The Frank Skinner Show - Pierre Bronzed

Episode Date: July 4, 2025

In this episode Frank has had an experience that has made Pierre very jealous and Buzz has done another car-related prank. There's also correspondence about string vests, a harrowing Pete clip and a connected Reader. Whatsapp us on 07457 417 769 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

No Frills delivers. Get groceries delivered to your door from No Frills with PC Express. Shop online and get $15 in PC Optimum Points on your first five orders. Shop now at NoFriills.ca. It's Frank off the radio, featuring him and that posh lady-o And the one with the French name, from South Africa came They're all here, open brackets, hooray This is Frank off the Radio. I'm joined by Emily Dean and Pierre Novelli. Yeah, no guests.

Relax. Follow the podcast on X and Instagram. You can email the podcast via frankofftheradio at avalonuk.com. You can WhatsApp us on... Ooh. Oh, I never. Which one will it be? I'm struggling to find, I can only see one.

You can WhatsApp us on 07457 417 769. That was Frank was trying to find a jingle for your entertainment. Yeah, but I- For your pleasure. I could, I can only see the one I used last week. Okay. Nevertheless, let us move on.

You've got a little bit of a tan, which I'm enjoying. You look a bit more Hollywood script writer. There's a reason I've got a little bit of a tan which I'm enjoying. You look a bit more Hollywood scriptwriter. There's a reason I've got a tan. Because I spent the last two days in the open air. Did you get locked out? No, I bet he was watching cricket. I got knocked out. I was lying on a traffic island. Oh God, not the first time that's happened. No, true.

Were you watching cricket? No, I wasn't watching cricket. I was exhuming a Anglo-Saxon body. I'm listening. I was... Was it Birken hair? It was a bit Birken hair. You know they had to bury Birken hair together? Did they?

Not on... I don't mean together in the same coffee, but on the same day. Yes. Because they tried burying them separately and they kept digging each other up. I made that up. I know you made that up. That's my Birkenhair material used up. Anyway, because buried Edinburgh. Yeah. Yeah, I was invited to go on a, I can't say exactly where because detectorists go in and steal things. Not that I don't like detectorist offices, there's bad sheep in every flock. Wrongans. So I was in Kent which is a big, as Pierre knows, a big Anglo-Saxon thing, because it's quite near, not too far to come if you're coming from Europe.

And yeah, I arrived on the Monday, last Monday. I was given a mattock. I was given a grave, basically, but it was only about two inches deep. I'm really sorry, I don't know what a mattock is. A mattock looks like a pickaxe, except one side of it is like a flat thing. Oh, this sounds lovely. So we had to skim the top. You move from mattock to trowel to little trowel to brush.

So you're working away and then a skull appears. And then it had cross legs. Cross legs? Yeah. What, the body did? Yeah, very laid-back. I love the catness. I find the dead usually are quite hyperactive and you know what I mean, when you get ghosts they're never really, when I say they're not chilled obviously they come with a certain drop in temperature. Do you know I've never imagined a corpse with a cross legs. It's summer I suppose. And a fabulous spearhead. What do you mean? Trying to keep fresh. Sun bathing. But I tell you what, the way that the skull was, it was almost like it was kissing the spearhead.

Right, spearhead was right next to me. And when would these have dated from Frank? These would have been sixth century. Really? That's Hengist and horse time. That's so early. I can't really work out when that even was. What do people dress, what I'd like to know is what sort of clothes did they wear? That will give me an idea. Well they found, for example, they found a purse, the top of a purse that was elephant ivory. Really? That's very cool actually. And they also found a body in an adjoining field and they did DNA on it and it was more than a third West African. It just sounds, you know, but people did move about. Anyway, I don't want to get too deep into the thing. What I would say is...

Well, he didn't stop the body. Look at that, Em. Oh my God, he's got blisters. I've actually got blisters from operating the tools. That's so cool, though. I mean, you say cool, but it's not. I thought I'd turn my back on blisters. But these are nerd blisters, Fred.

