The Frank Skinner Show - Accidental Gorpcore
Episode Date: April 17, 2026Frank and Emily are joined by Steve Hall! This time Frank has been disappointed by the menu in a themed cafe and has managed to make an unknowing fashion statement. Steve has also had an interesting n...ight out and have the team ever dined and dashed? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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It's Frank off the radio.
It's the Frankskinner podcast, don't you know?
Imagine I'm in love with you.
It's easy because I know.
I've imagined I'm in love with you.
So anyway, this is Frank off the radio.
I'm joined by Emily Dean and Steve Hall.
Yep.
Is with us today.
Hello.
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That sounded quite Trumpy and I like that
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Yeah, that's good. I liked him.
I'm loving Steve's look today because he's gone for a short-sleeve t-shirt,
what I call Coach Driver's Sheik.
Yes, I have.
Yes.
Short-sleeve shirt.
Love a coach-driver shirt.
I think we should have handwritten signs that we're holding of,
like at the darts.
Steve's in a short-sleeve shirt.
I've got several short-sleeve shirts,
and I'm very fond.
off. My wife detests a short-sleeve shirt.
Why is that? She's bullied me out of wearing them. I don't know why.
Look, they can work. Sometimes they can be a bit Neil Hamilton doing an outside press conference.
Do you know what I mean?
Neil Hamilton has... The former disgrace the MP.
Did he wear a short-sleeve shirt? He was very into a short-sleeve.
Because he couldn't do leisure wear or t-shirts, so he'd wear a stiff formal, but his
concession to the hot weather would be, I'll put one of my short-sleeve shirts on.
I feel like I should take this off now
We're going to compared to a coach driver
We did do it once on the radio
You got me to disrobe
For some reason
Was I there?
Yeah, yeah you were there
It was quite a moment
I think I was in the spirit
Who are always on the radio
You were all right
I got you to disrobe
You got me to take my top off
Not enough enough in themselves
A fantasy
At least I think we were recording at the time
Sorry
In what possible universe
Would sleep have a fantasy
close quotes, of Frank Skinner.
I don't think that's a searched for thing on adult sites.
If you said to me, someone you know has got a fantasy
that you made them take their top off.
Steve would be in my top five.
Can I just add that I do love the shirt?
And that was me being nice.
I could have just said I would pick Steve.
But I thought I'll soften the blow.
I'll add a bit more water, a bit less ribina.
Add the extra four in.
But I actually love this shirt because it's got a missing pocket seam and I enjoy that.
Yes.
I'm a big fan.
This is an eBay job, this.
Don't take coach, driver chic in the wrong way.
Trust me.
Well, interesting, because Frank has given me fashion advice.
You thought it was worth buying off eBay?
Wow.
Yeah, I've got to accept things never really worked out for me.
It looked like a shirt that you bought when you got into a shop to buy something else.
That's what I thought to.
Oh, my God.
What did you do, though?
You're going to Primark to look at their stranger things,
and then you see that and think,
too good.
I'm fond of it on an eBay search term,
dead stock, 70's dead stock.
That's how some describe me.
Yeah.
70s dead stuff.
So things that were never bought,
where they were on sale,
and so they're still in the cellophane
that they were wrapped in in 1971.
Oh, I bet that's brittle, isn't it?
And a stink of cigarettes as well.
All the stink of bags.
They smoked in factories back there.
Massively flammable a lot of the time as well.
I would only go to eBay for clothing if I was desperate.
No, I like eBay, but I go with a specific mission.
So, for example, Zara come at the Frog,
embroidered cardigan for a 2012 collection.
Okay.
Would you do the same?
I might go for a t-shirt of an obscure figure.
Yes.
Yeah, but I wouldn't go for a blue short-sleeve shirt.
We're all different, Steve.
I mean, we might find out you're broke and we're laughing at you.
You were laughing at your poverty.
Which is wrong.
In terms of fashion, I was thinking about you last night.
I told you.
Because when we were on tour, there was a cap that I wore when we toured together.
Oh, God.
It was a present for my mum.
Was it a baseball cap?
No, it was like a sort of slightly like an Andy cap.
cap. I have it here just so you can see it.
Oh, I like those caps?
It's not like a peeky blinders.
They're a bit Guy Ritchie though, aren't they?
