The Frank Skinner Show - Frank Skinner’s Radio Days: Childhood Misconceptions

Episode Date: January 7, 2026

We’re in 2011 with Frank, Emily and Alun for the best bits of the radio show. This time Frank has done a Radio 4 show, played noughts and crosses and wants to know the most unusual things you’ve eaten. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

We've taken all by radio shows and done a bit of editing and tightening. It's a walk-down memory lane. I know because people find new things quite frightening. Hello and welcome to Frank Skinner's Radio Days. It's 2011. And this time I've been playing Nauts and Crosses. What could be more exciting? I've been doing a bit of work this week. Yeah, still. Still at it. And I am, what I've, I've been recording a radio show. Oh, but don't think for one second that I've, that I'm seeing someone else. Nice knowing you.

No, there's not going to be a picture of Emily putting a bridle on a horse looking on the verge of tears, like poor Zara. You're still going to be bothering with this. Oh God, I should say so. Now, this is, this is scripted. I actually wrote some stuff down and then it's me and like an actress doing it so it's not, it doesn't have this free form thing He already sounds like he's got a greater respect for the new project

No certainly not nothing this will always You're always on my mind With a comfortable old pair of slippers Yeah Yeah well I mean the cockerel's fairly new though He's like a very new slip and you're, uh... Yeah.

Hmm. So, yeah, so, yeah, so I'm not, I'm not blowing my own trumpet here. Not with my back. But I, I wrote, uh, it's, it's every episode is an argument. That's, that's what, that's this thing I've just done is for Radio 4. I think we can say Radio 4. And I don't... Oh, you said you had to write things for this.

Yeah. Every episode is an argument. Yeah, but they need to be a bit more, they're not as much improvisation. as me and Kath. And I missed them. Anyway, and I could go on all day about this, but it just made me, it's very weird having an argument because there's me and Catherine Parkinson

from the IT crowd. And we're having this argument in a recording studio, but, you know, I've written it. Right. And I had to write things like her getting one over on me, which goes so against my instincts in an argument when I want to win every point. You know, I want to win six love, six love, six love in an argument.

Oh, really? Yeah. Preferably all on aces. But it has it. And it just made me think because I played it. The first episode, I played it to my girlfriend, and I said, what do you think? And I actually left her in a room to listen to it on her own

in case the laugh count wasn't high enough and we'd have to split up. And she came back in and I was tense. I sat in the other room and my stomach was knotted like, like one of Tony Hart's cravats on Vision On and she came in and I said what do you think

she said I hated it She did not say that Yeah she did say that And I said oh because a lot of people have said it And she said no She said if anyone says to me Frank Skinner can't act I shall say no

That is exactly what he's like In arguments And she'd got She was quite off with it No, the argument that I was having, she said, and there's a couple of things that we've said in arguments. And so it led to a bit of an argument. Oh, no, you had an argument about your argument of drama.

I had an argument about my written argument. Oh. We worked shopped it accidentally. So it just got me thinking about what I would call some of my great... Some of your greatest hits. My greatest hit. I think me and Kath are what the most difficult argument we've ever had. we find them quite easy.

We used to have, literally, I'd say the first three years we were together. No, no, six years we were together. We argued every day. Wow. And I remember us saying once, we haven't had an argument today. Can you believe that? And she said, well, that's because you've been in a good mood. And I said, oh, so it's my moods then that dictate the arguments.

We had an argument about quarter to 12. We're nearly, nearly made it. And it was like Devon Locke that, you know, the Queen's racehorse, and it collapsed just before the finishing line. Anyway, we were arguing, we were next to the Savoy in London on the Strand. Oh, yeah. And this argument started. And we were arguing so feverishly that we had to find a quiet side street

because people were staring. And we went into this side street behind the Savoy. And it was really quite a nasty sort of, you know, Kath was talking about splitting up. I do like the fact that you chose a little location for your argument. Yeah, we had to move it. We had to bookmark it and go around to a quieter place where we could let rip. Like a mobile phone user.

