The Flop House - The Flop House: Episode #97 - Awards Floptacular 2012

Episode Date: March 4, 2012

0:00 - 0:33 - Introduction and theme.0:34 - 34:00 - We discuss The Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences' top honor. You know, the one they entrusted to Billy Crystal.34:01 - 44:29 - We bestow t...he most coveted of all awards: The Floppies.44:30 - 1:00:02 - Flop House Movie Mailbag1:00:03 - 1:07:40  - Some year-end recommendations from 20111:07:41 - 1:10:02 - Plugs, theme, and outtakes.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 It's the 2012 Awards Blood Tacular, where all of Hollywood's dimest stars come out to shine. Hey everyone, welcome to the flop house, I'm Dan McCoy. I'm Stuart Wellington. I'm Elliot Kaylin. I said that the way you say Stuart Wellington. It's pretty good. Hey, it's the traditionally cursed episode. Don't say Hadoos. What?
Starting point is 00:00:47 Treat us like human beings. We're not animals. Hey, would you like something to say? I like it. Yes, I guess I am an animal. I like enjoying hay. Because you're a ruminant. What?
Starting point is 00:00:57 You're eating it. You need to go to the one of your first stuff. Well, I have a wife. I hardly call her a roommate. Yeah, we live in the same place. Okay, this is the worst who's on first ever. No, I was just saying that this is our... Four stomachs.
Starting point is 00:01:09 Four stomachs. I thought that my four stomachs material was going to kill you guys, but no. This is our word's flotacular episode. Okay. What's that mean? It means that it's the one episode a year where we don't watch a movie beforehand. We just talk about the awards, the Academy Awards. What awards would those be? The Academy Awards of the Motion Picture Arts and Sciences. Oscars. Oscars.
Starting point is 00:01:37 Oh yeah, the grouchies. The awards given out by Oscar the Grouch for Best Garbage. The Grimzbees. So, and we're also recording this on a leap day. So there's a good chance that it'll get, uh, a good crazy sucked into a portal of time. I don't know why that would happen. I don't, because don't these things only happen on grand conjunctions or something. I don't just once every four years. I was again, what, what, what, what a mean.
Starting point is 00:02:04 Rand conjunctivitis is what you're at. What means actually steward is that because your apprentice your apprenticeship was set to end with this podcast, you're actually forced to do this podcast for another four years. Oh, wow. Yeah. My sorcerers apprenticeship. Yeah. That's a movie we watched for the flop house earlier this
Starting point is 00:02:23 year. A call back to all our listeners. There's some other callbacks later on. The show and some back calls and some cock balls. That's it take callback and you move the ALL and the CK. Why is it mean something else? I thought I can think of. So the Oscars. And that's cars.
Starting point is 00:02:41 I told my other. I told my arm rambling that it was a really exciting broadcast was it there was music, Billy Crystal saying that stupid song he sings every year. That's already acrobatic. I mean, I don't know about you guys, but I was I was already concerned that it was going to be boring when when I saw that Billy Crystal was hosting no offense. Billy Crystal. He's just done a lot.
Starting point is 00:03:05 No, that is the only way Billy Crystal can take that is with offense. He's done that. Whoa, low blow. Whoa, blow. He is an octogenarian who was put in his time. No, he's not. But he's, well, he's sticky. That's it for him.
Starting point is 00:03:22 He's like, yeah, like that product they sell on TV that cleans up cat hair. It's called sticky. It was probably the most boring Oscars I can remember seeing and it's a big, let's just get this out of the way. Every year everyone says that was the worst Oscars ever. Every year. Yeah, yes.
Starting point is 00:03:38 And this is the first time I agree with them. Yeah, last year everyone was like, this was the worst Oscars ever. Anne Hathaway and James Franco. How awkward. I could use a double dose of Franco and Anne Hathaway. Yeah, last year everyone was like, this was the worst Oscars ever. Anne Hathaway and James Franco. How awkward. I could use a double dose of Franco and Anne Hathaway. Yeah, last year it was an Oscars where I was like, this didn't totally work,
Starting point is 00:03:50 but they tried some different things, at least it had some kind of energy, even if it was nervous energy. But this year it was like on autopilot. It was just like, get Billy Crystal, have, insert the Oscars disc, so he can run that program. And then everyone else, the same old stars just walk out and do whatever.
Starting point is 00:04:07 Like, let's keep this moving as quickly as possible. Let's keep it moving unless we're having a montage of actors talking to the camera about how great movies are. Or were she at that opening montage, which was just like, these are the most montage, montage scenes of the past. Oh, when he was, he's like, movies are great, huh? montage scenes of the past. Oh, when he was 15 years. Movies are great, huh? Here's a little reminder, and then it's like, we're gonna need a big a boat.
Starting point is 00:04:30 Go on off, we can't refuse. See the world. Yeah, keep the world. It's like a box of chocolates. It's like, it was almost like, Tiana Reeves and the Matrix, like instead of teaching them Kung Fu, they were like, by the way,
Starting point is 00:04:42 here's a quick history of all the movies that beat box office records over the past, you know, 20 years, and they just shoved those scenes in his head. That reminds me, they've been advertising the upcoming Titanic release in 3D. Yeah. And the commercials say from the director of Avatar. So they're using the, like, the biggest grossing movie of all time to promote the second biggest grossing movie. Yeah, well because there's a generation of young like teenage girls and boys I assume, but mostly girls who would want to see it, but who don't know James Cameron and don't
Starting point is 00:05:15 know the old. Blue aliens and fring going shit. Teach me about history. Teach me about boat sinking. Teach me about hearts and how they go on. Yeah. And about posing for new pictures in the back of old timey cars. I mean, I think it's a new generation to Billy Zane. I'm all for it.
Starting point is 00:05:35 Because you know what? He's struggling a little right now. Yeah. He is. He's not doing this is not the age of Zane. Let's just say that but Yeah, it's just an autopilot Oscars like super dull and super Rote and it was like these big stars would walk out and it's like
Starting point is 00:05:57 Tom Cruise and Jalena Jolie like okay, like Robert and junior These I feel like these are the same stars we see all the time In the movie is not television and one of the things that was most exciting to me last year was when Kirk Douglas came out. And everyone was like, oh, he looks so old. Why is he on television? Yeah. And like, what? Mumbra out of his tomb. Should I be fighting Lionel? But that was me and I was complaining the whole time.
Starting point is 00:06:22 Really? Well, you did think it was Mumbra. I was like, is that a skexies? Is this a thing for Jim Hanson? What's going on? But like it was very exciting to me at least and I assume to old people to see like like you Yeah, like me people are old at heart to see like an old star who is Genuinely iconic and you don't see that much anymore like he hasn hasn't done movies since, what was his last one, like diamonds, what it was called, the movie he made with, well, Dan Acroid.
Starting point is 00:06:49 Yeah. And there's no one he made with. And Jenny McCarty. Michael Douglas too. Maybe that was diamonds. And he hasn't been in the, he hasn't been in the tabloids lately for all his party. And no, well, because he's been recovering over the past
Starting point is 00:07:02 a number of years from a stroke. But so he hasn't been having like stroke parties, but We're I guess you know to play and But like wow you do stroke parties a little different than the way I do But it was really usually it's party of one, but there was something that seems Waiter party of one, please masturbating party of one You'll need to come by later on with your rag.
Starting point is 00:07:28 Oh, what? Oh, you don't, I can't believe you do that. See, you have a perfectly good cat in your apartment. Just entice you over. Thank you, Stuart, for taking the heat off of me. Gross. So anyway, what I was saying about Kirk Douglas was, there was something special about it.
Starting point is 00:07:47 It's not someone you see a lot. And on Mark Evenier's blog, he was talking about how they needed, what they could have switched up to presenters, like have somebody, somebody you don't see a lot come out. And I think what he suggests, like Mel Brooks and Carl Ryan are come out and present something. Or Roger Ebert comes out and presents something with his like computer program voice.