They are nerd blisters, that was better. Blistered fingertips from calculator buttons. Bear in mind, you're shifting rocks and stuff out of there, trying not to damage anything. Then you put them in a bucket and then you load a wheelbarrow and push that off to a big... I think that's good for you to do that. It's a reminder of what your ancestors... What my life could have been. Yes, absolutely. Yeah, but this felt, because it was so...

It was a bit hot last Monday and Tuesday, I don't know if you recall. I cannot imagine, yeah. It was a bit Victorian prisoner. Do you know what I mean? Garavant library. Was it hot enough that you could sort of pretend that you were in the Valley of the Kings kind of thing? Do you know what I mean? Get out of that library. Was it hot enough that you could sort of pretend that you were in the Valley of the Kings kind of thing?

Well it was so hot that the people, the regular archaeologists were saying, it's bloody hot isn't it? And I thought, oh god, if you guys had noticed any. Did you wear the classic archaeologists, I hope you wore some sort of khaki flat jacket. I wore, well it's too hot for a jacket, but I wore a big khaki wide-brimmed hat. Otherwise, lest I should die. But I really hate sunblock and stuff, so I don't normally use it. What do you mean you hate sunblock? I never use it. It was 1972.

I always think, just keep an eye on the, just keep an eye on the clock. Are you going to say that you use sort of dripping or something instead? Like some old fashioned remedy. How can you hate sunblock, Frank? I did once go to Eastbourne and a mate of mine said, I tell you what's great for a sun tan, olive oil. So I was burning, so I was slapping on more and more olive oil. Of course you were burning, it was 30 degrees and you didn't have any sunblock on. Yeah, so I ended up in Ionitia, I was so badly burned. Yeah, and then they had to take all the rosemary and thyme and big lemon out your bum and all the other things you'd done to yourself. Oh God, Pierre's mentioned my bum. How awful for the poor listeners. But it was...

What about me? Look, it was brilliant but it was hard work. Hang on, can we just go back? Did you ever... Did ending up in A&E as a result of eschewing sunblock, has that changed your opinion at all? No. Because I went to Grenada, the Caribbean island and the way I used to do it, when I used the sunbathe, what? No, you're right. Were you checking? No, I think it was a rare occurrence where you minutes on my back, 20 minutes on my front, 20 minutes on each side, but no sun tan lotion at all.

Because 20 minutes was just where I could get to without scorching. And you became deep bronze as a result. Oh man, I'd come back and look in, well there's no analogies one can use nowadays, but very, very tanned. Yes. I once showed up to school. Pilt down man, there you go, we've got that. I once came back to school incredibly tanned, back when my skin still remembered how to tan. And a teacher accused me of being brown as a nut. I think that was a common thing.

Once again, I think we spared anything problematic there. Yeah, I think so. I was just picturing Pierre Bronzed. You'd want him to come back in a gladiator outfit if he had a good tan. He'd look like, yeah, I don't think we're ready for Pierre Bronzed. No. I don't know if we can handle it. Do you think me and you, Pierre, could do David and Goliath as Edinburgh plaques?

Yeah. There's the sequel to our long anticipated Frankenstein. Exactly. We'll start with Frankenstein and then David. We just do, and then we'll do off my submit, we'll just do small men and big men themed things. And the next week we'll play one of those Russian dolls. And you come on and talk and in the end I just

climb out of you. We can arrange it so that I sort of flip open. Oh God, that'd be worth seeing. I have a question about the skull. Go on. Did it have teeth? I didn't get down to the teeth because I was working on my own. I was the only one working on my own.

Everyone else had a part. Oh, I thought you meant your own teeth. I was the only one working on my own and everyone else had a partner. Oh, I thought you meant your own teeth. I didn't get a partner till the final afternoon, so I was low to touch the spot. Why didn't you get a partner? That's awful. Well, they were all busy and I turned up as some, you know, bumbling amateur. They were all very nice, weren't they? Maybe they just thought, well, Frank's been on TV for decades, he knows how to do this. He doesn't need any supervising.

