The Fumblerooski Podcast - A Bad Bet -Ep 179 The Fumblerooski Podcast
Episode Date: April 22, 2023Is the NFL wrong to have such a strict gambling policy? What do the Lions do at WR with Jameson Williams being suspended 6 games? Who are the most underrated draft prospects? Adam Wright, Justin Tucke...r, and CJ Medeiros discuss these topics and more!
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several Lions players including one commander, is facing league discipline while we are just under a week away now from the 2023 NFL Draft.
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This is the Fumble Rooski Podcast by Power88 and Seeker Weapon Consulting.
I'm Adam Wright with CJ Medeiros and Justin Tucker. As always, guys, we have another great show planned for you
tonight. So of course, as I mentioned, we're going to talk a little bit more in depth of the NFL
with a series of suspensions they just offered out for the league's uh violating the league's game gambling pro uh
policy excuse pardon my french um and on top of that we're going to go into more draft coverage
and talk about some of the most underrated draft prospects as we head um closer to the draft and
we'll go even more in depth um this wednesday give our second annual NFL mock draft for the entire 2023 draft.
Well, the first round.
We're not doing that.
You guys can do the second and third and fourth, fifth rounds on your own time.
But we'll give you the main event, the first round soon.
But in the meantime, let's get into this coverage with the NFL.
So they suspended several key players.
Well, some of them key.
So among those players, the names were wide receiver Stanley Berryhill,
wide receiver Quintez Cephas uh safety cj moore and then on this this guy's on the commanders
defensive end shaka tony tell me if tell me if i got that one right yeah shaka tony that's right
okay the most notable name here wide wide receiver, first round pick,
Jamison Williams for the Detroit Lions.
So the issue here is that he was a first round pick, obviously.
He was coming back from an ACL tear.
I was pretty excited for this guy's comeback season, potential breakout.
He was a guy who I probably would have taken in one of the late fantasy draft rounds.
But he's going to be off the board.
We can talk a little bit more about what the Lions do without Jamison Williams
and kind of those two sides in particular.
But I just wanted to talk about the gambling policy in general.
What are you guys' thoughts on that?
These players getting disciplined.
CJ, go first.
I guess I need to know what they're gambling on.
Do we know?
What are they betting on?
I have no idea.
It was just online betting.
It was just regular betting, I guess.
This is an issue that I think transcends the NFL.
Because I'm not a baseball guy,
but I do believe that Pete Rose should be in the Hall of Fame.
And I believe that this whole gambling thing is just ridiculous.
Truly, it is.
And, well, I just – if you're not betting on games,
because, look, I understand why you wouldn't –
why the NFL wouldn't want their guys to bet on games.
But it's the offseason, just where you care, you know?
I mean, am i nuts here uh i i i kind of agree with the pot with the gambling policy and
i think they should be a little a little on the stricter side on it just because if you allow
even an inch uh in gambling then it could compromise the game because then you get a potential black hawks uh black uh black socks scandal in the mlb
where they were given money to throw the world series that was a pro that was a huge problem
now it was it happened in 1919 so no one talks about it but that's something that could
potentially happen which is also partially why why Pete Rose was hit so hard.
Um, once he was caught gambling, because there are situations like that. Um, now there are,
there are situations where, you know, the player was kind of innocent and it was just,
it was just harmless gambling. Um, and it didn't affect the game, but once you even give an inch,
then it could compromise the entire league.
So I do kind of agree with it.
Now there's a lot of arguments while, uh,
Deshaun Watson's still in the league.
Why is he allowed to play?
And that's two, two things are true in one at once.
This guy should Deshaun Watson.
If there is something going on, if they, the league believes it,
he should absolutely be out of the league,
but that doesn't mean the other thing is untrue right like calvin ridley was betting
he gets suspended you get disciplined for that you don't give an inch there i just i kind of
agree with it i i happen to agree with with the gambling issue because it could compromise the
it could compromise the game that we know and love. Yeah, I kind of agree. You kind of need to have the gambling thing because if people
start betting on games and they significantly can influence the game,
then yeah, you kind of have to draw a firm line in the stand
on where the league stands on gambling. Some things are
okay, but they can't allow other things. So as long as the league continues
this way, I have no problem with it.
I think this was an unfortunate situation for Jameson Williams to be caught up in it.
