The Flop House - The Flop House: Episode #112 - The Raven

Episode Date: October 13, 2012

0:00 - 0:36 - Introduction and SHOCKtober theme.0:37 - 31:33 - Quoth The Raven, "Wouldn't it be cool if Poe, like, fought a serial killer?!"31:34 - 36:09 - Pumpkin spice flavored final judgments36:10 - 54:18 - Flop House Movie Mailbag54:19 - 59:35 - The sad bastards recommend. 59:36 - 1:01:58 - Goodbyes, theme, and outtakes.

In tonight's episode we discuss the Raven, from the makers of That's So Raven. Hey everyone and welcome to the Flophouse, I'm Dan McCoy, I'm Stuart Wellington, and I'm Elliot Katelyn again You may notice that my voice sounds a little different have a cold. That's right Dan's going through the change Yeah, guys. How much sexier does my voice sound right now like 40% well for people who find me Sixth-sexy well when you're staring at me like you are It's like a million percent. Hey. Hey guys. How you doing? It's like a million percent. Hey, hey guys. How you doing? Well house come into your ear holes mess up your hair a little bit more So for anyone who has a contamination fetish Dan sounds sexy or do you right now?

But my cold cannot dampen my spirits because you know what is my favorite time of the year? What time is that? For the July? So, Coat, which is right now! Well, it just ended. Sorry, Dan. What did you do for Simca Tora? No, that's not it. It's October everyone. Oh! Chain Rattles!

Ah, ah, ah, lightening. Skeleton bone. Ooh, good, good, good, good. It's the holiest month on the Flophouse calendar. And the only month as far as I'm concerned on the Flophouse calendar. And the only month as far as I'm concerned on the Flophouse calendar. That's the month that we watch a slightly higher percentage of horror movies than we went in a normal month.

It's like the one month of the year that the sun is actually shining for me. Every other month, 11 months of the year, it's dim and cloudy and the leaves are rattling against the windows. I mean, that sounds like Shocktober to me. Yeah, that sounds like what October is for everybody else. But tonight we watch the movie. I wouldn't call it a horror movie per se, but it has horror themes.

I would call it a suspense thriller. Like a classy horror movie. It's got with literary overtose. Yeah, I'm a Cobb touch. And that movie. Yeah got my corn on the cob It's good one dude. Thank you. If you love put it up top McCorn on the Macon old Elliot Quoteable's Cayman over It's his notable quoteable for the night. Oh, they'll be more

This movie was called the Raven after the Edgar Allan Poe This movie was called The Raven after the Edgar Allan Poe poem of the same name. Not the bird of the same name? So it was just what like a film adaptation of a story? Oh, no. A film adaptation of many Edgar Allan Poe stories. Like a mashemop? Filtered through the laziest possible way to tell a story about a historical figure. Have them solve a series of crimes.

Okay. Yeah. So yeah, this was a... It's probably been done before, right? Yeah, George Washington PI, Abraham Lincoln, Crookfinder, Martin Van Buren, crime stopper, a lot of president stories that's not forget, let's not forget Detective Napoleon. And of course... Just one more question. And of course, this one more question.

And of course, Edison and Chimp. The one where he taught a Chimp had a solid prize with him. That was an electronic Chimp. No, no, it was just regular Edison, regular Chimp. Jack Clogman paid, played Edison. Tony Randall played the Chimp. It was their follow up to the odd couple. But yeah, it's this, so the basic premise of this movie

is that a somebody is committing murders in Baltimore in the late 1840s. Nobody has ever committed a murder in Baltimore. That's the thing. Well, he started it. He started it. So everyone who enjoyed the wire, you're welcome. You can thank this movie for starting

the trend of murders in Baltimore. The Baltimore Fettin Murder Fett that continues this day. But here's what makes the murders different than your regular gang banging. Each murder, it takes the form of a play on a different Ed Grail and Poe story. And so Ed Grail and Poe is forced to investigate. You would think to clear his name,

but that gets dropped pretty quickly. No one really thinks he did it. But he and a very... It's too too much of a weakling drunkard. Yes, he is a, he's a drunk crazy person except he's really only drunk and crazy in one scene. Yeah, we established that. And then he's pretty sedate for most of it. But he makes a deal with a police detective. I'm going to help you solve these crimes. Then his fiancee is kidnapped. Bum bum bum. What? He gets a note from the murder and it says, you have to solve these crimes and write original Edgrell and post stories around

each new murder or else I will kill your fiance. And at the end of it, I'll reveal her, I'd her location. Yeah, I've talked about a killer fan, huh? Except for all of the guys. Boom. Yeah, except for all of the quotes. More than one fralliant. Yeah. Except for all. We'll store it up on the quotes board. That's one for all you. One for Stuart. Zero for Dan.

It's nice. It's nice. So you can change that. Except all of the murders that the murderer does are already based on your own post stories. So the stories that poe rights are stories that are based on murders that are based on his. Well, it's a problem with being an artist is people just want you to keep turning out the same shit. You know, it only like push the envelope. Exactly. And this is based on his. Well, it's a problem with being an artist. Is people just wanting to keep turning out the same shit, you know, in a way like push the envelope. Exactly, and this is based on the Raven 2 coming.

I assume next to the whole. I don't think so. It's actually based in historical fact near the end of his life, Edgreyl and Poe released special editions of each of his stories. So it was like, instead of the Telltale Heart, it was the Telltale Heart with little robot flying around in the background.

Sure, let's see, yeah. And that was the one where I won the Heart. I won the Heart. I won the Heart. I won the Heart. I won the Heart. I won the Heart. I won the Heart.

I won the Heart. I won the Heart. I won the Heart. I won the Heart. I won the Heart. I won the Heart. I won the Heart. I won the Heart.

I won the Heart. I won the Heart. I won the Heart. I won the man. Just a pretty special. I mean, he really wanted the heart and the tail tail heart to be like squirting blood, like right into your eyeballs. But they didn't have the technology to do that in a story at the time. So he had to release the tail tail heart and special edition. Sure.

Then they put back in the scene where the guy who kills his mentor and the tail tail heart talks to Jabba the Hut using the old footage. And it was tough because like at that point he would have stepped on Jabba the Hut's tail, so to write it in. Had to write it. Had to write it in. There's some awesome eye bulging out of things.

