The Frank Skinner Show - Spotted: Frank Skinner!

Episode Date: September 25, 2026

Frank and Em are in the studio with Ruth Husko. Frank might have been spotted with his nail clippers, Ruth’s got views on karaoke, and Em just wants to meet a man with a nice address. If you want t...o message the show, email us at FrankOffTheRadio@AvalonUK.com or WhatsApp us on 07457 417 769. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:52 While others follow the noise, we follow the money. Learn more at Bloomberg.com. It's Frank Off the Radio. It's the Frankskinner podcast, don't you know? We'll build a bonfire of our troubles, and we'll watch them blaze away. This is Frank Off the Radio. I'm joined by Emily Dean and Ruth Hosco.
Starting point is 00:01:24 Follow the podcast on X and Instagram. You can email the podcast via Frank Off the Radio at Avalonuk.com. What's up? What's up, WhatsApp? Oh, 27. Oh, 27, 27, 4, 5, 7, 4, 5, 7. Oh, that's good. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:01:51 Oh, that's good. What was that lovely bonfire song you sung at the beginning? It's a, it's a, it's a, Joseph Locke, who my dad liked us. He liked sort of populist tenors. Oh, did he? Yeah, like. What do you say? they had great pipes or something?
Starting point is 00:02:13 I don't think he'd have ever used that phrase. Oh, okay. But he liked, there was a book called Richard Torber. He had about eight albums, my dad, and a couple by Joseph Locke, who sang that one. But Richard Torber was a German tenor. And I think the only album I've ever had in my home where the bloke on the front square in a monocle.
Starting point is 00:02:37 Not ironically. Yeah, on ironically. Fantastic. So you had a record player? Yeah. Well, I played lots of records and my brothers did. But my dad just had a, I think he might have had a Jim Reeves box set. Just the eight he had.
Starting point is 00:02:56 Jim Reeves was, in case you don't know, was a bit of a country legend. Okay. Very syrupy, one of those voices, you know, like the Karen Carpenter. Very syrupy voice. Okay. We used to have that one Do you remember this, Frank? And I know because I was there.
Starting point is 00:03:15 Oh yeah. That was Max Boyce. Oh, we had some of his. Comedian, yeah. Yeah. I know because I was there. Yeah, I remember that haunted me. I think Princess Tiana's brothers
Starting point is 00:03:29 just covered it. Oh, God. It comes free. You only get them CDs is free in the book. Do you remember the free CDs, Frank? Yeah. You used to get them on the front of Mojo, didn't you, Freebies? You still get them on the comp, but we can't talk about Mojo because it's Bauer.
Starting point is 00:03:51 Oh, wow. Oh, I see. But didn't you used to get on the phone? I thought there was some special reason. It was like, no, just general bitterness. Fair enough. I'm not at that. Mojo's a magazine I used to love, but I've come to see that it was shit.
Starting point is 00:04:03 Yeah. Since we got sacks. In hindsight, yeah. I understand completely. Yeah. Absolutely get that. But didn't they used to have albums on the front of the Daily Express and things like that? What album?
Starting point is 00:04:13 He used to get free. Excuse me. I just put my hand up. What album, I appreciate I sound like the presenter of catchphrase. What album would be on the front of the Daily Express? Frank Skinner or Ruth Hosko can answer that question. What would you say would be peak? I'm going to give you time to think about this.
Starting point is 00:04:31 You don't have to give me an instant off. No, I've already got golden classics. I need to be. You know, a bit of Mozart. Yeah, yeah. All those classics, you think, I'll tell you what they like. You know when you hear them and think, oh, fuck off. Yeah, they only like classics that have been used.
Starting point is 00:04:52 That's what I should have called the album. Yeah, they only like classics that have been used in a TV ad. Like everyone's a fruit and not cake. Exactly. Yeah, exactly. Which I do apologise. We wouldn't say that now. And it was inappropriate.