Starting point is 00:08:08 Just like something that would make it feel like a special event, like they're pulling out the stops and things you wouldn't normally see, you know. Well, speaking of the elderly, can I talk about the two things that... The more about Billy Crystal? Yeah, okay. No, can I talk you about the two things
Starting point is 00:08:21 that actively angered me about this thing? This year, number one, it went on way too long. No, the opposite. That's a bedtime. Well, once again, they snubbed Abogora. In the interests of speed, I guess, or maybe just trying to keep people young, they get again, shunted off the lifetime achievement,
Starting point is 00:08:43 honorary stuff. Yeah, to a pre-taped thing. To a pre-taped thing. So you just get like, you know, quick snippets of like James Earl Jones and what like the, who's the Dixmith, the makeup artist. Make-up artist. Well, you'd think that at least put, they'd want Oprah on the prime time cast. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:59 But like, how much more exciting would it have been to have James Earl Jones who hasn't done a movie in forever? Yeah. So how much more exciting would it have been to have James well Jones who hasn't done a movie and forever? Yeah, to have him give a speech then to have like I Don't know who to who talked in the thing like one of Paltrow You know to have came camera and Diaz and the camera days and Jolo just taking their butts at the camera presented to us like Benobos so that was a
Starting point is 00:09:21 Thing but also I didn't pay attention to remiss. So that angered me. Really, the part with about women's butts didn't you pay attention to? Yeah, I was in paydish. I missed that part. I was like, it was like the part where people were arguing over whether there was a nip slip on the internet. Oh, no, no, no. I paid attention to that part.
Starting point is 00:09:37 So what you saw was you were so busy investigating the nip slip. Yeah, exactly. Well, I was quickly liable. Your eyeballs, your nip off. When like the posterior is put. Well, I was quickly. Your eyeballs. Your nip off when like the posterior is put. Yeah, of course it goes. I start playing old timey movies in the back of my old timey movies. Other time movies like goonies and
Starting point is 00:09:57 old timey. Yeah, like so one, the Phantom Menace, the classics in 3D, the canonical classics. Sure. So, but that angered Jamescape. Dream Quest. Jamescape. I really, all of us movies.
Starting point is 00:10:12 Broken Dagger. Now we're just naming movies guys. The Falcon and the Snowman. Shutter of the Navigator. The Snowgames. Baby Legend of Lostinosaur. That's actually a move. It's called Mrs. Frisbee and the rats of Nym.
Starting point is 00:10:29 No, it's not. The movie's called Tymie. Oh yeah, that's right, secret Nym. Don Bluth, ruining the titles of our classics. So yeah, classics like the Pebble and the Penguin and Rocket. And Noam in Central Park and Balto. So I know I agree with you. I think they could, it felt a little bit like the first time I went into a movie theater,
Starting point is 00:10:50 and I went in expecting to see the movie trivia and actually have trivia. Interesting trivia that you might not get. And instead, it was all just commercials for movies that are about to be released. Oh yeah. Or TNT shows. Yeah. And that's kind of how it felt. It felt like everybody that went up there was either, had been doing stuff very consistently
Starting point is 00:11:14 or was super famous or had a movie to plug. Yeah, but also, I mean, you talk about Elliot, how the Oscars are really just an advertisement for movies. Yeah, and they're advertising it in the most wrote cheap, like if they're making, they're devaluing movies by putting a slap of gold paint over the movies rather than having it gilded all the way through. Yeah, well, because...
Starting point is 00:11:37 If they honored the actual idea of there being a history to the movies, that's more of an idea of true glamour, I feel like. But they're... And and present the next award Ben Stiller and a can of Pepsi. You are delicious Pepsi. Although. Ben Stiller and Emma Stone was one of the few times that Junior M. laughed at something that was happening not because I mean because I was really selling. He went on for a long time. Yeah, but she seemed to Junior and like she cared about the bit that she was doing. Like everyone else was selling out the bits and the bits are terrible.
Starting point is 00:12:06 That's all, but she managed to almost make that work through the force of... And she's pretty girl next door. She's pretty girl next door. She's pretty girl next door. I mean, who did you live next door to? Emma Stone. Super hot, super hot, cool girl. But the other thing that fought zombies.
Starting point is 00:12:23 The other thing that bothered me though was along the same lines was the in memoriam like the in memoriam looked like it was made on like an old Macbook like you know it was just like on MacBook Pro. Yeah, but it was it was just white fade ends and fade out of pictures like it was only it was like halfway through before they showed any film clips at all and there were very few film clips. I mean, they had a lot of people that, in that listing that were not actors. And maybe they're trying to expand that, so it's not so an actor-
Starting point is 00:12:53 And that's the thing, the content of it, there were a lot more people who worked in the technical side of movies, which is something I appreciated. But you can still show some of their work. I mean, that's the thing, like, if you- I guess so, like, if you care about what their work was. Like, it's like, it's like, teach people who don't know who those people are.
Starting point is 00:13:07 Yeah. But I was just so like I was just so happy that they ended on Elizabeth Taylor and not Whitney Houston. No, that's fine. But as far as I'm concerned, the best part of it in Memorim is like you take a walk through people's work. Like people who have left us, like this is the actual work they did. Like in Rocky Balboa, how he walks through his memories. Yeah, but this is why we're honoring these people.
Starting point is 00:13:29 This is why we're remembering them. They did these things. But that's that section, and I agree with you, I would love it if the whole show was, I would love it if that was sprinkled throughout the show. And it was just a whole show just did that. Award, obituary, award obituary. But to them, that is a,
Starting point is 00:13:43 just an obligatory thing they have to get through. But that is the thing that,, every year, actually cares about. That is one part of the Oscar ceremony that people, reviewers, actually care about. Whether they care about it in the way that you might care about it, you're like, okay, this is movie history, or they just care about it. It's like, who's going to be in this year? I mean, that's what, were they going to end on? I think you hit it when you said that's what reviewers care about.
Starting point is 00:14:07 But they're not trying to get reviewers, they're trying to get audience members because. Trying to get butts in the seats. Exactly, because the problem with the oscar. The butts are already in the seats too. They're gonna be there. They're honored to be there. The problem with, but the home butts.
Starting point is 00:14:18 Okay, the problem with the oscar seats. That's a great great movie, by the way, home butts. The problem with the oscar as with the the Emmys is that this the these are not real award ceremonies these are Television programs and we win our Elliott Kaelin. This is the Emmy now that I have two of them I can tell you it's all fake, but these are Television there's a treat that like television shows that happened to be about awards being given out and the important thing to them is not We're going to really honor the people
Starting point is 00:14:45 who won tonight, we're going to honor this industry. It is, we got to put together an Oscars that finally gets big ratings and that draws eyeballs and interests to young people and they, it's treated like a competitive television program. It does get good enough ratings. Like that's the thing. It gets good enough ratings
Starting point is 00:15:01 that they haven't yet canceled it. But it doesn't get the ratings that got in the 70s. But it's never going to. Like nothing on television is. But they want it to. But nothing on television is. Like I think that's the point. And frankly, at this point,
Starting point is 00:15:13 it doesn't get the ratings that it needs to justify the money spent on it by networks is part of it. Like to carry the Oscars or the MEs used to be like a big thing. Like we got it this year and now it's just like Push it. It's our turn I guess well
Starting point is 00:15:28 All right, we'll run this turd, you know, we'll make it happen It's gonna smell no matter what it's gonna stink would just hold our noses and just put Billy Crystal out there and hope Everyone forgets about it by next year. All right. Well now that I've invented my spleen a little like you guys can talk about something I was gonna say those vents are beautiful. Did you get those done recently? Yeah, I mean because I've vented my spleen a little, like you guys can talk about something. I was going to say those vents are beautiful. Did you get those done recently? Yeah, I mean, because I've been looking into spleen vents and they're very expensive. The thing is to like recess them so you don't really see them from the outside. Yeah, I had to look very closely. That's expensive by-o-ware. So, on the subject of... Existence.
Starting point is 00:16:01 What? On the subject of Whitney Houston, I was arguing with my buddies in the in the army in the video game chat rooms. Just kidding. But I was asking their message boards. I was arguing. So I mean, she died right in 2000. She died right. She's not like she died. She's calling me saying she's went to Houston and everyone thinks she's dead but she's not. I don't think her death fell
Starting point is 00:16:30 within the Oscars category window. They always get they all know the deaths aren't by the same deadlines that the movie nominees are. Oh, okay. And they always get in trouble. It's not like people need to die for a week in LA. Just qualify for the Oscars. And every year. in trouble. It's not like people need to die for a week in LA. Just qualify for the Oscars.