I'm in a busy street. You're going to have to hang on a second. Exactly. It was like that. But we were in this street arguing and Kath was very, you know, she was furious and tearful and I was really upset. She was talking about ending it. And I suddenly realised we were in the street. where Bob Dylan filmed the Subterranean Homesick Blues video.

And I thought, oh man, this is absolutely... So we had two things going on in my mind. One part of my brain is thinking that's exactly where Alan Ginsberg stood. I don't know if you're familiar with this. It's the one where Bob Dylan holds up a series of placards with words on. It's a very famous video.

Yeah, I've seen it. I've seen it. Is it a life of... and he's holding up things. And we were there, and part of me was thinking, oh, man, I'm basically, I'm about six foot. And I moved. I slightly edged the argument along the street

so I could stand where Dylan. I didn't, Kat didn't know anything about this. I didn't have the courage to tell her for about three weeks later. She has been told since. She has been told you. Oh, good. She said, I hate Bob Dylan. We had another argument.

I took her to see Bob Dylan once, and as we left, she said to me, we hadn't even got out, people were listening, and she said, never take me to see Bob Dylan again. I thought you don't have to establish that now. They'll be like me saying, oh, Bob Dylan's coming to town. We can have that conversation now. But she would light the law down immediately. Don't you like it though, Frank?

When you're in a social situation, have you had this with Kath, and you're having a route, much like your situation, but when you're like at dinner party or at a friend's drinks party and you turn up and you're still rowing in the car and then you're forced to conduct yourselves in a civil fashion. But I am amazed at both of us, how quickly we can turn it around. We can be in the car absolutely vile. I mean like tigers fighting and then turn up the door.

Hello, where are you? Not a hint. Not a hint. Although there'll always be about two hours into the party, Cath will say, of course, when we arrive, we're having a terrible row in the car. And that's her way of telling me, I haven't forgot about that. If you're thinking, oh, the car journey's going to be okay on the way home,

because Kath's looking like she's completely got over it, that's her way of saying, oh, no, don't worry. Part two to come. Are you a rower? Not massively, but at the same time, we're not those annoying couples that say, oh, we'd never row. We have a healthy amount of verbal debate, I would say.

But I just caught out like the tiniest things that set it off. Like we get on really well. How awesome would you say you, how many rows a year? Oh, not many at all. Really? Oh, he's one of those. Not many. How many?

Give me a figure. I couldn't put a ballpark on it. Two? Oh, God, not double figures. Not double figures in a year? No. Three? I mean...

I'm going five. It doesn't help. Five? Like, when my wife is annoyed, I often find it funny. So I don't even consider it around, because I just think it's... Like, recently, I think this was July, we changed car. My wife drove the car to Morrison's to do the food shop, and unbeknown to her. She phoned me up, going mad, because we have, you know, the little key rings that you have,

that's got a disc that's a fake pound for the shopping trolleys of the supermarket? seen that? Oh, well, I can show you it. I've got my car key with me. I'll show you after. Are they legal? I think they are. Yeah, you don't. You get it back at the end. I wasn't on the verge of a citizen's arrest. Mike says Alan on it, AL-A-N. I don't like the way he skirts around on the underbelly of society, the cock-crow. Anyway, it does. I hadn't put my old car key key ring on the new car key, and she gets to Morrison's without her own pound and hasn't got the pound for the disc. The fake pound. So I have to spend the pound?

No, just had to go and get changed from the corner shop. Phone me up. I've had to go and get changed. There isn't. And I just found it funny. Are you really phoning me about the pound coin for the Morrison's trolley? And occasionally we've had a bit of a round because I am a man who can break wind. I really can.

Oh, no. I really can. Let me check the absolute man, you know. I can do it on a long car journey, which is, it's a bit like. like being trapped, isn't it? It's horrible. When you say it's a bit like being trapped, it is being trapped. Yeah, yeah. You're now taking a tone. There's no bit like being.

