The Flop House - The Flop House: Episode #75 - Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time
Episode Date: February 17, 2011p.p1 {margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px; line-height: 20.0px; font: 13.0px 'Trebuchet MS'; color: #cccccc} 0:00 - 0:35 - Introduction and theme 0:36 - 33:09 - We spend a little time discussing Prince of... Persia: The Sands of Time and way too much time discussing Duckberg and its inhabitants. 33:10 - 36:53- Final judgments 36:54 - 53:14 - A super-sized Movie Mail Bag, including some Oscar talk 53:15 - 58:29- The sad bastards recommend 58:30 - 59:41 - Goodbyes, theme, and outtakes. Go to www.flophousepodcast.com and click on our shiny new donate button to support the show.
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                                         Like sands through the hourglass, so are the flop house hosts wasting their lives.
                                         
                                         We discuss Prince of Persia, and I'm Stuart Wellington.
                                         
                                         I am Elliot Kaelin, just getting not a robot.
                                         
                                         Well, decided to do weird voices for some reason.
                                         
                                         Well last time we had such luck with made up voices. Yeah. What? Never. No way. We were making it. We did a bunch of stupid voices.
                                         
                                         We were pretending to do. No, we just said things in stupid ways. We didn't really do voice. Well, I was doing voice.
                                         
                                         I was doing my Gary Marshall impression, which was a couple of types of ways. That was spot on, right? Yeah.
                                         
                                         After words, I listened to the podcast and I had Gary Marshall say the same things.
                                         
    
                                         I know this is like, wait, Stuart, I'm a little worried that you have Gary Marshall,
                                         
                                         uh, turned up in your, your, your, your, your, your.
                                         
                                         No, you mean many Marshall, the tiny Gary Marshall that lives in your pocket?
                                         
                                         Yep.
                                         
                                         I wanted to make very small movies for me, but I want them to be tightly packed with characters and jokes
                                         
                                         Geez
                                         
                                         That's not rest on our laurels though. It's not just
                                         
                                         We're gonna rest on our hardies. I don't oh get it Laurel and hardies
                                         
    
                                         Anything about the hardies chain of restaurants.
                                         
                                         I'd love to rest there too.
                                         
                                         I'm not resting on our Carl's Jr. guys.
                                         
                                         Anything so we don't have to talk about the movie tonight.
                                         
                                         Well, what movie? The movie was called Prince of Persia, Colin.
                                         
                                         Yeah, the Sans of Time.
                                         
                                         What?
                                         
                                         To differentiate it from all the other Prince of Persia.
                                         
    
                                         Yeah, I guess the successful Prince of Persia series that goes back years,
                                         
                                         I guess they're differentiating from the video game,
                                         
                                         except for the fact that I guess there is also a video game name.
                                         
                                         It's much the way that Hot Dog the movie was called that,
                                         
                                         so people would know it was not a hot dog that you could eat.
                                         
                                         People were going into the theater, they're like,
                                         
                                         oh, it's $12. That's a pretty expensive.
                                         
                                         This would be a pretty good hot dog. They'd sit down and see it watch a movie and they they're like, oh, it's $12. That's a pretty expensive car. This would be a pretty good hot dog.
                                         
    
                                         But they'd sit down and see it watch a movie and they'd be like,
                                         
                                         yeah, this movie's fine, but where's the hot dog?
                                         
                                         It can like shag, right?
                                         
                                         Because you went and you're like, I'll have one shag, please.
                                         
                                         Like, what's that?
                                         
                                         What's that?
                                         
                                         I didn't want that.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
    
                                         I want a movie.
                                         
                                         People were in there thinking that they're going to get
                                         
                                         carpeting.
                                         
                                         They're going to get a haircut.'re gonna get you know a nice screw a
                                         
                                         comfortable screw I get shagged no no shut it down shut this one down
                                         
                                         since of time Prince of Persia so that's the movie we watched a epic blockbuster
                                         
                                         of non-persions like a pirate saying the Persian dead man's
                                         
                                         chest. It was it definitely felt like it was this was the pirates of the
                                         
    
                                         Caribbean knockoff you know but learned a few of the lessons of that film.
                                         
                                         Yes it was more of a Pirates the Caribbean too. Uh-huh. Two shades of blue.
                                         
                                         There's a...
                                         
                                         Jake...
                                         
                                         So it was called...
                                         
                                         Yeah, we pulled it back there.
                                         
                                         I like it.
                                         
                                         Yep.
                                         
    
                                         Trying to keep us on track, but crazy, Dan.
                                         
                                         Words sound like other words.
                                         
                                         We could have done it.
                                         
                                         Jake Schillin-Hall was in this movie.
                                         
                                         He was.
                                         
                                         Alfred Mullin. Alfred Mullin-Hallin-Hall have to practice to pronounce the star of the movie's name correctly?
                                         
                                         I'm familiar with the work of his sister, primarily in...
                                         
                                         In her name is?
                                         
    
                                         Dominant Submission theme.
                                         
                                         Film such a secretary.
                                         
                                         And I think that's the only one.
                                         
                                         What's her name?
                                         
                                         I forgot her first name.
                                         
                                         Really?
                                         
                                         Maggie. Maggie Jillin Hall. What's what is her name? I forgot her first name really Maggie
                                         
                                         Maggie Jill and Hall yeah and
                                         
    
                                         Maggie are Jill and all the Hungarian actress and this movie also had Alfred Molina and Gimma Archer 10 and let's not forget
                                         
                                         Benjamin Kingsley Jim Archer 10 who is Ben Kingsley up yet into
                                         
                                         The kind of Catherine Hygol, Gerard Butler territory where he's been in a lot
                                         
                                         of different flop house movies.
                                         
                                         He's been in it too.
                                         
                                         He's been in it too.
                                         
                                         Sound of Thunder.
                                         
                                         We talked about doing blood rain, but we didn't actually ever.
                                         
    
                                         No, I just watched that for fun.
                                         
                                         Watch that for fun, Z.
                                         
                                         It's a pleasure.
                                         
                                         What else?
                                         
                                         Was he in anything else?
                                         
                                         Maybe he wasn't, but he's been in so many
                                         
                                         words probably in the last airbender
                                         
                                         Everybody was in fucking Valentine's day. Yeah, one who's bald wasn't either guy was uh wasn't either one with
                                         
    
                                         Jennifer Garner
                                         
                                         No, that was that's a creature. That's America. No, you're thinking of Patrick Dempsey. Oh, okay.
                                         
                                         You know what it not even balls.
                                         
                                         I mean, he could have worn a wig.
                                         
                                         He wore a wig and blood rain.
                                         
                                         Yeah, it's true.
                                         
                                         Or the wig wore him.
                                         
                                         He depends on how you ask, because it's a pretty good wig.
                                         
    
                                         So what was this movie all about?
                                         
                                         There was Sands of Time or?
                                         
                                         Sands of there were Princess of Persia.
                                         
                                         There was Sands of Times. So Jake Jake when I think of Persia I think of
                                         
                                         carpets which of which there were a nine you think of Paisley nine in this yeah I
                                         
                                         think of the guys who battled a 300 you think of slippers yeah, Persian Japanese uh-huh Um, magic lamps. So what do we get? What do we get here?
                                         
                                         Because
                                         
                                         Sure, no, who cares? That's
                                         
    
                                         I'm amazed that there was no genie character in this movie
                                         
                                         That's the I'm kind of surprised now that there was that there was not an appearance by a wisecracker and genie
                                         
                                         Yeah, I mean all of us Aladdin. This is a world where magic exists
                                         
                                         Yeah, very much like an oversight that there's no genie. Yeah
                                         
                                         Maybe that was it that was a cut sub-loch hopefully in real life
                                         
                                         This was two hours long in 20 years. They will go back and insert the genie character to make this movie what it was always meant to be
                                         
                                         So we Prince of Persia call in the sands of time colon special edition
                                         
                                         Yeah, I mean is original vision featured a genie in the back
                                         
    
                                         Just making faces to distract you from how boring everything was
                                         
                                         Well, yeah, it wasn't boring originally
                                         
                                         Because the genie was there. Yeah, it was like you're getting two movies for the prize
                                         
                                         Yeah, there were special glasses. It's crazy. Genie glasses. Yeah, so here's its Persia
                                         
                                         Olden times. Yeah, everybody speaks with an English accent olden times. Everybody speaks with an English accent.
                                         
                                         And everybody is white and speaks with an English accent. Where they, where they, olden times,
                                         
                                         were they selected the papyrus font on the credits machine. The credit to credit a tricks
                                         
                                         in the 5,000. So a king of Persia sees a street urchin, a young boy.
                                         
    
                                         Was there a prophecy or anything?
                                         
                                         No, no, no, there was kind of text in the beginning
                                         
                                         that said some lives are linked through time
                                         
                                         and they have a destiny, but there's no like chosen one type.
                                         
