The Flop House - The Flop House: Episode #24 - Prom Night

Episode Date: October 4, 2008

0:00 - 0:37 - Introduction and theme.0:38 - 1:54 - The whole team is back together again, so to celebrate they ramble off-topic for a while.1:55 - 37:13 - We talk about Prom Night, a shocking expose about the incompetence of the Bridgeport police department.37:14 - 40:35 - Final judgments.40:36 - 49:27 - We explain why we haven't had the Flop House contest winner on, announce a winner of the Ewe Boll contest, and Dan shamelessly plugs his own project.49:28 - 52:54 - The sad bastards recommend. 52:55 - 54:30 - Goodbyes, theme, outtakes, and many, many sound effects

Tonight on the flop house we talk about prom night. The stabbing is night in a young girl's life. Hey everybody, welcome to the flop house. I'm Dan McCoy. I'm Stuart Wellington. I'm Elliot Kaelin. Yay, we well back together at the same time. The original peaches, except not, because I was not original. I'd cross oceans of time for you guys. Oh, wow. Thanks, buddy.

It's very nice. That is... I got that from a movie, though. What movie? Uh, I think last The Movegan's. Hmm. Well, Stuart, where are you been? Uh, I don't know around a way on work, vacationing

in California. I hear that that's a bright and sunny place. You've been California cationing. Yeah, hey, that's a show and a song. No, I went to a mountain burger a couple times that was good. And I saw Michael Sarah on the street who looks like a turtle Like a baby Not like a different type of turtle explain for Dan and the audience at home Why Michael Sarah looks like a different kind of turtle than Fisher Stevens. It's hard to explain There's something a little more sinister about the Fisher Stevens turtle He'd be the evil turtle uncle and the turtle king

Disney cartoon uh... he'd be the evil turtle uncle in the turtle king uh... disney cartoon whereas michael sarah be our hero who's uh... just a baby turtle alright turtle over something that shelly or something that's a good hey sheldon hey dudes okay what's up

i got news okay cool lay it on us it's october shocked over okay shocked over here at the flop house that means we're watching only horror movies for the whole two episodes of the flop.

Oh no! When are we starting? So, October. So, October. It's a minute. October is much like the first 12 episodes of the flop-house. Shut up. Maybe we like certain types of movies better.

Okay, but. I'm to blame if anybody. No, there's not. I like horror movies. Even, even, even good ones. Well, what do we watch tonight, though? Was it good? Well, I don't want to spoil it for anybody,

but it was called Prom Night Dan. Prom Night Dan. No, it was the movie was called Prom Night, and I was addressing Dan. Now, Prom Night is a remake of another movie called Prom Night, I think. Although I don't, I think Jengly Curtis was in it. Is that the one with the, like the zombie guy on the motorcycle with flames and shatters? Is that a comedy too?

No, you're in a ghost rider. No. Okay, nice. I think of ghost rider actually. Prom Night was a 1980 film. It was made in Canada, and it looks it. And it has Leslie Nielsen playing Jamie Lee Curtis's dad back before he only made comedy spoof. Before the career defining hits spy hard

in 2001, a space travesty. Right, and Mafia, right? And he wasn't in that, though. No. It was Jamie Lee Curtisises screen queen films along with Halloween, Halloween 2, terror train. Trading places. True lies.

Carpool. I see movies with him. Freaky Friday. Terrifying, freaky Friday. Blue Steel. But the movies are nothing alike. I mean, the thing aboutly prom night is a movie about Some which which one the original one. I'm already confused a kid dies at the beginning of the movie. That's weird and then

when they're Teenagers all the kids sort of responsible for that kid dying get picked off one by one. So it's like Friday the 13th Yeah, but at a prom instead of a summer camp. And the Friday the 13th isn't like the kids who did it are guilty. No, it's true. Kids who are acting out the same ethos and lack of care. It's kind of like a final destination.

But instead of a death trying to kill people for avoiding some crazy death thing. It's, I don't overvenge. But the weird thing about the original prom night is it's one of these movies where, okay, at the beginning the external death of this child is witnessed by her brother and you're like, okay, the brother is probably the killer, but surely, there'll be a twist in this movie. We'll think it's the brother, but it'll be someone else. Maybe it'll be Leslie N in this movie. We'll think it's the brother, but it'll be someone else

Maybe it'll be Leslie Nielsen in fact, but at the end of the film The killer gets in unmasked and holy shit. It's the brother as if that was gonna be a surprise to us. Yeah, it was pretty crappy Viber Cole. Yeah, and also there was a 15-minute segment towards the end where everyone disco dances Yeah, that was called Padnight. Yeah. I mean, we have to face that. That has nothing to do with the updated prompt.

I think we can all agree. The best horror movie that involves a prom that can be made has been made and that was carry in my opinion. Yeah. It's like, it's such a strong movie in terms of a teen story and then also a strong movie in terms of people getting, you know, all bloody at the end and John Travolta kills a pig in it. Like you're not going to top that I don't think. It's challenging.

I mean, it's too much to bud the shot, which ends with his zombie prong. It's so, yeah. The prongies. It's pretty good. It's pretty good. But the end, of course, Teen Wolf has. I don't know if it's a prom or just a day. Teen Wolf is definitely a horror movie. About a ravening teenage wolf. The story about

a little wolf who plays basketball. I don't know the role of this. Terrible. I would like to see a movie. It wasn't even a werewolf. I was just like, oh, this this wolf is 13. Imagine being on the basketball court of that team. Well, that's, I mean, that's, that's kind of ginger snaps a little bit. Yeah, I guess that's true. But like, genuinely imagine if you had to play basketball against a werewolf, you'd be fucking frightened. Well, we've talked about this before, I think, how it's amazing that the other teams continued to play against the werewolf team and that the story never got out to the press. This werewolf is one story but basketball playing werewolf is a bigger story. Yeah, it's pretty open.