I'm very relieved I thought they chose partners. He's closer to the grave than any of us. He doesn't need our advice. It was brilliant. I'm very envious of this. I, well in the end like I say, the legs were exposed. No offence, I'm not envious. There was a belt buckle. I mean I was Fashion I was on I'll put some photos on our social media You spend a lot of time literally lying on your belly in the dirt with a tiny tiny trowel Cleaning out underneath the fibula and stuff like that Sounds like my surgeon Underneath the fibula we'll dream our dreams away.

Nobody joined in. Can I ask what the belt buckle looked like? Well it was very... It wasn't like Elvis. No obviously it wasn't like the fabulous gold one from Sultan Hu. It was all like rost. And again we hadn't gone that deep. I only did two days and I started more or less from scratch.

Did you get paid? Oh God no, you get paid in experience. Wow. Good night. Remember that kids when you get offered a job. Yeah exactly. Next time someone asks you to dig a grave. I did a Radio 6 show.

I can see you as a grave digger. You know I did a Radio 6 show once and I was talking to the people like backstage and the presenter was the only person getting paid on the whole show. Really? Yeah. And yet we held the BBC in such affection. Yes? It's like a Victorian workhouse. Where did you stay Frank?

Well. Oh. It's like a Victorian workhouse. Where did you stay, Frank? Well, now you ask me. I got to this place, I thought it was a hotel, but when I got there, I couldn't find the way in. So I was walking around and then this bloke appeared and said, there isn't a front door. Oh, you idiot. You naive fool. I should have seen that. There isn't a front door. Oh, you idiot. You knife-hole. I should have said that. The entrance is in your mind.

It's mine. Security measure. There's no front door. We had someone here last week trying to find the front door. We had that Frank Skinner here. Man, he's living in the past. Looking for a front door. The buildings aren't for getting in.

Anyway, it was like, it was sort of like a motel, you know, that set up where the rooms all form a sort of semi-quad. A sort of psycho thing. Yeah, but it was more English. I'll tell you what I particularly liked about it, my room, I was in number 22 and it had a farmhouse door. Oh. So, you know what I mean by that? Yeah, with the top and bottom separate.

So when the man brought my breakfast on a tray in the morning, I would just open the top half. Little did he know. And then you could keep your door all dark. That sound, that sound you could hear of some flesh against wood. Frank. Well, it's irresistible with a farmhouse door. He was feeding you like a horse.

Yeah, basically. You're sort of leaning out and he's... Well, again, I was back to the prisoner thing, sort of passing it in through a hat. It is a bit strange ways, isn't it? I'll tell you what was terrible though, is that... It's not sounding great up until now. What I realised, no the dig was great, and it was nice to be in, but I realised that everyone was taking a pat lunch, and my route into the dig, was I passed nowhere that was so what I

did not pass something through the stable door well I said to him you know some grains I said he said we don't do an evening meal I said okay he said there's some takeaway menus so I found this fish and chips shop on the first night kept phoning it he said such number. I looked it up and it closed two years earlier. I don't know why but this is really, I'm finding this so sweet. Kentish hospitality. No front door, no food. Only the ghostly shell of the shop. And also, I hope the man said, his kitchen shop.

Kentish hospitality. I'll kill that typist. Anyway, so what I was doing, this was my Pat lunch both days, I would take in jam on toast and croissants with jam on, I'd take them in. And I hadn't got anything to put them in to stop them leaking out, the jam leaking. Where did you get it? So I found, I had a poo bag in my bag pocket. Are you joking?

I am not joking. It's alright when the toast is in, but if you eat the toast first, the feel of two small croissants in a poo bag is, Especially when they've warmed up in the sunshine. Are you sure Cathy had to use it? It's the way they're tapered at the end. That's what really... The other archaeologist, no wonder he didn't get a partner, is saying he's eating a bag of shit for lunch. Exactly. He's a lunatic. He keeps ringing a chip shop that shut down two years ago.