                                         Well, actually, there is at the end of the movie.
                                         
                                         But anyway, sees a kid bravely fighting in soldiers to save another kid and the king says,
                                         
                                         I like that kid's moxie.
                                         
                                         I'm going to adopt that orphan and make him a prince.
                                         
    
                                         And that kid grows up to be Jake Gyllenhaal.
                                         
                                         So I'm assuming that we're skipping over the part where the king molests this child.
                                         
                                         That part doesn't appear on screen.
                                         
                                         Because the king is just picking an orphan off the street and taking it home with him. It is a little bit like the opening of different strokes, but
                                         
                                         the one with the scary music over it. So it looks like Conrad Bain is kidnapping those
                                         
                                         two children. I'm out of Conrad Bain was the king in his release. Listen, if Conrad Bain
                                         
                                         Kingsley feel about this. Ben Kingsley, the king's brother, didn't like it. He finds it
                                         
                                         to be insulting that street trash is living in the palace with the two
                                         
    
                                         with the two real princes who are both
                                         
                                         Wusses of the highest order and
                                         
                                         One of them looks kind of like if Simon Pegg was playing Jesus and the other one is like a what's what's
                                         
                                         The darker skin to clearly not related to the other guy. Yes yes and what's and who's the guy to play screen lantern
                                         
                                         ryan Reynolds ryan Reynolds it was like a thinner
                                         
                                         swarther your ryan Reynolds is the bruh is the bruh with the goatee
                                         
                                         i didn't get a look at his abs so i couldn't see the comparison
                                         
                                         we're just calling for a figure into this he's a he's a boy all right he actually
                                         
    
                                         doesn't appear in this all right that's a that's the king of England the
                                         
                                         king actually takes place at least,
                                         
                                         I'm gonna say 900 years after this movie.
                                         
                                         Well, I was confused, Alec, because all of these versions
                                         
                                         of time, all these versions had an English accent.
                                         
                                         We're still English with a British accent.
                                         
                                         And without a stutter.
                                         
                                         That's because in the past, everyone had English accents.
                                         
    
                                         Right, all foreigners were English.
                                         
                                         Stuart pointed out, well, we're watching it,
                                         
                                         that's the old accent.
                                         
                                         That's the old time.
                                         
                                         It's old times, yep.
                                         
                                         Just like green slaves is the theme,
                                         
                                         so on to the middle ages.
                                         
                                         It required Jake Gyllenhaal to put on
                                         
    
                                         an unintelligible English accent.
                                         
                                         Yeah, Jake Gyllenhaal has the second sleepiest
                                         
                                         performance of his career, think after brothers okay, but
                                         
                                         Flash forward to the present by which I mean the past Jake Gyllenhaal is a grown man and the best fighter and
                                         
                                         Acrobat of the family
                                         
                                         They are sent on a mission to do something and
                                         
                                         Ben Kingsley tricks them into tricks the princes
                                         
                                         into attacking a holy city which has a magic dagger in it which is guarded by
                                         
    
                                         a princess played by Jim Martin and their battle plan revolves around Jake
                                         
                                         Jill and all doing some free climbing up the whole well this movie is based on a
                                         
                                         platform jumping video games there's a lot of Jake Jill and Hall climbing up the wall. Yeah, well, this movie is based on a platform jumping video games. There's a lot of Jake Gyllenhaal climbing up stuff and jumping off a thing.
                                         
                                         Let's not gloss over the fact too that they're attacking to find these magical weapons.
                                         
                                         Well, they've been told that that don't actually exist.
                                         
                                         They've been told that WMD's guys, WMD's.
                                         
                                         Oh, they've been told that this city is selling is making weapons to sell their
                                         
                                         enemies but it's not it's all a trick so what are you saying that yeah you saying
                                         
    
                                         Iraq has a fucking magic dagger with the same time that's what you say yeah we should
                                         
                                         go over there and take that we did already oh we did yeah that's why everything's
                                         
                                         out of sand though so that's why we can't go back in time before the economic crash or
                                         
                                         unfortunately president bush pressed the button on the bottom of the dagger to go back
                                         
                                         in time and then did things worse than he did before.
                                         
                                         He actually screwed up batter than before.
                                         
                                         He did a batter for the pancakes.
                                         
                                         Yes, yes.
                                         
    
                                         Well, as there's original plan was to have a pancake cook off.
                                         
                                         Oh, instead it turned into a horrible war.
                                         
                                         At least he or was punished by a game. Lawless grammar correction.
                                         
                                         So.
                                         
                                         And the thing about the, they point out,
                                         
                                         you just point out that because it is based
                                         
                                         on a platforming video game, they had to throw in
                                         
                                         shit, showing Jake chill and all jumping around
                                         
    
                                         down like arrows driven into the wall.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Because the fun part of a platforming video game
                                         
                                         is watching the guy do that.
                                         
                                         It's not OK. So they sack this city, is watching the guy do that.
                                         
                                         So they sack this city, they take the magic dagger back.
                                         
                                         Jake Jalalal doesn't know what it is but he's in possession of it.
                                         
                                         He is framed for the murder of the king by evil Ben Kingsley, ironic.
                                         
    
                                         And he has to go on the run with the princess who hates him because he attacked her city and
                                         
                                         stole her dagger along the way they run into
                                         
                                         Likeable bandit Alfred Milito who runs an ostrich racetrack
                                         
                                         She's so much more interesting when you say it than it is on screen
                                         
                                         This is gonna be a movie that sounds a lot more exciting and interesting than it actually is because there's a lot of adventures along the way a lot of fighting and running
                                         
                                         They have to run from place to place. They're attacked by a number of assassins. Flying snakes.
                                         
                                         Assassins with claws and flying guillotines and that shoot blades out of their
                                         
                                         hands. And also... And they look really awesome when they do it. Yeah and there's a
                                         
    
                                         kind of like saxophone riff every time they appear and eventually they find out that this dagger when
                                         
                                         it's filled with the sands of time you press a button on the bottom and you can go back
                                         
                                         in time like a minute.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         So I got next.
                                         
                                         That movie we watched.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Well, yeah, he can see like a minute into the future.
                                         
    
                                         He's like, oh, that next guy, you can go back a minute into the past.
                                         
                                         Although the actual way that this dagger works is very fuzzy because like, you go backwards
                                         
                                         and you've got knowledge of what just happened in the future, I guess, but it doesn't really
                                         
                                         seem to like match up.
                                         
                                         Like, you still, like, if you grab the dagger in the future, you still have it in your
                                         
                                         hand when you go back into the past.
                                         
                                         Yeah, it doesn't exactly, you don't come back at exactly the moment that you left from.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
    
                                         Anyway.
                                         
                                         Uh, so, uh, don't buy, don't buy one of these daggers.
                                         
                                         The same.
                                         
                                         The consumer.
                                         
                                         Dan's cut consumer reports review of this dagger is it's a borrow.
                                         
                                         Not a must buy.
                                         
                                         Wait till they work the bugs out.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
    
                                         Two, don't be an early adopter.
                                         
                                         Yeah. Get the bait of bait of the magic time dagger.
                                         
                                         Yeah. It turns out that underneath there's a lot of fighting, a lot of Hu Ha and people
                                         
                                         get killed. It turns out that there's a giant stone underneath the city that everyone
                                         
                                         lives in. That is if you stab the dagger in it, that's where the sands of time come from.
                                         
                                         And if you stab the dagger in it for some reason, it takes the whole world back in time
                                         
                                         to the beginning of time and everyone dies. Ben Kingsley wants to do this for
                                         
                                         Lord knows what reason. No, I had to clarify this while looking on Wikipedia. He wanted
                                         
    
                                         to take the, he wanted to take a trip back in time to a point at which he saved his brother's
                                         
                                         life. Yeah, he saved his brother's life and like he could become the king. I see when
                                         
                                         Ben Kingsley and the king were kids, he saved his brother's life and like he could become the king. Like, when Ben Kingsley and the king were kids,
                                         
                                         he saved his brother's life and his brother became king.
                                         
                                         I see. So he wants to undo that. So he'll be king. Yep.
                                         
                                         So instead, there's a lot of the big scheme.
                                         
                                         There's a lot of bright lights and explosions and for some reason,
                                         
                                         Michael G Foxes for some reason,
                                         
    
                                         for some reason it takes.
                                         
                                         Jack, Jake, John Hall back to the beginning of the movie
                                         
                                         and he's learned his lesson and he reveals the traitor ben kingsley
                                         
                                         but only after two different fight scenes in which ben kingsley
                                         
                                         handily holds his own against jayk jill and hall
                                         
                                         the movie buys you to ask you believe that jayk jill and hall who through the
                                         
                                         home we has been fighting
                                         
                                         everybody and defeating that
                                         
    
                                         now undefeated very well talks about how he's the great, very athletic,
                                         
                                         jumping from platform to platform, big muscles.
                                         