Starting point is 00:16:45 And every year, nice one. Sure. And every year, they get shot on by somebody for forgetting someone who died right before the awards. So I think they just air inside. And when they forgot Sarah Marshall, that was terrible. She was mad on some movie. It's a name of a movie, Elliot.
Starting point is 00:17:03 Dying ceremonial. Yeah. OK, well, I guess I lost the argument. I'm supposed to. So Noob Slayer 27, IOUA Mountain Dew. Noob Slayer 28, I still stand by my point. But it hurt that this was an Oscar's where a lot of the movies were not big movies.
Starting point is 00:17:24 Like there were no avatars Like there were no avatars. There were no avatars. There were no lords of the rings. There were no tights nannocks. There were no exceptions. There were no exceptions. No darks nights. You put up.
Starting point is 00:17:38 I'll add letters and tell all sorts of words. You make fun of me for reciting song lyrics as if there are jokes. Well, I'm just inserting extra letters. Okay, so we're none of us perfect. We talked about the telecast. Should we talk about nominees? Well, that's what I was getting into. I'll tell you something. Rise of the plan of the apes should one best visual effects. Hey, let's all say I'm not sure I agree, but let's all say one positive thing about the Oscar telecast to kind of clear the air before we get to the nominee section.
Starting point is 00:18:10 Clear that. And all start smell out of the way. I liked the Christopher guest bit until it went too long. Yeah. I thought a qualified compliment. And I thought Fred Willard was very funny. I liked it. For some reason it was less funny to me hearing the audience laugh,
Starting point is 00:18:26 like it was as if there was a laugh track to it. But I liked the bit in general. I thought it was, I liked the idea. I didn't think it really fit. There was no read that was like the subject of that bit was totally inconsequential and had nothing to do with the rest of the, hey, you know these focus groups? We've all dealt with them.
Starting point is 00:18:43 Here's a little bit about focus groups in the 30s. Yeah. All right. Is this supposed to seem relevant? Because, but I liked the idea of doing that kind of a bit. I'll say that in addition to, as I said before, enjoying the young Miss Emma Stone. I, uh, the young Miss Emma Stone Chronicles. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:19:00 I did like, I didn't like the practices CGI techniques before the We put some movies. Yeah, I didn't like the whole bit of like what are they thinking? But I did like the end where they just cut to Nick Noltey and he's like Yeah, Nick Noltey was red faced and laughing as if he was going to have a stroke right there I did like to revel I did like the interview with Nick Nolalty on the red carpet where they asked him if he owned a crow and he didn't know what they were talking about for a minute or two before he admitted that he does in fact own a crow. A crow like the bird. Yeah, the bird. Yeah. He got it
Starting point is 00:19:34 from the movie. A maester. You turn. Yeah. Yeah. Is the I thought I would thought you were going to say Dan that you liked. Why is Mike and I not remember his name the Winter the uh... i thought i would thought you were going to say dan uh... that you liked uh... wise might not remember his name the winter best point actor his speech Christopher plumber Christopher plumber speech that was that was the high point of the night for me now he was uh... and we were talking about this work like that's what the outskirts should be
Starting point is 00:19:59 it should be graceful old men uh... it should be it should be hot young women shown off their gams and making jokes and graceful old English men. Yeah, being charming. Well, he's from Canada. Oh, that's right. He's Canadian. I just I discovered when I just see English when I accidentally tweeted that he was English or not accidentally I tweeted that he was English because he sounds like he's English, but he's he's. And you got Dix-lapped. I left like Christopher Plumber with his face checked myself. Oh,
Starting point is 00:20:23 okay. Because I was like, I'm not sure. He checked. He checked his faxes and it was one for Christopher Plummer with his face checked myself. Oh, okay. I'm not sure. Check. He checked his faxes And it was one for Christopher Plummer saying here's my birth certificate just so you can say I'm Canadian like don't so I appreciate the tweet But I am a Canadian gentleman and I think one of the things that did also bugged me about the words was there was it felt like there was this feeling of like Finally Merrill Streef has gotten her due. She's finally won an Academy Award at for all this great work And it's like she has two already And it's like widely regarded that she's like the best actress around
Starting point is 00:20:55 She has one for service choice and one and she has a supporting actress one for For Kramer versus Kramer. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you And she is nominated almost every year. She's nominated almost every year. When she's in doubt and doesn't deserve it. Well, so like this idea, it felt like this idea that like, and maybe they were just trying to spin it so that people weren't mad that Vuella Davis didn't win. But it seemed like they were trying to put a spin on it like finally Hollywood is recognized. I mean, internally un unrecognized, Merrill Stru. I will say for, like does not Susan Luce.
Starting point is 00:21:26 I will say on her behalf though, that she is, she is almost the female equivalent of Christopher Plummer and that she always has a very funny and graceful speech. Oh, no, yeah. Well, no, she's a class act. But, yeah, I have nothing against her. It's not against her.
Starting point is 00:21:42 Yeah, that we, that I have. It's just against this. Like the, they, you maybe even her, it was somewhere in the intro for her. It's not against her. Yeah, that we that I have. It's just against this. Like the they have even even her is somewhere in the intro for her. It was like she's been nominated all these many times and that since the 80s and she's never won. It's like she has two. Like and her her reputation and her legacy are secure. There are a lot of people who are actress that every other actress pretty much wishes they were. Yeah. they're- And have a career that's spanned this much, much time, especially for an actress is really challenging. Yeah, and their actress is like Rachel Weiss,
Starting point is 00:22:11 who I like a lot, who at some point maybe totally forgotten, except for the fact that she hasn't Academy Award. Whereas Merrill Streep is not gonna be forgotten. Like her body of work will last on longer than probably any other actress working today. Buckley movies like Dreamhouse come along. Do you have Rachel voice a little bit? We really cement them.
Starting point is 00:22:30 Yeah. Oh, man. But anyway, the nominee is we're going to talk about. So I said, let's say one thing nice and I started complaining about a bunch of shit. So because I bring it up a bit only because there were a lot, there was a fair amount of, uh, dissent about the, uh, the choice. There was no nominations amount of dissent about the choice. There was no nominations for the dissent. Yep, well, that was a few years ago.
Starting point is 00:22:50 Well, no, that's the way. That name for best, best blind, cannibal cave dwellers. That's the spectraic of that, Elliot. What would you have had when best visual effects, if not? Oh, either resplanes or tree of life. Okay. Tree of life, the creation of theplanes or tree of life. Okay. Tree of like the the creation of
Starting point is 00:23:05 the universe sequences and tree of life were beautiful. And also you could tell done with practical effects. They looked real. And a lot of those effects were like pouring liquids through other liquids and shooting it at the right speed. So it looked like clouds of stars and space does. That was an amazing. It was fantastic. And like as much as rise the plan of the apes was really good visually, I felt a lot of that was acting and not necessarily the effects. But can we, it did not look like real arts. We can agree that like Hugo winning in that category is a weird bandwagon. It's ludicrous.
Starting point is 00:23:39 I mean, Hugo winning in cinematography is ludicrous also. It's supposed to tree of life. As opposed to tree of life, definitely, or as opposed to like as opposed to tree of life definitely, but even like a movie like Drive, which was not nominated, you know. Yeah. Like tree of life was a beautiful movie that was made almost entirely except for like the dinosaurs and some things with
Starting point is 00:23:59 objects that exist in the real world. And I feel like a lot of the art of a cinematographer is taking reality and showing it in a real world. And I feel like a lot of the art of a cinematographer is taking reality and showing it in a different way. And Hugo is almost nothing in that movie is real. Yeah. And so many, there's so many shots of like the camera flying really fast into an out of buildings. But like, well, that's the, Sasha and Cohn is really good in that movie. Like, I would have rather seen him be nominated for Best Sporting Actor for Hugo than like Joni Hill for Moneyball. You know, you hate Joni Hill.
