The Flop House - The Flop House's Third Annual Awards Floptacular
Episode Date: March 5, 20110:00 - 0:53 - Red carpet introduction0:54 - 35:51 - In contrast to EVERYONE ON THE INTERNET and our usual tendency to hate on things, we actually didn't mind the Oscars. 35:52 - 45:25 - Flop House Mov...ie Mailbag45:26 - 48:20- A brief pledge drive48:21 - 55:56 - Dan tells the greatest story in American letters. Suck it, Twain and Hemmingway.55:57 - 59:47 - Plugs, goodbyes, theme, and outtakes.
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                                         Welcome back, we're continuing our coverage of the third annual awards flop
                                         
                                         tagger, but I put all the podcast stars come out to shine despite such a
                                         
                                         thing not existing. And who do I see coming down the red carpet but daily show
                                         
                                         writer and flop house co-host Elliott Kaelin was splendid in an English walking
                                         
                                         coat and a backpack. And here's his other host Stuart Wellington walking
                                         
                                         cast in a speedo, giant boat buckle and not much else. And here's his other host, Stuart Wellington Walking Cast, and a speedo, giant built buckle and not much else.
                                         
                                         And here comes the third part of the co-hosting crime grid, Dan McCoy, and a casino-made entirely of sadness.
                                         
                                         Not sure how they manage that.
                                         
    
                                         And oh my god, it's the flop househouse cat.
                                         
                                         House cat, who are you wearing tonight?
                                         
                                         Broom-broom!
                                         
                                         Ha, ha, ha, ha.
                                         
                                         All right. Broom out! Ha ha ha! Alright. While the stars are all inside, so let's join them in the historic Dan's apartment theater for the third annual awards flap-tacular!
                                         
                                         Hey everyone and welcome to the Flop House, I'm Dan McCoy, I'm Stuart Wellington,
                                         
                                         and here comes Elliot Kaelin coming up third.
                                         
                                         Coming down the street bronze I'm glad to just have gotten a medal glad just
                                         
    
                                         made it on the podium an honor to be nominated hey hey there's a Segway
                                         
                                         everyone can be Leonardo and Segway diverted so this is the annual podcast FlopTacular.
                                         
                                         The Oscar.
                                         
                                         The Oscar Rappet.
                                         
                                         We've done 83 of these.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Or this will be our 83rd?
                                         
                                         No, we've done three of them.
                                         
    
                                         And there's always been a file problem before.
                                         
                                         Some sort of audio problem.
                                         
                                         This is the most cursed episode of the Flop House.
                                         
                                         More than Babylon ID.
                                         
                                         The fabled lost episode of the Flop House?
                                         
                                         Yeah, well Babylon AD broke the computer
                                         
                                         The computer rejected it was like wait another Vin Diesel science fiction epic. No, thank you
                                         
                                         It was the Babylon babies, right?
                                         
    
                                         original title. Yeah, I think that was the I think that's what the book way about it was big
                                         
                                         The book it was based on was called yeah, thank you. You're thinking of the movie solar babies
                                         
                                         It was the book it was based on was called. Yeah, thank you're thinking of the movie solar babies I'm I'm stuck think you're thinking of the million dollar babies tour billion dollar babies
                                         
                                         Whatever the kiss tour was I know
                                         
                                         Million dollar duck Alice Cooper not kiss million dollar duck indeed. You're thinking of the billion dollar brain
                                         
                                         The Harry Palmer movie, okay Harry Potter. Yes, the Harry Potter. I know a lot about that hog warts
                                         
                                         So guys we've gotten into things that sound like other things earlier than usual. We did it. I know a lot about that. Hogwarts. So guys, we've gotten into things that sound
                                         
                                         like other things earlier than usual. We did it. We broke a record. But we should talk about that.
                                         
    
                                         How did we do, Guinness Man? Oh, you're just, you're just short how that world record. Yeah,
                                         
                                         got to go a little faster last time next time. Guinness Man. That's just a guy who enjoys Guinness.
                                         
                                         That's not actually, he's not working on on. I thought he was from the World Records
                                         
                                         organization. He was drinking again his beer. Yeah.
                                         
                                         Was a stopwatch. So the Oscars. Get dunking the stopwatch in the
                                         
                                         beer though. So I don't know. Yeah. That was about Oscars. Well,
                                         
                                         tonight was a night for Oscar. So what's the last week?
                                         
                                         Oscar starring now.
                                         
    
                                         So I'm just a lot for us. So what's the last week? Starring. Starring.
                                         
                                         Starring.
                                         
                                         Curth Douglas.
                                         
                                         Also star of this year's.
                                         
                                         Maybe this segway will take sure.
                                         
                                         Okay.
                                         
                                         We have to keep transplanting segways until the podcast
                                         
                                         I was rejecting them.
                                         
    
                                         I'm sorry.
                                         
                                         So there was nothing we could do.
                                         
                                         The Academy Awards.
                                         
                                         What a night.
                                         
                                         What a glittery, glatery night. I was. It's a star. I was. The Academy Awards. What a night. What a glittery glatery night. I hate to be the
                                         
                                         the the contrarian. I don't think you do. I actually enjoy it. The popular
                                         
                                         consensus seemed to be that this was not only the worst Oscars but the worst
                                         
                                         television thing ever. When I actually enjoyed it quite a bit and I thought
                                         
    
                                         they did a good job. I liked it just fine myself and I think that your tweet was to the point when you had
                                         
                                         something about the people who were at the first Oscars ever declaring it to be the worst
                                         
                                         Oscars ever.
                                         
                                         Thank you.
                                         
                                         I believe the tweet was and we checked the record for this later was I don't know what
                                         
                                         it was.
                                         
                                         Something like headline from 1929 worst Oscars ever say attendees of first-ever Oscars every year is called
                                         
                                         the worst ever.
                                         
    
                                         And this year it happened to be this year.
                                         
                                         Sometimes I agree and sometimes I disagree.
                                         
                                         I also like the Letterman hosted Oscars, whichever one hated.
                                         
                                         Those I was mixed about.
                                         
                                         But they certainly weren't as bad as people make the what are people expecting?
                                         
                                         It's a fucking award show. They're boring. Tell basically. It's a three and a half hour award show
                                         
                                         That's got a lot of fake pomposity and it's got every year
                                         
                                         They're like it was so long why do I have to watch stars congratulating other stars for three hours?
                                         
    
                                         You don't man, you can watch fucking reruns of the Samson's or family guy or whatever family
                                         
                                         Gugger if ever there was a time in human history when you didn't have to watch the Oscars
                                         
                                         It is now when the options for human entertainment and time spending are as limitless as they've ever been
                                         
                                         Yeah, we are literally living in the era of
                                         
                                         unprecedented choice and how you look at what you watch or experience.
                                         
                                         I mean, if television commercials are to be believed, even the people in the audience
                                         
                                         could have watched something completely different on their phone, on their phone, they could
                                         
                                         have entered the cloud.
                                         
    
                                         Or you know what, worst case scenario?
                                         
                                         Close your fucking eyes and make up a movie in your head, you know?
                                         
                                         Remember when you were a kid and you did it all the time when you were in your family's
                                         
                                         house of worship?
                                         
                                         I do that. I was at a rest stop recently and That's how they advertise a book on tape was a movie in the mind
                                         
                                         I like that our argument in favor of the Oscars was if you don't like it one on imagine something jerk
                                         
                                         Well, come I just people talked about it even so toberg use that as an acceptance speech
                                         
                                         He but people talked about it as if the Oscars owes it to them
                                         
    
                                         to be entertaining to them.
                                         
                                         And it's good when the Oscars are entertaining,
                                         
                                         because it's always good when something is entertaining
                                         
                                         and not boring.
                                         
                                         But like, exactly.
                                         
                                         What do you say to it?
                                         
                                         What were they expecting from this?
                                         
                                         What did they think they were going to see?
                                         
    
                                         And then everyone, it's so funny because the minute Billy
                                         
                                         Crystal got, if people were talking about, oh,
                                         
                                         when Billy Crystal got up, it was like,
                                         
                                         oh, I can't, he host.
                                         
                                         And it's like, does anyone remember years ago
                                         
                                         when everyone was like enough with the Billy Crystal
                                         
                                         already, enough with the fucking songs
                                         
                                         with all the movie titles in them?
                                         
    
                                         Are we gonna do this for a ninth year, you know?
                                         
                                         Yeah, I think Billy Crystal is doing exactly
                                         
                                         what he needs to do right now,
                                         
                                         which is to do boring memoir shows on Broadway.
                                         
                                         That's the thing.
                                         
                                         When he starts talking about his history,
                                         
                                         it's like, oh, great, 700 Sundays right here on the Oscars
                                         
                                         But that was like I thought there was a lot about this Oscars to that I enjoyed and the main thing was just that the people at the Oscars
                                         
    
                                         Looked like they were enjoying being at the Oscars. There wasn't this feeling of like
                                         
