The Frank Skinner Show - Fake Slang

Episode Date: April 28, 2025

Frank and Pierre are joined by Sara Barron! Frank has beento an unlikely gig, Pierre has brought a team quiz back from Australia, andSara has had a burrito dilemma. Learn more about your ad choices.... Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:26 Conditions apply to all benefits. Visit pcfinancial.ca for details. It's Frank off the radio, featuring him and that posh lady-o, and the one with the French name, who from South Africa came. They're all here, open brackets, hooray! Close brackets today. So this is Frank off the radio and I'm joined by Pia Novelli and Sarah Barron is with us again. Hello. Hello Sarah. Hello Frank. You can follow the podcast on X and Instagram. You can email.
Starting point is 00:01:01 I want to try and act this now make it more method you can Email the podcast fire, you know Frank off the radio at mavalon uk.com You can whatsapp us on 7457 417 769 what character are you being right now? I'm thinking I'm going a bit Goldblum. You know that thing that he sort of plays his language like a flute.
Starting point is 00:01:30 Are you a big fan? No. Me neither. That's why I'm asking. I've seen it. I've seen it. I've seen it. Now I've seen it.
Starting point is 00:01:39 Jeff, I've seen it. I think with Jeff, there are some people I I'm thinking, do you remember that, it was called something like The Brilliant Mind, and it was Russell Crowe playing- Beautiful Mind. Beautiful Mind, yeah. And you know, sometimes when you're watching a film and you think, a lot of acting. Oh yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's really too much, I can't breathe,, a lot of acting. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:05 Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's really too much. I can't breathe. There's so much acting. You're suffocated by the acting. Yeah. Do you remember as well at the very end when Jennifer, it's the very end, it's them like his senior citizens and he's receiving his reward, award.
Starting point is 00:02:19 And Jennifer Connolly is the wife who they've aged to look like she's now in her mid-70s. She's covered in putty. It really looked like a child, not a Hollywood makeup artist, but a child did. I want to make you look like an old lady. I remember my friend and I just laughing out loud in the theater. Six form play. Yeah. I don't remember that bit.
Starting point is 00:02:41 By then, the acting had driven me out of the cinema. I feel the same way about Jeff Goldblum now. Yeah. Well, that's why I bring it up. But when there's a lot of acting in anything, I feel like I've been in a cinema or a theater and the airbags have inflated and there's no room for me in any way because the acting has just swollen and swollen and it's gone into every corner. You know the stuff that you squeeze into your,
Starting point is 00:03:15 that gap between the walls that insulates. The expanding foam. Acting as insulating foam. Yes. If we don't get out of here now, we won't be able, we'll be lost in acting. How frequently do you feel like something is lauded? Missing in acting, as I think they say in the military. Oh Atlas.
Starting point is 00:03:37 I was thinking like how often do you, I'm always seeing things lauded, being like, oh my God, the acting. And I'm like, no, all I was doing was watching the acting. Show me the invisible stuff. That's what I want to see. Not you doing your best emoting you've ever done. You're getting a lot of that award acting where they're thinking, God, there's an award in this.
Starting point is 00:04:00 Yeah. Gather around. Just watch this. Yes, they're going to win an award, especially because they've sort of lost seven stone. They play a very thin character, or they've done a course in a language. That's why I got annoyed about Adrian Brodie winning that Oscar, because part of his accent had to be improved by AI. Well, then you don't get to win an acting award. Give it to the robot.
Starting point is 00:04:20 I don't know, because people win comedy awards whilst using writers. Isn't that the same thing? They should be forced to sort up the award. Person of contributed joke. Yeah. Yeah. So I went to a gig this week. Comedy? No. Metal? Music, not metal. I went a little out of my comfort zone, I'll be honest with you, further than I expected. What inspired you? My sister-in-law said, I've got a spare ticket for self-esteem. Oh, okay. I find when I wind up with spare tickets, it's a blow to my self-esteem.
