The Flop House - The Flop House: Episode #40 - Friday the 13th

Episode Date: June 28, 2009

0:00 - 0:35 - Introduction and theme0:36 - 39:20 - We apparently have more to say about Friday the 13th than any movie we've watched previously.39:21 - 43:40- The most shocking final judgments yet.43:...41 - 51:24 - Listener mail51:25 - 56:06 - In lieu of film recommendation, a slew of plugs: a zine, Elliott's film series, and Dan's sketch group.56:07 - 56:42 - Goodbyes, theme and outtakes.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 On this episode of the flop house, we discuss America's favorite holiday, at least based on a number of movies made about it, the show where we watch a bad movie or a questionable movie, and talk about it. Stuart, stop looking at me like I'm an ass. My name is Dan McCoy. I'm Stuart Wellington. My name is Elliot Kaelin. So guys, it's been a while since we've seen Elliot at least. Yeah, what are you doing, dude? And about. I can only assume you were recovering from that dueling pistol injury to the head that I saw you incur on the daily show. That was part of it.
Starting point is 00:01:06 I did shoot myself on the head on the daily show as an early 19th century French footman. I'm amazed I kept that in the show. It seemed like that sort of like super violent accident might be the sort of thing. That's the kind of spontaneity that comedy feeds off of. What was it like working with horse? With a horse, you mean? with a horse you mean yeah or even like a caveman just the idea of horse no like a horse the horse in the in the daily he was worrying technically it was a pony okay worrying because I
Starting point is 00:01:34 had to lie down as a dead body right behind where the horse would be shitting if it needed to take a poop or got scared was that your was that like your first concern is that it would shit on you? Yes. And then my second concern was that it would stop on my windpipe and kill me. And his third concern was that it would shit on me. My third concern was that they would cut it from the show. I need my screen time.
Starting point is 00:01:53 Hello, Hollywood, here I come. I think that's how my great, great grandfather died actually. He was cut from a scene where he was, and I was going to say he killed himself. I was going to say this shortly. And Grant got started as he had a scene where he was. I was gonna say he killed himself. I was gonna say that short land grant got started as he had a scene where he shot himself in the head of the doing pistol and fell behind a horse. And got shot on.
Starting point is 00:02:11 It was called a police academy. Ha ha ha. Starting Maywest. Ha ha ha. What a good movie. Speaking of good movies, we watched a little. Wait, hold on. We watched a little recently released remake. This was a remake guys
Starting point is 00:02:25 I don't know if you notice that. Reimagining. Yeah, I think that's reworking. There's a re-imagining work in a Make a name. Yep. It was a Bayafide right? What? Oh, yeah, it was made up. It was definitely bait up. Yeah, because it was Micobase production. Oh, I thought this had something to do with bail wolf in your head. No. Go. It was 30% more bail. Well, the villain is basically Grendel, right? Yeah, that's true. There you go. It's a reimagining of Grendel. Yeah. Well, bail wolf. Well, we'll talk about reimagining later. First, name of the film. This movie is called Friday, the 13th. That sounds unlucky. Based on the day of the same name. Based on the film that's based on the day of the same name. Yeah, well, the day was a little thin, so they had to flesh it out to turn it into a movie.
Starting point is 00:03:13 But it's the sequel to Friday starring Ice Cube. I thought it was the sequel next to Friday. Ice Cube, or is it Ice Tea? I was supposed to forget which is the one. Ice Tea's the one, what's that show? Something about criminal intent. Oh, the ice cube is the one that's in Friday. Ice cube, boys in the hoods, ice cube is in Friday
Starting point is 00:03:35 and not in Friday the 13th, which is more than actually watched. That's right, starring Jason. Yeah. Everyone's favorite guy, Jason Parties. Yeah, and this whole movie kind of put the whole Jason character kind of turned it on its ear, right? Not at all. Well, it has so story. Well, in one way was it different than the other Jason's.
Starting point is 00:03:56 You guys know me. I'm a big Jason nut. I'm a big Friday the 13th freak. You did dress up as Jason for Halloween and St. Patrick's day and the 4th of July I also own I think I own all of them except for Jason goes to hell on DVD really yeah, I think so why Jason X? I think I might have I'd have to check check my vault even Jason your boss. Yeah I have I have Marcy X on Blu-ray even Jason you're yes i have i have marcia xx on the uh... blue ray ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha never know where he's at. No, exactly like. No, but what I was going to say is that he's a lot faster in this one. Yeah, well, it's just like zombies and movies now they've fastened them up. Yeah, they made him faster. They've quickened them. And more furious. And later on, we're going to determine whether this new fast and furious Jason is better than the original.
Starting point is 00:04:56 Oh, wow, you're teasing. That's a pity of me. Let's get started with a little bit of plot. Stuart has a whole outline for this episode He's so much more organized for this episode than he has been the best. Let's start with a little bit of plot Ellie. What happened to movie? Should I give things away? Should I just go? Okay, we open literally with Mrs. Voorhees about to kill the last of the shitty counselors of Camp Crystal Lake. But wait a minute That happened at the end of the original first one, Ellie. I know, I was thrown off too. So you're saying, okay, so this, wait, so what happens then?
Starting point is 00:05:32 Does she get killed with a shovel like in the original? She does, the last remaining girl, as what is it, who wrote girls in chain sauce? Clover, Carol Clover, is that right? I think that was James Joyce. No, I think it's Clover who calls them the last girl. The last girl cuts off mother vorhizes head with a shovel and walks away. Yeah, this is basically like a public service for people who want to see the original
Starting point is 00:05:57 Friday the 13th, but don't have a lot of time. Or, frankly, yeah, I'm not interested in that. Or uncomfortable watching Kevin Bacon in movies. So they, it's a lot of movies they can't watch. And then you hear her disembodied voice from beyond the grave telling Jason to kill them all. Yeah, like it goes. Cut to present day.
Starting point is 00:06:15 Smash cut. Smash cut present day. A bunch of assholes to drive into the woods looking for some legendary weed that is apparently growing in the woods. Normally a legend of Curly's weed Normally a legend of Curly's weed. A legend of Curly's weed. Normally this kind of setup, you know, I'm on board. You like parties.
Starting point is 00:06:32 I like kids that like to party are assholes to each other and clearly aren't friends. A group of kids. That are also searching for weed and or booms. A group of kids who don't like being around each other. One of the two girls and three boys. Three guys, yeah. Three guys. Long story short, almost all of them die. But not after.
