The Flop House - The Flop House: Episode Seven - Mr. Brooks

Episode Date: December 7, 2007

In our first episode sans Simon, we welcome friend-of-the-show Jeanette Laird to the guest host seat, to discuss the Kevin Costner split-personality serial killer film Mr. Brooks.  Meanwhile, Stuart ...makes a movie pitch, Dan reveals an embarrassing secret about Charlie’s Angels, and Jeanette teaches us how to kill a man.0:00 – 0:36 Introduction and theme.0:37 – 2:50 Partial synopsis of Mr. Brooks, courtesy of Wikipedia.2:51 – 28:02 Something’s happening here and you don’t know what it is, do you, Mr. Brooks?28:03 – 31:16 Final judgments.31:17 – 36:55 The sad bastards recommend.36:56 – Podcasty business, goodbyes, theme, and outtakes.*A small apology for the audio quality of some of this episode.  I have no idea why my voice sounds so booming at times, while Stuart and Jeanette sound like they are in the next room, other than the obvious explanation that I am 40 feet tall.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 In this episode of the flop house, we discuss Mr. Brooks, the horrifying true-life tale of comedian Albert Brooks' serial killing adventures. What do you mean I can't say that? Slander. And now for a partial synopsis of Mr. Brooks' courtesy of Wikipedia. Earl Brooks, Kevin Costner, is an upstanding business owner and family man, but in his secret life, Earl is a serial killer, hounded by his gleefully sadistic alter ego, Marshall, William Hurt. While he is refrained from killing for the last two years,
Starting point is 00:00:55 Brooks feels the urge rising once again, and murders a couple in their home. Despite killing them while their curtains are open, Earl follows his meticulous motives operandi, destroying all clothing and cleaning up the crime scene. The next day, Earl attends his weekly meeting of alcoholics anonymous, where he vaguely reveals his addiction without elaborating on its nature. Soon afterwards, Earl's daughter Jane returns home, having abruptly dropped out of Stanford.
Starting point is 00:01:20 When pressed on her motives, Jane reveals that she's pregnant, but Earl fears his daughter is hiding a much worse secret. Even more worrisome is the appearance of Mr. Smith, Dane Cook, a peeping Tom who photographed Earl murdering the couple. Fully aware of Earl's thumbprint killer alter ego, Smith demands to accompany Earl on his next murder. As they troll for a victim, he becomes frustrated with Earl's particular preparations, and over the involvement of Portland Detective Tracy Atwood, Jimmy Moore, chief investigator of the Thumprin Killer Case, who
Starting point is 00:01:50 hounds Smith, suspecting he's hiding something. Tracy is distracted by personal problems, including a messy divorce from her sleazy ex-husband, and a violent serial killer that she put away who is escaped to kill her because of it. One day, Earl finds detectives outside his house only to realize they're interested in speaking with his daughter who left school following the murder of a student with a hatchet. Jane pleads innocence, but Earl realizes that his daughter may be afflicted with the same addiction that he has. To deflect suspicion, he travels to her college campus and replicates the hatchet murder, making it appear that the murders are the work of a serial killer.
Starting point is 00:02:24 At the same time, Earl and Marshall form a plan to address Mr. Smith's blackmail scheme. Earl re-evaluates his own life and decides that the best course of action for his family and friends is that he be murdered, a decision that infuriates Marshall. The plan involves taking Mr. Smith out on a promised thrill killing, which would give Smith the confidence to kill Earl and tie up loose ends. Is Mr. Brooks successful in his final plot? Let's join the others in the flop house. Hello everyone and welcome again to the flop house. Yeah. I'm Dan McCoy. I'm Stuart Wollady. I'm Jeanette Lair. That's right. We've got a one of our rotating guest hosts. This is like Lynn Rodgeriebert got the jaw cancer.
Starting point is 00:03:08 And yeah, they have other people filling for him. Boy, I thought I was a permanent member. Well, we're trying. We're trying, you know. I was gonna get paid. Yeah, I'm a really good lawyer. Also, I love like Mr. Brooks. Also Simon doesn't have jaw cancer.
Starting point is 00:03:21 I want to make that clear too. So, we could watch Mr. Brooks tonight. Yeah, Mr. Brooks. Kevin Costner. Breakthrough performance. What a naughty shirt. Well I have to say, this might be one of the better non baseball related Kevin Costner performances.
