in have sex with the monster from the thing. I mean. It can change any shape if you want. Danny Shave you want to have sex with the dog with tentacles.

That's your man. Guys, hear me out. Hear you out. Just release all of the bad takes as a mini. Yeah. Um, okay. I'm done chomping on mango. Calm down.

Stop giving me looks, Dan. He's giving me that fucking Damocoy stank eye. Oh, I know exactly what you're talking about. Yeah, the dank guy. Making sure it's done so we don't annoy our listeners. Okay, here we go. Dan, what we do is annoy our listeners. Maximum Fun.

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