The Frank Skinner Show - Houndstooth Harrington

Episode Date: February 7, 2025

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It's Fred off the radio, featuring him and that posh lady-o And the one with the French name, from South Africa came They're all here, open brackets, hooray! Close brackets today! Oh brother James, have you heard the decree? Lily Bolero bullin' a law That we shall have a new deputy, bollin a lot. Hi guys This is Frank off the radio I'm joined by Emily Dean and PN evently follow the podcast on X and Instagram

You can email the podcast via wait for it Frank off the radio at Avalon uk.com Morning morning. What do you think when I was in school as a very tiny child, I started school at five. Okay. There was no nurseries and stuff then. You were home school that was it. So we used to start the day with a radio program which always began with Lily Bolero, that song. Was there a children's dedicated radio show then? Well, there was Listen With Mother originally. I'm afraid Mother didn't get up before 11.

No, well, no. My mother had about three jobs she worked at. But anyway, we listened with her in mind. And yeah, I think that's where I got my taste for traditional folk music was that program. Now I look back on it. What a lovely insight. Is that as Lily Bolero a folk song? Yeah.

But it's some political thing. Hey brother James, have you heard the decree that we should all have a new deputy? It's gotten historically something like James the second or something like that going on. Is it? Because Lily Ballera, I have to be honest, it does sound a bit like she might be on Onlyfans. Oh yeah. Yeah. Someone was telling me a thing or the other.

I had dinner. Oh, Frank, it's so bad. I was at a lovely sort of middle class dinner and somebody asked me about some woman who's had sex with a thousand people. Oh Bonnie Blue. Bonnie Blue, that was it yeah. Yeah. Which is a shame because that was Rhett Butler's lovely daughter's name and I feel it's been... No. Well it was, what made it worse is we were having chicken Kiev. Anyway, here's the thing I saw. How did you do this? Well, you brought it up.

I didn't bring that up. Well, you led me. I led you to the Kiev. Is it Keev we say now? True, no. I think we do. We're not in our house. Okay. I'm giving up that syllable for no one. with not in our house. I'm giving up that syllable for no one. Yeah I can't cope with the names changing all the time, what difference does it make? I got in a camp the other day

and the guy said I'm Persian. I thought well where are we? If he's saying it. Why do you object to someone referring to themselves as Persian? I don't object to that at all, it's his choice, but I mean if I said, if he said to me I'm from Iran and I said oh you're Persian, he would have stopped the car. But then would you be sensitive if someone said, because this black country Birmingham thing, is there some sensitivity around that? Well I'm less confident nowadays in Londoners saying I'm from the black country, because they think I'm being racist.

Oh, OK. Oh, I see. And then you have to explain it to do with certain industrialization. And they don't want to hear about that in the Southeast. They like the engineering things to appear, but they don't want to know how they were formed. No. I suppose the Persian equivalent would be you saying that you're from Mercia.

Yeah, exactly. Well, I think it's a bit more recent than that. I watched the fabulous... Persian sounds very exotic though, doesn't it? That's the thing. Well, I saw a documentary which opened with the Shah of Persia driving his own white convertible with shades on, and man, he looked super cool. Yes.

In the way that the current leaders... He sort of became, I know this may sound, I don't know how inappropriate this may sound, but he did become a sort of tabloid celebrity a bit in the seventies. Well it was a documentary about a massive party that he threw where people came from all over the world and it was one of these where they cooked a louse inside a sparrow, inside a rabbit, inside a culminating in some blue whale. Oh yes. Yeah.