Starting point is 00:03:40 He did not bother me at any point. What about, what about, what about what about tank up? Yeah, well that's also a sports movie. So of the non sports movies of the movies were Kevin Costner plays a serial killer. About dancing with wolves. Dancing wolves? I don't think that's the name of the movie actually. Dancing with the wolves.
Starting point is 00:04:02 Maybe something like that though. I think you're pretty close. So we'll just give it to you. Yeah, so Mr. Brooks. Dan, initial thoughts. Going into Mr. Brooks, you've seen the trailers. You see a lot of Demi Moore and Kevin Kasser and these trailers.
Starting point is 00:04:17 Looks like a thriller. We just watched Perfect Stranger last week, so you're probably in the mood for a thriller. Initial perception is going into Mr. Brooks, what are your thoughts? Well, again, like Perfect Stranger, it seems like a movie that is pasted, sell by date with Dimmie Morn, Kevin Coste, and America's Sweethearts. Yeah, they are literally at the peak of their power. I don't know. When I like about this movie, when I first saw the trailer, I'm just like, ah, this is a shitty thriller. But then when we saw the movie, it was so much more, because there was so much crazy stuff going on in it. Crazy stuff, you say.
Starting point is 00:04:58 Well, I mean, how many plots were there in this film? There's a lot. Let's count them. There's the plot where Mr. Brooks played by Kevin Costner, doesn't want to kill anymore, and his imaginary friend William Hurd is urging him to kill, but he's trying not to kill. Okay. So he's struggling with that. Alright, and then there's Dan Cook, season kill someone, and wants to be a killer, wants to be sort of an apprentice killer, and so he won Mr. Brooks Brooks to school him in the way of murder. So there's that. Demi Moore is trying to track down Mr. Brooks. The fingerprint killer as they call him. But also she's
Starting point is 00:05:35 simultaneously trying to track down another killer who escaped and wants to kill her. And meanwhile she's going through a divorce. That's a separate plot. It's a whole separate plot and also turns out that is daughter. Mr. Brooks's daughter is a killer. So that's a whole mother plot. Five or something. I think if you actually look at all of the actual characters in this movie,
Starting point is 00:06:02 I think that roughly half of them are killers or killers to be. Right. I think that's kind of weird. Well it's an accurate portrait of life. Sure. Now, Dan, I am Bruce Evans, the writer, director of this film, and I've written this script, I've written this great script called Mr. Brooks. I go into a pitch meaning and you and Jeanette are going to be the studio execs. Okay. I come in and you're like, now what would you say? Okay, imagine you're these executives. What do you say to me?
Starting point is 00:06:34 I come in with a script. I hope you got something good, sir. I have no time. Well, it's kind of a very important person. I'll sum this excellent script up Mr. Brooks in a few short words. Uh, 17 words. I can't do that. Now, imagine this, a serial killer who doesn't like to be a serial killer,
Starting point is 00:06:55 and he loves his daughter, but she's a serial killer, and Demi Moore is in it as well. So wait, how many serial killers is that? Two, potentially three. Hmm. Are there any kind of like, I don't know, weird mental things going on with this guy? There's at least one imaginary, imaginary friend who approves of serial killing. Okay, good, because we can't, we can't understand mental illness unless it's illustrated for us by an imaginary character. Yes.
Starting point is 00:07:25 Two words of beautiful mind meets serial killer. I have a question for you. There's a few more than two words I can answer. OK. So his imaginary friend, this is a very key factor. When he looks through the rear view mirror, can he see him in the back seat? Can other characters see the imaginary?
