The Flop House - The Flop House: Episode #96 - Trespass

Episode Date: January 28, 2012

0:00 - 0:33 - Introduction and theme.0:34 - 6:41 - We introduce our special guest, fellow Daily Show writer Zhubin Parang, and extend thanks to all who came to the live show.6:42 - 37:15 - We discuss Nic Cage's latest Flop House joint, Trespass, which approached Delgo levels of failure.37:16 - 39:50 - Final judgments39:51 - 52:55  - Flop House Movie Mailbag52:56 - 57:00 - The sad bastards recommend.57:01 - 59:27- Frackcast, theme, and outtakes.

We can keep this up as long as you can, Nicholas Cage. On this episode, we'm Dan McCoy. I'm Elliot Kaelin and I'm Juben Paren. That's right Stuart is visiting his family. His family in Fort Wayne for a late Christmas, as I understand it. Well, since as we established the last episode, he worships Crom. Cromy and Christmas is actually in late January.

Oh, that's Cromy and reform Christmas. Yeah, Orthodox Crom Christmas is December 25th. But as you've been, is one of our co-workers, as a daily show. A writer at the Daily Show with John Stewart. What is that exactly? It is a topical comedy show that makes light of the foibles

of modern day politicians and the media that covers them. It's a great show. I would sleep in already. I encourage you guys to try. It's funnier than it sounds. It's funnier than I made it sound. I wouldn't encourage you guys to check it out. It's a really good, it's a really good, you know,

I mean, we have fun, you know. I think you mostly go enjoy how much fun we have. Okay, that sounds fair. I guess. How many comes from? Has you been, uh, has you been started on the same day that I started? Mm-hmm. Yes. I'm a bit tired before me. Well, we won't get into that.

But, uh, oh, you know what, is that, is that, is that, oh really? Dan's always held it against you and in fact, this inviting you onto the podcast was in the lab. We're pranked. We're airing of grievances, but I convinced Dan not to fill a bucket with pigs blood and dump it on your head. No, I want it. I want it. Let's get it out. Let's clear the air publicly. No, I don't think we need that. I would like to be the first step of the podcast evolution towards more of a grievance of airs. Airy grievances.

Grievance of airs. I'm a grievance of airs. Shakespeare's grievance of airs. Airy grievances. Grievance of airs, the end of the series. Shakespeare's grievance of airs. Now let's let the healing begin by smothering a shoe of an in-pick's blood. I was actually very glad that we started together, that we had, because I definitely had someone who was also like stealing the fire, yeah.

And I was glad because it was two more people who were junior to me at the show. You're a cherry, you're a cherry. You already had three people junior to you. Yeah, but five is even better. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, it's always better Just keep rising I went I became an old writing hand and now I could haze you guys Speaking of which go do some push-ups in your own vomit. Oh, you have to because I've been at my job longer than you have Three hours I call them up in the middle of the night and wake them up and make them do vomit push.

I mean, my stomach is empty by now, it's the thing. You got it. Make sure to eat a big dinner. I'm just throwing a blood there. You're gonna take us out the dinner? No. Oh, I'll get some worth as for the hazing. I was in a fraternity college that technically was not

allowed to haze and did not physically haze, but psychologically hazed very well. And you know, with a lot of deception, a lot of sudden surprises that turn out like suddenly surprises. I don't know what it was like. It was the surprises they warned you about. Yay. I'm going to jump out of these bushes, I chew.

Yeah, but I'm just imagining you. In three, two, and I'm jumping out now. I'm just imagining that. I'm not suddenly surprised. I just imagine the hazing like being like, you open your door and you find a big like bouquet of balloons. Yeah, like what has come from this is sudden. No, it was a lot.

It wasn't any like it was a kind of thing that looking back on it, which I assume is not the case of physical hazing, but looking back on it, you're like, that was pretty clever and smart putting me through that emotional turmoil. And I don't feel any problem doing again the next class. But you know, physical hazing, I wouldn't think that, you know, quite so much. Yeah.

You feel it. Yeah, I feel it. I think that leaves scars. Nothing that leaves scars. Like just like maybe like a rubber hose or some oranges. Yeah, rubber pantyhose or more pantyhose. Eating oranges gross. That was most of what the hazing was, it was eating like a lot of oranges. Yeah, rubber pantyhose or more pantyhose. Eating oranges gross. That was most of what the hazing was, it was eating a lot of oranges.

Just making sure you didn't get scurvy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Orchard was a fraternity and not a pirate ship. I might have just joined an orange club. I might have joined an orange, an orange, an orange. I might have just visited Florida. I thought that was four years of fraternity. So this is what I thought.

This is what's called a naval? It's a naval orange. Oh, this is a blood orange. Oh, that no, that means it was oppression and exploitation. Like that movie blood orange with Leonardo DiCaprio. These oranges were like in Africa. Come conflict oranges now. They don't want to. They don't want to. Yeah, that's way better. Yeah, yeah. You from I that's actually fine. I never thought about because the reason they call them blood diamonds is so people stop buying them. Let's look, yeah, this is really going down

with the blood diamonds. Let's just call them conflict diamonds. Yeah, conflict diamonds, you know, like they just argued over these diamonds. Speaking of arguing over diamonds, well, actually, we should get to that. Oh, yeah. Well, that was a good segue to the movie,

but first we should thank everyone who came out to our 12 round screening on Friday, January, not even. Jubin wasn't there. I didn't. I wasn't. I didn't care enough about the podcast. I did not care. But we had a sold out crowd.

A lot of great fans. It was a really fun night. I hope everyone who came out of good time. We had people from all over the country and otherwise two guys from out of the country, from out of the country, Toronto, Toronto, two guys took a bus down from Boston just for the screening and then took the bus back that night. There's a woman from Cincinnati. Not John from Cincinnati. Lady from Cincinnati. John went from Cincinnati is not a woman and it's actually a TV show. You guys are pretty popular along mid-sized cities. Oh, yeah. Boston, Toronto, Toronto is pretty big since Nadi, but not so much in the major markets.

But it reminded us, or run to me at least, that like, people do listen to this stupid thing that we do, which was a great feeling. And we have a lot of great fans. We're just good people and who are very friendly and are the kind of fans that we want, the kind of listeners we want. There was a trivia question about the popcorn trick that was surprisingly detailed. The gentleman rattle off basically our whole stick about the popcorn trick. They real people, I'm amazed at how well people know this podcast, to the extent of knowing like anecdotes that I've told on it or like you said, like knowing the popcorn trick problems, basically verbatim or it was just very impressive.

Yeah, so thank you to the fans. Thank you. Everyone who came, we hope to do another one someday, not for a long time now. Thank you to the fans. No, it's you, but you. Even they're not your fans. Oh, I just want it.

Well, thank you. After this episode, yes, but I'm going to go to that. Free thank you to the fans. So speaking of conflict over diamonds, what movie did we watch today, Dan? We watched a movie called Trespass. So speaking of conflict over diamonds. Yeah. What movie did we watch today, Dan? We watched a movie called Trespass.