Starting point is 00:05:02 Fantastic. And when I wind up with spare tickets, it's a blow to myself, it's a blow to you. Fantastic. People think, oh, am I getting Radio 4 on this now? You do it all. I'm about to hear the Arches theme tune, scramble to turn the thing off. Miles Jopper's burst into this like when an alien bursts into the television on a movie and says citizens of earth. Anyway, so I went to see Self Esteem. Are you familiar with the oeuvre? Yes. Okay. So I didn't really know her work, but I went, it was at a theater. I didn't think people like Self Esteem
Starting point is 00:05:46 played like West End theaters. I thought they were like, you know, Brixton Academy, the O2 arena type people. But she's making some sort of, like I've noticed that because it's actually very near a comedy club that I get all the time. So I was like, oh, Self Esteem is doing a West End run. So that's, do you know how many dates she's there for?
Starting point is 00:06:03 I think a week max. Okay, so it's some kind of like debut the album strategy that she's doing. It was a previous, a very clever idea. The album's not out, it's imminent. And it's called Complicated Woman, I believe. In France that many women are simple. Which I, you know, I, who am I to be offended? Sure.
Starting point is 00:06:33 But anyway, it was pretty amazing. Go on, tell me more, tell me more. I didn't know her work. She has, for a start-up, she has an incredible voice. Yeah. A very sort of lovable stage presence of combination of fragility, humor and rage. More of the rage later. But she's surrounded by these,
Starting point is 00:06:58 there must be like 15 women on stage who sing, dance and they're either in a sort of handmade tail type garb. Sort of armish looking. Yeah, armish looking and but gathered beautifully together and very striking visuals. They've all got fabulous vocals. One woman plays the trumpet. Now look I don't think I've ever spoken of this in public, but if there's one thing I like, it's a woman playing a brass instrument. What? It's the sexiest thing you could possibly have. Why that more than a percussionist or a guitarist or a drummer? I don't know. How do we know what happens inside that in a squelching?
Starting point is 00:07:42 I guess then what I'm asking is to confirm some woman just kicking the shit out of a drum set. That wouldn't do it for you in the same way. I don't mind. I told Karen Carpenter when she was a drummer, had a cute C60s sort of chick thing about her. But a woman on a full blown spit coming out the end trumpet. Wow. That's really amazing.
Starting point is 00:08:05 Do you associate brass instruments as, like, is it a sort of, you're a fan of sort of expectations being defined, tomboys? Brass instruments are traditionally very masculine, colliery band kind of stuff in the UK. Of course, I grew up with the Ivy Benson band, who was 1940s all-female jazz band. Really? Maybe that's the source. I remember as a small boy seeing them on Pathé News and thinking,
Starting point is 00:08:34 these are hot tomatoes. Ivy Benson herself, she sizzled. She was a sax player. I prefer a trumpet. You do? I do. On a woman. I like a good trumpet on a woman. Let me slip into something more cold and brass.
Starting point is 00:08:57 Yeah. Do you remember that bit in, is it called The Freak or some of that Steve Martin film? The Jerk? Oh, The Jerk. The Jerk. And she, there's a woman in there who starts playing the trumpet during lovemaking and he said, I loved it when you did that. He said, I wanted to go into the end of the trumpet and go through all the tubes and kiss
Starting point is 00:09:18 you on the lips. And she said, why didn't you? And he said, I didn't want to get spit on me. Anyway, maybe that's what did it, but I blame Ivy Benson. So all that looked great. It was part Handmaid's Tale. And then there would be scenes
Starting point is 00:09:37 that was like New York City gymnasium. So like black bra tops and black baggy shorts and people sitting around post exercise drinking from bottles of water and looking you know like they'd worked out hard. Was that equally erotic for you? Well there's not really the trumpet. You can't get erotic about the handmaid's tape. I would have said oh well you can't get erotic about a trumpet butid's tape. I would have said, oh, well, you can't get erotic about a trumpet, but you found a way. We're all different. Anyway, it wasn't an erotic show because this is from, I loved, she sang brilliantly, they
Starting point is 00:10:15 sang brilliantly. It was a lot of, um, men are pretty vile, monstrous, um, toads. I say men, I believe she's bisexual, so she was talking about vile and horrible partners and I remember thinking, I hope some of these are women, just for balance. I looked around, I just couldn't see any other one, anyone else that looked like a white heterosexual male. What was the gender demographic of the audience? Mainly women, some gay men, and me.