So basically, what we have is a race against time as Ed Grail and Poe and this very bland Captain Police inspector guy who's that guy from from Luke Evans from he was one of the musketeers. So yeah, she was recognizing from three musketeers. My husband. Another literary classic made better by including crazy stuff that didn't exist at the time. This is another one of those movies where it's the 1840s, but the policeman knows

all about forensics and Is all CSI all over everything but it's a race against time and If they were the audience they would know pretty early on who the killer was, but they're not the audience They're the movie so it takes them a while to figure it out Should I go into more detail about the different murders? Or just say the end of the movie I mean uh... uh... should i go into more detail about the different murders or just any of the movie we can get back to the murder so you like i guess you just kept the end well it

get to the end and you think for a second it's the agrarian poe thinks that the murder was his newspaper editor which would make sense his new baritore the closest to the motor having a motive because the sales of gone up since these stories have started and it's a good red herring that's a fine red herring and at grandpa discovers his body sitting at the editor's body sitting at the editor's desk with his wrists just kind of skeletonized I didn't really quite understand what happened to him here. It was like someone had slashed his wrist and they just kept going until there was this

twine connecting his hand and his arm and then it turns out that the villain was the type-setter. Ooh, who you saw in the background of a couple of shots. You were, I totally knew what I called it, right? I don't remember you calling it, maybe. You actually thought it was his fiancee's dad's manservant. That's where the E has a really sinister mustache. But there's so many mustachees in the movie. This is where the stereotype of the bloodthirsty types that are coming from.

And frankly, as a member of the type thirsty types that are coming from and and frankly as a member of the type said anti-defamation league i'm tired of it for too long type saiders have been type cast as murderers when fully fully 25% of type saiders are not murderers so for that one quarter of type saiders we have never tasted human blood or quenched their thirst to worship the e-bomb goddess. Unlike the raccoon that was carried or kissed. Oh, I grew up also as a pet raccoon. Go at one point, he's dissecting a human heart on his desk and the raccoon and I guess the raccoon is just nibbling at it or whatever.

So that raccoon you have to chew. Yeah, I know it needs to hold it. It takes a while. Well, no, it's just the other tissue. And then also a. Well, no, it's still a tissue. And then also a poe tosses them like a quarter of that heart to eat. Yeah, he's like, well, I have this heart. Yeah, only a quarter though. The rest is for later taste. He was the taste of that hideous heart. You take a raccoon.

The raccoon was the killer of the end. That would have been great. Well, well, and rather than poll, I'm tired poll entire living as your pet now you've been mine game of your mouse or rather raccoon and man maybe they were expecting an orangutan to get to the murder orangutan there's no G at the end of a orangutan well who would have thought that two flop houses in a row we have a legitimate reason for saying orangutan. Yeah. I only hope that Shoktova continues in this fashion. And we go and we watch next

the orangutan mergers. Someone is killing orangutans. And it's up to and it's up to a kid and a magic bike to find out who turns out it's the Bonobo. We could always watch the recently released every which way that leaves right yeah That's true I mean geologically it's very recently released sure it's an i blink on the geologic scale Oh man, so there's a bunch of murders and he catches the murder He catches the well the murder in his last story He said to the murderer the hero of that story offers his life in exchange for his his beloveds and the murderer accepts it and the type said goes, no, you can't, no, which is a pretty good way to tip off that he's the murderer. Ed Grail and Po goes back to the newspaper

off this finds out the type saidter. The type saidter says, well, isn't that the offer your life for hers and gives Ed Grail and Po some poison to drink. Po drinks it. The murderer leaves and Po finds that there's a trap door in the floor of the publishing house, which leads to... Telltale Heart Style. Telltale Heart Style, T-T-H-S, which leads to an evidence dungeon in which they're in the floor, his mouth say. America's first evidence dungeon, that's a black mouth.

Yeah, it's now a tourist attraction. Yeah, there's a plaque there from the historic preservation committee. The first stupid serial killer was here. Until this point, serial killers scattered their evidence all over the place so that they wouldn't get caught. But then Reynolds decided to change that. Collect it all for a policeman to find, or perhaps an author. And Edgar Allan Poe finds his fiance saves her

but then dies before being able to fully communicate the identity of the killer to the police detective and they he dies in a fashion fitting historical evidence well i mean he's he dies sitting on a park bench in the cold which is not so different i mean the story and i'm like a ditch the story i heard was that he was found in a gutter uh... and what in some kind of stupor and was taken to the hospital and died But uh, they you know if there's a couple different conflicting stories I remember which one is totally true or poor guy poor drunk. Yeah poor drunky McPoe

But uh and but then the types that are had said have you heard of this new writer in Paris? Jewels burn he's pretty good So the next last scene is the types that it gets off his train and Paris gets off his ship in Paris, Jules Verne. He's pretty good. So the next last scene is the types that it gets off his train and Paris gets off his ship in Paris. And where an audience is like, oh, here we go again. Here comes the sequel, the Raven 2, the Nautilus. And he ran and the criminal gets into a stage coach. The detective is there and shoots him because the detective, I guess, we're a handsome cab, the stage coach. I detective is there and shoots him because the detective I guess. We're gonna hand some cab to the stage coach.

I mean, we are in Paris, not Old Old West. I can't, wasn't that answer? The killer jumped toward the detective, cut to black, I shot rings out and the bullet hits a paint of glass for some reason. And then there's a black... Shadow and glass, yeah, if I... Shattering glass, themed and credit sequence.

Because movies... It's a Bond movie movie. Well, but that's because that's I remember I think high fidelity another John Q's act movie was the first one I remember seeing this in where they had a full end credit sequence after the movie that looked like it was meant to be the opening credit sequence and they just decided it's just going to take up time. Why bother we'll put it at the end and now you almost never never see, we're not almost never, but you very rarely see elaborate opening credit sequences like on the bond movies you do. But often you will see elaborate closing credit sequences. And like I don't understand. And when you do see it, it seems to be it's a cause for concern or whatever. What, when you see it at the beginning? Yeah, like the girl, the dragon tattoo had

a really elaborate. Oh, I didn't know. I still seen it and you know why is that a cause for gonna. Yeah, like a scene where we all is a really opening credit. The Spider-Man movies have a lot of opening sequences. Yeah, a lot of random sex. Uh-huh. I think it's funny though as you pointed out, like the type center is like, Jules Verne. His works remind me a little bit of yours mr. Poe and it's like how how they're all about fucking murders I mean there are just tales of the fantastic as well as I mean well that's the thing if he had said they remind me of yours not too more famous murder stories but your less famous ballooning and science fiction

hoaxes because at grail and poe did write like he'd wrote a story called I think a month in a balloon or something like that or maybe that's the verin one he wrote a story about a balloonist a lot of aground post stories were like the it's called the balloons the room work a lot of his stories were like hoaxes that could be considered very early science fiction that you would print in the newspaper kind of pretending if they were real or not. So in a way, the theme of like him printing stories based on real murders in the newspaper is a clever one, but they don't do it well enough. But yeah, but I mean, it's just like the killer being

fixated on Poe makes sense as it's written, but then it being fixated on Jewels of Earn doesn't make sense. Like, I'm gonna go, and I'm gonna carry out some steam punk murders. Yeah, I will ask France. It's almost like they were like, maybe this movie will make a lot of money. We'll have a sequel with steam punk murders. Nah, we'll just heal him at the end.

