The Frank Skinner Show - Hanging Around Stage Doors

Episode Date: October 16, 2026

Frank and Em are joined by comedian Brandon? Brannan? BRENNAN REECE! Frank’s been hanging around stage doors, and Brennan has a Roger Daltrey story that blows Em’s mind. If you want to message th...e show, email us at FrankOffTheRadio@AvalonUK.com or WhatsApp us on 07457 417 769. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 It's Frank off the radio, Franco. It's the Frankskinner podcast, don't you know? What if God was one of us? Just a slob like one of us. Speak for yourself. Just a stranger on the bus trying to make his way home. I can do plaintiff if I have to. Yeah?
Starting point is 00:00:30 But I'm not going to. this is Frank Off the Radio. I'm joined by Emily Dean and Brennan Reese. Remember her? Follow the podcast on X and Instagram. You can email the podcast via Frank off the radio, at Avalonukk.com. You can WhatsApp us.
Starting point is 00:00:46 And if you're going to do that. Now that Frank's not on the radio, just download the podcast. Away we go. So WhatsApp X. No. That's that out the way. That was epic.
Starting point is 00:01:23 It's really growing on me that. Is it? Yeah. Yeah. No, it's good. It is a good one. I, um... Hello.
Starting point is 00:01:31 Hello. Hi. Hello. Can we confirm? This is Brennan, Frank. It's actually, I've got it written on a whiteboard in the corner. He's got his tattooed on his bicep. Brennan, do you want to?
Starting point is 00:01:43 There's two problems with that. I don't have a bicep is the first one. No, he doesn't have biceps. And the second one is I don't have any tattoos. No. Just in case, the last minute I convert. Orthodox Judaism and I wouldn't be able to be buried in an Orthodox cemetery. I think that's right.
Starting point is 00:02:01 You also wouldn't be able to go into a Japanese onsen. A Japanese? Onson. That's the bath there where you go naked. I don't think you're allowed in with tattoos. Isn't that because tattoos are... Yakuza? Yeah, it's the sort of Japanese version of the mob have tattoos, I think.
Starting point is 00:02:20 Yeah. Oh, our knowledge of foreign cultures are coming out. And probably all wrong. Can we just have a moment of real honesty here? You called Brennan Reese a couple of times last week. Yes. And... That is his name.
Starting point is 00:02:37 That's his surname. Kind of. I know. I don't have a surname. That's the first name. And then everything's fine. But you're saying it like it's my choice. You have to write into my mum and dad about that.
Starting point is 00:02:47 People can change them. You don't call me Dean, though, do you? I don't call you Dean. No. I wish I could because then I could sing. the Dean and I by 10CC. I'd be happy for that. Humdrum days and humdrum ways.
Starting point is 00:03:02 Okay. When Brennan arrived this week, I cringed because I heard... What, that way too, dear. But, you know, some people go for that Breton look. I heard him talking and what did he suddenly say, Brennan? It began with B, but I'm not sure what the rest of it was. It was Brandon. I didn't call him Brandon.
Starting point is 00:03:25 You said Brannon, Frank. Well, Brannan, he's bloody out. It's in the ballpark. Oh, my God. Anyway, welcome. Brennan. It's so nice to be back, honestly. I feel so welcome.
Starting point is 00:03:40 No, you are welcome. Don't mistake me getting your name wrong. It's always one of those names that falls between two stools. What do you mean? Well, Brennan and Brandon and Brannan and then having a first name for, a second name and all that. I mean, it's like a pos... It is.
Starting point is 00:03:59 It's like, you know those box? You know the box in the Da Vinci Code? Oh, it's not like that. That nobody could open. It's like that. Is that me? Well, that's your name. Not fair.