I would imagine that that season just looked like a series of four-fifths. Four-fifths, four-fifths, four-fifths. Yeah, another winning season. Yeah. Anyway, but the real prom night, not the real-fifths. The werewolf is graduating. Our basketball team is going to go downhill fast. Quick, glue these carpet samples on.

We'll tell them we have a new werewolf on the team. Yeah. Teen Wolf 3, not a wolf. But anyway, the prom night we watched tonight was the 2007 prom night, I guess, was it released or was it released early this year? It might even be 2008 maybe like a February graveyard released where they just dump everything. I think it was just before the end of the year because they were probably trying to get into consideration for the Oscars. That makes sense. I would have assumed that

they would release it around like June or May when problems are happening or around Halloween when scary things happen who when when uh... when death stalks the silver screen and for one glorious night people go crazy and star warshiping monsters and death yeah but i think that they released it in march when shitty things happen i think that was the thing that they were capital it's if it's march shitty things it's either prom night comes out or Julia Caesar gets assassinated. It is a crappy month. Oh, but God, this movie did not skimp on the prom,

though. That's one thing. It skimmed on the plot, the character development, the gore, and the excitement, but there was a ton of prom. Yeah, this movie is slightly less than 90 minutes. Yeah. Probably 88 minutes. It's slightly less than a satisfying experience. And 10 minutes into the movie, they arrive at prom. Yep. What a prom. And the prom itself is insane. It looks like the set of MTV's The Grind, I guess.

But most movies, most horror movies, it's based around an event. There's a build to the event. Like the event happens. Yeah, you meet the characters what he minutes in well going back to carry the prom happens like an hour and a half into the film like it's the edge the climax of the movie basically what happens is at the beginning there's one of those horror movie beginnings when like one or two killings get get out of the way right up front we gotta we gotta fill a quota you know like maybe people think that they're in the wrong film

someone doesn't get killed immediately and they're gonna walk out of the theater. So like this girl's Family gets killed including including including a little kid, which was pretty awesome Although altogether very bloodless. Yeah, yeah, they get there stabbed to death But it's kind of like they're stabbed to death with like a knife that sprays out an invisible ink that covers up blood like DDS7 or something. Yeah, that's the thing like I think that's just like I've like a poison ice pick. Like there's a really small entry movement and they die and that's it. Because all like this entire movie labors under the belief that the human body actually doesn't have very much blood and to cause a lethal wound to somebody, it doesn't actually

involve very much blood. The human body holds like a cup of blood yet in general the people that are killed in this movie are killed from like internal wounds that you can't really tell you're like why they got that summer there are i imagine they're all he might feel the acts of the blood is all yeah they're all bleeding internal also killer is like a fucking samurai because every time it kills somebody there's not a single drop of blood on the dot he can move around he can move without making a noise he can travel through mirrors and shadows

uh... and he's good at everything it helps that ever get to this i guess but every other car and i'm excited killer and actually i know when they can this case through mirrors and shadows is just kind of an emotional this guy who appears behind people and kills them yeah but all right so he's a teacher he's obsessed with the school he kills their family kills her family because he loves her And he wants to take her away. She's put away then we flash forward into the future three years and not like the far future Yeah, she hasn't changed. She doesn't go to a space bronze

It's like a breath movement Logan's really And much like in the breath movie she looks exactly the same. Yeah, years in the future and She's gone from about probably the age of 14 to 17 let's say and she looks exactly the same three years in the future. And she's gone from about probably the age of 14 to 17, let's say, and she looks exactly the same, not a time when people change. And 10 minutes into the movie, we are in a limo going to prom. And that's all the set up you need.

And she probably likes the same rock bands as she used to. And the killer, the killer is this teacher who's obsessed with her. And that's one thing that this does Share with the original prom night is that there is no mystery as to who's killing You're like, oh this guy's killing she'll probably think that he's back later on But it's gonna turn out to be someone else like that's gonna be a red herring. No, it's the same guy Although I mean they play it straight. They don't try to make it a mystery he's yeah i know but it's the most boring

okay this is a teacher who's obsessed with her and thus that means he kills people just because that information is thrown out to us in a conversation between two policemen who we have not seen before and can't do their jobs properly and then more exposition spot on top of it you saying it's not exciting or dramatically interesting No, wait wait, maybe I didn't follow the movie very correctly

The killer didn't have a beard, but the teacher had a beard here's here's another problem So the teacher was captured putting a mental hospital and then I guess they shaved his beard in his head because of the of the Lice problem, let's let's make clear clear that the killer initially looks like Charles Manson or this is a high school teacher or Jim Cavizial in right. Yeah, like everybody's high school. But he looks like a crazy bomb. Yeah, like everybody's high school gym teacher or science teacher. He looks like he crawled out from under the boardwalk and then got to class, taught you and then went to a crack house. And then hung out with Brian Wilson and killed a bunch of people. So, but he gets into a man's hospital, they shave off his crazy hair and beard and he

escapes looking like a shorn person. But the cops, the picture they're working off of is still his mug shot from three years ago with the hair on the beard. And every time they show it to people like no haven't seen this guy. Haven't seen that guy wearing the ski mask and the cowboy hat. Yeah, I was saying that I wanted like there's a point in which one of the teens like sees and it's like there's something about that guy that rings a bell and I wanted a scene where she somehow gets like a limbo.

I just one one thing But like I wanted to see where she somehow got a hold of a photo of the guy and then she like drew like a beard on him And a mustache like holy shit is like or like some like novelty like Mustache and beard sticker like I put on that. Yeah, I said the picture actually falls into a Into a woolly willy magnet and metal shavings toy and she arranges the beer around it She's standing across a crowded room from the guy the guy turns to order and somebody else hands like a phony beard Must act to a friend across their line of vision She's behind a

Jokers like look what happens when I draw. Looks like that guy's a mustache. He appeared. He's like in a minute. He enters a man's and look alike contestant. What's on a fake beard? Has there ever been a joke in a TV show where there's a police sketch artist using a woolly willy to put together sketches of criminals? I think so.

