The Frank Skinner Show - How Much Is Frank Worth?

Episode Date: June 12, 2026

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Some people can get a thrill, knitting sweaters and sitting still. It's all right for some people, for some hum, drum people. This is Frank Off the Radio. I'm joined by Emily Dean, and Ruth Hosko is with us today. Much loved.

Well, we'll get to that. Follow the podcast on X and Instagram. You can email the podcast via Frank Off the Radio at Avalon, UK. And on the WhatsApp front, um... It gets up. Oh, 745779.

Yeah. Voice, no trouble line. It's Frank got the radio gold every time. Laugh so strong, they should be a crime. It refers to golden time. That. Is that a sexual thing? No.

Oh, God. It's a thing they have in schools where you have half an air we don't have to do it. read your own book or just... Is it? Oh, for now, that's like Golden Gold. And I tried it for a bit because Buzz said to me, yeah, we've got Golden Time this afternoon, and it sounded just great. Yeah.

Of course, when you're an adult, you're two ripped apart by deadlines and stress, and the golden time was tarnished. Okay. I like the concept of gold. Of course, for some, the whole life is golden time. That is true. Yeah, the unemployed.

Or inherited wealth. Less, less for the... But these people who win the lottery and say, that's it. Now I'm going to just be on the beach. That's like winning death. Anyway... What a horrible, horrible beginning to the show. And you started it with a lovely showbiz, Lysamonelli, camp intro.

Well, that's it, isn't it? Light and shade. That's what people want. So I think that Ruth and I, because we'd only talk before this show in case we accidentally say something funny. And we were at the same place this weekend. We were. We were both in Manchester. Oh, Manchester. So much of all.

Yeah? Not together. No, not together. Let's make that absolutely clear. I was with my wife. My wife. Yeah, I was with my wife in Manchester. But you were there on the Friday?

Yes, I was at the fall futures and past, past and futures. I never got the title. Three days. What is this? An exhibition? No, it's a sort of convention of four fans. Oh, okay. What was great was there was a lot of X fall people, you know, four members there.

Did you meet any four members? I didn't, you know. I met BC Campite who was fron. he was not doing an impersonation and Markey Smith, where he was doing... Is he a tall man in glasses and a black cap?

He's a tall man. That's not going to narrow it down with these people, right? He didn't have glasses, no, why? I saw someone singing who was very good. So were there performance? I don't understand how it worked.

Let me give you a little par exam. Yes. There was like, people would be interviewed, so I saw Grant show was the first thing I saw being interviewed, talking about producing the four. And he just feels, I mean, he's a really nice bloke, but he's sort of think he might have done drugs in the past. Do you know what I mean?

Yeah, I think there are a lot of people though. Yeah, exactly. Yes. But I liked him a lot. And I met, I met Tommy Crooks, who used to be in the four and was famous for, he kicked Mark E Smith, the lead singer Up the Arse, on stage. Frank, can I just say,

why do all these people sound like 70s variety shows? Tommy Crooks, Grant Showbiz. Yeah, but Tommy Coox... That sounds like real people. You say that, but Tommy Crooks now is... Sells natural skincare products. I didn't know that.

Is that the one that was on drugs? Very successfully. No, well, I don't want to cast any aspersions. And did you meet... Funky sigh. No, I saw Funky sigh, but I didn't meet him. Was he as funky as his name suggests? He's very lovely bloke, but I went on his tour.

He does a tour, a two hour tour. There was like 50 middle-aged blokes walking through Manchester Town Centre on the Sunday morning with people looking at us thinking, oh, the poor boggers, their flags haven't turned off. They're just what, like that? It's really what it looked like. Do you know what? I've got to go back.

I think I have met Funky, Sye, but I think I met him at a Nightingale's gig. Oh, okay. So, sorry, Cy. We've met. Has anyone there called Chris Stevens, John Hughes? No. Regular names. Well, Sy did the tour, and he had a lapel, a big lapel mic, which I don't think had any workings on it,

wires or anything. It was decoration. He had a decorative microphone. I couldn't hear anything. any difference in his farm. So he walked around and show us things like Marcus Smith's favorite Chinese restaurant. Oh, that's great.

It was great. That's the kind of tour I want. You're not done it before that tour? No. I'll tell you what was good about it. Do you know the story about a badly drawn boy being mistaken for a minicab driver? No.