Starting point is 00:04:09 I'll take that. I wouldn't say it's like you. Emily, when you used to cook up for me and Frank, when you don't, it feels like my mum and dad are splitting up again. No, but I... Oh, it does it? You know, the again in that sentence
Starting point is 00:04:20 caught me like a knife. Anyway... I like to think we'd have a no-form. fault divorce. They're very big now, Frank. They're no fault divorce. Well, saying it's no one's fault. Well, you don't literally say it to no one's fault. But yeah. Well, don't call it a no fault. What is it? You're playing a game of tennis. It essentially, what I'm saying is that's not the entire process in the court. As people say, it's no one's fault and leave. What happens is you're sort of saying as well, sometimes people
Starting point is 00:04:49 don't involve lawyers? Because after all, they get a lot of the money, don't they? I've heard that. Yeah There's a bit in the New Testament where Jesus really piles in on lawyers Does it? He really says you just put a terrible burden on it, people and don't help them with it at all.
Starting point is 00:05:07 He names them as lawyers I mean obviously says it in our remake. Oh, okay. But I'm not here to pick hairs. You wouldn't trust a lawyer in a toga though, would you? I don't think they'd have had a toga. A gown? Well, let's call it a gown.
Starting point is 00:05:22 A smock. Well, that's a good question. What did lawyers wear in biblical times? They do wear gowns now, don't they? Yes, they do. Okay. Okay. Right.
Starting point is 00:05:32 We know so much about the legal system here. That's why we're here. The rest is law with Frank Skinner. No, because there was a famous case of a woman who barrister who claimed her robes and her wig against tax. She said, I shouldn't have to pay tax on this because it's work clothes. That's fair enough. It's like steel-to-cut boots.
Starting point is 00:05:52 It's absolutely. fair enough, but she lost. Did she really? Not a great lawyer then, is she if she lost? Well, she... Yeah, I don't know. If she defended herself, she should have defended herself, but just in her bra and knickers
Starting point is 00:06:05 saying, I can't afford... I can't afford me out there. Is this what you wanted? Here we go. Are you not entertained? This is what you've reduced me to... Your witness. Oh, I tell you what, I went to a play.
Starting point is 00:06:21 Lovely. Culture the game. Called Affluenza. Oh, is it based on the Oliver James book? I don't know what that means. Okay, it means it's a book, you know what those are, and it's written by Oliver James. Yeah, I want to need more than that to know if it's based on it.
Starting point is 00:06:37 Okay. What's Oliver James' book based on? It's based on the concept of affluenza. Well, I hadn't heard. How are you reading Affluenza? Affluenza is about how we've essentially become too obsessed by things and possessions and money and status? Well, this is slightly, this one I think...
Starting point is 00:06:56 The private jet disease in a way. I thought it was the thing that killed me, nan. Oh, yeah. This was aimed more at, I think it was quite a North London theme. I'm in. The idea is that some children are born into privilege and they are so looked after, so guarded, so given the easy path by the...
Starting point is 00:07:21 their parents that they have no sense of right or wrong. My kind of people. Yeah. And so this character, he kills some people in a car crash. He gets drunk when he's 60 and gets in a car and kills some people. And they get him off in court. In court.
Starting point is 00:07:39 By saying it was affluenza, it wasn't his fault. His parents didn't give him a sense of right and wrong. So that's where it's about. And it's really good. I really liked it. Guardian didn't. But the Guardian doesn't like anything. What's wrong?
Starting point is 00:07:51 with me. I can honestly say I've never ever even bought a guardian. They got, well, in a list of things that didn't shock me. That was right up there. What's your paper of choice if you had to? This is the man who said to me, not 20
Starting point is 00:08:07 minutes ago. What is socialism? I've signed up now, though. Can you sign up? I've signed up on socialism.org. But I was a paper boy. Never delivering the guard. I like the emphasis on that. I was a paper boy. It's like you with Star Wars. It sounds like a boy made from paper.
Starting point is 00:08:26 Yeah, that's who I was. Oh, okay. And which one, if you had to buy a newspaper, I appreciate your generation don't buy papers. Which one if you had to? I don't know what one still exist, but my paper of choice as a 12, 13-year-old, I used to take the page threes out of them and then take them home.