                                         Another slog another one of these shows like Ann Hathaway looked like she really enjoyed it James Frank
                                         
                                         I looked like I don't know but like you rocked back and forth a lot
                                         
                                         I think but like even Robert Downey Jr. and Jude Law looked like they were enjoying a little bit
                                         
                                         They're like bickering bit that they did
                                         
                                         Kirk Douglas hat was obviously overjoyed to be on stage again at the age of 94
                                         
                                         You know like it was just very nice to see these people enjoy themselves.
                                         
                                         And especially I let was nice to me to see everyone and another thing that you got on the internet
                                         
    
                                         was a lot was like, correct Douglas is so old. Oh, why is he on television? It's like, it's nice to see
                                         
                                         them showing respect for someone who is a real star, you know, in a way that nobody in the movies is
                                         
                                         today. Especially this like increasingly like short-sighted and like short memory.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Can I, I can have, I can have a slightly slurry and thick-voiced Kirk Douglas,
                                         
                                         who is an amazing legend, someone I've personally been a fan of for a long time,
                                         
                                         and an inspiration for having overcome a stroke,
                                         
                                         or I can watch like Seth Rogan could come out
                                         
    
                                         and do his normal stick.
                                         
                                         Which one do you want to see?
                                         
                                         And then like Kirk Douglas,
                                         
                                         did you call him?
                                         
                                         Did you call him Spartacus, or like fucking,
                                         
                                         I don't know, that somebody else in some movies,
                                         
                                         like can't even think that a G.I.
                                         
                                         So much.
                                         
    
                                         A man to see free, whatever her name is.
                                         
                                         Well, what's a man to see free to wearing?
                                         
                                         That's the, she's wearing what Kirk Douglas is wearing. Oh, okay, Well, yeah, cryptogles. But no, I mean, like, everything with
                                         
                                         cryptogles to obviously like for yelling so much difficult to understand, but the man's
                                         
                                         a sprain, you know, has not been affected like he was. That's the thing. If he, if it seems
                                         
                                         like he didn't know where he was or what he was doing. No, but he was very funny. He was
                                         
                                         very funny and he was very,
                                         
                                         like he more than most of the people there seemed to get,
                                         
    
                                         like he had a perspective on the Oscars.
                                         
                                         Like he said when he's up there, like,
                                         
                                         I did this three times and I lost every time.
                                         
                                         Like he, it was nice to see someone who's been through
                                         
                                         that in his now, you know, as opposed to the people
                                         
                                         who still think this award means anything.
                                         
                                         And frankly, I thought he was more eloquent
                                         
                                         than James Franco was mostly.
                                         
    
                                         That's the thing a lot of the I enjoy James Franco as a co-host to somebody else.
                                         
                                         Yeah, but it just been him.
                                         
                                         He would have been it would have been a difficult and you know, you know, in a half way,
                                         
                                         not hilarious, but elite like and her approach to comedy is kind of like the like high school
                                         
                                         drama girl doing comedy,
                                         
                                         like very over the top.
                                         
                                         But at least she's up for it, you know?
                                         
                                         Yeah, she's got some energy, she's got some verve.
                                         
    
                                         Yeah, and I like her, I like both of them in particular in the opening bit where they
                                         
                                         could do what they do, which is act rather than trade banter.
                                         
                                         James Franco, through the rest of the show, I was enjoying him.
                                         
                                         I understood why the fan of the show. James Franco, through the rest of the show, I was enjoying him.
                                         
                                         I understood why the internet did not enjoy.
                                         
                                         The internet was expecting a regular host,
                                         
                                         whereas I was enjoying James Franco going up there
                                         
                                         and being the most James Franco he could be.
                                         
    
                                         Except when they get a regular host, they hate it.
                                         
                                         Every year, if you get a regular host, it's same old thing.
                                         
                                         And if you get a different type of host, like Letterman or James Franco,
                                         
                                         it's like, what are you doing? This isn't the Oscars. same old thing and if you get a different type of host like letter of inter-jane Franco is like
                                         
                                         what are you doing?
                                         
                                         this isn't the Oscars? I'm done for, I'm done for, I'm done for, I'm done for, I'm done for, I'm done for, I'm done for, I'm done for, I'm done for, I'm done for, I'm done for, I'm done for, I'm done for, I'm done for, I'm done for, I'm done for, I'm done for, I'm done for, I'm done for, I'm done for, I'm done for, I'm done for, I'm done for, I'm done for, I'm done for, I'm done for, I'm done for, I'm done for, I'm done for, I'm done for, I'm done for, I'm done for, I'm done for, I'm done for, I'm done for, I'm done for, I'm done for, I'm done for, I'm done for, I'm done for, I'm done for, I'm done for, I'm done for, I'm done for, I'm done for, I'm done for, I'm done for, I'm done for, I'm done for, I'm done for, I'm done for, I'm done for, I'm done for, I'm done for, I'm done for, I'm done for, I'm done for, I'm done for, I'm done for, I'm done for, I'm done for, I'm done for, I'm done for, I'm done for, I'm done for, I'm done for, I'm done for, I'm done for, I'm done for, I'm done for, I'm done for, I'm done for, I'm done for, I'm done for, I'm done for, I'm done for, I'm done for, I'm done for, I'm done for, I'm done for, I'm pie is about to hit you in the face. You don't know it. And he's just waiting for it to happen. You know, he knows that you are about to be revealed as some baby's father. And you don't know
                                         
                                         it. And he is just relishing that moment, that's that slide. See what L.A. is doing now. It's
                                         
                                         closing his eyes and creating a movie in his mouth. It's called James Franco secret holder.
                                         
    
                                         his mom. It's called James Franco secret holder. But treasure. The legend of Curly's gold. Why don't we just call it the secret? Can we just call it the secret? We might be
                                         
                                         get sued by the holder of the book title. Oh, you can't copyright a title. But that
                                         
                                         wasn't James Franco. No, James Franco wrote that yet. Okay. So we probably wouldn't mind story. It was his book based on the movie, the secret of my success. Okay. Oh, man. I
                                         
                                         don't need like, yeah, which itself was based on the movie secrets and lies. Very loose
                                         
                                         adaptation. So we're gonna lose a lot of. Should we talk about? We're gonna lose a lot
                                         
                                         of these episodes. We started off with a bunch of gibberish and malware. We are sticking to claim
                                         
                                         directly in opposition to the Almighty Internet. Probably anonymous is going to take us down
                                         
                                         or Julie and a Sons. We're also taking a attack very different from our usual relentless
                                         
    
                                         negativity. Yeah, that's true. Well, we're being negative about the Internet. So what
                                         
                                         we're talking about, should we talk about the actual awards? Yeah, well, first I was happy that Amy Adams lost.
                                         
                                         Yep.
                                         
                                         So that was there's negativity.
                                         
                                         There's negativity right there.
                                         
                                         Florence.
                                         
                                         I lost my office pool.
                                         
                                         So that's I'm unhappy about that.
                                         
    
                                         Did you think the King's speech was going to win best picture?
                                         
                                         Is that why you lost?
                                         
                                         No, that one I guess, right?
                                         
                                         Did some daily show celebrity take the office pool?
                                         
                                         Let's put some star power on this podcast.
                                         
                                         Nope, there's another one of the writers.
                                         
                                         OK.
                                         
                                         But that's the awards this year.
                                         
    
                                         I was betting on Toy Story 3 losing best
                                         
                                         animated picture.
                                         
                                         And that was a mistake.
                                         
                                         You should not have that.
                                         
                                         You should not have bet your future earnings.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Is that why you're sleeping on my couch tonight? Yep, and Randy Newman that was good to get to see that guy
                                         
                                         Oh, I like seeing that dude. I like seeing that dude. I'm afraid of the spotlight Randy
                                         
    
                                         Come on come out to the Oscars and play some sometime. I didn't realize this was only his second
                                         
                                         That's a thing like I thought he had one like 80 times no, and his first one was somewhat somewhat recent, right?
                                         
                                         Like it what he I think you won for you got a friend in me or yeah, but still like, I mean, he's been making music.
                                         
                                         Let's leave it alone. What are the, what are the, what are the, what are the,
                                         
                                         the, the lovita loka? Is that his song? Yeah, that's.
                                         
                                         Like that, that, that lady Gaga song, is that his? Yes. The one about.
                                         
                                         I'm glad we're waiting around to see what you're going to come up with. Um, that lady Gaga song, is that his? Yes. The one about out on the way.
                                         
                                         I'm going to wait for her to see what you're going to come up with.
                                         
    
                                         I'm having trouble coming up with references today.
                                         
                                         But I, the oh shit.
                                         
                                         Uh oh, who's good?
                                         
                                         Ra Ra Ra!
                                         
                                         Quick.
                                         
                                         I got it.
                                         
                                         It was just out of here with the house cat.
                                         
                                         I got this one, guys.
                                         
    
                                         But yeah, I mean, the awards were not particularly controversial this year.
                                         
                                         It was for most of them, it seemed like people
                                         
                                         knew what was going to happen.
                                         