Starting point is 00:05:05 You don't have to apologise for Cadbury's. they can do their own apolloise or Michael Bogle Hegarty or whoever it was I think you could say Everyone's a fruit and not cays Why can you still vote It's food and not cake Frank? It's not
Starting point is 00:05:21 No in the ad it was they changed it To everyone's a fruit and nut cake Well it's cakes isn't it How is it? I thought they changed it to cake Okay Hell no I like it though It's nice
Starting point is 00:05:33 I love a fruit and nut cake And it was yeah it was cabberies anyway But I know exactly what I mean I think you're right It's like a pop go classics. But you can vote for the monster raving Looney Party. So, you know, the actual, the word allowances around mental health are a bit wobbly. A bit woolly, aren't they?
Starting point is 00:05:53 Yeah. You know, we're moving in the right direction. We are the Monster Raving Looney Party art. That doesn't surprise me when it comes to progress. Yeah. We can't count Bimface now as well. Oh, terrible. All those people who stand in weird costumes.
Starting point is 00:06:13 Do you not like it? I hate it. It shouldn't be allowed that. Why do you hate it? Because it was funny 40 years ago when like screaming Lord Soch was doing it. But now you think, oh mate, get back to the boss stop. Yeah, the protest candidate can be somewhat tiresome. If it's someone who's got an actual political conviction,
Starting point is 00:06:40 But someone who's just dressed up there to be comical when they, you know, when they cut to the drabiest building you've ever seen for the announcements. I love it. Like all the way in. Let's just get politicians doing that. Speaking of politicians, that sort of thing on the news. You know, when Ed Miliband apparently ruined his entire career by eating a bacon sandwich.
Starting point is 00:07:05 Yes. You know of those things? Yes. So they interviewed some bloke. and he was like a senior Tory bloke. I don't know who he was. I only really know, KME now from the modern lot.
Starting point is 00:07:18 Yes. But he did this thing where he picked up his glass to have a drink of water and the coaster was stuck to the bottom. Oh, that's mortified. And I thought, I'm not voting for it. You get in the ick there.
Starting point is 00:07:34 No. No, no, why he's finished. His career is finished. He might as well go and be one of those consultants in some financial firm thing that politicians do when they're finished. He'll go on the speaking circuit. And the stress of thinking, oh, is he going to fall off before he's finished his drink? How did he deal with it? Did he remove the coaster?
Starting point is 00:07:52 I don't think he noticed. Oh, that's worse. He didn't even notice. So wrapped up in himself. He couldn't see the, these people that can't see the coaster at the end of their own glass. The trees. That would totally put me off him. In fact, you're right.
Starting point is 00:08:08 When you talk about the ick, Ruth, if someone. did that on a date, for example. That would be an instant deal rating. I don't like trust this bloat with foreign affairs. Can't put no coaster. You can't put one index finger on the coaster before raising the glass. He can't even do that. I don't know if I'd think about it there.
Starting point is 00:08:27 Would you always put an index finger? But when it comes up there, you'd see it, wouldn't you? I'd take it off. I'd have made a joke about it. I think he was trying to style it out. I think he saw it and hoped that everyone would think, Maybe it's just a cup coaster attachment vessel. No, well, what's the chances of that?
Starting point is 00:08:46 We know what happened. Don't try and pull the wall over it. Fake news. Oh, dear. What would Trump do if that happened? Well, then that fake news media reported it. He'd probably have the coaster manufacturers executed by ice. Yes, he would.
Starting point is 00:09:03 Absolutely would. Terrible people. Terrible people. Yeah, very sticky coasts. They'd say, yeah, the coasters have come from Mexico. Coast is very clingy. I don't like clingy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:18 We were talking about nails earlier. The producer actually apologised for referring to her nails, thinking that I'd be affronted. Yeah, she did. Because it was too girly. I corrected her, didn't I? Look, I love her nails anecdote as much as the next person. We're talking about an osparati last week, so, you know.
Starting point is 00:09:39 He had a great gel manicure. Actually, I've got a nails anecdote. Okay. I mean, it's a minor anecdote. Oh, it'll be nine inch. Well, let's hear it. I, um, when I was in Edinburgh, I was walking to the gig, and I'd bought, I was one of these, I'd gone away. You know when you go away without your nail clippers?