Starting point is 00:07:43 Can Kevin Costner see him? I could write that in the script, yes. There's room for this, right? Because I mean, logically, there would be no reason why we'd have to adjust the mirror to see as a measure, a friend. But I think that for the viewer, the viewer at home, or I guess in the theater, since this is the first run movie production, that would be a... I actually have a mock-up of the poster that features him looking through the rearview mirror at
Starting point is 00:08:06 William hurt now I would Wait, see party got a poster. I was going to suggest William hurt in the role He actually co-wrote the script with me. We're talking lovable accidental tourist William hurt or sort of stern fatherly lost in space William hurt Sort of William hurt Do you know you've heard okay stern brotherly history of violence
Starting point is 00:08:34 alright we've heard is literally crazy i mean real life i think that we should i think it's actually imaginary well i say make the movie let's make it let's go take what's go. Okay. So Can I have some money and I have Kevin Costner on the line? That's right. You're a thing Absolutely was that dancing We had some good laughs now to, going into this movie, I thought there was going to be a lot more
Starting point is 00:09:08 demy more. Like maybe the trailers or the posters sold differently. You thought I'd be like a game of cat and mouse between demy more and Mr. Brooks. Yeah, I thought she'd be playing the role of a Sandra Bullock or an Ashley Judd almost. You know, like an Ashley Judd movie Yeah, like it okay my spider like an Ashley Judd slash more than Freeman vehicles. Yeah, like a paperback thriller Yeah, well, let's talk a little bit about Jimmy Moore To be more a tough as nails police woman
Starting point is 00:09:42 Also a millionaire she has sixty million dollars for some reason. To be able to find out why she had sixty millionaires. She inherited it from her dad I guess. Wait no she didn't inherit it because her dad was still alive so I guess it wasn't like a trust. Okay. A sixty million dollar trust. Yeah but she was still a cop and that's why Mr. Brooks liked her. He kind of liked her even though she was chasing him. Because she could find her own you know didn't have to rely on her father. And that's why Mr. Brooks liked her. He kind of liked her even though she was chasing him. I think his relationship with her mirrored his relationship with his own daughter.
Starting point is 00:10:12 The killer. Yeah, he wanted his daughter to find her own thing and not just be a killer like him. Yeah. If that didn't work out for him. No, well, that one's tough because a lot of the stuff where they actually talk about is daughter being a killer By the way news flash is daughter's killer. I love it. It was a daughter played by James's woods his daughter from shark the CBS hit show sharp So she specializes in playing the daughter of male stars from the decade past, say.
Starting point is 00:10:47 Well, yeah, so she apparently is a murderer or a murderous, don't know which is appropriate. And the shirt murderer. Don't be sexist, do it. Now, the entire, like, the old town murderer just like anyone else. Well, the only time they really addressed her being a murderer is when he's talking to his imaginary friend and since those conversations don't really happen, is she really a murderer or is that all I made up shit? Is that a part of his craziness that's coming out? Yeah, maybe is he just like projecting like, if I was her, I'd be a murderer. Maybe she's imaginary as well.
Starting point is 00:11:24 That's never, well that'd be kind of strange but. I'd also like to point out that like she's apparently a hatchet killer. I mean first of all I think that in general like women, you know like not to gender discriminate or like make specific age but I think women are more poison-oriented murders in general. But also why would she be carrying around a hatchet? Either this is a crime of passion and she just happened to have a hatchet because she was chopping some kindling or she specifically chose a hatchet.
Starting point is 00:11:53 And I'm not sure which one we weird her for like a student who wants to embark on her career of killing chooses a hatchet. Well, maybe it was logging school she was going to. I mean, they didn't address that. It could have been a log school name. Jeanette, you're literally the first woman we've had on the podcast. So, you have to represent your entire sex. Well, I'd like to think that a hatchet is a tool you could use to try and... It's a phallic.
Starting point is 00:12:19 Well, it's kind of a phallic, isn't it? Okay. So, I think that maybe, you know, women oftentimes want the power of being a man. So it's like swinging a big penis around. Yeah, exactly like that. Yep, and when, wait. Wait, Hatchetwood, that's a vagina. I've heard that before.
Starting point is 00:12:40 Yeah, I think you introduced me to that phrase, by the way. And thank you. Man, yeah, that's a good one So yeah, so wait you take the hatchet and you try and stick it in the hatchet wound That's no into the vagina really sensual It's literally the most sensual way to kill someone now you're you're a woman It's cool. I got you. You're a murderist. You're a dead problem.
Starting point is 00:13:07 We as a murderer. I don't know this, though. You don't know this, but who knows? This is, I suspect it. How are you going to start killing people? You got to start killing people. You got to start that career off. You got to get that high.
Starting point is 00:13:19 Well, it seems like dad's always killing people with guns. That's true. Yeah, I kind of wanted to step things up a little bit. Okay, so you were going straight to hatch. I'm going to bloodier. Like, like, cudgel? I don't know, like a letter, start with like a letter opener maybe, something small to get me into it.