Are they bit Guy Ritchie on the estate?
The country estate?
Not when Steve Foyce.
But Frank said to me, he took me to one side and said,
he said, I love you, but I must tell you,
when you wear that cap, you look 20 years older.
He did not say that.
Did you genuinely say that, Frank?
You look like someone who might be questioned outside of school.
And I can't believe you said that to you.
Sometimes, you know, it's like if somebody's got something on their nose.
It's nice to tell them.
You can't go over to someone and say that makes you look 20 years older.
That item you've bought.
Well, again, I've put quite a lot of water in with the ribina.
And so just last night, I wore this.
I went to see the fabulous band, Idol Wilde, do a gig in Oxford last night.
Okay.
And I arrived away because it was raining, so I wore this as I was arriving at the venue, the security at the front of the...
I more wild sounds like the multiple choice I used to give my girlfriends.
Carry on.
And as I arrived, I paused because I was trying to work out which entrance to go through and the security below.
In this way, old timer.
Oh, wow.
A wild west.
Saloon they were plied out.
See this way, old tamer.
But then Frank, Frank did get it right then, didn't you?
So it was a moment ago, no, yeah.
It pains me to say it.
I walked in today with a coat that I'd put on because it was raining.
There was no fashion considerations at all.
And it was a last minute decision.
I already had a jacket on, but I thought, oh, it's raining.
I'll put that thing on, which I acquired really.
recently. God, I was, I got praise.
It's one of the best entrances you've ever made.
And I've seen you on tour a lot.
Yeah.
I would say.
Yeah.
That wasn't what I was thinking.
Oh, Frank.
Stop it.
I would describe it.
Firstly, you're so on trend because it's huge for 2026.
It's chic function.
Functional outerware is huge.
It's been bigger.
Yvesan Mara Prada.
And specifically, can I tell you there's something...
Can I just ask, was she function involved in the UAE, Iran peace talks?
Very practical bloke.
Oh dear.
Can I tell you what else you were demonstrating?
Go on.
Are you familiar with Norm Corps?
No.
Are you familiar, Steve?
Vaguely.
So Norm Corp, would you say Bill Gates would be probably one of an example of someone who wears a lot of Norm Corp.
It's chinos.
It's sort of quite bog standard clothes, polo shirt, quite a typical average guy.
What you displayed earlier was it's called Gorp Corp.
Gorp.
Do you know Gorp? The girls know it.
See, all I know is...
I'll tell you what it is in a minute.
I know clown core and goblin core.
Those are the only times have come across these words.
Can I suggest you don't start dressing like Goblin Cor.
Okay.
I don't want that.
Gorp Corp.
She never made the band, by the way.
She was like on the crew.
She wasn't very talented, but they found her a job.
And you can guess what it was from her nickname.
Oh, my actual God.
Gorp Corp.
Gorp.
As in G-A-W-P?
No.
G-O-R-P.
It stands for, you all know this because you're a hiker, Frank, and a walker.
I am.
It stands for, I think it's an Americanism.
It's good old raisins and peanuts.
Right?
And it's hiking trail.
It's the sort of thing you would take on a walk to give you sustenance.
Can I say I love raisins and peanuts?
What, do you like Gorp then?
I really do.
You like good old raisins and peanuts.
Yeah.
I mean, I've killed a few passes by accidentally with them.
but the wind's in the wrong direction
you can take out a peanut allergist from 50 yards
Well that's why this was coined
It was called Gorp Corp Corr
So it's referring to that sort of hiking sheet
Yeah it's that thing you keep in the pocket
For a bit of energy
Exactly
Okay
So anyway, you looked fabulous
So this has been reclaimed
Like a nuts
Nuts in May type tribute
Yes
And Maguchi did a collaboration with North Face
So it's all happening
You are you are?
You are, I'm going to call you a moment right now.
Goodness.
We could get you on the runway.
No, we couldn't get him on the runway.
Can I tell you how I got this coat?
Yeah.
My son, who's 13, he's doing the Duke of Edinburgh Award.
And he got this online.
He got this.
eBay.
He wasn't sure which size to go for.
So he went medium and large,
because he might be weighing layers underneath.
and their medium was plenty big.
So I had the other one.
That was my selection process.
But you know, that's why it looks good
because Buzz chose it.