Starting point is 00:11:00 And no straight guys? At any point, I thought someone from the stage would go, hey, let's get a spotlight on this. What are you doing here? Yeah, what's your sexuality? I'm desperately trying to think of a gay crush. I've had recently. You better not have been enjoying that trumpet. Exactly. The only gay crush I could have come up with was Lawrence Fox,
Starting point is 00:11:21 which wouldn't have helped. I'm just a big fan of Lawrence Fox. Get out of here. That's even worse. Oh man, but it yeah, it was a shame because obviously I know I know the argument we've had it our own way for a long time, but I did think I was really loving this show and now I feel like a migrant at a reform convention. What point in the show did you switch from? a migrant at a reform convention. What point in the show did you switch from, so you go, so it's low, sort of low expectations you're joining your sister-in-law, sure let's have a night out.
Starting point is 00:11:53 I didn't know what to expect. Oh my God, wait, this is that, holy shit, this is actually amazing. Then it was amazing. This is amazing. It had a kind of a fabulous like musical theatre, watching cabaret the music. Yeah, I earthy Modern musical feel I saw her do something much more Conventional I just mean conventional in the sense of it was like it Kentish town forum or something
Starting point is 00:12:15 It's sort of where you expect to see a music. It was one of the greatest things I've ever seen. Well, there you go However, sometimes I'll I'll say it, maybe you'll cut it. But as the woman in the room... Can I just say we don't cut anything? You don't cut anything, great. So leave it in and let's just see what happens. Is as a woman who knows so many horrible men and so many wonderful ones... I know a lot of horrible men.
Starting point is 00:12:37 We all know so many horrible men, but sometimes if someone, be they male or female, feels that all men are horrible, I think to myself, I think something in your childhood made you drawn to horrible men. So you're not getting a real clear sense of the overall demographic. Isn't this where West Side Story starts? I always think that I think you're- It should be a good, if she'd done this song in the middle for balance. Yeah. You like to sing.
Starting point is 00:13:08 I thought maybe you'd join me at some point. No, I- But it was very improvised, I could tell you couldn't join me. This one, I don't feel I can join you. No, you can't join in. But I can feel like- Here's my one. I've never met a horrible woman in all my life.
Starting point is 00:13:19 They're all amazing. Here's my one. That was really good. I thought that was such a good song. He can stay. That's what they'd say from the From the God might now we'll just remove one ball It's a shame because I you know, I just thought oh I really wanted to love you more and you've rejected me But only in theory. Yeah
Starting point is 00:13:44 They did a thing now But only in theory. Yeah. Listen to the first- And also theory. They did a thing. Now, this is a good thing to bring up with an American on the show because I spoke about this recently. I went to see Mochadu About Nothing with Tom Hiddleston. Uh-huh. Okay. And he did the finger.
Starting point is 00:13:56 He gave people the finger. Yeah? Yeah. In the context of the play? Yeah. Okay. And the women of self-esteem, her posse, they did quite a bit of single finger. And I am a big devotee of the fuck, the fuck off V sign of UK tradition. And I'm saddened every time I see the finger given in a UK card.
Starting point is 00:14:33 I'm happy with Americans doing it. It's your history. As an American, so I just, when you were just talking about giving the finger, I did that. What do you even call this? Flicking the Vs. Yeah, flicking the Vs. And as an American who does that, do I... Do you do the V sign? Occasionally I do I love it there's certain Britishisms that's one of them the word pulling like oh he was
Starting point is 00:14:55 on the pole yeah we don't have a good equivalent for that and I was more like on the pole yes that says so much daft we don't have a great daft equivalent don't be daft. Am I embarrassing myself by doing this when it's not of me? No. I tell you what I do. We need moral. I don't really flick it.