But at the same time, you have to be aware of what you can and can't get away with in the NFL, specifically if millions are on the line.
It is what it is.
You're too smart to allow something like this to happen.
So hopefully these guys will learn from it and move on from this in a better direction.
And thankfully they all didn't get a whole year like Calvin Ridley.
So, yeah, there is one thing I want to touch on.
I don't think that – I mean, I think while I'm really kind of like pro-gambling,
I would argue that you shouldn't be allowed to bet on games you're playing
and you shouldn't be allowed to bet on other NFL games
or anything NFL related
that you might have insider knowledge on.
Well, I believe once it's out of the realm of the NFL,
go ham, I literally don't care.
I mean, if it creeps back to the NFL, that's one thing.
But if it's related to the NFL, no, I'm sorry.
You lay down the law.
I don't know.
What if there's other people in different organizations like the NBA?
They could ask them to throw games if they're betting on it.
Well, see, here's the thing.
That's not an NFL problem, and that's an NBA problem.
And the NBA can handle it their way.
Yes, but what if there's a deal that comes into play let's say
the and the and an nfl player bets on an nba player and then he says okay i'll do this if you
do if you go and do that in the nfl uh-huh and the odds of this happening are doesn't matter about
the odds okay and how do we know i'm saying you can't give an inch you're opening you see we're opening a can
of worms here if you even give an inch there's going to be some way that it creeps into the
into the game and we can't allow that already happening it could be because i believe that
these players gamble believe me i mean look but you've been on the kentucky derby right
i mean how many nfl players do we see there every year?
And the NFL does nothing about it.
The NFL picks and chooses.
And to your point, I'm not saying it couldn't happen.
I'm just saying it probably already does.
So we just allow it.
Well, we do know that it happens because players get caught.
But once they get caught, then they're disciplined for a year.
You get a year without pay. I mean, that's crippling to Calvin Ridley's career.
He was going to get traded somewhere and he was going to have quite the career wherever he was.
I mean, that's, that's career altering for him. And other, other players are going to look at
that and they're going to say, okay, maybe I shouldn't do that. I mean, Pete Rose got hit
the hardest.
He's out of baseball for life.
And maybe it was an overcorrection with the Black Sox scandal earlier on. The MLB does have a reputation of hitting players hard with suspensions.
But, I mean, you just can't give an inch.
You really can't.
Because I don't even want to take a chance at this
potentially ruining the game.
I mean,
it's already happening in the league literally just picks and chooses who
gets in trouble.
Cause let me tell you something.
If Tom Brady was betting on games, we would not hear about it.
Yeah.
Because he actually followed the league policy when it comes to things like
that.
He wouldn't be dumb enough to get caught.
All right. Then who would be?
Because let me tell you something, if it's a star, like a really big name,
I'm sorry, they're not going to get in any kind of trouble.
Or look at Jameson Williams.
We all know Aaron Rodgers would, and I don't think they'd suspend him.
We don't know that.
Jameson Williams and Calvin Ridley just got suspended.
Pete Rose is out of baseball.
I know you did not just say those are big names.
You don't want to play this game.
Those are pretty big.
They're not big names in comparison to Tom Brady.
Not in comparison to those two, but those are still pretty notable players.
Jamison Williams, the man who only has one catch.
I mean, I'll give you that for Calvin Ridley,
but he's not even a top-ten receiver.
Right now.
I'm talking about that elite tier.
If those guys did it, they would not get in trouble.
And I bet you they already do.
I think they would get in trouble.
It's just that you don't hear anything because when they do gamble,
it's within the league policy.
And honestly, I do think Calvin Ridley is a top 10 receiver,
just for the record.
When he's at his best, but he was injured the last time he played
for half the year, and then he was hit with a suspension.
But before then, 100%.
He can't be top 10.
Decision-making is not there.
I've seen some of that.
But that could come down to his betting.
Which one do you want to call it?
Before we go, before we wrap this up,
I remember Adam's intro and I thought of one better.
I was going to say one commander leads five lions into the cage
known as the NFL suspension.
Oh, I like that.
I like that.
You'll have to see it.
We'll let you be the main host from now on.
No.