Starting point is 00:08:47 So I could have them myself. Oh, disgusting. We'll leave that story. Where it is. back in the past. Yeah. There wasn't a page three in the Guardian, was there?
Starting point is 00:08:55 Well, there was a page three. You'd have gone something to get a rose. I love words. Yeah, exactly. But so anyway, we saw, I took my child. And what we did afterwards was my kid, Boz, absolutely love strangers.
Starting point is 00:09:21 things. Oh, yes, he does, doesn't he? I love stranger things, but I think when teenagers love it, it's like, there are certain things that happen about that time in your life. Like, I got into Bob Dylan when I was 17, and I still slightly, I felt at the time nobody gets him like I do, I still feel that weird allegiance, even though the last 20 times I've seen him, he's been shit. I'm going to see him again in December.
Starting point is 00:09:49 Oh, no. Oh, no. Oh, no. I know I still, I just like to see him. It's like visiting an elderly relative. I understand. Once a year, new Christmas. Yeah, as long as the windows.
Starting point is 00:10:00 Anyway, so, Boz, Noah Schnap, who plays the boy who's been affluenzaed. He was in stranger things. He was Will Byers, right? So, Boz said to him at the end, do you think they do that stage door here, thing? As if it had just occurred to him. And I said, I hadn't thought of that, but they might do.
Starting point is 00:10:25 So we got to the stage door. It just happened to have a red Sharpie with him, might buy some coincidences. Oh, this is brilliant. This is premeditated. Totally. So we were waiting. I would say there was probably 60 people waiting. Yes, the stage door has become such a big thing now.
Starting point is 00:10:43 It's a little online thing. It's like a YouTuber you can visit, isn't it? Yes, yeah. When I say 60, that's all I could see. There were people behind this. Probably three figures. Wow. Did you use your celebrity?
Starting point is 00:10:54 No. Oh, Frank. I didn't. So we were just standing there. And then Boz, and then Jeanette, I'm going to get a name right. Jeanette Manrara. Very good. You said it right.
Starting point is 00:11:07 From Strickley. Do you know her? No. She's lovely. I interviewed her, Frank, on my podcast. I loved her. Well, I'll tell you something about Jeanette Manrara. You get that name right.
Starting point is 00:11:18 Yeah, you really put some effort into that one. She's not even here. I feel I can tell you this in confidence. Oh dear. I assume that everyone who certainly the dancers, the professionals, on Strictly are a grinning falls. Oh.
Starting point is 00:11:43 Because they just stand grinning like that. I think the problem is, is that they come from a way. world where when you dance, you're supposed to be grinning like that. Yes. As if you have no evaluation of the world and no inner life. But it's all right because the dance is three minutes and then you can go and be a human being.
Starting point is 00:12:04 Yeah, yeah, yeah. But when you turn into a two and a half hour show with speech and stuff. Oh, so she was in the play? So she was in the play, yeah. But she used to be strictly, and then she was the presenter on the spinoff. Oh, yeah, yeah. Anyway, so I thought. Oh God, what is she going to be like in the play?
Starting point is 00:12:23 Anyway, she was brilliant. And she played about four parts. Because the review in the Guardian said, I couldn't follow it. There was people playing multiple parts. And I thought, oh, that revolutionary idea. Bloody Shakespeare. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:38 Yeah. He must have hated the nutty professor. Yeah. Why didn't they spend 500,000 pounds and get like a cast of Haiti? I mean, yeah, is the Guardian not familiar with that concept? I didn't feel, I couldn't follow the plot. It was like different people playing different parts. They were doing different voices.
Starting point is 00:12:58 Anyway, Jeanette played about four people. And was she good? She was great. Oh, so pleased. So she came out and she said, Boz got her autograph. And then there was some people who were Spanish, and she went into the way, I'd have, I'd have straight into that.