Well, I've heard this story. I'm probably told it on the podcast. But just very briefly, Marky Smith comes out of a pub. There's a car sitting outside, so he gets in and gives the bloke's address. It's badly drawn boy who's just arrived. So he said, I'm not a cab driver.

And he said, anyways, press switch. So he drives him there. When he gets there, the story I heard was that he couldn't, he hadn't got any money, so he gave him his Jackie or something like that. I tried to give him his Jackie. And then the end of the story was always,

as I knew it, that a couple of days later, badly drawn boy's got a mate in the back. And he said, badly. He says, do you know, there's a false teeth in the back of the car. So now there was an extra bit I didn't know that he phoned Markey Smith and said, look, I found a pair of false, you don't want to give you a lift home. I found a pair of false teeth in the back of a car. Are they yours?

And he said, yeah, but keep them. Come on, keep them. Lovely gesture. The largesse is like a Tudor king. Oh, I love that. So hang on. So you get there, you go to the conferences. You go for a walk around.

Well, that was Sunday morning. We went for the walk. Does Kath go on the walk around? Yes, of course. I think there were three women only. Okay. Represented. and then is there

does this all build to a peak? Well what did you do on Friday apart from watching the... So on the Friday I saw that was all I saw the two bands so there was VC Campite doing the fall

and then afterwards there was a tribute band to the fall called The Lookback Bores and they were great really good I think that might be funky size band

I don't know anyway he plays I like the look Lookback bores. I know a lot of look back balls. I might be one myself. I think the fall festival was one of them. I must have been playing.

Yeah, isn't that essentially describing the people who were there? Yeah. What about a woman? We went out for a meal and a woman said to me, can I take your photo? That's nice, right. So I had me photo to up with her. She said, is it all right to put it on Instagram? What do you say?

Um, I said, yeah, I think so. She said, don't worry about it. No one will know who you are. Wow Wow Good Good I thank you

Oh No one will know Oh Did she actually say that She did I swear it I have witnesses Because Kath said

Oh don't say that to him No I was with the lovely X in fact Oh she said it in front of celebrities Said it in front of the lovely eggs Oh embarrassing What a disgrace So do you

Does this full thing happen every year, just a one-off thing? I hadn't. I don't know whether it's a new thing, but I'd absolutely go again, I'd go for the full weekend, it was loads of fun. Yes, the fall. The full, fall. The full, fall. I'm not being rude, but I wouldn't go. I hope you don't mind. I hosted, well, it's organised, did I say this when I mentioned it last week? It's organised by Jill Adam, who is the mom of Maisie Adam. Oh, now I like it. So the reason I was doing is, I did a gig with Maisie. And at the end, and she said, by the way, I've got a handwritten letter from my mom.

So that's how I ended up doing it. Oh, yes, you did crowdwork with her, didn't you? That's right. So I did, I hosted Fall Mastermind. That was my thing, which was at one point, Steve Hanley, who played bass for the four, for a, God, years, 16, 17 years, came on and did four tracks on the kazoo. and the panel had to identify them. Oh, what a night.

It was magical. Who was on the panel then? Grand Showbys was on. The woman who's the lead singer with Fall and Women, do you know, familiar? Anyway, I don't need to get too hardcore. And they get Michael McIntyre or someone. Who's booking that gig, Frank?

People. Well, they had to know about the fall. Oh, okay. Simon Armitage, the Poet Laureate, did a DJ set. Now that is a good looking. But a couple of people did DJ sets, and I realised that DJ sets are like, when I lived back in Smedic in the old days,

we would say, why do you come round out of those and we'll listen to some music? And that's basically what a DJ set is. Would you play them on, so was it vinyl then? They're on vinyl, yeah. When they would come round. Oh, yeah.

So they would knock on the door, It was that the purpose of the visit was just to hear the music. Exactly. Really? A mate of mine who never left. He stayed in Birmingham living with his parents. And I was back in Birmingham like 20 years later. I found him up and I said, God, I haven't seen you for 80s.

Let's meet him. He said, well, why don't you just come right now? I'll listen to some music. It was like about 40. So he did that. I love her. But his mom bringing cups of tea. Are you familiar with?

Frank would do a thing called Doc. Or something. Oh yeah. Going for a dos. Is that like listening to the music? Or does it just mean... No, that's just sitting around doing nothing. Not even music.

But the thing is about, we didn't just do it. We'd book it. Do you want to go for a dos? Do you want to go for a dos? So you wouldn't have said to a friend, would you ring a male friend? You didn't have a phone, but God love you. But would you get in touch with them and say, do you want to go meet for a coffee? I'd say, no.