                                         The big upset for me was the lost thing,
                                         
                                         winning best animated short.
                                         
                                         It's a really good short.
                                         
                                         And I night and day, which is also really good,
                                         
                                         I thought was going to win, but it was nice to have
                                         
    
                                         a non-pixar cartoon when there's a Pixar cartoon there.
                                         
                                         I was, to be honest, I was a little surprised by, I mean, I shouldn't have been, but I was
                                         
                                         a little, let's say, disappointed with the best picture choice and best director.
                                         
                                         I was a little surprised that they both went to the King's Speech.
                                         
                                         I was disappointed by best director.
                                         
                                         I knew at this point that best picture was going to be interesting.
                                         
                                         I was kind of hoping Aaron Opsky was going to take that one.
                                         
                                         I was hoping too.
                                         
    
                                         He's not going to.
                                         
                                         He may never.
                                         
                                         Until he makes a movie like the King's Speech, He's not going to get it or maybe when he is 75 years old and he makes a movie that by our standard by the standards of 40 years from now or when it's like 35 years from now by those standards looks tame.
                                         
                                         Like best director is not going to go to someone who is doing something vital or powerful. What do you mean?
                                         
                                         Tom Hooper took a tell the departed for Scorsese to get a,
                                         
                                         yeah, maybe his, his least expert, his least adventurous movie,
                                         
                                         maybe ever. Yeah.
                                         
                                         Well, I mean, what do you know, what was so particularly important
                                         
    
                                         about the directing of the King's speech? I don't think there was
                                         
                                         one, but I think he was going to win it because
                                         
                                         the two of them are so often linked.
                                         
                                         Well, it's not always like Steven Spielberg won Best Director in a year that he didn't win Best Picture.
                                         
                                         Now I haven't seen the King's speech, but let me take a step back and say that
                                         
                                         a movie that has a great acting in it which to all counts the King's
                                         
                                         speech does have. It's a very good movie. A lot of that relies on the work of the
                                         
                                         director and and that is too often undervalued when you're talking about the
                                         
    
                                         direction of a movie like people focus on very flashy visual things or
                                         
                                         formal things. But even there I think that's why I was kind of surprised that David
                                         
                                         O'Rossil wouldn't have gotten it because I mean I there, I think that's why I was kind of surprised that David O'Russell wouldn't have gotten it because I mean, I think the, I think the, that's true.
                                         
                                         He took ensemble performance of the fighter.
                                         
                                         I can see why David O'Russell wouldn't win it.
                                         
                                         It's a interesting stuff.
                                         
                                         He did except that the last 15 minutes that movie is a slog.
                                         
                                         He shoots a boxing match in the game.
                                         
    
                                         That might just because we don't care about sports.
                                         
                                         No, no, but he, but his job is to make you care about it.
                                         
                                         Yeah. Boxing is not a super popular sport anymore.
                                         
                                         He's got to make you care what happens at the end of the match.
                                         
                                         Same thing with Bob sledding in the cool runnings.
                                         
                                         Cool runnings made me care about Bob sledding
                                         
                                         when I was, you know, 10 or however old I was.
                                         
                                         But that's the thing.
                                         
    
                                         And the magic of Dougy Doug.
                                         
                                         If you're doing a boxing movie, we've already seen Mark Wahlberg
                                         
                                         do this strategy one or two times in the movie
                                         
                                         where he does nothing and absorbs blows for
                                         
                                         Rounds and then punches a guy a couple times in the back and wins
                                         
                                         We've seen it so to see him do it again at the end is not interesting so like do something to live enough
                                         
                                         That's the surprise hell you
                                         
                                         Surprise as he does the same exact thing you would have figured they would have held the best for last
                                         
    
                                         They didn't know it the anti-climax is the biggest climax of all.
                                         
                                         But I like that movie a lot, but the end of it was really boring, because it just felt
                                         
                                         like watching a boxing match on TV, which I don't like doing.
                                         
                                         Like, when you think about the fact that you prefer to be ringside, that's what you're
                                         
                                         saying.
                                         
                                         I got to be there.
                                         
                                         We're in a suit and a hat with my lady in her fur coat.
                                         
                                         He's just yelling at the boxers yelling at the ring doctor. This is a blood match. This is a slaughterhouse. lady in her fur coat. Not yelling at the boxers, yelling at the ring doctor.
                                         
    
                                         This is a blood match.
                                         
                                         This is a slaughterhouse.
                                         
                                         Get him out of there.
                                         
                                         He's killing him in there.
                                         
                                         But especially when you've got a movie like
                                         
                                         Raging Bull where boxing looks amazing.
                                         
                                         Yeah, that's true.
                                         
                                         So, or some kind of a boxing promoter or?
                                         
    
                                         I just a fan.
                                         
                                         But I was thinking about the
                                         
                                         financial state that like
                                         
                                         the boxing scene at the end of rocky balboa
                                         
                                         the six rocky movie is more exciting than the climax of the fighter and the
                                         
                                         fight and right about all is not on where it fights uh... tommy gun notes
                                         
                                         refines mason dexan okay in a in this is an exhibition match and we've
                                         
                                         already been told one is he fought that robot butler in he never fights
                                         
    
                                         The robot butler that was the fan the fake I wrote that was a lot that is a miss calls Rocky for a half
                                         
                                         Rocky for half 4.1 the butler makes a mistake
                                         
                                         But the like and that's it's been anyway
                                         
                                         That's I can see why David Russell would get dinged for that and you're right acting
                                         
                                         Does the directing of acting deserves a lot but like I think with the way I was thinking about the other day was that
                                         
                                         The same way that on top chef sometimes a really interesting dish will lose to like comfort food made really well
                                         
                                         Tom Hooper made the ultimate comfort food movie and he did it very well
                                         
                                         And you know he got recognized for that and he doesn't necessarily not does it's not like he did a shitty job
                                         
    
                                         and he got best director. You know I'm a good job. I haven't seen it so I can't. It's
                                         
                                         not a it was not I realized I was saying this at the night that realized that was not a
                                         
                                         guild film so I didn't get a screener you know so and I'm too lazy to go out to see movies
                                         
                                         during the war season now that I get the mail to me. Well, I mean, I went to see it during its release.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         But, uh, see, you are, you're a more, uh, movie fan.
                                         
                                         Yeah, you're a bigger movie fan than I am.
                                         
                                         But that's, I don't care for the movies.
                                         
    
                                         Those in the King's Beach is a very well-made movie.
                                         
                                         It's a really entertaining and good movie.
                                         
                                         Like, you, the minute the movie starts, you know how it's going to end.
                                         
                                         You can follow along with it.
                                         
                                         Because of history.
                                         
                                         Not just, I mean, because of history but not just.
                                         
                                         You know like aliens aren't gonna show up or
                                         
                                         trans morphers or anything.
                                         
    
                                         Yeah, I thought you were gonna be like because of history.
                                         
                                         You know like alien versus better.
                                         
                                         We all know how that went down.
                                         
                                         The king isn't gonna like step through a mirror
                                         
                                         into the mirror verse, you know.
                                         
                                         Awesome.
                                         
                                         But at the same time.
                                         
                                         A lot of twist.
                                         
    
                                         Yes, he's getting a glass battle with a mirror Hitler. I don to get in a glass battle with mirror Hitler
                                         
                                         Mirror Hitler as the mustache on the other side
                                         
                                         No, no, no, remember in your boxy match mirror Hitler is right-handed
                                         
                                         But the like it's a really good movie to say like and this was the slate of best picture nominees was a really good movie. To say, and this was the slate of best picture nominees
                                         
                                         was a really good slate.
                                         
                                         Like this was a really good year for solid Hollywood movies.
                                         
                                         I think I said this when we talked about it
                                         
                                         previously in the podcast.
                                         
    
                                         Like it was a really good year for solid Hollywood movies.
                                         
                                         So to see the King's Beach win, which is like
                                         
                                         the ultimate solid Hollywood movie.
                                         
                                         Even if it's not technically, like,
                                         
                                         I don't know how much of it was Hollywood made.
                                         
                                         It was, I don't know if the Weinstein brothers produced it or just distributed it, but you know,
                                         
                                         directed by an Englishman I think, and I didn't realize a time who per looks like James
                                         
                                         Cameron circa 25 years ago.
                                         
    
                                         Yep.
                                         
                                         He looks just like young James Cameron.
                                         
                                         And Catherine Bigelow handed him the award and I have to imagine that she like recoiled
                                         
                                         for a second, thinking that she'd fallen through a time window,
                                         
                                         I'm still married to James Cameron.
                                         
                                         It's the ghost of Christmas past in the haunt her.
                                         
                                         Yeah, I don't, I mean like, again.
                                         
                                         That was the Gypsy's curse.
                                         
    
                                         I feel bad, go on with dinner.
                                         
                                         That just goes without saying.
                                         
                                         I feel bad that it turns out that I did not see the one movie that would have made this discussion
                                         