It's the fish John West Select.
I think he just, it's true.
He just has an instinctive eye for these things.
And I think if you'd have chosen,
it might be a very different story, no offence.
Yeah.
And now I accept that.
He just knows.
Anyway.
Get him to choose all your clothes from now, one.
I'm not going to.
going to do that. Why? I can't just wear a band t-shirts for the rest of my life.
So, Steve, how's your life? Oh, good. I always get excited. When I come on this show,
because I do nothing most of my life, whenever I get invited to do this, my wife will immediately
be idle rather than wild. Yeah, exactly. My wife will always say, you better do something interesting.
So it's one of the few times I'm given license to go out. So that was why I was allowed to see Idlewild world last night, was
She said, well, you can't find something.
Oh, well, I don't feel you have to push yourself to the living.
It's a nice, excuse.
She thinks I'm on this show a lot more than I have.
Yeah.
Yeah, right, okay.
So, because I was allowed out into town, I thought I'll try and find a restaurant.
And I don't know.
I tried to get into a restaurant.
And I got put on the waiting list.
And I got a text from them yesterday evening.
And I don't know.
Are you dining alone?
You went to the sort of restaurant
that you have to go on a waiting list.
Again, we've talked about this in the past.
I once went to...
I'd go clown call.
Ronald McDonald.
I think I once went to claridges on my own
and you...
What?
And Emily said that it was the actions of a man
about to take out the entire restaurant.
Oh, God, sorry.
Sorry, Steve.
That sounds obvious an extreme woman, wasn't I?
And if you'd had your cap with you,
I'd assume you were going to be standing outside
with its alt-turned on the pavement.
But I got this text from the venue
and it's just the name at the end.
This threw me.
I might be completely incorrect and being thrown by this.
But the venue said,
hey, Steve, thanks for reaching out.
I'm afraid this Wednesday,
the restaurant will be closed during dinner
for a private event.
Please let me know if you have any alternative dates in mind,
though.
Kind regards, Thanos.
Oh, wow.
And I did not know that that was a name.
But I had this image of the baddie.
Yeah.
The clicked finger.
Do you know Thanos?
I'm assuming it's one of your comic books?
Is the bad guy from Avengers movies?
Okay.
Who wipes out.
Enjoy.
He wipes out 50% of the population with a click of the finger.
Has he got anger management issues?
Yeah.
Okay.
And so I had a real moment of going, is this a wind-up?
Is this a real thing?
Or has Thanos fallen hard of these days he clicks his fingers to summon a waiter?
It was really rude.
Yeah, exactly.
And what was the venue like?
So I've still not been.
What was he?
It's an Italian restaurant that I'd seen recommended.
All right, Billy Joel.
Is it a sort of mid-price chain?
Yeah, mid-price chain.
I knew it.
Recommended by Marina O'Lockland, a very good food writer.
Yeah.
Oh, you go to a food writer for a recommend.
I follow her on Instagram.
You're in town on your own thinking,
I would honestly go preet or something like that.
And you've got, hold on, I'll look up Marina O'Glockland,
see what she recommends, see if I can get on their waiting list.
Well, this is as a parent of a 10-year-old and an 11-year-old, life is bleak.
Life is nothing but bluey.
And my son watching the baseball on YouTube.
That was one of your last tour was called.
Wow. And you didn't even get in.
That's the Steve Hall story.
Of course he doesn't get in.
Where did you dine in the air?
I know, so this is for this evening.
Oh, so I've still...
So where are you?
So the world is your oyster?
The world is my oyster.
I'm sitting...
I'm sitting there.
I'm sitting the producers later.
Oh, my friend Andy Nyman's in that.
Yeah, it's a way.
It's the American actor Richard Kind is in it briefly.
The American.
Oh, I do enjoy.
So we need to...
Well, we need to find Steve a restaurant, Frank.
What would you recommend?
I've told you what I'd recommend.
I don't say some old take.
away thing. I like five guys personally.
I do. The kids love. We get a lot of five guys. That's
a treat for the kids. They really love it. Free peanuts.
Yeah, yeah. They can't.
Sorry, he goes to five guys for the free peanuts.
I do, I do love that you get back. I also love. That's the
extension of the gorg call. He can't get enough of peanuts.