Oh, that sounds like it. That's a funny joke. It sounds like a family guy joke. Yeah, you're right. Now I hate it. Oh, that sounds like it. That's a funny joke. It sounds like a family guy joke. Yeah, you're right. Now I hate it. Burn. But she goes to prom killer gets there and takes his sweet time murdering about eight or nine people. Yeah, I bet that she has some really like unique and interesting friends, Elliot. I bet that there's like a Well, let me tell you about these exciting friends that we meet right away. There's her black friend and her white friend and each of them has a boyfriend and she has a boyfriend too. Huh. So do they have any hobbies or... Well the one couple had the one couple wants to have sex and the other couple the

the boyfriend's mad because the girlfriend is going to school far away. Yeah that seems to be one of their interests and they're interested in talking about what's going to happen in the future. And the main couple talks about how great their relationship is and how much they love each other? Yeah, so so that's too hot. He's loving each other and being interested in the future. All right to be fair I guess that they do have some characteristics one of the yeah one's black the other tour away a lot Yeah, yeah, one guy drinks a lot and then the like the black guy wants to Proposed to his yeah, although that's a throwaway moment. Even though they're in high school.

And there's no foreshadowing for that. They seem like they kind of got thrown together in a couple because they're the only two black students in the class. Yeah. Well, and that's why I want some mayor because he doesn't realize there's other black females. Outside of the town of Bridgeport, in which this takes place. Yeah, Bridgeport, the town of one amazing hotel and nothing else.

One astounding hotel that's like 100,000 stories tall and every room is a suite with, you know, expensive furnishings. And the prom has giant search lights outside and a huge ballroom with a giant screen and they're on a glowing platform floor. Well, I mean, they sold a lot of band candy. And, and and yeah there's like five cops in the town and they're all fucking sucky at their job well that's all the funding in the town goes directly to the hotel and the thing is that it's a lot of subsidies down government there's see there's an interesting story there that the mayor owns the hotel he's been embezzling all this money from the town to the hotel to the hotel is going bankrupt they can't even finish construction on it.

Remember, because she runs into that part, that's not finished yet. You're still with doves. Yeah, you're still with doves. And then the story, there were a lot of side characters that could have been more interesting. There was a lesbian gym teacher who was the only shaperone at the prom.

There's this imaginary mayor we haven't gotten in. There's two policemen who are named Hicks and Striker that only briefly appear, but I wish the movie was about them. Yeah. Like why Striker decided to go into the like Bridgeport police force instead of the special forces. Maybe he was in the special forces or the French foreign Legion. And for some reason either had to leave or he chose to leave. Absolutely. He saw one too many alien killings and he just had to get out of that line of words and Hicks is either like a goofball or a real dedicated cop who respects the other guys co-covert training But at the same time he's envious of it. So he's so he disrespects and I just want to warm up him. Yeah, this is a movie you can make out like the Rosencrant's and Guildster of A prom night. Oh, that sounds good. Hi the old star of that of a prom night that sounds good hey

i'm not great but there's a whole story about these two minor characters what about that it's like a family matters to perfect strangers that sort of thing now the whole thing about the prom is like in the feature at the making of feature at would just watched it explains how like the prom in this movie is like everybody else's prom like times ten it's a fantasy prom. Just like how the teacher's beard was like, your high school teeth is bearded.

Bigger. Absolutely. Like to the next level. That's how I viewed the teacher's beard and hair. Okay, that makes sense. Well, it's interesting, because they made it sound like it was supposed to be a very over-the-top, like, purposely exaggerated movie,

but they never get that feeling watching the movie. It just feels like a- Well, it just feels unrealistic. And it's just like that, like that like it doesn't feel it doesn't feel felina-esque You know on ruse or something. Yeah, it's the ages of the students like the ages of the students at Europe from Plus 10 Well for instance the main characters boyfriend played by Jason's street of Friday nightlights absolutely. I don't know what that actors name is but we'll call them Jason's Street of Friday Night Lights. Absolutely. I don't know what that excurs name is, but we'll call him Jason's Street.

Did he go to that high school? I think you said he was like the son of a like a landscaper. No, that was my explanation for why a guy that old was dating a high school. Yeah, he's a thing. He's clearly like 28, 30, 32, anything. 47, 60. Yeah. 65.

He's listening to his agent. He believes he can still play what 17. Yeah, you know, I'm a doling a blanning Where from 17 to 32 now? You should say good range. He sells it better on Friday night lights. I don't know whether it's the wheelchair Yeah, it's because he's paralyzed paralyzed people have old faces They've been through a lot. Yeah, absolutely, but So yeah a bunch of really sort of interchangeable characters. Sure. Go to the prom.

And I think it's really interesting the way that they each get killed off, because the way this movie's been constructed, there's no reason for the killer to kill anyone except for the girl he's obsessed with. But why isn't he even trying to kill her? I thought he loved her. Well, he wants her to come with him and he's going gonna kill her if he can't get her, I think. I don't care. It's a very complicated pathology.

Oh, I'm sorry. I shouldn't hurt at all. That's why I've been doing that. But that's why I've been hurting my girlfriend so much. Yeah. That's why there are those corpses. But like the way the movie's structured is the killer hides in their hotel room.

Right. And they one by one go up to the room and he kills them. Like a Venus fly trap. Yeah, exactly. Except less exciting. That's sort of like set up. So are you suggesting that one they go into the dark room? What? Funk. Are you suggesting that you have it?