Starting point is 00:13:36 Yeah, just to start you off. Yeah, you could step someone in the eye with a letter opener. That's true, but I've been really gross. Killing is gross Stewart. Killing is gross, but it's also gets you all. Yeah, yeah. Let's talk about how it gets you, because there was the first time we are introduced to Mr. Brooks. Well, first he's won the man of the year. From what governing body I'm not sure. I think it's the box maker's union. Yeah, let's take a moment to point out that Mr. Brooks is a box magnate.
Starting point is 00:14:10 He owns a very big box making concern. And as a manufacturer of cardboard boxes for various items, we see him showing some Japanese businessmen the sake box that they've apparently designed in house. Yeah He's a very rich man from making boxes understandable. So he's being awarded a Man of the year. I think not because because he's a box maker. I don't think first box Yeah, but then later on that night he goes out and he murders someone and when he murders them he has this odd sort of orgasmic reaction that's captured from several different camera angles and replayed.
Starting point is 00:14:51 Well let's point out that it also been two years since he had murdered anyone so this was like the orgasm waiting to happen. so do you think Kevin Costner uses own O face as a model for that or that he based it on somebody else's O face I think he studied I think he studied it and he went on right along with other murderers so they look like that's well I've always heard the Kevin Costner like really gets into his roles like that like when he was in the position he's saying that he killed someone? I would, I wouldn't put a past him in the postman.
Starting point is 00:15:29 I bet he delivered a lot of mail. I think had people call him the postman in the water, in water world. He called him water man. He had gills. So that we attached to his name. Uh huh. That was a good move to you. He also wore a bowtie in this film.
Starting point is 00:15:45 It's not forget that. That's true. We did. Now, a couple of weeks ago, I watched the first half of the Guardian. Also released this year featuring Kevin Costner in the title, then, like, the lead role. Title role. I think he played the Guardian. And Ash, Ash, actually.
Starting point is 00:16:00 I should go to another actor that America's love affair with. We'll just never stop We're really enough the Demi Moore connection And you know what do you think that maybe ashen could your Pushed the mr. Brooks script in the Demi Moore's hands is like I cost nervous talking about this great project He's working on I think I think there's a perfect role for you You know what I bet that he actually had actually jd all lined up, the film, the couple scenes, and then Ashen Kutcher flexed his... flexed his leg muscle.
Starting point is 00:16:33 That's a nice fit of muscle. Or maybe he just played the friend car because I threw the guardian on it. I bet they were pretty fast friends. You know, their on-screen chemistry was amazing. Was it in the Guardian? I didn't see the Guardian. Okay I did. As I said a couple minutes again you see with your other girlfriend's story it seems to be a little confusion about me. Yes I don't want to talk about this. So the Guardian not very good. This
Starting point is 00:17:02 quite good apparently. Now there was a part of the thing that was confusing about Demi Moore was the fact that her characters seemed pretty much unnecessary, completely, totally unnecessary. And then they included the additional serial killer subplot, where she's chasing a serial killer who just escaped, who's dating, like the serial killer's dating, some check with really big eyebrows. Yeah. And half died hair, or the two half dyed hair. Which is the way that the way that they almost get to be more, the way the killer almost gets to be more
Starting point is 00:17:31 is to be more distracted. Apparently by this woman's two-tone hair. I mean that's the way it seems to be edited in shot. After eyebrow rings. Yeah. And then that gives the killer time to push her into the man and they drive off with her. Yeah. I would be distracted, I think. I mean, guys, I mean, she's distracted, I think primarily because let's be honest, Demi Moore's hair in this movie looks great. Oh, well, I'm gonna say it looks really bad and flat.
Starting point is 00:18:01 Well, we're gonna have to agree to disagree on this one. How do you compare it Charlie's Angels 2? You know, I'm actually gonna have to, I'm gonna have to admit that I never actually saw that one. Really? I don't know how I managed to miss that one. Because I'm a really big fan of Mick Jenny. Here's where I'm gonna go out on a limb.
Starting point is 00:18:22 All the true film fans are just gonna crucify me for for holding this position But I think that Charlie's angels too is superior to the original Charlie's angels that's gonna be a lot of slack for that one Oh, there's gonna be a lot of chatter on the flop house forums I'm gonna rent Charlie's angels too and call you up in like an hour. What is it like 60 minutes? Because I'm more interested right now I'm talking about this than what we're actually talking about. Let me give you my rational though. Okay. Charlie's Angels. Obviously like supposed to be this stupid like actually I'm not supposed to take seriously. It was an action comedy. However, when I watched it, I was like,
Starting point is 00:19:06 well, they want to have it both ways. They want to have it be like this really, really goofy movie, but they also wanted to somehow still work kind of as a blockbuster I felt like. Whereas the second movie was so absurd that it basically was just, you know, let's have the angels up here in a variety of fetish costumes for various reasons, you know, like they're different under under under cover missions. I sort of respected it for its lack of ambition. No, sure. I like that the only thing that you can say about it is that they were fetish.