So, why? Have you heard of this Charlie Dickens? So, do you think the movie could have been any better if they'd made an effort to just have it be like, there's a guy murdering people in Baltimore and Edgar Allan, Edgar Allan Pogas wrapped up in it because, you know, he writes, you know, murder stories or whatever. Instead of murders that are specifically about stories he's written. Well, I would, I mean, I like the idea of, I think they should have kept not that the

murders are based on stories he's written, but maybe that he still has to write, he still gets the challenge to write stories based on them. I like the idea of a killer who is a fan of the author, but and wants to inspire his hero to write new stories because he's here as writer's block. But it's still just such a lazy thing to like, uh, well, Edgrahland post-life was really fascinating. He was dogged by by depression melancholy he came up with some of the most frightening and original visions in american weird literature uh... will have himself some crimes like

will just have some sort of fight a serial killer some shit and will be also having him solve these crimes that are based on his uh... murderous lightla or or his his tales like it plays into that laid out trope of the serial killer who is so super powerful that he can arrange all these crazy game mouse games. Like if he was just a regular klutzie serial killer, all his make-a-mustaches getting his foot gone to chamber pot. No, I mean, he's a serial killer who like was obsessed with Poe, that's one thing, but if he's

gonna like set up a huge fucking pendulum with a razor on it. Yeah, no one noticed that he like Hills is a port of these years. I will We should talk about we had those first We should talk about the murders, but I will say I'm glad they didn't go I'm glad they didn't go the route of like a Shakespeare and love type thing where it's like These are the real life mergers that inspired pose greatest tales, you know, and they've been hidden from people's view for all this time or some nonsense. But uh, okay, but no, you're right.

No, it would have been shitty. But let's talk, let's talk the mergers. So the first mergers based on murder in the roomorg, there's a lady with her throat cut and another lady who's dead stuffed in a chimney, just like in murder in the roomorg, makes you think there's going to be a run in a ranga tan there isn't disappointed I'm already kind of mad next murder is that the pendulum one? Yeah, it is an enormous crazy Sherlock Holmes movie pendulum like it's a wild wild west giant gears pendulum.

Yeah, he like fucking built built the like archway for the pendulum with with bricks and stuff like it's totally Crazy huge, but the pendulum scene is kind of fun because they really it slashes through that guzzbelly a lot Yeah, like it goes it goes to the belly more times than you would expect I think blood splatters all over the camera You would expect it to go through his belly like two times maybe three But it goes through at least five times and he's been slashed in half a couple times and he's still like is amazing for me to do it still and one of the reasons one of the reasons they think Poe is involved is some ways because the second victim is a literary critic that Poe had a rivalry with through the newspapers. So it's not like they

there's a very brief moment when the police think maybe Poe did a rivalry with through the newspapers. So it's not like, there's a very brief moment when the police think maybe Poe did this, but then they just changed it. They made him and they're like, he's kind of a turd, probably didn't do it. He's kind of a weakling. Then there's one that's going to be based on the mask of the red death,

but that's a red herring to cover up the kidnapping of Elizabeth. His fiance Elizabeth, her father throws a big masked ball and the Matt guy everyone is Harlow Quinn's and such her father played by Brendan Gleason using probably the hokeyest ball or accent I've heard all the accents are all over the place in this movie and I'm glad not everybody did an English accent but since like by the 1840s people didn't really in America

didn't have different accents. Yeah, but QSEC is definitely doing like a half-aglish thing. I don't know, I think he's doing a more mature version of his old-timey. He does a more old-timey, yeah. And one thing that is entertaining is, there's like a bar fight and as soon as it starts, up, cue that Irish fiddle music, it's the 19th century. There's no music that exists except Irish fiddle. And look, I like Irish fiddle music, I like fiddle music. It's the 19th century. There's no music that exists except Irish fiddle and look I like Irish fiddle music. I like fiddle music in general. It's fast paced

It gives a lot of energy to a scene, but it's good for brawl. It's good for a brawl But every 19th century thing you see it's shot in the same color palette of like of like dank greens and golden browns and it has Irish fiddle music. Well, they didn't have boutsers back then. All they knew is that music had charms to suit the savage beast. So it's like there's a fight break it out. Quick, play that fiddle. Exactly. Actually, it's pretty accurate.

That probably is the kind of thing that they did. I think in the original version of Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon where there's the bar room brawl they use Irish fiddle music as well. It's like for a while, the go-to music for a brawl was banjo music, and then it was like the band, they were like, let's retire the banjo. Lift it up into the rafters. We'll bring down the Irish fiddle,

and then someday they'll retire that, and they'll bring in like a accordion or a man or something. I hammered Dulls the world. Yeah, I hammered Dulls the world. They'll bring just a snare drum. That'll be the new brawl music. Yes, hot snare, high ass.

It also is used for chase scenes. But then there were a couple murders that were like... The Mask of the Red Death, no actual murder. Less or known, what were they like? Ruse, Neil, Reel Bowner. The real bone, stories, is that what? Well, there's one that's based on that makes reference to Casco de Mio, Lanteato.

Where one is... Later on. But before that, there's one, there's a story called the Case of M Voldemort. Right. on that makes reference to casco de mianteato. Where one is later on. But before that, there's one, there's a story called the case of M. Voldemort, where a character is in half, he's not dead yet, but in some kind of hypnosis, he is halfway between life and death, and he can still speak. And they kind of reference that by having the serial killer

leave a cut out tongue for a girl in potapheind. Then they find then there's the massacre of the the casciliate manteato. And are there other ones? I don't know. I don't know. I can't remember if there are any more murders. I can't be speaking there to be like a hop frog one where they cover someone in pitch and put feathers on them.

And they don't really do a tell-tale heart one necessarily except that it turns out She's buried under the floor, you know Yeah, so Poe Yeah, Poe stories Poe stories, what are you gonna do? It's still entertaining as entertaining today as they were 160 years ago. Yeah, I've anything the movie reminded us of something we liked. That's true and it was like a...

At times it was like a week retread of like from hell but at other times it was like oh yeah this doesn't remind me of a girl yeah i like that we we were we were a little disappointed because in the first scene i would describe i i said that uh... that uh... john q-sac's performance was kind of like nickless cage doing robber down Downey Jr. in the Sherlock Holmes movies

Like it was at at that pitch High the very high pitch later on it calmed down and I was just appointed that it calmed out of the degree that it did Yeah, it's too bad because it's probably in some well It's a really get a good poem. He should have been swinging wildly between manic and really get a good poe he should have been swing wildly between manic and and depressive like really quiet and calm down and sad and then like yelling at people and drunk like that would have been more fun not in real life obviously Poe was a handful very hard to deal with but but uh... the stories I could tell you about Poe

oh me and Poe the times I had with Poe uh me and EAP but uh I used to call him Wyatt Eap. But the... When would he call him that? Yeah, like if I called him up on his phone. When he got out of Wyatt, he had those next tell, so it was like, church, white, Eap, where you at? And then he, it's a good friend.