Now, before this movie came up as a possibility, I had never heard of it. Despite the fact that it was directed by Joel Schumacher and stars Nicholas Cage and Nicole Kidman, two of the most famous nicks in Hollywood. Did it come out in theaters, Dan? It did come out in theaters, briefly, but it holds the record for shortest window of time between theatrical release and DVD or video of any time. It did be the record held by from Justin DeKelli, which itself was just a cash in on American Idol. 18 days from theater to DVD.

It was in the theater for less than 10 days, and according to Wikipedia, it had a budget of around $35 million and it grossed around $25,000 in theaters and 10 days. Now that's roughly $25,000 a day for a movie. And that's like, so at any given time, and so during its release, around 250 people saw it a day. So I did not know 18 days from theater to DVD. I feel like I feel like the first days and theaters you're going to start running off the DVDs, right? Like they had to know like right away. We got to get this. They knew this is going to be a huge hit. So they just made the DVDs ahead. I just can't stop. I knew this is just going to be people are

going to be climbing up the walls, trying to get into the studio to take these DVDs. It really punches up to like how false that like release window is. Like they don't need I knew this was just gonna be, people are gonna be climbing up the walls, trying to get into the studio, take these DVDs and on. It really punches up too, like how false that release window is, like they don't need, they don't need a lot of time to gear up to get those DVDs out there. Well, it's like the old thing,

when the state DVDs were not available, but they had been made, and MTV had done a DVD set for the TV show, the state, and just left them in a warehouse for, like, over a year, at least. And you would see online, people from the state of be like, yeah, please write a letter to MTV to tell them to release this thing that is made already, that will cost them no more money to do anything with.

A hostage, if you will, which gives us back to speaking of hostages, this movie, trespass. You've been speaking of trespass without talking about trespass several times. Already? Now, I at first thought this was a Spanish movie called Trace Pots, about three passages. I feel like again we're getting off track, but I went to a Spanish restaurant last week. I'm very much enjoyed. I don't know what that has to do with anything that we're talking about.

Save that for the podcast, our cooking podcast. A lot of people think it's about pot. It's actually about cooking things in pots. Yeah, the hash cast is the pot cast. And don't get to mix up with our pot's cast, which is our Annie Potts pot cast. You're just talking about Annie Potts. A lot about hot to trot.

Hot to trot, ghost busters, ghost busters two, that show that she did on lifetime where she was friends with a black lady. I feel like you guys need to just consolidate these pot castles. Who's Harry's? Who's Harry Crumb? Everyone was in who's Harry Crumb.

It was a verbal, who's who of Who's Harry Crumb? Everyone was in who's Harry Crumb. It was a verbal who's who of who's Harry Crumb? All that, these multiple podcasts would be such a big deal if you guys didn't have them bleed over into every podcast. They're really, there's a lot of overlap, a lot of lead in. There's a lot of lead in there. They're confusing names. There's the Cast Cast, our fishing podcast, the Cast Cast, which is our Broken Bones podcast. The Cast Cast, which is the cash cab podcast.

Yeah, that's where we drive people around in our podcast and ask them quiz questions, which is not to be confused the crash cast where you drive that same car but crash it into various objects. Yeah, walls, things like that. Yeah, I call it crash. So anyway, and there's also our crash cast, which is our discussion of the movie crash every week, which is my for the most popular one.

You guys that one gets a lot of views. Oh, yeah. So the point I wanted to make was that it seems like more people may hear about the movie from this podcast than ever actually watched it. And we're doing a service to Joel Schumacher. Yes. Would normally make me feel bad, but it's Joel Schumacher and Nicholas Cage and Nicole Kidman. Like they're big names in this movie.

And it's the return, the triumphant return of Cam Gigandet to the podcast, our favorite name. Our favorite actor. I think that we're not sure. It could be Gisande, but we're gonna keep saying Cam Gigandet because it's more funny. It's more fun to say.

It sounds like a kid robot. And the daughter in this movie, also a previous flop house star from the daughter. I sold the take. It was the daughter. I don't know if it was the daughter was it? Oh, not the daughter in this movie also a previous flop house star No, I don't think it's the daughter's whole to take it was the it was the daughter was it was the friend of the daughter the friend of the daughter Kendra Fender of the daughter who we briefly see in a low-cut top and then we don't see her much Anyway, he's been the rest of the movie wishing that we saw her again, but what's the okay? So we know the movie was a big bomb. We know it stars Nick's floral and Old old fan friend of the podcast Nicholas Cage. What's the movie

about you ask? What's the movie about Elliot? I'm glad you asked. Nicholas Cage is a diamond broker with a big fancy modernist house. He's right in the Colk Kidman, but it's a cold marriage. There's no sex between them. And we know this because he breaks a dinner date to go do business and we see her wistfully looking at underpants that she had wanted to wear. And then she tries to kiss him and he like moves his face away. He's like a cold fish. I don't know why that happens. And they have a daughter who argues with the parents and sneaks out of the house to go to a party.

And now Nicholas Cage's performance starts out being kind of bland and by the end of the movie becomes ridiculous, but we'll get to that. The, so Nicholas Cage and Nicole Kidman are at home, suddenly a sheriff knocks on the door and says, we need you to let us into the house. There's been trouble in the neighborhood. Turns out it's not the sheriff. It's a bunch of robbers disguised as security people and they have been following Nicholas Cage around for days, watching him do things.

And they're convinced he has millions of dollars and diamonds all over the house. You're aware from the start that these guys are robbers because the security cam in this incredibly elaborate and complex security system this house has, only shows their chests where you see the badge. It's a chest-high security cam. It's a chest-high security cam,

which seems like a major oversight in the movie, until you learn learn and there's like, and there's one of many twists in the movie that the security cam system itself was installed by the crooks by the crooks led by Camgo Janet led by Camgo Janet. Gams, command it. Gams, command it. Who he, but it's there's so many twists and turns in this movie. It's hard to remember all of them, but there is a chest high, cleavage cam security camera. There's, they go in, Nicholas Cage won't let them open up his safe, he says he doesn't have any diamonds, and then it turns out, well,

let's just go through the twists in no particular order, shall we? Yes. So Cam Goodjandy. Well, I mean, the thing is, it's just go through the twists in no particular order, shall we? Yes. So, Cam Goodjande. Well, I mean, the thing is, it's a pretty basic, uh, home invasion story. Home invasion story. And tell all of a sudden they throw like eight twists at you. Like, one after the other. The first 35 minutes of the movie are very straightforward.

Then it gets a little like slow. And then it's just twist after twist, just like constant twistiness. So Camgo Janet put in the security cameras. It appears he also slept with Nicole Kidman because she's lonely while he was there. Yeah, which is also suggested by a lot of longing looks that to give to each other in flashbacks that are superimposed on each other. DosewMocker uses everything in his baguetrics, in his directorial toolbox to show us there's chemistry between these two.