You must have got in this room. Why it's so dark in here? Funk. Yeah. So you're putting forward that video, video renters or people who use Netflix or whatever should instead of running this movie Just go out and buy a Venus flytrap and watch that for that identity will be more even if you don't have flies in the area Or monkeys, I mean that doesn't they don't kill anything, but they also do if you train them Those are guards seem like he's always those are different. Yeah, yeah

I was thinking of military trained monkeys that were flippers and Dive with Navy seals and everything Work with Navy frogman you're you're thinking of the 96 C monkeys unit Now one of the things that I really loved about this movie in addition to the complete lack of Gore because Yeah, this was a 13-horma. This was like well, it was unrated the DVD box set on rated but they by unrated They meant like it wasn't gruesome enough to get a rating like it didn't even get a g rating It's like a horror movie that like how we man del directed like he was afraid of getting his hands dirty the whole time Like little monsters waiting

Right that he's in it. He should have yeah, I remember about little monsters is He didn't do it right there, he's in it. He should have. Yeah. I remember about little monsters is the monster pees into something and pretends it's apple juice. Yeah, and puts it to the like the cat food for two to fish. Is there a scene in that where like something pulls Fred Savage's pants down or something like that?

Probably. As a kid seen that in a commercial and being like, that's inappropriate. Yeah, no, that movie, I watched it growing up on HBO. I'm like, this is like even as a kid, I'm like, this is a deeply perverse, children's films. Yeah, there's a lot of dirty feelings.

I watched that movie on VHS as a kid and I was like, why wasn't this release in theaters? That's right. Monsters, little art or spell kids movie. Yeah. Oh, that's it. That's its own horrible thing. In addition to complete lack of gore,

which I think I've mentioned a couple times, is the police work. Luckily, police work is really a big deal. As they say in the making of they combine so many different genres as he says because because genres match with a hard J sound apparently. It's a police procedural. It's a killer on the loose movie. It's a teen movie. And as a police procedural, it fails on every level because the police have no procedure. It's just kind of like, I guess, well, there's a killer on the loose. I guess we're hanging around a while. I learned that the guys escape. They learned that the guys escape like three days before prom or

what I should. And they don't, but they were so caught up in prom madness. It's still really worthy about it. And then their solution is like is like okay this guy's probably going to track down this girl we're gonna go to prom we're not gonna reveal our presence at prom and we're gonna watch from the side of the hang around i think what really what happened is that he didn't get to go to prom when he was a kid so you that he like i'm gonna stop this killer and they saw problems going on

is like you know i never had the thing. What a magical time. So this is what promise lies. You know, yeah, it just became a prince. I feel like a prince. I think part of it though was after they found out, everybody had already left for prom, so he went and talked to the girls and uncle

who the girl was living with. Donna, I believe, was cared. Yeah, the and dropped a big plate because she was so horrified. Yeah, which he called that. Was that you, Dan? I didn't call that. And then he was like, was like yeah you know this killer is probably in the loose is probably going to go kill donna

they're like i don't know if we should interrupt problem i mean but i think there's a conversation between the and uncle later with the ant is like you're the one who didn't want to didn't think you we should take that take her back home and i don't know what's rational for us for something like well it's prom night yet also uh... i don't want to point out memories last forever the and played by the this night will be with her as long as you live

sure on flight lights and the two cops are characters from the wire a stringer bell and ziggie so yep so there's a whole friday lights the wire thing going on here but i would recommend that you watch those two television program rather than watch it means as bad as this movie as the people who made it have good taste in television yeah that are like all these are fine actors

maybe they'll elevate this uh... the same way where even if i was making like a bikini car wash type movie i would hire a lot of actors that i like you know from old television shows and stuff to give them to give them work i really like it you know i'm not a good guy Kevin O'Rourke from remember when i I've got a role for you. Come on down, you know Todd Barry. I love to have you in this and he's not really a TV actor, but you know. So but the cops, um, Stringer Bell and Ziggy, the cops, they go to prom, they hang out, they lurk, they don't tell anyone. They look creepy. They look creepy.

They're two adults hanging around prom just watching Arguably the one adult looks about the same age as the kids except he has a mustache Here's the beginnings of a mustache Keep their eye on like the main girl and tell one point when like Ziggy comes in It's like oh there's something in the parking lot you got to see and they go out and they find they look at a corpse in the in the trunk of a car I like the killer's car and they go out and they look at a corpse in the trunk of a car. And that's when the girl leaves. And I'm like, can't the guy just tell him? I'm like, oh, I found a corpse in the car.

Someone's definitely here. Now's the time to remove this girl from prom. He was waiting to get a really good picture of the guy's reaction for some kind of a police bloopers. For the holiday party. He was really trying to get him to do a ticket. Now we got to paste this on your locker. He's like, I put a delicious banana split for you

in the store. There's a lot of, if I could tell a brief story about a policeman's lockers. I remember as a Cub Scout going on a tour of the local police station, and the police officer is showing us around the building and everything. And he takes us to the locker room and opens up his locker to show us his gear and inside there's a Polaroid of him sitting in a chair and a stripper hanging her naked boobs over his head and he was and I just I remember him turning to the den mother would brought us on this storm being like that was a bachelor party from one of the other policemen you know.

I like that he turns to her and she he explains to her. He's ignoring the fact that you're in the dirt. That we can all see it. I feel like I need to apologize to you, the adults. But I can't write it out. I mean yeah that's an awesome story. Thank you. I didn't have it in this movie said.

No I haven't thought about that experience in probably 11 years, so you know Rang is memory back it does yeah, it's like it's like this is my remembrance of things past Proud night is my you know, whatever the So oh, but so the police are so they stand around and look in the body in the trunk for about 30 minutes and then But so the police are so they stand around and look in the body and the trunk for about 30 minutes and then To the killer kills people and Donna gets something and then that he's chasing the the one the one girl I hate to just like keep me flying her by race Lisa, but the thing is are you gonna remember her because the African American girl And this had the same name Lisa as the African American character in saved by the bell Played by Lark Voorhees sure so Lisa like I assume her last name was turtle girl in this had the same name Lisa is the African-American character in Save By The Bell. Yeah.