Starting point is 00:06:51 The breasts are exposed. Some very fake, very disgusting looking breasts are exposed. Thanks. Well, come on. They were kind of gross. They were horrifying. Yeah. They looked better in the sex scene in the film. Well, in this, this, this, but this sexy, yeah, which two, it look better in the the sex scene in the in the film
Starting point is 00:07:05 Well, and this one, but this sexy. Yeah, which to it look kind of like how you know like frogs or Fish can have like fake eyes to like scare off people like their fake nipples Like but they're actually on her A bull frog extends its throat and it's all Vany and bulbous and right so her breasts are like frogs in two ways the first First time we see the the first time we see the, the first time we see these frog boobs. That was a Native American metaphor. We used almost all the parts of the frog
Starting point is 00:07:32 to describe her breasts. Oh, so the first time we see these frog boobs, it's when she's doing little strip tease, where she male characters are talking. The nerd has his back to the girl and- Not even his back to her. He's kind of turned away from her a little bit and the guy's talking to is clearly just pointing at this girl's boobs making lugeesters I think he's even like
Starting point is 00:07:53 he's like humping the air and he's making the gestures theoretically to the girl like yeah yeah yeah but which works most of the time you're frog boobs but the guy who is just all you do do out there that usually works. Yeah, the gestures and the Humping the app. Yeah, but you're right sir. The guy is facing a little to. Pointing him does not know. Welling tip.
Starting point is 00:08:14 Yeah, it does not turn around does not say what are you pointing at? He's just telling them the story of the legend of Camp Crystal Lake. Mm-hmm. And that's the thing like he, he's just really a good storyteller. Yes. The Norse would have referred to him as a skull. Yeah, he's like Homer.
Starting point is 00:08:32 I guess the moral of this movie though is if someone's pointing at something you should look at it because it might be brisk. It's either boobs or something that's going to kill you. Yeah. Okay, so they, the two of them go off to have sex. Another two, I don't remember why they go or why. They go to find the scary cabin that'll inform the rest of the moon. They go to find a scary cabin and the nerd goes and finds the magic weed.
Starting point is 00:08:53 Yep. He gets killed by Jason. Yep. Then Jason kills the rest of them. Yep. I do have to hand it to the movie. They do have, Jason does set up a whole bunch of weird kill traps. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:06 Where first he grabs a girl puts her back into a sleeping bag. Ties her up over a flame and roasts her to death. Yeah, that's really. And uses her to, uh, to, to, uses her as bait to get her boyfriend who is just having sex with her to run towards her bear trap. Probably still has a boner at that point. Oh, I have to assume it.
Starting point is 00:09:23 Yeah. I mean, that's why he's owning right because he's like an addition to finish this and addition to like stripping his leg and that bear trap he's falling on his boners. What's that? It's even more painful and his keys. Oh my god, Jason's big. Yeah, you got to go. You're going to use a way from boners and so but what's the bear trap team is pretty grisly. Yeah. So this, and this group of team gets killed and then suddenly the title comes up Friday the 13th.
Starting point is 00:09:49 This is like 15, 20 minutes into the movie, right? Yeah, we've had two prologs before the actual movie. Yeah, I was expecting credits to hit as soon as that, soos that hit and then like a, I thought it was gonna be an hour of camping safety tips. Nice. What did Jason do wrong in this scenario? Let's take a look.
Starting point is 00:10:06 Yeah. Galant and Jason. So, Galant sets the table without being asked. Jason avenges his mother's death on teenagers who wander into the woods. Galant takes a retreating for the group. And Jason is murder someone. This little like opening bit is, you know, all the things that they set up in this opening bit,
Starting point is 00:10:26 everything from guys making Lou gestures that people should be able to see, but clearly not seeing, to teenagers natural inclination to go investigate creepy old rundown cabinets. Listen, if you're a teenager, you have to- It is off-lighters, what you're saying. Teenage, you want to do one of three things.
Starting point is 00:10:43 Get high, have sex, or investigate a creepy rundown cabin. Or take a poop and somebody's sick. You would say that. You would say that. I know. Well, they left one of those out. It's okay. You don't have to hit all the bases.
Starting point is 00:10:54 Yeah. Then anyway, you're hanging out with different teenagers. They find there's a locket in this creepy cabin, and there's a picture in it that looks vaguely like one of the girls who is with that group of campers. That's convenient. Very convenient. Okay. Almost suspiciously. Yeah, it looks like a girl played by TV's Amanda Regetti of the OC and the mentalist. She plays the female cop who's not Robin Tunney or Tun to me this is her big break up role start starting things that don't have the yeah exactly so okay
Starting point is 00:11:29 then we're in present present day i i really like that bit uh... when they're in the cabin in jason's trying to kill him any sneaks under the floor floorboards yeah and he just starts to have his machete up like uh... like a weird game of battleship or like uh... like all but the mull can kill you yeah and he keeps missing, and then all of a sudden he starts hitting,
Starting point is 00:11:47 and you're like, up, he's just gonna keep hitting until your battleship's gone. And then the dude gets pulled down under the floorboards and barfs up a bunch of blood. It's not really a most efficient way to kill someone. No. If you don't actually hit them, your kind of machete is kind of stuck up
Starting point is 00:12:03 in the floorboards and like they're wrong. Well, but Jason's super strong strong so we can pull it out. Yeah. He can also teleport. Yeah. Okay. He's magic and shit, I think. To keep it, to keep it quick after that present, present day, a bunch of assholes who also
Starting point is 00:12:14 seem to not like being around each other, but are friends for some reason, are going out to one of the guys, dad's cabins because he's rich. They run into at the local store, picking up supplies. They run into a guy who is trying to post up flyers. His sister is missing. Yeah, what's the asshole? It's the girl from that first group of teens. And the leader of the friends is a total assult everybody and a dick.
Starting point is 00:12:38 And the brother looking for the missing girl, again, played by TV star, Jared Patalecki of Gilmore girls and Supernatural. You would have to have changed that name like Patterson. Yeah. James Patterson would be his name. Yeah, James Patterson. So yeah. His name would be Brent Ripchess. So this guy is trying to put our posters like why is he trying to rain on everybody's parade? It sounds like he's being a real prick. No, he's being you know, he's not doing it in the most friendly way, but he's looking for his. he's been a real prick no he's being you know he's not doing it in the most friendly way but he's looking for his
Starting point is 00:13:06 his kind of missing sister so when you do the same for your missing sister but I thought the like the chance Peterson guy the leader of the the leader of the cool kids was being a real dick to him he was for no reason but he's he's really cool and rich and stuff shouldn't't he? No, it's not how it works. So are you learning a hard lesson? See in the movies, but he's handsome. Marginally. In the movies, as sometimes occurs, you know, to be fair in real life, people take an incident dislike towards each other.