Men didn't do that, did they? We didn't know what coffee was in those. I can't. I can't. I didn't know what coffee was. Well, you didn't, I mean, in the black country, they're still very suspicious to take away coffees. I think coffee generally.

Yeah. And Wi-Fi. They're still on one of day. And wife. And what about when I asked Frank if his parents had dinner parties. Oh, God. He didn't stop laughing for 25 minutes. No, they had dinner, but they had it at 5 o'clock at night.

And I said, wouldn't your mom have a glass of wine? He went wine. No. Well, anyway, I was at Piccadilly Station going home. Yeah. A bloke come up to me and said, I think you've just dropped a pound. Oh.

And I said, I don't think so. He said, yeah, yeah, I'll watch you drop it. Oh. And I said, no, I don't carry any. After you, have it? He said, no, no, he gave it to us. So I had it. And I said, well, I don't think I dropped it.

He said, no, but it's a good way to get to talk to you. Oh. That's like a pick-up artist type thing, you know. Yeah, but it's a completely unnecessary ruse. He could have talked to me. And I also thought, I bet he's got like a series of currency. So his name is Beckham. Oh, you dropped a $20.

Look, you dropped his $20,000. Frank Skinner. You dropped a pound. Oh, it's a lang-lang over there. Better get out of the year. I bet he's got like a league table wallet. Depending on who he sees. If it's Martin Lewis Money Saving expert,

he'll go, oh, you drop this voucher if. Yeah. But for me, he knew a pound would be enough to stop me in my tracks. And if it was me, it would be a dog treat. A dog treat, yeah.

So how did you find? I'm interested, given that the relationship was, let's be honest, built on deception, did that trouble you? How did you find the interaction after that? Well, I was,

I was genial You always are to be fair But I just thought There's absolutely no need to do that To me Just come on and say all right Frank How are you? Okay

Then give me a pound If I've been nice That would have been different I think that would be a great way To treat celebrities Can I give you an autograph Love this, be nice chatting to you What do we say?

Five six quid, you're all right We've got change You might as well That's what they do with comedy Essentially. Essentially what meet and greets are when you pay for them. All that, a Comic-Con and... And that's the guy, is it in 1975? The little boy who's christening you went to or the wedding.

No, I went to his brother's. Oh, yeah. Is it the 1975? I think I went to 1968. His younger brother. He went to the... Oh, that'd be his older brother. He knew the parents.

So he said, which I loved, he said any artist that accepts money for a fan meet and greet should be forced to feel. physically have the cash handed over to them. What say you? Well, I think I've met myself on popular at Comic-Con by just signing things and having my photo take and just walking around. And not, the organiser have always been nice to me, but the people sitting behind the tables,

who the fuck do you think you are? We're doing this for like 10 quid a time. And you're just swaning around doing it for nothing. like I don't need it. They must fucking despise me. Oh, you know, you're looking across of people who are in Doctor Who in 1966, two episodes. They want me to die.

I would struggle to be paid. Would you? But maybe I'll get to a time in my life, you know, post-nuclear. When the banking system has collapsed. Yeah. I might be glad to do it. But it's a cruel business. I once saw,

I think it was five women from octopussy sitting on. I feel a bit uncomfortable. Sitting up. I haven't told the story. There's nothing you've said. And they were sitting with a pile of, you know, out by 12 glasses and a pen. And it was like 10 quid, a picture, I think.

But these women were sitting there and behind them was big posters of them when they were like 22 or something. And I thought, wow, this seems like, it's like the ascent of man. It's so. I was once asked to do the Triffids thing years ago. It wasn't very sophisticated.

They are now. I mean, no, I love that. Well, there's different. Some of them are just like in a room in a hotel. Do they have to sit behind a desk then and sign? It's not, but you don't sign autographs? Do you still sign things? Oh, yes.

Usually, yeah. Okay, they don't have phones. I mean, don't get me wrong. I love being on the other end of it. I've got loads of signed stuff and photos with, you know, Jody Whittaker and stuff. It's great. Frank, you've got photos of Andrew Lloyd Weber,

which you took as a fan, sitting in his theatre watching a show. And you've met him. You've been to his house for dinner, and you were taking photos of him. Yeah, I'm not in them. That's just him from the distance. Did you know that, really?

I didn't know that now. I have sleepless nights about this. It's the most embarrassing thing he's ever done. Except for the time he said to King Charles, don't Google yourself, I beseech you. Yeah. That's not a joke. That's the kind of language.