I recognise this tone very well. I've actually got my arms folded. Mrs. Cockrell out of the passenger window, trying to get onto the roof right. I find it very funny, though. I find this very funny. Do you? The worst one was where she genuinely said to me, I mean this seriously. I think you know, need medical attention. Oh, no. Oh, no, I'm not happy on this topic.

There's nothing worse than when you're angry, somebody else find it hysterical, is there? It happens to me every day of my life. Oh, I could not have been more proud. I was practically phoning my brothers at the time, near enough to see. You're brave. You're very brave.

Oh, you won't believe this. We'd have been on the hard shoulder. Cath would have been out. She'd have been storming off. She would have. Yeah? No question. It's a big day for me, I must say.

Oh, is it? I'm doing my baggie's brick. I beg your father. Is that right? They're going to build a sort of a yellow brick road at West Bromwich Albion Football Club leading to the club shop at the East Stand. Oh, that's a lovely.

And everyone's going to name, well, not everyone, but you have to buy a brick and have your name money. Oh, yeah, yeah. Oh, how much does it? brick cost? Well, I don't know the answer to that. I think... She's going to comp brick. Well, after the

West Bromwich riots, there were quite a few bricks just lying around. So I'd just grab one in the street. But yeah, so me and Adrian Childs are doing the pre-match thing today when we appear with our respective bricks. Oh, really? There's no way to talk about Cathy.

And they'll build a sort of a baggy brick road, I think they're going to call it. Right, you've already got a star on the walk of fame. Oh, no, I'm all over the floor in the West Midlands. I'm not ashamed of that. It's also 25 years since I stopped drinking,

25 years to the day, since I had my last drink of alcohol. Not drop, stop drinking. I don't want anyone thinking that it's all right to stop drinking. Deodrated? Yeah, that would be terrible. No, so I haven't had any alcohol for 25 years. And do you know what? I still miss it very, very much.

No, right. Anyone's thinking of giving up, I strongly advise you against it because life's never caught. the same. I mean, 25 years, enough is enough. You can tell how exciting one's life becomes when you stop drinking that earlier this week, I mean, I've been absolutely rushed off my feet just lately.

Earlier this week, I was playing Nauts and Crosses. Was it? Was it in 1948? I was playing with a friend and work colleague, and I hadn't played Nauts and crosses for some considerable time. It began with the story which I've told on the show previously about the fact that I knew a guy who was an air steward And yeah, you know, it was just a phase

And he told me that he'd been on a plane with Posh and Becks And they'd asked for a pen and paper And they'd done a few tattoo designs And also they'd played quite a lot of noughts and crosses And I thought, what kind of idiots play noughts and crosses It always ends in a drawer, always, always, always Anyway, I played this week, and was beaten. Oh, thank.

And, yes, it was a blow. There'll be people listening, cynics, thinking, yeah, you're only telling this because it's the voting opens for sports personality of the year. You're trying to get yourself in. But it was, I was really gutted. I thought, you can't lose. And then suddenly I saw that I'd left two options where, wherever I put my nought, he was going to put in his cross.

Yeah, it was. And he was, the problem was he was so elated. He made me sign it, and he signed it. And we had to put in brackets after our names what symbol we'd been using. And then he photographed that. I imagine that's all over the internet. He sounds a bit mental. No, no, he was, you know, he's an enthusiast.

Who plays knots and crosses with an adult, though? Well, who plays it at all? Yeah, yeah. Well, children play it because they haven't realised it. Do they still play? I suppose they do. I suppose they're the target market I wouldn't let my children I wouldn't let my children

I wouldn't it's too negative and both a nought and a cross both negative symbols yeah yeah you bet you're either a cross or a zero right yeah it's not I mean it's exactly there's no status

my children are going to play ticks and ampersands some suggestion of approval and something that's been added rather than just minus all the time, there'll be people who play Sudoku listening to this thinking, what's happening to the world. But trying, it's

not as easy as it sounds, Nauts and crosses, I think, maybe obvious. Was it best a three, Frank? Because that's normally what you have to do, isn't it? I don't have that kind of time on my hands. It's a bit busy week, can it? It has, yeah. I mean, I have to squeeze in Norts and crosses where I can.