Starting point is 00:15:12 I really hold it for, I tell you what I like to do. That's very aggressive, Frank. I like to, I've demonstrated my V sign. I like to feel cold air on the webbing between those two things. Yeah, that's nice. That's how long I like to hold cold air on the webbing between those two things. Yeah, that's nice. That's how long I like to hold the mic. Wow, because then I think it's much of a muchness.
Starting point is 00:15:31 I think this feels as aggressive as this. It's not that one's nicer. No, it's the one's that... It's just that one's native to the UK. It's like the red squirrel. I haven't... It's cultural appropriation. That's what it is.
Starting point is 00:15:46 Hold on. When was the last time in a serious way, bearing in mind you're a public figure, national treasure, that you gave someone... You flipped them the burn or whatever you would say. I wouldn't say that. But... Do you mean flick the Vs? Flick the Vs in a genuinely aggressive way.
Starting point is 00:16:02 I don't flick, I thrust. Shit. But it's been a while. It's so hostile. It's crazy. It's always in a motoring. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That would be the only normal way.
Starting point is 00:16:13 Yes, to someone through a windshield. Yeah. Yeah. That's the last time I did this. Yeah. It was through the windshield. Through the windshield. Yeah, smashed through the windshield just into the face.
Starting point is 00:16:24 Yeah. Yeah, so there was some of that. But don't get me wrong, it was... It's a brilliant show if you don't mind being hated. I have heard... I can't speak anymore on this. Okay. Feel free to shoot me down. I can take it. That's not where I'm coming from in my position of silence. Okay, but she's a very, very talented woman, and I thought it was the actual show and all that was great.
Starting point is 00:16:58 To anyone who follows her on Instagram, she will often do these screen grants, and it's clearly just sentences that she's come up with. And I do think she's sort of a poet. Like her way with words is... Very poetic lyrics. Is sort of a very, very... I'm not going to put her in a letter... I don't know. I don't know how great she is or isn't, but she is an incredible lyricist, that's all. Regarding slang and swearing, I've just got back from Melbourne. Shout out to a few listeners
Starting point is 00:17:40 as well who came to see me. We got some nice messages from them. They didn't go to Melbourne just. They're natives. Locals or transplants sometimes. That's great. Did you have a good time? We haven't really asked you that. Yes it was good. I say this about the Melbourne audience they're very very nice and if you've learned to do comedy here it can be almost as unsettling as a hostile crowd. Oh. I got a couple of R's from the crowd. Are you damning them with faint praise by saying they're nice? No, no, no, I'm saying they're too sympathetic. I don't need an R. I'm trying to do a joke. It's like they're all on MDMA. The self-esteem crowd, I mean that was real love in the room. I mean, like, phenomenal.
Starting point is 00:18:26 I've never had an audience like that. Every audience I've made laugh, and there's been a lot, I've had to basically wrestle them to the ground to get it to happen. But this is it. This is it. Whereas in Australia, they're so sort of, everyone I spoke to, and I had friends out there who are much more sort of shocking comedians than me, they all said, the audience goes, whoa, 15 to 20 minutes earlier in the runtime of the show.
Starting point is 00:18:50 Right. They're so much more sensitive and worried and heart on their sleeve in a kind way. They're a very kind crowd. Not in terms of like, oh, they laugh overly easily. Yeah. Emotionally kind. So you do a harsh joke and they're, oh, oh. Imagine how it was for me.