                                         simpler, but I can all
                                         
                                         be 27 hours. See, that's the one best picture nominee I didn't get to see. I mean,
                                         
                                         because my wife refused to see it. But it's not like I was asked to negotiate like
                                         
                                         gore zone eight, you know, if you were in charge, if it was the Elliot Academy Awards,
                                         
                                         which of the, which of the 10 nominees would you have picked?
                                         
    
                                         Either Black Swan or Toy Story 3.
                                         
                                         Probably Black Swan.
                                         
                                         Yeah, how are the ones that I saw?
                                         
                                         That's what I would say, too.
                                         
                                         Toy Story 3, I had the most genuine emotional reaction, too.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         And was the most entertained by it.
                                         
                                         But Black Swan was the one where, like, when the movie ended,
                                         
    
                                         I felt like I had experienced a real movie.
                                         
                                         Like, I felt like I had seen the tools movie. Like I felt like I had seen the
                                         
                                         tools of filmmaking it used in a way that really excited me and made like and I was engrossed
                                         
                                         by the movie. But you know, uh, what about you? What if it was the Welling Tones? Was
                                         
                                         which is also your do-up band? Yeah. Um, now I, I, I wasn't paying that close attention
                                         
                                         but was the invisible maniac nominated.
                                         
                                         Oh, would not be eligible.
                                         
                                         I think the movie is over 20 years old.
                                         
    
                                         Then I would probably say two or three.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Although black swan, yeah.
                                         
                                         You know, cast of reek.
                                         
                                         To be honest, saying the amount of praise
                                         
                                         that I get black swan is in many ways like pulling teeth.
                                         
                                         Like I have not liked Arnowski's other movies.
                                         
                                         I think they're a little bit too
                                         
    
                                         much form over function and the prefer the solid storytelling of his axe-nighter or a invisible maniac style
                                         
                                         movie but the but I think we're the topless ladies he i mean i felt he really kind of rained himself in and actually wow rain that's the first time i've heard
                                         
                                         that in the association with black swan no but i'm for a bar or not ski i think
                                         
                                         totally raking so i guess i guess compared to like uh...
                                         
                                         reprimand for a dream but not compared to like the wrestler necessarily
                                         
                                         except the wrestler he rained himself in too much yeah
                                         
                                         and that and people at the rest of the wrestler was one that i was underwhelmed by since it's basically the same movie as the
                                         
                                         champ except there's a stripper in it. No, I agree. I mean, but I think that what I think
                                         
    
                                         I would say that the thing about the black swan is a form and a function like.
                                         
                                         Meal of marriage so well. Yeah, movie. Yeah, it's a. It's a. I mean, it's ballet. So it's not
                                         
                                         operatic, but like the adjectives operatic. It's an operatic film, and it has operatic emotions and an outsized sort of sense of like just madness.
                                         
                                         But without-
                                         
                                         But without ever feeling like it takes place in a total fantasy world.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         You'll there's so much- there's so much grounding of it in real New York locations and the shooting of those locations
                                         
                                         that when crazy things happen, they feel crazy.
                                         
    
                                         It doesn't feel like a Terry Gillian movie where, and I like Terry Gillian a lot, but when
                                         
                                         something crazy happens to Terry Gillian movie, it's not surprising because he's been shooting
                                         
                                         a whole thing with kind of loopy cameras and fish eye lenses and things like that.
                                         
                                         The movie actually made me understand what people like about Italian, like horror and thriller
                                         
                                         cinema,
                                         
                                         because I finally actually could kind of understand
                                         
                                         like that same sort of like, not necessarily fantasy,
                                         
                                         but like, you know, it does seem to exist
                                         
    
                                         in a slightly skewed reality.
                                         
                                         Height and universe.
                                         
                                         Yeah, a universe that's...
                                         
                                         Where everyone loves ballet.
                                         
                                         A universe that's slightly taller than this one.
                                         
                                         Uh-huh.
                                         
                                         The universe that smells a little more like vanilla.
                                         
                                         There are people who love ballet.
                                         
    
                                         It wasn't like she was on the cover of Time Magazine
                                         
                                         and on television and things like that.
                                         
                                         You're gonna choose that out of all my off-hand comments
                                         
                                         to latch on to.
                                         
                                         It's the most recent one.
                                         
                                         Okay.
                                         
                                         But going back, Toy Story 3 was amazing.
                                         
                                         But Toy Story 3 is great. And it's they they managed to take characters who have been around
                                         
    
                                         for over a decade and they've had two other movies and make them still feel fresh and interesting
                                         
                                         and still like find a thing for the characters to do that they haven't done before. That's both
                                         
                                         way farther over the top than something they've done before and at the same time
                                         
                                         feels correct and feels really good and then you manage to make a children's
                                         
                                         movie where the heroes accept the imminent the imminent coming of their own
                                         
                                         death in a way that is not too dark in a way that feels right you know and that
                                         
                                         scary baby was scary. That was way scarier than anything in black swan.
                                         
                                         Yeah. The first time you see that baby is like, what is going on? Yeah. Cut my fingernails
                                         
    
                                         off any day. I just want to see that fucking baby. It's being wish like it to suppose
                                         
                                         is of a villain in the most horrific way possible. Like lots of those final, final fatal
                                         
                                         fate. And then it happens to him. I don't I don't want to spoil it. Yeah, let's not spoil it for all the
                                         
                                         kids. Well, you can tell me afterwards. I don't remember what it is. He's a you can imagine
                                         
                                         the existence sort of a toy pergatory for the rest of his days. Let's say that. Yep.
                                         
                                         Oh, I remember what he does now. Yeah, the rape. Yeah. The prison rape scene. Yeah, but
                                         
                                         uh, is that not in the movie when you saw it? I did see the expression.
                                         
                                         You may have seen it earlier.
                                         
    
                                         It's like the theatrical release of Clue, they put different endings.
                                         
                                         And one of the endings was directed by Pasalini.
                                         
                                         No, it's true that you say though about this being a good year for solid movies.
                                         
                                         For solid studio pictures too, because also, Trugret like I I like my co-in brothers
                                         
                                         movies a little more co-inny than that me too but of the non-co-inny co-in brothers
                                         
                                         movies that might be my favorite like I saw it twice within the space of a
                                         
                                         week during the christmas season because I saw it here and then like I watched
                                         
                                         it with the family at home and I enjoyed it just as much a second time it just
                                         
    
                                         really held up it was just fun all
                                         
                                         the way through actually. Yeah. Intel got sad but that was a very short part of the
                                         
                                         episode. That was just amazed that during the sound editing or sound mixing reel they give away
                                         
                                         part of the climax of the movie during the Oscars on Sunday. Did they? They show one character
                                         
                                         shooting another character in the chest and it's two of the main characters and it's like, oh, okay, I guess that was it was worth
                                         
                                         ruining that for the people haven't seen the movies that we could get an idea of what the sound makes the best edited sound in the whole movie.
                                         
                                         Like that was a scene where man was head and shoulders above the rest of the movie. I know there was a scene where there was like a knife cutting off fingers and a gun shot, but that's not the and crackling fire, that's not the scene with the great sound.
                                         
                                         Crackling fire, that's just someone putting cellophane near the microphone.
                                         
    
                                         But they had to mix it.
                                         
                                         Okay.
                                         
                                         It's all in the mix, just like those old Twix ads that were really lame.
                                         
                                         Yeah, sure.
                                         
                                         Stuart.
                                         
                                         That was just trying to get us back.
                                         
                                         Well, those Twix ads were pretty lame.
                                         
                                         I did not really exemplify the deliciousness that twix is.
                                         
    
                                         No, they tried to get twix onto the hip hop bandwagon.
                                         
                                         So this year's like some awards were a real shame.
                                         
                                         Well, the twixies.
                                         
                                         Well, they're just for the best of two of something in one package.
                                         
                                         Usually goes to light bulbs. Really disappointing. Yeah, we're like D batteries. Not even not even compact
                                         
                                         fluorescence just like old time old time. Old time. Well, it's the lifetime achievement
                                         
                                         award. We're being packed in packages of two for decades. But like they weren't
                                         
                                         they I think it may have bothered people that there was no nothing in this years academy words that was
                                         
    
                                         like
                                         
                                         crazy
                                         
                                         the craziest thing was an old man
                                         
                                         appearing and not being dead
                                         
                                         you know
                                         
                                         and they didn't do any
                                         
                                         there was a big event in the thing where they got like five past winter
                                         
                                         staining circle there was nothing like that that could draw everyone's hatred
                                         
    
                                         so the hatred was spread out throughout the
                                         
                                         here's something crazy.
                                         
                                         Here's something I'll bring up.
                                         
                                         That was the worst last year.
                                         
                                         And again, I was saying like, I know this Academy Awards.
                                         
                                         We're going to hear celebrities talk about how great celebrities are.
                                         
                                         But these people are already nominated for best actress or best actor.
                                         
                                         Do I need to see every one of them given a testimonial by some other person?
                                         