Starting point is 00:09:58 And you think, I'm here for a month. I have to buy, I haste getting... I thought pretty soon as I wanted to use the lift. I'll be able to go up the side of the building if I'll let them grow any longer. You'll be like one of those. Guinness Book of Records, people. Do you remember those? That's all that's in.
Starting point is 00:10:16 The Guinness Book of Records. People are really long hair and really long nails. The nail clippers. And then a picture of a plane, you know, if I know, it's a picture of a fucking plane. It's supposed to be like real unusual freaks of nature. I bought it pretty much exclusively
Starting point is 00:10:31 for nail woman or man. Not the Guinness Book of Records anymore. No, you're right. What is it called that? We don't know. Oh, it's called something. Do you use the nail clippers for? I think it's a Viva.
Starting point is 00:10:43 Do you use the nail clippers for pedicure and money? What's the difference? Feet and hands. Pedicure's feet. No, I do them for both, yeah. Okay. But, so I'd bought them, and then I was on the way to, I bought them on the way to the gig,
Starting point is 00:10:57 and I was going across this place called the Meadows, which is like part land. And I thought, oh, I'll cut my fingernails here on the bench. I've got a bit of time. How? Now, when I'm caught no. at home, I have to gather, you know, they fly off and you have to go searching for them and gather them. I don't know why I hadn't thought of this before, but cutting them in a park,
Starting point is 00:11:22 he's just, I've never felt more biodegradable in my life. I just let them fly. What are they going to just become the earth? Fly my pretty's. It was beautiful. I just didn't even have to think about it. Did anyone spot you, darling? Only that child I blinded it. Only that child I blinded in one eye. I'm glad they don't do heat spotted anymore. Spotted. Frank Skinner, comedian, clipping his nails.
Starting point is 00:11:50 Yeah, that's Pop Bitch Gold. Yeah, it really is. Now they're going to grow into some fabulous nail trees. Speaking of that, Pop Bitch, you're still called Pop Bitch. Is it still going Pop Bitch? Oh, yeah. I'm subscribed. Oh, dear.
Starting point is 00:12:04 Does it still do a very, it always felt quite analog. Yeah, it's like a, just get like a very, sort of plain HTML emails into inbox with all the gloss. It's so good. I like it. I was in there for not being able to get my pop-up tent back into its
Starting point is 00:12:20 sheath. Was that recent? It's been what two years ago? I remember reading that. I thought don't say anything bad about Frank. Of course, this was before I work with him. Do people get paid to give stories to pop bitch then, do you think? Do people get money for that?
Starting point is 00:12:36 No. Asking for a friend. You've sent stuff in, have you? No, no. I bet you are. Of course not. Why else would you subscribe to if you were looking to see if your stuff was in there? No, I would never do that. I'm always looking at, you know.
Starting point is 00:12:49 Come on, news hotlines. Pop bitch. Oh, man. Anyway, what you've been up to, Hosco? Well, after the show last week, I did something that I haven't done in a while that's one of my favorite things to do. Oh, go on. Karaoke.
Starting point is 00:13:06 Oh, are you a karaoke fan? I didn't know that, Frank. Big time. What's your first choice? Well, I put money's too tight to mention on by Simply Red and people did not like that. But my favourite one to do is sabotage by the Beastie Boys. Oh, I like that one.
Starting point is 00:13:22 They're unusual. You're from the alternative side of the karaoke world. Well, I'll do anything. I could see you very drunk singing I will survive. Oh, I wouldn't do that because it's a bit cliche. It is now, yeah. Oh, is it? Yeah, maybe it is.
Starting point is 00:13:39 Yeah, what else do you do? We did meatloaf. It's my friend's birthday. Celine Dion, it's all coming back to me now. That did really well. I love a Celine Dion. What's your choices? I imagine neither of you like karaoke, by the way.
Starting point is 00:13:52 You might want to come out. I don't know. I do like karaoke. I do like it. I do like it. I do like it. I do like Ring of Fire. I was used in my first choice.