Starting point is 00:19:08 I can't. I had to change my act fast. I think they were just appalled. Well, this is it. There's an air of appalled some of the darker things even I said. That's so interesting. But I had to develop a little routine to deal with that where I had to explain to them that if you learn to do comedy in the UK, it's like being
Starting point is 00:19:28 an outside dog. And if you try and be kind and pet my head, it worries me because I don't know why you're trying to touch the top of my head. I see. And you think you're being nice, but actually it's just quite weird. Do you have to give me a time to get used to this? I don't think it's... I think when an audience loves you as much as they love self-esteem, for example, another performance I've seen, I don't know if it helps you because I used to do a joke when
Starting point is 00:19:58 I was doing warm-up gigs. I used to do a bit and I used to say, you know, what worries me more about warm-up gigs than anything? It's not going badly. It's going better than I was supposed to go. I said, I worry that you guys, when you're in the bar before the show, say, wouldn't it be a laugh if we have a little signal and if he does a really rubbish routine, we'll roar and then you'll go and do it on tour thinking it's good even though it's terrible. I said I know it happens, I've seen lots of top flight comedians have clearly been tricked into that. And yeah, they can be too nice.
Starting point is 00:20:39 They were very friendly crowd, it was nice. It's a very different to the Edinburgh Fringe. It's much more managed and sort of neat and it's only in the evening, you know. So it's a very different atmosphere. But what I thought is I learned some new slang. Okay. Some Australian slang. I love new slang. Aussies are very good at slang. I'll say this. Is it just put an E on the end of everything? Or O. Okay. There's a bit of that. Yeah. From the... If you're listening to this pod-O. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:21:11 If you're a listener-O to the old pod-O. Yeah, I hope it's going to be cleverer than that. It is, it is. But I want you... I've mixed in some fakes. Oh. You have to decide if they're real or fake. You decide! As they say on Big Brother. So I'll give you the slang and I'll tell you what it is.
Starting point is 00:21:29 Okay. Goon bag. Goon bag. And that is a? Fanny pack. No, it's box wine. Oh, a goon bag. Can I tell you, I was reading a comic book recently and he was making a comment on these
Starting point is 00:21:48 very sort of self-indulgent modern adult types and he called them bags of want. Oh God, what kind of devastating comic were you reading? The Beano? I like to occasionally have a dark one. Devastating Yeah, I love the idea of Dennis the menace accusing a teacher of being a bag of want Why is it a goon is it suggestion that Lesser people have wine by the box unclear Okay, do you think that's real or not? I goon bag. I think it's real. It's real. Yeah a bag of goon. Oh
Starting point is 00:22:35 You're on the goon. Oh, so it's not it doesn't mean that idiots have it because they can't the wine is also sort of Referred to as goon. I say yeah, it's quite strange one Okay, so a Revo So Anglican Vicar. That would be good, yeah. A motorbike. It's a stick shift. They all drive automatics over there. That sounds right to me. Real.
Starting point is 00:22:49 Fake, I got you. I got you with Revo. Fake news. You dirty dog. They drive with automatics, but they don't use stick shift. They don't have a nickname for that. Too dramatic. Fake slang.
Starting point is 00:22:57 I'm going to go with the Revo. I'm going to go with the Revo. I'm going to go with the Revo. I'm going to go with the Revo. I'm going to go with the Revo. I'm going to go with the Revo. I'm going to go with the Revo. I'm going to go with the Revo. I'm going to go with the Revo. I'm going to go with the Revo. I'm going to go with the Revo. I'm going to go with the Revo. You dirty dog. They drive with automatics, but they don't use stick shift.
Starting point is 00:23:05 They don't have a nickname for that. Too traumatic. Fake slang. OK, a bludger. I've heard that. That's definitely real, because the guy Alf in Home and Away used to say, you bludger. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:24 You mongrel. It is. It's a slob, a couch potato you bludger. Yeah. You mongrel. It is, it's a slob, a couch potato, a useless person. Yeah. Yeah. A bludger. Slob. Yeah. Love the word slob.
Starting point is 00:23:33 Slob, a slob. Cutties. Real. A flat fish, cutties I would say in my voice. I think he made this one up. I think it's real. It's fake. Oh. I got to, I got to, in my voice. I think he made this one up. I think it's real. It's fake. He did a similar pattern to what he did with the...
Starting point is 00:23:50 Okay, one more. Ankle biter. A mosquito. A child. Fake. I think it's fake. It's real. It's good though, isn't it? Sorry. No, it's fake. It's real.