One of those. Look like a great party if you like horrible people. Anyway, I was walking in last time, and I don't mind them, for anecdotal purposes. I don't want to affront any of the horrible people listening. I think I established the other day, I've seen a survey that said 62% of the population are unpleasant. Unpleasant. So have you heard of slow-mo? I aim this at Emily because you're a sort of a spa kind

of a woman. Oh, I love a spa. Slow-mo. We're not plugging it by the way. No we're not, just in case anyone thinks this is a read. Slow mo? I don't know, I only know slow mo. I tell you what it says, because I walked in there was a massive, this is that last time I walked into Spirit Land, can I say I walked into Spirit Land today with shades on and I was completely accepted into the fold. For the first time nobody questioned me, I looked uneasy that an old man had come in. It's weird you should say that because I've lost possibly four pounds since we were last

here and they were so much nicer to me. Have you looked at the back of the sofa? Frank, they were so much nicer to me since I've lost at the back of the sofa? Frank, they were so much nicer to me since I lost about four pounds. Oh no, that can't be right. It is right. Anyway. I need to get a disguise. You're either going to have to buy shades or lose four pounds. What if I shaved half my head? It's down the middle.

They would love that because that would make you a self-styled colourful character which they thrive on. Anyway, slow mo. So this, there's an arrow, a big 3D arrow that says sort of slow-mo this way. And I realised when I come in this week, it had moved a bit, so you can move it about this arrow. It's like a wheel arrow.

Anyway, I thought it's massive. Have you noticed it? I'm gonna show you guys a picture of it. Looking at Slow Mo. Oh, Slow Mo this way. Giant moveable arrow. Slow Mo sounds like the sort of person I would have gone to school with and his dad would have been an artsy director or something. Oh, that would have been a... Slow Mo. Well, what I thought would be brilliant is if I spotted someone who I knew to be on the witness protection Program and just walk behind them with the wheel arrow Just a massive point or if I saw a man who'd gone a bit of a wee patch on his trousers

Just go and get the arrow put it right up against it It's fantastic. It's like it's given us living graphics. Yeah like a little red circle and a tabloid. Keep graphics live. Why do you think they call it slow-mo? That's what Frank says. I don't know why they call it slow-mo. I suppose it's one of those where everything's very relaxed. You see I actually find, controversially I find spas anything but relaxed. Do you? Yeah I'm going off the spot. Are you not at home in a robe? Oh well I'm obviously at home in a robe but I just find something about the process of it because I'm quite a noisy

person and they don't like that in spas and I sometimes come in all bustling going hello sorry I'm a bit late. and he goes shhh. Oh yeah. Don't interrupt the wail. The gong bath. Spars aren't for extroverts, Frank. No, but do they have wail music? They do have wail music. That's not a myth.

Of course they have wail music. It's all about wail music. I went in a Persian spa and there's wail music going, ah, get me sparrows out of me, not the cow, not the cow. So, there's a Thames water are operating outside my house at the moment. We've got a burst water main in the middle of the street and I had, right at the beginning of this, I had a similar incident to this which I told you about. This guy said to me, I went and asked if he was going to cut the water off

and whether we should be filling our saucepans. And he said, it won't be till after nine o'clock. By the way, I listen to you every Saturday morning. Ah! Oh, what? Well, I didn't react like that. What a liar. I don't think he means he listens to the podcast every Saturday morning, does he? He means I heard your radio show once four years ago. Oh, that's so embarrassing. Or he thinks John Richardson is me.

Because he's replaced me, John Richardson. He's saying, what if he'd said, you're a lot funnier since you've changed your accent? Much better. Shame to hear about all the OCD. Yeah, but the accent's brilliant. You look great in those cardigans. Yeah, if he said, oh, it's like when Jimmy Carr adopted that endearing giggle those years ago. It's really worked for you, the accent. And also you've got rid

of all that Doctor Who and Catholicism rubbish. It's a real makeover, you know. What if John Richardson is just doing a Frank Skinner voice? I don't know. I don't think he is. No, I think this bloke definitely thought I'd improved over the last few months. And I just let him, I let him believe it. Should I have said actually that wasn't me I can't take the credit. Do you know it's so much better now the show he's not going on about strange medieval monks. Exactly it's you know it's but you know. We wish them all well. Won't go so far as to say that.