All right. I want to change gears here um we're going to kind of stay on the topic of
these suspensions except go veer more towards jameson williams now that he's come up and what
the lions do without him because they're they're going to be without him for about six games but
that's it and so do you go for one in the draft? Do you go free agency?
Do you stick with what you have? That's all next. This is and the pass is no sign yet.
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Adam Wright, CJ Medeiros, Justin Tucker. So Jamison Williams is among several players who have been hit with a suspension due to the NFL league's gambling policy.
For some reason, that can't come out correctly today.
League's gambling policy.
What's that?
League's gambling policy.
League's gambling.
It's just a mouthful, that's all.
But so the Lions now on their wide receiver roster,
they already lost DJ Chark because they only had him signed for one year.
They traded TJ Hawkinson, who was a tight end, granted,
during this past season.
So really their only legitimate pass catcher, who's a great one, by the way,
very, very good one, is Amon Ross St. Brown.
So without Jamison Williams, it'll be six games,
but this is a team that was kind of looking to contend
we've been talking about all offseason long.
So this is kind of a wrench thrown in the machine here.
So what do you do here?
Because you,
you don't,
you want to be able to get,
get off to a good start in these first six games.
So what do you do?
There's free agency.
There's a few,
there's a few names you were talking about off camera.
There's the trade market,
a couple of guys who are,
who could be dealt to the lions.
There's one in particular named DeAndre Hopkins. That would
be a bigger fish to fry, but you could also go to the draft, which is less than a week away.
And now do you use one of their first round picks on it, which they were planning to use on
probably defense, or do you go with one of their day two picks? To be honest, I think they were going to go with a wide receiver anyways.
Even if you have Jamison Williams,
they still don't have much depth at the wide receiver position.
It's just Jamison Williams and Aminra Saint-Brown.
It's just those two.
So they were probably going to do it already,
but do they take one earlier now?
Do they trade up to pick one?
So I just wanted to i just
wanted to get your thoughts on that uh talk i'll throw it to you first oh man they could go in so
many directions but i think they should go in the draft and either draft a wide receiver with
similar qualities to jameson williams or draft a tight end that's the way I'm feeling right now.
Cause I was thinking, you know what?
Could you imagine the lions drafting tight end Darnell Washington out of
Georgia?
I'm not going to lie.
I kind of like that.
The more and more I think about that,
I could especially with Dan Campbell as the head coach,
I could see him pulling the trigger on that,
especially since they don't have like a proven tight end since they traded
TJ Atkinson. The way I
see it, if they get Darnell Washington,
they got a six-man on the line of scrimmage
as a tight end for blocking
and another possible pass catcher.
And he's going to be
a mother to bring down. So the way
I'm looking at it,
as a matter of fact, I'm talking myself into it. They should draft
Darnell Washington with one of those picks.
One of their first-round picks, right?
Yeah.
Because that's where he'll be.
He'll be there in the second.
Oh, maybe.
He's too big and too athletic to make it to the second.
All right.
So, Tuck has a drafting tight end in the first round.
CJ, what are they doing?
I think they take a tight end, but I think Michael Mayer.
No.
Why not?
There's no Washington's athleticism in his frame.
And his only 45 catches in his three years in Georgia.
Sure, buddy.
He's literally the third best tight end behind Kincaid or Mayer.
Don't get it twisted.
Georgia has the best tight end coming out of the draft next year don't they
oh we'll see anyway so when i look at the lions receiving room jameson williams not there
uh stanley barry hill not anymore you don't but see here's the thing you have almonra
but i had to realize this you also have marvin Jones Jr., Kalief Raymond, and Josh Reynolds,
which they're not great, but they're pretty serviceable death pieces,
especially Reynolds and Raymond, who's been coming into his own as of late.
And I am adamant that this is not something that you trade DeAndre Hopkins for
because that's like a permanent solution to a temporary
problem i mean yeah yeah so i i'm just saying i don't think you go round one for a receiver i
don't know maybe in round three you pick up something like jonathan mingo or xavier hutchinson
i think that could work but above all
I think that Josh Reynolds and Kalief Raymond are pretty good options I mean so first and foremost
take a look at Josh Reynolds who last year is like wide receiver three got 479 yards and three
touchdowns I won't lie that's not that's not bad for literally a few minutes
and then uh you know then you have khalif raymond who was like wide receiver four to start the year
and he ended up with 616 yards so these guys aren't exactly scrubs i'll leave it at that yeah um so i i completely forgot about those two they do have
those guys and they're not bad um they'll still want something more at the wide receiver position
because that seems so you have amon raw saint brown marvin jones jr we'll see how he how he'll
be at his age josh rey Josh Reynolds, that's not bad,
but if you're looking to contend this year,
you might want something more.