Exactly. I just find Frank, when I go into five, I think don't complicate matters with
peanuts. I'm here for burgers. Why do they have the peanuts?
The best thing is the drinks where you just give in a plastic cup
and then you can make your own sort of cocktails.
You can have a little bit of peach tea and a bit of Dr. Pepper.
Oh, man.
I went into a restaurant the weekend and they sat us.
I tell what we did that.
Have you ever done this where you sit down, you all settle.
The waitress comes over.
You get your menus.
She brings a jug of water.
And then you think, should we go?
You know that?
And so you'll always be up at the table and say, we can't go.
No, she's really nice.
She's really nice, the waitress.
And I said, well, this is a weird.
Did you just not like the venue?
I tell you what I did.
I think they've gone a table too many.
It was a hotel.
Oh, yeah.
We were eating at a hotel.
Not our hotel.
Just went there.
And what they'd done, our table was so fucking close to the reception day.
There were people, there was like 20 Chinese people wheeling big suitcases.
And they had to do a bit of a curve to get around our table.
We were basically in reception.
Well, you're also sort of entertainment or something.
No, but we were too close to the desk.
I nearly ordered a morning newspaper.
Do people still do that?
Yes, I believe they do.
Yes, I think so, yeah.
Does people still order a morning wake-up call?
Or is the mobile phone white there?
I think they have to offer them, but what happens is you get an automated wake-up call.
It rings, it says, press three for your wake-up call, put the time in.
You don't get a man going, hello?
It is time you or owes.
Yeah.
But so, I said, come on, let's go.
And they were like a bit anxious about it.
And it's a bit, it feels like such a big deal.
It's like pulling out of the sale of a house.
It's like a breakup.
The waitress came back.
and said, yes, the chef can do you at a vegan Wellington.
And I said, we go in, actually.
And it was like, oh.
What did she say?
Does she look hurt?
I think we imposed her upon her.
Did you say it's because the table is not quite up to standard?
Look, you know, it's not my place.
Oh, you always say this, Frank.
Whenever we go to any restaurants and then, we should go,
oh, I don't want to make a fuss or...
No, I don't.
I'm happy to make a fuss.
But I've met a fuss in all sorts of restaurants.
But I don't know to say you should move this table
as too close to reception.
I like the idea of other people being putty
and not having the courage to leave.
It was quite liberate.
That moment of exit is quite liberating.
It is.
As a friend of mine, he was in a restaurant once
and the service had been terrible all night
and they'd been waiting something like an hour for their bill
and they'd ask several times.
And at the next table...
Can I give you a...
I find if you get up
people will come out for it and bring the bill quite pretty.
Is that right?
Because they think you're going to do a runner.
Well, this is what happened in this case was
at the next table over, by sheer coincidence,
it was the actor Richard E. Grant.
No.
Lento really said, I'm sorry, I couldn't help it over here what's going on.
Why don't you just leave?
And so they did.
They did a runner about paying encouraged by Richard E. Grant.
He's still got a bit of with nailing.
Yes.
Yes. Wow.
And got away with it and were thrilled.
And in many ways,
then it turned one of the worst meals he'd ever had
into one of his favourite meals because...
I don't think, I mean, that's a fantastic story,
but I've got to say,
I don't think I could ever do a runner.
Could you, have you?
Oh God, I did a runner once from Pizza Hot.
Oh my God, this is the most depressing story
you've ever told in your whole life.
I think is I was a school boy.
Who comes?
Who has to?
I was the school buyer.
I didn't have that kind of mind.
That's quite a weighty thing telling you got.
Sorry.
Why did?
What happened?
Anyway, so we ran, me and this, this mate of mine.
Wait, hang on.
What had you ordered?
A pizza reach.
Oh, I can't remember.
Oh, yeah, we don't have pizza.
But you'd sat down.
It wasn't as...
We ate, yeah, we ate it all and everything.
And then what happened?
And then we said, right, shall we do it?
Should we do the runner?
And we deliberately sat quite near the thing.
So we shot off.
And we got, we really tased off down the road.
It was quite crowded so we were able to bob and we, you know,
and hide our trailer a bit.
And we got to, got round the corner and my mate said,
oh, fuck, I've left my satchel in there.
As they're all great criminals of what said.