Starting point is 00:13:38 Especially when there's a challenge there. Yeah, especially when this green rider needs to have some sort of conflict. So that the characters will split up at some point later. And there were way too many dudes and not enough chick. There are three or four guys. Five, I think. Five guys. There's a lot of more guys than girls I think. Five to three. But anyway, long story short, a lot of drinking at the cabin. One of the girls leaves and joins the brother who's searching for his sister. They find lots of stuff. Jason starts
Starting point is 00:14:07 killing people. There's another sex scene. The rich guy, Ashole tells the girl he's having sex with that she has perfect nipple placement. And then Jason kills some more people. And then there's topless water skiing. Top. Oh yeah, Jason kill. I forgot about them. There's another guy and a girl. And the girl goes topless water skiing Which is interrupted unfortunately when Jason shoots an arrow through the head of the guy driving the speedboat Perfect shot perfect shot right through his head and Olympian. That's chasing. Yeah guy driving the speedboat One of the assholes from Veronica Mars and all your TV stars
Starting point is 00:14:41 There's the arrow goes through his brain But he has enough life life left to turn around. Then the boat hits the girl in the head, and then in probably what, the best death in the whole movie, she's hiding underneath a pier that Jason is standing above, and a lot of creaking wood and water. And he, like just thrust his machete right down
Starting point is 00:15:03 through the dock into her head, then lifts her up and hits her head on the dock. Last shot of boobs is her boobs come above the water and then pulls out the machete and she falls into the water. And it's all very deadpan and sudden and comical. Yeah. It's the closest thing to, uh, wit that the movie has to offer, I feel like. But, um, and there's a lot of product placement. He doesn't even look at her when he kills her. No, she's garbage
Starting point is 00:15:29 There's a lot of product placement. They drive an escalator round they listen to the the main song off the hives most recent album Some guy likes green day. I think they said they mentioned green day They talk about how great patch blue ribbon is earlier in the film Jason uses a compound bow But that's not a brand. Yeah, but you can. I mean, there's a woodchipper in the film. Oh, and I didn't even mention the weird master band about how they run into.
Starting point is 00:15:52 The compound bow lobby would probably. There's a guy that run into who, there's a guy who run into who owns a barn with a woodchipper in it, which comes up later. And he is really boastful. And there's the weird streak of characters masturbating in this. That character looks at a hustler, an issue of hustler and then starts coming on to a
Starting point is 00:16:11 mannequin and then Jason kills him. He also licks the issue. He licks the issue and then says you like that to the magazine. He did start smoking weed though and that's usually what I do when I start weed. It's just like the scene in that. Well he was an extravagant thing to you. The guy hallucinates from weed. Sure.
Starting point is 00:16:25 But then later, one of the characters the character who doesn't have a girl to match up with and isn't dead yet in the cabin, he gets high and then is like, well, guess I'll masturbate to something, pulls out a box of tissues, then picks up like a J crew or like a land's end catalog and flips to an image of, I guess a woman in her mid to late 30s when the sweater and slacks and goes,
Starting point is 00:16:48 all right, well, this is it. I found this very interesting, because apparently, one has to believe that he masturbates every night at 1030 exactly, because it wasn't like there was something that turned him on and he's like, well, there's no one around. I guess that what I'm gonna do, like he's like, oh, well, she's got a a master babe what do we got here oh
Starting point is 00:17:09 jacrew yep well I gotta take my insulin and master babe that's what he's saying the the thing that's concerning for me about this character is that you would think you'd have more stuff stored up in the in the spank bank. He can't just fantasize about something. He was also just watching a girl ride the rounds to music in a very short... By or so. Shorts and some kind of tight top. Yeah, like I would think you would be able to think back like, I remember that night when I was watching big sausage pizza clips for four hours.
Starting point is 00:17:39 Oh god. And then we should really get some life from that website. Just the clips. Then once we had mentioned it for a just have free time to have money. He was just watching Brasers previews for all day. Yeah, he knocks a quick one out, and then his friend show up, and he helps him kill Jason. And he runs around in the bellroom.
Starting point is 00:17:54 It's a trenchant message on the lack of imagination in today's youth. I agree. And the sexiness and all being coward, whatever it is. They've been ascensitized by the media and the images they're bombarded with. Well, apparently not. If they can get it up for a picture of a woman in a sweater. Well, he's so bored with everything else he's seen that he's like, he's seen too much. He's like, finally, a woman that's fully clothed. This turns me on. You know
Starting point is 00:18:18 what turns me on about this? The class. This woman's sheer tastefulness. She let is aroused to me right now. It's a real change from what I've been seeing. She seems like a woman I could get to know. So somewhere around there, Jason shows up. There's a sex scene. It's actually like that girl's pretty attractive. And then she was a very pretty girl. And then there's a bunch of killing, a cop shows up and gets killed. I mean, the officer, sorry. To the police out there. Yeah, all you police out there. There is one kind of woody moment. There's a guy who, one of the friends
Starting point is 00:18:51 goes out to a wood shed because he has to fix a chair. And he has two great lines. The first is when he leaves and he goes, don't worry, I'm a wood wizard. And he goes, they don't call me the wood wizard because I masturbate a lot. And it's like, why would they call you the wood wizard at all? But he's in the tool shed and he finds a hockey stick. And Jason comes up behind him, wearing, of course, this trademark hockey mask, which he picked up
Starting point is 00:19:13 earlier in the movie. And he looks at it like the high school goes, is this yours? And it's like, oh, yeah, because he's wearing a hockey mask. That's. I like to imagine that the guy's sitting around riding this screenplay. We're sitting around in a little, like, little writers room. and one guy came up with the whole wood wizard line And somebody like his writing partners were like, oh, that's great. Let's let's write that one there Well, there were a couple lines like that. That same character when he finds the hockey stick He like is holding it between his legs and he says Even bends to the left just like my penis
Starting point is 00:19:43 was even bends to the left, just like my penis. You think the guy who came over those lines got an extra 15 minutes for lunch or anything? I feel like he wrote, it even bends to the left and they were like, no one's gonna get that. That's too obscure, put in like my penis. Well, there were a lot of scenes where like lonely male characters would be talking to themselves. But oddly sexual things.
Starting point is 00:20:04 There's a lot of things, yeah, we're felt like the director was something to me. Just like me. Just like, just keep going, just keep going, make it up, improvise. And all that could come up with with balloon material. Just yeah. No, I like to think that was all scripted.
Starting point is 00:20:17 It's like the office. Yeah, it's so good. Yeah, you like, you're like, this gotta be improv, this gotta be like curb. So anyway. Yeah, you like you like this gotta be improwled. This gotta be like curb So anyway like to finish up our sloppy synopsis, you know Slum ops this Jared Paddlecki Rescuses sister the girl who you think will be the last girl wait a minute We didn't even address that she was she was all captive in his basement She was chained up in a basement where he seemed to forget that she was there
Starting point is 00:20:46 for long periods of time. But that was a girl from the first batch of kids who was getting killed. Do you think she dies, but nope, she's chained up in the basement. Yeah. And they free her, this one girl who went off with the brother and the brother free her,
Starting point is 00:20:58 they're running through the elaborate network of Viet Cong tunnels, beneath Jason's cabin. The girl, you think, the girl from this group who, like, Dancer, you think it's gonna be the last girl, she gets killed. Daniel Panabaker of TV Shark, all your TV stars. Oh, D-A Panabaker. Yeah, David, the famous documentary filmmaker. And so they, the brother gets beat up a little bit,
Starting point is 00:21:22 then they're running away, but then they, should we just get away the end of the movie? Oh, okay. It's a fucking... Right, a 13th movie. What is there to get away? They fight Jason, Jason gets strangled by a chain stuck in a wood chipper. We'll talk about that more later. Yeah. To use again. And don't forget, we had to talk, we had to compare Old and New Jason's. Yeah, yeah. But then they run over to... The nightmares finally over, right? Oh, the nightmares finally over. They take Jason's body, throw it in the water,
Starting point is 00:21:49 throw his hockey mask in the water, throw the pendant in the water. Uh-oh. Jason comes up, kills them both. Or you assume. You assume. It is possible that they defeat him again, and throw him in.