Which he needs because real life there is no chemistry between these two. There's no chemistry between anybody. I don't think in this entire movie. Like, nobody really seems to connect anybody else. I think they're all shot on different days. I think we have to take a closer. Together with computers, single shots.

Like Lord of the Rings. Yeah. They decided they, to experiment, they wanted to shoot a movie the same way you record voices for a cartoon. Yeah. Just different people separately. Different rooms. Okay, the daughter comes back and there's a lot of running around and a lot of yelling

and people going, shut the fuck up, get the fuck down. You know, like just firing guns near. Yeah. They could, like, just cage get shot like two or three times. That's one thing also is that the very first second something goes wrong. All four of these crooks just fall apart. Like they all are yelling at each other.

Yeah, they've all got numerous entanglements themselves and cannot keep it together. It's three guys and a girl and a pizza place. And the guy's hilarious. And the leader of the robbers and the girl are have relationship. The girl is a drug addict and immediately leaves the room when the robbery starts to go smoke crack. I guess. Yeah. And try and Nicole Kidman's clothes. And try

to call Kidman's clothes and watch Nicole Kidman's baby movies from when their daughter was growing up, which just seems to be excuse to see her in a flammable couple times. Which again, Dan is fine with that. But it definitely seems a cheap break down at the beginning of the movie and spends the entire rest of the movie broken down. Like, tears. Like wandering around in a haze. Yeah, like not making any sense, like begging you. A real lady Mcbeth.

Yeah. A real lady in the tramp Mcbeth. Yeah, I didn't say that Shakespearean parallels until just now, but now this makes a movie. A lady Mcbeth on the tramp. Either that works, right? Lady Mcbeth in the Trumps. Sure. Why don't you make that hit YouTube video? I think I will. And she tells the Trump to kill the Italian chefs.

So they can run the Italian restaurant and have all this spaghetti they want. The web of relationships is that the girlfriend, the female robber is the girlfriend of the older brother, Robert. Oh, that they are two. The robber who slept with Nicole Kidman and installed the security camera is brothers with the lead robber. Yes, the younger brother who does a lot of yelling about it's called trust. We need to establish trust here between us and you people that were robbing.

Nicholas Cage tells them there's also like a hulking guy who they all seem scared of. Yeah, that even the robbers are afraid of. It turns out Nicholas Cage says to them, we don't have any money. It's all debt. It's we're more, we thought we owned this house, but it owns us, which briefly makes you think maybe the house is haunted, but it's not. They just have a very, they're underwater on this house. It's very topical.

And that he says, we don't have any diamonds. We don't have any money. They say like, oh, no, what are we gonna do with this? There's gotta be something. And the lead robber says, we need this money to buy a kidney for our mom who's dying. So we need to take your daughter's kidney. And John Nicholscage is like, no, no, take my kidney, take my kidney. And they're about to slash his back up and then the lead robber's like, we don't need any kidneys.

We're here for money. And then this, so why did we bother with that? What's the there's the beginning of the movie they're there to get supposed with the diamonds and and Nicholas Cage suggests a plan because he said the diamonds are our laser micro etched to be coded to whoever owns them and he suggests to them that he be their middleman. So they essentially rob the diamonds from him and they give them back to him. And then he gives them the money. Yeah. This is a very, this takes up like a good like 10 minutes.

At least. Well, they established a beginning that Nicholas. Diamonds to money to kidney and then back to money. Nicholas Cage, they establish, he's like a smooth talking salesman. Like he's a hustler. He gets by on his being able to argue people and convince them.

And you think that's gonna be his way out of this predicament, but it never really works that well. Yeah. And usually he ends up shot or stabbed or just with his hand crushed or just beat up. Uh, I like the idea that like this happens to him every day. Like his is a smooth talking ways that he tries and then we get him shot or just just lives home bloody every day. This house is not worth it. Even if we have an infinity pool, it's not worth

it. Let's just, I'll just go through the twists quickly and then we talk, got to talk about what order people get killed in. So he says we don't have any diamonds, then it turned, they asked for a kidney, turns out they don't want a kidney. Then it turns out that the relationship between Camga, Janet, there's a lot of mind games that people are playing with each other. Then it turns out Camga, Janet, imagined the whole relationship. He's on anti-psychotic medicine. And he is on anti-psychotic medicine.

And then the older brother throws the medicine away. Yeah, I don't know. I'm not sure what reason. Those are tick tacks. Like he was not taking. He was what the I don't know. I'm not sure what reason. Well, those were tick-tacks. Like, he was not taking, he was pretending to take it. Well, that's what the older brother says, but I'm not, oh, you're saying he was just pretending to take it this time?

He was pretending to take it this time. Oh, I missed that. But he was just tick-taxing. The older brother realized that when he tries them himself. Oh, I see. Maybe they were just the kind of meds that give you minty brush. Minty brush.

Yeah, yeah. Well, there was another, oh, oh, so then it turns out he needs the money because the lead brother is a drug dealer for the mob. And his girlfriend, the girl, is a stripper for the same mobster. And so he was doing so well as a drug dealer that they gave him this huge shipment of Coke,

$180,000 worth. And while he was having sex in the front seat of his car with his girlfriend, robbers come up and steal the drugs from him. So he needs the money to pay back for the drugs he lost. And that's why they're so scared of the hulking guy because the hulking guy is from like the drug works for the mobster. But then it turns out that the mobster eventually revealed the mobster gets injected with a

chemical that puts him to sleep for a long time. But then when he finally wakes up, he reveals that he gets, he's attacking camgajandit. The older brother shoots him in the back to save camgajandit. And then as he's dying, it's like an opera where someone has a lot of time after their shot to talk. He explains that, no, you don't understand your brother sets you up. The mob stole those drugs back from you that it gave to you so that you'd be

under their thumb and do anything they said. And it was because your brother told us where you were going to be with the drugs. So we stole them back and your brother betrayed you. And then he dies. And then there's a lot of running around and chasing. There's a lot of yelling. Nicholas Cage gets beat up a lot. Yeah. The lead brother is going to kill Nicole Kidman, but then can be Janet kills the brother because he's a lot. Yeah, the lead brother is gonna kill Nicole Kidman, but then Kanga Jandit kills the brother because he's loving. To save Nicole Kidman, Nicholas Cage shoot, and then Kanga Jandit finds out there really is

a lot of money in the basement. There's hundreds of thousands of dollars. That's the final twist. That's the final twist. And then there's somehow gasoline got knocked over. And Nicholas Cage lights it on fire, and then takes a nail gun and shoots the nails into can get jammed its feet so he can't move and he gets engulfed in flame and The family escapes and yeah Nicole Cameron comes in and gets a Nicholas Cage who's been shot in the inside of the lake

Which by the way is where your femoral artery is and when you bleed out immediately like within seconds But you got shot in the inside later. And then like later, you get shot in the gut and he manages to do all this to camp and and and the kill equipment takes him out. And at the end of the movie, they're all on the lawn. The house song fire. You have, and then cut to quits and you have no idea whether he's. They're lying on the ground with three of them.