Starting point is 00:24:28 I don't hate him. I just don't like him. Okay. Fair enough. He's all right, I guess. I mean, I think that's a fair statement. Yeah. What did I hate Joni Hill? No, no, no, that, uh, that Sushbury and Cohen deserved a nomination. I feel like he, he brought a lot out of what could have been a very flat character or very one dimensional character and like his especially considering Borat and Bruno like his acting in Hugo is so expertly like modulated and like he's still on a very eccentric over the top character, but it's a believable human version of him. Yeah, he's and he doesn't rely on like catchphrases, you know,
Starting point is 00:25:06 the kind of crutches he has in. No, I think he's fantastic in that. I think he's great in Sweeney Todd. Like, if I had my brothers, yeah, I find my way. That's my nickname for the movie. Brothers. S'mothers, brothers. If I had in my Elliot's nickname for the movie, brothers,
Starting point is 00:25:23 I would see a thosha bear in Conan, those sort of Peter Sellers supporting roles, movies. Right, so that you could watch a ton of movies 30 years from now, they're not very good, but Peter Sellers is in them. Man, I tried to watch the pink, speaking of Christopher Plummer, I tried to watch the pink Panther movie that he's in. That's a good one. Which is one of the good ones.
Starting point is 00:25:44 Yeah, that's the third one. That's a good one. And I still like, I think it's the third one. It's like 15 minutes before Peter Seller shows up at the beginning of the movie. And then just any scene that he is not in is death. Like I'm not still. Death, but it's not.
Starting point is 00:25:58 He's the only thing that holds it together. The movie is so slow. Like that's the weird thing about like, not just that movie, but I feel like a lot of comedies of that era. It's just like, we're gonna have one comedic element of that. And then they're just gonna be like,
Starting point is 00:26:11 just gonna be like a regular movie, but around it, but we're not gonna make that movie as good because this is a comedy. So you're just gonna have to wait for that one funny guy to show up again. That was basically 60s comedies, yeah. But Peter Sellers made a lot of movies
Starting point is 00:26:23 like Smallest Show on Earth and Heaven's Above or whatever it's called where it's like you're watching you're like, why is this even a movie? Like what? Like I'm glad Peter Sellers was getting a paycheck and I like this character he's playing but like, yeah, there's no movie here. There's like nothing going on. Well, well, best to go back to best supporting actor. I was a category that there was a fair amount of contention because both Albert Brooks was not nominated. He should have been nominated. And I would argue I really like Pat Noswald's performance and young adult.
Starting point is 00:26:54 He was good in that too. Those were two widely. How do you feel about those snubs? I mean, oh, I was gonna talk. You can talk, dude. Well, we got nominated. We got Nick Nalti. Christopher Plumber.
Starting point is 00:27:10 Christopher Plumber. Jonas Hill. Brad Pitt. No, that was for best actor. I thought he got nominated for best sporting for Tree of Life. Did he? Maybe.
Starting point is 00:27:20 Maybe. I know that what's his face, Mike's fan side of that. Mike's fan side of that. Oh yeah, I, I have been nominated I can say with authority without having seen them we I have seen it and he is the best thing in the movie What's it? But he was nominated for extremely loud and incredibly crappy. Oh, yeah, yeah, and He is the best thing in that movie, but did I feel like that was a career nomination. Like Max on side of a strange brew. For best.
Starting point is 00:27:46 Yeah, I think he did. Best, uh, villain. Oh, you know what? He won, he won best, he won best actor for needful things. That's what it was. You're thinking of melt, you're thinking of melt blanks, uh, nomination for strange brew for, uh, their unseen father. But he was, he, I think that was, I feel, a career nomination. He's in his 80s. He is one
Starting point is 00:28:08 of the kind of towering actors of world film from his work with Ingmar Bergman. So like, they were like, yeah, we'll throw him in. But he is the best acting in that movie. But that's probably because he's not in a lot of it. And most of the movie is dominated by irritating kid. Yeah. I mean, I, I think that they should have nominated the dog from the artist. I think that Albert Brooks, I would like to see them in there. Albert Brooks definitely should have been like, and I liked Pat Nausewalt's performance in young adult, but Albert Brooks's performance in drive. Again, like there's so much in that performance. And he doesn't, and he does it in a way that
Starting point is 00:28:44 always feels real the entire time. Yeah. Like he's the most, even being, not being the hero of the movie, he's the most real and like most sympathetic character in the whole movie, I feel like. Yes. And like, and he draws that out of it. Like it's not necessarily written that way.
Starting point is 00:28:58 It's written that way, but he draws a lot out of it. Any other gripes with the categories guys? Well, what are we talking about? Other not well, I mean, other nominees or other other snubs. Snubs or snubs or I don't want like it's such a boring. It is really such a boring. To be honest, I got to admit, I have not see I did not see that many of the, uh, the best picture nominees. I saw a fair number of them.
Starting point is 00:29:28 I, I didn't get around to see war horse because I don't like seeing animals in danger. That's why that's why you, you had to leave the rescuers down under in the middle of the film. Yeah, of course. And a ragnafobia, I'm like, where are they going to do to those spiders? All right. This is like a spider holocaust. Stuart still doesn't know if those rescuers ever got back Up above after being down under yeah, and five head goes west couldn't watch it Even anthropomorphic
Starting point is 00:30:03 So I didn't see that nor and guys I know you think that the artist is like that's right at my alley. I did't see that. And guys, I know you think that the artist is like, that's right at my alley. I did not see that. I know you love silent films. You love French movies. You're a huge fan of movies where James Cromwell plays a butler. These are all right. I did not have a lot of passion about like going to see a lot of these nominated films.
Starting point is 00:30:22 Like I still haven't seen the artist. I think I would probably enjoy the artist I think you'd enjoy the artist. But I get the impression that I would not love it. It's a pretty middle of the road movie a lot of ways. I liked it a lot, but it was not one of the movies that I saw it and then it stuck with me afterwards. Like, Tree of Life I Saw it really stuck with me. Midnight Paris really stuck with me.
Starting point is 00:30:40 Like, finally Abe stuck with me more than the artist did. Like there are some, and Hugo really stuck with me with me like the artist is not it is a fun movie And it's a really well-made movie, but it's not there's not a lot of things there like it's a very thin movie You know and it's a movie where I don't spoil things sure so it's a silent movie star They tell him you're gonna have to make sound films and he's like no I'm not gonna do it and then his life falls apart and the whole movie you're like It's almost it's almost like the movie forgets that the main character could at any point decide
Starting point is 00:31:10 to just change his career a little bit, and everything would be fine, like. Hey, the problem's rough, his own making. He makes them himself. Like in the movie Hugo, where the problem is that everyone's just... It makes like a robot or something. We're talking about each other.
Starting point is 00:31:26 And they're just grumping around and never asking anyone for help. Yeah, you're right. That was the problem in Hugo, yeah. And my wife Hugo, I just didn't like it with myself. I liked it a lot. I mean, but I didn't like the story in Hugo so much as I liked the what Martin Spursezi,
Starting point is 00:31:42 what the emotion he put into it from himself, you know, and like the scenes where okay, well kind of like the story is like, oh he goes and does this and he finds out this thing and whatever, but you could tell that the guy who is making the movie really identified with this character and that when he starts learning about the history of silent film that like the people making this movie are really excited like Like it's one of those movies where you cut off the first hour of Hugo. I would like it. If I watch the second hour, I'd be like, Oh, it's pretty good. But it's a movie where like, but then you'd have no Jude lawn and, uh, Ray Winston would only be a dead body. You're talking about what AI? No, Hugo. Hugo?
Starting point is 00:32:21 Oh, yeah, that's right. I totally forgot, Jude Lawn Ray Winston were in it. Yeah, they're both in it. In the very beginning. Well, do laws in flashbacks. Yeah. Yeah. Same with Ray Winston, except is dead body. That's right. His or flashbacks too. But when they show it's the kind of movie where when he's learning about old silent film, they show you footage from real old silent films.
Starting point is 00:32:41 And they don't have like, they don't put like a silent film filter on footage of like Ben Kingsley walking around. Do you agree on it? I agree on it. I agree on it. It's like, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's like, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's reviews with the characters from the film. And instead of using actual footage of these people, they put Oliver Platte in his characters makeup to review his view.