Starting point is 00:22:02 But the thing that was missing from me was when they kill him at the end. Did he was spinning pile driver doing it on that dock? Well, you're saying she might just come up and kick his head off. But no one says, before they kill him, no one says, hey, asshole, to get his attention and they do something. Yeah, there's no, hey, asshole, but the heroin, the lead female does get to say, say hi to mommy. Yeah, say say hi to mommy.
Starting point is 00:22:25 Yeah, like say hi to mommy and hell and like, hey, fuck you, karate kick, like all these things. But enda, she doesn't say karate kid, she kicks in like karate kid. I wish people, you said the things they did in karate kick. Stand with machete. Stand. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:42 Gunshot, gunshot, gunshot. And shit, Blender. That's how we did it in my really low budget radio play that I did. Well, you really need a low budget for it to be a low budget radio play. Yeah, we can't afford a sound effect CD. We did the Friday 13th music like this. Ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha cha a bit. He lit a fire under me. Crackle Crackle Crackle, crackle, cellophane, crackle, crackle, crackle. And he's wearing chain mail. Russell, Russell, Russell, Russell. Now I die. So basically Jason shows up one final scare and then cut to black guitar sound effects.
Starting point is 00:23:39 Jason will return in from Russia with blood. Yeah. Oh, so, um, okay, so we're, we're so we're talking about blood finger. So we're looking at the blood. The blood is not enough. We're looking at a Friday the 13th movie. So first of all, you have to really kind of, you have to look at it on a couple of different levels. First of all, how were the kills?
Starting point is 00:24:03 There were some okay. How was the nudity and then how- That was the okay ones. And then how was overall, how was Jason and his death? Mm-hmm. Okay, so first of all, the kills. Were the kills inventive in your opinion, Elliot? There were a few okay, like the bear trap was pretty good
Starting point is 00:24:17 and gory, like it really scraped his leg up from the roll. That's a great scale. But most of the kills were kind of lame. I thought the kind of stupid baked in the sleeping bag was kind of cool. That's a neat idea, but... It would have been cooler if it baked or so much that instead of her smoking body falling out, just a bunch of liquid and bones fell out. It would have to be incredibly hot to liquefy her.
Starting point is 00:24:41 Did I set off a nuclear blast? That's all it would have been really. I would have preferred that because it's grosser and funnier. But most of the first kill you don't even see on camera. Yeah, that's lame. And a lot of it's just stabbing people through stabbing things through people.
Starting point is 00:24:55 When he kills the guy in the tool shed, that's pretty good. He shoves this slice pretty good. Ice pick type thing into his neck, and there's blood everywhere. But it's not. There's something out of an Argento movie. Yeah, but it was it was just not. It made sense. Yeah, there was nothing to match. The inventiveness of say,
Starting point is 00:25:15 drag me to hell where with that eye shows up in the piece of cake and she stabs it and just fucking ooze comes out of it. That was pretty awesome. Or there's an anvil for some reason. And a shed suspended from the ceiling. But will any movie, any harm movie with a tool shed has to match up to Evil Dead 2, I feel like. The best harm movie with a tool shed in it, in my opinion. Well, yeah, and I'm not. But then you're also looking at,
Starting point is 00:25:38 you're comparing some of the past Friday the 13th. Yes. So there's, I don't think it's bag. There's nothing like, there's nothing quite as inventive as Friday the 13th miss. So there's, I don't think there's nothing like, there's nothing quite as inventive as Friday the 13th part, seven where he pulls the girl out of the, out of the tent, puts her back in her sleeping bag and then bashes her against a tree and it leaves a smiley face imprint. So that might be six. I will remember. The scene with the speedboat,
Starting point is 00:26:01 the speedboat kill was pretty good. That will was for the sheer ludicrousness of it well the Impressiveness of that bow shot. I mean a speed up in an Olympian he and his vision is obscured. He's running the hockey match. David's out here. His vision is obscured. He shoots an arrow Calculates the trajectory perfectly to hit a guy through the head. Yeah, I mean with enough force to drive it equally through his head completely through his head He has the strength of an English longbowman from the hundred years Yes, he should have been at Asian court. Yeah, absolutely and but then and the and the dot kill with that girl Was well because it did feature boobs and it was probably one of the few good shots of boobs for that girl Yeah, well, yeah, cuz the top of the screen is because of the top of the screen.
Starting point is 00:26:45 Surprisingly, yeah, although I have to believe that this film was sold on the basis of Topless Water Skin. Well, you know, I go, right, we want to make a remake Friday the 13th. I don't know, that's the series of Topless Water Skin. Where do I sign?
Starting point is 00:27:00 Exactly. Okay, so kills. Okay, so kills, well, it's a mixed bag, but there's some okay stuff. Compared to some of the other recent stuff I've seen, it had its okay ones and some were just kind of bland. Yeah, kind of boring, especially because at least there's a bit where he mounts the girl on the rack of like deer horns. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:20 And that was just done so much better in Silent Night, Deadly Night. Yeah, or even the similar, or even in the Halloween, in the first text of chance I'm asking with the meat hook. That's true. Yeah. The, so, mixed bag. Okay, what about the boobs? How are the boobs, Elliot? Why? I don't know why I'm rating everything, but there, so with the three sets of boobs that we see in this. Putting me in a, yeah, but there's a fair amount of being.
Starting point is 00:27:41 There's a fair amount of being. They're in a comfortable area. I don't know why that would be. Body part rating. No, but I mean, like, there's a fair amount of boobs and a comfortable area. I don't know why that would be body part rating No, but I mean like there's a fair amount of boobs So ultimately that's pretty that's pretty good for a Friday 13th or yeah Listen it delivered what it brought what a Friday 13th movie promises which is blood and women's boots Yeah, which is that irritating teenagers getting killed three out of five of the women on screen will get naked They they outdid it with the irritating though. There was no reason they had to be that irritating.