To be honest, I was loath to play, because if I'd lost two games. See, I think I only lost, it was like when when a big team plays a smaller team in the Carlin Cup or something, they're a bit complacent. It's because I was thinking

if Posh and Bex can play this, how can I be anything other than a winner? You know, Pride came before a fall and it served me right. I don't feel good about it. I'll be honest with you. I haven't got a Norton Cross's story, but I think I...

Well, then get out. I forgot. I didn't realize it was part of the remit. I was once banned from the school chess club for fighting. That's pretty rock and roll, isn't it? Were you? Or fighting on the chess board or with your fists? Fighting a physical fight in Merfield High School as it was. But did it begin with the chess game or was it separate?

The pawns must have gone everywhere. It began with some upset. Yeah, I think there was, I mean, there was no claret. It was just fisty cuffs. But then the cockerel got a ban. Cockfighting. Did you have them big spurs? I don't know, I hate them big spurs.

No, but was it an argument about the chess game? I like the idea of someone getting so... It was my chip on my shoulder. I didn't really fit it. Were you a bit like, were you a difficult, difficult kid? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You should never have been allowed in the chess club, let's face it. Maybe, but...

It was always going to end in trouble. Perhaps they were trying to rehabilitate me. Maybe. It's a good game, though, chess. I've never been able to play backgammon. Can you play backgammon? No. No, I don't.

It's too pointy. The board. Right. Board pattern, far too pattern. I don't like it. There's not enough going on. It's too plain that board. Oh, really?

Yeah. Also, I don't really want to get into anything that's championed by Omar Sharif. Do you think that generally? Is he big into Batgammon? Oh, God, he's the king of Backgammon, Omar? Is it? Umo Sherif, as a guy I worked with used to call him.

I said that, um, Elmo Sheriff on the telly the other night. I mean, we were all guessing who that could be. Frank, we've had an email base, Frank, we've had an email in which I'd like to share with you. Dear Frank, Emily and Alan, this is a little bit of a childhood idiotic eureka moment, but falls more into the... I should explain, actually, for newly. An idiotic eureka moment is something that you don't get for years and years and years, and then it suddenly strikes you. an example being

Sutty and Sweep someone sent in It never occurred to me Sutty and Sweep as in chimney sweep I never occurred to that person I think for all of us it was an idiotic eureka moment Yeah Probably continue This falls more into the category of irrational fears

that you have before you're old enough To realise how life works I used to be very worried about going to prison I would think about how much I really wouldn't like it Assuming that everyone went to prison at some point in their lives Is this from Pete Docherty? Once they were grown up. Oh, she thought everyone?

She thought you just, that was part of life. Oh. Some families it is. I think it wasn't until I was at least a teenager that I suddenly realized that as long as I didn't do anything bad, I wouldn't actually go to prison. Well, that's optimistic. Yes, exactly.

What about the many, many miscarriages of justice? Carry on. Did any of you have similar childhood misconceptions? That's from Kelly. Well, Kelly I never had anything that stupid But I No, it's a joke

I did think Before I went to school I couldn't read I know some kids are taught by their parents But I wasn't And I remember reading Rupert Bear With my mum I don't know if you remember Rupert Bear

But they didn't imply The speech bubble The Rupert bear people. What they would do, they would have Rupert in some sort of situation. Off in a field. All the text would be underneath the picture. So you get a picture and then a block of text underneath. So I couldn't read. So my mum used to read it to me. And then one day she said, why don't you read it? You know, just messing about, little kid. And I started reading, you know,

Rupert Bear went into the forest, just, you know, saying whatever, and saw, you know, that panda creature. And I said, is that what it says? And she said, yes. I said, what, that's what it says? And she said, yeah. And I thought, well, this is much easier than I thought. So obviously she was just humour in me, but I spent some time thinking that reading was basically just intuitive. You know, I could just feel it. I could just feel what it said. And I honestly thought, that's it. I can read. It's as easy. And I'd do it with all sorts of books. And it wasn't until I came head on to phonetics that I got into that. We should carry on with this.