He's lost his mind. He got so angry that the chip shop was shut down he thought, right, well then I shall live on shit. What happened in this area? This puts that documentary poop cruise into a whole new light. Hank, what do you think people thought when you brought out a poo bag? Well I explained. At the dig. I explained there's no way for me to get a sandwich so I had to bring the stew.

It's quite extreme, Ben. So I'd been working for like three hours, I'm covered in dust and blisters and then I sat down and had cold jam on toast. Out of a poo bag. Out of a poo bag. And also my suntan lotion was in a poo bag as well. One loose? No. Just scooping it out. But I put it in my pocket and somebody said

there's a bin of it. I said no, I'm, they'll be pooing this tomorrow. Don't worry about that. Well you've hung on to the poo bag. Oh God yeah. Yeah. Were you tempted? When the dog looks back in and sees strawberry jam in the poo it's gonna be worried to death. Oh what about the sun cream though? Anyway it was it was great. Were you ever hungry enough to perhaps gnaw on a bone as you uncovered the dish? No I have to say I still haven't quite come to terms with the fact that we were digging up human people. No, it's extraordinary. I still haven't quite come to terms with the fact that you ate your lunch out of a poo bag. Well, I'd say that's the most remarkable event we were digging up.

I uncovered that skull and I thought that there hasn't been sunshine on this person for 1400 years. You know the feeling? Yeah, exactly. Yeah. 1400 years. Thank God for olive oil. I've got to say Frank. As Popeye was saying to me just the other day.

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I'll tell you what I did have though, because I thought I'm going to need plenty of water. So I took my Wild West Canteen, you know, they were quite impressed with that. I couldn't tell. Said Gould got plastic bottles or metal bottles. And then I'm, you know, ah man, it's just another cattle drive for me. Glug, glug, glug. Oh man, it's great. That's the most Indiana Jones. They should have Indiana Jones style kit, the archaeologists. Yeah. Shouldn't be allowed plastic bottles.

I'll tell you something. They have, well I have a Stanley now. I'll tell you something that really made me laugh. Now, if people who listen to this regular, yes you mate, and will know that when Kath went and did her epic bike ride, when she came back and we put up a welcome home sign and Buzz put the logo of the bike ride in the middle. Yes. I should say by the way that several of our readers have sponsored Kath on the thing.

Oh how lovely. So thank you for that. Brilliant. But then if you remember when Boz got back from school camp, this was his endurance test after Cat's Bike Ride, she put the dog, the dog's head on the Ghostbusters logo, which worked brilliantly. So I got in last night and Boz had obviously thought, hold on, I just did it straight and she did comedy, I'm doing comedy now. So I'll say this was, so welcome home was still there, but because I'd been on an archaeology, I am going to put this online, I swear, because I'd been on an archaeology dig, that was the picture in the middle. Because I've been on an archaeology dig, that was the picture in the middle. Wait, do you want to explain what that is? I don't know where he's got the archaeologist from.

It's someone sort of dusting off some dinosaur bones in a rock, and Poppy's head has been placed sort of at a kind of a, quite a sort of a cheeky angle. Look into camera then. Look into camera that like. Look into camera that and then an Indiana Jones hat on top of the dog head. What I'm enjoying about this is how high the bar is now that every time anyone does anything. That one will take some beating. One of his pranks as well was I got in the car to drive there. It's about two and a half hours from my place. And as you know, the car on my ways is Ecto One. You know, I've talked to this before, the Ghostbusters one. And Dan Ackroyd is giving me directions talking about Ectoplasm on the left. As I said, I have Christine Ragulera.

So he switched it. I put the first voice to come on. It was Paddington. Oh. Padwishal. Paddington Bear. Is that who it is? Saying stuff like, you know, driving is very like spreading marmalade. And putting it in a poo bag. Soft and steady. If there's anything that would give me road rage more in a difficult traffic situation, it

would be that bloody bear preaching at me. Oh, well I was on my own. I love Paddington. The police are on my tail and I've just slammed into a bus stop. The naked man under a coat. You should probably hand yourself in. The judge looks kindly on it. He said in half a mile turn left.