Starting point is 00:14:00 Do you often get pressure to do three lines or are you absolutely clear that that's? No, I wouldn't. I wouldn't do that. Well, I did it. You did do it recently, darling. Yeah, but you know, you've got to sing for your supper a bit. But no, I wouldn't bore people with that. But Johnny Cash is, that's very satisfying.
Starting point is 00:14:19 There's an Elvis song called One Night as well that I used to go. I don't know that one, even though I know Elvis. Oh, yeah, I think kind of. I do too. We're covering it all the bases here because I do Never Ever All Saints. Great. And reach S Club. There's one note I can't reach in it, though.
Starting point is 00:14:36 I run it pretty enough. So I have to distract. people. It's too high, Frank. Yeah, way too. It turned out Joe O'Meera had extraordinary range. I told you didn't know. When I was in Hawaii,
Starting point is 00:14:52 and we were doing a documentary and the producer's marriage had disintegrated just before we flew out. And he got up to the karaoke. It surprised me because he was melancholy. and he sat on the speaker and sang yesterday. And oh my God, it was absolutely, the blood was coming out, the speakers. It was really awful.
Starting point is 00:15:26 I mean, we knew what had happened. That was worse, me and the crew. Oh, yeah. But I think the general pontus sensed terrible clues. The darkness. The performance, though. The darkness weren't. Oh, Justin.
Starting point is 00:15:41 Justin still gets gigs. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, Stony! Get off. You should get him doing, Rich. Yeah. He'd be all right.
Starting point is 00:15:49 He had a falsetto, apparently. Oh. Justin. Yeah. Is it Justin Harkness? Hawkins. Yeah, that was it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:59 And a gold cat suit he loved. I watched him. You know when they surprised people on Michael McIntyre's Big Night Out? Yes. When like a music act turns up and they have to get in a lift and when they get out, they're on stage and they have to sing. They did it to him. I have never, ever seen anyone who so obviously had been told what was going to happen as he did.
Starting point is 00:16:25 And I just know, from having interviewed him and stuff, I don't think there's an agent in the world that would have risked not telling you. So as soon as they said it was him, I thought, well, he'll fucking know. And he got up. He took his shirt off in about in the first five seconds. He's always got his shirt off. He's got loads of tattoos all over his body. Not a point in having tattoos all over your body.
Starting point is 00:16:48 They like to show them all. Yeah. Secret tattoos. What's the point? We're going to have them on the inside. Oh, Justin. Okay. So, yeah, that was...
Starting point is 00:17:00 Where was it at? Oh, it's called happy voice or something. Lucky voice, that's it. Yeah. I know. I don't. The London Ways, we don't have them in the black country. We don't have it in Birmingham.
Starting point is 00:17:12 Lucky Voice, yeah. So it was in, oh, Hockston, maybe. There's a few of them, but I've been to that one. Yeah, and it's funny because I always thought when you see it in films, karaoke is usually being done by someone in a bar, right? Like in the public space. Did it used to be like that? Yes, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:17:31 Well, now you go in a booth. And I don't think that's just fun. No, it's a different thing. They've attached shame to it. They have and I don't like that because singing's a very joyful thing and we should all be doing it publicly. No, it's it is very, it's like a laboratory experiment. It's got no atmosphere. What they should have is they should have a DJ.
Starting point is 00:17:51 You know, those rubber gloves that come through the wall that you handle isotopes and that within whole films. It really is like you've been put into, they're going to catch something from you. I think you're right. They've turned it into, there is a strange sort of, it's a strange sort of, it's a, it's a, A bit more like the private dance. We were talking about that. And recently, like in the lap dancing club, I was explaining to you how it worked if you wanted a private dance.
Starting point is 00:18:16 But I don't get that. That must mean, correct me if I'm wrong, I've never really been in one. I took bars to a booth karaoke. But when it happened in bars and stuff, obviously there's loads of people. I had no intention of singing, but they just enjoyed being there.