Starting point is 00:33:10 Yeah, and that was actual footage. And that was ridiculous. Yeah. I didn't see, like there was no point to that. But you liked what they did with Hugo. Well, they used the real footage. Yeah. Was it in 3D? I didn't see it in 3D. It was and the real old footage. Yeah. Was it 3D?
Starting point is 00:33:27 I didn't see it in 3D. It was and it didn't need to be. That's the thing is I was. I mean like the old timey stuff was like the sound. And stuff. It was more like the image came out at you, but it wasn't like, well, we'll take this old Buster Keaton movie when we came to 3D. It was more like as if the you were watching a TV and the TV screen was moving towards
Starting point is 00:33:46 you. Like the silent films were not made to read. Like this, like in Poltergeist or something or a little bit. I know this is a really important conversation, a hash-out. Okay, what's up? I think we've put the Oscars to bed. Okay, well we've already put our listeners to bed. I think we'll move on our Hugo cast to the, uh, are we going to move on to the more important awards to the flop Academy flop flop flop. So four thumbs up and a boner for the Oscar. Right? Yes. Yeah, was it a good bad Oscars, a bad bad Oscars or an Osciers you kind of like the little bit stroke party guys
Starting point is 00:34:28 Don't indicate that it was at least fun for one person And possibly a cat so Dan depending on how you do it. Yeah, so we're gonna give out our the the floppies Covented award. It's a sheve like a golden disc Golden disc. He like a floppy disc. Okay. You're older than me, Dan. You know the floppy disc is. Sure. So we all we all we all have a few here to give out. So why don't I start off?
Starting point is 00:34:56 Okay. Okay. Why don't you start off? I'm going to give out first, first award. Goes to actor that sounds most like an auto part. And that goes to Cam Gajandit, who also received the coveted Shredded Like Lettuce Award and the Josh Hartinent Memorial Award for most irritating squint. So a great year for Cam.
Starting point is 00:35:19 Cam really, you really roll through this year. Strong year for Cam Gajandit. Gajand. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. g. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. G. g. G., we in rotate through. Sure. My categorization was a little different. I had best audience sympathy role reversal. Went to Green Lantern for making an audience of nerds root for a handsome jock who was about to beat up a brainiac in a wheelchair. OK.
Starting point is 00:36:01 So best audience sympathy role reversal. Green Lantern. And now being nerds, we really identified with that, right? I really identified with the horrific villain who's in wheelchair with the big lumpy head with the gross mustache and the lumpy head was lumpy head. What a great lumpy head. I knew you'd be behind this. Lumpy head is terrorizing the city. We're as green lantern. Lumpy head is on a red page. The my first award is for most erotic fully clothed sexual performance. Okay. Goes to of course Nicholas Cage in Drive Angry. Yeah, it's interesting because Nicholas Cage won for my word for angriest driving for driving
Starting point is 00:36:48 Well, I mean as long as we're giving the Nicholas Cage Plot it out. It's not the only one I have All right, well maybe I'll save it then. Oh, we know you can go I'm gonna give the Cajiest Cage award to Trespass Cage Which for me beat out source of the previous cage drive angry cage in season of the witch cage. I gave best hair to Nicholas Cage for all of them. What kind of an award is that? It's a golden disc right now. Best hair. It's a golden disc but it has a wig on it. It has a hideous wig on it. So Nicholas Cage for all of them.
Starting point is 00:37:34 The my next award is for most believable English accent in a totally terrible movie is a double award to both Danny McBride and James Franco in your highness not even a flop as a movie that was from this last year and was I think drawn for the least fun I had watching a movie all year long. Wow, what was the other one? The other one was wait, let me, let me, let me pause my notes. Oh, shit, I totally forgot to write it down. So your highness is the winner for least fun you had in a movie. Okay. Well, that was that one. My actually, I'll give that an award just now for movie that was most sold on the presence of a butt in it. Now no one's one that awards since entrapment.
Starting point is 00:38:09 Not even a totally nude butt just a little. Well entrapment wanted with a butt that was through a pair of pants. I think they tried to do that with the Scottish movie. The Bushburg-Limpy. Yeah, Macbeth. You're not supposed to say. Oh, I'm doing that. Yeah. Yeah, that's a great, great, but I'll get on board with that one. Uh, officially the assies aren't announced until next week. So let's stick with the Flopfies.
Starting point is 00:38:34 So this is the Golden Civil Ward from movie I've most completely forgotten that we watched. And that goes to beastly Which may just be because that was the blooper episode But still almost completely erased from my mind Eternal sunshine style. Yeah, beastly that first thing I thought you said beastly like this is a beastly I'd given that award to skyline. Oh Right we watch skyline I'd given that award to Skyline. Oh right. We watched Skyline. Okay. I'm gonna give it to Skyline also. I kind of forgot that existed Here's a serious one
Starting point is 00:39:13 For best actor I give it to Gary Oldman Not for tinker Taylor's soldier spy although he's very good in that But for the moment in red riding hood when Lucas haze asked if he can touch Gary Oldman sword and Gary Oldman goes no. As if he's barely thinking about it and he's already leaving the conversation. No. Is there real pro? He is.
Starting point is 00:39:39 That was a beautiful moment in a movie otherwise terribly boring except for the existence of a giant cast iron elephants that people were burned to death in. Hey guys, I want to I want to call them things down a little bit. Let's take it. Go back to something that we taped earlier in the day. Okay. This is for the lifetime achievement award for the longest movie we ever watched for the
Starting point is 00:39:58 flop house. And that goes to the happiest millionaire. Yeah. Well earned. Well earned. It was very long. Do, I think, is the term. It was due for that award. I have here the Paul Walker Award for being a black hole of charisma.
Starting point is 00:40:14 And that goes for Alex Petterfer, star of I'm number four and beastly. He is, yeah, he has nothing at all to offer a film. He has no charisma, no star power. What about abs? He's got, he's shredded like lettuce, that's true. He was not as real as Kim Gijande. Not as good at much as Kamjaga, Jha, Jha.
Starting point is 00:40:35 Do you want me to go again? Okay, for best twists, it's trespass. Oh wait, no, I read that wrong, sorry. The category is most twists, not best twists, merely most most because there are eight or nine twists in that movie. They run, they run, yeah, the twists run the gamut from it turns out we have no money to no, we actually do have a lot of money to we want to take your daughter's kidney to we don't want the kidney just the money. And I didn't get into the affair that Nicole Kidman didn't have. Yeah. So the last award that I'm going to give out guys goes, goes to the the Flapphouse movie this year that had the least limits, which is the roommate. Wow, a huge upset.
Starting point is 00:41:26 Bradley Cooper is steamed. He is so unhappy. He expertly awarded. I think he was about out of his chair already. And then Billy Zane just pushed him down and he got up to accept the award. And while he's up there, while he's up there, he can accept another award, best hats. The roommate special achievement in hats this year. So this award was given out actually earlier at our technical flop house awards hosted by Amanda Bines.
Starting point is 00:41:58 This is the What If Penny Meta dinosaur award for Strangest premise and that goes to Gooby. any meta dinosaur award for Strangest premise. And that goes to Gooby. Where Robbie Coltrane was a giant living teddy bear, it's the movie that makes you believe in magic and then makes you wish you didn't. Oh, I wish I'd seen that one, missed it. This is a very contentious category every year. It's gonna be a lot of buzz on the blogs afterwards,
Starting point is 00:42:20 but whether we chose the right one, best commercial for TGI Fridays disguised as a movie. And the winner is Zookeeper. Zookeeper. This is my final award. I don't know, you actually have a couple more left. I have a couple, but I don't have to announce them all. This is my final award.
Starting point is 00:42:39 The Cold Shower Award goes to Sucker Punch for making me feel guilty about every erection I've ever had. Sure. You weren't already guilty about all those erections. Look, I wasn't raised with a tradition of guilt like you. No, guilt. It's called guilt. Chocolate coins that you get at Hanukkah. Let's see. I have a special award best supporting actor. I'm going to give to Eric Zuckerman for my soul to take. Great guy. So what about Flau Paz co-hosts? Flau Paz co-hosts. Eric Zuckerman.
Starting point is 00:43:08 Current Flau Paz friend. Eric Zuckerman, great work in your four or five minutes of screen time. Nothing but nice things to say. Have I? Be-killer didn't call him bitch at any point though, right? No, unfortunately. That's your man. And of course.