Starting point is 00:13:12 And I love that. Yeah. Because I never quite believe they really speak a different language. But when you hear them doing it, you think, oh, no, it's convincing. Yeah. And she is married to Aliash. Oh, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:25 Yes, lovely couple. He wasn't there. He's busy with Strickley. Exactly. So I was very impressed by her. Anyway, then, noish nap comes out. Boz realized during halfway through Jeanette Manreira's signature that the old red sharpie wasn't quite as inky as he thought it wasn't.
Starting point is 00:13:50 And it was like, oh, look, it's not, I've brought my bed isn't working. And there was a very sweet girl and said, you couldn't borrow mine. So the two of them stood together. But what people were doing, no-ishnap comes out, people, I mean, girls were literally sobbing at the sight of him. Like beetlesomedia? A bit like Beatlemania. But they weren't screaming. Just sobbing.
Starting point is 00:14:16 Have you ever had anyone sob at the sight of you, Frank? That is not a loaded question. I can't remember anyone ever sobbing at the sight of me. I reckon in those days with Bidiel, there must have been at those bigger, you know, you were huge, you guys. I know, but so were our fans. Not the sort of people, they'd cry.
Starting point is 00:14:40 Cry. Well, they were male. I remember seeing a man. I was driving through the West End on a Saturday night. There was a man who had a T-shirt on and it had Skinner No, 9 on the back. It was fantasy football merch. And he was threatening the seams, let's put it that way.
Starting point is 00:14:59 And he was sitting in the gutter being sick. Looking at the stars. He didn't bother to move his feet. He was just sick onto his triness. And I thought, there you have, there you have my followers. That's better than sobbing. I want to see, like, actual sick leaving gobs. Yeah, anyway, so what it meant was that they were saying, they were crying all over him.
Starting point is 00:15:26 And of course, he had to say all that, you know, and they're saying, you know, you were so important to me and all that. And then he had to sign something, he had to do with photos. And then they gave him sweets. Don't eat the sweets. Well, that's always been Frank's rule. So they just got round to us. And there's Buzz. He's got, this girl says you can have the pen first.
Starting point is 00:15:47 So sweet. And so there he is. Noah's there. And he signs the people in front. And Boz, I can see Buzz starting to get. And Noah says, anyway, sorry, guys, I've got to go now. And they're just there holding the pair of the pro. And I can't blame Noah Snap. He did about 40 minutes.
Starting point is 00:16:08 So Buzz didn't get the autograph. So he didn't. We need to fix this. No, no, we can't fix it. We've got to. No. Well, stick around. I'll sign it.
Starting point is 00:16:16 Hold on. I haven't finished. There have been no Bob the best. Builder if you had that attitude, we can't fix it. Can I say? I mean, that wouldn't be a show that we'd get a second series. No one's waiting at stage door for Bob the Builder. No, there were people, I think when the village people played,
Starting point is 00:16:31 there were people waiting to knob the builder. Don't tell Donald Trump. He thinks they're a wholesome family bad. Well, they are. Well, they are if you grow up in my family. If you grew up in a broad-minded family. Yeah. It's a blended family.
Starting point is 00:16:43 Have you heard of homosexuality? Oh, yeah. Okay. Not socialism, but homosexuality. I'm having a look, and this Noah Schna, I don't know, it's probably inappropriate. He's a very attractive young man. Can I make it clear, though? I mean, he did, he gave himself to the fans.
Starting point is 00:16:59 I think he just got, he burnt out. He did that. It was not like he came out and said, I can't do it. Anyway, so I don't, we still like him. Okay, fine. Then, this is a part two to this. I went to the palladium last night. We're recording this on Wednesday morning.
Starting point is 00:17:26 I went to the Palladium, London, to see Alice Cooper on a book tour. Extraordinary. Who was interviewing him? Arthur Brown. Oh, I know Arthur Brown. Do you? Well, I think if he's the person I'm thinking, I'm thinking of a comic, but that's wrong, is it? No. Arthur Brown.
Starting point is 00:17:45 Arthur Matthews, I'm thinking. Arthur Brown sang a song called Fire. Oh, yes. I am the God of Hellfire, and I bring. You fire. I want you to burn. That's Arthur Brown. That's Arthur Brown.