Starting point is 00:18:33 But I'm guessing in a booth, everybody's going to sing, are they? Well, they better sing because otherwise I'm doing all the songs. So yeah, you've got to have a group of people who want to do it. What they've done is they've sort of removed the audience. Yeah, I don't like that. There's a sort of intensity about it as well when you go into the booth. Even with a party, if there's like six or eight of you or something, it's like, right, come on, we've got to get the songs in.
Starting point is 00:18:55 I don't like it so much. No, I didn't realise. So is the non-appening in bars? Not really. The coyote, ugly days are over. Not that I've ever seen. I think in the black country you definitely have pubs where I've walked past and there's karaoke going on at three in the afternoon and everyone is pissed.
Starting point is 00:19:13 And I think all that sounds great. Is it what I call one of those pubs? Yeah, it was called, something like the Pigs Trotter. And just the weirdest demographic mishmash of people. Yeah, the Turkic. Daytime Nana drinking. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:19:29 Quarter to pass one. The bloke who. In the afternoon. The bloke who was. made redundant two sits with a half reading a second at novel. Exactly that. Oh, God.
Starting point is 00:19:42 Or someone's belting it. Somebody with their leg in a cast, natural more. Yeah. So I say probably in smaller times you get it. But yeah, I've not come across it. Lonely divorces. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:54 I love that band. Yeah. I didn't like their first album. Well, yeah, I'm going to look out for more sort of audience-based ones. But usually the group of people you're with don't want other people to hear them singing. And I say, come one, come all.
Starting point is 00:20:07 It's a bit of fun, isn't it? I like it. I think you need the right mix with karaoke of people who are shit and people who are all right. And then for me, in a night, only one person is brilliant is all I can tolerate. Definitely. Yes.
Starting point is 00:20:23 I tell you what I don't like is the person who's brilliant and we all have to hear about it. Yeah, it's like cosplay. The person, they use the Japanese and they turn up me manga stuff, but looks they've had five people working on them. They've had a pit stop. But I like the person who's made their own, you know, they made their own Clark Kent.
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Starting point is 00:22:19 Anyway, outside world. Do you want to hear, Frank, are you familiar with Joe Root? What, the cricketer? Yeah. Yes. I know. Of course I know that you are, but I'm just saying this is inclusive.
Starting point is 00:22:30 It's probably our greatest ever batsman. Well, South End Sean says this is an IEM you will understand. I'm currently watching the cricket and I've only just realized why Joe Root Where's number 66? Oh, no, 66 on the back of his shirt. I mean, I get it. I think I get it.
Starting point is 00:22:50 It's very clever. I didn't know that he wore 66. Yes. When I saw that, I thought, The trouble is with those jokes is when I first saw it, of course, I thought, oh, that's funny, don't root comfort, root 66. Because can I just establish, do cricketers, they can choose their own shirt? It doesn't correspond to a playing position or anything.
Starting point is 00:23:07 They can choose their own number. Yeah, it's just merely recognition. Right. But it's, obviously, it's based on the actual road Route 66 and the R&B song, R&B when it used to be in rhythm and blues. If you get a chance to go out west, that one, get your kicks on Route 66. In the days, some people used to get kicks, which I don't think they do anymore. It's quite quaint the concept of kicks.
Starting point is 00:23:37 There's a bit, there's a song called Supersonic Rocket Ship by there, Kinks. And he said, on my supersonic rocket ship, nobody has to be hip. Nobody has to be out of sight. They've both gone. Is hip still around? Well, no, it's now been adopted by hipsters. But nobody's out of sight anymore, are they? Oh, my God, nobody's out of sight.
Starting point is 00:24:01 Outer sight, yeah. Anyway, Joe Root, what were you saying about this? When you first saw it, you thought. Yeah, but when you've seen it for the 300th time, you think I've seen it out. It's law of diminishing returns, I appreciate that. Yeah, but I suppose there's new people coming all the time, but I can't imagine many Jen said there's know what Route 66 is. Oh, do you think not?
Starting point is 00:24:22 No, what, getting kicks? Route 66, I just know it from the song. Yeah. And getting heard of it, surely. Some of them read. Yeah. Yeah. Some of them know things.