Starting point is 00:43:21 Because that's something you'd want on your tombstone. Pepparoni and extra cheese and Bouch And of course this is the big award the big one best picture of the year Okay, and again a lot of lobbying a lot of advertising a lot of things I think it's going to the artist the artist is an early favorite. Oh, no opening the envelope Who saw this coming best picture goes to tangango and Cash for the 22nd year running. Tango and Cash has one best picture. Well congratulations to Tango, congratulations to Cash and let's not forget the late Jack
Starting point is 00:43:56 palants. Look the the the freak from the castle has a brave face on. He was really expecting to make it. I can't see the invisible maniac, but I assume he's crying. Head of the family, I can really see his expression. Huge. A lot of disappointment. Oh, but Tanglen Cash couldn't be happier. Look at the way they are there. High fived, and now the picture is taking all that. And it's in the newspaper. And they cleared. They've been cleared of all charges by winning this award. So, uh, so we, and we're having a lot of fun, but uh, finally, let's end that. Yeah, let's wrap that up. It's move on to letters from listeners. Fluff house letters. Letters for the flop house. And award for best song. Letters, letters, letters, letters. Flophouse, letters.
Starting point is 00:44:53 Okay, so this email is titled Floptacular Predictions. Oh, okay. It's from Dan Lasting with Hell. It says, just a little bit. To last year's flop-tacular episode I've been thinking who you would who would win this year's lifetime achievement award for things paction twos I would like to see tennis balls in the award I'd like to see tennis balls win the award for things pack in threes. I know over the last decade or so
Starting point is 00:45:21 They have changed to four packs and some instances, but over the course of history I've always enjoyed the packaging. Yeah, but you're supposed to give the award for this year's work Great. Not for lifetime achievement. Nice cap fantastic smell after the can is open thing. Does he not know what this podcast is about? He may think it's a tennis cast. Yeah, has he confused us for the Pete San pres house? Isn't that the term for when they packaged to like three-penpers house. Isn't that the term for when they packaged two older porno magazines and then sneak a third one with the cover ripped off in there?
Starting point is 00:45:50 Okay. I've noticed not a way that they did that. One that's like something you would not get. Yeah, I liked it. Like pregnant babes and stuff like that. Grannies and whatnot. Grannies and whatnot. You know what, I think, at first I thought it was that
Starting point is 00:46:03 there weren't a lot of granny fetishes out there, but not these that we have whatnot in the title of our porn magazine. People just don't know what to expect. Well, you don't know what the title is because the cover's been ripped off. Well, jugs and et cetera has been doing really good. Let cetera means more of the same. Some people know they're getting more jugs, but what not? That could mean anything.
Starting point is 00:46:22 It could be anything. It's a big question mark. It's like if you put it on a horn-o- mean anything. It's a big question mark. It's like if you put it in a learn-of-movie, the title was just question mark. You wouldn't pick that up. You don't know what you're entering into. There could be anything between those covers.
Starting point is 00:46:34 If there's anything, I, there, there requires a lot of tools. There's a lot of tools in the pornographic industries that people have very specific fetishes, things they're in do. And they do not want to be surprised. I don't want to be looking for a picture of an anthropomorphic dolphin having sex with an anthropomorphic fox. Turn the page. There's a granny there. I don't want to grab it.
Starting point is 00:46:53 Totally human shot very photorealistically. I mean, this is why I did anthropomorphic. This is why our twin experiments porn grand grab bag huge failure and barely legal and miscellaneous huge failure. Well, yeah, but that was a way we could use up the pictures that didn't fit in the other magazines. Again, failure. People aren't interested in that. They want to know what they're getting. Here's two words that don't go together.
Starting point is 00:47:19 Okay. Mastervation and surprise. You don't want to be surprised when you're masturbating. Okay. About to climax and surprise. You don't want to be surprised when you're masturbating, okay? About to climax. And shock. Alright, well, that's why our other magazine, hey, look at this. People don't even know what tone it was in. Hey, look at this was our second worst selling magazine after question mark.
Starting point is 00:47:41 Yeah, it could be, hey, look at this. It will disgust you. Yeah. We have a lot of these conversations. All of a cataloged and properly. Next to the Rangers Rick and whatnot. And then we get a lot of angry letters from a lot of angry parents that thought they were buying nature theme pornography. Rangers Rick.
Starting point is 00:48:00 This email is titled, that Minnesota guys offer is no good. This is a referring back to a while ago. To Jesse Ventura. As a recent flop convert, I've been working my way through your old episodes. When you watched Delgo, you got an email from a listener in Minnesota who offered to let you watch movies at his house. Oh, yeah. His house? I can do better than that.
Starting point is 00:48:20 I can offer you an entire theater with seats and paying customers, hopefully. I'm a projectionist at the Trilon Microsenema here in Minneapolis, where a 50-seat non-profit theater that shows a combination of retrospectives and new independent films. We're also a host of such series as Trash Film DeBotry. That sounds like something you'd like to am. Yes. And the defenders in which one person picks a critically unloved film and defends it before
Starting point is 00:48:47 an audience. It's like Elliot. Hey, what a minute. How about it, flappers? Care to come to Minnesota into a live show. I'll cover the theater. You keep these sure to be a lucrative box office to sweeten the deal. I've come up with attractions suited to each of your personalities.
Starting point is 00:49:01 Stewart, there's a brewery. Just two blocks from the theater. A gym brewery. They make gym brewers there. Ellie, like a Fred house basically. Yeah, kind of. Ellie, there's a Popeye nearby. Interesting. Minnesota has a lot of words that sound like other words. Dan, Minnesota's home to racist homophobic militia nut and Michelle Bachman. So you're sure to fit right in and lasting without well, I don't like that last part.
Starting point is 00:49:29 It's totally fits with your personality as according to what I said and what Stewart said in this podcast. Hooks for hands, right? Yeah. Does she have hooks for hands on things? You can't answer. Well, I think it sounds pretty good if he'll cover the cost of travel and lodging. Yeah, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that'siapolis at some point, very small city, very small city. As soon as I can convince you guys to go, I'm down, I'm ready. Okay. Well, you should hop in our old double side car or motorcycle.
Starting point is 00:50:12 So who drives the motorcycle? I would think Dan Woody's kind of in charge. Yeah, probably. I'm gonna be way too drunk to be driving a motorcycle. Well, he's passed out in the side car and I'm with the man. You know, it's story of the side car. The next email speaks to that very issue. So, well, let's,
Starting point is 00:50:27 let's say to him, make it worth our while and we'll go to your 50 seat Minneapolis theater. Yeah. And by making worth a while, I mean, pay for our plane tickets. Maybe we'll pay for it with the box office from all those fans that come out. Yeah. Well, how much we're going to have to charge for if it's a 50 seat theater. Million dollars. I don't know. I don't know. I'm not very good at math. I don't know math. That's why I got into comedy writing. Um, the glue of the flop house is the next email. Hmm. Must be that day. Of the flop house. Dear flop of hallacks. For years, you guys have been
Starting point is 00:51:01 pushing the lie that Dan is the Leonardo of the group, where he is the one who makes sure the discussion stays on topic and keeps everything organized. Yet who is the one who always makes a segue back into the film during a classic flop house tangent? Who says, right, when a joke hit us off, so the discussion can move to a different topic? Who went gone, the podcast meanders are a bit more than usual. That's right. The one and only Stewart Wellington. Louer Wellington. Maybe it's time. The good psychops over here. Maybe it's time Dan takes the place as the wacky friend and Stewart takes his rightful place in the serious leader of the group. If only for one episode
Starting point is 00:51:40 like Freaky Friday or vice versa, at least walking watch vice versa. No, or like father like son or a teenager. At least walking around the other one shoes might stop their constant off podcast fighting. Remember the more words of Shakespeare to thine own self be true, sincerely Brian last name with hope. So that would make you the Cyclops Stewart Dan is certainly not the Wolverine. So what is he like the night crawler? Yeah, I mean, with a beast?
Starting point is 00:52:08 Yeah, I think I can be the beast. Yeah, a beast is pretty cool. Beast is not really cool, but you know, he'll pass. Okay, and I assume I'm like banshee. You're something, but some spot, and like some, your Cyclock.