I am at the liquor house. I'll meet you there. I'll meet you there at home. Poe has become the mayor of the liquor house. Yeah, he was big on four square. Yeah. But for most of the movie, I grew up on Poe.

For those movie, John Q's Act, it's just really, yeah. He became a hero. He became a hero. He became a transform. It's like more mannered Lloyd Dobler in a goatee. Like, he's not that exciting or interesting and he's fairly low-wage. Van Dyke was doing all the acting is what you're saying.

Yeah, Dick Van Dyke was doing all the acting tomorrow. No, but it did feel like John Cusack did a little bit of like sleepwalking through the movie. It's just too bad because that first scene, you're like, this is gonna be good. Oh, and this vampire vampires kiss level acting. He's gonna be the splash of color and otherwise completely drab movie. Otherwise very drab movie. Because I love Brendan Gleason. He's boring except for his wacky accent every once in a while. Luke Evans, just like in three

musketeers, is basically a cardboard cutout. Yeah, the girl was pretty, but she was stuck in a box most of the movie. And while I do like pretty ladies, stuck in boxes, you all know. Yeah, boxing is your favorite movie. But mostly because you think it's about Helen of Troy becoming a boxer, which is not, you've seen it many times. But every time I trick myself,

maybe this time. How can they punch that beautiful face? So how she went. But yeah, everyone's cut, well, everyone's at that low level of non-energy that you find in a lot of movies nowadays, where it's like, it feels like more like, uh, look, we've got the concept. Let's just go through the motions and we'll be done with it. And there are a couple of neat, there are a couple of images in the movie. I actually kind of liked they, they find a body that has its mouth zone up and they have to cut the threads and then they pull a pocket watch out and the pocket watch is hands are set to like a longitude that

is on a map somewhere. But I like that image of them pulling the watch out of the corpse's mouth and then at one point the fiance is buried alive in a coffin but there's like a hole in the wood. She's managed to dig a little bit of the dirt out. And the kidnapper puts his mouth up to the hole and it's just kind of like whispering something, but you can't, at least with undanced EV, I couldn't quite make out what it was.

And there's something very creepy about just this disembodied mouth, just whispering something incomprehensible from the other side of a wall. But other than that, like those brief moments are not born aloft by the structure between which wicks them. Yeah, I mean like this movie, it puts together a lot of things that I find irritating in modern movie, which is the juxtaposition of the modern and the old and the idea of like, let's take a figure that existed, Abraham Lincoln, vampire, hunter style, and stick

him in this adventure. And like, let's have a serial killer who has all these basically magical powers to predict what's going to happen and unlimited resources to set up his little cat and mouse can. Yeah, he's not just two steps ahead of the police. He's like 80 steps ahead of the police at every point. Like any one of those things is a cliche, but could be forgivable in a movie if the movie is good otherwise. But when you put them all together, you've created a movie that only exists in movie world. Yeah, but let's look at some of the positives, a lot of funny hats, a lot of funny moustaches. Yeah, especially the's look at some of the positives a lot of funny hats a lot of funny mustaches. Yeah, especially the the fire fire chief Chief fire

Must-have when he's daring the fire to burn them off. There's a part where John Q's X houses burned down by the killer And yeah, and there's a fire chief who has a big mustache What I like is that his raccoon clearly survived the blaze and I would have liked to see that story How the raccoon escapes. Well, that's the other thing is Edgar Allan Poe Basically moves in with the police detective because his house is burned down Brings his cage with a raccoon in it and we never see like a scene of the detective frustrated with his new messy roommate Having to do it like detective waking up in bed. There's a raccoon on his face like they're you know play a Couple this detective own that raccoon now is that you have a train raccoon that's Baltimore law

Yeah, he's dead. You have a train raccoon. You got to you got to use it. You got a that's gold Yeah, come on. That's movie gold just like they hit film over the head One of the few movies about a raccoon But yeah, I think one thing don't want to think what was happening with the screenwriters are like, let's give Polaraccoon. It's possible. I wonder if-

Was that a real thing? I don't remember. I don't know. Maybe he did have a pet raccoon. I don't remember. At least one other day with the email us and tell us whether or not that was a real thing. Well, the Baltimore Ravens are named after Edgone.

Ellen Poe's poem, so maybe my brother knows. No, it's what if he had a pet raccoon. But yeah, it does seem like a weird thing to do to, like, humanize that girl and Pope by giving him this silly pet and then not doing anything with it. Like having the raccoon go, ah, when something crazy happens. Yeah.

Bandit, bandit, finalizovist. I find them. I would love that. Sniffer out girl. I don't think his name is bandit. And this is him all raccoon. He's the name of the raccoon in the King of the Hill, I think. Yeah.

So it looks like a little bandit. Yeah. Because they've got a mask, yeah. Little mask, maybe a hankerchief around its neck. That's the way it raccoons always accessorize. Dengly earring, maybe a boofaunt wig. You got a sick shooter. You got a sick shooter.

Pearl-handed sick shooter. I like this cross-dressing cool raccoon we got. Maybe Rocket Racoon or whatever. What? Is that your superhero? No, Rocket Racoon is a Marvel superhero character. It'll be in the Guardians of the Galaxy movie in theaters 2015. I can be as a rocket.

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It's explicit nudity. And I assume lesbian themes. Oh, I mean mean they go beyond themes It's not subtext it's text Yeah, it's like like that female in where they trick kids like aliens. Yeah people of aliens. They love kids love females This will be a good good role model for the females The female kids who want to be aliens Female kids. There's so I don't know if there's a word for a female kid, but I'm saying it look we can't be species we only role model for them not a positive role model also a very breast-based female species. Wait, what?

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species more because species do's really weird where the male species goes around and keeps banged chicks and they immediately explode with a baby. Yeah. It's really gross. That was, well, that was super fun. Even the ginger, ginger is scales totally unfair. It's super fucked up in gross. Well, so species two was the most of the wise. So I guess what we're saying is the Raven two, more raccoon. Yeah, less police inspector, more raccoon. I think that's, I mean, anything that has a raccoon and a police inspector in it, that's the note I would give has a raccoon and a police inspector and that's the note I would give. Is more raccoon.

Yeah. What if the raccoon was the police inspector? Brilliant. Can I write you a check for a million dollars right now? I'm not stopping you. Okay. You might want to wait. I'm going to post a hundred years.