Starting point is 00:19:40 Well, really, really, what else do you do? I'm not attracted to any of the three members watch it Charlie's Angels 2 for I'm not attracted to any of the three members of the Charlie's Angels team yeah I think that's kind of weird and I think I'm supposed to be yeah I can't read the S. yeah from the mask yeah that's what she's best known as the Great breakthrough before But I'm sure I guess So Dane Cook is in this movie. I've never actually seen him in a movie or anything I had no idea who he was before this movie. He's apparently on my space a lot. Yeah doing what being a comedian
Starting point is 00:20:24 Yeah, but being comedians specifically that enjoys networking with his fans He's apparently on MySpace a lot. Doing what? Being a comedian. But being a comedian specifically that enjoys and networking with his fans. So he's like, right, people joke on there, like MySpace comes. Look, he's no kidding. The store was rocks. They cooked peace out suckers.
Starting point is 00:20:38 That's not a joke. He's shit. Oh my God, then he isn't a comedian. He's known for really building up a fan base through interacting with the people. He's come down all of his high standup, out of his high standup tower, through the interact with his fans directly
Starting point is 00:20:57 through the internet. Okay. He's an every man kind of guy. Yeah, he also likes a lot of gestures. This is like a gesture-based comedy Why don't I say that I wasn't very impressed with his performance in this movie? I wasn't impressed with With his with his skin complexion You were impressed with I wasn't
Starting point is 00:21:21 He looked kind of like a beige orange peel. Why did he start out? Why did he start out as this tough guy? I've got your secret. I'm going to take you down if you don't do what I want. And then turn to this blubbering nervous like wreck. Yeah, let's clarify. Dan Cook played the guy who wanted to become a murderer. He saw this rooks kill someone and instead of turning him in, he was like, I want to join your murder club. Or carry those being like, hey, you know what, this guy just murdered two people?
Starting point is 00:21:59 He's probably done before and this guy's got a lot to lose. Maybe I shouldn't like threaten him? Well again it's the perfect stranger problem. Like we talked about how at the end of perfect stranger Giovanni Rubezi shows up at Halle Berry's place and is like oh by the way I figured out you're the murderer and I haven't told anybody and I want you to have sex with me or else I'll tell people and so of course she kills him. Likewise, I mean like here, Dan Cook's character is a little smarter. He has the photographs of the killing and he's, you know, it's the old, it's something happens to me.
Starting point is 00:22:36 These photos are going to be found ploy, but still, I'm smarted. Yeah, well you had a inferior mind to Kevin Costner's character. Yeah, again, you know, all serial killers are masterminds and geniuses. I mean the other thing is of course, keep in mind that like this movie demonstrates once again the two heads of bearer than one Kevin Costner also has the advantage of having William Hurt around to give him advice. So in addition to being a genius as it is then he has... He has an additional imaginary character helping him out. Yeah, a Paul Bettany Bask character if you would. Right. Right. They also like to enjoy little
Starting point is 00:23:15 cackles together at certain times throughout the movie, which I thought was really retarded. Yeah, there's a lot of things I didn't like about this movie, but in actuality one of the things I did like, I thought there was a weird friendly chemistry between William Hart and Kevin Coste. I did not like that. That is the only thing I think one of the only thing I genuinely like is it almost, like it did kind of feel like they're weird buddies. Now, granted, both of them were kind of weird guys in general.