Starting point is 00:18:03 So how old are we talking? 70s? George Bond interview, 3,000. Really? Why? I mean, he was great. He was hilarious.
Starting point is 00:18:13 But he did feel like I've been in rock and roll a long time. Just bit withered. Well, just a bit out of it. Oh, fair. But lovable. Yes. And it was, you know, and you could tell Alice loved him. So there'd be a question would be answered and there'd be like a 20 second silence.
Starting point is 00:18:32 And I can imagine some people getting a bit, myth, but Alice just, you know, it's fine. Like a Zoom chat? You know when there's a gap and it doesn't quite, is that? Well, Alice seems to become a bit zen, I find. Would you say that's true? Well, you know, I had a very weird, I must have told you about my weird experience. Tell, I was interviewing Alice Cooper. I used to have a chat show for your time.
Starting point is 00:18:55 That's depressing. Before my time. Yeah. On the speakies. Before time. And I was interviewing Alice Cooper. And in the midst of the interview, I felt the most pure
Starting point is 00:19:11 wave of love for him. I mean, the sort of love will feel for each other when we're in heaven. Wow. It was absolute. I just, it was, I read. I've rarely felt it in life. I believe the Greeks called the Agapy.
Starting point is 00:19:29 Love it. But I didn't say anything to him. I didn't say, sorry Alice said. I'm just going to say I felt this tremendous unadulterated love for you. Because, A, it would tarnish his image. Yeah, he'd freak out a bit. So I didn't mention it. But it was weird.
Starting point is 00:19:47 Anyway, and then when my kid got into Alice Cooper, sort of accidentally years and years later, just by hearing poison on the radio, It was weird. So we went there and Alice did the interview and he's telling stories from, some brilliant stories from, the book is going to be great
Starting point is 00:20:03 because he's met everyone and done everything. It's a story he tells about Elvis. And I love an Elvis story. Oh, I love an Elvis. He goes to Gracelands to meet Elvis. And Elvis says, can I talk to you on your own, else? And he says, yeah, sure, yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:24 They go into the kitchen. And Elvis goes in the kitchen drawer and gets out of 38, you know, gone. Yeah. And he gives it to Alice. And Alice is thinking, I don't know what's happening here. And Alice said, I've always had this devil. The book's called The Devil on My Shoulder. He said, I've always the devil on my shoulder was saying, kill him.
Starting point is 00:20:48 Just kill him. And he said, the angel at my other shoulder was saying, No, shoot him But don't tell him Because Name him Because Alice Cooper shoot it It's the best publicity
Starting point is 00:21:01 You could ever have in your life He's not going to have another single out though after that is it? No So the next thing He knows He's on the kitchen floor With Elvis's boot on his throat And Elvis is saying to him
Starting point is 00:21:15 Oh that's how you disarm Someone who's got a guy So So Alice says, thank you. Every day was different with Elvis. You never knew what you'd get. It gets madder. That's not in the film, is it?
Starting point is 00:21:33 So Elvis helps Alice up from the kitchen floor. It's just still, you said, do you want to see my most prize possession? And he said, yeah. He says, so they're going to, Elvis text him into his bedroom. And Alice is starting to think, hold on. Yeah. Mouse priced possession
Starting point is 00:21:54 what's coming out. So Elvis goes over to the drawer and he gets out this big envelope. And it's full of X-R-R-Roy's got X-rays in it. And he says, I was in a car park last night. And it wasn't last night, last week or something. He said, and there was a couple of cowboys started bare-mouthed me. I said of the guys, leave these two to me.
Starting point is 00:22:26 He said, so I went over and I beat the hell out of a pair of them. He said, but I have contacts at the hospital. So these are the, I broke that collarbone. I broke, I broke that. That's just one of the ribs I broke. And he got souvenir x-rise of his victims. And that's his most prized possession. Not the gold and platinum did.