Starting point is 00:28:07 Like it was... So you feel that they went so far that you're genuinely like cheering for Jason, as opposed to caring at all for the... I think what the thing is like not even cheering for Jason, just like indifferent to what happens to these people. They're so irritating and such flat characters that I'm neither happy when they die or sad when they die. It's just like, oh yeah, there's another one. Well, what do you end up, you know? Let's put Jason down. You've become like those things that are desensitized. Exactly, desensitized to
Starting point is 00:28:36 this violence. And you just, you don't care anymore. Yeah, like if I wish they were, or if anything, just more realistically irritating, because like, just the fact that they were hanging out with each other and they didn't, they all seem to hate each other. Mm-hmm. Although they had a shared interest in, um, and we're hanging out with each other and we all, we all, we all hate each other. Mirror one, yeah. I think that's true.
Starting point is 00:28:56 I was amazed at the emphasis on that. Well, I'm paid to be here. That's why I'm here. The emphasis on marijuana was, was surprising to me. Really? It was just, well, that's the best way to get a bunch of teens in one place is all for a marijuana. It was just so, it was just like weird.
Starting point is 00:29:09 Like a drinking makes sense to me, but. Sure. Why would, like, there's fewer deaths per year caused by marijuana by the way, like, than drinking. That's true. Well, thanks for laying some truth down on me. Just thought I'd take you, I'll sign you to not you all. I'll sign your, I'll sign your petition.
Starting point is 00:29:25 I'll sign your petition steward, okay? We get off my back. But it's probably ham petition. It's, you can make rope out of it, dude. I know you can. Yeah, I know you can. Natural fibers. Yeah, constitution and everything.
Starting point is 00:29:37 Natural fibers. That's not just weed. Not just weed, dude. Well, and we got a real Jason. We got to rate Jason himself. Yeah, Jason and his deaths now I mean clearly this Jason isn't quite as good as some of the later zombified
Starting point is 00:29:50 Kane hotter Jason's I was gonna say he's no Kane hotter. Yeah, Kane hotter. What a what a what an actor and even he lumbered like nobody Even the fucking the next car law even the fucking huge dude from From Freddy versus Jason like the super giant dude giant dude, he was pretty good too. This guy was a little small. You get a couple weird glimpses of his like, stumbly, wumbly face. Well, he even got weird sort of effort to humanize Jason in this one, to some degree, where he's like, oh, Jason's just a guy who has like tunnels under his house and puts bear traps around. Like, he's more like a crazy, like backwoods, like hillbilly killer than like.
Starting point is 00:30:29 But most of the time when he's killing people, it's just like the only time you really see Jason on screen is when he's literally killing somebody or like standing just behind them. Yeah. You don't really get many like character moments where it's like other than him picking up the mask and putting it up, finding the hockey mask
Starting point is 00:30:44 and putting it on, it's almost all just him like chasing people. There's not a lot of moments where you get an actual feeling of Jason the character. You know, like in Jason X, where he walks out into the corridor on this spaceship, and there's this moment of like, oh, I guess I'm in space. Well, it's like this.
Starting point is 00:31:00 Get to go find somebody to kill. There's a scene in the first Halloween when he kills the first guy kills in the house I guess and they just kind of looks at him and turns his head a little bit like this moment Where you almost see a little bit of how Michael Myers thinks like And yeah, there's nothing like that here Jason just existed to appear behind people and then stab them Yeah, and also he you know and he could teleport he'd be so yeah That's let's keep it woods and then suddenly he's standing on the roof of the house then suddenly he's in the bathroom
Starting point is 00:31:29 That's you know, it doesn't make I almost wish there were more shots of Jason like chasing people through the house or through like There's a lot of running him disappearing. I love it. I love to see him like Burst in through the window or literally like running up the stairs with an actionist hand or the burst up through a dock at the very end of the grant. Oh, he did that. If they really departed from the the Friday the 13th mythology and then like there was like a crazy twist to the end we're like you see like five Jason's walk. Yeah, it's like an old text every cartoon
Starting point is 00:32:08 Could be I Think there was more than one Jason It was a rabbit Or it cuts to like a weird house at the very end of a bunch of Jason's just like hanging out and one goes like Go to go to work Mask and ladies a guy walks in punches is a card and another Jason puts his mask on, punches his card, and walks out. What do I like about the moment you're talking about in Jason X, where he's in space? Because it's just like, well, my job is killing people.
Starting point is 00:32:36 Whether at a camper in space, gotta get to it. But uh, there's probably, there are any teenagers having sex or anything. I mean, Jason has always been the most mindless of these type of killers in the movies. I feel like. Um, yeah, well, we'll gloss over that comment. Oh, wow. Uh, burns. Do it is a lot of affection for a guy who just goes around. A giant like, I prefer when he's like a giant zombie dude. Well, no, he's much, but well, that's the thing.
Starting point is 00:33:04 The, the, when he's a killer in the original fight of the 13 movies, he's dead already pretty much. I mean, not really until the, until the sixth one. He said the end of the, the end of the first movie is kid Jason jumping out of the lake. Yeah. So he has to be a zombie by that point already, unless he was a murder person. I don't, he might be a murder person. I don't think so. So like in the second movie, I assume that he's like,
Starting point is 00:33:27 a zombie kid who becomes a zombie adult. In the second one, he's like a crazy hillbilly with a bag on his head. He's got the burlap sack on his head. And he's wearing like overalls. It was like they were trying to do like the first three Jason movies in one movie. And then the third one is the 3D one,
Starting point is 00:33:40 where there's tons of like, yo, yo, who's going toward the screen? The camera, the Crispin Gloverna. No, that's the fourth one. That there's tons of like yo-yo's going toward the camera. Like, Crispin Glover, no, that's the fourth one. That one's actually really good. That's the one where... Well, it's really great about that one. There's that awesome bit where this chick is taking a shower with her boyfriend. Sure. She leaves him in the shower. She goes to do her hair or something. So, you can do it later. And then she goes back to check on her boyfriend.
Starting point is 00:34:02 Jason's already killed this dude, okay? She starts flipping out, as you would expect. And she goes running, running around upstairs, and then she goes running down the stairs toward the front door. Boom, Axe goes flying through the front door, hits her in the chest. So Jason not only went up and killed this guy, but then he said the body, he's like, I'm gonna go outside, she's gonna come running toward the door, acts without even looking. That's how I really, I wish that they'd,
Starting point is 00:34:28 what's like showing off at that point. I wish that her running cut to Jason's standing there, stock still, acts in hand, ready to throw, cut to her running, cut back to Jason's still standing still, act like a ticker. Yeah, exactly. Maybe his arm is sort of straining because I can't hold this act for her.
Starting point is 00:34:44 Then you feel sympathy for him. You know, is he gonna be able to do this? He's like a craftsman at that point. Well, yeah. The one I saw the most when I was a kid was Jason Takes Manhattan. Okay. Only because it was terrible,
Starting point is 00:34:58 but that's for whatever reason that seemed to be the one that was not. Like, such opportunity squandered. Like, the very title, Jason Takes Manhattan, you're like, this is gonna be the one that was on that. Like, such, such, uh, opportunity squandered. Like, the very title, Jason takes Manhattan, you're like, this is gonna be the best one ever. We're gonna give him the key to the city. Jason, you have taken a Manhattan My Store. He stars in a Broadway show.