They played by Lark Voorhees. Sure. So Lisa, like... I assume her last name was Turtle, just like Lisa Turtle in Save By The Bell. Yeah, I watched a bunch of, uh, Save By The Bell at Collegiers while I was on my vacation recently. Not as good. No, and that's saying something, so you can save By The Bell as a terrible joke.

Well, we can agree to disagree. Let's go. But Lisa runs off. She realizes who the guy is and she runs off. And she gets attacked by him. And she runs as Stuart alluded to earlier. She runs into an area of the hotel that is just exposed wooden beams and plastic sheeting.

And I mean, this is sort of luxury hotel. Some sort of lighting that kind of fades on and off Apparently, they're not finished building it and they haven't blocked off that part Yeah, it's easily accessible for the page and there were no deleted scenes on the DVD about how the hotel was having trouble finishing construction Yeah, basically she just the killer just was like I'm gonna chase you into the spooky area of the hotel Where there's no the best part of that is he chases her in this into the spooky area. And then her boyfriend who's looking for her,

the elevator doors open, an area of the hotel that people, patrons, you know what I mean, that they happen to be in and there's no reason he should know they're in there and goes, Lisa! Lisa? Yeah, she's not here and the door's closed

and then she goes, and he goes somewhere else like. Yeah, stupid. And that's for that moment where she's not here and the door is closed and then she goes somewhere else. Yeah, that's for that moment where she's like, should I call out, but if I do, am I get stabbed by the killer? Like that, who's that tension there looking for? And frankly, they achieved it. I got to tell you, the killer, the one time that he didn't prove himself to me was when he's chasing her down the stairs and her shoe broke and she fell down. That was unfair. He had nothing to do with that.

Yeah. Maybe he did have something to do with that. Maybe he caught her the her deal with it. Well, she was making out with her boyfriend. He was just slicing away slightly at the heel with his magic knife that he uses to do everything with. Yep. So, but anyway, once they realize that people are getting killed, finally, finally the cops

spring in that direction. Where did he get that that knife by the way He used he had it when he was in the like insane asylum. Yeah, he must have smuggled it in his rectum or something Did he make it? I like to think he that looks like a leather man professional knife I don't know he's he's pretty adapted doing things He was a high school teacher. You're saying he did teach a knife making class You're saying like this is like Rambo and each time he goes out on a mission He makes a new knife for it.

Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, but now, but finally, the cops bring into action. They, they, um, the cops lurch. They lurch slightly into action. Well, they call a bunch of guys with moustaches and sweat gear from the next town over. They evacuate. I like to believe that they're just guys

who are at a costume party dressed as swig guys. They go, they take the girl away. They send party dressed as swi guys they go they take the girl away they send one cop with her and they don't take the girl to the police precinct they allow her to go home they take her home and then the and then the cop who's supposed to be keeping the house secure sits in his car while everyone else is in the house and he just keeps rubbing his ear and like you know and the other cop calls him and is like, you got to check in on them No, the area is secure. Check it on them and you kind of get the idea that in previous cases

This guy is refused to get out of his car Like he knows that it's a habit of his to just sit in his car and not doing your thing. It's a nice car It's got heated seats. He's got one of those beaded things that massage you drive He's got a PSP And the car Yeah, well, no, he brought it's in the glove box. He pulls it out and plays whatever video games kids playing out or cops bubble Bob, I think sure yeah But I can't yeah

Whatever sit down, I think They're all playing a boy in his blob. Maybe Egg Man should. Let's name some more, I should. Okay. Okay, so. Mega Man X2. So the thing is, I think usually Satanist car is,

Marvel said, there are, I said maybe four or five Scenes where somebody's like hey, hey buddy friend when walk over to the person like are you asleep lift up the person's head Oh my god, they're next slash I kept thinking of this of the the trailer that Eli Roth made for grindhouse for The Thanksgiving movie where like she is kissing the guy and it's just a head the bug and she goes down on another guy and she looks up and his head falls off like it was that kind of thing we're like it was ridiculous there's no way like first of all I would imagine a neck wound would believe like I haven't seen anybody who's had their neck smashed there's a thing called arterial spray though the major arteries in your body.

Yeah, so a lot of blood would get everywhere. Like, I don't think it would be like just artful, like, hey, let's spray a little blood here. It would be like all over the place. Well, he soaks his knife and liquid nitrogen before cutting people with it. He soaks his knife in a coagulant, so that the people clot almost instantly.

He's kind of like a lightsaber. He's starting to like an old TV. Yeah, it, it, uh, car rides, car rides, I think I couldn't remember the word. Nice. Professional writer. I can't remember the word car rides.

Can't do it, car rides. Yeah. Boom, delicious jokes. All of our car rides Asian jokes, I'm such a hypocrite. But, uh, yeah, there are a lot of scenes where people don't realize there's a dead body. She's hiding under a bed at one point as the killer looks for her and she's under the bed for about two minutes and it looks over. Notice there's a dead body

centimeters away from her. Yeah, like looking at her. I don't know about you guys, but every time I duck under a bed when I'm avoiding a killer, I check pretty clearly. Yeah, there's another killer. Because you want room to stretch out. Yeah, and you want to make sure they're a while Yeah, you want to make sure there isn't like a killer is like evil twin down there too You want you want to make sure it's not like basketball case and the killers like you know Syme's twin brother who's tiny grandma Yeah, like a little gooey. I also want to make sure that that's also why I checked my toilet every time I was it down The posters, you know, so a lot of check under the skirts of women with poodle skirts and fishnet stockings to make sure a munchy isn't down there. But frankly, I also check down there to make sure there aren't a shit load of like gross

spiders and stuff because if there's a killer chase of me the last thing I want is to be bit by a gross spider. Well, you saw that hotel. It was super clean. Yeah, and when was the last time you've been in a hotel where you can actually climb under the bed? That's true. That's true.