Starting point is 00:22:51 past his daughter on the stairs. Where's my fucking X-Rey? So it was full of stuff. It was a brilliant night. So after, as we're leaving... Is it you and Boz? She's me and Boz again. And someone said,
Starting point is 00:23:09 yeah, the stage door is around there and I thought, oh, it's going to be another stage door job. We're going to have Sharpie gate all over there. Yeah, so we got to the stage door. He's brought all the colours this time. All the different sharpies. There's a similar amounts of people, but they are much old.
Starting point is 00:23:27 Yeah. Yeah. No one, I didn't think anyone was going to be crying. Yeah, you could push that age out the way, couldn't you? Put it this way. There's white roots with the black hair. Let's leave it there, Frank. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:23:38 At the others, there was black roots on the white hair. This is white roots on the black hair. And can I just say something here? This is a situation where I really think you need to throw your weight around for buzz. because you know Alice, I think he'd know who you are. But I interviewed him 20 years ago. I know, but you've got to have more confidence in yourself. Yeah, but Frank, we're all getting on.
Starting point is 00:24:01 Anyway, I didn't do that. I would have made you. No, two in a week. So I cued up. He's very humble and I love that about him. I don't think it's, oh, I don't know. You are, Frank. I think, not Elvis, he wasn't there.
Starting point is 00:24:16 I have, thank God, what was that to be. He was beating up the door stuff at Royal Drory Lane. Looking at x-rays. So after about 45 minutes standing outside. 45 minutes? Yeah. Yeah. It should be like Argos or the Butchers where you get a ticket.
Starting point is 00:24:33 I know it should be. So I was talking to a woman next to me who was telling me she'd written her autobiography, 350 pages. Wow. But I couldn't. Who was she? She's a celebrity. She never mentioned that.
Starting point is 00:24:50 I don't know if she was or not. Okay. Anyway, I don't think she was. No. I mean, a celebrity wouldn't just be hanging around by the stage door waiting for Alice Koo. Imagine. Imagine a celebrity doing that. So, anyway, this woman, who was confident, said, there was a bloke on the door with one of those things in his ear.
Starting point is 00:25:10 You know, that security have. She said, excuse me? And he looked across like he couldn't believe anyone had spoken to him. She said, is Alice good? going to come out. And he went to, no, no, he left about 45 minutes ago. He went out there. And I said, mate, did you consider bringing that up at any point?
Starting point is 00:25:34 And he just looked at me like, he had no idea what I meant by that. Why does he think you're all standing now? I would have taken him two seconds to say, guys, just to let you know he has gone. Yeah. So, twice in a week, posse is walking. But I tell you what was great about this is after the Elvis story, Alice Cooper, who I love, I love not only in that way, but I do love Alice Cooper, as does my son.
Starting point is 00:26:01 And I'll forgive him anything. And he didn't do anything wrong, but he said, he said, you see what Elvis has done is that he, he did, he isolated him, fame made him a prisoner. He was isolated by fame. and Arthur Brand saying, what? And he said, you see, with me, you'll see me out, you'll see me walking in the street.
Starting point is 00:26:28 I'll do the selfies, I'll sign the autographs, you know, it doesn't bother me, but obviously I say, yeah, so then we went in 45 minutes, it's fucked off. No sign of Alice. When I was 18, I actually saw Alice Cooper in the wild. In Birmingham. Where was he?
Starting point is 00:26:46 Oh, wow. This is a sentence. Why was he born, Alice Cooper? Not sure. Detroit. Oh, I love that you know that. He was in the Top Man in Birmingham Bullring. That is the best thing I've ever heard.
Starting point is 00:27:00 He was doing a show that night and he was buying black t-shirts. He was buying two for 10 quid. Of course. There was no prime mark. There was no prime. I love him. I love that he went to Topman and didn't send an assistant out for that. And I remember being in there.
Starting point is 00:27:19 I just sort of, do you know, like, celebrities give off a vibe? Even if you don't know them, you just like, they give off a vibe. And I was thinking, that man shouldn't be in here. Did he have makeup? Does he wear makeup offstage, Alice? Can you remember? I don't remember. Does he not?