                                         Kind of dopey looking, though.
                                         
                                         Well, he's got a sad face.
                                         
                                         Yeah, and he's got Lanky like greasy hair,
                                         
                                         which everyone knows, and paid your ability to fight.
                                         
                                         All right.
                                         
                                         I just don't think it's hearts in it, you know?
                                         
    
                                         The, but, but you're poor.
                                         
                                         That dried up, crusty, thin skeleton, even Kingsley.
                                         
                                         If J. Jill Hall was fighting big things from sexy beast, we might be able to believe
                                         
                                         that there's something about sexy beast or Bing Kingsley because of against Ray Winston
                                         
                                         who's a big fat pudge. Like I believe that you wouldn't say that to Ray Winston.
                                         
                                         I would not you would beat the shit out of me. But it's, but here it's hard.
                                         
                                         But you'd probably say that to Ben me. Yeah. But it's, but here it's hard to-
                                         
                                         But you'd probably say that to Ben Kingsley though.
                                         
    
                                         You'd probably.
                                         
                                         I would, I wouldn't be afraid to tell Ben Kingsley to his face
                                         
                                         and he was a dried up skeleton of a man.
                                         
                                         Who could not take Jake's old home to fight?
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         You could even hold his own against Natasha Hensridge.
                                         
                                         Come on.
                                         
                                         Well, she was an alien.
                                         
    
                                         That's true. She was a species.
                                         
                                         I like-
                                         
                                         What kind we don't know.
                                         
                                         I like it when people use the titles of movies
                                         
                                         to represent the main characters like sure when Natasha Hedges when you were
                                         
                                         playing species I like species until she started killing people that
                                         
                                         character is actually called the sill yes species like that nerdy kid on that show
                                         
                                         family matters yeah I love that family matters kid to Leo White who of course play family matters on TV
                                         
    
                                         Family
                                         
                                         So in the end J. Chillin hollers lesson about something
                                         
                                         Going back in time and he falls in love again with Gemma Scatherman and
                                         
                                         They ride off into the dust and it is revealed that
                                         
                                         Some lives are linked through time. So one thing I need to say just off of the bat is that this movie is that you loved the
                                         
                                         movie.
                                         
                                         I bought it on Blue Raid before the film was over.
                                         
                                         I was on Amazon before the film was released in theaters.
                                         
    
                                         It started popping some corn. This movie found an all-new way to end a movie on
                                         
                                         the, it was all just a dream thing. But the end of the movie is okay.
                                         
                                         Nothing actually that's all happened. Is there anything different between that and back
                                         
                                         to the future? I guess there is because the family is in totally different situation at
                                         
                                         the end of it. Well, I mean like back to this guy's master sword fight. Yeah for a round dog day
                                         
                                         Back to future just not literally undo everything that has happened in the film. How day kind of does
                                         
                                         Yeah, but that movie it's a great movie that movie's hilarious. That's true. It is
                                         
                                         It is only pretty funny
                                         
    
                                         This movie is really gut busting
                                         
                                         Well, it is a I know this is a controversial statement to say but I don't think that Jake Jailin Hall takes us through the character change
                                         
                                         That Bill Murray does in Groundhog day. That is controversial, but we won't get into it right now
                                         
                                         I love after the climax sword battle between an old man and
                                         
                                         love uh... after the climactic sword battle between an old man and they
                                         
                                         uh...
                                         
                                         instead of a wish old man and instead of killing
                                         
                                         instead of killing the jim
                                         
    
                                         instead of killing ben kingsley who
                                         
                                         has revealed himself as a trader there's an entire army that's loyal to jay
                                         
                                         jillinhall surrounding him
                                         
                                         he then jumps up with a dagger
                                         
                                         only to be stabbed death by the the other
                                         
                                         Prinskin. Yeah, so yeah, by the by the by the Prince who took control when the King
                                         
                                         Dice. Yeah, also they realize the only way they could stop this guy, this old man is
                                         
                                         killing him. When really you could just stop him by not listening to him. Yeah, you
                                         
    
                                         could I don't know, step ten more feet away. He's tired of himself out. So they went by when he gets killed, he looks like he's having a heart attack anyway.
                                         
                                         Well, if you must use violence, just, you know, just pop them one in the stomach first,
                                         
                                         maybe before going into the stabbing. Just push them over. It'll break his hip. Oh,
                                         
                                         so, okay. So you would prefer a slow death. Yes, he was a bad guy. Come on.
                                         
                                         So on a scale from Pulse Pounding to...
                                         
                                         Okay, where's the other little thing that's following?
                                         
                                         From Pulse Pounding to Couldn't Catch My Breath, it was so exciting.
                                         
                                         Sure.
                                         
    
                                         Where does this movie stand?
                                         
                                         Well, I think, you were here while I was watching the movie and I got distracted by
                                         
                                         the fact that I own a yardstick.
                                         
                                         Dan literally got up, saw that he had a yardstick, and then I went, oh, yardstick, huh?
                                         
                                         And so that's how this movie is less exciting than a piece of wood that is meant to measure
                                         
                                         three feet.
                                         
                                         And most likely has been in this apartment for some time.
                                         
                                         Yeah, I don't, it's not a new yardstick, is it?
                                         
    
                                         Now the thing I was sad about, though, is, though is you know listeners you don't know this but Dan has
                                         
                                         this lovely couch okay but I could only appreciate the edge of it tonight because I was literally
                                         
                                         well done because you were literally getting up constantly out of boredom. Oh man this is a dull movie.
                                         
                                         You aren't sticking to it. Is it upside down yet? So we described a movie that has a lot of acrobatic stunts and
                                         
                                         ostrich race assassins with flying blades Alfred Molina Alfred Molina at his
                                         
                                         broadest a magic time traveling dagger and Ben Kingsley being an old man in a
                                         
                                         fight with Jake Jell and all and it is super dull. Yeah there's a lot of
                                         
                                         explanation. A lot of explanation.
                                         
    
                                         There's a lot of, you like,
                                         
                                         I can't explain.
                                         
                                         You like things being explained
                                         
                                         and barely audible dialogue over loud music
                                         
                                         and things falling down.
                                         
                                         If you like, seepia tone CGI
                                         
                                         and this is the phone for you.
                                         
                                         Everything looks so, like, the fact that movies
                                         
    
                                         of this type were made in the 30s
                                         
                                         that looked less fake and less artificial than this did.
                                         
                                         And also had beautiful cinematography. Yes, and look like this.
                                         
                                         And you like the sandstorm effects that look like somebody just smudge the negative a little bit.
                                         
                                         This is for you. I guess I guess I'm not an integer jump off.
                                         
                                         If anyone is considering renting Prince of Persia sands of time,
                                         
                                         why don't you just rent Thief of Baghdad? Just like go all the way and rent
                                         
                                         the Michael Corde of Thief of Baghdad and it's beautiful and there's a lot of fake Arabian
                                         
    
                                         you know architecture and stuff. What is it?
                                         
                                         Arabian nights is that the other one? The same period? What's the 101 erotic nights?
                                         
                                         Yeah. That's probably it. Yeah. 101 erotic nights? Yeah, it's probably yeah 101 erotic
                                         
                                         donations. I mean, yeah, there will be less than a
                                         
                                         erotic donation or vibrator drive is doing great. There will be less
                                         
                                         cemetery fighting in it, but I guarantee you'll be more satisfied. It is a...
                                         
                                         It's a tagline, I think.
                                         
                                         This is a movie full of sword fighting that is boring.
                                         
    
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         And it's the same thing you see in a lot of movies, which is just bad.
                                         
                                         The fight choreography you can't really see.
                                         
                                         It's not shot well.
                                         
                                         Everything's dimly lit.
                                         
                                         It's two guys in the middle of a bunch of people that seem to be running in a circle.
                                         
                                         Well, here's another thing.
                                         
                                         This is the director, Mike Noel, best known.
                                         
    
                                         New well.
                                         
                                         Probably for, he directed for weddings in a funeral.
                                         
                                         He directed Donnie Brasco.
                                         
                                         Action, both good movies, not known for the action.
                                         
                                         Not known for the right.
                                         
                                         It's like how with the Bond movies,
                                         
                                         they make the mistake of hiring Michael Apptid
                                         
                                         to direct them when he is a brilliant documentarian
                                         
    
                                         not the best action film.
                                         
                                         Well you don't understand is they're going to check in on James Bond every seven years.
                                         
                                         I wish they would actually that would be an amazing series.
                                         
                                         Yeah. I'd love to see a see movies here secret agent right at the beginning of his career.
                                         
                                         Seven years later when he is the top of the game.
                                         
                                         Seven years later when he's thinking about retiring.
                                         
                                         Seven years of that desk job,
                                         
                                         and then just as he gets older and older,
                                         
    
                                         and like, and like,
                                         
                                         borrows his children with his tales of being a spy.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Much the same way that I wanted the third man.
                                         