You know, you have that thing on the front of your satchel with your neighbour to dress on.
Also, my satchel.
But what really?
This hardly the brinks.
is it? I left my satchel. But when we got back, so we went back, you know, with our
tales between our proverbial. You had to go back to get the satchel? We had to get the satchel.
It had his name and address on it. And also, I think we had homework.
You didn't go in, did you? Oh yeah. I thought it was really brave of you, Frank.
You know what really pissed me off is the waiter came up to us when we walked in and he went,
you're fast but we're faster.
I thought it's got a fuck all to do with you being fast.
We were away.
You weren't fast.
We were leaving you in our dostriar.
We had to come back for his satchel.
And he must have been thinking of the Don Moe.
He must have been a bit of his Clint East from here.
No one out pizzas the hut.
Yeah.
I also like Frank doing his 12 angry men speech
about invoking the satchel.
So what happened? Did he say right, pay up now?
Yeah, we just had to pay.
So you had the funds?
That puts rather a different spin on it.
Yeah, I suppose we did just about.
But they could have been spent on better things than pizza.
Because the Daily Mail loves a dine and dash story.
Yes, they love a dine and dash.
Now that everywhere has got CCTV.
Oh.
Does it love a dine and d'clock?
Yes, they do.
We see it quite a lot in the sidebar a shame where there'll be some struggling
a gastro pub in the West
country.
They're getting a lot of...
Have you dined and da?
No, no.
No, me neither.
Well, as we returned into pizza hot,
I nearly was nearly knocked over
by a sprinting Richard E. Grant
I'm in the opposite direction.
Imagine if he was going round.
Just like causing trouble meddling.
I really think you should leave, you know.
Of course, I used to go around his house
once a month and we used to project our favourite
movies onto each other's foreheads.
Yes, he's got an impressive foreheads.
He's another one of the,
me and him could play two great aliens
in the film.
No makeup record.
I don't ever tell you about when I was,
went to Jonathan Ross's party as the Frankenstein monster.
I remember.
I was doing the TV show and the woman gave me some green paint.
She made me some bolts for my neck and stuff like that.
It's really good.
and I said, do you think I need one of those false head things?
She said, no.
In fact, I've still got a picture of us, so we will put it on the Instagram.
It's great.
That was one of your best ever costumes, Frank.
Oh, yeah, I mean, you can't go wrong, Frankenstein monster.
I did Dracula won you.
I mean, they're absolutely root one, haven't we, things.
Frankenstein's monster and Dracula.
Come on.
But the classics of their kind
They are
And the thing is for both of them
I was doing a TV show that week
So I got right the best look
You know
I had the proper
Dracula dress suit
You know and all that
Yeah that actually suited you very well
I mean it's no blue shirt off eBay
But what can you do?
No it isn't
Also on the restaurant front
I was in
Do you remember I told you
I was in Manchester
and we went to a place called Afflex Palace.
Actually, I wasn't there at the time.
My son and my wife went there.
Do you know it, Steve?
I don't.
Afflex Palace, you'd like it.
It's a kind of an emo emporium.
It's not anything to do with Ben Affleck.
No.
I don't think so.
No, calm me.
There's a man outside looking sad, smoking a cigarette.
There's lots of Batman stuff in there, to be fair.
Well, there you go, goodly.
There's lots of, you know, second-hand music.
goth clothing, goth stroke emo clothing and
an action figures, that's what I'm...
But there's a Star Wars themed cafe
which I really liked.
And they've got stained glass windows
with like Obi-1 Canobion and stuff.
It's really great.
Are there Star Wars characters wandering around?
Well, the man who runs it has got a big beard
which is not a particular Star Wars,
but he's got lots of Star Wars tattoos.
He's tattoo-eined.
But I was a bit, and I thought, I'm going to run this by Steve Hall
because he's the man for this.
Because I was a bit disappointed.
The food was great.
And it was a really nice experience.
So you can eat.
Yeah, you eat it.
It's called the Palace Cantina, and I would recommend it to anyone who's in Manchester.
But they haven't gone.
If I had that place, can you imagine what?
the ponds would be like on the menu.
Oh, yeah.
So they haven't really done that.
So I was thinking, I'll have a juice.
I'll start with a R2 detox.
Then they'll have a C3 piece pudding.