I'm going to post a hundred years to cash it. I'm going to post a this check to after the heat death of the universe. But then go ahead and cash it. And spend it on whatever thing with no energy. There is left in the universe. Spend it on, I don't know, dark matter. I went, well, yeah. Oh, this will be very cheap at the time.

I'll get by a lot of dark matter. So, that's probably, Recoons? Oh, here's the thing I'll mention. Okay. I will give it this. It's more, it was it this. It's more. It was a movie.

It's a movie. That was film. It is more based on as well. Was it two hours longer? It wasn't longer than two hours. It was short, slightly shorter than two hours. It justifies its connection to Edgar Allan Poe

much better than the 30s movie The Raven, which is a stars Bellagosi and Barz Carloff. Bellagosi is just a mad killer who likes at growl and poe but doesn't like he just happens to talk about how much he likes at growl and poe otherwise it's not connected but that movie better than this one so i don't know to tell you it's time uh... to your final judgments on the raven

is this a good bat wait hold on what's shocked over time what are you doing with these other 11 months of the year ratings that you're about to go into we Start all the way over so we have to say if it's spookily good bad Scary horror following no, I've got the I've got the shock tober categories if it's frighteningly funny What this was this movie frighteningly farty? totally Was this movie running me farty totally Scarifying okay scarifying was it frighteningly funny? Oh, was it totally snore-a-fine? Run every movie fits into one of those three categories every movie ever made in I think I could have said Blanco was totally scarifying and I think I'm gonna say let's see

Well, she and this list wasn't really frighteningly funny. But it was spookily good, bad. I think, yeah, spookily good, bad. Horrifyingly, not so good. Holy scarifying. Frightingly funny. Or nightmarishly, eh? Totally snorifying.

Which, Stuart, you go voiced. Oh man, I'm on the spot. I'm going to say snorifying. That's one of them, right? Yeah, that's okay. He just said it. It was super snorifying. Yeah, I mean, it, there was no,

there was no life in this, in this movie. And all the blood was CGI and there weren't enough babes. So not enough blood, not enough babes. That's two bees that were missing. Chris Stewart. I'm going to say that like for me, which we're just stewards, other bees bagels, which is optional. For me, this was two thirds, norifying, one thirds, terrifying. Because I got to say like, I'm graing this on the flopphouse curve, I got to say, like, I'm graing this on the Flophouse curve, which we've watched so many movies that any small piece of joy is amplified, but I wasn't bored by this movie the way I normally am by movies we watch. I thought that it had certain qualities that were enjoyable.

I liked some of the pro references. I thought that the direction was not bad, but by and large it was pretty stupid. Yeah, I think I'm going to give it not one third to two third, but maybe 90% snorifying, 10% scarifying. If I can mix it that way, like, yeah, it wasn't, it was not, it was pretty lifeless and stilltid and uninspired, but it was like entertaining in fits and starts and it passed the time a little better than some of the other garbage that we've watched for this podcast.

And we haven't even brought this up, but this is probably the most Nicholas KG role played by a non-Nicolas KG. It's a missed opportunity. If that of a Nicholas KG in that movie, it would instantly rock it up to at least frighteningly funny, if not totally scare fine. Because John Qsack like Lord Love him, but he's he can't he can't bring the crazy he doesn't have the energy that's part of the problem. He's great for movie like Gross Point Blank. We're just kind of a laid back character.

Sure. But for a movie like and the right was the high fidelity guy. His name is high H.Y. Fidelity. Sure. High Fidelity. Oh God. I don't H.Y. Fidelity. Sure. High M Fidelity. Oh God. Not a new issue. Fidelity. Fidelity. Yeah. Fidelity. Fidelity. Fidelity. Fidelity. Fidelity. It changed to the Ellis Island when I bought a record star.

So this is the bit where we talk about new possible bits, right? Where we know this is the part of the project. Yeah, actually, I have a great idea for a new bit. It's called if this movie was starring clowns. And we talk about how would the movie be different if clowns were the stars like professional clowns like the best professional car clowns and it really uh what they'd probably be some of them I mean Marcel Marcel Marcel so if you consider him a clown mime is kind of a different art than clowning

okay that guy and who's with the ring brother circus I think his name is balto or beppo or something so how is really different if it was clowns? Probably funny, right? That's, yeah, that's a good bit. I was gonna pitch a bit where we just play the movie, specific scenes, and we remember parts of the movie. We go, remember that part? You know, the audience would really get a kick out of us

remembering the things we just saw. Because they'd remember it through love. Because you know what, I forget half this shit when we do these things. Like, I'm drinking and checking my phone the whole time. So a lot because you know what I forget have to shit when we when we do these things yeah we can check in and check in my my phone the whole time so I don't really know what's going on I'm gonna pitch a bit where what we do next is we read letters from listeners and we react to them that was all right but what about this it's a bit called if John Q's acquies a bear okay imagine the scene to say anything where he holds up the boom box if a bear had

been doing it frightening they would have shot him if only to save the life of the boom box this letter is that we are the letters say that we are this letter's titled uh... who should slash john hurt as from kevin last name with held he says dear flop house i just started listening and i love the show have her two topics. Thanks Kevin

Two topics keep coming up. We'll show in John hurt John hurt parentheses space balls Best known for his cameo in space balls. That's a reference to another movie. He's a sir John hurt of space balls So John hurt for your excellent work in Space Balls, I make the United Realm arise! Sir John Hurt, and Wushu Flopper, Sir Space Balls. John Hurt and Wushu Fighting parentheses, three Musketeers. Since I was so disappointed with the finale of the Lost Experience, I'm excited to see that you were giving us these clues to follow to find out the answers to Flopper's mysteries you won't have time to address on the show proper. Yep, and Arangitan will be in song 2.

John Hurt plus Wushu fighting clearly has something to do with V for Vendetta, but I don't know how that connects to the Flophouse. I wait the next clue. That's from Kevin Lasson. Well, this movie, The Raven, was directed by the man who directed V for Vendetta. James McTee, yeah. So put that puzzle piece in the puzzle box. So if you want to build an empire of turds, he's doing a pretty good job, right? Yes, if you want to make a series of stilted, slow, boring movies that are... should be much more exciting and much faster.

And shittinger than their source material. Yeah. I mean, the source peculiar for this would be what, like, all the works of Edgar Allan Poe. Yeah, probably, right? Yeah, I guess so. It'd this would be what like all the works of Edgar Olympo. Yeah, probably right. Yeah, I guess so. Be hard to make a movie as good as that. Day I'll go on. Let's read numero dos.