Apologies. My curse upon thee is the phrase that seems to be coming to mind. Frank, can I just say I have to stop you and tell you how much I'm loving your jacket. Well. Can you describe it to the listeners? Well I can't describe it in its fundamental sense because I've had this for many years. And I've never worked out whether it's a jacket or a tracksuit top. It's a shacket.

So I wear it, currently I'm wearing it as if it was a tracksuit top, I wear a jacket over the top. But look, there's's no wait for it yeah that was it with the only fans the archers has gotten sexy what's she called Bonnie Bonnie Blue I don't suppose there's been any zips involved in Bonnie Blue if you got 45 seconds I came out with the most classic thing at the dinner. I'm only gonna say this because it's rubbish I say and everyone gets 45 seconds and I say what you get to have sex twice. It's that the old sort of truss Oh no, it's carry on

You get to have sex twice Look there's no lining or pockets inside Yeah, I would say that's... Hold it, hold it. You shouldn't have unzipped that. No, I actually would say that's in the top three of all the outfits you've ever worn. What? Do you like the accompanying t-shirt?

He's wearing a t-shirt. Can you explain it to the listener? Maybe we can take a picture for it and we can put it on our socials. Do you recognise it? No. I'm afraid I don't. It looks like some airline but made up for a fancy t-shirt, can you explain it to the listeners? Maybe we can take a picture for it and we can put it on our socials. Do you recognise it? I'm afraid I don't. It looks like some airline but made up for a fancy T-shirt. It is a sort of airline. It looks like, oh it's not a Doctor Who thing.

No, it's Thunderbirds and they were international rescue. That's why it's got a big IR on it. It's sort of... Silly speaking of Jimmy Carr, I saw him when I was wearing this t-shirt, he jumped into a hedge. Sorry it's odd. It's strange that the Thunderbirds, it's one of the best names. We are the Thunderbirds and we are all members of International Rescue. The driest possible United Nations organisation. I think the Thunderbirds are the vehicles. You've got to call it all Thunderbirds, don't you?

And International Rescue is the organisation. Which one does the man that we like belong to who says I'm only an old man? Oh no, that's Instingray, not Thunderbirds. Oh okay, that's different ray, not thunderbird. Oh okay, that's different. Yeah. I feel like Frank will never speak to you. Don't be ridiculous. International Rescue is vague enough that it's one of those things on James Bond's business card. Yeah, exactly.

You just go, oh that seems real. Welcome! Welcome to Cuba. It's sort of like an arms dealer's catch-all job title. But it's a good t-shirt though, isn't it? Oh yeah. I don't mind the t-shirt. They usually wear a blue, I don't know how you'd describe those hats, you know those sort of hats that sit on the side of a, maybe a waitress in an American diner would have a paper one. Yes. And they have the IR symbol on that. Yes, if any of our listeners know about those. I'd like to know the history of those hats. I think they might be called forage caps. Oh, okay. They're very military

looking. I associate them solely with thunderbirds and is there anything else? No, and attractive women on roller skates. World War II. In stuff like Americanffiti. Yes. Yes, yeah, yeah. Yeah. But anyway, congratulations on the Houndstooth Harrington. That's the pattern, Houndstooth. I also got, should I say, on the subject of Jerry Anderson's pop-it shows, of which Thunderbirds was was one I got a World Space Patrol technical operations manual. Oh I know. Was that for your birthday? Yeah. So Fireball XL5 wasn't even earlier a black and white actually. I remember I showed Buzz one when he was about seven and he'd never seen black and white telly before.

I said, what do you think? He said, oh, it's like a drawing. Anyway, it's brilliant because it's got cottaways in it. What, of the hands? No, cottaways. That's my favorite, the human hands. I don't know if you, this used to be a big thing

when I was a kid in comics and stuff, it's cut away. So you would get a spaceship and then part of it would be cut away so you could see inside it. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you know what I mean? I just bought my nephew a book of cross sections. Your kids can get those books where it's like inside a cruise ship.