Starting point is 00:23:41 It didn't make any sense to me because it started out with Kevin Coste and her hating this guy and like, we're not hating him but just like really wanting to overcome his session with killing and then going ah stop telling me to kill people I hate you and then all of a sudden they're like buddies and cackling in the back and then you know hugging each other and a kitchen on the floor while they're crying together. Yeah that was just they did. Did you hug? Was that a imaginary hug though probably? I think we're the boy with a problem. He was like an air. I thought that was a real hug. You know I thought that maybe when they're laughing like that was the one time when the like the two sides of his personality merged. I had a good laugh together. Okay so it was deep
Starting point is 00:24:22 like that. I'm saying going back to Dinkook though. Not a good actor. However, I think appropriate to the role. Because I really believe that he was like this creepy asshole. That's fair. He did seem like a creepy asshole and frankly the majority of the movie, like when he got killed, I didn't really care. I thought it was kind of funny. Well it's a problem, I didn't care about anybody in this movie really like not even Kevin Costner Kevin Costner's oh like liking Kevin Costner's always a fucking uphill battle you got movies like 10 cup and all those other fucking movies where like eventually you're like oh man this rascal this old
Starting point is 00:25:00 fucking same bagger I like him despite all his flaws. Well, this movie, like there's very little like about him other than the fact that he's really good at being a murderer. Yeah, you mean that the fact that he's a serial killer doesn't make you sympathetic to him? No, that's strange. I mean, they do a meet like there is the good screenwriting thing early on where they're like the main character is awarded the man of the year or like oh he is well what's his story I want to find out more about this guy that is the most baffling sort of screenplay trope to me by the way the fact yeah you see it in movies like you know like you see in like cop movies of the eighties let's say a Beverly Hills cop, where the bad guy is always the
Starting point is 00:25:46 upstanding member of society who's being honored at some charity function. Yeah, then they'll break in and they'll be like wait a minute and then there's a big, you know, hullabaloo. You know, I guess that was an original idea when it was an original idea like oh okay the film's actually that was original because I was thinking about this actually the seven it seems like in 70s films especially Robert and Mira was that one thing you have to actually drive her yeah yeah yeah he always plays he always plays such a bad like unlikeable character back in the 70s and all those movies like a womanizer
Starting point is 00:26:22 and like this like kind of disgusting and all these like gritty New York movies, where he's like killing people and you never like him, but he's the hero. I feel like the 80s was like the turnaround time. We can like, we're supposed to start liking the character more. They're supposed to be like more upstanding citizens, but that doesn't work really for me. Wait, the bad guys are supposed to be more upstanding
Starting point is 00:26:42 or the good guys you're like. The good guys, the bad guys, can be both now. Oh, okay, yeah, the good guys you're supposed to be more upstanding or the good guys you're a lot better. The bad guys should be can be both now. Oh okay, the good guys are like individualistic anti-heroes. Okay, that's kind of like this movie. Speaking of Beverly Hills Copta, I want to point out that the director of this film, one of the movie directed was Cups, which is basically Beverly Hills Cop if you replace the Beverly Hills Police Department with a private security company, which is basically Beverly Hills Cups if you replace the Beverly Hills Police Department with a private security company which is where you place Eddie Murphy with Christian
Starting point is 00:27:10 Slater. Damn, I'm not gonna lie. I really like the movie Cups. Maybe a bit shoe in that movie? No, what's really easy then. Oh my God, the Chick from Resident Evil. Oh yeah, Mel, Mel, Joe. Me and Joe, which is one of the first acting parts. Oh my god the chick from Resident Evil. Oh yeah, Melanie Jones.
Starting point is 00:27:25 That was one of the first acting parts. Exactly, and the dude who played the titular role in Dr. Giggles was one of the bad guys. Dr. Giggles. No, I, you know, it's probably not a good movie, but I saw Cups at the right age that now I... I saw that and like the next week I saw if looks could kill with Richard and the guy and I'm like, movies can get better than these dudes. Oh man.
Starting point is 00:27:53 We had some lights talking about if looks could kill earlier. A couple of seconds ago, I just had a full flash make to remind you. Yeah. Well, despite all the plots, I feel like we're winding down a little. I think that we should just move on. Probably a good idea. Line it up. Um, so, final judgments. Simon, can you remind us of the, as always, the official flop house categories are, is this a movie that you didn't like at all? I wouldn't recommend to anyone. A movie that you didn't like at all, I wouldn't recommend anyone. A movie that you thought was so bad,
Starting point is 00:28:26 it's good, if you will, funny, because it was bad, or a movie that you secretly kind of liked. So I'm gonna start with Chinette, our... A lot of pressure. That's a lot of pressure. And actually, that's a pretty easy one for me. I would have to say the number one category here. I didn't like it at all and I wouldn't recommend it to watch for a good time because honestly I didn't really have that. So you would recommend it to watch for a bad time.