Starting point is 00:35:16 Dinner at the Waldorf. And then most of the film is spent on a boat, going to Manhattan. There's very little Manhattan. And then when you get to Manhattan, it's Toronto. There was something about the image of Jason on the subway walking through subway cars and no one really bothered to notice him. That's the one they should remake.
Starting point is 00:35:34 Jason takes Manhattan. Yeah, make it a real like Jason. Make it a mashup. Jason, pick in the city. Yeah, Jason and the Muppets take Manhattan, big in the city. Yeah, I like that. And at the end, at the end miss thing he says Hey asshole and then and then does one of those
Starting point is 00:35:52 The okay, so Jason Jason already Jason's death at the end they clearly you know they wanted saving for that final scare They also didn't want to fuck him up too much. Yeah, they could be like hey, we got Jason for the next movie if you want to watch it And you're like, oh you meld in the acid. We can't watch that guy. I get much. So they could be like, hey, we got Jason for the next movie if you want to watch it. And you're like, oh, you meld in the nest. And we can't watch that guy. I get these like a blob or something. So they didn't do that.
Starting point is 00:36:11 What they did do was they wrapped like a chain around his neck. And then they threw one end of the chain into a woodchipper. Now, I don't use a woodchipper regularly. I'm sure some of our listeners do, but uh, lumberjacks. I would imagine if you throw all the X-men who listened to this. I would imagine if you throw a chain into a woodchipper, it's not just gonna like drag it through, like somebody who accidentally got their tie caught.
Starting point is 00:36:36 No, it's gonna screw up that machine. It would fuck it up really bad. Yeah, fair, that was a pretty heavy duty woodchipper. That was not like one of your like, you don't get that at like Walmart. That was like an industrial duty wood chipper. That was not like one of your like, you don't get that at Walmart. That was like an industrial strength wood chipper. Either way, it's still rotating rods with spikes on the end. That's what it was.
Starting point is 00:36:52 I'm sure like the first rule you learn in wood chipper school is don't fucking throw metal chain. But the wood chipper works fine. It just chips up that chain and it drags Jason towards it. Wood chipper school, that's like a technical college right? That's well Credit it. No, that's a doctor. That's a doctor. I agree. Yeah, they also have a pretty good liberal arts program Wow, so of course it's drag him in chips He's dragging him in and like the wood shippers dragging me is like, oh, I'm dying
Starting point is 00:37:21 But I still want to grab this girl and kill her and then she's like hey dickhead Say hello to your mom in hell and stabs him with his own machete. Oh my God, who saw it coming? Ironic. Yeah. Very ironic. He died as he lived. With the machete.
Starting point is 00:37:36 Not at all. Not at all. And then, of course, they're like, well, you know, this brother and sister, they're like all of our friends are dead. There's blood everywhere. We're probably injured in some way. Like we've a lot of ash my head into a fucking We have a lot of questions. And say I'm a freshman to the police.
Starting point is 00:37:54 Yeah, I think the Including the dead cop that's on the door. Sorry, the dead chief of police or whatever. He was in some of the way there's pretty much a one cop town. Yeah, sure. He's the sheriff and the sheriff's dead. No, like, you know what? There's no way we're going to be able to explain this. or whatever. Sure. It's pretty much a one cop town. Yeah. He's the sheriff and the sheriff's debut. No, like, you know what?
Starting point is 00:38:06 There's no way we're going to be able to explain this. Let's just toss this dead body in the lake. Let's wait till daylight. Toss the body in the lake. Throw his mask in there. Throw that magical amulet that we stole from this house. You know what? This amulet was the one thing that could distract him long enough to stop him from killing
Starting point is 00:38:23 people. Let's throw Clearly Well, Amy lit to sounds cooler than lock it It is a lock it with two pictures one of which is scratched out I got a walk it in my pocket So they throw him in there and they're like oh you the nightmare is over and then you the audience Clearly it is because Jason comes back who is having taken the time to put his mask back on the course. They throw the mask
Starting point is 00:38:49 in separate late. So he's swimming around underwater. I'm going to say, I'm looking for his mask. Finally, finally, fine. I got to find him before they get off the dock. Yep. And they hang around, of course. I, one of the things I did like in the movie was the long lingering shots of the decaying toys in Jason's house. Every time someone went back to his house there were different rotting toys to it for the camera to look at yeah you think you think you go we've been talking for a long time guys because uh it goes to like a 2j max
Starting point is 00:39:15 and we can get out of here okay we love we love Friday the 13th so much but let's quick final final judgment stand. Final judgment. Duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh liked in some way. Um, hell, I'll start from once. Whoa. I can't enjoy this movie. I mean, like, don't get me wrong. It's not good. But also, don't get me wrong. No Friday, the 13th movies are really any good.
Starting point is 00:40:00 I know that Stewart is a ball of rage. Stewart puts on hockey mask. But Stewart picks up a shetty. But you know, like, you need to kill all of them. Shut up, dead mom. Stop, get off my back, dead mom. They've managed to make tens of movies with absolutely no plot, basically.
Starting point is 00:40:22 Scott kills people, repeat. Yeah. And yet I have fondness for them. I don't know whether it's just nostalgia. Yes. But as far as like a remake goes, like, you know, the same guy, Marcus Nisbel, I don't know how he pronounce it again. Marcus Wellby. He did the Texas Chainsaw Masker remake,
Starting point is 00:40:42 which I feel like really totally miss the boat in terms of tone and capturing what's interesting about the original movie but it was way closer to friday the thirteenth and it was yeah uh... takes change on the but this movie like captured uh... the spirit of friday thirteenth movie and so much as there is one yeah that's true and uh... i I sort of enjoyed it on that level I mean like I wouldn't I don't think I would have enjoyed it sitting at home alone but this is an
Starting point is 00:41:09 okay moving to the square yeah I'd be I'd be scared I'd be scared I would not be able to get asleep Ellie what do you think I kind of agree with Dan I didn't like it as much as him but it was in fun to watch with you guys it's really stupid and there were some good Gore effects in it. And women take their tops off. And, you know, it was, it was, it was not, it was short and it was not slow. So right there, it got some of the things right about a Friday 13th movie. Like it moves fast. There's a pretty high body count.
Starting point is 00:41:45 Jason doesn't quite have as much character as he would like, but you know, he wears a hockey mask and he kills people with a machete, so. Yeah, I think I'm gonna agree with both you guys. Like I think this was fun to watch. It wasn't like great. No, there's no, God no. There's no telecom.