Starting point is 00:27:36 Whenever I've seen, because you can imagine Bos has shown me 400,000 YouTube clips of him arriving at golf tournaments and stuff like that. Yeah. And now he's got, on this interview, he talks about Alice as if it's in the third person. That's a character that he's on stage. Oh, okay. He said the only other time we use in the recording studio, the producer, he's worked with the same producer for years and he'll say,
Starting point is 00:28:03 it needs a bit more Alice, the vocal. Like the character of Alice. So no, he doesn't wear the makeup off. So he wouldn't have had the makeup. And does he have a long, suffering partner? His wife kills him on stage every night by a guill. He kills her.
Starting point is 00:28:21 Oh, she's involved. Then she guillotines him. But she was there last night with the daughter. Yeah, and all that. So, yes, twice in a week. But I still love them both. That's what counts. It might be for the best, though,
Starting point is 00:28:36 because I remember once when I got to introduce my mum to one of her childhood heroes and it did not go to plan. Really? So years ago, I did. a musical tour with The Who when I was like 21. What? I know.
Starting point is 00:28:50 So they did a stage show. Who are you, Dave Gilmore or something? I am Dave Gilmore. You've just been saying my name wrong. Take that back. So why were you... As long as you're not Roger Waters. No, no.
Starting point is 00:29:04 I'm not. Oh, he's a bit problematic, is he? A little bit. Okay, fine. I don't think he said what socialism is either. Maybe national socialism. Oh, I see what you mean. Carry on.
Starting point is 00:29:17 So tell us about you and who. I was about 21, 22, and they did a stage version of quadrophenia. And it was the band played. Literally. Yeah. It was amazing. But I just didn't really realize because I was 21. So we went around the UK and Pete Townsend was always there.
Starting point is 00:29:37 Roger Daltry sometimes. And my mum met Pete Townsend. It wasn't really that fuss, but she was obsessed with Roger. adultery when she was like 16. Well, everyone was dear. Handsome man. Still got it as well. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:51 Has he still got the stammer? I don't know. Has he got a stammer? No, that's Tommy. No, no. Tommy didn't. Tommy was mute. You know that?
Starting point is 00:30:01 Why don't you just fade away? We all know, no, no, no. They're like, carry on. See. More Alice. And basically, they were doing a tour, about a year later. You say Rick Morales?
Starting point is 00:30:17 No, go on. They were doing a tour about a year later and... You were the support? No, I wasn't the support. Me just doing stand-up about me more. I thought you said you were on the tour with them. So I was on the Quadrophenia stage show tour.
Starting point is 00:30:28 Oh. And then they did a... What were you doing on that? I was one of the performers in it. I was... A child? I wasn't a child. Still out of it.
Starting point is 00:30:38 There's no children in Quadrophenia. I mean, they're like late teens. Well, they're sort of teenage. Late teens. I'm going to call them too. So I was one of the late teen children. Right. Were you a mod?
Starting point is 00:30:50 I was a mod. I was like the youngest one in it and we toured around. Trouble is, you've got a target on your back, haven't you? Oh, very good. Very good. So they do a tour that year after, like an arena tour. And I managed to get some tickets that they sorted out for us to go. And my mum is just not equipped for those situations.
Starting point is 00:31:11 So before and she's just getting pissed on the free bar backstage. And then she just kept asking the security guy, when's Roger going to come out? And they were like, he'll come out after the show. This is backstage. This is backstage. And there's like a nice little set up. There's people waiting.
Starting point is 00:31:27 And then after the show, my mum bursts in. And she's like, when's Roger? And they're like, he'll come out. And then after about 20 minutes, it was a similar situation where they go, Roger's in a bad mood. Because sometimes he went in a bad mood. And he's not going to come out. And my mum was gutted.
Starting point is 00:31:42 Oh, she? But then my mum can, any, anybody, where she can get a free thing, she will do it. So she went up to the tour manager and she said, we've been told that we'd get some free merchandise. And I'm literally like, oh, no. She said there was a parker on the merch store. That's like £300.