And I'm just looking at the, and I agree.
I think I offered up DeAndre Hopkins as an option,
but it's just an option.
I agree.
I don't think they should go for DeAndre Hopkins as well
because that's kind of a commitment.
But there's some guys on this market who aren't bad. Like it's not, it's not like the wide receiver market right now for free agency is great. But so the number one guy is
Kenny Galladay who got released. He's still 29. And I know he's had a, he had a nightmare of a
stint over with the Giants,
but let's not forget what he did in his first stint with Detroit.
And then he would be coming back to a better situation there.
It wouldn't be bad.
I just hope there's no bad blood between those two.
Maybe there is because the Lions did let him walk.
Maybe it was just the price tag.
I don't know.
But if I were them and there's no bad blood there,
I would roll the dice on Kenny Galladay.
There's also Jarvis Landry.
He's 30.
You could get something out of him.
Other guys include Sammy Watkins,
Brashad Perryman.
Demarcus Robinson.
I mean, those last couple names are kind of more on the level of
marvin jones and uh josh reynolds but there's some options there as well and like i said i
think they're gonna they were probably going to take a wide receiver in this draft at some point
anyways i just didn't think it was going to be this early. Now, a tight end in the first round, that wouldn't be the worst idea
because that is a position where they don't have anything in there anymore.
I wonder if Hawkinson just wanted out because I wouldn't have traded him.
I mean, you're a team on the up and up, and Hawkinson's still relatively young.
But you did, so now we're in this position.
Yeah, with that late first round pick pick or it's still in the top
half of the kind of in the top half of the draft but i would use i you could use that as a for a
tight end that would be a good that would be a good spot um to take uh to take one of the guys
who is who is there for the tight end position The only problem you would have is that tight ends do take some time to develop.
So it might be a year or so before these guys actually pan out and become what they could
potentially be.
Because it just takes a while for tight ends for some reason.
All right.
But I do need to make a choice, though, because I've been kind of –
Sitting on the fence here.
I've been sitting on the fence.
I have.
Any day now.
I think free agency.
I think Kenny Galladay, if he's around and he doesn't hate them
because he is a former Lion, they should roll the dice on him.
He'll probably be cheap.
And he has a, I think he has a high ceiling, relatively low floor.
But I think if you go out and you grab Kenny Galladay, it couldn't hurt.
It couldn't hurt.
It'll help them.
I think that'll help them.
Worst case scenario, he still has the drop syndrome.
And you just have Jared Goff just not throw to him.
That's it.
Go to Amon Ross St. Brown.
He can't just be a decoy if he can't catch.
He has to come out the game, and you're just wasting money at that point.
Yeah, but he would come cheaper because now he has less value than when he left Detroit in the first place.
Because when he left, he was actually a pretty good wide receiver.
Yes.
Now that, uh, that last season he was there in the games he did play, he was pretty good.
The, just the problem was he was always getting hurt. So that was the issue, which is why Detroit didn't want to pay him anymore.
But when he was healthy, boy, that guy could play.
He could play.
He could get the – not only was he able to get the yardage,
but he had a nose for the end zone too.
And if you get even, let's say, 70% of what he was, 60% even,
then that's a solid wide receiver too to Amon Ross St. Brown
until Jamison Williams comes back refreshed and ready to go.
Then you have Jamison Williams, Amon Ross St. Brown, and Kenny Galladay.
That's a contending team right there, especially in this NFC.
I think that's the way I'm going to go.
All right.
Oh, yeah.
That's my spot.
All right.
We're going to Washington for the the win we could do that too
we'll do that too they'll have michael mayer excuse me sorry jared goff will have all these
different targets to throw to and it will be as if jameson williams never left but he did because
he got in trouble with the gambling policy all No one's as fast as Jameson Williams.
That's the issue.
What?
No one's as fast as Jameson Williams.
That's the issue.
Yeah.