This letter is titled Sounded Sight and Soundless plus Emmys from Michael. Last name withheld. Hey Michael. Thanks for writing in. Hey man. He said I was wondering what your guys take was on vertigo topping citizen Kane on the site and sound list also as a flop has superfan I like to wish you guys luck in the Emmys

although it seems you won't need much luck the daily seems shows seems to own that category yearly well I want to say thank you for the luck I'm still working on Miami I haven't got it yet you know any I'm you will you will you will at this letter obviously predates our Emmy wins. Yeah. I wanted to mention that in part because it took a long time to ship. Postage was fair. I don't know where to go.

I just want to call out to some folks who were saying that they didn't see us on the Emmys or they thought they saw us. Yeah, we were not there. We were not at the prime time Emmys. Our writing category was in the the creative arts Non-televised this year. Well was televised on the reals channel on the reals Channel that if you get a premium movie package you might have reals might get bundled in Do we were our category was not in the prime time is this year due to a

agreement between the our union and the producers of the Emmys that we won't get into right now. But regardless, I can say it is a stupid agreement that I don't support. Wow. Wow. Deal with it. Take the specials writers. Take the specials writers.

But thank you for the congratulations. We had a lot of fun. Dan won his first Emmy and got a little bit of press about it. Yeah, it was a daily variety. It was a lot of fun. Yeah, I'm looking at it right now. Daily variety. Right over there.

And I'm trying to think if there's any exciting, and we passed by Mindy Caling on the plane as we walked on with the enemies. That's very exciting. And she tweeted about us. Yeah. Starve the Mindy project. Well, among other things, yeah.

But we have the best known for that though, right? Well, she will be 10 seasons from now. More importantly though, this sight and sound question. Well, I will point people, if I can take a moment to the Flop House Facebook page, where there was quite a back and forth discussion of the sight and sound list. About hamburgers and steaks. No, it was not a hamburger and steaks. What does a hamburger or the steak should talk to the sight and sound list for best people

meet? What's up, the... The hamburger or the steak should top the science endless for best people to stuff the and But we had a long discussion about it that I thought was very helpful For anyone who's interested in it, but I will say speaking for myself I have no problem at all with vertigo topping the list. I love season cane. I love vertigo. They're both great vertigo is Almost as perfect as a movie can get in my opinion. It's just beautiful in almost every way and haunting as well. In a way that you would not be able to do the same story quite as well in another medium. I mean, they both do different things.

I mean, I think that Vertigo might have like a little more unity as a film. Like, and it does, it has this weird swell of a romantic emotion, but Citizen Kane takes advantage of all the components of being a film in a way that was... Well, except for CGI 3D effects. In a way that was obviously very new. Someday. Yeah, someday we'll get there. No, I mean, yeah. I mean, there was, there was, there was, there's a Citizen Kane special edition when there's more little robots floating around.

No, they're both amazing movies, but like, there are some movies that if they had become the num like Tokyo story is a very good movie. But if that had been made number one, and that's always a sight and sound top 10 list favorite, I would have been very surprised and not agree with it. But Vertigo, it's hard to hard to take issue with. It's just a beautiful movie. I've seen it. I don't know how many times now, many double digits. And each time it's just like rapturous. So. Yeah, well, you guys said, I mean, you guys all know my stance on movies. Yeah, I know.

Casavari. This is the main act. The head of the family. Which one of those is the best? Big trouble, no China. That's for the gods. That's for the gods. I would love it.

Sitesound contacted just Stewart to submit his top 10 list. And let was like, just the vote needed to n just Stewart to submit his top 10 list and let was like just the vote needed to nudge invisible maniac into the top 10. Sorry rules of the game. You fell out invisible maniac is in. We'd finally learn which had the bigger part, the greater part in Stewart's heart though. Castle Freak or the invisible maniac. He would just write them all in at number one.

This uh this letter is titled theme songs from Lawrence last name with how I live here. Probably a request to sing one, Ellie. I would think so. Flop house time. It's flop house time. Don't commit a crime because it's flop house time. Wait till it's over then commit that crime. Cut us in for a half of the take. We'll provide an alibi flop house. Just say you were listening to the flop house. it's over then commit that crime. Cut us in for a half of the take. We'll provide an alibi, flop house. Just say you were listening to the flop house. The judge will let you off the charges. But again, give us half.

Make that 60%. We're literally leaving it at the end of the night. I'm not that so hot. You're recording this as evidence. Not evidence. This. I wasn't even here. I'm not an alibi. He writes,

dear also creators, flopper canicus. I recently became addicted to your podcast and buzzed my way through your back catalog in about a week. However, I have one combined years of work in one week. Although your podcast itself has a fairly jaunty theme, the individual fl flappers don't have their own theme songs. Opening up Pandora's Box, are you Lawrence? Guitar, a cute guitar squeal, Dan. Come on. Depriving you of a valuable opportunity for some

WWF style showmanship as you triumphantly enter the room. Run around the edges of the table, working the crowd, then triumphantly take your seats before your microphones. Here are my suggestions. I will mention the crowd you're referring to is Dan's cat, who would really like it if we would just shut up and not bother her. She would be confused. She usually runs out of the room before watching movie that's too loud. But he says, here are my suggestions and their justifications.

Dan, God's, God's ill is thin. Love it, yes. The best flopper. Dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun determination and immense destructive power. It's true. Elliot. And your breath certainly is radioactive. Elliot. High five. Mommy, can I go out and kill tonight? I love it.

I miss bits. Love it. Because of his a reading voice and obsessive nature that reminds me of a serial killer. Wait a minute. Stuart, Turbo Lover by Judas Priest. Love it. These are all great choices.

An honor of naked Sundays and is a reportedly enormous penis. The Flop House House cap. Party all night by quiet ride. Not a fan. This one is so obvious it doesn't require an explanation. I hope this keeps up the energy levels and creates a closer bond between you and your fans. Yours, Lars, last name with help. Well, those are all mostly good choices. How come when the idea of a theme song for Dan came to me? I immediately was thinking of like the sound of one of like a peanuts teacher talking like an adult like, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow. I mean, that's not a song, but yeah, that's kind of what it's like. I mean, musical though. I mean, the instrumental of Christmas time is here would not be bad.

It would capture my melancholy. Yeah, that what the... Do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do- Do do do that one. I think but that's not really you can't run it around dance living room dancing to that He he would just look at the floor moping about just Deculating in front of the cat. I think maybe fish heads would work for you Dan What about the the title theme from big trouble little China We run It's pretty good. I'm going to say those are really good choices. I think if we, I think the next time- You wanted to choose something for yourselves.