Starting point is 00:24:06 It's good though, isn't it? We were terrible. Sorry. No, we were okay. We weren't terrible. We just weren't great. Don't bite your ankles today. In Australia, they do.
Starting point is 00:24:14 Mine don't. Larrikin is another one that's just nice. Israel. It's a fun loving type. There used to be a comedian who I think used the word Larrikin in his name. He was like blah, blah, blah. word larracan in his name. He was like, blah, blah, blah. The lovable larracan. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:29 It means Israeli? No, a lovable type. Oh, I'm sorry. I thought you said larracan meant Israeli. No. I was like, what? No. No.
Starting point is 00:24:37 It's cool. I love the idea of there being so many Israelis in Australia that they've got a nickname. To be fair, they've got nicknames for the rest of them. So what is a larracican? It's like a fun... It's a fun loving prankster-y sort of chilled laid back guy. So if you had a poet who was writing like friendly and positive stuff, it could be Philip Larrican.
Starting point is 00:24:56 A very different tone. Exactly. If Philip Larkin had actually got enough vitamin D from sunshine, he'd have been Philip Larkin. Yeah. They cheer you up, your mom and dad. They are meant to and they do. They give you all the fabulous qualities they had. I wake before dawn and stare at the light through the curtains and imagine what a wonderful
Starting point is 00:25:23 day I'll have. One thing we haven't done is asked Sarah Barron what the hell's been happening in her life. I know one thing because I saw her live just about three weeks ago. Sounds right. Yeah. At the Soho Theatre. And it was a tremendous show. I always think when I see Sarah that I can't think, no disrespect to President Cotteney,
Starting point is 00:25:53 I can't think of another comedian operating in this country who is a better performer. Oh my god, that's so nice. I think that's true. You guys, that's really nice. I know,'s true. You guys, that's really nice! I think Americans care more about performance than English people do. I do care. Yeah, I mean the performance level is really through the ceiling. That's so sweet. It means a lot to me.
Starting point is 00:26:18 I'm not saying that because you're here. I said that after the show. Because I'm so needy! No, I said it to people on the way home from that gig. Thank you. Anyway, what else? Well, here's what else. I was performing to apparently a very high standard the other night on stage.
Starting point is 00:26:35 Well, I mean, it might not be. It's just when I've seen you. Just if I know Frank is in the room. So I was coming home when I was hungry and I got myself a chipotle. You know a chipotle. You know a Brazil? Yeah. I have a chipotle. I know what a chipotle is. You a Chipotle. You know a Brazil? Yeah. I have a Chipotle.
Starting point is 00:26:46 I know what a Chipotle is. You know what a Chipotle is. A burrito. I got a burrito too. So I got this burrito and I didn't want to finish it all. They're big, aren't they? They're really big and also a self-esteem lyric is, listen to your body. We haven't been in touch most lately. And it's a refrain in our family. I go to my son, I go, listen to your body. And he goes, we haven't been in touch most lately." And it's a refrain in our family. I go to my son, I go, listen to your body. And he goes, we haven't been in touch much lately.
Starting point is 00:27:05 I know you're painting her as a Shakespearean figure, but I think her current single, which is called 69, is a big list of sexual positions with her sort of... I think there are two sides to her. And one has a real subtlety to it and the other is doing something else. It's like there are some things I never heard of which I really like the, you know. You like the sound of that? Well, no, I like the poetry of it. Oh, okay, okay. There's things like pruning the head to row and stuff.
Starting point is 00:27:37 You never heard of that? I'm not that old. I like the idea of, you know, those posters that they put up of like all the words and phrases that William Shakespeare Invented and then on just in the middle of you know Eyeball and elbow and all the other ones he gets credit for you just have 69 Yeah, wait which was in a sonnet 69 Anyway, okay, so I get this Chipotle.
Starting point is 00:28:05 Chipotle gate. Chipotle gate. It's a huge burrito and I think, I'm listening to my body. I just want half, but you can't trust a Chipotle to not leak in your bag. Yes. So I commit to carrying this sort of half demolished burrito all the way from the West End. Bitten in half or did you bisect it in the shop and have it as neat? It wasn't neat.