Have you been drinking? in. The judge looks kindly on him. He said, in half a mile turn left. And then he said, have you been drinking? But he said, remember your manners, don't forget to signal. Oh, Paddington is so naive. That's Paddington's trouble. He's too trusting, Frank. But what are you judgmental at the same time. You know when he gives the look? I noticed the car was outside of a pub for quite a while. Taxis are widely available and then it turned off. I decided to call the police just in case. What's in that poo bag? I hope it's not well. So him a poo bag is probably what Winnie the Pooh slept in when they went camping together. Well let's just say you might want to leave it a while before you go in the woods if Paddington

has been around. What is it about animated bears and their complete inability to wear trousers? They don't like that. Well the real ones don't wear trousers. Yeah but they also don't wear duffle coats and red hats. Yeah Paddington's going around like a flasher. Bifo the bear. And lecture you on manners. He wore shorts with like you know dongery straps that came up. Do you know it's a bit Frankie goes to Hollywood Bifo's look. There was someone quite pride about Bifo the bear. Yes, exactly, Berlin Parade about Before the Bear.

It was a bit welcome. Frank, would you like to hear at some point? Can I say one thing before you do this? You know that we have people on here plugging stuff, and a few weeks we had Tim Key yes few weeks back yes plugging the Ballad of Wally Silo yes and I went to the premier and stuff premier and very French and it was brilliant yeah and it was so brilliant I didn't think there was any need to tell anyone so I thought it was yes but I I felt bad, I realised the other day I thought, God I never said how much I enjoyed that. So if you haven't seen

Tim Key, Tom Baston etc in the Ballad of Wallace Island. It's fantastic. I really really and I don't often super recommend anything that doesn't have an alien in but that one was fantastic. Sorry carry on. That's alright, we have some outside world. Good. I thought we should get to... You know I miss them. I know you do. Well we've had all sorts of readers getting in touch. Firstly we've heard from Tamara Harrington. She says... Oh Tamara and Tamara and Tamara... Lovely. Creeps in this petty pace day after day to the last syllable of recorded time and all our yesterdays like the way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candlelifes.

Sorry, carry on. Okay, I wonder if she gets that every time she goes to the car. I bet she does. I've been listening to Frank's show since 2009 and I can't help but be struck by the many times Frank has mentioned Ruth Ellis. You may live near the pub Frank but you can also say that your number one fan, this is Tamara, is Ruth's great niece. Oh wow. My grandma was Muriel Jacubate, who's Ruth's sister, of course, but I'm sure you know that. Praise redacted Tamara Harrington, which is so lovely, but one thing does occur to me, Frank, which is a little awkward.

We have another long running fan of this show. Oh no. The niece of Albert Pierpoint. The great niece of Albert Pierpoint who I'm afraid was her executioner. Yeah maybe we can get these two together. I don't think that's a good idea. And bury that. No don't bury that. Well you've got enough experience in that now. Oh dear. What are we gonna do? Well I think what I think the contrary learnt. I think you're right. But how lovely that she's got in touch. That is really nice. Isn't that nice? She's enjoying the mentions. Yeah. And we've also, we've had a, someone has got gotten touched. It's actually Ruth Jordan. You were talking about string vests

Yes, Hercules specifically. Re-Hercules in his white string vest. My dad told me about a wedding he went to once where the father of the groom wore the usual smart suit to the church and then literally changed into a white string vest for the reception That's me. It's so funny. Could we get Emily's take on this interpretation of dressing for dinner? Praise redacted, Ruth Jordan. I mean, I kind of love it.