    
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Anyway, it was overkill, but they didn't do this year.
                                         
                                         You were saying?
                                         
                                         Uh, here's something that I'll'll single out as a crazy moment that
                                         
                                         That is the best with the spider-man
                                         
                                         now
                                         
                                         I don't even know what that means
                                         
                                         Spider-man suit Cape Lancer stress looking like the old superheroes where you'd rub them in the middle and their decal would show up
                                         
    
                                         The show that team they were on like like battle beast. a battle beast yeah growing to an army metal
                                         
                                         beasts no uh the am halfway song oh the Hugh Jackman one that didn't make any
                                         
                                         sense yeah where she was uh singing at Hugh Jackman that was a low point for me
                                         
                                         um that was stupid hassling him and she she performed it well but there was no
                                         
                                         reason he's a singer it doesn't make any sense Hugh Jackman upcoming star of the
                                         
                                         movie robot boxer or whatever the fuck he is.
                                         
                                         Oh, it's, yeah, was it called steel something?
                                         
                                         Real steel.
                                         
    
                                         It's really.
                                         
                                         It's called real steel.
                                         
                                         I think is also the name of a popular line of dildos.
                                         
                                         Well, this is, that movie is based on a short story that they made a twilight's
                                         
                                         an episode out of.
                                         
                                         So like that story has been around for a long time.
                                         
                                         I don't know what the title was. So it's not like some hip-s, young
                                         
                                         screen robocser came up with a deal of robot boxer. Okay, Robo, okay. Yeah, but that I mean,
                                         
    
                                         I don't even know what that I mean that was clearly plugging a hole in the telecast. Hello.
                                         
                                         I get it. Something was there. I assume at some point, but they didn't need it Yeah, they did it shows already too long. It something falls out just let it fall
                                         
                                         Yeah, unless they were killing time and she was making up that song as she went along because like in which case
                                         
                                         She's a brilliant musical
                                         
                                         It's like the next the next presenter like hadn't arrived yet
                                         
                                         She's the next Wayne Brady guys. Am I right? Come on? Yeah, everyone wait, Brady. Wait, who's that? That's a reference. That is a reference
                                         
                                         musical improv. Wayne Brady. Yeah, he hasn't done that in years.
                                         
                                         Yeah, let's keep it rolling. Shut it down, Dan.
                                         
    
                                         Let's get it rolling. Shut it. Yeah, thank you. Shut it down.
                                         
                                         I'm just doing it to myself, Dan.
                                         
                                         Yeah, that was a stupid thing to have and even like the auto tuned movie scenes
                                         
                                         I thought I was gonna hate but I kind of enjoyed a little bit and the musical number. I just thought was stupid
                                         
                                         Yeah, it's well didn't Randy Newman do a musical number?
                                         
                                         They performed the best song nominees. I don't like that, but they're gonna do it every year
                                         
                                         So I would rather they do that than whatever they did last time though where they just do like a
                                         
                                         Mottly, yeah They had a smash up.
                                         
    
                                         I can't remember.
                                         
                                         It was bad.
                                         
                                         I'll remember those.
                                         
                                         The castically get up there and jump around the kids.
                                         
                                         I mean, if you're going to nominate something where you can literally show the entire nominated
                                         
                                         thing, you know, and it's a performance of some kind, go ahead and do that.
                                         
                                         I don't mind having songs break up.
                                         
                                         Except it was better this year when they did best score
                                         
    
                                         They didn't have dancers. That's true. That's always been bad in the past. It was good that they didn't do it this time
                                         
                                         That almost makes up for the fact that the theme of the that the theme of the night was
                                         
                                         Best picture winners that aren't really that great as movies. Yeah, they managed it
                                         
                                         They're like let's like a bet. Let's take a look back at some of the most amazing best picture winners
                                         
                                         Gone with the wind Titanic L.O.T.R. Return of the King
                                         
                                         Like it was almost like they were trying so hard to be like see we give this award to movies you guys like
                                         
                                         No, people go to these movies. Yeah, it's not all hurt lockers is
                                         
                                         If they were gonna yeah if they were gonna do a
                                         
    
                                         Journey through American cinema like they might as well have just
                                         
                                         In the yes, birth of a
                                         
                                         As well just get us in to the Oscars for that like no one was gonna notice like no one of the audience like
                                         
                                         These are not Oscar winners. They're just be like oh these are great movies
                                         
                                         American's the bad guys in it
                                         
                                         I don't know what time it's not even an American movie. The American's the bad guys in it.
                                         
                                         No, really.
                                         
                                         But yeah, you're right.
                                         
    
                                         It's go through good movies of the past
                                         
                                         and remind people that they like movies.
                                         
                                         Well, that's what the Oscars are about anyway.
                                         
                                         Just reminding people that they like movies.
                                         
                                         Like, hey, you know what I like movies.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Ultimately, the Oscars aren't advertisement for movies.
                                         
                                         So they don't need to be so, they don't need to wait.
                                         
    
                                         They don't need to be tied to the brand.
                                         
                                         They don't need to waste their fucking time
                                         
                                         with 800 minutes of Bob Hoops ghost telling us jokes from 60 years ago
                                         
                                         that we he that we they already play on every Oscar tell me really glad they managed to fit a back to the future reference it
                                         
                                         But I think there's that I think they're required to but some kind of Faustian packed it literally a year late on that
                                         
                                         Mm-hmm last year was the 25th anniversary of Back to the Future would have made perfect sense. They always show some kind of a clip from Back to the
                                         
                                         Future though in like the visual effects like real and shit. Or they back to
                                         
                                         the future awards. Or the Christopher Lloyd Lime say he'd been award. He that
                                         
    
                                         reminds me. He was in Prana 3D. And so was Mr. Jero Connell and Jero Connell was
                                         
                                         robbed that he was not nominated for Best Supporting Actor this year
                                         
                                         for piranha 3D.
                                         
                                         It was really good.
                                         
                                         What was the nominees?
                                         
                                         There's some best support in bikinis
                                         
                                         in that film, am I right guys?
                                         
                                         Jerry O'Connell.
                                         
    
                                         Jeffrey Rush did not deserve that nomination
                                         
                                         as much as Jerry O'Connell did.
                                         
                                         All Jeffrey Rush had to do was kind of look bemused
                                         
                                         and say like, oh, well, perhaps we'll help you this way,
                                         
                                         you know, in King's Speech.
                                         
                                         I would say that.
                                         
                                         Yeah, but I like Jeffrey rush
                                         
                                         I like him. I think he's really good. What was I saying? I like that movie where Paul Rubens farts at his face
                                         
    
                                         That mystery men
                                         
                                         I forgot Paul Rubens is in that right after he rushes in that. Yeah, he plays cast in a
                                         
                                         Frankic style. I think of it as a Greg Keneer Hank is area of you know vehicle sure a West duty film
                                         
                                         as a Greg, can you hang his area of vehicle? Sure, a West duty film.
                                         
                                         Mainly one of West duty's better films.
                                         
                                         What's this point about mystery men is they left out the best mystery man character
                                         
                                         of the strangler.
                                         
                                         I'm not aware of the source material.
                                         
    
                                         He's from the flaming carrot comic books.
                                         
                                         So what were we talking about?
                                         
                                         So you got West duty was not for the best sporting anchor.
                                         
                                         Jeffrey Russ.
                                         
                                         Anyway, Daniel, you were in the same level of the wild back then.
                                         
                                         I am not.
                                         
                                         I'm sorry, lost to history.
                                         
                                         That thought it's here and it's gone.
                                         
    
                                         I guess the most thing is, Posters.
                                         
                                         Ben Grimsby was nominated, I think.
                                         
                                         Posters, see you next year.
                                         
                                         Yeah, I thought I think overall I would call this a I would actually say it was a good good Oscars.
                                         
                                         Oh,
                                         
                                         to bring back our rating system.
                                         
                                         Yeah, I'd go that far.
                                         
                                         Keeping in mind that the Oscars can never really be any better than like a beam.
                                         
    
                                         It can never be truly good.
                                         
                                         Yes, the only way they could be truly good is if they were not them.
                                         
                                         They were something else entirely.
                                         
                                         It's like if like the best thing.
                                         
                                         I'm gonna make a singleer. Yes, exactly.
                                         
                                         If like, there was like a melee where the celebrities were forced to
                                         
                                         fight each other, that might have been an interesting oscar.
                                         
                                         It sounds more refined.
                                         
    
                                         Well, maybe, I'm actually just lacing up the lights or tech.
                                         
                                         I think that would be fun.
                                         
                                         Yeah, I'm going to probably have some heart attacks.
                                         
                                         Yeah, I'm going to tie it to the, I mean, the Golden Globes is here.
                                         
                                         I found very entertaining because I've found Raheager phase making everybody uncomfortable
                                         
                                         really entertaining.
                                         
                                         Um, so that's not the, but that's not the purpose of the Golden Globes.
                                         
                                         Yeah, but I still enjoyed it.
                                         