Starting point is 00:24:36 DEMs, they read. Oh, they love a D. Frank, can I ask you a question? Have you ever DM? anyone? Never. Oh, I can't imagine that. Have you never DM'd anyone?
Starting point is 00:24:46 No. I bet he receives... I wouldn't know how to do that. But I bet Frank receives a few DMs. Have you ever opened a DM? I don't, where would it be? So, you don't have the socials, do you? I've unlaced a DM.
Starting point is 00:25:00 Oh, yes. Well, your team, your team will be opening DM for your I'm afraid. My team are no longer with us. The last one died just a couple of months ago. It was always going to happen. Oh dear. But what they'll be seeing is, it's like, you know, on Remembrance Day,
Starting point is 00:25:22 when you get the veterans from, every year there's a few less. That's how it was with my team. Are they dwindling? Yeah. You've got a big old team. You've got a personal assistant, a management team, a publicist. You're practically Eddie Murphy. Has he still got a team?
Starting point is 00:25:39 He's got a massive team. Oh, I'll bet. Well, it's got about eight kids. It's a lot of admin. A lot of life admin. Good on him. Next. I do like Eddie Murphy's. My favourite laugh. What about, so is that it? I've just worked out 6-3-66. That was from South End Sean, wanted to share that with you. We've also heard from Barry, from Como.
Starting point is 00:26:04 Como, as in Lake. I'm assuming. I'm assuming it's Lake Como. It's a place called Combo. Yeah. It's Kokomo, one of my favourite at Beach Boys songs. Yeah, I thought it was but Beach Boys. I hope there's a place called Comover. Well, if so.
Starting point is 00:26:20 Elaborate suspension which goes across the bay. You'll definitely know some old Birmingham friends who'll be living there. This is Barry from Co-O. Sadly died out, the comb over. Well, that's because of the transplant. No, it's because men shave their hands now. No, no, it's the transplant. That pulls us.
Starting point is 00:26:38 Because now, like, no foot, you don't get. footballers, if you've got money, you'll just get a transport. I know, but most people don't have money and they just shave their heads. They'll still spend it on the cosmetics. They prioritise cosmetic surgery over cars these days, Frank. I'm trying to think who's had the last prevalent comb over now. I'm thinking Bobby Charlton. Well, that's, it will have been a long time ago.
Starting point is 00:27:01 Yeah, but after him. No, no one has to courage anymore. No. It's shame. No. I think there's a sense. There's like forehead wrinkles, though, going out. It's a sense that the internet got rid of naivety,
Starting point is 00:27:14 and you need a certain naivety to see a comb over and think that it is actually a forehead affair. It's hard to see how that ever worked. Yeah. I don't know, but I think... What you look like, you look like a lantern, is what you end up looking like. But we all accepted, what I liked was that there was a social contract involved.
Starting point is 00:27:38 We all accepted that it didn't work. I know you're bald and it's going. I don't believe that you're making the efforts. I'm not sure we went that far down the... Oh, I did, Frank, with these people. I know you're bald. I know you're bored. You know you're bald.
Starting point is 00:27:55 Let us never speak of this again. I don't think I did. We were more naive in those days. You could hide stuff. Did you not believe they were? Did you not realise they were bald? I just... I never went there.
Starting point is 00:28:07 Do you know what I mean? They'd put up a sign saying I'm not bald and I didn't want to trespass. So when you saw what we used to call anchovies over a boiled egg. Did you really? Yes. That was our family name for it. We didn't say that many because we didn't know what anchovies were. Antibis over a boiled egg was a classic 70s dinner party sort of.
Starting point is 00:28:33 It was kind of like a... What people ate that as a meal? Yeah. It was a huge thing in the 70s. Was it really? I love anchovies. Me too. I guess a London dinner party, maybe.
Starting point is 00:28:42 I don't know. Maybe it was a nationwide. Well, I didn't discover them until they started putting them on pizzas. Oh, did you? Now, that was a real, that was a thing that you would serve. Like, that was a kind of prawn toast thing. I think we used to say a silver fish over a blister. But, you know, we're all different.