Starting point is 00:52:22 Cyclock, so the guy was a clock instead of a knife. How do you press that? Well, a siloc. Yeah, I'm so I'm the sexy Asian ninja with an English accent. Yeah, that's pretty cool. That's pretty cool. Jealous.
Starting point is 00:52:36 It does mean I have a lot more wedgies than most other superheroes. Yeah, well, what Brian last name without, I disagree with you, sir. I can't handle that responsibility. Maybe we should try it sometime though. You never know. You shouldn't doubt yourself.
Starting point is 00:52:51 Okay. So next time I'll bring all the podcasting equipment, which I'm guessing is, I don't like a tape recorder or something. I don't. And I'll order it in my later with my house. Yeah. You'll just meander in probably 10 minutes late and then go into a long spiel
Starting point is 00:53:09 that you've been rehearsing on the whole walkover. That sometimes goes over and sometimes doesn't make that much sense. Yeah, of course. Then you'll finish your own bit by asking if it was a bit. It's gonna be tough. But I think you can handle it. This last one is actually a very touching story. So get ready to touch her.
Starting point is 00:53:32 There's been a lot of talk about masturbating on the show tonight. We need a movie to distract us from masturbating. This one. Some movies distract you the other way. Wait, what? Some movies make you do that. What are you talking about? Like they force you to do it.
Starting point is 00:53:45 Yeah, no choice. Yeah. Well, like a, like a, like a movie that makes you masturbate. Yeah. That's cool. A rain. Yeah, you're watching one of those movies like Peter Pan where they're like, Tinkerbell's dying.
Starting point is 00:53:58 Only masturbating will bring her back to life. Come on, everybody in the audience. Well, like one of those horror movies where you watch it and it makes you, you like it, makes it kill yourself. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Like Fern Gully, yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:54:09 So this is, second Fern Gully reference of the night. Thank you and you're welcome. A tale of Flop House romance. Well, hello. First. This is not another slash fiction story. No, that's what I was expecting. First.
Starting point is 00:54:22 So go on. I cannot hear another story about me licking Popeye's grease off of either of you ever again. I just wanted to thank you for putting out the podcast. Because you're desensitized at this point. It's like you desensitized the tip of your penis and can't get out.
Starting point is 00:54:36 Yeah, a lot of what is there just read this letter. Thank you for putting out the podcast, my favorite podcast, et cetera. Thank you very much. Sorry for this episode. A few weeks ago, I was listening to the Conan episode of the podcast while scanning some of the things in the library.
Starting point is 00:54:55 A mindless task made bearable only by podcasts. Although I had listened to this episode two times before, I still find myself nearly doubled over in laughter by the time that Elid as Connery finished off the updated Zardaz ad with, you're the Zardaz now, doll. However, notice the end of Throne is fucking Connery. Yeah, I gotta show up.
Starting point is 00:55:16 I'm like, most of my pain's coming up soon too. However, I'm like most times when I've been in a similar situation, the people around me either ignore my laughter or stare at me like I'm insane. This time I was tapped on the shoulder. I turned around to see a beautiful girl, and instead of asking if I would stop hogging the scanner, she asked what was so funny. Labyrinth-asset, I told her it was a bad movie podcast that was making fun of Zardos.
Starting point is 00:55:41 And this weird thing she screamed around LA. To my further surprise, she asked me if she could hear it. And since I'm an average flop listener and she was gorgeous, I act we asked immediately and watched she began laughing at Elliot's horrible impersonation and description of what actually happens in Sardovs. Horrible. After she handed my- I studied with Sean Connery for years. After she handed my IAPod back to me me we began talking about other bad movies we both liked
Starting point is 00:56:06 and both realized that we didn't have any friends that wanted to go to a midnight showing of the room later that week not wanting to let this opportunity get away from me. I asked her out for dinner and the room and I'm happy to report that we've been on a number of dates since then during which I've gotten her to become a new subscriber to your podcast So I just wanted to say Thank you for enabling a chance to meet my new girlfriend and you're welcome for swelling your subscriber rules by one Keep on flopping in the free world Mike last name with held PS is there any chance for a live flop house of vision Washington DC I know Elliott considers our city a boring I saw her. I didn't say that. I guess so. It is boring, but I like the public statuary, but our population is about 83% students who love bad movies. I saw I, you
Starting point is 00:56:54 know, last one, when I went to DC recently, I was struck by how lovely or I actually like a lot of the things and maybe it's just that invasion showed the the more boring parts of the city, like the malls and things are not malls but you know the office building the malls of America that was a touching story that was really great. I mean I'm sure they're broken up by now. Oh that's terrible Dan thanks thanks for nothing. Well that's I'm very glad that we could help in some way to get this young flop house listener uh, some affection. Mm hmm.
Starting point is 00:57:26 You like a modern day C Renault? Yeah. A modern day C Renault. Basically, what? Some day we'll work up to B Renault or A Renault. I mean, if we can, you know, if we can do it, yes, D Martin basically. Basically.
Starting point is 00:57:37 We can get one nerd laid out there. And it's all been worth it. In the past few years of doing this podcast are worth it. And thanks for giving us another listener. And I feel like a live event in DC is eminently more doable than Minneapolis. Yeah. Because we could just take a train down there. I agree.
Starting point is 00:57:54 And that's how they make honey. And that's how they make honey. Oh, no kidding. Yeah. So we should now go on to bees, really? Yeah, it's made with bees. It's all bees and bees wax. This is a journey. You're going to cut out.
Starting point is 00:58:21 You're not going to play on the air, because the whole point was I stopped the tape to save it. But you're explaining to cut out. If I'm going to play on the air because the whole point was I stopped the tape to save it. But you're explaining it now. Well, we can pick up from where we left off. I think we could have Washington, D.C. screening would be eminently doable. If someone in Washington, D.C. wants to do some of the legwork and figure out where that could be done, then that would be a cool thing to do. And if this relationship survives a little longer, too, I'd love to hear it.
Starting point is 00:58:50 Yeah. Wait, you love to hear the relationship? No, I just, I want to make sure that you're sick. So you heard him, you heard him flop house fans get, make a tape of you having sex and send to pervazoid number one, Dan McCoy. Mr. And his girlfriend's butt looks nice. McCoy. Wife, your wife's butt looks nice. McCoy.
Starting point is 00:59:05 Your wife's butt looks nice. I was going through our all. It didn't like his girlfriend's butt. That's what you're saying. Yeah, what's wrong with his girlfriend's butt, Dan? Oh God. I just want my cynicism to not be born out. I was going through the previous relationship.
Starting point is 00:59:18 I was going through the previous year's fluff has episodes in preparation for this. And I went back and listened to the controversy, a controversy over the you asking if that was the guy's wife in the video. Like people want to know people named Dan McCoy who are pervs want to know. You want a person taking that away from me. You're a you're you dehumanizing me. I only in that you're a pervazoid.
Starting point is 00:59:43 A robot sideboard designed to be a pervazoid. Second, he's a three-dimensional pervazoid of being a human all you. Just because you're uncomfortable with it doesn't mean that it's not a valid. I'm totally comfortable with it. Yeah. So sending that tape. Yeah, I don't like Popeye's grease off anybody's hands. But yeah, we hope you're still together and keep on rocking in DC.
Starting point is 01:00:02 Okay. So this is the part part we normally make recommendations, but because this is sort of a end of the year retrospective, I thought we were gonna maybe... The same place everyone does their end of the year retrospectives in February, on leap day. On leap day. It's not miles off.
Starting point is 01:00:17 I mean, you know, some people do it on January after the year's actually over, rather than trying to jump the gun and doing December like everyone else. Wow, he really thought about this, really makes you mad. But no, I just like, you know, we should talk about a couple movies maybe from the last year that we enjoyed. And we don't need to do maybe full recommendations, we can just rattle off a couple. Yeah, sure, yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:41 But Elliot, why don't you go? Why don't you go? Why don't you go there reminds me of a movie. I really enjoyed this year. What movie called Hugo you Dan I'm just gonna go off. I actually didn't see I saw a lot fewer new movies this year than I usually do And I think just because it was a busy year and there wasn't a lot in the theaters that was like really Driving me to go see it right away. So I feel like I don't have a lot at retro recommends that are not already well known.