Starting point is 00:31:55 They said we could have it. And was that true? It was true. Was it handed over the parker? So the tour manager said, okay, I'll sort this out. So he took us backstage of the backstage. Right.
Starting point is 00:32:07 So we're just in a corridor. And as we're waiting, and my mum's leathered, Roger Daltry comes around the corner. and my mum turns into a 16-year-old girl and she's just going... Oh, God, yeah. You know what those late teens? Frank, can we just say?
Starting point is 00:32:23 And she was just... She was going, oh my God, it's Roger Dawley. It's Roger Dawes. She runs over to him, dives on him, and he's just loving it because my mum is an attractive lady. Yeah. Oh, you've got one of those young moms.
Starting point is 00:32:36 She's actually, she's 72, but this was 20 years, about 15, 20 years ago. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah. Still got it. Still fit for a mom. Not my mum. Okay, that was the sentence I didn't think I'd say.
Starting point is 00:32:46 And then back to therapy. And then they're chatting away. And then he recognises me from doing the tour. And then she goes... You recognise you from the tour? Yeah. Oh, brilliant. That's good.
Starting point is 00:32:58 And then she goes, I've loved you. I've always loved you. Can I have a kiss? Oh, it's quite over the top, Brandon. And then he looked to me and he went, do you mind? I thought you were the boyfriend. And I just went, yeah. And then my mum and Roger Daltry just had a snog.
Starting point is 00:33:14 A snog in the corridor. As I'm stood there as a third wheel. What, did they properly kiss? Yeah. Are you joking? And then he said, why don't we just? She said, no, I can't. She was married.
Starting point is 00:33:30 So you make it so sleazy. But it's fairly sleazy. It is fairly sleazy. I always say no to kissing. Hang on. Oh. That's why I was here. From fans.
Starting point is 00:33:43 Like a sex worker. Yeah. Sit on your hands. Yeah. This is just for love. Frank, aren't you quite shocked by this? I didn't think this story.
Starting point is 00:33:52 I'm not really. I've heard worse stories about rock stars. No, but I didn't think it was going to end in a full blown kiss in front of the shot. I interviewed Roger Daltry. He was a real laugh, I must have. And I said to you, I said to him, I said, look, I'm going to bring this up. But when I used to have NME and sounds and. that every week. Whenever there was a picture of viewing it, you're in Tweed Jack in Wellington's walking around your throat farm. I said, have you still got a trout farm? And he said,
Starting point is 00:34:20 a thing is, Frank, and he went into a harangue about how taxes have destroyed the throat business. Oh, here we go. He's one of those. He's not a socialist. He was great, actually. He was really entertaining. That's what my mum said. Well, yeah, I was going to say. He didn't, at the end, he absolutely. He absolutely, he absolutely, Absolutely tong looking down. He did. I think we sure can't. That's amazing.
Starting point is 00:34:47 And I thought, do you know what? Fair play to me, mum. Yeah, fair play to him. She's only met a couple of famous people. What did she say off? I bet she was on Cloud 9. Well, we went to a bar afterwards. She was just telling anyone in a Who t-shirt,
Starting point is 00:35:01 I've just snuggrodrodrodrodrodot. What were you doing when this was going on? I'm worried that Mrs. Daltry is listening to this. I'm going, hold on a minute. Roger! Well, let's not be specific about the timeline, and that way everyone's protected. The big question is, did she, Roger Daltry?
Starting point is 00:35:18 Cry? No, Daltry, Roger Daryl. Oh, Beryl, fantastic. Oh, my God. If I was scripting it, I would have gone for your mom's name being Beryl. Roger and Beryl. Next time I can't remember your name. I'm going to go for Beryl.
Starting point is 00:35:33 Do it. So that'll be next week. Yeah. I don't answer that. Oh, it's over, actually. We'll leave it there. I don't think I got your name wrong once, did I? No, but you didn't get it right.
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