I love that commitment to the white string vest. In this weather, I empathize with it a great deal. Because there are some cultures where people pin money to the bride's dress. Yes, absolutely. You could roll up a note and wedge it in the gap. Pop in little cigarettes and things. There used to be a gap, when I was a child there was a game you used to get in shops and you had to pay like 2p and you'd press, there was all these bits of rolled paper in holes and you'd push them out and you either got a winner or a loser. It was like an early version of

the scratch card with a raw plug element to it. What I want to know is he changed into the string vest but I'm really hoping he kept the suit on Frankenstein monster. Oh yeah, Yeah. Yeah. Because that would have been special. I think my opinion on the string vest revolves around precisely how hairy this man was. I think it's more unsettling if he was incredibly hairy. I think we all know though there were at least four physical fights at that wedding. No, but there's a hairy man string vest image.

When you said that. There is in your head. I immediately thought of, I don't know if you've ever seen when, in a derelict house when trellis collapses and it falls and the grass grows through it. That's what it would be like. Who do you think of when you think of a string vest? Probably either my dad at the sink washing his armpits, standing sumo style so his trousers

didn't fall down when he lowered his braces, or I suppose Rab C is the big one. I'll tell you who I think of, do you remember the character Onslow in Keeping Up Appearances played by the late Jeffrey Hughes who was Eddie Yates? Oh god yeah I've sat in Eddie Yates' caravan at a festival. Have you? How was it? He told me off actually. What did he say? Well he... Do you know who Eddie Yates is by the Frank can you quickly explain? Eddie Yates was a fabulous character in Coronation Street very funny I remember the Ogdens were a classic. You know there's always the funny yeah that was his role. There was a classic working class family called the Ogdens, Mr and Mrs Stan and Hilda and he walks into their house and they've got like chips still in you know in

the paper and that on the table eating chips and he went, oh sorry, sorry, I thought you'd be on the after dinner mince by now. I always remember that. So what happened in the caravan? He told you off? Yeah, because I was talking to this woman who's a folk singer and he said, have you come in here to talk to me or to talk to her?

And I thought, I didn't think in a caravan you couldn't speak to anyone who wasn't the owner. Some sort of tradition. Yeah. Do you know what I'm thinking? A bit of a get. Lovely. No. He was actually, apart from that he was very nice, I must say.

We've heard regarding our favourite. You know there was string, everyone's forgotten string pants. You could also get string pants. No. Yeah, so there was a complete... To what end? There was a complete... I don't want to know about ends.

Yeah. If you wanted to ship chips. No. Which would have been a nice change up my time at Keds. Oh my god. No. The front panel. You know why fronts work? There's like a front panel.

That was solid, but the rest of it was string. So was the bottom, was the buttocks area string? I think most of it was, yeah. I remember, because I had a flashback. I had cause to wear fishnet tights for a sketch. And when you walk barefoot, not barefoot, but when you walk without shoes on in fishnet tights, it's actually quite uncomfortable. It is very uncomfortable.

And it reminded me of the old string pants. Yeah. Sitting down on the bus in your string pants. Very uncomfortable. Yeah. For everyone involved. We've heard about Pete, our favorite Disney character. Oh yeah. Philip says, Dear Frank and the Scooby Gang, Pete's most famous role for me was the ghost of Christmas yet to come. In this harrowing scene we discover Tiny Tim is dead being mourned at the grave by Mickey Mouse. Right. All along, Peter's blowing smoke rings from his cigar and laughing in his booming voice.

Oh God. That's not him. I don't think Dickens goes that dark. No. He is so dark. Yeah. Dickens just is the Reaper just sort of stands there silently. He doesn't go, ho, ho, ho. No, exactly. Blowing smoke rings. Pete gets so few opportunities to laugh at the death of another character because he's Disney.

That's true. That he's filling his boots. I have to say it really undermines the scene to have Tiny Tim being mourned by Mickey Mouse. Well. I wouldn't want him as a professional mourner. He's a little jovial for the role. He doesn't quite have the gravitas. No, but that's why it really moves.