Starting point is 00:42:02 Don't take this as a requirement, date. It's not the life and death of Colonel Blimp, you know There's no telekinetic girl battling Jason. You never you never get in Glover Yeah, he never gets brought back to life by lightning hitting a steel pole and his chest somebody accidentally stuffs into his zombie chest So none of that stuff happens, but yeah, you know, there's a body count. There's nudity There's some killing in it, what I already said that. But yeah, it basically does everything it needs to do. It's a little lazy.
Starting point is 00:42:30 It is very lazy. It's a little uninspired, but you know, it was an hour and 25 minutes or something, probably. Yeah. Until they make Jason and the Argonauts Friday the 13th part of the lab. But I mean, if I have any feedback It's that they really had no need to make to call this like a remake
Starting point is 00:42:49 They could just made it Friday the 13th part whatever 12 13 right now There was there was nothing nothing new about it that if for a remake or a reimagining if he was very close to the Formula and it acknowledges that there's a past to this character Yeah, like it he there's a past to this character. Yeah. There's that flashback at the beginning is kind of unintelligible if you don't really know the Jason story already. I mean, they don't even have to call it a remake.
Starting point is 00:43:16 They could just every other year release a movie titled Friday the 13th and just keep making fucking movies like this. And I'll probably keep watching them because I like watching Stupid teenagers get killed Wow, that's why you're a zero. That's gonna be played back in court Didn't mean oh no So I don't actually have a letter read but I do want to you read all those letters last time when I wasn't here
Starting point is 00:43:45 Yeah, I'm sure I'm letter Dear Dan, I'll be your friend love Dan. Well, you're the best member of the fluff ass I do have one email, but I'm gonna I think that'll hold off on it Tell the next show because I don't know long, but um, no, you can look forward. How you tease this? I am teasing I'm teasing you What if you read the email we don't do recommendations wow wow break with uh... yeah why don't you read the email then
Starting point is 00:44:12 you don't you'd rather email them recommendations i don't i actually don't have a recommendation i don't have anything in particular yeah this shit's all gonna get out of that so just go out of the email alright because we all because we all liked Friday the 13th sort of, why don't you take that as our recommended.
Starting point is 00:44:26 You know what, if you want to watch a piece of crap and have a good time, watch this one, don't go see Transformers. Done. I'm going to see Transformers the LA this week at Pooz. No. Michael Bay, give us free tickets. So, thank you.
Starting point is 00:44:39 It was me. I love that this movie is that it doesn't say produced by Michael Bay's in association with Michael Bay. That's awesome. At the beginning of Friday the 13th. Well, he's like, like, uh... Like he was hanging out on the set, and they made it. Well, somebody was like, call them up on their cell phone, they're like,
Starting point is 00:44:54 Hey, Michael Bay, we're making this movie, got any advice? Okay, tap us water, skinny, okay, that's what we'll do. You're a genius, Mickey B. So, this is from Ben last name withheld from Lakewood, Colorado. Crystal Lakewood. Uh-huh. Lake Colorado.
Starting point is 00:45:10 Yeah. And it's titled Kudos to Youdos. I think he miscaled Youdos. Youdos? Yeah. You're miscaled Youdos. Kudos to Youdos. It's like when Star Wars Episode 2 came out
Starting point is 00:45:25 and it had that lightsaber duel between Yoda and Count Ducu at the end, they put out an ad after the movie had opened that showed that just that scene and it went, Yoda man. Oh, man. Star Wars Episode 2, Yoda man. And this very cheap computer lettering
Starting point is 00:45:40 of Yoda man, exclamation point. Look, come up on screen. That's the end. It was, I've never watched it never watched him be like seriously? Like this is mad for a star worst movie? Kudos, kudos, the Yoda's is the uh, is the New York Post headline for Yoda beating candy, the Unified. So the Madness was like make way for ducklings. Make way for Duke Links. I'm going to say that. I'm going to say that. I'm going to say that.
Starting point is 00:46:06 I'm going to say that. I'm going to say that. I'm going to say that. I'm going to say that. I'm going to say that. I'm going to say that. I'm going to say that. I'm going to say that.
Starting point is 00:46:22 I'm going to say that. I'm going to say that. I'm going to say that. I'm going to say that. I'm Or when you started, I was in here. I got to say your batters were some of the finest quality we found out in the podcast universe. Thank you. Please keep, please keep cranking out the episodes. Part of the verse. And don't ever change. That's very nice of you.
Starting point is 00:46:36 Last name with help. He is a recommendation. I don't think that we're going to do this as a movie because it's an indie film. Is this what he's saying? Or you? this is me comment you're gonna what he says okay why don't you just read what he says this is like the tomahead you got to read the actual text and the criticism of the
Starting point is 00:46:53 text and right well he says I wanted to throw a movie recommendation out your way and my Colorado neighborhood library I stumbled across a movie titled subdivision comma Colorado it is a small budget locally made movie by the stumbled across a movie titled Subdivision, Kamakalarado. It is a small budget locally made movie by the charming quartet of young adults who get caught up in an amazing adventure rooted in some sort of supernatural treasure hunt across the mystical Rocky Mountain. I like it already. I like to think of it as a love child between the goonies and an episode of the Nickelodeon
Starting point is 00:47:20 TV show Hey Dude. Well I need to throw out my screenplay now. Thank you. The movie is straight up terrible, but I consider it to be so awful that it would squarely fall into your category of good bad movie, especially if you view it as a group whilst taking part in alcoholic libations. Not me. Yeah, T-Totler.
Starting point is 00:47:38 T-Totler, just like Lincoln. Uh, I seriously think that this could even finally oust the brats movie from its number one one whoa I was on your side until then uh... calm down my only concern is that such as you seem to mostly go after mainstream movies this film
Starting point is 00:47:57 I'd be too obscure and you may have difficulty finding in new york email field guilty poking fun and a movie made by a struggling filmmaker that's more like it But please try to push this guilt aside your inclusion of this movie on your program may actually do it good propel again forward into cult status I think that he's overestimating our I know this could be our man-os. Yeah, yep. Well, we're propelting into cult status by mentioning on this. It's called subdivision Colorado. Yeah. My love is, it's an adventure movie that has a name that sounds like a housing subdivision.
Starting point is 00:48:30 Like it sounds like a planned community. Yeah, I mean, it has a lot to learn from mom and dad, save the world. Or twin-sitters. Oh, twin-sitters. Both of those movies tell you right what you're in for. You look in a city of some twins, baby, sit. you're gonna see mom and dad save the world all these things um whereas my life as a dog that got us turned into a dog once now what the fuck
Starting point is 00:48:52 boring boring stick to the shaggy d.a. huh what I love about that is like that either that's the logical progression like all right and the first movie is just a shaggy dog the second one is gonna be runningaggy dog. And the second movie. He's gonna be running for District Attorney. Exactly, it's a big deal.
Starting point is 00:49:07 He knows he has a problem with turning into dogs. You know what, he'll take on a position of authority as the District Attorney. Wasn't an art idea, Elliot, that it would have been a better movie if it was the shaggy dog catcher. Like, in terms of like Greek tragedy, it was like born. He's gonna betray his own type.