                                         That's why I gram green.
                                         
                                         He's sort of, yeah.
                                         
                                         The same way I wanted the third season of Mad Men 2
                                         
                                         jump forward to the 1970s,
                                         
    
                                         when Don Draper is a fat middle aged man
                                         
                                         With a big mustache that I'm supposed to sleep with
                                         
                                         Yeah, people still want to say yeah, it was the 70s 70s. That's true. Some key parties going on some
                                         
                                         So I'm led to believe
                                         
                                         I don't know drugs. Yeah, I wasn't there
                                         
                                         Suburban malaise yeah yeah go back to
                                         
                                         shit don't do that shut it down this movie wasn't very good huh not it was
                                         
                                         pretty bland and sorry Stuart in the middle you were you were talking you were
                                         
    
                                         scratching your belly at the same time which caused me to notice your shirt
                                         
                                         Which says flamingo fest 2002 special wedding edition. Yeah, I just want to point that out. Sorry. So you went to some sort of
                                         
                                         Cross dressing drag wedding event. No, I know somebody who did. Oh, okay
                                         
                                         That's a teaser audience that's a t-shirt teaser another store Wellington t-shirt teaser
                                         
                                         T-shirt tease from the house cat in
                                         
                                         House cat brought to my house cat industries
                                         
                                         So yeah, it's this is a it's a movie that is just like it just sits there
                                         
                                         Do and stuff while you lose interest
                                         
    
                                         It's not bad enough to really wonder away. It's not bad enough to really...
                                         
                                         Well, we wander away.
                                         
                                         It's not bad enough to get...
                                         
                                         I liked this more than last airbender.
                                         
                                         I'll give it that.
                                         
                                         Yeah, I think that movie immediately comes to mind
                                         
                                         in the dark of the night when I'm alone.
                                         
                                         But they're both...
                                         
    
                                         It's similar to the bottom.
                                         
                                         You remember the last airbender and you say no, not in this world.
                                         
                                         They're both like slow, boring fantasy fest
                                         
                                         that's been the whole time trying to tell me
                                         
                                         about why I should care about everything.
                                         
                                         Yeah, instead of making you care about it
                                         
                                         by being exciting and having good characters.
                                         
                                         Having stuff happen.
                                         
    
                                         Like the most charismatic character in the whole thing
                                         
                                         is probably Alfred Molina's pet ostrich.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Who just shows up for like a couple minutes.
                                         
                                         There were, I mean the ostriches were the most exciting thing, yeah.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         I was wondering if they're gonna peck somebody's face.
                                         
                                         Well, literally there's a scene where Jake Gyllenhaal, then ostrich starts and Jake Gyllenhaal
                                         
    
                                         is standing right in the middle of the track and you're like, uh-oh, is he gonna have
                                         
                                         to outrun these ostriches?
                                         
                                         Nope.
                                         
                                         He just gets pulled aside and he's safe.
                                         
                                         It's really like, okay, you almost had something
                                         
                                         But forget about it. I don't watch that. I don't watch hour and a half of that
                                         
                                         Big Joe just being chased by an officer. You wish this should probably would have been better
                                         
                                         You wish this movie was just called Prince of Persia a day at the ostrich races
                                         
    
                                         You wish it was called
                                         
                                         Gagged Chase by ostrich and it was on YouTube and it was an hour and a half
                                         
                                         Wouldn't make that happen though. I wouldn't let them think they let you upload that.
                                         
                                         I will say this movie, one of its triumphs is that it is less than two hours long.
                                         
                                         Mm-hmm.
                                         
                                         I could barely.
                                         
                                         Well, I mean, without credits, it's like an hour and 49 minutes.
                                         
                                         Okay.
                                         
    
                                         They're sure they're tempted.
                                         
                                         That's the thing.
                                         
                                         They could have easily have released this as like a two hour 20 minute, you know,
                                         
                                         bloated crap fest that just sits there and they know they're gonna get a certain amount of money and that's it, you know. This is a Brockheimer film too. I gotta let me pull some out here from the Dutch
                                         
                                         Brockheimer family.
                                         
                                         Brock, Jerry Brockheimer was never actually a good producer, but back in the day
                                         
                                         he knew how to make movies that moved along and were
                                         
                                         entertaining in this stupidity and now it's just gotten so bloated and dull all of these things I feel like
                                         
    
                                         He's probably too busy swimming in his money binge
                                         
                                         Pay attention to the movies he's putting down
                                         
                                         attention to the movies he's put now. You have him.
                                         
                                         He's the big cartoon duck.
                                         
                                         Swimming.
                                         
                                         No, pretty sure.
                                         
                                         Like a dolphin.
                                         
                                         Burring through like a gofer.
                                         
    
                                         Yeah, he's passing it up and letting it headman on his head.
                                         
                                         Yeah, he's probably got these big old boys characters to worry about.
                                         
                                         I don't care how much you like money.
                                         
                                         Coins hitting you in the head does not feel good.
                                         
                                         Well, also that, you know, like you have to assume that that might have been in circulation
                                         
                                         for a while.
                                         
                                         Oh, sure.
                                         
                                         There's so much disease in that money. But I mean, ducks aren't.
                                         
    
                                         It's so dirty animals.
                                         
                                         They're swimming with disease.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         I mean, they're, you know, like they're feeding from the muck at the bottom of the palm.
                                         
                                         Well, you don't know is that the beagle boys were hired to steal that money by the sanitation
                                         
                                         department.
                                         
                                         Is the public health problem?
                                         
                                         Please.
                                         
    
                                         Just get rid of it.
                                         
                                         We've been, we heard so many complaints of the stench and the germs
                                         
                                         Rats coming like that whole bottom layer of the money band is just rat bones
                                         
                                         Rat bones and just servants of Scrooge McDuck who have fallen in and been forgotten about
                                         
                                         We're pushed in imagine if I haven't seen gyro gear loose in months
                                         
                                         If I wanted to kill Scrooge McDuck
                                         
                                         What I would do is
                                         
                                         I would wait till he's swimming in the money bath in the money vault. Just dump more money on top of
                                         
    
                                         them and just close the door. No one can hear his screams from outside. Then Donald and Harry
                                         
                                         Jackson. Yeah. And then yeah, Donald inherits the money. You're doing it, Louie, you're set for life.
                                         
                                         You got to bump them off.
                                         
                                         I mean, for a time, I mean, they'll probably spend all on
                                         
                                         crackers and stickers and shit.
                                         
                                         Well, the other thing is that you got to invest that money
                                         
                                         because the money itself is depreciating and value.
                                         
                                         Sure, it's as we speak.
                                         
    
                                         Well, nothing.
                                         
                                         It's gold, though.
                                         
                                         Not the gold.
                                         
                                         I mean, it does have like a gold and rubies.
                                         
                                         And this is a kind of, he overpaid for those.
                                         
                                         Those are vintage gold coins.
                                         
                                         He paid way more than market value for those
                                         
                                         He's what he screwed me talk is just watching Glenn Beck seeing those commercials for gold companies
                                         
    
                                         Sure, he's calling in to hedge against the apocalypse wasting his money. I mean, it's probably for the best that gyro gear loose would get buried in there
                                         
                                         Because he's always fucking making inventions that we're gonna kill him. Yeah, that were terrible. Yeah
                                         
                                         This has been a real expose on Duckburg. No, just on Sprood Creek Duck.
                                         
                                         Duckburg is a lovely town.
                                         
                                         I mean, New York's the greatest city in the world.
                                         
                                         It's still got criminals and crazy people in it.
                                         
                                         Yeah, at least Duckburg.
                                         
                                         I mean, like, criminals there are always,
                                         
    
                                         they're wearing costume.
                                         
                                         They're where they wear their-
                                         
                                         They're dressed as criminals.
                                         
                                         They wear their operas and numbers on them.
                                         
                                         So you can tell. I'd be more unhappy about duck brooks ramp and anti-Semitism laws
                                         
                                         Jewish ducks not let's live in duckberg
                                         
                                         Certainly ducks of color not a lot to live there terrible
                                         
                                         Makes me sick. So
                                         
    
                                         Prince of
                                         
                                         What else if there's sninds of smersha?
                                         
                                         We're not even words that sound like words. Those are just made up sounds
                                         
                                         That's that's become such a fall back for us is just changing the letters in a word slightly
                                         
                                         Yeah, glad other people enjoy that by which I mean you too
                                         
                                         We have me because I don't think the listeners do
                                         
                                         Yeah, we just have a club. We can just have a club that did that. We can stop doing the
                                         
                                         podcast and inflicting those and other people. We can just hang around changing the letters
                                         
    
                                         and words. We probably take less time.
                                         
                                         We wouldn't have to watch the movie. Here's my paper bandwidth.
                                         