One on top of each other like a family lies down. And then you hear sirens in the background. Fade to black. So all the robbers are dead. A security guard, a real security guard who shows up near the end of the movie gets shot dead by Kim Kajandit. And there's also and the girl robber. Yeah. She's so the daughter says, I know where there is money. I was at this party. This is something we see earlier. She's at a party and the douchebag who is running the party to impress her, shows her a safe with a gun in it and like tons and tons of cash in bricks. And he's like, there's $100,000 in here.

You know, in case of, I don't know, the economy collapses or 9-11 or something. Like I don't remember what he says, it's really stupid. And she leaves the party. So she says, I can take you to this house. It's 20 minutes away, we'll get lots of money. And the girl, Robert goes with her in a car, but not before changing back into a thong. Yeah. Not before they change their clothes into party clothes.

Look, they don't want to be, uh, you can speak to us while they're robbing money from this party. Yeah. I guess so. Yeah. And then the, the Robert girls, like, I'm going to shoot all your friends. I'm going to shoot everybody because you can't do anything about it because you're you can't do anything. And the girl drives it speeds up the car and aims for a traffic pole and then quickly unlatches the robber's seatbelt car crashes. Next thing we see the airbags have not gone off. The girl is fine the girl

robber is I don't know dead I don't know what but she's just sitting there the car is in pretty good shape considering it just crashed and the and the daughter runs away. But this is a and I said at the time this is my favorite thing in the whole movie because early in the movie when the the daughter sneaks out and she like Kendra's driving her. Kendra almost crashes into that same traffic pole. And so it feels like the movie feels like it needs to set up the fact that people can crash into poles. Or else we're not going to believe the way that this woman gets killed at the end of the movie. Yeah.

I mean, this is a movie that's so intricately plotted. Just everything's there. plotted. Yeah. Everything is there. Everything pays off. Everything pays off. That's that's that's for everything. The great one of the great things about this movie is characters suddenly go from being like cowardly and snippling on the floor to suddenly doing an enormous act of bravery. Like a one point to call Kidman, who is like most of the movie is on the floor crying if some sort begging the robber sleeve or family loan. It gets up, like, puts a guy in an armlock and grabs a syringe and points it very close to his neck

and just starts shouting commands to all the robbers. As if she was, I honestly expected some sort of secret to be that she was trained in some sort of martial arts or in like a copper stuff. It was so fluid and quick. And then it's the like in movies where you see like ordinary people are really good at punching and can take a lot of punishment.

Like this is that kind of, yeah. I mean, it's supposed to be an average family, but like they're pretty good at fighting and Nicholas Cage takes a shitload of punishment. Like they crush his hand, they shoot him a couple times. We got the other thing. I mean, like there's that, but there's the flip side of that, which is when they like seem utterly incompetent. Like there's a point where, other thing, I mean, like, there's that, but there's the flip side of that, which is when they, like, seem utterly incompetent.

Like, there's a point. The family, I mean, everybody seems incompetent. Yeah, but there's a point at which, like, a knife gets stabbed into a table right next to Nicholas Cage. And Nicholas Cage basically does that, like, comedy thing where, like, you turn your, like, fingers into someone walking along the table. He's like, the two robbers are arguing and he's going to, he's slowly reaching over to pick up that knife, but it's like he's, it's like he's in a slow pick up a knife contest.

Like how slow could you pick up a knife? And it's also one of those things where, you know, I feel like anyone with any, any experience in life sort of knows that if you want to do something surreptitiously, you do it quickly, rather than stretching it out as long as you possibly can. Like you can just grab the knife and stab something. Like he knows that robbers have vision like frogs

or T-rexes. They see motion, they can't see things that are standing still. That's science. It's like an actual movie theater when somebody wants to like, open, like, unwrap something and just does it very slowly, with just like a hundred times worse than just opening it right away.

I'm gonna extend this crinkling as long as I can. Yeah, yeah. But the robbers are really shitty at being robbers too. Like they break into the house and they're like, we know everything about you, we've been watching you, we know everything. And that was the course of the movie it's revealed that they really don't know what they're doing. They have no plan, all of them are crazy, they don't like each other. And it like you wouldn't only need to tweak this a little bit for it to be a knock about farce

about incompetent robbers. You just need one person to dress as a different gender in order to say that you're just completely farce. Well, we're talking about during the movie, it was like, okay, well, the robbers think that they have all these diamonds. Oh, Nicholas Kaye doesn't have any diamonds. Then they think he has a bunch of money. It's like, oh, it turns out he doesn't have a money. Then there's a necklace that they're

going to get. Like, oh, they get the necklace and they, he's like, oh, it's fake. I traded it in. I, for the house, like, and they smashed it, like fake necklace. And it turns into a movie about, like, hostages that the devil, the hostages takers. Like, oh, come on, you're just wasting our time now, Nicholas Kay. The hostage takers are like falling apart by the end of the movie. They don't really seem like much of a threat. Yeah, I feel like it's like most of these hostage movies are invasion or high sp movies have like one wild car,

but everyone of the robbers in this movie is a wild car somewhere. It feels like the speedener was like, why don't I make them all wild cars? Yeah, I was like, what anyone's gonna do it at any one point? Even the guy who's like the big tough guy who's a professional, who's there to keep them in line,

is kind of a crazy person who flies off the handle. Yeah, crazy person. There's the drug addict stripper lady. There's the fuck up drug dealer. And then there's the person who's on anticycotic medication. I mean, it's like the X-Men. Sounds like a superhero team. Yeah.

That's one, although I will say the number of twists and the way they're all revealed, every twist is revealed in a very dramatic monologue or some sort of shocked utterance that is then followed by the next person hearing it saying, what did you just say? It's all very, not only are there so many twists but they're all revealed as if they're the only twists

in the movie that is why they're becomes very entertaining to me after. The druggy girlfriend's like, no, no, no, they can't be, no, no, come on. Yeah, after a certain point, you'd think that they just would be like, oh, yeah, OK. I buy that. I get it.

Everything is going wrong. The, I guess in a way, that's more realistic. I mean, this is probably more like the way. There's nothing realistic about this. No, this is not in any way what real life is like. It's probably more realistic that that's what like a group of criminals is like. I'm saying like a group of,

well yeah, they. They are most criminals are not a crack elite. It's not like die hard with their elite squad of mercenaries. Yeah. That have everything timed out to the second. And it's only the one X factor of a New York City cop. Oh, my God, this sounds like a good movie. Well, it was made already City cop. Oh, shoes. Oh my God, this sounds like a good movie.

It was made already years ago. Oh, no. Ellen, you should, I will keep forward to this movie you're making. No, I'm not making it. It's been made all the time. It was hard. I would like to give you $2 million to make this movie.