I'd like to know what our listeners, what misconceptions. I have a, just to remind it, I've just been past a note by my producer that says, what child and conceptions did our listeners have? Well, this is broken Britain, isn't it? I have a question. Did you see the news article this week about... The news article? You're going through the papers. It's like on Sky News when people come on and go through the papers.

That's exciting. I feel like I ought to self-educate in my role as media pundit. Is that not what I'm here for? I like it when they do it on the tent. There's a suggestion that you can't expect the public to go through the papers on their own. No, no, they've got stuff going down, haven't they? Exactly. They've got to deal with the school run and cooking and cleaning, whatever.

Whatever it is that they're getting on with, whereas we're in the media, so I've gone through the papers. Well done. But typically, I've ignored some of the bigger stories in favour of thinking through my stomach, as usual. I hope you've saved me some of those very interesting leaflets that one often finds in the paper. Oh, yeah, I've got some here for zip-up shoes and elastic waistband trousers. Well, that's my winter sorted. And the body moth, that's my favourite. Yeah, I've heard that.

Carry on. Back to the story, shall we? Yeah, did you see this guy that has lived off roadkill for 30 years? Respect. Yeah, respect. See him? I've lived with him. I think there's something brilliant about that, isn't it? Oh, I thought it was fantastic.

He eats owl curry, which is great. Owl curry? Owl curry. Can I say that owl is quite unusual roadkill, isn't it? It is. Does he live near the owner of? Chitty-chitty-chitty bang, bang. I think maybe. Where is he that he lives?

I think he lives in Dorset. How do owls get run over? I don't know. Maybe it's a very neocited owl who can no longer spot field mice from the sky. He's had to come down and track them. It's not even like they can claim that it was in their blind spot, is it? Because they've got 360 spinny heads.

Exactly, yeah. I hope when they make the cowl. Well, he says, he's quite forensic about it. He says, if I don't know how an animal has died, before I eat it, I'll perform an autopsy on it first. What? He says that. Yeah, yeah.

I do that with Ormeet. You're like Quincy. I won't need to stay out and kidney pipe if I haven't got the paperwork. Really? No of it. When it was killed and by whom? There's quite a long sheet. That autopsy information, for me, that moved him from kind of lovable, local character territory into downright creepy, I'm afraid.

He's gone from eccentric to sinister. Well, it's better, though. It's better than leading animals into a shed and hitting him with a big electric prize. isn't it? I mean, I like someone who's diet is basically chosen by fate. Badger stew? Badger stew. That's not a person that he knows.

That's something that he's cooked. Yeah, but if it's, you know, it's dead anyway. That's my point. Yeah, that's his point too. He doesn't buy supermarket meat, I guess, I suppose. No need? 30 years. And people go around for it. I'll tell you what worries me. If he's sitting at home and he thinks, oh, I'd love a bit of

a bit of badgers stew, Is he going to leave it to chance Or is he going to get the car out? Well, it's funny you should say that Because I happen to have a friend who's very into roadkill And eats roadkill as well What? Oh, just hold on a minute Yeah, I've got a mate that eats roadkill

And the law is I thought this bloat was a complete one-off You've got a mate who does he? Yeah, TV, not TV, comedian Rob Rouse is a fan of roadkill And he eats it And then he told me He told me that you're not allowed to pick up what you've hit, you have to leave it, and the person after...

Because if not, there's the danger that you could use your car as a weapon to kill creatures. Strange law of the streets? It's not even the law of the jungle. I think it's the law of the highway and jungle. It's a sort of weird... But yeah, he's gone for everything, aren't it, this guy? And some of it is found by foraging, just animals that have died, I guess. Yeah.

Oh, but you know, you don't know what they've died of, the start? Well, he does, because he's a taxidermist, and... And he performs autopsies, like Quincy. He's a taxid... See, I once had this long conversation with Laura Solon. It was very interested in taxidermy. I asked that one of the problems, I think, of taxidermy is getting dead animals. Yeah.