Oh, Dorling Kindersley. That sounds like it. Dorling Kindersley did those for years, didn't they? Did they? This sounds like, that sounds like a Kotowai. Maybe we're just calling it something different. It's a bit like, you know when you see those sort of chiffon windows in sports leggings so you can see the actual leg. What's happened with those? They're sort of gauze panels. I don't fancy it much. I think it's been introduced to make them

sexier, am I wrong? Well what's the practical purpose of it? So you can check the skin tone of whoever's wearing it. Is it an aerodynamic or a sweat absorption thing maybe? Really? Imagine how Kanye West's girlfriend must see those and sneer at the mere gesture of see-through display.

Cowards! Bianca Sensori. Is she poor? Is she called Sensori? That's brilliant. Whatever the opposite of nominative determinism is. I feel for Bianca Sensori. I think there's something awful going on there.

Do you? I will say, it doesn't seem normal. Yes, it certainly does. Nothing about the situation seemed normal. What I'm talking about, she was at the Grammys this week, or whenever it was. I don't know when this podcast goes out. Two days ago. Help me, help me, Doctor.

Doc, Doc, Nurse! We need international rescue! Nurse! And she wore a chemise, sort of a chemise, totally see-through, like a chiffon scarf, what my mum would have worn, but as a dress. When she got home, did she say, oh, I'm just going to get this off and get relaxed and then come down with more clothes other than she went out in? What I didn't like, Frank, was that you heard him saying something along the lines of take it off now. Oh, did? Oh, I... That's a little bit more sinister.

Oh, no. I mean, imagine if you said that to Kath, how dare you? Well when I first went out with Kath, my partner, she used to wear very revealing stuff and I found... I had her body, I would have. No but I did have her body and I still felt very awkward about it. God. Sorry, sorry you led me into a... but I used to think people are looking at me and thinking me into a... But I used to think people are looking at me and thinking, what's he got her dressed like that for? And I would say to her, Catholic God, can you... We're not wearing much tonight. But as she said, she was very confident, very beautiful woman. It's empowering, Frank.

But I don't think she'd have gone Bianca... Sensory. Sensorship. Now, you think she'd have gone Bianca... Sensory. Sensorship. Now, you think she's... Oh, no, I hope that's not true. I worry there's something... Isn't she like, I got the idea. This could be completely wrong, that she's quite an intellectual woman.

Yes, she sort of has interest in the art community. Isn't she an art historian or something? Yes. But I think she might have been led down a complicated path. Oh no, well then we don't want to talk about them anymore. Well. What happened to the trainers? We got them. Still get them?

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Well they've all got names like that and of course I can't always remember them. Yes, it was Seamatt I believe. She was in the news for having her. Oh yes, Seamatt. She only had the top of her bum out. Yes. How things have escalated. I mean these days that's like a glimpse of stalking.

Oh it's Victorian. No but they weren't let in were they? Yeezy and the censor. They weren't invited. No they just turned up apparently. What? I think her outfit was his ticky. NFI. That's so weird.

That's what they said yeah. They had no business being there. So they showed up to be odd and then just go to survive guys and go home. Wouldn't it have been much? It's a bit like Franken-Iron, Oliver. Who would we have felt about it if he'd have been in just a pair of see-through boxes? It would have looked comical, wouldn't it? That would have been better though, wouldn't it?

Yeah. That would have been more balanced. If Kanye West had just showed up nude, he certainly wouldn't have done anything to dispel the rumours about him being mad. I think you're right though, Frank. It's the fact that it was just her. If they'd have both turned up nude, you're absolutely right. It would have been fine. If they'd have been in a see-through pantomime horse, if you can get those, he could get one made. I think he'd have to be at the back if you know what I'm saying. Otherwise you couldn't explain that thing at the front. Oh man, if they'd... See, that would have completely changed our view, wouldn't it? On Yeezy. We'd

have thought, what a great guy. I'd love to see the E Entertainment correspondents trying to make sense of it. Kanye West in a glass horse. It would have blown a hole in Chappell Rhone's Pink Pony. That wouldn't have even been on the first three pages. And who are they wearing exactly? It's a custom-made glass horse. It's not glass.