Not all, not recently. But anyway, speaking of the hotel, while they're at home with one guy on the girl, Stranger Bell realizes, oh, look, there's blood up here in the air vent. He stuffed a body in the air vent and he switched out the hotel uniform and he escaped when everyone was evacuating. I think that number one, he might have checked the people that were being evacuated. He might have let everyone rush out in a big crowd. But number two, the guy escaped from the mental institution through an air vent.

And wearing somebody else's clothes so the other thing is like yeah I mean like the guy just left like if if he let the guy walk by him what was he expecting to kill it to look like was he like he thought he had a beard and a lot of crazy about a blood out like on a knife well listen we all know what killers look like they're wearing hockey masks and they've got big machetes and a ton of blood on them we're Freddy Krueger faces. I like it. You just get rid of a beard.

At the police academy, like, how do you identify killer? Well, let's take a look. He's gonna have either crazy hair or a crazy beard. Maybe he's got blood all over him. That's a good clue. And if not, then he's not a killer. I don't think like a Hogan's Alley type situation where like cardboard cutouts flip around. You're like baby

Woman with a baby normal person killer with a beard Yeah, and then as I said what if that's a killer without a beard no such thing correct you passed 100% You're not honorary sheriff now. You're in hero squad. Yeah Here's your machine gun Best TV show. You're the cops who break the rules because they have to. Hero squad with striker and hicks. Hero squad. Striker and hicks. Hero squad.

Not really police. They just do stuff. And the Native American tracker steel wolf. Steel hunter dark blade. claw blood iron sleek shadow storm storm striker, they have a well, it's a storm striker related detective striker yeah their brothers storm striker is actually a weather man he didn't go into the police force nice and so how many of those guys were native american track all of them nice but they bring their expertise to like a more urban environment yes well

you know now they got they left the reservation there was a lot of future for them they took construction work uh... and now they're in the police force they can finally read like uh... pigeon droppings they they're the only ones who can track the wolf in that are at large in the city. So, oh man, so many wolf in in New York. Everts, well, I mean, they went down briefly when Giuliani was mayor, but now they're

back. Yeah, the wolf in the chuds, man. Anyway, but at the end, there's an exciting confrontation. Oh, wait, no, there's not. It's incredibly, it's like, the magnetic. The girl kicks him twice. That's what this is no one shoots him where it's like she kicks him in the face really hard Yeah, it's it's Where do you really good meat slapping sound effect like a fucking Indiana Jones movie? Like where'd you learn to kick in second of all? Have you ever kicked somebody's head with your shoe off? It hurts like a bitch. Like even if you have a lot of adrenaline going through. Well probably she's probably got calluses all over her feet from cheerleading practice or something.

That's true. And from running to hide under beds. Yeah. I wish they'd they'd explored that area of her personality a little more like they showed like her growing up since. It's interesting like you show her constantly hiding under bed. Yeah there's nothing like she she goes to sleep under a bed because it's the only place she feels safe. Absolutely. That's nothing like she she goes to sleep under a bed because it's the only place She feels safe. Absolutely. That's where she eats dinner goes to school Sure, she takes a bed into school with her and lies underneath it That'd be awkward, but I bet you could do it. You'd really think that she would school nowadays

But you know what you think is that her the homework assignment under the bed You'd think that the teacher at the school went crazy, killed her family, you'd think she would leave town and bring another school system. I would. If a teacher got really obsessed with me sexually and then killed my entire family, I'd probably go to a different town.

But I would still be really excited. Maybe you even changed your name? I don't know. Nope, nope. I would remain striker steel. Well, let's just say. Yeah, birthday. Dr. Inferno Fireburns. Let's wrap it up because there's really not that much about this movie to talk about We should just get on to magma hot steel. Final judgments dance favorite mean man Kerala. Yeah

He's the villain though Oh wait a minute. Oh my god, I've been making the wrong movie. I gotta get out of here. Change my name to Punch Slab Rocklist. Okay, so wait, final judgments? Yeah, let's talk about it. Is this a good bad movie, bad bad movie, or a movie that you actually genuinely like?

You know, I think a lot like the movie, this, our final judgments are gonna be a complete switcher rune from what we've been talking about the whole time. No, I'm aligned. It's not very good. It's a bad movie. I wouldn't ever watch this again. Yeah, I was saying during the movie, it's like one of those pictures made up of a lot of pictures,

not like those collage pictures, not like the Truman Show poster, but one of those pictures of pictures not like those like collage pictures not like the Truman show poster But one of those pictures where it's like we've taken 100 photographs of a person and Merge them. I've never seen like like an average photo of like the features And this is sort of that the version of that we like we took a hundred slasher films and we've merged them So only the blandest version only the similarities appear. appear yeah where do you see these types of pictures you know it's got a prescription a crazy picture magazine okay the craziest pictures every month it's a movie that's goofy photo weekly okay so that's too bad bad movie and I'm gonna say

Shockingly as you as you said It's a bad bad movie as I at what I what I so what you're watching is it felt like an Outline for a movie first. There's the scene with the killer then there's the scene with the therapist where we explain what happened Then it's prom time. There's a scene with the getting ready for prom then they're on the way to prom like there was no Connective tissue and there was no fleshing out it was just like the the points you had to hit to tell this terrible story I will say a lot of the scenes were lit well I don't know if you did the lighting but it was well lit a lot of the time yeah good casting of the minor characters the minor character and let's say it was like at times it felt like they were like

well we're making this this by the numbers, slash our film, maybe we'll have Robert Altman cast the side characters and create their back stories. Because it's like, just that lesbian gym teacher was so much more interesting, even though she has about 40 seconds on screen than Donna. You know, if this movie had just been a movie where the police are really bad at their jobs,

I might have liked it. It would have been armed and dangerous. Or I liked lethal weapon too, you know. We're loaded weapon one. We're loaded weapon one. Yeah, absolutely. Our 9.5 ninjas. We're Beverly Hills ninjas.