Starting point is 00:28:33 Okay. It was gross. It looked- She carries a small station regalitine on her, have they? Yeah. For dietary reasons. Yes. Don't put it past me.
Starting point is 00:28:45 So I'm walking with something that looks demolished. Tattered. Yes. Unclean. And I'm carrying it from a walk to the tube, one tube transferred to the next tube. But I'm committed. Yeah. And I'm walking down some stairs and I see a homeless gentleman sat at the bottom.
Starting point is 00:29:06 And I was like, I should, if I see someone who needs food, I should give this to them. I'm walking around going, I have food. Like, it's just, hello. And I see this guy sat there and he has a sign. And I'm like, okay, if it says money, I'm not going to offer it because I think this looks too deranged. But if he says money or food, I'm gonna be like Do you want this? So I get close enough and it says
Starting point is 00:29:32 It says money or food full-stop Please I am hungry. Mm-hmm. That's pretty clear Wow. Yeah Well, there's a direct invitation for what this burrito is really meant for. So I walk up to him, I say, I'm not sure if you want this, but it is a burrito. And he looks at it and says, thank you, but I shouldn't. Oh, wow. I shouldn't. Oh, wow. And I went. I shouldn't.
Starting point is 00:30:06 No, no, no, of course. And I felt. Please tell me he said a moment on the lips. A lifetime on the lips. And I was like, I'm, he, good, good for him. Good for him, I thought. It looked so unappealing that a gentleman who was hungry. Maybe he wasn't good with spicy food or something.
Starting point is 00:30:33 It didn't look spicy, Frank. It looked deranged. It looked like a crazy lady. It looked like drugs. I shouldn't suggest it's a health decision. I genuinely felt that what he was doing is he knew that I was kind. I'm a really kind lady. He knew that it was a kind gesture and he wanted to somehow reward me for that whilst
Starting point is 00:30:55 also feeling absolutely repulsed by what I showed him. Okay. By the Tati Burrito. Yeah. And you're like, you know. I think I went to university with Tati Burrito. Yeah and you're like you know. I think I went to University of Tati Burrito. I was on New Street station in Birmingham many many years ago and a homeless man said I had a burger and he said can I have a
Starting point is 00:31:21 bite of your burger and I thought there's there's gotta be a good way of doing this. Because if you ever bite of my burger, I'm gonna be honest and I'm not proud of this, but that's the burger gone for me. I'm not gonna keep eating where you've made an indent. Yeah, I mean, it's wrong. Where you've been. It's wrong, I know, but that was how I felt. And what I did is I broke a large piece of the burger off
Starting point is 00:31:47 and gave it to him. And I was so proud that I came up with that as a solution. It reminded me, you know that story of when two women claim the same baby and King Solomon threatens to cut it in half. The real mother says, let her have it rather than it be damaged. I felt like I was operating at that level of wisdom.
Starting point is 00:32:08 Did he accept it? He did. He was happy with that. Oh, okay. Because I'd given him more than a bite. Yeah, a full sort of handful. I was out when I was at university with a friend who bought a guy's begging on the floor a McDonald's meal and he rejected it because he was a vegetarian. What? Great.
Starting point is 00:32:33 And we sort of thought, okay. I was on a train once and a homeless man said to me, can I buy a cigarette off you? I was in the smoking compartment, what's this back of me. So I got the cigarette out, gave it to him, he put his hand in his pocket and he got out of his pennies and tomsies and stuff like that with bits of tobacco on them and things. And I accepted the money. And the person I was with said afterwards, I didn't think you were going to take. I said, I don't know quite what happened there.
Starting point is 00:33:11 Did it feel respectful in a way? No, it felt transactional. Oh my God. I just didn't. I don't think it was. I'd like to think it was respectful. I just think it was. It was just some kind of instinct that came out.