Starting point is 00:29:06 I love the regions and their differences. Anyway. I can't do it. Sorry, you were saying her. I'm sorry, I can't do it. I've just had a strong reaction to silverfish. Barry from Como says, Hey Frank, Miss M and Miss Hosco.
Starting point is 00:29:28 Oh, well, Mr. Red Butler, I don't matter if you do. Is it related to Joshua from coma? Well, he sounds a bit, Mr. Red Butler. Okay. Don't you think? Miss M and Ms. Husko. A good case of nominative determinism from the art director from Ardman animations being called Frank Kitty Clay.
Starting point is 00:29:51 Oh, come on, that is good. That's good. In case you know, a nomadic determinism is when your name leads you into doing certain things with your life. Yes. Although I'd be surprised if there's a hard man, a hard man. I would imagine they're all Nelly Bingbongs. Nelly Bingham. You know what I'm here?
Starting point is 00:30:12 Nelly Bingham. You know, those sort of blocs. I'd be like myself, I suppose. A bit sort of gentle and respect. Sort of people might have a comb over. Yeah. And you'll be st over a boiled egg. But I bet there isn't an hard man there, is there?
Starting point is 00:30:27 Well, they're all pasty. Not in artman animations. They're not going to be troubling themselves hard men with Sean the sheep and the like. No. You've got to be a sensitive, lovely type to make Wallace and Grommet. Do you like Wallace and Gromit, Frank? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:42 Who doesn't? Well, some might not. I do like it. Yeah, I like her. Hard men don't. I do. They don't. If you had to say, who's the ultimate odd man? Is it Vinnie Jones?
Starting point is 00:30:56 Oh, a hard man. Do you know what I mean? Hard man. I'd say Charles Bronson, the prisoner. Oh, yeah, lovely choice. Yeah. Lovely choice, sir. Yeah, Frankie Fraser.
Starting point is 00:31:07 Yeah, actual. I was going to say Jason Stathen, but. Anyone? His brother slightly irate, Frankie Fraser. Also, Frank, anyone born in the East End in the 1940s with a the in their name somewhere? Yeah, yeah, you've got a Jack the Hat, McVitt. Yeah, yeah. Is Guy Richie a odd man, not really?
Starting point is 00:31:27 I don't know he might be. Okay, maybe he is. I imagine he spends a lot of time at the gymnasium. And I see him in a roll-neck jumper with a large leather medicine ball rather than using modern equipment. I don't know why. He's the only man who wears tweed shorts. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:47 But you know, I saw an Instagram thing the other day of, do you know the chase? I'll stop showing off. Okay, forget it. Go on. I was just talking about Tweed Shots. I saw a video of, do you know, the Chase and Sean, they call them the Dark Destroyer?
Starting point is 00:32:04 Yes, I do. I know Chase people. He was on a, like, piece of gym equipment in jeans. Oh, I don't like that. Jeans on the gym. It's like a chest press and he had jeans on? Oh, it's a bit Russian. It's a bit put in.
Starting point is 00:32:21 I don't like it. One of the many benefits of East Europeans arriving in England, was it, 20 years ago, was the sudden appearance of jeans in the gym on the... No, that's what I said. It's a bit putting. Yeah, it is. It's very putted. It's like, you know, no, don't have to...
Starting point is 00:32:38 It's a bit of suffering then. No, it's like what I think is. It's like why bother, you know, it's a sort of no-nonsense. It's let's not stand on ceremony here. We've got work to be done. Let's not fanny around with shorts. Yeah, let's just go dressed like this and then go home dressed like you. There's probably a Russian word called as-is or something.
Starting point is 00:32:57 I think that's an Arab word. So, no, I have not. I do like the chase, though. I will watch that. I do. Do you want to hear about one of your favourites, Fran? Pete, the Disney character, is finally available. This is Chris and Walsall who says,
Starting point is 00:33:19 this is amazing news, Frank Emily and Ruth. Finally available as currency. He's on the new 10 pound note. Pete merch, that would be great. It really would, isn't it? Imagine if Pete from Disney was on the new 10 pound note. Oh my God, I would love that. On the fourth plinth in Trapalca Square.