And I was talking about roadkill. And because one of the problems is they're often, they've got quite a bit of a tire mark on them. Oh, yeah. And I wonder if you could mix a match. If you found three different rabbits, I mean, why keep it to the same species? A bit of fox, a bit of badger You could have a fabulous

Dog and Badger Dog and Badger Has texted in Well you could call it If there was a pub called the Dog and Badger You could make them a dog-stroke badger Which they could have in a glass case In the Bar as a conversation person

That'd be good Yeah 212 Frank has texted in Is Al Curry not the pub landlord anymore Tremendous stuff I'd tell you what I would like people to text in. What unusual things they've eaten, let's keep it clean. I will eat anything through politeness. If somebody serves it up, I'll have it.

I've had whale when in Iceland, didn't realize that they were endangered at the time. But also, you know, if you're a house guest to people and they offer you a delicacy, you have it, don't you? Not if David Badeeal offers you goat curry, but that's another story. You turned down goat curry? I'd have it. I think we'll come to that after this. Oh, okay. Very interesting to find out what Emily turned down at David Bidoree.

But we do want to talk about road kilt and the man who eats it, who I'm still rather obsessed by. It's a great story. I like the fact, Frank, as well, that he sort of draws the line at certain things. Like, he's quite down on moles, I find. You won't eat moles? He says, they're horrible. They have a rancid taste.

At least he tried them. Yeah. He's not sure about mice as well. Apparently, he describes him. mice qualify as Roachia? I shouldn't do it there's a lot left to work with if a mice, if a mouse gets it.

I did think that. Some of the things that he's eating are quite small. There's not great portioning going on. No. You're quite adventurous with food, Frank. I hope he's got a freezer. What do you eat a fox? Oh, I can never eat a foxie. No, fox is in there. He's had fox. And apparently the people that come round to his for dinner, they like fox, which made me think that he's

a sort of early trailblazer for the story of the Gruffalo. That's only going to appeal to parents of children of certain age. There'll be lots of those listening. Good, excellent. I hope they take off the little waistcoat first. Yeah, I don't think they all wear those. Oh, I thought

they did. I think that's optional, I'm the fact. He has squirrel stir fry, which I thought was a mistake. Surely, if you can have squirrel, don't serve it as a stir fry, serve it as a nibble. Hey, squirrel nibbles? I'm with you. They do, don't they? Yeah. Do they nibble or do they gnaw? Oh, yeah. Oh, I've got it through.

Yeah. there mightn't it, but I'm not, I'm not writing it off. I've had a lot. I suppose the most outrageous thing I ate was live squid. Oh. Oh. Which, that was in, that was in Korea. Oh, was it? Was it a football-based trip? It was football-based, and it's quite lively, the squid. Korea, yeah, can be like that. No, live squid. No, this was South Korea. North Korea is a bit more, it's a bit more low key but yeah so they it's I mean I don't

maybe I shouldn't describe it on the right it sounds a bit cruel but anyway you eat it while it's still kicking and you have to put you have to put oil on it before you put in your mouth so that it can't get any purchase with its sockers you know they have those sockers on the tentacles oh I know all right

yeah so it'll get a grip on your tongue and your throat on the way down if you don't. If you don't... Produce looks like she may be physically sick at this stage. Oh no, sorry. Sorry about that. I'll change as well. No, but you can feel the sockers against your throat. It's like eating a bath mat. It's...

Yeah, but it did taste nice. Have you had snail porridge, Frank? I have had snail porridge. Oh, what did you think? I'll eat anything, basically. Do you know you will? And it's one of your best qualities. Thanks very much, but let's not go into that now.

I had putrefied shark in Iceland. Were you in Iceland? Yeah, that's their delicacy. How did you find shark? Well, they bury it in the ground until it rots, absolutely rots. And then they cut it into cubes and you eat it like that. But it is the strongest. It was like Vic Vapor Rob, if you're familiar with that.