The movie cost way more than $2 million. I think I can only raise $2 million. I'm amazed you can raise that much. I'll take this money and I'll make this movie. I'll give you a DVD of this movie that I'll make for just $2 million. I can't. I'll get Bruce Willis to be in it, but he'll look younger.

See, Shubin is the kind of can-do guy I'm looking for, L.I.P. It's always known with you. Yeah, that's your right. I can't do guy. I can't make a movie that was already made 20 years ago. One thing I like about this movie is the fact that it is the fact that with all these twists,

the very first five minutes of this break in, it seems like this is like a Segal Team 6 operation. They do the trick where they're like, what's the code to the alarm? And it gives them the wrong code. And they know the right code. And they know the right code. So you're thinking, oh, these guys like tracked them down

like a long time, but then within like two minutes after that, everything, these guys like tracked them down like a long time, but then like within like two minutes after that, everything like they, the girls are smoking crack in the room and putting on other dress. The guys are like are shouting each other, like calm the fuck down. Which they're showing a little, a little falling apart, which usually happens like 90 minutes into a two hour high school.

It's as if, it's as if like reservoir dogs start with, is if they all come back from that robbery that went horribly wrong and they're all mad at each other. It's as if that that all that happened the minute they walked into the place they were running. Like as if reservoir dogs was about them fucking up this robbery instantly. Like the only way they could screw it up more is if like they couldn't get the door open or if they hold up their guns and the cartridges are just falling right. The clips are just falling right out of the bottom. Their pants are falling down. Their masks just disappear

because they're made out of some kind of flash paper. But likewise, I mean, Nicholas and me. Their moms are in the bank. Like shoot. No, this is also, and as result, this is the shoutiest movie I think we've ever seen in this podcast. Yeah, oh really?

And we and we showed and we watched 12 rounds which is a loud movie but almost every line in this movie is shot the fuck up like get the fuck down or no no no that basically. Well, that's what I was gonna say is that Nicholas Cage goes from like the boring like disengaged Nicholas Cage that we've seen a lot of recently. Yeah, too like crazy fucking Nicholas Cage goes from the boring disengaged Nicholas Cage that we've seen a lot of recently. Yeah. Two crazy fucking Nicholas Cage very quickly. And it does a lot of talking like this. No, it's like his voice, it's like his voice, it goes from like zero to geometry to George

Lucas. Like those are the voices. So he's like, leave my family alone to like, I think, you know, I, do you ever know the etymology of the word diamond? It's like, why, why bother with that? But also like immediately upon getting kidnapped, like he is at climax levels of like yelling and despair and craziness.

I mean, it is like a weird like, it is like a home invasion, Joel Schumacher, Tennessee Williams thing. Right? That's another thing too, by the way, which is, like, what you're saying about the etymology of diamonds, like several times the movie, Nicholas Cage gives almost like a mini lecture

on some subject. At one point, even starts like discussing what the robbers, the leverage he has and what leverage is and how it's useful in the negotiations. And I don't know if that's it was promotion for the show leverage. One of those there's something that started out as kind of a neat thing in

movies where characters would give little mini speeches on like weird subjects like and then it got totally overused and like Aaron Sorkin does it in everything he writes but every it seems like every character has their little speech with their like, you know, when I was a boy, my mom always used to tell me, and here's what's interesting about that. And here's a fact I heard somewhere. And it's like, maybe one of those for movies, okay.

But like all the characters seem like they just read a really interesting book and they can't wait to hear. Like, or they heard something on Jeopardy, that they didn't know. I think it's how everybody what it is. I mean, to go back to Resvardogs, I feel like Quentin Tarantino is good at doing that.

And people see that and they're like, oh, I can do that. And the thing is that became like one of the ticks that people picked up on about Tarantino, but he doesn't do it as much as you think he does. It's just when he does it, they're memorable, like the whole Royale with Cheese thing and Pulp Fiction, like there's not that many other things like that

in the movie where there's just kind of like a non-sequitor facts talk, you know, or something. Yeah, the like a virgin thing at the beginning of Reservoir Dogs is like, that's really the only thing there, yeah. And in glorious bastards, it's when Quistoff vaults goes through the, basically the plot of each season of Charles and Charge. Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

It's strange. Yeah. But it was a movie where they they kill Hitler. It's a Fantasia. It's a Fantasia on World War Two themes. And then the interesting thing is that the Zipowel family moves out. A new family moves in, but Charles stays in charge. It was very smart though, because he deliberately made a mistake in the third season that got the Jews hiding under the floorboards, and be like, that's not right. And that's how they... I mean, that's what's going on. That's hard to say.

So brilliant about that scene, is you're like, oh, he's, he's talking about Charles and Charles, and Charles, that, uh, old Jews love that. And you want them to be quiet, But they just cannot resist from correcting him and the irony in the scene is that Christoff vaults is the one in charge the whole time. Yeah Let a good movie Just well done. I Mean it is I mean not the crazy version that we Glorious Charles and charge I I don't mean glorious beos I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like,

I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like,

I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like,

I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I and then like, oh, I guess, I guess we're not. And what I loved about Tarantino's explanation for that was he was like, the characters don't know how history is supposed to go. They don't know that Hitler doesn't die here. So why can't they kill Hitler? And it's such a perfect explanation.

Like, yeah, you're right. It's not like the characters are going to leave a back door open because they know Hitler doesn't die till 1945. That's true. Yeah, that's a very clever way of responding to it. But anyway, trespass. I found myself way more entertained by this movie than I thought I was going to be even though it was really like because it was stupid. It was really stupid and loud and at any given moment someone was about to get hurt or yell at somebody else or reveal some new motivation. That we never knew about.

And and Camgajan it gets into a fight with the big guy at the end and is just being slammed against the floor like there's a bunch of Hits in this really look like they really hurt. He receives like seven blows that would run there anybody automatically unconscious Yeah, but yeah, Psycho strength. Yes, Psycho strength is true. That's true But that's a precious breath and psychoest mind ever Joel Schumacher like makes these movies where he's just really cruel to his characters and really like beats the shit out of them. And it like, I remember in phone booth, which is not a good movie. But there's one scene where he's on the phone with Keefer Sutherland while the prostitutes

and the Pimp are, I don't even remember why they want to yell at him, but they're like banging on the outside of the phone booth while he's trying to deal with Keefer Sutherland. He has too much stimuli that he can't all respond to. And that was the only moment that movie that was any good to me because it was like, this is really making me anxious. Like, there's too much going on for this character to deal with. I mean, it's something that you can relate to. Like, it's really me alone in the fucking phone booth.

And I'm on the phone. And it almost, it doesn't totally make up the fact that the character that movie's being punished for having had a lustful thought about it a woman who is not his wife Is that really with the yeah, it turns out he has to admit at the end that he was sexually attracted to this woman who works for him He but they never he never acted on it. Yes, the sniper makes him reveal this to his wife Like he's really sexy, but and I that, but we never acted on it. I never wanna date with her. It's like, basically- He's being punished for being a human being.