They like the royal. Good use of beseech. That is not a joke. You actually said that, didn't you? I did say, I beseech you. And what did he say when you said? Sire. I think I've added that.

What did he say? He said, then he moved off. It was all right now. I don't know what to do. It was all right. I don't know what to do now. If there's fly paper, a big fly paper in me.

Palace, he'd be trapped. You're not supposed to laugh at my jokes we were discussing before. Emily's theory is as if women laugh at a man on air, they think they're being sycophant. Well, I was told that, I won't mention who obviously, but I was told that by certain people. At the time

when I started working with Frank, they said, are women to judge more harshly as just being giggling sycophants. Whereas men are seen as, oh, aren't they generous enjoying the human? Well, I've done a couple of gigs this week And someone definitely told the audience that laughing was inappropriate. I don't believe that.

No, it was traumatic. It was far back. Did you do a bad? Really? I said to them. Hang on, I'm just getting my tea. I love hearing that. Hang on.

I'm just gathering around the fireside. I said, towards the end of the gig, I said, so I stand here as ancient Sisyphus who must push an enormous boulder up a steep hill every day. It's good, the relatable material when things are going bad. Well, by then, it didn't... Why was it bad? I'm interested. Just...

This wasn't funny enough, I suppose. But I saw you last... Like, before last week, on the hottest... It was the hottest day. You were at that game? I was, yeah. You had camo shorts on and I thought... Sorry, but I never seen. It was hard.

Because I thought usually, I think I said to you, M. I've never seen even camo shorts, because usually... She did say that, yeah. It was like 34 degrees. It was so hot. But... But you smashed it. It would be very funny.

It went well. That was my A game. If you're not making it easy for the rest of us turning up at these gigs. Well, it's maybe I'm just not funny in long trousers. Oh, okay. Yeah, that's a... It's the title of my next book. Not funny in long trousers.

No, I can't believe that. No, honestly, I'm not kidding. It was really hard work. Have you got to? Another couple this way? No, thank you, fuck. Do you know when it goes badly, though, what's the... I'm going into an isolation, take it for three days.

Oh, Frank, you're so drama queen. When it goes badly, though, is it... Do you say to the audience, are you meant to never refer to the fact that it's going badly? Oh, God, I always, always say to it. So what would you say, oh, this isn't going very well? I remember one going really bad, and I said, you know, when the Titanic went down and they had a band that carried on playing, this is what it would have been like if they'd booked a stand-up comedian that night instead.

And you tried to keep their spirits up as the goldfish was appearing at the fucking port-holes. Can you find when you do that, is it possible? Look, it's terrible. Can I say that? The pain never. Does it never get worked? Really? No.

Even if you're rich and famous? That has nothing to do with it. Did you tell them that you were 69? I think I did tell them that. And did anyone go, wee? I did Well this is the thing So one thing I meant to say was

When I saw you you said I'm 69 And not one person in the room went Wait I did in my head And I thought what's that say about today's society Well on a good night I'll get legend We found your people But no this

It was brutal Both shows this week Were oh god How do you get out of that How do you feel, when you go home? Do I sound like I've got out of it? No. You don't move on.

I get on the tube. The thing is I get on the tube and I get my sheet of paper out with my set on. Do you? And I use one of these pens, multi-coloured, and I do crosses and tiques. Against the material that didn't work. Yeah. So you really stay immersed in the moment of trauma. Well, it's good to, you know, to have it while it's still in your memory where you can still feel the pain.

Wow. And then there was the thing Sarah Milliken once said to Frank. What was the 11 o'clock in the morning rule, Frank? She had a rule, didn't she? She said whether it's been a brilliant gig that leaves you the post gig glow or whether it's been a gig that breaks your heart, you have to switch it off by 11 o'clock the next morning. I love that.

Yeah, but... You're not, Frank. I am not an animal. Frank's doing an elephant man impression. Is that you, Prince Charles? He does this elephant man, which is still currently acceptable. Is it? Oh yeah, I think it's fine, is it?

I don't know. Well, no, I think you're doing an impression of John Hurtt, doing The Elephant Man, which is why it's on. Hunchback and Uttadam joking, just then, halfway through. I thought, is this okay? I know he's a fictional character, but he's a representative. We look to you for guidance. We don't know what we're doing.

We're like mammoth. We don't know. I haven't heard anything saying it's cancelled. What, they've cancelled. They've cancelled doing jokes about the hunchback and Huchadam. I haven't heard anything. That would be tough. Well, text in.