You're seeing him. Finally crack. Mickey Mouse, I've got to be honest, is my least favourite Disney character. I appreciate that somewhat controversial. It's like saying I'm not a Kermit fan. I like the duck. I like Donald Duck best. You're about to say I like the duck.

Yeah, but I... Why are you some studio executive watching it for the first time? I like the duck. We need more of the duck. Yeah, but I... Why are you some studio executive watching it for the first time? I like the duck. We need more of the duck in this. Yeah, I think the duck's got more edge and more family. What, are you referring to Donald as he's more commonly known?

Whereas Mickey. The duck. Mickey has got all those commitment issues. Do you know what? I just find Mickey a bit needy. He's a bit love me. He's a bit people-pleasy. And I like my Disney characters to have a little bit of, some boundaries and dignity.

I feel like he's quite a sort of hands-off CEO. It's not really anything to do with the day-to-day, you know. It's hard to imagine he started in the merchant navy, if I remember rightly, Was that his first film? So you know what? Wear some Alesia wear. Take the Bolero jacket off. And those trousers.

Yeah, and also you've got a pet dog and you're a mouse. And it's smaller than you. We have some scaling questions here. Anyway, let's talk. Michael. Okay. Oh, I need to, did you see any of Glastonbury by the way, Frank? I did. What did you think? Well, I don't like Glastonbury as you know. Yes. There's hardly room for the polo match, there's so

many people there. What about the Old Thesp's coming out though? Did you see Ian McKellen? Oh yeah, of course. Well that's very... Did you like that? That's what you'd expect. Well look, you know, I like Ian McKellen. Do you know what I liked? He did our favourite thing. You know what we love is when the old thesp, they do a thing to show they're moved. They put both hands up against their chin in the prayer position. We both... I don't know if you were there once, I saw Derek Jacobi do it once at a film quiz when he won a flight and he went up on stage and went, oh goodness.

He won a flight? Yeah, it was in a film quiz and he won a business class flight. Derek Jacobi claimed his prize. We did think it was a bit weird that he went up. I don't know if David was there but his partner-in-law went and it was a film quiz and they read out the raffle tickets, it was a charity and they said, and the winner of the business class flight to New York is Derek Jacobi. And he came up on stage and put his hands together in the sort of prayer position and went, oh goodness, like he'd won an Olivia Award.

And then said, thank you for this, thank you, I'm so grateful. What, for what? For'm so grateful. What for? For the flight. On his own. One way, don't come back. Someone said to me he'll be upgrading that at first. Yeah, I wouldn't have. I don't think I'd have had the nerve to claim it, but good on him for going up. Anyway, the point is that's what he was doing.

Isn't it a namaste? Isn't that what they're doing? Yes, you're right, It's a Namaste. That's what Ian McKellen did when the crowd started singing. Oh, Sir Ian McKellen. He was moved. See, that into the Eastons. If I got up there and crossed myself, there'd be a riot. The BBC would be in trouble that I was using religious imagery. Get him! Back to your grave digging.

Yes, exactly. Back to your skeletons and poo bags. That's his next memoir. Skeletons and poo bags. Skeletons and poo bags always let me down. There's some good indie music on show, sort of niche artists at Glastonbury, which I was pleased to see. DuBloond.

But that's worse because the price you have to pay, apart from the actual price. David Bowie and Don Grease. You have to sit through like pop stars and stuff to get to the stuff you want. Just like the pop people have to sit through the indie stuff. Yeah, but Peter Capaldi, you Capaldi, you had an outing. He did, yeah. People got in touch making humorous observations about your resemblance to each other. Yes.

Do you think you look like him? Perhaps I should go on a download as Peter Capaldi. No one would know from that distance, would they? Yeah, true. True. What, don't they just think two old people, they must look alike? It's like Baby Yoda. I mean, it's just, yeah, the same species, grey hair.

Grey hair, tall of head. Yeah, tall of head, definitely. Immensely talented. He certainly is. Okay, I can't follow that. It's the Frank Skinner podcast. A new winter change is blowing. It's the Frank Skinner podcast.

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