Yeah, like Jimmy Carter wrote this script. Like, he felt lost in his heart. That's just as bad. What's, who's it doing that? I forget how Keefer Sutherland knows this thing about him. Is this crazy sniper who just traps him in his phone? This is also the same problem with the trespass.

The idea that like there's no, you don't, like it doesn't matter how a twist is revealed or set up or if even realized that information in the audience did not know. Any twist is an interesting new exciting twist that will change the audiences. That'll make the audience more excited. Like, and certain points in this movie, especially by the end of it, there's just so much that you just don't really,

you know, you're no longer invested in any of the characters anymore. You just want like the, but it almost makes you dependent on the twists for, yeah, for plot, for just, for just being engaged at a certain number of twists, a certain critical mass of twists, you need like many, many more twists, you know? You need, you need nothing but twists after I would say like, it needs to be accelerating number. Yeah, if you have like three twists in the movie, you need 30 twists and you need them all to, to be revealed like, like exponentially.

And then well, the twists have to get crazier each time or bigger each time. So like, oh, and it turns out Nicholas Cage has came to Jan. It's father. Yeah, yeah. And turns out this is a world where Apes rule. And... Yeah, well, it's a movie. That's what I've been saying about it.

That's what it was, it was a failure of a movie. But I think that we have to give our final judgments now. We're about that time. Final judgments. This is where we decide whether this was a good, bad movie. Whether it is scarily horrifying. No, about that time. I don't judgements. This is where we decide whether this was a good bad movie. Whether it is scarily horrifying. No, no, again, terrifyingly good. Those are only special shocked over a cat or equally bad good. I was going to be like, over one. This is a, it's like much more exciting cat.

And Stuart sometimes rates it on a scale of Warmey boners. Nobody else. Not a canonical method of rating. No one understands what it doesn't mean anything. You make up the numbers each time. I'm not even really sure what a Warmey boner is. I'm assuming it's a bone with worms in it. That's our like a corp's boner. Yeah. Just like that movie Tim Burton's the corp's boner. I thought I thought you have said Warmey isn't like it's a warm pleasant boner as opposed to the sort of colder

You know, like cold the cold like the like the ones like you're just not from that cold blood that's rushing into your Like when mr. Freeze is aroused. Yeah No, is this a good bad movie a movie that you drive pleasure from because it is bad, a bad, bad movie movie just just like or movie you kind of like when they find redeeming facets about Elliot. I think I'm going to say I thought it was a good bad movie. Yeah. I didn't think I was going to enjoy it at all, but it was so stupid and the twists kept coming by the end and it was so loud and fast that even though it is really bad, it was bad in a funny way.

Yeah, Jubin? Yeah, I guess I would agree with that too. There's twists are pretty entertaining after a certain point. That's like, I think I would go so far to say that excessive plot twist or what separate a bad, bad movie from a good, bad movie. Hmm, interesting. Yeah, I, the Prang theory of good, bad, bad, bad, and that an anant, I would say the Pr of good bad bad bad Yeah, like the separation line. I would say the praying theories is that number plot twists is very highly correlated with good bad

It's been a loss as we had one of these but I'm also gonna say you're right too long Bad this is a good bad movie. It's a you know, it's very fast. It's 90 minutes long I mean there's there is a bit of a drag in the middle. it. It definitely gets draggy when the characters have yelled at each other and throw Each other to the ground for the 80th time. There's a lot of twists. It's only 90 minutes. It's a masterclass in terrible acting There's some good CGI fire at the end. Yeah, I can't understand it just like burst to the point But like like he had like a big drink of kerosene before yeah, I wish it becomes the fire Yeah, I wish they just went all the fire. Yeah, very much. At least they just went all the way

and had evil spirits escape from his body while he was on fire. Wow. So that's a good, that's a good, good, bad movie. Trust pass. I think it was worth the trace passos. I have a few letters to read here. This is the part where we answer fan letters. You guys get fan letters?

Oh, yeah. This is a high class operation you've hooked up with. I wish I hadn't revealed all that information by my fraternity. I didn't know it was going to be so popular. This is from someone who says, call me Mippy on air. OK, Mippy. It's weird.

I hope it's not a sex thing. Give me the dignity of Mippy. They call me misto Mippy. And she says it's an email titled Meow. Already, Alvin Wood starts. So Mippy wrote to say Meow. I'm sure this is not a cat who's learning to work in computer. Yeah.

And she says, I work in a job that involves watching many film trailers. I'm being deliberately vague to avoid the sack. I think this is why she's calling herself Mippy. Ah, I see. And you're making that code, Mippy. Your podcast makes me feel as though you're watching the whole thing so I don't have to. So I have a suggestion. Did lesbian vampire killers make it over the US. I mean, treat no if it is awful only if you were British and familiar with the

charmless comedians which start within. With a title like that you may expect trashy final on the lines of brain dead dead alive but I have the feeling you won't be getting it. I actually feel like I expected to be a seduction cinema film with like Misty Monday in it. Yeah. Well, I bring this up because to bolster my reputation as pervazoid number one. Have you seen this movie already? I've seen Lesbian Vampire killers. And I was like, how is a British movie? It's a British movie. It's a tongue-in-cheaf, but I mean, it's not. They had Dan at Lesbian and they got him at Vampire. tongue and chief. I mean, I guess not. They had Dan at lesbian and they got him at vampire. It's a, you know, no, it's a comedy. It's a horror comedy. It's trying to be a comedy,

at least. But this is, I bring this up to just, I feel like diagnosed a problem with exploitation films these days, which is that they're not exploitative enough. Like all of the exploitation. In respect to the actresses too much. Ellie, I know some things, so don't pretend to respect women kind more than you actually do. But I just, it's interesting to me that way. I know some things. It's interesting to me that like plus two was four for one. So, you're quite about win. I just think it's funny that I feel like exploitation, modern exploitation movies, even ones that like plus two was four for one. So, you're quite about win.

I just think it's funny that I feel like exploitation, modern exploitation movies, even ones that like, especially ones that are like campy or tongue and cheek, like they pack all of the exploitation into the title. Yeah. And then they don't follow through, like I mean, like they don't have the sense of fun

that they need to have. That's what most exploitation movies were like though. That's true. Where they would give you a title that was really crazy and maybe a couple moments for a trailer and then the rest would be like characters driving between locations or bands that had paid to appear in the movie or things like that.