                                         Here my top-complet-well, you only do that. That's the-
                                         
                                         That's the pace for Popeyes. That's why they can use-
                                         
                                         And I would do that clever joke's the you know, it's a place for Popeyes. That's why they can do that. Yeah, I
                                         
                                         That pay for stuff
                                         
                                         You're a lot like you're kind of like the Cyclops Scrooge McDuck
                                         
                                         You'd be like the Wolverine Scrooge McDuck I don't understand why the screw-up label is meaningless.
                                         
    
                                         Although it means Flop has to be on our time and he flops out Spain and wants to draw
                                         
                                         a picture of the Scrooge McDuck X-Men.
                                         
                                         Please go ahead and do so.
                                         
                                         Be aware that you probably will be sued by Disney and Marvel and Disney,
                                         
                                         which owns Marvel. Yeah. Yeah. Actually, the fact that Disney owns Marvel now opens the door to
                                         
                                         a lot of great crossovers like that. Sure. Wow. The Duckman. Let's just pitch that. Extox. Extox.
                                         
                                         Extox. That horse. And then this X could be something for news been all that a horse you know that horse is in the Mickey Mouse cartoons
                                         
                                         Yeah, I used to know is that his name?
                                         
    
                                         Yeah horse the horse and there's Claire Bell the cow Claire Bell the cloud goofy the thing the dog creature
                                         
                                         Okay, Prince of Persia like Pete anyone. That's not an animal. He's a Pete. We got animals. He always a Pete
                                         
                                         That's not an animal. He's a peat. We got animals. He always a peat.
                                         
                                         Here's the problems with Prince of Persia. And I'll just list them. You're lame on the line.
                                         
                                         Uninspired plot. Okay.
                                         
                                         Characters don't come to life.
                                         
                                         To the color is to monotone. It's all this kind of sandy gold color.
                                         
                                         The same color that has destroyed the modern Western to a certain extent,
                                         
    
                                         that they think everything has to look sepia and browns and golds.
                                         
                                         Confusingly shot, there's too much going on on the screen a lot of the time, and it doesn't
                                         
                                         look pretty.
                                         
                                         This is a bunch of dust clouds.
                                         
                                         You're dealing with kind of western stereotypes of ancient Persia, which is one of the most
                                         
                                         beautiful fictional time periods in history, is this kind of ancient Persia, which is one of the most beautiful fictional time periods in history, is this kind of
                                         
                                         ancient Persia near East Orient of like, you know, Harams and open air plazas and long flowing
                                         
                                         outfits and, you know, gold everywhere and cut out wood ornaments. Like, you see a lot of paintings
                                         
    
                                         from the, like, turn of the 20th century that are fantasy visuals of this type of thing and they're gorgeous and this movie
                                         
                                         Just can't make those elements look good
                                         
                                         Expensive
                                         
                                         I guess it
                                         
                                         But it looks expensive. I mean the movie looks expensive as cheap at the same time.
                                         
                                         It's a ten-pole movie. This was supposed to be a big summer block, but
                                         
                                         Yeah, not enough ten-poles. That's the other thing. There's only one scene where they're in a tent.
                                         
                                         Yeah. Come on. They should be. They should be.
                                         
    
                                         Most of that.
                                         
                                         They tell the legend of the sand people or whatever.
                                         
                                         Yeah. If only there was some sand. If only a Tuscan Raider showed up.
                                         
                                         Riding a Banthae. Yeah.
                                         
                                         Banthas. So how many times did I wish they would come over a dune and see Obi-Wan
                                         
                                         saving Luke and then go and starting Star Wars or like Boba Fett crawling out of the Star Black pit. Yeah
                                         
                                         Oh, man. Oh, that was a long nap. Have I got a headache?
                                         
                                         Yeah, I was a
                                         
    
                                         Now I want to talk about the fat doll that says yeah, so when you put the button yeah
                                         
                                         Boba Fett on a date I don't want to talk about the fat doll that says, yeah, so when you put the button. Yeah, I was.
                                         
                                         Boba fat on a date.
                                         
                                         So, what do we do now guys? I think it's, I mean, this is uncharted territory.
                                         
                                         I think we've exhausted ourselves,
                                         
                                         not the movie, but ourselves.
                                         
                                         And we should probably just skip ahead
                                         
                                         to final judgements on this,
                                         
    
                                         whether this was a good bad movie,
                                         
                                         a bad, bad, bad movie, or bad... BORN, BORN, BORN,
                                         
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                                         BORN,
                                         
    
                                         BORN,
                                         
                                         BORN, BORN, BORN, BORN, BORN, BORN, BORN, BORN, BORN, BORN, BOR too many scenes of just telling legends and other bullshit that I didn't care about.
                                         
                                         But I did like any scene where Ben Kingsley got to do physical stuff.
                                         
                                         Like when he climbed faster than Jake Gyllenhaal.
                                         
                                         He fought him with two swords at one time as a radical.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         There should be more movies where old men outfight and out climb and out athletic young
                                         
                                         men. old men outfight and outclimb and out athletic young man. There were there were three things I liked about this movie.
                                         
    
                                         Alfred Molina ostriches and occasionally the lead lady was a little cleavagee.
                                         
                                         And that's about all I can say very occasionally.
                                         
                                         Not frequently.
                                         
                                         That's the Alfred Molina is very much the Johnny Depp of this movie like he's supposed
                                         
                                         to be the-
                                         
                                         The hilarious. Yeah, just be the hilarious the whole yeah
                                         
                                         Just like like the the lovable rogue funny jacks barrel character
                                         
                                         But there's not a lot of him. He's really only in a couple scenes and he disappears for a long
                                         
    
                                         You expect when they first meet him that he's gonna join up on their rag tag band for justice
                                         
                                         But then he disappears for a long time and he looks like Terry Jones from life of brown
                                         
                                         Yeah, he does as Dan put out he does seem And he looks like Terry Jones from Life of Brown. Yeah, he does, as Dan
                                         
                                         put out, he does seem like he's playing Terry Jones, playing like playing Brian's mother.
                                         
                                         Brian. And he runs in the same way. He runs like a man playing a fat middle aged woman.
                                         
                                         Is that how, I mean, maybe that's the way you have to run when you're wearing one of those
                                         
                                         robes. I guess so. I don't know
                                         
                                         We should we should do a test to a myth busters over here. Yeah, Dan get your middle your Arabian robe. Okay, let's see
                                         
    
                                         We'll film that video and slap it up on the site. It's like they it was like okay, so I just summarized
                                         
                                         What's like I summarized the I summarized what my rating was? I think we both agreed that it was bad.
                                         
                                         It was a bad boring movie.
                                         
                                         It was not, we've seen worse movies, but it was almost more boring because it was not bad
                                         
                                         enough.
                                         
                                         Like it was just dull.
                                         
                                         I was going to say, I think this was the first tier of boringness.
                                         
                                         No.
                                         
    
                                         Oh, I think I've seen more boring than this.
                                         
                                         Alfred, well, I definitely have.
                                         
                                         I've seen slow bullet for crying out loud.
                                         
                                         But Alfred Molina did look like he was running with a watermelon between his knees.
                                         
                                         Oh my God.
                                         
                                         Okay, Alfred, let's see if you can play this role always carrying a watermelon between your knees.
                                         
                                         I like to think that that he's in the prestige choice.
                                         
                                         Yeah, he was trying to, that's how he got into character.
                                         
    
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         The backstory that he didn't, there's a lot of actors like to create backstory that they don't
                                         
                                         necessarily tell anyone. Oh really? And his backstory for this character was that he said, he'd stolen a watermelon he didn't does a lot of actors like to create backstory that they don't necessarily tell anyone and his backstory for this character was that he said stolen a watermelon and didn't want anyone to know about it.
                                         
                                         Well, when he was a little boy, he stole a watermelon and that saved him from the evil gypsies. So the only so that was his like lucky charm. Yeah, was this old now
                                         
                                         rotting
                                         
                                         People think he smells it's just the watermelon. Yeah, you can't tell them he wants to
                                         
                                         It's his crust a bear who is his crust to bear
                                         
                                         It's delicious crust on my bear bear crust cut the crust off my bear please
                                         
    
                                         I like the crust
                                         
                                         Total nonsense this point okay, so I've got some lighters here from
                                         
                                         Listeners. Yeah, we love getting letters everybody should write us some, right Daniel? Right Stewart? Right, absolutely. Right Elliot, you bet you Elliot.
                                         
                                         You can write us at the FlophousePodcast at gmail.com.
                                         
                                         The longest.
                                         
                                         And conveniently, long.
                                         
                                         Anyway.
                                         
                                         Why don't we just get like, Flophouse at gmail?
                                         
    
                                         I think it was, I think it was taken.
                                         
                                         I think that was the,
                                         
                                         I, this was not just my idiocy, I think there was a reason.
                                         