It was that one when, well, one of them was when he's been chased by a bunch of kids and he turns around and says, for the last time, I haven't got you a fucking football. He makes me feel sad. I feel sorry for him and the elephant.

Who the hunchback of Notre Dame? Yeah, and I can't watch the elephant man because it's too sad, makes me want to cry. I can't watch it because it's in black and white. Oh, Frank, it's such a Philistine, honestly. My new live concert thing is on, is in black and white. Is it why?

Is that? Well, my theory, they said to me, I think when people think of you, they think of you in black and white. Safe, yeah. I think they've got me mixed up with the elephant. Hey, y'all, it's Kelly Clarkson with Wayfair. Ever order furniture online and wonder what if? Like, what if it doesn't hold up? That sofa was four days old. You should have ordered from Wayfair. With Wayfair, there's no what if. Just style you love and quality you can trust. Visit Wayfair.com. Wayfair, every style, every home. So we were sitting talking before this show began. And Ruth, out of the blue, said, you know, I'm very well loved.

It wasn't out of the blue, there was context. What was the context? So, Sandy and Emily was saying that. Sandy's our producer. Sandy and Emily were saying, oh, we had some lovely feedback about you being on the pod last week. And you said, oh, really. I don't know Sandy and, I think Emily said it. I said it. I don't think Sandy.

No, Sandy did agree, actually. Can we also explain that Sandy's name is actually Emily, but she was forced against her will to change her name. Well, a surname. A surname, Fitzwis. Two Emilys is. We made her change her name. Yeah.

Anyway, back to me. Can't have that. Anyway, the point is, Ruth is much loved. Was it very well loved? No, very well loved was what she said. Yeah, very well-lived. And I thought, I thought I couldn't say that if someone had a knife to my throat.

I'd be so embarrassed. and too humble. You are not humble, come on. Well, go on, Ruth. I had a lot of positive feedback about being on the pod and about you, Frank, as well. Did you really? I really did, yeah.

You're clever, because you know he'll be all right about it now. I'm glad to hear that. As I explained at the time, when people get positive feedback on the pod, I always think, well, that's them doing that. Well, we've got some news from the air. side world that'll prove my point. Yeah, but he'll still think you wrote it.

Now, oh well, come on, let's see it. It depends on the grammar. So the subject is long-time Husko follower. And it's all spelled correctly, by the way. Okay. Greetings to Frank M. and hopefully Husko. I was listening to today's show. I need to start that again, sorry. Can I start that again?

Sorry. Why? Why? Because I wanted to do the first two bits together because it ends on a different question for you. So there's two bits of praise for me that I'll lead with and then I want to do the question for you. Okay, but I just want to leave this in. Yeah, this is absolutely sure to stay in Husk. Because this is what they like.

You see a little bit behind the scene. They love what I believe is called the BTS content. What does that mean? Behind the scenes. Oh. Get with it, Frank Skinner. Should I say something cancelable? So you've got to take it out.

Well, leave. If you like. We'll leave this in. Then you'll be even more well-law. but by not quite the wrong people. A certain demographic. But your pot holes will disappear overnight. Well, that's happened already in my case.

The HRT help. So over to you, and this is going to take off. Hopefully Husko. That's your new name. Come on then. So the subject is long-time Husko follower. Greetings to Frank M. and hopefully Husko. I'm a long-time follower of Husko on the socials,

and I was delighted to hear she was your guest on the show. I was listening to today's show and Frank started an anecdote about being on a Dublin bus but the conversation went in a different direction as a Dubliner I'd love to hear about his experience on one of our sporadic bus services

Basically look I think the reason it didn't go any further is I thought better off it but basically I was on the upper deck of a Dublin boss and I looked across some waste ground and there was a man receiving

oral help from the... Oral help? Why would you call it that? Oral help? I could see the dentist window is my pipe. Floss, I think her name was.

But it was quite shocking. It was broad daylight. It was like, you know, two o'clock. Excuse me, how much do you charge for oral help? Two o'clock in the afternoon. There's got to be an American actress called Oral Help to put money on it.