Any of these movies. Three ninjas. Three ninjas nice. Kick back. Sidekicks. Yes. Check Norris. three ninjas kickback side kicks Check Norris. Oh man now we're now we're probably gonna be able to be Googled now since we mentioned Chuck Norris Yeah, that's true. He's pretty hilarious. I Lost his bread now now that now that he's a everyone knows he's a huckabee conservative type

Okay, but anyway, you were saying it was just about incompetent police I didn't like it, but it was also not very interesting or anything else. It was very boring. It was not 10,000 BC boring Yeah, no of course not. I think that would be unfair. I think the 10,000 BC has been the Nadeer of the that is the dullest movie of the program. We have watched yeah Even one missed call was better than that. That's just that's just the song. The song the Bear plays. I'm not happy now. Let's move on. Uh, Sphere tears.

Manics. He took down a manic all by himself. Before we get into our recommendations, I have a few announcements to make. You sound so excited. Yeah. You know me. I'm filled with joy.

What you guys don't know is that every time we do one of these Dan is drinking out of a bottle of gin. And so if it sounds like his energy is flagging by the end, it's because he's just thinking about the people he's wronged. Their face is swimming before him. Yeah, he keeps picking up a photo of his lost love and putting it down and picking it up and putting it down. I think her name was Angela. Look, I'm sorry if you guys find that distracting.

Anyway, I bet some of you, not all of you, but a couple of you were wondering about the flop house contest since we haven't mentioned anything about it since we mentioned the winner. Judy, the winner of the flop house contest, she may remember her as the person who put delightful temporary tattoos all of her body. Wait, those were temporary? Hmm. I think we should revoke her victory.

She is apparently moving away. That's too bad. So we probably can't have her on the show. However, I want to keep the option open. I want to keep the invite open because honestly, she was so far ahead. She earned it. She was the best entry by far, but however, she was way better than my entry.

Yeah, yeah, yours was terrible. Yeah. Yeah, that was just a dead bird. You handed me a dead bird. Oh, you have a cat. I figured you would remind you of your cat and you'd like it. No. Yeah, so if Judy ever wants to come and watch a movie,

I didn't even kill that bird. You're invited. Yeah, I'm just shooting. However, the other contest we have running, the Oof-A-Bull Contest. That's how you pronounce it. That is how you, you weren't here for the last episode when we talked about this.

Wait a minute. You guys did one without me? Yeah. What do you watch? Wildhogs. Anyways? Wildhogs. Anyway, so. Wildhogs. You know.

Okay, well, I was an extra in that movie, so I'm not allowed to actually talk about it in podcast, so it's okay you guys did it without me. Were you an extra in the scene where they were at the Chilly Festival or were they or were you an extra in the scene where Chilly Festival. Were they were skinny dipping and the family came along.

No, I just watched that scene when I watched it at home last night on Laserdisc. Leave it at Edition Pressing One of One of the Wildtogs Laserdisc. But anyway, we have a winner for the cast, a create and cast and an uva bull film contest. I just want to read it. Okay. This is for Wolfenstein 3D Colin. That's a good choice. The movie. Slash 3D. We've got here. Former LA Raiders Superstar and CBS personality Howie Long. Nice. As allied spy William B.J. Blasco with. Did you guys ever read Wizard Magazine in the Guides comics?

Yeah, absolutely. They were really pushing the idea of how we long playing Venom slash Eddie Brock in a Spider-Man movie. Yeah. And I don't know why they thought that he was so good. So charming in those ads with Terry Hatcher. This was way before that. This is when he was making that firefighter movie. Yeah, it was like fireproof or flame storm or flame ax fire the other thing was hard fire man backduring and wizard still has that cow by the way not that I look at I haven't read that magazine a

year I like there it was in my friends car one time I was like but like the the and for a long time up until pretty much the release they were pushing for Glenn Danzig to be Wolverine Yeah, they were really big on that that was weird. They're big on people who don't have acting careers Yeah, well I think I being comics like people first of all I think that they maybe like just focus on the look Maybe they're singing capture them. They're looking the comic. Yeah, but can they perform can they actually I got the goods yeah, they're acting chops. Well, let me let me get through this uh, this winning entry though. You can drop it on us. So far it's good. Yeah, and a Pete is Nazi prison Commodat Isla Bronstiner, who secretly loves the Strange

American Spy. At the beginning of the movie's last act, she eats the poison sausage, the fur intended for Blasca Whits. a alieke baldwin is cyborg eight-off Hitler I don't know about that casting Thoraburge is cyborg even brawn who do you who do you look at for cyborg cyborg eight-off Hitler I mean my go-to is wall is shun and I think he might be good at that but I don't know let's see okay uh... ringo star oh oh she'll buff cyborg eight-off Hitler there you go but I don't know let's see. Okay. Ringo Star. Oh, oh, she'll buff. So I've got to get off here.

There you go. Done. Ringo Star and Zach Galafonakis as Nazi prisoners, Lieutenant Smith, Smitty, and Lieutenant Franchie, respectively. Just to see the two of them on screen together. Chemistry. Explosive. Jamie Kennedy is head prison guard

hans gross uh... who bj beats to death with a bust of hitler later when he in uh... isla jog past the body she explains mind got it's gross bj shrugs and mutters baby i've seen grosser things isla roser roller eyes along with a musical sting by a accordion and uh... lastly chris for lo for Lloyd as president franklin d rose about i want to

movie made for that because chris for Lloyd doesn't do enough work so that's calling from portland or again uh... uh... merby commando i didn't say he made no movies ever in history i said he doesn't do enough work anyway when it's okay calling it i didn't say that actors never been featured in a film before Like 14 years old But I just saw that in the movie yesterday Colin you should write with your full address to the flop house podcast at gmail.com

So you can send your award your your prize. Hey, what's this prize? It's season one of Rocking Bullwinkle because that's a DVD I own and I'm getting right up. Don't pull back the curtain too much. Yeah, and a signed copy of Wild Hogs signed by all of us. Oh, that's awesome. Yeah. The actual copy we used for the show. That's a piece. We could have sent that to the Smithsonian, but instead you're going to get it, Colin. Yeah. You can frame that. Or you can do or you can do or you can watch it. It's yours. It's now your property. You're responsible for it. Listen, you legally can do anything. You're actually legally required to take it. I don't want it anymore. So there you go. You you know what? I'll maybe I'll throw something in too. Yeah? I don't know what yet but okay.