                                         No, I, you're not an idiot, come on.
                                         
                                         The FlophousePodcast of gmail. Not right as well. You know. I think there was a reason. No, I see not an idiot. Come on. The flop has podcasts of GMAT.
                                         
                                         Not bright as pop.
                                         
                                         You know, you're pretty funny.
                                         
                                         Oh, thanks guys.
                                         
    
                                         This is from Justin.
                                         
                                         You had set and stuff up and stuff.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Oh, God.
                                         
                                         It's just another way of calling me the cyclops.
                                         
                                         You're the Leonardo.
                                         
                                         Come on, you're very important.
                                         
                                         So this is you allow the attention to be directed
                                         
    
                                         on the charismatic members of the
                                         
                                         group i'm the luke's cowl occurs we're the mark walberg of the side of the
                                         
                                         low-butt
                                         
                                         you're the power droid
                                         
                                         you're the you're the guy in entourage who's not the famous actor and not
                                         
                                         turtle or johnny drama
                                         
                                         wait are you saying he's a droid? Yeah, you're E. Wait, he's the droid and Java's palace that gets turned upside down. Yeah,
                                         
                                         that's that's Dan. All right. Yeah. Your yak face. Well, weird that Java has a
                                         
    
                                         torture chamber for droids. It's weird that the droid can feel pain in his
                                         
                                         feet. Who programs a robot to feel pain? Well, also, he said like the other
                                         
                                         droid, the torture or droid says that he disintegrated and that's not
                                         
                                         disintegrating no putting feet on his feet feet he I don't
                                         
                                         understand why you'd make put pain sent to his feet which is
                                         
                                         going to be on the ground the most most likely to touch
                                         
                                         painful objects and it's like all saying a little pebbles
                                         
                                         yeah it's good to know why would you build a robot that needs to wear shoes?
                                         
    
                                         It's like that the garbage can robot that just says gunk and walks around. What does that do?
                                         
                                         What's the use? What's that's gunk? Because people get tired of sneaking up on them.
                                         
                                         A lot of here you go. Oh, it's just you gunk. Can you just say gunk?
                                         
                                         So anyway, let's
                                         
                                         Oh, it's just you gunk. Can you just say gunk?
                                         
                                         So anyway, let's, uh,
                                         
                                         droid humor. I love it.
                                         
                                         I could do a tight five minutes on Star Wars droids.
                                         
    
                                         What's the deal with four-lom?
                                         
                                         OK.
                                         
                                         I introduced the idea of letters five minutes ago.
                                         
                                         So this one's from, uh,
                                         
                                         this one's from Justin last name with hell, and this says,
                                         
                                         big family. I'm writing because
                                         
                                         I've yet to hear any feedback on this year's Oscar nomination. Oh yeah, that's right.
                                         
                                         In previous years you've offered entertaining insight and general condemnation toward the
                                         
    
                                         process. So I wondered what's different about this year's awards that would set it apart
                                         
                                         from years previous was that the nominations were all justly deserting films and there's
                                         
                                         a distinct paradigm shift within the film industry towards a selfless introspectrospective ceremony that isn't the self-aggrandizing and shallow
                                         
                                         spectacle that we've all become accustomed to, probably not.
                                         
                                         There's something about this year that sets out there's a part and that is the host
                                         
                                         Anne Hathaway.
                                         
                                         However, there was more disappointing side of favoritism in the realm of comedy criticism.
                                         
                                         I would like to know because I certainly cannot think of any.
                                         
    
                                         Elliot was unafraid to tear apart the Oscars even when his own employer was hosting
                                         
                                         get this year they get a pass. Yeah what's over that? I understand the bonds of
                                         
                                         childhood friendship and loyalty run deep. Oh yeah. But the integrity of this
                                         
                                         podcast has always been based on movie criticism that digresses into titles and
                                         
                                         words that say that a little and I would hate to lose that. Yeah what's up with
                                         
                                         that Elliot? If anything.
                                         
                                         If anything.
                                         
                                         If you're not your best buddy.
                                         
    
                                         This feels like a, I know you made a BFF,
                                         
                                         truce or whatever.
                                         
                                         Yeah, well we're blood brothers.
                                         
                                         OK.
                                         
                                         We should blood brother sisters.
                                         
                                         OK.
                                         
                                         I don't know.
                                         
                                         I feel I felt I didn't have any like real feelings
                                         
    
                                         about the nominations this year.
                                         
                                         Yeah, I'm genuinely like not like I wouldn't say that I'm like,
                                         
                                         oh, this is great, but I'm also there's nothing that sets me this year.
                                         
                                         I don't like that Amy Adams was nominated for Best Burning Actress.
                                         
                                         I thought she did a bad job, but I didn't think she did a bad job like you did, but I didn't
                                         
                                         think she was like the greatest, but yeah.
                                         
                                         But in terms of like most of the nominees are really good.
                                         
                                         I was really glad that like John Hawks was nominated.
                                         
    
                                         I was really glad that Wintersbone got recognized for a bunch of stuff. Like the almost all,
                                         
                                         I can't really think of any best picture nominees that I'm upset was nominated, except I feel
                                         
                                         the kids are all right. It was a major disappointment and I didn't like that movie that much.
                                         
                                         But yeah, that was like that was like it is basically that's a movie that's a disappointment
                                         
                                         just by being overhyped. That's the thing. It touches you know, it's like a solid
                                         
                                         Dramady, but it's not you know much like that two and a half star movie
                                         
                                         Yeah, but like I didn't like it, but it obviously touched accord with a lot of older people like people older than us
                                         
                                         Well, I think people in their
                                         
    
                                         Well, that's thing like people in their like 50s and 60s or 40s
                                         
                                         I'm not saying things
                                         
                                         There was something about that movie that really rang true for people in 50s and 60s or 40s. I'm not in something that I'm saying that Kings be.
                                         
                                         There was something about that movie that really rang true for people in the last
                                         
                                         week.
                                         
                                         And it didn't for me because he's dead.
                                         
                                         He's not just old.
                                         
                                         He's over 100 years old, I think.
                                         
    
                                         I just assumed people heard that it was a movie where Julian, Moore and Ant, and at
                                         
                                         Benning were lesbian, like part of a lesbian family and were like, that sounds hilarious and great.
                                         
                                         Well, that's the thing is, I would say it would be a better movie if it was really about
                                         
                                         that.
                                         
                                         There are lesbian family, but it's a movie about how lesbians occasionally fall in love
                                         
                                         and have sex with men, which I feel like is a fundamental misunderstanding of lesbian relationships
                                         
                                         for the most part.
                                         
                                         Well, I don't think that they were saying that they fell in love.
                                         
    
                                         It was like a weird thing.
                                         
                                         It was a fling, but like the idea that like, I am devoted to my wife, I am a lesbian until
                                         
                                         Mark Ruffalo comes along.
                                         
                                         Hello.
                                         
                                         Well, obviously, obviously, yes, it would be better if it was it wasn't Mark Ruffalo.
                                         
                                         If it was Dan. Well, Ruffaloid It was Dan
                                         
                                         Well, I also know you're saying Dan wants to have sites with Julian Moore's
                                         
                                         No, I I think that I think that a lesbian feels kind of it's tight, right?
                                         
    
                                         Yes, yeah, that's true very much so I think a lesbian filmmaker though should be allowed to make a movie about lesbians
                                         
                                         Where like part of the point is like the mutability of sexuality and
                                         
                                         like it doesn't really matter like I guess what I feel like that wasn't the
                                         
                                         message that the movie brought out I feel if the movie had made a had made a
                                         
                                         stronger point of that I would have been more okay with it but like a manual
                                         
                                         in space a manual on space is all about the mutability well made a great point
                                         
                                         which is that people in the future don't know what sex is and yet it powers their spaces
                                         
                                         Somehow a manual on space by the way on Netflix interesting watch which one I mean that was a series. I don't know anyway
                                         
    
                                         Mo the movies are all compilations of episodes
                                         
                                         So who but for the most part for the most part this was a very good year for like solid Hollywood movies. Yeah. Stuff like the fighter and the King's speech like the true grit.
                                         
                                         True grit.
                                         
                                         Like these are I don't think this was the greatest year in movie history but those are all
                                         
                                         solid movies and they got recognized nominations.
                                         
                                         Toy Story 3 was really good.
                                         
                                         Black Swan I thought was great.
                                         
                                         Yeah, yeah.
                                         
    
                                         And you have some directors turning out some some of their best work.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         And the end people say like yeah, and you have some directors turning out some some of their best work. Yeah. And the end people say like, yeah, I think so.
                                         
                                         And people say like, well, you know, Christopher Nolan was nominated for
                                         
                                         inception, but like there were 10 best picture nominees and there's only five
                                         
                                         best directors slots.
                                         