Yeah, so, okay. They didn't praise you that much. There was two little bits of praise there. Can they do that horrible tradition of Steak and BJ Day, which makes me feel ill? I think they should rebrand it as Stake and Oral Help Day. So it sounds more like a charity. Oral Help is because there is a destination which that man seeks. and I can verify there's no room on the boss

and so he had to take another route please give generously today oral help needs your support ratling the tin but instead of coins it's just like swishing fluid don't now you see what you've done it's too much

anyway thanks Michael oral help oral help that you absolutely taking it too far. I knew you would do that. Prop comedy, they love this. They love prop comedy, the young ones. Can I just clarify that was a smoothie bottle? Yeah, it was. It was.

That was used for the oral help. Exactly. I'm trying to think of a nice way of putting it. Well, I think you did put it in a nice way. Yeah, exactly. I made it like an act of kindness. Well, it often has been in my case. What? Can we just ask, all cases pretty much, can we ask,

Ruth. Don't ask Ruth that. Oh no. Frank, I know better. Okay. No, actually, I'd like to ask you, Frank. That praise is genuine.

You can sense that's genuine. You have a good read on genuine. Look, I'll be honest with you. My wife loved Ruth on the podcast. Did she? I knew she would. Yes.

I knew she would. I feel really happy about that. Well, you know. Frank, not so much, obviously. But at least Kathy. No, no, I'm really pleased. I was nice to hear her praising somebody. Oh.

Yeah. Love to sound a car. I can honestly say, we did get a lot of praise. I was getting a little bit annoyed. Well, done you, Ruth. It was getting a bit much. I won't lie. Okay, you're going to turn a gimmee now.

So let's just stop it. It was a gindler, it wasn't going to call. No, no, it's good. Can we have, what, is there any other news that isn't about you, I mean, I'm going to struggle to find something. I'll do my best. Would you like to hear about Charles Brandreth, Scott from Braintree, who's one of our regulars?

And he says, hi, Frank, Emily and guest. He says possibly Steve. I do apologise. That's all right. After hearing your discussion regarding what does Charles Brandreth wear in summer? Yeah. That sounds very us. I'm trusting we said.

So I always think of him in a jump at all times. Scott says, I decided to channel my inner Colombo and do some detective work online to find out more about Mr. Brandreth's summer wardrobe of choice. I love that Scott did this. He sat there Googling Charles Brandreth wardrobe summer. The answer is somewhat bizarre, but I'm guessing largely science-based. All I can hope is that he has some industrial strength deodorant. Scott directs me to this he found online.

Believe it or not, Charles Brandreth still wears his trademark novelty woolly jumpers all through the height of summer. Oh, no. Intense UK heat waves. He has famously baffled this morning viewers by showing up in thick knitwear. However, Giles has claimed previously that a heavy sweater acts like a thermos flask

to trap the cold air and keep him cool. Does it mean because he's a heavy sweater? No, it's not true. Do you think it's not true? I'm thinking now. Pizza thingy with Prince Andrews. Pizza Gate, Watford, Pete. Didn't he have a thing about it?

He doesn't sweat. Oh yes, he did say that. Jarls probably wears a summer sweater where it's got a knitted oil and a palm tree on and a big sun. Oh, I bet he does, yeah. And that's what keeps him cool. Oh, do you think so?

Something like a summer one. Bikini. There's a thing called a mosquito stitch, which forms a little mosquito in a different coloured wall. He probably has them scattered around. to suggest. Yeah. The thing is,

Charles Brandreth is never going to go down the sweatshirt road. But he's got one with a t-shirt. You can't imagine him. No, you're wrong, actually, Ruth.

He could wear, well, we always call it, Frank, don't we? Tori MP at a jumble sale. The t-shirt and then the t-shirt over the shirt.

I don't think he'd do that. Oh, no. I think the only t-shirt Charles Brandreth would have been seen dead is one of those that's got on it at a shirt and tie. Yes.

Yeah The Toxedo one Oh yeah I interviewed Cliff Richard And he had one of those On ironically though Did he? Did he?

Good old Cliff I remember Bruce Forsai's son Jhajit His wedding had one of those In a baby grow as well I saw it in Hello magazine And it was the first time I'd seen a baby grow

Black Tie Oh okay Quite nice Very nice Anyway that's Scott from Brady I feel really relieved We've cleared that up with Giles Yeah I don't feel really

relieves about it. It's left me feeling worse, knowing that he's still wearing a dense jumper in the summer months because that, you know, trapped, trapped in his own image. Yeah, he is. Can't get out of his brandreth. That's what they call him brandreth. Yeah. Is that like that drop? Style brand death. That's his, that's his alternative name. Style brand death. because the style of his brand will lead to his death by heat exposure. It's all there. It's all in the letters. I don't think we're going to better that.

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