It has to be like chiffon. You know they have the money cam. They have a special money cam which checks out your shoes and your money on your pedicures like a pedicam and money cam. They would have had a hoof cam for the horse. They have money and pedicams. They're a glass horse. I mean, how would you get them into a glass horse and then you smash it at the end.

Yeah, big demonstration. His butler comes out with a sledgehammer to release them. Interviewing the horse. Who's shooing you? Who shod you tonight? Yeah, so you really are the main attraction tonight Yeezy. So, I thought, I thought, given how many... Let's hope he doesn't go to the bathroom though on the red carpet, they will do that the horse.

And I think that it will be allowed. Yeah, it'll be part of their protest. So CMAT. CMAT. I watched clips of the Grammys online and I realised I recognised almost no one. And some of the names I thought, that's not a real guy. This is someone doing a fake post and they were real I thought I was gonna test you guys and your culture knowledge because mine was

Okay, and the whether or not you think these are names of real artists who either act or performing at the Grammys Who are false? I'm up for this Frank. Okay, first of all, let's see. Dochi Okay, first of all, let's see, Doche. Doche sounds real to me. Is it spelled D-O-L-C-E? It's D-O-E-C-H-I-O. Oh, I thought it was Joe Dolche who had a hit with... Frank, that was 1981! Shut up, you're face! It was literally 1981.

What if he turned up at the Grammys nude? And Joe Dolche is also wearing nothing. What a comeback. Dolce has arrived with a golden bucket to clear up Kanye's excrement. This is a beautiful moment on the red carpet. And he's saying something about God and no respect. Okay, I'm going to say, I'm just gonna say yes it sounds real. It's real?

Good instincts? Okay. Okay. I think I had these album, um, mere trouble. That's too good, they couldn't come up with something like that. Okay, what about this one? Utah clone. No. No, I think made up as well.

Yeah, it's made up. Money long. Money long. Money long. What does that sound like Frank? Is that Josie Long's capitalist sister? Like never got on. Look, Ayn Rand level crazy. He's been lost for size. Oh no, imagine. Jean Cissat having the King's speech on and Josie's going, no, you capitalist monster. Actually she's going, you capitalist monster. Anyway.

Money long. What do you think? No. I'm gonna say yes. Yes. Money Long is real. No. Come on. This is... Teddy Swims. Yes, I've heard of Teddy Swims. I actually like Teddy Swims. I couldn't believe... He's a big fella with a good voice. Yeah. Are we allowed to say that? I think you're fine to say that. Why can't you say that? I don't know anymore. He's a big burly man. He looks like his name is Teddy Swims. Yes. He looks like a big sort of swimming bear. Yes, he looks like Teddy Swims and leaves a ring around the pool.

I'd like to see his noodle. Fine. Should we wait till the next year? God. Sarah. Oh, come on. I know. That shortest meeting ever to decide a name. Hold on, we'll come up with an act, just a second.

Sarah! Yeah, that'll do. No, I'm just calling for drinks. That can't be a person. Sarah! Yeah, that'll do. No, I'm just calling for drinks. That can't be a person called Sarah. You can't be a pop star or something. It's a lot of Steve Brooks, Steve, when they went, ladies and gentlemen, Steve. Well, you do get those. Look at Nimone. Yeah, but Nimone is not Steve. Yeah.

She never will be. I would say... No? You're saying no? Yeah. I would say yes to Sarah. It's made up. I just thought... No? You're saying no? I would say yes to Sarah. It's made up.

I just thought it was funny. I thought it was real. There's gotta be a carpool on call Sarah. Taj Mahal. Yes. How do you know these? How do you know Taj Mahal? Because Taj Mahal's been around for ages.

Not the actual Taj Mahal. Oh, now I know. But there used to be a band called Taj Mahal, which was a sort of a world progressive music jazz-funk fusion. Oh okay. Okay. Sassy Gillow. Definitely not. How dare you? We can't just do this for the whole day.