I mean, like these are all good choices, but I have to open it up if you wanted to choose something. I would say some like classy jazz or something for a year. Do you? No, I would want either exciter by Judas Priest. Sure. Um, or, or asus based by motorhead pretty much, or the, my, the theme song I used to use when I used to do one man show in the city a couple times a month was the quantum leap theme. And I would act out my

emotions during the, during the song. It's pretty good. But, but asus based be pretty sweet. I mean, for me, any that like, just give me some Eddie Van Halen, Newdling and guitar, something I could do some karate kicks to, sure, something I can like, try and tear it my clothing. I mean, turbo lover will be pretty good for that. Turbo, yeah, yeah, I mean, it takes a little business to start up. Tough to mess with success, you know. And Dan, what would you like besides the peanuts theme, or the peanuts Christmas time thing or the big drama. Oh right big trouble. I think I think we've covered it. You want to go again? I mean,

you know, I think maybe the Ninja Turtles theme listed in Turtles. They say Elliot. Yeah, just me, Mr. Belvedere theme. You know, and I think for Dan, the two of us, you and me, Stewart would do an Acapellaa television to save by the bell team Or maybe my two dads. I think when we do a live show we have to enter to these songs now I think that's a pretty good idea. Yeah Uh speaking of which we should plug our live show. Yeah November 2nd I believe November 2nd Friday night 8 p.m. 92. I think in New York City, New York, New York City, New York Manhattan, 92-I Tribeca, 200 Hudson Street. Us, the I Love Bad Movies crew. We'll be showing you the movie, Bratz.

You've heard about it, you've seen about it, you've smelled about it, you've loved about it. Bratz, the movie that is the apex of Flapp House movie ratings, although Journey to the Center of the Mad Mysterious Magnificent Island is pretty good. But, uh, yeah, we'll be showing Bratz with commentary by us, presentation by Max Anya from I love that movie movies, movies and, uh,

meowies and it'll be eight o'clock Friday, November 2nd. So this, so don't tell any popper hot sauce. Yeah. Just, just you come don't bring the popper hot sauce. Yeah, just you come. Don't bring the popper hot sauce. Popper hot sauce is popper hot. It's popper hot. CD. And also, if this is this coming up, is this being put up this weekend, this episode?

Yes. Then you'll have one more chance to see my sketch show at 92.3. There's day, October 18th, with special guest, Al Magical, 9 PM. Enemy guest. with special guest Al Madrigal, 9 p.m. Uh, there's an amigast. Letter is titled IMDB Notes for Castle Freak. No, Matt last name with hell. He says, Hey Floppers.

Hey Matt. On IMDB, under the parent's guide page, the only mention of the titular castle freak and his junk is as follows. There's a full frontal male nudity from the castle freak throughout the final third of the movie, although it's all fake and he has no penis. I was unaware that there needed to be a delineation between the nudity being fake and the freak has no penis. But these are the rules that I'm the big ever to. Why are you hired a guy with no penis to play the part?

Also, under the frightening slash intense scenes tab, there is this other gem. A character is blind and there are several scenes which use unaware that the castle freak is in the same room as her somehow the intensity of the scene isn't given justice by the IMDB description. I mean that just sounds like a horrible thing with hell. So nothing about ding dong ripping. I think I think my original my original comment stands. Well to that point

i would like to read our last letter of the night uh... the castle pre-devate continue it's from jordan last name with uh... jordan step to the court last name with the uh... steward court last here flopped out of it i know there is no ding dong ripping scene but i can't believe steward guessed my intention unfortunately the scene was cut from the original script due to budget considerations.

We could not afford the ding dong prosthetic. That would be ripped off in place of his real name. Sometimes I wish my parents had named me after Stuart Gordon, even though there's no way they would have. No. Sometimes I always say, my parents would name me ding Dong prosthetic. This last letter of the evening is titled Ding Dong Gate.

It says, Dear Floppers, I was horrified to hear about Ding Dong Gate while listening to the Passion Play episode of The Flop House. So I took it upon myself to help redeem Stuart by delving into my own collection of horrible VHS movies from the 80s. And on Earth, Night of the Demon, I got off a film about Bigfoot killing a bunch of Stewart by delving into my own collection of horrible VHS movies from the 80s and on earth night of the demon I got off a film about Bigfoot killing a bunch of hapless idiots in plaid shirts. Luckily for Stewart night of the demon contains one scene where Bigfoot rips off a bike of Ding Dong as he is urinating on a bush so now Stewart can recommend Night

of the Demon as his go to Ding Dong ripping film to it. I don't think it's the same. He's not a rip off his own day. Just to confirm what I've said, I've included a link to the aforementioned scene. I'll put that up on the side. Please do. Love the show, great work. Warmest regards, Jordan lasting with hell.

Thanks Jordan. I read that just to dispel a myth that we are specifically seeking out. Ding Dong, Rui. Ding Dong, Rippling. Because I'm sure there's any number there's any number of

sub-Korean or Japanese movies we could watch street trash that's seen where dingdong is ripped off and they play keep away with it and of course there's the immortal scene in snakes on a plane with the snake bites the guys dingdong and he delivers the best line in cinema history but this is get off my dick but this myth that we are somehow cataloging

to do our things and only giving our high straightings to Phil not us just do it. Yeah, just me. Yeah, I think I take the blame. But I think it's Stewart is so confident in his own ding dong that he can enjoy a scene of a ding dong being ripped off where many men would find it painful. Yeah, no castration anxiety is what you're saying.

No, because Stewart has multiple paintings. My ding dong would bite that where many men would find it painted. Yeah, no castration anxiety. It's what you're saying. No, no, no, no. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no So yeah, I mean we're not our podcast is not some kind of a like repository for Clips for movies where penises get torn off of bodies Nor is it a place where you should send your slash fiction featuring us So that's two things this podcast is not but I realize it's everything we appreciate the former We don't like it necessarily appreciate if you want to to write a fan fiction about us have us like be doing just cool stuff like stop in a friend stop it a zero

being friends and just hanging out maybe like skateboarding around solving crime yeah like protecting a rec center from an evil zombie overlord yeah or there was one time that steward and then I had sex just write a story about that no that no stop always that the type you were talking oh that's right yeah uh... oh yeah have a story where we go travel in time and meet our favorite she's in the error during the long day that way

wine o'flop house and space stories wine o'flop house the time of the pharaoh's stories but if what if what if what was rock band that we have yeah come on what if penny met the flopp house all these questions been asked who's gonna provide stories? Who will tell these stories to our children? Some kind of an oral tradition. I would hope I want to see a flop house story with an ironico Henry S. ending Yeah, how about this in honor of this way your

Bridge did it all along That done it All along. It was the owl creek bridge. That done it. One more thing, owl creek bridge. You said that the man escaped and made it back to his wife. But isn't that the man dangling from you right now? Case closed.

Columbus solved the case of the owl creek bridge murders. Ambrose Beers take him away. He's like the duty officer or something. So how about how about an honor of this movie if anyone wants to write Flapphouse fanfiction maybe we're in a macabre Edgrell and post-Isle story. I think everyone here would be more comfortable with the story where we died than the story where we had sex with each other. And leave all the sexist subtext.