That's good.
For the main.
And then lay a cake for my dessert.
But there was none of that.
There's so much potential in there.
You've got me.
The Admiral Snack Bar.
Very brilliant.
I knew Steve had been there.
Can you rustle me up something to do with Chewbacca, Steve?
Because Sue Chewbacca is my favourite Star Wars character, as you well know.
What about Irish Dubangor?
Oh, yes.
There used to be an act on the circuit.
He performed under the name Draft Johnny Vader.
And he wore a Darth Vader helmet, but he just did pun.
He did Star Wars puns for 20 minutes.
Wow.
And it was things like, I can get cheap cigarettes.
I've got a friend of mine.
He's a Chewbacanist.
Oh.
And the thing is, for the first three minutes, it's great.
But for 20 minutes, it's a long time to spend if the audience aren't going with it.
I bet a hundred pounds if I had money that that man was Steve Hall.
It's all that there was this block on the seat.
Yeah, right there was.
It was a Darth Vader helmet and short-sleeved eBay shirts underneath it.
Exactly.
I don't believe.
So I was up there for a wedding in Manchester.
and my mother-in-law did a reading at the wedding.
How lovely.
And she said...
And she, we should say, Sandy Mason, one of my best friends,
she favours tattooing chic.
Yes, she does.
She's very Jedi.
She's very Jedi.
Lots of flowing rows.
Yeah.
So she got up to do a reading.
So she was doing a Neil Young.
lyric.
Okay.
Now, I don't know, I'm guessing,
because Steve is a big Muso guy.
Yes.
I'm guessing he likes Neil Young, do you?
Yeah, yeah.
I have been unable to distinguish in my mind
my whole life between Neil Young and James Taylor.
Right.
Do you know there are certain people who I just,
they just, they are like, what, conjoined?
Yeah, I know that.
I can't work.
Look, I'll be able to come up with others if you give me.
an hour.
Okay.
Don't.
But anyway,
Neil Young,
there was also
a player
who played for
Man City in the 60s
called Neil Young
and I thought
it couldn't be.
Anyway,
it's called the winning
goal in the 69
caught on if I remember rightly
anyway,
we'll go into that.
She was reading,
do you know this song,
Steve?
It's called
Harvest Moon.
I don't think I know that.
I have a cursory knowledge
of Neil
young.
It's not
shine on
Harvest Moon
No, it's not
that.
It's not,
I know
minor for a
heart of gold
that one.
And there's a
song he had
called,
there was just
him moaning
about a bad
car that he
bought that
just he goes,
it was a
piece of crap,
piece of crap.
Frank,
that sounds very you.
That wouldn't be
fitting.
Old man
moaning about things.
You've made that
up from one of
your reviews.
No, Frank,
that sounds so up
Frank Street.
Old man
moaning about things.
Yeah,
anyway,
so Sandy Mace
and my
mother-in-in-law
I had to read out the lyrics to Harvest Moon by Neil Young.
So I don't know Neil Young.
I know that I've been to Harley.
Is that him?
Yeah, yeah.
That's all I know.
Anyway, so she started, and I wrote it down.
So it begins, come a little bit closer, hear what I have to say.
I've not pretty standard so far.
Then it says, just like chicken sleeping, we could dream this.
night away. And I thought that is not a fantastic image. You don't really think of, but we used to
have chickens. They get up on their purchase when it starts to get dark. And the idea of their,
you know, those horrible purple, gossam earth eyelids coming down and oh, yuck. Yeah. And I thought it was a
really beautiful image. Just like chicken sleeping, we could dream.
this night away.
That's lovely.
And then Sandy said,
oh no, sorry,
just like children sleeping.
And I thought,
oh, no, the mistake is better than the real thing.
It was so good,
just like chicken sleeping.
I love chickens.
Oh, man.
Just in their sleep.
I was just on the train on the way here today
was listening to, because the new series of the poetry podcast has just landed this very day.
Great plug from Steve.
So I love the excitement you get when you, just listening to the podcast,
when there's a turn of phrase you particularly love.
So it was really nice seeing that from a yard away.
It's joyful.
And then to discover it was a mistake.
Just like chicken sleeping, we could dream this night away.
Oh, see, I sound...
I can smell them.
X-com.
Do you know what?