Starting point is 00:33:22 It was just that he was buying and I was selling. It was the seller's market. I took the cash. You were like... Sometimes you see them with a sign saying like, oh, I need money for whatever. And if you don't have any money, a smile or something, you'll be the one guy who reads and goes, oh, mmm, just smiles right in their face. He keeps going.
Starting point is 00:33:44 He didn't balk at me taking the money at all. No, no, no. He was happy with that. One of my husband's worst moments was he went up to give a homeless man money. Fine. And then his parting shot was, have a great weekend. There's no weekend for this person. No.
Starting point is 00:34:03 No, I guess not. No, I don't know really. You know, there aren't enough homeless anecdotes on podcasts. I'm really glad we've blasted those out. Some funny things can happen. Yeah, exactly. I always think whenever they say now in London, does anyone have any change? I just think not since COVID.
Starting point is 00:34:24 No one has changed. No one has paper money usually, but change. Does that still exist? If you don't grow up around a pound coin, then you get your fingers on one. Oh my God. Oh, it's hefty. Oh, you really want to put those between your teeth. What about a two pound coin? You know how they recently, I say recently, I don't know, maybe at this point, it was like six years ago, but they redid the pound coin. No, not those. You know how they recently, I say recently, I don't know, maybe at this point it was like six years ago,
Starting point is 00:34:46 but they redid the pound coin. Pierre, when was this? It was something like that. Fine. Six years ago. The earlier version of the pound coin. The fully round one. Ooh. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:58 That business in your chief. What I love about the two pound coin is it came out in something like 1997. Really? Yeah. And it's still never been really accepted by people as proper coin. I still, if I'm at a machine that's coins, I'll put a hand in my pocket and I've got a two pound coin.
Starting point is 00:35:17 I think, no, it won't. It won't have this. I remember the two pound coin came out when I was already growing up here. So yeah, 97 or later, 98 or later. But it's never been accepted. But it's such a great coin. It's an outsider in the... Well, that's stupid.
Starting point is 00:35:35 It should be kicking out the 1p, the 5p, the two pound... These things are fat and luscious and strong. The 5p is mad. The 5p feels like something from an archaeological dig. It's so thin. So stupid. The two pound coin is an annex to British currency. Well, I disagree.
Starting point is 00:35:52 It doesn't live in the main building. That is tragic. I know. And if it's been feeling rejected, I want it to hear that I think it's really special. I wouldn't even carry one around, because I just assume we're just going to accept this. We're just going to accept this rogue. I've been living in such a naive world.
Starting point is 00:36:13 I just keep them now as coasters. Oh, well, look, it's been lovely having you on the show, Sarah. Great seeing you guys. Great having you back, Pierre. Thank you. it's been lovely having you on the show, Sarah. Great seeing you guys. Great having you back, Pierre. Thank you. It's been a long way. And next week, God willing, I think we're back to Pierre, Emily and Frank, the A-Team. Ouch, but you know, of course, of course.
Starting point is 00:36:42 And if you can find them, that's the bit I always liked about the ATM. Where is Emily ATM? Or maybe you can't say. I can't say, because I don't know. We'll find out. I don't ask. People say to me I won't be there for that show. I just accept that. I'm not one to probe. You don't feel like you need a good reason why. No, I, um...
Starting point is 00:37:04 I never ask ladies for excuses. Wow. Maybe I need to start giving fewer excuses. I'm always saying, but the reason is. I always think it might be something which is not a man's business. You think just women get their periods and then cancel? No, I think there's other things that are a man's business. Other you think like just women get their periods and then cancel? No, I think there's other things that are... Other lady business?
Starting point is 00:37:27 Yeah, yeah. It's the only lady business there is, gentlemen. I don't know. I'm uncomfortable just that we've gone here. Yeah. Okay, fine, fine. I'll stop. I've got very tangled indeed in the wire.
Starting point is 00:37:40 Do you think any of that was recorded? Yes. And if it wasn't, is that a good thing or a bad thing? Only history will tell. Yes, it does tell quite a lot. I'm closing this now. Bye bye. Bye bye.
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