So this is the part of the podcast where we talk about good movies that we've seen. I thought you were trying to think about Ripper. The thing done Ripper is done. The thing done Ripper. A-struck again. Is that a new character you're working on? Yeah, yeah. He's called Jack off the Ripper.

It just works out. It's for my one man show about the neighborhood I grew up in. Where I play seven different neighborhood characters. Oh, different accents. It's crazy. So Cosmo Ballon. This is part of the show where we talk about movies that we would like to recommend. Rather than tear down, We want to build up Stewart, is there a film that you saw recently

that you'd like to discuss? Yeah, actually, I watch a shitload of movies lately. I saw Looper, which was great, and he's getting a lot of good press, so it doesn't need me to stand up for it. Looper, that's the time travel action movie with Bruce Willis and Joe Zaryl Johnson directed. Two can't Sam was back in time for Looper. Yeah, that's the time travel action movie with Bruce Willis and Joe's Ryan Johnson directed to Sam goes back in time for the looper. Yeah, it's good. But I was going to recommend a movie called The Tall Man, a Jessica Beale starring horror thriller, which you immediately think that sounds terrible. Well, I think

it sounds like a phantasm movie. And yeah, that's the thing. Like everybody knows I'm a fan of Tallman in their various forms, but it's a horror movie set in the Pacific Northwest, and it is by a director who directed Martyrs, which is a French, is ultra-gore movie. Yeah, and it's hard to really talk about the movie too much without kind of talking about a relatively important twist to it, but he turns out he's short. It's a thing. You would never have guessed it, but I think as other reviewers have said, this is easily the best performance you're ever going to see

of Jessica Beale and not that many people are going see it. But it's great, it's very atmospheric and I recommend it, the Tall Man. I saw two movies that I enjoyed fairly well recently. I watched Wanderlust, which was written by Ken Reno and David Wayne and directed by David Wayne. He loves those guys. Yeah, I like him. I like his day, guys. Start Paul Rudd and Jennifer Aniston. You got a bunch of deal

breaker. Which one? No, all of them. You know, like Paul Rudd? No, he's fine. And Jennifer Aniston's fine. And it's got to I guess the deal wasn't broken. It's got a lot of, you know, like supporting actors that you know, from comedy, you got your Joe Lutruglio. Also the state. Also Ken Reino has a small partner. State. Kerry Kenny. State.

So from the state, Maelan Ekerman. Watchman. Alan Alda is in it. The state. He and Peel have parts in it. He and Peel. Lauren Ambrose. The state.

Anyway. it. He can feel. Lauren Ambrose. The state. Anyway, she was not. But it's a movie that loses its way a little bit in the middle. Once it starts getting into- It wanders a little. Well, once it starts getting into plot machinations, it gets a little less interesting. The first 30 minutes of it, I was convinced I was watching, you know, a really great comedy that had just somehow slipped through the cracks, like the way that Wet Hot American Summer got a bunch of bad reviews when it came out, but it was amazing.

And I would say that the first three minutes are really good and then the rest of it is just an acceptable comedy, but it's a lot of fun. It's better than the mediocre reviews would suggest. If you like the state people at all, I would suggest checking it out. And I also actually saw Dread and I was surprised to find that I enjoyed that movie. It not surprised at all. It felt like a bit of an early John Carpenter movie or maybe a Walter Hill film. It was a just a solid straight ahead science fiction action film that the advantage of it was it kept the focus very small. It was about Judge Dredd and his trainee being trapped. Yes, being trapped in this one building and having to make their way through the floors

of that building. The raid, colon redemption. Yeah, I hear it's a very similar plot line, but keeping the focus very small, I think made it into a focused science fiction beam movie that you don't necessarily see. As opposed to the Judge Dredd's of a Sloan movie, which is like a sprawling overblown type of thing. Yeah, a beautiful ethic. So I enjoyed both of those.

It's a chronicle of Riddick. Like them both. You know what? I'll continue the theme of recommending two movies, but I'll do it quick. One is if the Raven has interested you in seeing an Edgar Allan Poe-related movie, don't go see the Raven. Instead, I'd recommend the Mask of the Red Death, the Roger Corman Vincent Price film.

I would go out on the limb and say, the best of Roger Corman's movies. I'd maybe put it up there. I'd maybe tie it with bucket of blood, in my opinion. And the best of the Edgar Allan Poe movies they made together by far, their times when it reaches a sort of poetic beauty. And there are also some really ridiculous moments that are stupid that are kind of fun but

overall it's really good and embedded in the movie is an adaptation of hot frog the story Dan was hoping to see in the Raven but didn't so the mask of the red death with Vincent Price I would very highly recommend and also I just saw this past week a classic of world cinema that had passed me by for some reason, Hurt Sogs, a Geore the Wrath of God, which I realized I had never actually seen. So I watched it, and it was really good. I liked it a lot, and I liked the mask of the Red Death a lot, so I'd recommend both of those.

So guys, Shaktober halfway done. That's too soon. And we halfway done it with the Raven. Man, I want to see some fucking ghosts or some like backwoods, cannibals or something next. Yeah, scary stuff. Come on. Let's do some scary moving next time.

None of this high brow shit, you know. Like the Raven. None of this high brow garbage like Ed Grail and post-stopping a serial killer. Yeah, well, let's just stay tuned till next time. Maybe you'll be totally scared. Are you holding out hope and I don't know if you're hitting on me but I guess I'm cool that. So until next time I've been Dan McCoy And I've been Elliot, totally scarifying, Kaelin, but not really scarifying. Just, you know, friendly, pleasant, nice to be around.

Don't be scared, please, don't run. No, no, this hideous visage, separating me from the rest of humanity, God damn them all, I'll destroy them. There's a bit of acting. Still part of your one man show, right? Yeah, lived on the same block as a mad scientist with a figured face. Didn't have an accent though, that was weird. No, I have to workshop the accent. He was also Irish and Australian.

A little bit of Japanese in there. Good night. Moon blood good then, huh? Good fright, Dan. Good fright Dan, good fright. Yeah so you guys are gonna be there for the midnight show with me right? Don't think so. You fucking turns. I don't know why we're turd because we're not gonna go see the homin at midnight with you. It's gonna be

super fun. We're gonna get up, we're gonna wear PJs and get in line. We're gonna get wine? We're gonna get wine too, dude. If that's the fucking wine. You just put it in your PJs. Yeah, man. So the first thing you do is you take a gatorade bottle, okay? You pour that shit out, pour it all over the street.

And you fill that shit, you fill the bottle, the plastic bottle with a bunch of wine. Carl Rossi, I'd probably recommend because you can get a shitload of it. Then what's the drinking game? When do you drink? Whenever you see what? Hobbit? No, you just drink it because it's good and you're watching an awesome movie called The Hobbit. I expect a journey.