Okay last one, last one. Shaboosie. Hold on what about Sassy Gillow? Sassy Gillow wasn't really... No I thought not. Shaboosie. Shabooszy sounds right so don't think you dare make up an ethnic name it's not spelled ethnically I will spell phonetically oh okay is it real though it's real is he South African no

okay no no no Shaboozy is from parts unknown I think we did quite well I think you did really well yeah can you please tell me did you like the present I got you for your birthday I I loved it. Can you tell everyone what I got? Yes, I got I got it's a what I like it came in the post, but it was a real lumpy present Like a love shape it was like flat but with a big lump in the middle of it like it might be let's say half a Let's say half a... um...

avocado. So that they'd left the lump in the middle. You know when it looks like a spaceship? Yes. But it wasn't that. It was, I opened it up and it was a Jadoon action figure. From the Grammys, Jadoon. Now, Jadoon is a Doctor Who, well I suppose, I don't like calling them monsters. Can you still call them monsters?

Sarah. Now, the Jadoon is a sort of interplanetary police force, very officious, overly strict. Also rhinos for some reason. They look like rhinos. I remember these guys, big, lots of, lots of grey makeup and no necks. And very sort of Camden market apparel, you know, like black leather skirts and big boots. I thought you meant a t-shirt with a drawing of the Pope smoking a bifta. It's kind of like a spaceship, a spacesuit type thing that they wear. But they've got a big rhino head. Steve Krunk. Like a space suit type thing that they wear. I'm so, it's quite god.

But they've got a big rhino head. And it's interesting because I put it on the shelf for a while next to the... You know me and Buzz have sponsored a rhino. Oh, an actual rhino. We fell for one of those World Wildlife Fund adverts. But they had like a rhino with its horn cut off by poachers. And apparently they need to fund a sort of a paramilitary group to hunt down the poachers and execute them in an unofficial manner.

So they're raising money. That's very heartwarming. They're raising money for that. For the murders. So one of the things you get. You're raising money for murders. I've done that. At this point. That's lovely that you've got Buzz involved in that as well for the executions. I've asked if I can arrive on the scene riding the Yeezy and Centauri horse. Just coming through the, maybe the odd ladder in the shanks where we've gone through twigs and stuff.

But ladders would look great on the horse. Anyway, so, yes. At least you don't get those if you get dressed by Yeezy. So you get a Coddley Rhino when you sponsor. Oh, how lovely! You get a stuffed militiaman. A little eight inch figurine. Do you get a photograph of the people you've had executed? We got a cuddly rhino but someone had opened the jiffy bag and cut the horn off.

Oh god, funny. No. So we got a cuddly rhino and I put the Judoon next to that and it was almost as if a real rhino would take the middle lane between the waiters. It had branched off into a weird strange police force that could kill people and a lovely cuddly toy thing. Can I ask a rude question? I will. How much does it cost to sponsor your rhino? Is it a couple of pounds or something. No, it's a bit more than okay. It's a bit. I think we went deluxe Oh deluxe rhino sponsorship. Yeah, okay. Yeah, cuz did you name it? No, you don't you don't get it. It's not what you get. Well, you're slightly led to believe that you're adopting a rhino

But really you're just funding a militia. I'd love to get a card once a month from my militia member. Exactly. Killed two poachers last Tuesday. Thank you for the boots. My feet have been dry ever since. Yes. I'm closing ahead of a poacher that I killed three weeks ago.

The deed was mine but the vengeance is yours. Yours sincerely. I killed in your name. Just put it next to the in between the cuddly and the jadood suggesting justice and love operating side by side. Thank you so much. This will buy me so much ammunition this week. You're welcome man with a name from the Old Testament, almost certainly. Exactly. You're welcome, I've been in the go.