Starting point is 01:01:12 Like I wish there was some like indie movie or foreign movie I saw that really was a really amazing and I want to tell everyone about it but I didn't. Speaking of driving me to the theaters to see stuff, here's another movie I like this here. Drive. Okay. It's a really good segue. So much better than one I got prepared. Well, let's hear it Stewart.
Starting point is 01:01:30 Okay. Well, yeah, I have a pretty short list because I think I'm in the same boat as Elade. I just didn't get out. Yeah. The theaters was off. I was going through my list. I keep a list every year of the movies I've seen that year. And I saw way more movies for the flop house than I did like in the theaters. Yeah, movies I wanted to see, you know. Um, well, the, there, there was two big budget, uh, big budget movies that I thought, uh, were really good at what they were trying to do. And that was, uh, Transformers 3 girl with a dragon tattoo. Mm-hmm. And, uh, mission impossible ghost protocol, which in all way, kind of, they kind of both remind me of each other.
Starting point is 01:02:05 Like they were both very, very good at being either an action movie or a thriller, and I think all the elements kind of combined in all those movies. Like the sound was great, the direction was great, and I think in both cases it was primarily due to like a great director. And Mission Impossible had a good script.
Starting point is 01:02:22 Like it was a pretty tight, quick moving script. Yeah, I mean, there's a couple tight quick moving script. Yeah, I mean There's a couple laggy parts, but yeah, I agree I'm just gonna quickly run down like several that I'm speaking of running down the run down Was Sean Williams got Sean Williams got and who is it the rock? Yeah, didn't even come out this past year Speaking between the rock Johnson journey to the mysterious. Okay, I'm just gonna run down. I have more on here, but you know what, I'm just gonna run down a few that either I feel we're under scene or slightly under appreciated. And in that category, I would put her list. I would put win-win, super-ate, attack the block,
Starting point is 01:03:07 the frightenate remake I enjoyed, red state, and the adventures of 1010. You should have said 1010. 1010? What is that like a taunt on? I actually said it correctly. I mean, that was not what people were making fun of me for. 1010, like 1010.
Starting point is 01:03:24 A 1010, the guy in Daniel. No, you're scared during dream house. Actually, the eye sound that I'm making. But I you should have said win, win, 1010 and then come up with another movie that rhymes with those. Yeah. I forgot that I saw Attack the Block this year, actually, and I really liked that a lot. Uh, but uh, I would the other one.
Starting point is 01:03:43 I mean, basically the movies that stuck with me, aside from Tech the Block, I saw this year where they were just like all big movies. Hugo Drive, Trial Life, RISE the Planet of the Apes, and Midnight in Paris, which I did not expect to really stick in my mind. Like watching it, it seemed like it was kind of like a lark. Like, all right, that was fun, but it really like, like I really felt it for a long time after I saw it. In a way, I hadn't expected from a Woody Allen moving a long time. Did you, did you, did you list young adult?
Starting point is 01:04:12 Well, that, you know, I didn't read everything that I had written down here originally, because I thought I would stick to things that were under scene or under appreciated, but I will say that I liked the things that Elliot said. I also enjoyed I appreciate it, but I will say that I liked the things that Elliott said. I also enjoyed a tan, tan, Thor, uh, the descendants of the Muppets young adults. And I agree with you on Girl of the Dragon Tattoo. I liked some of those, but like, Thor was like, okay, well, but Thor, I think was to me, like, of the, I know that you really liked the X movie. Yeah, I like to.
Starting point is 01:04:42 Thank you. First class, the most. I think I think of the, a little fucking turn of the Super Air movies that I saw this year, I enjoyed Thor the most. Yeah, I would, I would probably say the movie that you guys enlist unsurprisingly is a. What, Bucky Larson?
Starting point is 01:05:00 No. I think probably for a lower budget movie, my favorite movie of the year, would probably go to Black Death with Sean Bain. Well, I haven't seen that one. Which is manages to be both grim and interesting at the same time, whereas too many movies like The Seasons of the Witch
Starting point is 01:05:21 and whatnot are very grim and humorless and just completely lose your interest, whereas Black Death for whatever reason. Probably in part because Sean Bean was great, and it just kept me watching. Good actor, good bean. Yeah, you know. Top quality bean. I think for me, there's a lot of the movies that I like the free to Pento Bean and Rise of the Planet of the Eighth. Really? free to Pento bean and Residant planet eight
Starting point is 01:05:46 Really because she was kind of not necessary at any point in that movie Yeah, if anyone had the word Pento and the Really the only problem I had with Residant of the apes was that the end of circus bean The human being the circus peanut you mean the human being the circus peanut you mean. Oh man. Well, it should do have fun here. No, we certainly do the listeners don't but the only problem I have with the rise of the planet of the age was that neighbor that and that and that guy just like you stabbed people in the chest with his finger. His whole purpose was just to get mad at people and eventually spread the disease that destroyed the world spoiler alert
Starting point is 01:06:25 But there's the part where the scientist who works with James Franco who has come down with his disease Where like blood is pouring down his face is banging on the door trying to get James Franco's attention and the neighbor walks over He's like, hey, what are you doing here? Hey, I'm talking get out of here. And it's like at a certain point You really can't complain about someone knocking on the door of your neighbor's house Like at that they just needed him to come into contact with that guy so badly so they're like well I guess his character just got to be totally asshole to everybody the thing about a neighbor character in a movie is their main job should be to undress in front of open windows I think Dan can agree with me on this Body double double is telling me anything. That's what that's what it's telling me. But the movies that that struck me this year, a lot of them were movies that either were
Starting point is 01:07:08 people working in in relatively new people working in a medium they weren't used to like Brad Bird working in live action. But also things like movies that just kind of felt personal to people making them. Trial life felt that way, Hugo felt that way, Midnight Paris felt that way to me. Like, as opposed to movies that were just kind of by the numbers or felt like they could have been made by anybody. Yeah, I agree with that. Well guys, another year, many years, Cal and GOM. We're another year older. Yeah, closer to death.
Starting point is 01:07:41 I got to do a quick plug before we wrap up. And I have a plug too. March 8th, you're going to have to death. I got to do I got to do a quick plug before you share and I have a plug to March 8th. You're gonna have to edit this episode down. If you guys will listen to this before March 8th in Brooklyn, New York, Charlene's Bar 353 Flatfish Avenue. We have a Purim party to all you non-Jews. That's a costume party. Come on down. You don't have to be in a costume, but you should be. There's gonna be an acoustic metal band playing a original song for Purim, there's gonna be Ham Natasha and Cookies and all kinds of stuff. And Raffles and Cool Prizes, and possibly the three of us.
Starting point is 01:08:13 At least me. Almost definitely, I should be there. And my film screening series, closely watched films, is coming to a close. They'll be, by the time this episode goes up, there'll be one screening left, which will be the first Thursday in April. I'm going to be showing the movie The Good Fairy, which was when the movie's press and surges wrote before we started directing movies. It's a very funny movie and just kind of like a light, very, you know, graceful kind of
Starting point is 01:08:41 comedy the way they used to do in the 30s. And I'll be joined by guest John Oliver of the daily show John Stewart and efforts will talk about Comedy and that movie and then I'll say farewell to my screening series for the foreseeable future So that's the first Thursday in April 7 30 p.m. 92. I try Becca, which is on 200 Hudson Street in Manhattan All right guys well Now all the awards have been given out all There remains to say is good night guys and good luck or nice good night. Okay, and good luck, right? No
Starting point is 01:09:16 Just good night. I've been steward Wellington. I've been damn a coy. I think I'm still really killing but I'm kind of tired Good night. Yeah, but talking into a microphone, I'm probably the least experienced. Oh, yeah, maybe. That's true. Just trying to make you were in that 80s hair metal band. Yeah. And of course course Dan, you know, and Motley crew, I've had to testifying so many trials. Elliot and Motley crew, they kicked me out, assholes.
Starting point is 01:09:52 Yeah, they said it's too hard to cover for them. Yeah, I was too much of a wild man. You had too much hepatitis. You're too much hepatitis.

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