I'm very into
what I'm going to call
Sandy's version
like Taylor's version.
Yeah.
I love so.
No, Young.
Young's version,
not James Taylor.
No, you get it.
Is he married to Daryl Hannah?
Neil Young.
I'm pretty sure he's married
to Daryl Hannah,
the actress.
Is he really?
Who is?
Neil Young.
Is he really?
I thought he was with Carly Simon.
That might be James Taylor.
Oh, okay.
Will you please sort this out?
Because I remember saying in an interview in the NME,
James Taylor, Neil Young said,
of his wife, Carly Simon,
she's a piece of ass,
and if she looks at another man, I'll kill her.
Of course, these were different times.
You're absolutely right.
He is with Darrell Hanna.
Oh, he's not, who's with Carly Simon?
Maybe that's Paul Simon.
No.
Paul Simon's married to E.D. Brickle.
Paul Simon's been with them,
Who's married?
Carly, bloody Simon.
I think James Taylor was married to Carly Simon.
Yes. Oh.
What we will tell.
What's wrong with people?
Listen.
Stay with it.
James Taylor split up with Carly Simon in 1983.
Why do you hold it against such a grudge against him?
We're like a really out-of-date gossip column.
We're like TMZ.
I'm talking about relationships that began in 1972, right?
Yeah.
But I mean, the fact he described as a piece of ass,
he was never going to stick with her in the decline in years.
And obviously we know there was the, what we'll call the Warren business.
Oh, yeah.
Of course.
She's now admitted that, hasn't she?
It was about Warren.
I think she said it's like one of the verses is about him,
but I think there's other people who are in, who are.
Oh, they always say that to get away with it.
Because you know what we're talking about.
It's a song called Your Sovame by Carly Simon,
It's a real, it's one of the pioneering man-hating songs.
Obviously, it's a commonplace now.
It's the revenge song.
But there was lots of theories about who it was,
and a lot of people thought it was Warren Beatty.
And it is.
Okay.
Okay, so sorry if you're listening, Ryan, Warren, but that's where it is.
That's the way, as a friend of Steve's once memorably said,
that's the way it crumbles cookie-wise.
I still quote that
And I obviously quote you
I'm not a thief
But it was when you were getting a lift
Yeah yeah
It was a very earnest
Sort of admin person
Who was trying to explain
Some minor technical problem
It was going to leave us waiting five minutes
I'm afraid that's the way
Crumbles
Cookie White
I like him
I love him
I've since I think he nicked it
I think Jack Lemon's character
In the apartment says it
Oh, he turned out he nicked it from Jack Lemmon.
Why does he do that?
I had lunch with the TV executive and she said something like I didn't have children.
I feel it's like committing, you know, it's a real commitment.
It's like having a facial tattoo.
It's there forever.
And I thought that's a really interesting way I talked about.
Was it stolen?
I told someone about it and they said, I think that's from friends or something.
Oh, come on.
Which is what you have to say, there's a great line in friends.
It's a simple thing.
Simple as that.
You know what?
Simples.
That's a new thing I've invented.
Oh, is it?
That's good.
I was going to ask you about that smoking, Jackie.
You're wearing as well.
And you're sitting very upright today.
Very alert.
Have you noticed how thin my legs now?
Yeah.
You've lost a lot of your curvature.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
A rhubarb like, big.
Little wipid legs.
got now.
Yeah.
I wasn't going to bring it on, but here we are.
And I must wax, actually.
Well, that I definitely wasn't going to bring up.
Okay, okay.
But, yeah, simple.
Simples.
Can I say that the next episode of Frank Skinner's Radio Days is out on Saturday?
We've had to move it for my poetry podcast.
I mean, you know.
Fair enough.
And this episode, we're in 2013, and we're talking about childhood fears.
I think I've retained most of mine.
Yeah, he's still quite fearful.
Yeah.
Well, things like ghosts and stuff like, still scare the crap.
I mean, the potential of them.
Yeah.
Hmm.
But the best one ever was when my, I've said this before,
but we asked our nephew, my nephew, Elliot, said what?
That's the thing that, you know, your biggest fear, and he said Jacket Potato.
It's the Frank Skinner podcast.
A new winter change is blowing.
It's the Frank Skinner podcast.
I'm not totally sure how it's going.
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