Starting point is 00:28:53 Yes. If you'd like to have a bad time. Now I wouldn't even say it's a bad time. Just kind of like a honkshoe. Like it's a little, I don't know, too much too much convoluted plot. I didn't really, I didn't really want there to be too, so much. I wasn't. You didn't really care. I cared, I didn't want there to be so much. So good. Damn. I'm gonna, this might, I'm gonna go for it. This is gonna be my first. I kind of liked it. I kind of, I'm not gonna go out, I'm not gonna say it's a good movie
Starting point is 00:29:24 by any stretch. However, what I appreciated about it was actually what you didn't like. I just liked the fact that there was so much stuff going on. We made this weird thriller and we're just gonna pack it full of the craziest twists. We are gonna have four killers in it or like three killers and one potential killer. Like the tagline I was saying, like, if you're a guy who wants to be a killer, you need to learn from a killer who's the dad of a killer. You know, it was just really weird.
Starting point is 00:29:58 And I mean, I don't think it's good, but if it came on like HBO, if you have HBO and it came on and you had like a couple drinks and it's like a Tuesday, yeah, I would say watch it. Yeah, yeah, in a world where too many killers, the best killer has to set up and kill the other killers. You know, Dan, we've had a lot of disagreements in the past. I think this one I might actually have to agree with Dan. I weirdly enjoyed this movie. I don't quite know why, but early on I was like this movie is fucking really weird.
Starting point is 00:30:32 I kind of like it. I think it was when the dude Blackmailing was like, dude I totally want to join your team. Like okay, fuck it, okay. How long for the ride? How long for this date cook, dude. Let me send the backseat with William Hurts and we'll watch what's going on.
Starting point is 00:30:50 So, yeah, I mean, I'm not gonna say it's a good movie or like, I agree with like, it being good or interesting. But there's a lot of weird ass shit I have, making this, I have to say, I'd like to, uh, significant parts of it. Alright, holy shit. Wow. I feel a little weird.
Starting point is 00:31:08 Maybe it's because Simon's not here. Yeah. He's a very negative guy. Yeah, we didn't have his negative toxicity pouring all over us. Well, moving away from that section of the show, however, Matt comes to the section where we're talking about things that we would recommend without Reservations perhaps not a pure having a couple drinks on a Tuesday. So I'm gonna start with Stuart Last night I watched the first half of a little movie called 300 and you know
Starting point is 00:31:41 We don't get a lot of like really good period pieces anymore And you're gonna try and sell 300 is a really good period is a really good period base like it really transports you to the the days of your And what was your it was quite some time ago of I recall all right when they're when they're monsters invading from Africa or something and You know where men were men and head really awesome six packs and we're kind of sassy and we really appreciate their freedom. So I'm gonna recommend that if you really like your freedom and you don't like some fucking giant dude with a budget slaves tell you what to do. You should watch that shit. Pretty good. You think I'm gonna be so tense again?
Starting point is 00:32:25 No, no, I watched 300 and I guess I was entertained. But for a movie that was like nothing but a big fight scene, I was strangely bored by it. I felt sleep better, I was tired so I can't blame it on the movie. I blame the Persians. They most have hit you with some sleeping gas, carried by one of their elephant men. Chinatown, do you have a recommendation? I don't know. I'm trying to think of something. I mean last movie. I'm moving. I'm moving right away.
Starting point is 00:32:54 Yes, I'm moving. I have a lot of difficulty grasping my concept. You're right. You're gonna recommend my mother, yeah? No, that's not a new one. You're gonna say that she's gonna recommend the soda fresca. No, it's not a new one. No, that's not a new one. You're gonna say that she's gonna recommend the soda fresca. No, it's not a new one. No, it's not a new one.
Starting point is 00:33:20 You're gonna say that she's gonna recommend the soda fresca. No, it's not a, I understand this part. I'm actually trying to think of something that I've seen recently. Um, the only thing I happen to see George of the jungle yesterday with, uh, what's his name? Brendan Frazier. Brendan Frazier? I would recommend that movie if you would like to be just completely, feel ridiculous the
Starting point is 00:33:44 entire time you're watching it and kind of pissed off. So that is more of a condition or not even nation. But other than that, I guess I could recommend I just watch raising Arizona again for the first time in a long time. So that's always a good one to fall back on. Right. Good for a laugh. Good for a good laugh. Now, was it Brennan Fraser also in the Dudley do right movie? Yeah, he's making a career of a bang and J Ward
Starting point is 00:34:11 Cartoon adaptations. That's fucking really weird. Yeah Yeah, he was in what else was he and that was really We feel like a niche. Oh, and Cena was he and he was totally and He actually played the insin-o-a in character. Right. That Pauli Schor and Sean Asimba, the friend. He's also a monkey bone. He is in the movie, Mojima, that's true. I didn't know that movie named Pauli.