    
                                         I found it entertaining.
                                         
                                         It's the same way that like if someone gets really drunk at a wedding and throws up everywhere,
                                         
                                         it's pretty funny, but like that's not what's supposed to happen at a wedding.
                                         
                                         Yeah, but I would have liked somebody throwing up
                                         
                                         at these Oscars.
                                         
                                         I guess Ellie is saying he's mad at you
                                         
                                         for throwing up at his wedding.
                                         
                                         You didn't, he said it wasn't a problem.
                                         
    
                                         I was trying to be nice.
                                         
                                         And then you threw up more.
                                         
                                         I was looking bullshit.
                                         
                                         I wasn't giving you a license to
                                         
                                         throw up in the middle of the dance floor
                                         
                                         after you did in the corner of the room. You kept telling me to do shots. You made me to
                                         
                                         third piece of cake. I don't know why. I thought you wanted it. I was sweating.
                                         
                                         You see, you see, you was so hot in there. You didn't turn the air conditioning on
                                         
    
                                         even though I asked like five times. I was hoping people would get really hot
                                         
                                         from dancing and it would turn into like a dance club party. Okay, well, I
                                         
                                         guess we have stuff to go over.
                                         
                                         I was hoping you would sweat out the alcohol, but apparently that didn't work.
                                         
                                         No, human biology.
                                         
                                         We'll talk about that.
                                         
                                         Like, so I do have a couple of letters here from listeners letters.
                                         
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                                         I thought it was about the Teddy Rushman 2000 Oscar season.
                                         
                                         Yeah, why is it Teddy Rushman 2000?
                                         
                                         Yeah, because it's 2000 years in the future.
                                         
                                         Oh,
                                         
    
                                         there's no relation actually to the original pay
                                         
                                         Rob's Teddy Rush has been, they been, it's a strange coincidence.
                                         
                                         I have the same idea.
                                         
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                                         Any of you are saying?
                                         
                                         We're going to.
                                         
                                         Dear floppers.
                                         
    
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                                         Oh, that's good, because we're not
                                         
                                         going to pay you for the pants. Okay.
                                         
                                         But he has an actual question and his question is this, is there a movie you used to love a lot and as you've grown older
                                         
                                         you realize that the pretentious piece of shit and can't stand to watch it anymore. For me it's got to be
                                         
                                         Bodies Rest in Motion with Phoebe Kate's Bridgetfonda Tim Roth and Eric Stoltz. When I was in high school in college
                                         
                                         I thought it was the height of genius
                                         
                                         and restrained symbolism and meaning.
                                         
    
                                         I forced my friends to wash it all the while going,
                                         
                                         all the while going, see, isn't that fucking genius?
                                         
                                         Now I know the truth, it sucks.
                                         
                                         Just wondering what you guys' bicks were
                                         
                                         for used to be greats.
                                         
                                         By the way, I enjoyed when guests are on,
                                         
                                         but the flop house truly shines
                                         
                                         with the fab four of Dan Stewart,
                                         
    
                                         Elliott, and the flop house house guy. Those are the shows I actually really appreciate that when I sell them.
                                         
                                         So he just walked out of the room.
                                         
                                         He comes and goes and plays. He really knows he's the star.
                                         
                                         Sometimes he's just walking by carrying a plate with a cheese sandwich on it,
                                         
                                         just leans over towards the microphones and right yowls and then walks away.
                                         
                                         Not even an appropriate time. No.
                                         
                                         You know to answer your question I don't know if I'd say I thought it was really
                                         
                                         deep but a movie that I used to love and then I recently bought it on DVD because it was
                                         
    
                                         re-released is LA confidential and on watching it kind of recently
                                         
                                         it's kind of slower like the pacing isn't quite as good, and like
                                         
                                         it feels cheaper than I remember it feeling like. Maybe it was because in between I had
                                         
                                         read the book, but yeah, it feels like the world is less believable than I originally
                                         
                                         thought. It looks like everything's made out of paper now.
                                         
                                         Like the set seems strange.
                                         
                                         Like it just doesn't work for me anymore.
                                         
                                         I think this is not a movie that I love by any means,
                                         
    
                                         but it's a movie that I liked when I was a teenager
                                         
                                         and was much more susceptible to angst.
                                         
                                         Like I think this is in the spirit of body's rest in motion.
                                         
                                         Like at the time, I remember enjoying pump up the volume.
                                         
                                         And now, like, that is the biggest, like,
                                         
                                         pile of horseshit ever to be like,
                                         
                                         stuffed down, like, a grumpy teenager's throat.
                                         
                                         Like, that is just a bunch of nonsense.
                                         
    
                                         That movie.
                                         
                                         I mean, it's no cuffs.
                                         
                                         It is no cuffs. Cuffs is a delightful bup of the Hills Cop rip off. I mean, it's no cuffs. There is no cuffs.
                                         
                                         Cuffs is a delightful bup of the Hills Cop rip off.
                                         
                                         I mean, this is hard for me to say.
                                         
                                         I want to talk about cuffs in more detail later.
                                         
                                         This is hard for me to say, but I guess I'd have to say
                                         
                                         the Dr. Hewoy's movie is.
                                         
    
                                         No, I actually, it's a good question.
                                         
                                         I'm wrong enough to think about more.
                                         
                                         A movie that I watched recently, and I still liked a lot,
                                         
                                         but I didn't love it as much
                                         
                                         was the Dark Crystal, which as a-
                                         
                                         Wow, I can't believe that you still like it at all.
                                         
                                         As a kid, I adored it.
                                         
                                         Watching it again as an adult, I really like a lot of the monsters in it, and I like a
                                         
    
                                         bunch of the scenes in it, but it just doesn't hold together the same way that it once did.
                                         
                                         And I have always hated the main characters, so that didn't help that.
                                         
                                         It was hard-
                                         
                                         It was creepy looking. I think I've been on record as saying that didn't help that. It was hard to be looking.
                                         
                                         I think I've been on record as saying,
                                         
                                         they look like the drawings of pedophiles.
                                         
                                         There's something like this,
                                         
                                         it's a very strange look to them.
                                         
    
                                         And as much as...
                                         
                                         So I guess I'll be changing my Halloween costume.
                                         
                                         Thanks, Dan.
                                         
                                         And as much as I hate to say it,
                                         
                                         I've mentioned to you earlier,
                                         
                                         I think if I watched Brazil now,
                                         
                                         I haven't seen it since college,
                                         
                                         and I first saw it in high school school and I watched a lot since then.
                                         
    
                                         And I think I would not love it.
                                         
                                         I don't think I would be as amazed by it as I was when I first saw it.
                                         
                                         I think that Brazil holds up. I think that the Fisher King doesn't hold up that well.
                                         
                                         Well, I think that Brazil, I mean, it's kind of ripping off repo men.
                                         
                                         Zing!
                                         
                                         And also, and I would say... Say that repo men. Zing! And also, and I would say-
                                         
                                         Save that repo men.
                                         
                                         A movie I just don't like as much anymore is Dr. Strange Love, which when I was younger
                                         
    
                                         I liked a lot and now I find it.
                                         
                                         Alright, you know, it's okay.
                                         
                                         I haven't seen that in years.
                                         
                                         When I first saw it, that was one of my favorite movies ever.
                                         
                                         Yeah, I used to love it, but, you know.
                                         
                                         And the great bikini off-road adventure actually has gotten better over the over time.
                                         
                                         Makes it reappearance.
                                         
                                         I hear you're gonna say, since the advent of the internet seems like there's a lot less
                                         
    
                                         nudity in that film than I originally thought.
                                         
                                         Yeah, but that's part of the joy is teasing out those little bits of nudity.
                                         
                                         I find that there are more movies that I didn't like and I watch them again and I like them
                                         
                                         more than vice versa
                                         
                                         Hmm like or movies that I come to appreciate more like when I was a kid
                                         
                                         I didn't like the movie meet me in St. Louis at all
                                         
                                         But when I watch it now, I really love it like it's a really good movie and a really good musical
                                         
                                         I actually find that my thing was when I was a younger I had a lot more time to
                                         
    
                                         My thing was when I was younger, I had a lot more time to watch classic films, just like just time on my hands to watch that classic. And also, I was more open to watching more challenging movies because...
                                         
                                         Like straight talk?
                                         
                                         Yes.
                                         
                                         Straight talk time.
                                         
                                         Starting Dolly Parton.
                                         
                                         Like another steakhouse?
                                         
                                         Jameswood.
                                         
                                         No, no.
                                         
    
                                         But I would also watch more challenging movies
                                         
                                         when I was younger because I didn't have the pressures
                                         
                                         of living an adult life.
                                         
                                         And so I can enjoy that.
                                         
                                         And now I find myself actually turning into
                                         
                                         a stupider person slowly when it comes to my movie
                                         
                                         consumption, where I really will, on occasion,
                                         
                                         be one of those guys like, I don't want to watch the movie
                                         
    
                                         that I know is actually good. Let's see drive angry in 3d yeah but that's my shameful confession very shameful see I used
                                         