Expect expect something else along with you. Yeah, so expect some sort of crap. Yeah, some sort of swag. I do have a lot of daily show promotional stuff that I should get from 2004 that he calling my light. Okay, stop, stop with the mouth. 2004 that he calling my life. Okay, stop, stop with the mouth. And hey, Sarah Schafrey had to plug something while she was on the show. So let me just plug something because it's been a while since I've been in a live show.

But if you live in the New York area, you can come see me in a show called Shateful Display presents you, your world and you, which is a political sketch comedy show. And it's going to be October 19, 26. And that's those are two dates, not 19, 26 years. I can't really say. Let me get my time machine, Dan. And, uh, ho, home. November, maybe after the show, we can go down to the store club and hang out with Zelda and F. Scott. And November two and 9 at 930 at the magnet theater.

That's at magnet theater dot com if you want to look it up. And it's a million five dollars. Swing by the magnet theater and see the show, then over to the cotton club. Yeah, see the Duke Ellington Orchestra. I feel like what's this dish look like in real life? Dinner at Del Frisco is with Meyer Lansky. Yeah, so there's that played by played by Patrick Demsie the movie mobsters anyone else played to a team I'd add and it's off to Paris with Ernest and

Gertrude anyone else have any plugs before we move on I mean I always have plenty of stuff to plug but I won't get into it all right I'm not allowed to plug okay yeah Stewart doesn't understand the context of plugging things. So, alright, let's move on to our recommendations. Movies we actually like because it is shocked tober here as a channel. Change rambling, change change-ravelling. We're recommending horror films. So, bring around the roads. We are angering our fans. Sound of spiders. Let me take out my fright sounds, volume 4, tape from the cassette player.

Okay, do, continue. We're doing horror movie recommendations and just to stop you guys from making fright sound, let me go first. I would like to recommend the signal. That's a film, I believe it can't last year. It's about a mysterious signal that is broadcast over the radio on television and it makes everyone very aggressive, makes them paranoid. People are still rational in the sense that they think that they're making sense, but their perception is altered so that they attack people in ways because they're hallucinating and such and such. And it's split into three sections

It's actually directed by three different people and it has kind of an overarching story But each segment has a different tone like the first one sort of like a zombie movie the second one is like a horror comedy like a black comedy and the third one is kind of a psychological thriller and It's good. I recommended keeping short. I am I'm pretty sure I didn't recommend this last time I was on but I was pretty drunk so I don't remember but I would like to recommend a British film called The Cottage I don't know if you can see it over here in the old United States yet but it's it stars Andy Circus who played Gollum and Reese Shearsmith from the League of Gentlemen and

The premises that a pair of kind of bumbling guys pair of bumbling brothers end up end up kidnapping the daughter of a mob boss And they take her to this cottage out in the woods unknown to them They've actually stumbled into the predatory grounds of a like a hillbilly cannibal murder or guy and Stuff gets killed. It's good. It's a horror comedy. I'd watch it predatory grounds of a like a hillbilly cannibal murder or guy and stuff gets killed. It's good. It's a horror comedy. I'd watch it. I'm not sure because once he's a very hairy man, very sure. Yeah, very hairy. That's what I have to say about that. All right. Um, I'm, well, my, the scary movie I'll recommend is one uh, I'm gonna pick an old movie because I thought I'd do.

If anyone hasn't seen the movie, the Old Dark House, which was one that James Whale made right after Frankenstein, but before, brighter Frankenstein, I think that, I think, I think it's the timeline of it. And it is the classic story of a couple, had their car breaks down on a rainy night, they're near an old dark house,

and there is a creepy family living in the house, and there's nothing supernatural in the house and it's there's nothing super natural in the movie it's just creepy stuff this that and insane brother insane sister they're both very creepy they have another brother who they've locked upstairs because he's too dangerous to let out boris carlough carlough is their disgruntled butler who drinks and gets violent it's just very uh...

in the kind of insane in a way, 30s movies are sometimes. And also I'm going to recommend, even though it's shot over, and this is not a scary movie. A movie I just finished watching this morning called The Friends of Eddie Coil with Robert Mitchum and Peter Boyle, and Alex Rocco, which is a really good crime thriller from the 70s, about kind of criminals who are career criminals and don't like doing this anymore because it's not a great way to make a living and that they kind of have to live with this with the consequences of two of having this life and rubber mitchum is really good in it

it has a very inappropriate score though it's kind of like guys hang out in cd bars a lot and kind of dealing with the unhappiness of whether life is now that they're not young, but they're still involved in crime But the soundtrack is like Now now Like very 70s, but like the night worth you know, that's Yeah, this is more of a guitar sound less of a bass guitar sound Yeah, oh Bobby McFarron just walked in

Oh man Goodbye Bobby This is like an old-time radio show This is like an old-time radio show. Oh, but you think down by the fire, a crinkle, crinkle, crinkle, crinkle, crinkle. You're not a fully artist. You think that saying words is the same as that exact thing. I don't kind of an onomatopoeia type guy. All right, well this has been a fun night. I, uh, I learned this.

Nothing takes the fun out of a night, like stating it's fun. Nothing deflates a room than that. Nothing, nothing takes the fun out of a night like stating it's fun Nothing deflates a room than that. Yeah, so we're done, right? Yeah, we're done. Okay cool. Good night everyone. I'm Dan McCoy. I'm stored Wellington. I'm Ellie Kaelin for the foreseeable future. See ya Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha That's Fleving! We're Wolf Sounds. Welcome!