Well, they'll only be without him for six games.
So it'll be all right.
We'll be okay.
They'll do fine.
All right.
So we're going to change topics here.
We're going on to our main coverage for today in the NFL draft.
Talk about the most underrated draft prospects in this class.
You won't want to miss this one. It's next.
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So, there's a lot of different prospects in this draft.
Very deep at several different positions.
We're going to talk about who we think are the most underrated draft prospects.
So, plenty of them on either side of the ball.j i'll throw it to you my draft guy oh underrated guy thank you adam you brought that up very well some would consider me
a draft guy i know i would but let me tell you something let me tell you what i believe it's
also your description too so yes that is correct that it was a title that was given to me that's neither
here nor there given by yourself yes that is correct but that but that's neither here nor
there like i said so here's the deal i did some thinking and in the first round you know you got
guys you know receivers like quentin johnston zay flowers j, Jordan Addison, Jackson Smith, and Jigba. Those
are good. But you know who's not getting his love? Tennessee wide receiver Jalen Hyatt. This kid,
oh my God, last college season has 1,267 receiving yards, literally averaging 18.9 yards per catch and 15 touchdowns.
Cube minus was all in 12 starts.
And his NFL comparison, I think, is correct.
Deshaun Jackson, this kid is fast.
He's agile.
He's got a 4.4 40-yard dash and a 1.5 10-yard split
and a vertical jump of 40 inches.
This kid, he's got the speed.
He's got the agility.
He can fool guys when he's going deep.
He can make his cuts very well.
He can just go past the man coverage.
His routes are actually, well, his route tree is limited, I will admit,
but the routes that he does run, oh, boy.
And he's especially dangerous when they do those pitching catch things,
like those wide receiver screens.
Kick it out to him on the side, watch him go.
He's not the greatest blocker, but he's willing.
He puts his heart into everything.
And I honestly believe that he could end up sneaking into the first round.
He's going to be a raven. believe that he could end up sneaking into the first round. Oh, man.
He's going to be a raven.
Oh, tough.
I wouldn't be upset if he was.
I wouldn't be upset if he was, if he snuck into the first round.
You should be.
Dude, if y'all draft him, you should be elated.
That kid's going to be a beast.
I hope so.
We drafted him.
I mean, when I look at him him when i saw that killer game from
alabama i was like there's no way it'll last until the second round so if he does get picked
by us i'll be happy with it but for me look for me my underrated draft pick and again
i'm going out there i'm looking through the i'm looking through the field and i decided
let me go to quarterback because he already chose the wide receiver spot,
and I didn't want to just double dip there.
So I went quarterback.
And I'm not picking one of the first four quarterbacks that are going into the
first round because, let's face it, all of them are going first round
because that's how needy people are for quarterbacks.
I decided, hmm, who's a project quarterback outside of Hendon Hooker
and Anthony Richardson that I believe could be a starting in the NFL for a couple of games while a potential injury happens to a starter?
And I thought to myself, who could fill those shoes?
And I thought Dorian Thompson Robinson from UCLA, the quarterback from UCLA.
The reason I say that is because I see the skill set of Kyler Murray, but I don't think he's there yet mentally or as far as accuracy-wise. So I think he would have
to sit down a year. And that's the problem, which is why I don't want him to go to Arizona.
Because I know he would start immediately for Kyler Murray. But if they want to see what they
have, I think they'll draft him just as a stead place for uh kyle murray
because i see the similar skill sets within those two but overall i just want him to sit
for one year because within the next year i think he'll be better than what he is currently
now justin let me just say i totally agree dorian th Thompson Robinson from UCLA. Look, I'll admit below average size, but it doesn't matter.
This kid's extremely athletic and his arm's not that bad either.
He can get through his progressions, his spirals good.
And one of his biggest strengths is how he respects defenses.
He's not going to force anything.
He's a solid decision maker.
But if need be, he can kind of pepper in his passes over linebackers
and below safeties.
The only things I'd say are, yeah, you hit the nail right on the head, though.
He's very raw.
But I do believe you give him a year, somebody gets hurt,
he could step in and win you a few games.
That's what I believe. He's just so talented. I just need him to him a year, somebody gets hurt, he could step in and win you a few games. That's what I believe.
He's just so talented.
I just need him to wait a year, and I think he'll be able to explode.