                                         to watch a lot more monster movies when I was younger so like we're trading places I yeah I saw
                                         
                                         a terror of trading places and so the second the second email has no...
                                         
                                         What? It's not signed, it says.
                                         
                                         Bill text.
                                         
                                         It says, Hey dear, I am for a decent man.
                                         
                                         As for me, I am a young Russian girl.
                                         
                                         Do you like Russian women?
                                         
    
                                         They are not just beautiful and smart, but very tolerant too.
                                         
                                         I love the Flopthouse house cat.
                                         
                                         Russian women value family and try to be with their husbands as much as possible. It's
                                         
                                         time to get to know each other. See you on Marigere Agency, Cherio. This seems to
                                         
                                         me like not a not a really male but rather an advertisement. That would have
                                         
                                         worked better if I hadn't broken up in laughter several times and my own stupid joke
                                         
                                         While reading what the folks going on
                                         
                                         I thought some Russian will say Stuart is currently applying some sort of salve to his knuckles in preparation for our soon punching Dan
                                         
    
                                         Trust me my skin is gonna go a lot smoother. Yeah. Trust me, my skin is gonna crack a lot less.
                                         
                                         See, the trick that Dan's going to employ is I'm gonna punch him a bunch,
                                         
                                         and then he's gonna wait till the very end and punch me in the back.
                                         
                                         Oh, you're gonna go down.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         But it's gonna be very boring until that point.
                                         
                                         It's gonna go for 15 minutes and you're just gonna hear commentators going,
                                         
                                         how can you take this punishment?
                                         
    
                                         They should stop the fight.
                                         
                                         Well, you're gonna do some crack?
                                         
                                         Now that that shameful chapter.
                                         
                                         Jump out a window onto a pile of garbage.
                                         
                                         It's over.
                                         
                                         I want to say, um...
                                         
                                         And that our long national email nightmare is over.
                                         
                                         I want to take a moment to say that I've put a donation button up on the website,
                                         
    
                                         because I do spend some money producing this podcast.
                                         
                                         It's surprising, I know, but there are bandwidth costs. There's movie rental costs.
                                         
                                         And Stuart and I do not kick anything.
                                         
                                         Other things. So, we steal from there.
                                         
                                         Actually, whenever we're here, we take something from his apartment.
                                         
                                         So, change, change dish.
                                         
                                         If you're in a place in your life where you can toss some money towards a stupid podcast. I'm not, I don't
                                         
                                         want people who are having or struggling in this account. At a time like this when the
                                         
    
                                         economy is booming. Yeah. Now I don't want anyone who's struggling to be giving us any
                                         
                                         money because really that would be stupid. If it's a choice between the flop house and
                                         
                                         your next meal, however, if you say you want a bunch of bucks on your Oscar poll, yeah, yeah, then say you're an eccentric millionaire.
                                         
                                         Okay, like a like a Scrooge McDuck maybe or better yet.
                                         
                                         Well, not better yet, but if anyone listening knows an eccentric millionaire who loves bad movies,
                                         
                                         they're introduced probably by Roger Corman. yep there introduce probably a bunch of the project or man the the
                                         
                                         the
                                         
                                         the
                                         
    
                                         and uh... and through the handy donate button at uh...
                                         
                                         the ww dot flop house podcast dot com they can uh...
                                         
                                         they can talk some of their eccentric millions are way
                                         
                                         and we mean like
                                         
                                         cuz they're eccentric not like
                                         
                                         a million
                                         
                                         the rules of the thing not like a million. I want these. I want something,
                                         
                                         you know, a million crazy books. Space books. Yeah. Oh, I don't know. I can take some
                                         
    
                                         space bucks. Okay. It'll be helpful in the future. What? I would love to see a really
                                         
                                         serious science fiction movie where they just call the money space books. I do. I do want
                                         
                                         to take everything. It's just it's a really well-made really philosophical
                                         
                                         science fiction movie but it's always like take a seat in that space chair. Are you ready for space lunch?
                                         
                                         I do want to take a moment to say that hey space friends thank you to two people who did donate. I
                                         
                                         don't want this to turn into a film spotting where it seems like half of the podcast is
                                         
                                         listing the names of people who donated or trained're train spotting. We're all heroin addicts.
                                         
                                         But, um, that'd be even worse.
                                         
    
                                         But I want to say thank you.
                                         
                                         Then we need more money.
                                         
                                         Thank you to Dean C. and Lou S.
                                         
                                         for tossing some money.
                                         
                                         Thank you very much.
                                         
                                         Thank you.
                                         
                                         Folks, you're the best.
                                         
                                         Speaking of delicious donations.
                                         
    
                                         Um, delicious donations.
                                         
                                         Yeah, delicious.
                                         
                                         What do you guys think of the chicken we had for Oscar night?
                                         
                                         It was pretty good, right? It was delicious
                                         
                                         So you're going to try and get done and that was not just chicken from Bensoners, Brooklyn
                                         
                                         So if you're listening not just chicken and Bensonhurst
                                         
                                         Mail us some chicken
                                         
                                         Over the email. It's delicious
                                         
    
                                         So
                                         
                                         Normally now we would do some recommendations, but I had an off topic story wanted to tell. I think I did.
                                         
                                         Well, I'm sold.
                                         
                                         Did you have an off topic story?
                                         
                                         I feel like one of you also had something that you wanted to do.
                                         
                                         You wanted to talk about coming in track previous, but we kind of talked about that before.
                                         
                                         Yeah, I think I burned myself up.
                                         
                                         Basically came down to complaining about sucker punch.
                                         
    
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Okay, well, so I want to tell you guys a story about the internet. Okay.
                                         
                                         So you discovered internet pornography again? Okay. I have that momentum disease. Yeah.
                                         
                                         Yeah. He had the Minim Black Eye disease. I call it Memento's disease. The same disease
                                         
                                         that Memento had. I've tattooed on my body, porn,
                                         
                                         by the internet.
                                         
                                         I'm excited every time I see it.
                                         
                                         Now, I, uh, this is, so I, I was chatting with my brother
                                         
    
                                         on a Gmail chat and the subject of Inspector Gadget came up
                                         
                                         because my brother, this is off top.
                                         
                                         He's obsessed with childish things as I am and he's older than I am
                                         
                                         But he was talking about how you know, so you figure as long as he's doing it. It's okay for you. Yeah, yeah
                                         
                                         As long as the as long as we maintain the same relationship between our ages, it's fine. Hey, one of you better not going to space. Yeah
                                         
                                         But bring back a bunch of space books
                                         
                                         No, that would be good. Yeah, yeah, no you should do an Astro shoes
                                         
                                         But my brother brought up how much he all had always liked the the score to Inspector Gadget and that you know
                                         
    
                                         I had waves and nostalgia come over me. I go to YouTube. I look at some Inspector Gadget-related
                                         
                                         videos on YouTube and nostalgia come over me. I go to YouTube, I look at some Inspector Gadget related videos
                                         
                                         on YouTube, and I scroll down to the comments section, and one comment on one of the Inspector
                                         
                                         Gadget related videos catches my eye, and it simply says, what if Penny met a dinosaur?
                                         
                                         And in all like small letters, there was something sort of plaintive about it that caught my eye like I found this
                                         
                                         Particularly be galling someone anybody listening to me
                                         
                                         What if pain
                                         
                                         Metadinosaur my message in a bottle a question
                                         
    
                                         By canonical Inspector gadget certainly not by Deak the animation studio that did Inspector Gadget.
                                         
                                         So I post about this actually on Facebook.
                                         
                                         And I post about the What if Penny Mededinos or comment on Facebook.
                                         
                                         And this is a firestorm of Inspector Gadget commentary erupts.
                                         
                                         But my friend Kelly says, you know, like that she thinks that if you plugged,
                                         
                                         the phrase, What if Penny Medadise or into the internet, then you would reach the end of the internet. And so I actually Google this. You know, I Google what if Penny metadise?
                                         
                                         Your job really absorbs you. You get full satisfaction from it.
                                         
                                         And I find when a job becomes a career really
                                         
    
                                         called the terminus as the wheel so following this
                                         
                                         this train you know it's like all the president's man i'm following the money
                                         
                                         but i'm following the following the you're following the penny
                                         
                                         yet for the point during so i click on another link that google
                                         
                                         cost up for me
                                         
                                         and it is uh... it appears to be some sort of bondage-inflected
                                         
                                         illustration of an older penny. You know, what's the rule? If it exists,
                                         
                                         there's pornography related to it. It's like a rule of 34.
                                         
    
                                         Yeah, I think so. I'm pretty easy on that.
                                         
                                         Now this is like an internet meme. Like like if it exists, there's pornography. So, but there's a bondage themed photo
                                         
                                         and I scroll down like wondering why?
                                         
                                         Like a photo or a, not photo, sorry.
                                         
                                         It's an illustration, it's a cartoon
                                         
                                         that someone's strong style, like Ashkan school
                                         
                                         or what, you know.
                                         