But you're right, there's no people should have no better than to do that now, because they know what makes a good exploitation-y, you know, cheapy movie. Yeah makes a good exploitationy, you know, cheapy movie. Yeah, like I feel like, you know, we should, we, you know, we should have a higher class of exploitation by now, as you've been. What would you, what, I'm not really familiar with modern exploitation, but what would you say would be like a modern one, aside from lesbian and vampire killers, when that would be more popular that I would know about, for example, you know, I mean, drive entry 3d was basically a big budget exploitation movie. Unfortunately,

it didn't get the balance right. And there are times when it was a little too gross, like when you had the main like any time a nude woman was on screen, they were either going to get beaten up or traumatized. And it was like, yeah, I don't need that. But I don't know, like, you know, you, I mean, Dan always has a self-spot for movies with, you know, bikini girls or things like that, you know, or. Yeah, I mean, I was, he was exploding. But there's, we all like those things. Haha, so yeah, I think exploitation, I think of like the trauma video, like films of the 80s,

like toxic avenger, I think of, I guess like private school, like those movies who were, they were just basically thinly veiled excuses to show. I do enjoy the 80s, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I guess that's what I think of when I think of exploitation. That's probably not what the air was. And then there's the horror side of it, you know, where you have like, there was like some

great stuff in the 80s, like, reanimator or evil dead that was like not, didn't have like the sex thing, but it was like a splatter comedy. It seems like exploitation movies kind of came up because people could make really cheap movies that they could get a lot of money on fast because they would just put in the elements that would play the lowest common denominator. And then you had basically it seemed like a generation or two of people who really liked those elements and were willing to put a certain amount of enthusiasm and craft and energy into making

those movies. And they knew what buttons they had to hit, but they hit them harder and better because they liked doing it. It wasn't just a quick cash grab. And now I feel like we have a generation of people who have nostalgia for the idea of exploitation, but like want to make the PG 13 version of that. They want to make it, they want to make an acceptable mainstream,

yeah, respectable version, and you can't do it without losing that, the frison of that made it. I bet you, I bet you were 10 years out from a Tarantino of 80s TNA movies. Yeah. I really, I really like, yeah, I think I'm like in 10, 15 years,

I'm gonna sign someone like, once our age gets to have control of directorial level studio money, you'll see like a resurgence of like 80s TNA, like in homage the way he does to those 70s leisure movies. I kind of feel like the American Pine movies were a little bit like that. Yeah, a little bit. A bunch of guys just try to get ready.

Yeah. But yeah, but like Tarantino seems to be one of the few guys who like gets the things that made those exploitation movies fun and has the end does it to the hilt, you know, but doesn't do it so much to the hilt that you're like, this makes me feel gross. So to move on this.org email is from you can make it this is mippy again well I'll just read it because it she explains but it's titled an excuse to get Elliott to talk even more yay I don't need it I don't need a baby let me tell you about my dad I don't know I woke up 6.30 a.m. like always okay that yeah it says I decided that since

there's been confusion caused by the similarities in my first name and Dan Dan's wife's first name Mm-hmm. I would identify myself using only my last name, which is Aron I think it's Aron maybe Aaron, but I'll say Aron Error God Error Gorn I was recently prusing a coffee of earth the book which I'd stolen from a local book merchant. I don't approve of that No residuals for anyone. Oh, we don't get royalties on that Okay, and I noticed that in the chapter on death. There's a picture of the crypt keeper

Knowing that Ellie it was a writer for the book and knowing that he seems to be a fan of the pun-tastic corpse I have to ask how much begging and pleading was used in order to get the crypt keeper in the book and how many puns went unpublished Take as much time as possible to tell some of those jokes now in the cryptkeeper's voice, of course. Thanks for all the laughs and tears, Jents. I mean, I don't know. I don't know whether you can say like what jokes were who's or anything.

I can say what jokes, some of which jokes were mine, but I don't remember who's who's for all of them. I mean, it does not take a lot to get the Cryptkeeper into a daily show thing. At some point, it was like the daily show decided that certain things that Elliott likes were just going to go in fairly easily like the Cryptkeeper or the X-Men. Some things don't. I wrote a Mac and Me joke the other day that I thought was great that didn't get in. But I mean, you know, culturally, I think that Mac and me has less penetration. It's a touchstone. It's a major touchstone. Okay.

But what was the, so what's the, I, I'm sorry, I lost a big question. It's a picture of the crypt keeper. But like that was, I don't think I wrote the crypt keeper joke. I don't think. But, you know, there's a very specific sensibility that the show, that the people at the show have and I fit into it. So. All right. Well, this, this email is tied right in and

ask about any other jokes. And I'll let you know if I wrote them or not. The email is titled, finally, it's from John last name withheld and it says, after four years, four months and eight days of flop house episodes, someone finally called Dan out on his inability to correctly pronounce the short e-sound in the English language.

I'm referring to Eliot's confusion starting around 1938 in the Conan the Barbarian episode, upon hearing Dan apparently mention winches. Yeah, you started talking about Dan apparently mentioned winches. Yeah, you started talking about having sex with winches. Why this weird? Why this particular abuse of our mother tongue happened to catch LAs at ear, I'll never know, coming as it did after 93 previous podcasts in which Dan opined about the temperature observed tense moments. Temperature. Tins, yeah.

Discussed revenge plots and marbled at tentacle creatures. Tentacle. Later in the... Stintit Illinois accent. Conan episode. Dan read a letter in which a listener described Elliot as, according to Dan, a general peedent. This is what's commonly known as a teachable moment. Here was an opportunity

for Dan to practice his short e-sound in two consecutive words. Instead, he chose to horribly mispronounce both words, surely angering the pedantic champ versus champ letter writer. But this time his co-host were silent. Stuart, I assume, had slipped into his customary late episode Popeye's adduce coma. Doesn't eat Popeyes. Stuart doesn't eat the Popeyes I do. But when Dan came for these short... He's a, it's a core's light induced coma. Ha ha ha. When Dan came for these short ease, Elliott also said nothing. Perhaps when Dan comes for the doubled consonants, there will be no one left to speak for Elliott. No! John last name with hello. That hits me where I live.

PS5 and 7 pounds seem like Taylor made him enemies. One demands a particular exact quantity, quantity in his crimes, while the other habitually adds one to the expected amount. Together they could launch a golden age of OCD comic rivalries. Now, look, I, uh, I like the idea of a 5 head, 7 pounds crossover. I have to say, well, let's address this character assassination because of your terrible way with pronouncing things. Well, see, pronouncing, he didn assassination because of your terrible way with pronouncing things. Well, see, pronouncing, he didn't even catch me. There's pronouncing things. Your fans are both obsessive and very critical. We love us. Combination of characteristics for your fans to have.

First, let me assure you that in day to day life, I've had plenty of people point out my ability to differentiate for instance between the thing people put in clothes and the thing people write with. Markers. No. Pen and pen. I say them the same. Oh, yeah.

So you would say, Pig pen, when you mean pig pen. And you would say pen pig, when you mean a pig that you use as a pen. I don't think he switches them. He just can't say one. I speak in most cases with a with a with a perfect newscasters American accent. And there's one case for some reason he decides that he needs to be a jerk and pick out my charming regionalism. Like say entomology. Entomology.