I once sponsored a child somewhere in Africa and he was called Agreement Phineas. Nice. Brilliant. That's great. Brilliant name. He's probably at university now. Oh, I love that. Good on him. That's probably at university now. Oh, I love it. That's what I say.

So I'm so glad that the Jadun went down well Frank. Yeah, it did. It was great. I loved it. And I've, you know you have this dilemma, especially our older Who fans, and any action figure person, to box or on box. But I unboxed. Did you unbox? Yeah because some people keep them in the box because they say well they might be wordsome but I don't want to have an action figure for financial reasons. I also don't want you leaving that as part of your will the embarrassment of and I leave my Jadoon. I'd be proud to leave a a Judoon to anyone. Yeah to be fair when I wrote it

was much better made than I feared. Oh it's great, it's chonky. Can I tell you some of my other press? Oh please do. I had a fantastic framed Batman post that sort of cartoon. I'd say animated series is probably based on. It's him, you know, he likes to, it's the bat signal is out and it's him atop, I said atop, a skyscraper. You know he loves to get up on top of a skyscraper and look out with his cloak billowing. I put it right above my bed so when I wake up in the morning it's the first thing I see. You're inspired to commit acts of your own vigilantism. Yes. Although it's a, I did think that thing of sitting on the tops of buildings looking out

across Gotham, there must have been, it's the bat signal. And then when he gets there they say, Batman we've already, they've got away, you know. They left ages ago, they've took away you know they left ages ago they've took all the money killed three people and he says yes sorry the the lift wasn't working I was on top of I was on top of the Wrigley building I found myself a bit well why did you go up there in the first place we got crime it's a crime thing we don't get many people like flying in you know I just it's this thing I do where I you know when your clothes really be like no I don't wear a club yeah he's never interrupted by

smokers who Batman on the roof they're all up there on the rooftop yeah don't let me interrupt as they spark up and start gossiping about people they work with. I also got, wait for it, membership of the Everyman Cinema chain. That's so up your strata. Well, I'm not really a film. I only watch films with aliens in. Yes. But I've started watching- How embarrassing.

I've started watching- That's the most embarrassing statement you've ever made. No, I've started watching like what you'd call proper films, artos. With humans in it. Yeah, I watched the Bob Dylan film. How was it? I've heard it's good. It was excellent.

Chalamet? Are you a fan? Yeah, he was great. How was his voice? Very Dylan-esque, strangely. I also saw Queer, the Daniel Craig thing, because I like William S. Burroughs. Yes, you do. And it's based on his book. There's a lot.

Is he the gonzo? Yeah. No, that's Hunter S. Thompson. Oh no, William S. Burroughs, I know who you mean. William S. Burroughs wrote Naked Launch and the film is quite close to some drastic changes towards the end, probably because he didn't finish it. But there's a lot of Quite graphic gay sex in it. Mm-hmm, which I have to say I didn't mind Wow

I love that for you. Yeah You know, I went to the film for its literary aspects And then came away thinking It's alright late for me now, don't get me wrong. It's too late for me to change lanes. There's Ted Swimmer, probably. Is that what his name is? Ted Swimmer? Teddy Swims. Well, there'll be some tears shed in Old Compton Street tonight, Frank. You'll hear that. His real name is Edward Swimmer.

But who'd have thought? I went in for a literary thing and thought, oh, this is lovely. Do you remember when we went to Balans, Frank, and you were so sweet on, we were there on Pride Day, and you said, I don't think it's right for us to be there. This is your special day. No, but who'd have thought that the gay sex would be that good? It reminded me, because like I said, I went to it. That needs to be the clip, just that, no context. I went to it because I knew the book and it reminded me of when I went on eBay UK to buy

a book about Charlotte Mew, the early, late 19th, early 20th century poet. Okay. And I ended up buying a Wild West Canteen instead. You know those sort of circular things they drink out of on the prairie? I bought one of them instead and this is what happened with this film. Went in for literature, came out with Ooh Baby. Thanks for listening to the podcast. Make sure to like and follow so you never miss an episode.

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