                                         I don't know, it's an older penny tied up.
                                         
    
                                         Great tone, great tone.
                                         
                                         But I scroll down to the comment section of this
                                         
                                         because of course this has
                                         
                                         comments and in the comments someone who says what if penny metadine so so what
                                         
                                         you thought was a kind of adorable plaintive cry turns out was a request for
                                         
                                         bondage themed post-election anymore so I go I go back to the Google search I
                                         
                                         click on the next one down same Same site, a less disturbing picture illustration of Penny.
                                         
                                         I'll make a scroll down.
                                         
    
                                         She's doing better.
                                         
                                         I scroll down and again, what if Penny met a doctor?
                                         
                                         So now I am intrigued by this guy.
                                         
                                         I click on this guy's view.
                                         
                                         You're ordering dangerously close to an obsession
                                         
                                         that will lead you into a web of deceit and Seduction it's gonna leave me to fear not calm
                                         
                                         No, I like this dungeon
                                         
                                         So I click on this guy's username and I find like this I love games
                                         
    
                                         Storing Dan I click on this guy's username and I get this message that says
                                         
                                         This user has been permanent permanently banned from this site. Wow. For I assume asking too much about Penny and this fucking dinosaur. Yeah.
                                         
                                         You asked the wrong questions. You made some powerful enemies on the Penny bondage site.
                                         
                                         You followed the money trail. Yeah. So guys, I, to me, as you're saying, is don't go chase
                                         
                                         the waterfalls. What I love throughout this whole experience though was like peeling back the layers of the
                                         
                                         onion. There was always something there's always something new to discover.
                                         
                                         So are you plugging me in a fucking kid detective? Like what?
                                         
                                         And let's look at what you discovered.
                                         
    
                                         You discovered that there's inspector gadget themed bondage porn site and that
                                         
                                         someone has irritated the moderator of this site.
                                         
                                         Fuckin' congratulations dude.
                                         
                                         You're acting.
                                         
                                         Yeah, you're a real-
                                         
                                         You're a real-
                                         
                                         You're a real-
                                         
                                         You're a real-
                                         
    
                                         You're a real-
                                         
                                         You're a real-
                                         
                                         You're a real-
                                         
                                         You're a real-
                                         
                                         You're a real-
                                         
                                         You're a real-
                                         
                                         You're a real-
                                         
                                         You're a real-
                                         
    
                                         You're a real-
                                         
                                         You're a real-
                                         
                                         You're a real- You're a real- You're a real- You're a real- You're a real- Dad the police chief can't tell anyone about his genius detective son
                                         
                                         Man you guys started to say the beauty of this guy because you know when you start turning over rocks you're gonna find some
                                         
                                         Find some snails. Yeah, that's for sure
                                         
                                         It was a fitting story for this bad movie podcast
                                         
                                         But guys seriously I guess what I'm asking is I guess ultimately though what I'm asking is what if Penny met a guy's sore because that commenter was me bump bump bump
                                         
                                         Yeah, I don't know what happened
                                         
    
                                         What if I don't know that I mean probably eating by the
                                         
                                         night? It depends on the kind of dinosaur. Yeah, well,
                                         
                                         Bronnus sore is probably wouldn't eat her. Yeah, yeah, it would eat
                                         
                                         vegetables vegetables. Yeah, yeah, veggies. Yeah, depends on the kind of time that's yeah well brought a source probably would need her yeah yeah it would eat a vegetable vegetables yeah yeah
                                         
                                         yeah vegetables less like unless she and fucking brain were dressed up as like a tree
                                         
                                         or something which who knows one of Inspector Gadget's employees might have gotten
                                         
                                         made that happen yeah brain always had to hide in costumes
                                         
                                         there's the site of a site of a dog would destroy him then Inspector Gadget would say
                                         
    
                                         it's a mad agent and then then thenacky Hygiene's wouldn't sue you guys.
                                         
                                         And Don Adams would deposit the check in his bank account and then go on to do some Wendy's
                                         
                                         commercials.
                                         
                                         Yes, he.
                                         
                                         Anyway, so that's my story.
                                         
                                         Whew, that's not really your story.
                                         
                                         That was like, it's part of humanity's brand of your story when I write a screenplay about it.
                                         
                                         There's like an H.B. Lovecraft story where someone's reading
                                         
    
                                         through like journal entries left behind, except instead of a
                                         
                                         monster, it was the dumbest question ever asked.
                                         
                                         Okay, so we've wasted so much time on this that I mean like if we're
                                         
                                         gonna do, I mean wasted.
                                         
                                         That's a harsh way to put it. Yeah, what's going on? I don't know whether we should even do recommendations. Well save him for next time. Let's save him
                                         
                                         I do want to I do want to do a plug though before we leave
                                         
                                         If you fucking plug this
                                         
                                         Bondage Kenny website. I'll fucking kill you. It's the deviant art now
                                         
    
                                         The plug is for
                                         
                                         I just did a guest spot on another podcast that will be released this Friday.
                                         
                                         So, shortly before this Friday. Yeah, it drops this Friday, shortly before this podcast actually gets put out.
                                         
                                         So, it will be time you hear this, it'll be there. Yeah, it'll be available for you. It's called Read It and Weep.
                                         
                                         It's this podcast that is actually a bad book podcast.
                                         
                                         It's a comments podcast.
                                         
                                         And for this bad book podcast, I had to suffer through the audiobook of City of Bones'
                                         
                                         Mortal Instruments. And it's actually not finished. I suffer through the first half because it's
                                         
    
                                         a long enough book that this podcast is going to be split into two. I'm going to be recording two separate episodes. But
                                         
                                         the first City of Bones Mortal Instruments podcast has me as a guest. So I will
                                         
                                         put a link to read it and weep on our website flopphousepodcast.com.
                                         
                                         How convenient, thank you. Yeah. Guys, do you have anything you want to plug?
                                         
                                         This will, this will, I know you showing desk to rise again, but this is going to go after
                                         
                                         that. I will just plug my movie series closely watch films for anyone in New York. First
                                         
                                         Wednesday of every month at 92. I try back a 200 Hudson Street, Manhattan. It'll be too
                                         
                                         late to have seen desk to rise again by the time this airs, but in April 6th I will be showing
                                         
    
                                         the Fritz Lang spy thriller Ministry of Fear with Ray Meland where Ray Meland is released from an
                                         
                                         insane asylum wins a cake at a county fair and then is chased by Nazis who want that cake
                                         
                                         and it's a really fun movie and I'm trying to get a special guest for it but I don't have them yet
                                         
                                         so I don't want to say who it is. But that'll be the first Wednesday in April.
                                         
                                         And I want to briefly promote March 19th.
                                         
                                         There will be a delightful Purrum party
                                         
                                         here in Park Sloan, Brooklyn.
                                         
                                         Yeah, whenever Purrum is.
                                         
    
                                         At Charlene's bar on Flatbush Avenue,
                                         
                                         I totally recommend going,
                                         
                                         because I'll be there and maybe I'll drag these two guys along.
                                         
                                         So I feel like full way to spend there.
                                         
                                         Yep, Dan can dress up like, Heyman, and we can throw things at it.
                                         
                                         Yeah, this is a Jewish holiday Dan is just learning of now.
                                         
                                         I've heard it spoken of.
                                         
                                         No, nothing about it.
                                         
    
                                         Well, I'll tell you the story of Esther and Heyman.
                                         
                                         I think Ellie might be helping us judge, do the costume contest, Judging.
                                         
                                         Yes, if I'm not, I may be returning from Paris that day,
                                         
                                         but if I'm not, then I will be judging,
                                         
                                         helping judge the costume contest.
                                         
                                         And I hope I am judging the costume contest.
                                         
                                         OK, now what do we do?
                                         
                                         Well, now we sign off.
                                         
    
                                         Four of the flat-house.
                                         
                                         I'm Dan McCoy.
                                         
                                         I'm Stuart Wellington. I'm Ellie Kellen. Guys. steward Wellington. I'm Ellie.
                                         
                                         No, there was a sad ending. What's going on? I was trying to go for a pa- I want to get a best actor.
                                         
                                         I'm into the pot- potdies. What if Penny met a dance?
                                         
                                         Here we go again.
                                         
                                         What if he feels like he needs to hip or hop?
                                         
                                         I would give you the opposite of the normal advice which is don't stop.
                                         
    
                                         I would say stop immediately.
                                         
                                         What if he has to pop or lock?
                                         
                                         Which should he do?
                                         
                                         You should lock.
                                         
                                         You're being uncharacterously quiet Stewart.
                                         
                                         I'm trying to remember all my M&M racks.
                                         
                                         You mean wraps about M&Ms?
                                         
                                         Yeah, where those two M&Ms wrap about that one green M&M they want to folk.
                                         
    
                                         You mean wraps about M&Ms?
                                         
                                         Yeah, where those two M&Ms wrap about that one green M&M they want to fuck.
                                         