Yeah, entomology. Yeah, you say it all weird. You know, Tom Broca has that one small, glottal stuff. I feel like this is what distinguishes you and gives you that extra. Tom Broca can't even finish words. But that's his thing though. Oh, all the great newscasters.

I've got one small distinguishing characteristics that really raised them above just the average effluvia of newscasters. I'd say this is... There's like hell, Walter Conquate. He only said the with a Spanish accent. Yeah. And he liked today there. President went to that kind of thing.

I mean, everyone has their charming regionalisms. I mean, no one has called Stuart out on his amazing Fort Wayne accent. I can't even tell. He sounds like Shakespeare himself. Stuart has one. He sounds like the platonic ideal of the English language. Stuart has one of the most extravagant voices of anyone I've met.

And I thought it was just Stuart and Tom and met two other people from Fort Wayne. I think what it is that Stuart, those out of his way to twist so many of his words, like the fact that he says, Samumri and meowister, that at that point, I just assume he does any mispronunciations on purpose. No, part of that is like he has, he is actually a Fort Wayne Droll.

Okay. But I would like to thank the podcast listeners for being enough of a dick to point out my mispronunciations. I don't want to come back on this thing. If this is the level of fan recep rates for the fans, I don't, I wish we on this thing if this is the We got a fan reset Yeah, I don't I wish we hadn't said my name in the beginning. Are there any other letters? There are let's save the last one for next time because we're running long and just get straight to Recommendations of movies that we saw that we might want to

Recommendate point people to instead of a trespass. But all although we compass. We got a lot of joy out of trespass. It's not a bad movie. It's just a watch movie. I mean, it's not a, it's not a, it wouldn't be the worst choice to just watch with some friends on a, that's true. On a winner night. That's right. Winter.

I'm not romantic. You're snowing at a cabin. You have the movies with friends app. Yeah. This is a good thing to watch with your friends. Like it caught up in the story while you are planning how to murder and eat them. Yeah, because you don't have enough food in the cabin. Yeah, so winter night.

Or if you just want to watch it with them on that winter's night. Like, whatever your range of motives are, this is a good movie to fulfill them. Should I go first? Sure. I'm going to recommend two things. First, on February 1st, Wednesday night, I'm going to be showing my regular monthly movie screening series in 1992. I try back. We're showing dead end with Humphrey Bogart Sylvia Sydney, Joel McCray,

it's a William Wiler movie produced by Samuel Goldwyn, screenplay by Lilian Helman, all starcast and by before end behind the camera and the movie they introduced the world to the dead end kids you might know them as the Bowery boys. It's a really good old classic. No, it's a good, good movie. It's an old classic Hollywood drama and very good. I'll be showing that. I also saw a recently movie that I enjoyed a comedy called The Good Fairy from the 30s that Preston Sturgis wrote and then actually I think William Wiler directed that too. And it wasn't an amazing movie, but it was a very delightful, you know, old style 30s comedy.

Light like a soap bubble, Dan. Uh, I don't know that I have one. I haven't met it. I can't remember movies that I've seen recently. We just we talked about this on the subway here. I haven't had time of watching television. I will say that I got HBO go on my iPad. And I started watching Band of Brothers, which I didn't think I was

going to like because I feel like there was a whole slew of greatest generation bullshit that got thrown at us all at once. Yeah, wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. The negative letters. No, but this is all pray-a-lot to say that I started watching it and I'm really enjoying it.

So, that's not a movie, but it's a film thing that I have enjoyed. Jouven Goll. I was actually talking about this earlier with Dan Elliott about Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy, which I really enjoyed watching the movie version with Gary Oldman. With Gary Oldman, you saw it with him. I saw it with him. He was embarrassed to see himself on film, which I think is endearing, but he's, you know, but I was telling him, Gary, you're great in this.

And unfortunately, he just kept nudging you with this album when he was a good part. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Watch this part. This is a good part. He really distracted me. I saw the theaters, but I had seen the the Alliguinness mini-series that beforehand, and I would recommend the mini-series and not the movie, there's a little twist. Watch the movie, definitely watch the movie.

That is a trespass level twist. That is a trespass level twist. Watch the miniseries first, if you haven't already seen the movie. I think you'll enjoy it a bit more. It's six hours, which it's a British miniseries from the 70s, it's longer, but it delts more into the characters who might be the mole.

And so the plot is much more richly rewarding, and the final reveal of the mole is much more rewarding when you know all the possible moles. The movie, I think, is crams a bit too much. I still think it should have gotten a best picture nomination over half of the ones that were revealed yesterday, usually. You've been railing against particularly warhorse and extremely lad and incredibly close getting a nomination of taking care of it. Those are not best picture worthy movies. Yeah, I think that when, I mean, it's all relative. And I think though, especially-

And the Oscars are also ludicrous and bunk, you know? Yeah, you know, I every time I complain about the Oscars, I always think of that and never helps my- Still gets mad. Yeah, never like weekends my angry. It's just ridiculous that people who are supposed to do this for a living would be like, well, the help is certainly deserving of the whole night of fanfare. Well, you have a deep well of rage, you know, like head in between, like a veil of pleasant

this. I do. I do. I do. There's a lot of. I got that well fracking. A lot of fracking. It's really low. It's not going to help us guys. No, and the long run is just more damage. Really inflated view. We're not going to get a hundred years of gas out of that. Who knows what chemicals they've pumped into

human to get that rage out of there? I was in the focus of this podcast. I got a shift in the last two minutes. It's 50. You're right. We should say this movie discussion to intense minutes of leftist activism. We should say this for the frack house. The frack house, which starts right now. Welcome to frack. It's very disappointing. People think that it's a baluster galactica fan cast, but that's the galact house. Galagha house. Our classic video game. Yeah. Anyway, house. Our classic video game. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway. So, as you've been thank you so much for coming on. Hey, here's the thing. Anything you want to plug? Oh, uh, but quickly. Yeah, sure. Well, I, uh, no, no, there's no, there's nothing I want to plug. Yeah, yeah, a real waste of time. It was kind of sprung on me.

I have nothing going on right now. That's worth anybody knowing about. I mean, just Google's Jubin Prang. It's spelled like a text. It's spelled like a text. Jou as in Jubin. Yeah. Go to IMDb.

Look up the Daily Show. Go down the list of writers. Find the one that looks like it would be a lot of work. Jubin Prang. A lot of work. Google that even perform a lot of work? Google that. Really? A lot of work. See things that you just, you know, browse through, see things you wish you hadn't.

But thanks for listening and thanks again to everyone who came on some of the live show. Thanks for having me on. I appreciate it. Our pleasure. Nice work. Yeah, thanks for everyone who came to live show and for everyone to listen tonight. Today, to now and a big thank you to our fans. That your fans.

It's very presumptuous. For the flop house, I've been Dan McCoy. I will continue to be Elliot Kaelin or Will I? And I'm Juman Perang guest. Goodnight everyone. the Is that what it's just gotta do? So that word ends as much as possible? Yeah, if possible.

It's like how in space they use space for them.