                                         Like half of those directors are going to get snubbed, you know, and you
                                         
                                         needed to do you needed to have a lot of people named, there's at least two nominees for Best Director,
                                         
    
                                         named David, right?
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         And I mean, he made a movie about Dream Crime.
                                         
                                         He should be, I'm sure he's content
                                         
                                         with the millions and millions of dollars he made.
                                         
                                         Yeah, I think that's right.
                                         
                                         Although he would have made more
                                         
                                         who was called Dream Crime.
                                         
    
                                         Is that already copyrighted?
                                         
                                         You've registered that with the guild.
                                         
                                         I think when the Oscar ceremony takes place and it's shitty, then I think we'll have more
                                         
                                         to say about it.
                                         
                                         Oh, will we?
                                         
                                         So that episode is always cursed.
                                         
                                         That always has some sort of down problem.
                                         
                                         That's true to me.
                                         
    
                                         So this is letter number two.
                                         
                                         This is from John Legendant with Elevant.
                                         
                                         It says it's titled Shoeless Elliott. So this is letter number two from John last name with hell and it says
                                         
                                         It's titled shoeless Elliott and it says what kind of candy-ass pink baby hamster feet does Elliott have that he got blisters from running Five minutes indoors without five minutes. I had to run through an entire airport as quint would say you got city feet mr.
                                         
                                         K.
                                         
                                         Also click away at word sound like each other.com.
                                         
                                         It's not a fan site, but it's something.
                                         
                                         This fan registered word sound like each other.com.
                                         
    
                                         So now redirects to the flop house.
                                         
                                         Which is awesome.
                                         
                                         Yeah, it is awesome.
                                         
                                         But yeah, this is the shoe thing.
                                         
                                         Now this is something I didn't bring up.
                                         
                                         I didn't realize this caught fire
                                         
                                         I did I did not bring this up in the last episode
                                         
                                         Because unlike certain co-hosts. I don't like to say hurtful things to my friends
                                         
    
                                         But I did wow was that directed towards steward or to me because we both say mean things about you
                                         
                                         Yeah, both of you
                                         
                                         But he was looking at me the whole time
                                         
                                         Right, but I'm feeling really self conscious already like he made me wait out in the cold before we taped Yeah, both of you. But he was looking at me the whole time, right? But I did.
                                         
                                         I'm feeling really self-conscious already.
                                         
                                         Like, he made me wait out in the cold before we taped.
                                         
                                         He didn't want me to sit on the whole part of his couch just the edge.
                                         
                                         That's why you only had to sit on the edge.
                                         
    
                                         You didn't want me to sit on the full couch.
                                         
                                         I don't want his butt on my couch.
                                         
                                         You don't know where it's been.
                                         
                                         It's been a year.
                                         
                                         But now I did have the same thought in
                                         
                                         soothing mud, a saddle when you're telling the story of your
                                         
                                         wrong. Here's, here's what you should do. If you want to judge me,
                                         
                                         go to LaGuardia Airport and run through the whole fucking thing
                                         
    
                                         with no shoes on. And I guess like a like a goof. They love to see people pass.
                                         
                                         I does a test.
                                         
                                         I ran from the security area to the farthest gate that that airline had.
                                         
                                         And he does not have the longest legs.
                                         
                                         I have no offense, my man.
                                         
                                         It's okay.
                                         
                                         We're cool, right?
                                         
                                         We're cool.
                                         
    
                                         Okay, we're cool, yeah.
                                         
                                         Okay, because he doesn't have super long legs so that easily took out like what two hours
                                         
                                         I was I was running for probably about 15 20 minutes
                                         
                                         With no shoes on in a in a airport because the thing is probably sweating a lot, right? Yeah, okay Wait, I was ready. I had to take my shirt off. I was so sweaty now time
                                         
                                         My pants got caught on a nail so those guys are on a band when you're running
                                         
                                         You don't necessarily have a good I. I was running for 70 gallons.
                                         
                                         Did you look at your watch before,
                                         
                                         and did you look at your watch after it's good?
                                         
    
                                         Right, because I was late for a plane.
                                         
                                         I had time to say to stopwatch.
                                         
                                         I handed, I finally heard somebody,
                                         
                                         and I said, run ahead.
                                         
                                         They run for 15 to 20 minutes.
                                         
                                         That's maybe, maybe it was like 10 minutes.
                                         
                                         I think it all goes back to the short legs thing, guys.
                                         
                                         Okay. I think I think it all goes back to the short legs thing guys. Okay. I
                                         
    
                                         Think normal size legs. It takes it wouldn't it only take us like normal size. No offense. I said no offense. I'm not
                                         
                                         I'm legit no offense. She'll have like five five five six. No offense
                                         
                                         Fixes everything now. I forgot that's right. Yeah, it's like no takes these bags
                                         
                                         And I forgot the law of the law but yeah, oh and I'm sorry
                                         
                                         I'm just saying yeah, and someone gets you really mad and then they go hey calm down. Hey cool it or
                                         
                                         French
                                         
                                         No, it's the same thing right so I think that what we're saying I like French and somebody gets mad at you is we've entered you in the New York marathon. Okay, let's do this
                                         
                                         The New York marathon better be run shoeless and through an airport and then I'll be ready for it. Okay, so
                                         
    
                                         Let me just say if that was a family circus cartoon
                                         
                                         Then the little dotted line of how far I ran. Yeah, I would have had to be continued through multiple Sunday pages
                                         
                                         And not me would be walking away with your shoes? Not me would be like, oh man this is too much, I gotta go and I don't know what have dropped dead and be up there with grandpa and heaven.
                                         
                                         So, we were talking today about at work about how we would cast the Family Circus movie.
                                         
                                         All I remember from it was Carianne Moss as the mom.
                                         
                                         And then a bunch of children with that horrible,
                                         
                                         a small head disease.
                                         
                                         Yeah, it was Robert DuVolves grandpa's ghost.
                                         
    
                                         Okay.
                                         
                                         And I think Vern Troyer is not me.
                                         
                                         I'm so thinking about what do I want?
                                         
                                         I think we might have had Matt Damon as the dead. Ryan Gosling could work.
                                         
                                         Oh, like Vincent Gallo was the dead.
                                         
                                         That's crazy. It's crazy, man.
                                         
                                         But anyway, that's the family's biggest movie.
                                         
                                         So this letter says...
                                         
    
                                         Fans of time.
                                         
                                         This letter says, hi.
                                         
                                         Hey.
                                         
                                         What am I?
                                         
                                         What am I a fellow AV club freelancers turned me on to the flop house about a year ago?
                                         
                                         Yes, and I became an instant addict two things
                                         
                                         One I'm often tempted just to skip the episodes featuring guest flopcasters
                                         
                                         Sorry, they don't just they just don't compare to the real McCoy
                                         
    
                                         The real McCoy I'm the only one who's always here. Yeah, it's always real McCoy
                                         
                                         But uh, why doesn't listen to the episodes right? Yeah, so it doesn't know and number two
                                         
                                         I haven't heard the uh oh in a while. I know I dropped it for you number two
                                         
                                         I respectfully disagree with my colleague Steve Heisler about dance cartoon. I thought it was tops
                                         
                                         Yeah, I agree so this is the this is the redemption from the eight onion AV club that I've been waiting for which cartoon? The idea one of their freelancers. They when Dan's cartoon 90 and meeting was in the
                                         
                                         New York television club
                                         
                                         A.V. television club
                                         
                                         It was a much of a festival when he was a
                                         
    
                                         television club
                                         
                                         When it was the New York television festival, I think the onion gave it a scene. Yeah, and that's at least an A-
                                         
                                         cartoon. They I mean the thing is it a good scene. Yeah, and that's at least an A-Cartoon. They, uh, I mean, the thing is, you know, they send out...
                                         
                                         They send out one person to see these things, you know,
                                         
                                         that doesn't hit with that one person, you know, like, that's the score for, for ever.
                                         
                                         Uh, and Steve Heisler did not like it, and it was shattering.
                                         
                                         Because I do, I love the Onion Avie Club in general.
                                         
                                         I think they're a great publication with some...
                                         
    
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         ...trenching... ...uh... ...good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good in AV club in general. I think they're a great publication with some some trenchant good good political analysis usually because you were sitting in
                                         
                                         the back of a theater during the screening like laughing really loudly and
                                         
                                         liking cigarette butts and things. And they're great. It's great. You're loving this.
                                         
                                         But no, I mean this is this is the redemption that I needed from the
                                         
                                         young and like some some freelancer and a Non-full-time staff are telling me that they tear down the guy who liked your work. No, I appreciate it. I genuinely appreciate so my asshole thinks it's good
                                         
                                         I'm very excited. This was gonna be your red dead redemption. Now this is my red dead redemption and
                                         
                                         And I want to I want to fucking award for that at the new or TV festival in your face Steve Hyzen. Yeah, you won for one
                                         