So it clears your head beautifully. Oh, yeah. Perfect. It's not a snack, though, is it? I wouldn't want it as a food stuff. No, but, you know, I like a bit of novelty when you're out and about abroad. And because I don't drink, I have to eat weird stuff. So, you know, I've had dog and crocodile and mosquito.

No, not mosquito. That would be ridiculous. Scorpion. I've had chocolate-covered ants. My brother-in-law got me chocolate-covered ants for Christmas last year. Oh, that's a nice present. He's all right, yeah. Black or red? Is this a programme again?

No, this is a new thing. version of it. I've heard that they're, did you say they're going to recommission it if they change the format? No. Which is basically saying we're going to recommission a program. Yeah. We'll see what happens.

Chocolate covered that I haven't tried. All right. I'll tell you what else I had. I walked up to a football, you know the sort of the burger vans at the football. I walked up to one of those, ordered a burger as the woman sneezed. into her hands and I thought she'll wash her hands before serving me my burger

and she just served me my burger and I ate it through politeness. That's crippling, isn't it? And now again Emma looks a bit ill. Yeah, I'm feeling a bit ill myself and I believe that's how the toy-fied epidemic in the 1930s started. Oh, no. Frank, what did you think of old Macca's nuptials? Well, I love Paul McCartney.

He is a national treasure, I think. And I was very delighted about the whole thing. I couldn't believe that neighbours complained about him making a noise. If the Beatles can't make a noise, what's the point? It's weird. What kind of neighbourhood relationship were they hoping for? I'll hear something I notice, though, is that, first of all, there's a son called James McCartney, who I've never heard of before.

seems to have come out of nowhere. Who also does the thumbs-up gesture, I noticed. I noticed that, and also there was a picture of, is it, what, is it Nancy, the bride? Oh, yes, I love her. She was doing a thumbs-op as well. Really? There's so much talk about the influence the Beatles

have had on culture and music, but it's the thumbs-op that they are continuing to spread. Big fans are the thumbs-up. You see, I just assumed it was a hereditary thing, perhaps, like, no, but it's true, because when I saw the Sunday, I thought, well, it's really curious, why is he doing it? It might be like a sloping shoulders thing or something. They think they're aliens.

You know, in the invaders, that old sci-fi TV show, the aliens couldn't bend their little fingers. That's how you could spot them. You had to get them to drink tea, really, ideally. Yeah. Oh, I wonder how Ringo, because Ringo was there, and Ringo did his peace sign, which he always does. What is it with the Beatles with their hand gesture rivalry?

Ringo was asked, as he got a comment to make, and he said, peace and love, which is like his catchphrase. All he ever says. Yeah, but you say it is his catchphrase. It's not something he thought, I've had a brilliant idea, something that no one's ever said before. Peace and love. I think what it is is that if he doesn't say peace and love, he knows that what he will say is Thomas the Tank Engine. We're pulled into the stage. But what about when he tell people he wouldn't sign autographs anymore, and he said,

I'm warning you with peace and love. Can you do that? But why don't they get one of them come up with a really original and different hand gesture and buy the other one out the water? I think what they should do is they should construct some sort of shadow poppy hand gesture that looks like a beetle. You could do the antennae with the... I'm demonstrating this now. It looks good.

It looks good. And then reflect like a large beetle on the wall behind them. And then, you know, who's going to want a thumbs up after that? Do you know what? I'm happy to donate my arthritic claw. It's not for grabs. Should Ringo want it? I'm glad that it's off the grabs.

That seems very apt. Of course, the other reason for the neighbours go in and asking for the music to be turned down is that they may have known that Mark Ronson was about to start his DJ sets. Did he do that? It was literally just as he was about to begin. I wonder if it was actually Maca regretting

having booked him and just sending a text to know, you couldn't come around and complain, could you? So that we can turn this down. Do you think he rude, booking him? He may. Was it a Maca Root? Oh, dear, I'm terribly sorry, of you all. It's cold, Franks, radio, days, I don't mean days as a stupor,

and mean days, as in the seven for the weeks old, this is a take not a blooper.