Starting point is 00:49:22 Sure. It ends with him leading himself to be put to sleep. Oh. So sad. Don't blame me, blame Aescalus. Nope. blame Euripides. The Epid's Euripides.
Starting point is 00:49:35 After we finished the Bokai, he wrote the Shaggy Dog Catcher. On a similar note of recommending good bad movies that are too obscure to talk about on the show. I saw a movie called Street Revenge that a friend of mine was the boom mic operator on. And he's like, you gotta see this, not a good movie. And if you can find it, I recommend it. I have no idea what happened in the movie. I watched it just two nights ago. It could not follow the plot, but brilliant, bad filmmaking. So uh...
Starting point is 00:50:10 Sounds good. Street revenge is called. Yeah. Sounds good. Okay, so what else do we have to do here? Well, I did want to say we got a comment on the last show from a super fan, Cassinia. Am I saying that right, Ali? Cassinia. Yeah. You don't want to put too much space between super fan, Cassinia. Am I saying that right, Ali? Cassinia. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:26 You don't want to put too much space between the camera. Cassinia. All right, Cassinia. Lovely person. Cassinia. Cassinia. And she mentioned that strangely enough,
Starting point is 00:50:36 head of the family is available on Netflix. Holy shit. That it wasn't, but it's actually on DVD and you can get it through Netflix, whereas Paul Schrader's blue collar is not. Really? Because that is on DVD. Yeah, very strong.
Starting point is 00:50:49 And that DVD might be out of print. To make a additional footnote, I actually put it on my Netflix cube right after recommending it. I apologize for the mistake. Well, I did too, after your great description. Yeah, we should watch it together. All right. Can I watch it with you guys?
Starting point is 00:51:05 No. No, you're gonna be watching Transformers Revenge with that one. No, I don't wanna watch Transformers Revenge of the Fallen. I literally just wish I could watch the scenes where robots do stupid things. Yep, like fart and make
Starting point is 00:51:18 like fart and have balls. Like fart and have balls. And have human style testicles. I do wanna take this opportunity to plug Cassinius started a Zine magazine. It's like a magazine. Yeah, it's like a magazine, but it happened in the early 90s
Starting point is 00:51:34 and not so much anymore. Oh, come on. Is it made on graph paper? She's going to be taking part in a Zine fair. There you go. No, I'm in total support. I'm plugging it on the show. But she's putting out a Zine.
Starting point is 00:51:44 It's called, I love bad movies There's stuff that both Ellie and I wrote in it The zine convention. Yeah, yes, I heard good pictures at least drop the ball Zine convention on Saturday, so by the time this comes out I can do some valentine for the next one if you guys You can do some what I do some like modeling for some photographs. Well they don't have to be nude. I mean like I want to leave something to the imagination. I think it will wear like a like a like a strange belt. I see a link tutorial with you for your discreetly covering yourself with a giant mustache.
Starting point is 00:52:22 Yep. Well I'm sure she'll get in touch with you. But I'll put a link to where you can buy the Zine online on the show notes. That would be great. And I also wanted to, Elliot, you're doing a movie screening series. Do you want to plug that? Yeah, I'd love to. I am now, I'm hosting a monthly film screening series
Starting point is 00:52:42 at the 92nd Street, why Tribeca in New York on 200 Hudson Street, that we had our first showing last month, which was the thin man. And this month, July, this coming month, July 15th, I guess it's not last month, and June we watched the man. July 15th we'll be watching the Devil and Daniel Webster and I'll be introducing it and giving a short
Starting point is 00:53:03 brief talk afterwards, just about things that are interesting about it and then August taking a break and then September I'm gonna show Love me tonight and October will be the old dark house Wow so and Most of these will have on film. They've been able to secure actual film prints of them So July 15th 8 p.m. The and Daniel Webster, if you go to the 92 Y Tribeca website, you can buy tickets.
Starting point is 00:53:32 It'll be a lot of fun. If you've never seen the movie, it's a great movie. Yeah. And if you want to see Elliot in person, talk about a movie that's good. Yeah. It's watching movie and possibly have Dan and I in the audience. Yeah. Yeah. You might have a pop house reunion there
Starting point is 00:53:47 Oh, man, the devil and Danny Websters a lot of fun. It's both very creepy Very corny there are a lot of scenes that are like old-fashioned cornpone and then scenes that are genuinely like This is really like we like weird and kind of scary from You recommended it on the show so there's a connection. There's a connection there. And the other ones will be a lot of fun too. But I'll unplug them as, you know, when we get closer. Please come by, it'll be a lot of fun. And I guarantee a good movie, and I'll try not to talk too long.
Starting point is 00:54:14 And I would like to also plug a sketch group that I'm in is doing shows. The first four Fridays in July at the magnet theater in New York. If you Google the magnet theater, you'll find the website. The sketch group is called Mr. White Pants. The Mr. White Pants Comedy Hour. The first four Fridays in July at 7 p.m. You can come see us.
Starting point is 00:54:34 It's only $5. So come on out. Stuart, would you like to plug anything? No, I have nothing to plug. Plug your mustache. OK, it's pretty impressive. It's rich and lustrous. And I bought some jeans. Yeah, you were excited about that. You probably haven't bought jeans for 10 years. Yeah, when was the last time you bought jeans? 10 years ago. Back when they
Starting point is 00:54:57 acid washed. Yeah, absolutely. Yep. I want. They're so old that they don't I got I got sports jeans because I really like DC Slater back then Okay, so This has been the flop house, right? Yeah, this has been the flop house has been that at that indeed Well, you can check us out at WW dot flop house podcast House podcast podcast dot blog the flop house podcast dot block plot that's not for flop flop flop house dot flop spot blog spot house cast dot edee which uh...
Starting point is 00:55:30 i had to drop this in uh... the four-muchin sketch group mister white pants if you go to mister white pants dot com that's actually a gay porn site focused on men and white pants i'm not getting but that don't go to that site no unless you are interested in my focused on men and white pants. I'm not kidding. So don't go to that site. No unless you are interested in men like aquafan.com the last porn site that we accidentally plugged on the show. Anyway, I still have an head sex underwater. No me that's why I haven't posted on that site yet. One posting that says sex underwater. Anybody done it and no other postings. Let us
Starting point is 00:56:05 cite. Moral is for the flop house. I've been Dan McCoy. I've been steward Wellington. I continue to be Elliot Kalen. Good night. You're a wickin? I was I'm a wickin. Yeah. He's coming out as a wickin. I was I was just working for the weekend. Working for the weekend. Hey guys, it's weekend for the weekend. Oh, this is everybody's working for the weekends. Guys, it's almost 10, 2 hours.
Starting point is 00:56:34 TGIF, you know what I mean? Yup, that's when my Friday starts midnight on Thursday night. Hahaha!

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