    
                                         cartoon. I won the animation so yeah
                                         
                                         So you you earned it dude. Why do you keep looking?
                                         
                                         It's your flamingo fest 2002
                                         
                                         You have all your award Dan is on burn is on bridge burning
                                         
                                         mode right now
                                         
                                         It's the right if anyone from the AV club like I'm glad this podcast. Please do I'm glad we
                                         
                                         We have these kids are all right homosexuality things. You know how I know how Dan feels about others
                                         
                                         I'm glad that I'm glad that we have a pocket of support over the AV club
                                         
    
                                         I didn't realize that there were...
                                         
                                         Yeah, that's...
                                         
                                         They're not overwhelming.
                                         
                                         ...passed between freelancers over there.
                                         
                                         Yeah, like a doobie in the SNL offices in the 70s.
                                         
                                         Like old, like old, uh, prank phone call tapes. Yeah. We need more media elites to sing our praises.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Has anyone ever submitted a cartoon to the New Yorker
                                         
    
                                         where someone's setting fire to bow and Jeff Bridges?
                                         
                                         And he's saying something about burning a couple of bridges.
                                         
                                         Don't.
                                         
                                         How many of them truck in celebrity characters?
                                         
                                         Nobody steal that idea.
                                         
                                         This is my ticket for you. Whoa, whoa, whoa, push the top of the dagger and you can get your idea back. Oh, yeah, yeah, that's right
                                         
                                         What did you call us do with the funny button the funny button?
                                         
                                         You just tickle the funny button and you go back in time. It's awesome
                                         
    
                                         So now's the point where we quickly
                                         
                                         Do a few recommendations of movies that we actually enjoyed that were not Prince of Persia
                                         
                                         So do you have you have something that you enjoyed? that we actually enjoyed that were not Prince of Persia. Is there such a thing?
                                         
                                         Do you have something that you enjoyed?
                                         
                                         Last night I watched Catfish, which was a documentary, and I don't actually want to
                                         
                                         talk too much about it, but I felt that it was an interesting and I guess kind of telling portrait of how people kind of interact with each other
                                         
                                         through Facebook and what Facebook and social networking sites have kind of done to human interaction
                                         
                                         both by making it public and also by kind of alienating people from each other. So it's worth watching.
                                         
    
                                         So it's worth watching.
                                         
                                         So all right, well on that note, I'll talk about I saw another documentary of this last year that got a lot of
                                         
                                         good Press and that was
                                         
                                         Slower and more drawn out. I was Joan Rivers piece of work which I enjoyed
                                         
                                         Speaking of the Oscars my main association with Joan Rivers has been her being a horrible person on the red carpet.
                                         
                                         And that was all I thought of her, and I was perfectly fine thinking of her as being terrible.
                                         
                                         And then I saw this documentary that humanized her. And it was very interesting. And it was an interesting portrait of a comedian who is still at work as someone who
                                         
                                         knows a lot of stand-up, but doesn't really do stand-up himself. It was interesting on that level too. And I liked a lot.
                                         
    
                                         Netflix Washington.
                                         
                                         Speaking of John Revers, I'd like to thank the Wii Network for ruining a broadcast of the cutting edge, which I was watching with my wife with
                                         
                                         TV-sweeney.
                                         
                                         Every, with TV-sweeney.
                                         
                                         Every, this must have been for Valentine's Day.
                                         
                                         Every, no, it was before Valentine's Day. Every 10 seconds or so, a tiny animated
                                         
                                         Joan Rivers would pop up in the bottom of the screen to tell you her show was going to be on
                                         
                                         on Tuesday, which was three or four days after this aired.
                                         
    
                                         And a tiny Melissa Rivers would then pull her off the screen.
                                         
                                         This happened constantly.
                                         
                                         So it was impossible not to be reminded
                                         
                                         of Joan Rivers' existence.
                                         
                                         Even while watching the cutting edge movie,
                                         
                                         she has nothing to do with.
                                         
                                         And I will recommend not a documentary,
                                         
                                         in fact the exact opposite.
                                         
    
                                         But cutting edge.
                                         
                                         Cutting edge with you're doing it.
                                         
                                         Perhaps I'm going to recommend one of the most historically inaccurate movies I can
                                         
                                         recommend, but a very fun one called The Return of Frank James, which is the sequel to
                                         
                                         the movie Jesse James.
                                         
                                         Jesse James came out in the late 30s.
                                         
                                         Return of Frank James is from 1940, but it's in color, so don't worry.
                                         
                                         It looks, it's Fritz Lang's first color movie, and I think it's first Western as a director, and Henry Fonda returns as Frank
                                         
    
                                         James to get revenge on the men who killed his brother Jesse James in the first movie. Don't
                                         
                                         have to watch the first movie. I like this one more than the first movie. Just skip Jesse James
                                         
                                         and go straight to the return of Frank James, which is this great fast-moving western that is totally inaccurate and
                                         
                                         also has a courtroom scene where every character gets up and talks about how
                                         
                                         great the South was in the Civil War and it is ridiculously incorrect.
                                         
                                         Everything this they're like and but the characters are so goofy that you
                                         
                                         that it's okay even for someone like me who's heart still burns with the union cause
                                         
                                         So he's saying that we're racists
                                         
    
                                         Yeah, basically who's the racist one no no, I'm the non-racist Dan's the racist
                                         
                                         In the high-flow
                                         
                                         There types he has hopes for him. You're also the leader
                                         
                                         You're the horrible leader, but Henry Fonda in the return of Frank James, it's really good.
                                         
                                         So I don't need to see the first one. Don't go see Jesse James.
                                         
                                         Like the Matrix movies like that.
                                         
                                         So wait, do I?
                                         
                                         So do I need to see like the Rambo movies?
                                         
    
                                         Do I need to see Jesse James meets a Brooklyn girl before this?
                                         
                                         That's your thinking of Bella goesey meets a Brooklyn girl.
                                         
                                         Oh, wait, Jesse James versus Frankenstein's daughter.
                                         
                                         Jesse James meets Frankenstein's daughter.
                                         
                                         You don't need to watch it though.
                                         
                                         Or Billy the Kid versus Dracula.
                                         
                                         Don't need to watch that either.
                                         
                                         In fact, never watch those because they're really boring.
                                         
    
                                         But a robot monster though.
                                         
                                         Also boring.
                                         
                                         It's a good one.
                                         
                                         Don't watch that. It's got a watch, Bella Go. Don't watch that. Don't watch, Felicia.
                                         
                                         See me, it's me.
                                         
                                         Don't watch Rep to Silas.
                                         
                                         Don't watch the same man.
                                         
                                         Rep to Rack of Boo Boo.
                                         
    
                                         Actually, watch Rep think of Boo Boo because it's crazy.
                                         
                                         And it has that,
                                         
                                         that Rack think of Boo Boo is the low-budget movie whose title
                                         
                                         was created by a typo.
                                         
                                         And has a long scene where someone is following a sexy woman while she's walking and you just
                                         
                                         keep seeing shots of her ass walking away from you and you start it goes from that's a hot
                                         
                                         woman. I like watching this too. I feel really weird watching this like I feel like a creep.
                                         
                                         All right. So Elliott's recommendation was the incredibly strange creatures. No,
                                         
    
                                         living. That's not even the right rated as Tecler movie to watch.
                                         
                                         My recommendation is the return of Frank James.
                                         
                                         Okay, so guys, we had a good time despite watching
                                         
                                         Prince of Persia's Sans of Time.
                                         
                                         You know what?
                                         
                                         Because friendship can bring us through any, et cetera.
                                         
                                         It's the more.
                                         
                                         Even when friends are mean to each other,
                                         
    
                                         say hurtful things.
                                         
                                         We can apologize and make up,
                                         
                                         because there's a friendship
                                         
                                         and a love there.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         And we're going to sing a song of friendship after we get off.
                                         
                                         But right now, I'll sing the Flop House ending song
                                         
                                         if you want.
                                         
    
                                         OK.
                                         
                                         Had some laughs, had some time, film for all,
                                         
                                         and then a rhyme. R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R-R- I'm flying around! Flop house, flop house, flop house!
                                         
                                         Tuna!
                                         
                                         Thanks everyone, I've been Dan McCoy.
                                         
                                         I've been steward Wellington.
                                         
                                         I unfortunately am still at Lake Caelan.
                                         
                                         Come out.
                                         
    
                                         I'm sliding a settle in.
                                         
                                         Okay.
                                         
                                         Chill out.
                                         
                                         Chill out.
                                         
                                         Have a look.
                                         
                                         So, rum.
                                         
                                         Rum DMC.
                                         
                                         It's good stuff.
                                         
    
                                         Keep it going.
                                         
                                         Did I imagine you should set a hilarity to awesome?
                                         
                                         Sure.
                                         
                                         Put that in your bag.
                                         
                                         Put that in your baguette.
                                         