Starting point is 00:33:39 And no controversy just announced. There's no humour about it. It's just done deal. There is now Pete merch on the Disney site. This hasn't been available for years. And I know this because I've seen things where people have said, oh, my daughter wanted Pete merch and Disney. Like there is no Pete merchandise available.
Starting point is 00:34:01 We do not sell Pete merchandise. There are no characters dressed as Pete as well at Disney World. Really? I wonder if that's because he's a bit unpleasant. I don't know. Yeah, he's one of the few people in Disney's original dramatic person. Yeah. Who wasn't a loving character.
Starting point is 00:34:24 And I wonder. I suppose Donald Doc actually is... But Frank, he's a bit just can be a bit snappy and grumpy. Yeah. No, snappy and grumpy, I think it was another... They were discarded from Snow White, weren't they? They were early... Droppy made it.
Starting point is 00:34:40 He made it. Not Snappy. Snappy didn't, no. Snappy didn't make it, but I think... I think he had the brittle bone. Oh, poor snappy. And they thought it was inappropriate. No longer with us.
Starting point is 00:34:52 But I think you're absolutely right. I think Donald Duck... If they put a statue of Prince on the fourth plinth, would it get massive complaints from people with Lips? Oh. Let's find out. We could not want up. myself, I'm happy to be a human statue.
Starting point is 00:35:11 It's Prince. I'd like you on the fourth plint. That'd be great, Frank. Imagine Frank on a 10-pound note. That should happen. Who was the person I used to fancy on the tenor? Who was it? Who's the one with the curly hair, Frank? Was it?
Starting point is 00:35:26 Duke of Wellington. Oh, I think it was him. Yeah. He was gorgeous. Did you remember him? No. You never have anyone fancy people on the car. I like Vince Cable and the man on the 10-pound note.
Starting point is 00:35:37 Yeah. I think it was. Was it Duke of Wellington? Frank. Duke of Wellington was definitely on one of them, yeah. He had a thick head of curly hair. Yeah, that was the one like, no, there was one who was an absolute stone cold fox on that 10 pound note. Yeah, I think you'd have liked him. He lived, of course, at the best address of anyone's ever had. What was it? His house was number one, London. Oh, no. That's what I'm after. Why can't I meet a man with that address? I mean, it's the maddest address ever.
Starting point is 00:36:08 Oh, that's so amazing. Yeah. Oh, I'm really, that's incredible. It's a sort of a dress, but you would see on a letter in, if there was a postman in Wallace and Grommy, that would be one of the letters in his back, number one, London. Or an address you give when you're stopped by the police.
Starting point is 00:36:30 Yes, you're right, it's very Paddington, isn't it? Has Wallace got a comb over? Oh, good point, has he? I think he's bald? They all are. The combovers are bald as well. Well, I didn't know. The news is out.
Starting point is 00:36:48 I never knew Terry Wogan was wearing a wig. Is that right? No. I worked with Terry Wogan and he had three weeks. Did he? That he would put weeks, one, two and three. So his hair became longer and then he'd go back to one like he'd had a hair cut. But to be fair to him.
Starting point is 00:37:07 him. He had that psoriasis thing on the scalp. Oh, did he? He couldn't really have been on telly without it. I didn't know that. It would have been... I'm just showing, this is one of the ones I fancied on the... And he was on a 50 and that's Sir Christopher Wren. Oh, okay. He looks a bit like Andy Zaltzman. Well, that's a bit awkward. He's a very funny, nice man, Andy Zaltzman, but I don't have those feelings for him. Just to finish... Yet. Quite least on the on the Well, let's see what his address is first, because I'm telling you, if it starts with a one and ends with a London, he could be in with a shout. Pete. His address is probably 1983 for four declared.
Starting point is 00:37:51 I understand that. I like that. Good. Frank, so the news is the Pete merch is now available. Pete is finally emerging from Goofy, Mickey and Coe's shadow. Now young children will finally be able to go to bed cuddling their. favourite, obnoxious, arch-nemesis of Mickey Mouse. Okay.
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