Starting point is 00:34:34 He's also in that blast from the past movie with Christopher Wollapen and Alicia Silverstech. There's a whole sort of, like, I think it's kind of a period of time. Extremely light of comedy. A lot like 300 that way. So our is kind of match up. Days of your. So after all that discussion about how it has been movie that we're recommending,
Starting point is 00:34:57 I this is this is like a first for me because I do a movie podcast and by that I like movies. I have not seen any movies since we last recorded a podcast. So are you gonna just record Mr. Brooks? Well everyone should see it. It's my pick for the best picture Oscar. No, we're interesting. I'm gonna break the rules when I'm gonna keep in the video medium and say that I watched for the first time the IT crowd, the British sitcom that was downloaded for me by a friend in a what I'm sure is a completely legal way from the internet.
Starting point is 00:35:41 Sure. What is his name? An address called, his name is Mr. Brooks. Okay, it was on Mr. Brooks Lane. There's no way that could be fake. I don't know. I do three, four fake streets, sure. But what I have to say about the IT crowd is,
Starting point is 00:35:59 British sitcoms seem to have this ability to do something that most American sitcoms just don't know how to do, which is have relatable sort of understanding, understandable situations. It has a real life grounding to stuff, but then it's not afraid of just throwing in completely absurd off-the-wall stuff and having that exist in the same universe and trust that the audience isn't going to gonna be like wait a minute are we in a real world or are we in a crazy world they're just gonna there's gonna take it as comedy because it's funny and uh that's fair they're really good it's a really good show so I'm ready
Starting point is 00:36:35 we'll have it in them we could do shows man thanks falling Yeah, I prefer movies and not shows, so I guess I'm in the mind of wording my guys. You're just enjoying your moral superiority for once. I am, it feels kind of uncomfortable. So, this is the first flop house with a guest house. Anything with guys? How you doing? Weird. Yeah? You feel a little uncomfortable, sure. Yeah, you feel a little bit comfortable sure Well, I feel a little pressure representing the entire woman, you know, population. I mean, we'd be population
Starting point is 00:37:11 I don't know, we're both forceful of bombastic personalities. I know. I mean, I think we popped a lot cherry tonight guys Mm-hmm. The woman cherry, your cherry. Feeling violated. Sure. Understandably. It's a little sore feeling violated. Sure, understandably. It's a little sore. A lot of truth. Well, with that image reverberating in podcast listeners ears, I think we should sign off, but I want to, as always, tell people that you go to the FlophousePodcast.blogspot.com and if while they're there and reading the show notes they want to vote for us or write a view. There's some links on the side they can click on and if they want to send an email
Starting point is 00:37:54 they can send it to the FlophousePodcast at gmail.com and maybe we'll respond. What do you think of that? Let's get to it. You're tight on that, man, dude. Yeah, totally in the bowl. I'm trying to cut down on the link the podcast. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:10 I'm just going to talk for about 20 more minutes about growth. You know what? It's because Simon's not here. That dude's a fucking slowy one, Kenobi. All we're going to get is infuriated emails from Simon. Yeah. At the Flophouse podcast at Gmail.com. He doesn't know the computer. I'm never listening to the Flop House podcast at gmail.com. He doesn't only computer it's I'll never listen to the Flop House again. Well, I'm that tragic note. It's tragic.
Starting point is 00:38:32 Sign up for tonight. I'm Dan McCoy. I'm Stuart Willington. I'm Jeanette Lair. Good night. Bye. Bye! Bye! Yay! I'll wait DSL lips is redundant. Yes, that would be redundant. Next, I'll be lip-lipped. Yep, right. It's like the ATM machine, you know. I think so. Look at it, look at it, look at it, look at it, look at it, it's plumbed by us lips.
Starting point is 00:38:58 It's like the ATM machine, you know. Look at it, look at it, look at it, look at it, look at it, it was plumbed by us lips. Mmm, but you got stung by a bunch of sexy bees. Yeah, rather than lips.

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