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Wow.
All right.
So I had to think long and hard for this one.
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Because to find underrated draft prospects, it's hard.
Because there's a lot of players in this draft.
And when you hear underrated, that usually means there's a high probability
that they won't be all that good.
And you're going to hear all the buzz from the players who are going to be
either sure things or have high upside.
But I look at
the running back position bijan robinson has been getting all of this hype like rightfully so don't
get me wrong he has he got over 1500 yards and he is serviceable pretty good as a pass catcher
but no love for jameer gibbs who is going to be my pick tonight.
So this guy, not only does he have an ability to rush with the ball,
he can also catch it, which is extremely important to be an all-around back.
I think this guy, if he winds up being drafted into the right position
where he's going to be a workhorse back,
he'll be one of the better backs in the league.
Fantasy football owners will be lining up to draft this guy,
at least in the next couple years, because he's going to be underrated.
He's underrated right now.
He still has a little bit of hype, but not nearly as much as he should be getting.
And Bijan Robinson, this is no shade towards Bijan.
He's going to be a really good back, maybe great.
He's been looked at as the second coming of Saquon Barkley,
and he could be.
I mean, well, it's not like Barkley's done much in the NFL to me.
Let's not slander Saquon here.
Let's move on.
Let's not slander Saquon here i'm not
slandering saquon i'm just calling it how it is he's in new york exactly there's i mean
lots of injuries lots of injuries and he's only had really two three legitimate wide receiver running back one years.
It's just been a little underwhelming.
But I'm not saying, no shade, no shade at all.
No shade towards Bijan either.
That kid's going to be a stud.
I'm just saying, Jameer Gibbs, don't sleep on this guy.
Don't sleep on this kid, especially coming out of Alabama,
which is known to be a running back school.
This kid's going to be good.
And he's projected to go in the second round.
Like, this guy should absolutely get some more love.
So that's my guy, Jameer Gibbs.
If he's in the second round and the Patriots are on the clock,
I would like them to pick him.
I wouldn't mind.
Yeah, I wouldn't hate it, Adam, as a Pats fan.
And real quick, I do want to point out that I love Jameer Gibbs.
He is the prototypical do-it-all back.
He's fast.
He runs a 4.3640, and he's got a 1.52 10-yard split.
And he can create separation.
He can wind them up in the slot. He can catch out of the backfield. Or he can run. he can wind him up in the slot he can catch out of
the backfield or he can run he can make you miss in the open field he's just he and even in the
kick return game he's got a lot of potential no matter how you slice it this guy is dangerous and
i honestly see shades of uh someone like alvin camara in his game. Exactly. And Kamara has had quite the career as a New Orleans Saint in the NFL.
So just saying.
And honestly, I would make the argument that so far Alvin Kamara has had a better career
than Saquon Barkley in the NFL.
Just saying.
He could argue that.
I'm sorry, say that one more time.
Oh, boy.
I think Alvin Kamara so far has had a better career in the NFL
than Saquon Barkley has.
Career.
That's tough.
I think yes.
I think yes.
The problem with Kamara is he's never rushed for 1,000 yards, I don't think.
I think he's been close, but I don't think he's ever surpassed it.
Let me just make sure.
And yet he still has more career rushing yards than Saquon.
Because he's been in the league longer.
Wait, really?
Only by a year.
Only by a year, but yeah.
I believe so.
Were they drafted the same time?
No.
No, they weren't.
If it was, it was by a year no no they weren't it was by a year
if it was it was by a year because I'm pretty sure it was 2017 when he was first drafted
but I mean just just Alvin Kamara's all-around play um yeah I think that's very that's very
comparable to Jameer Gibbs on what he's capable of being because he can he can run he can rush the ball and he can
catch it and he's not he hasn't been world beating at either side but he's very good at both so that
is that screams Alvin Kamara to me and he can get to the end zone as well which is also Alvin Kamara
that's I think that's a good comparison. Good job, CJ.
Yeah, and they are a year apart because I remember Kamara's crazy 2017
draft selection with the Saints
because it was just a crazy year for the Saints
because they got Lattimore, Ramsey,
and Kamara in that same draft
and Marcus Williams.
That was an insane
thing they pulled off.
That was an important draft for them too.
Yeah, that's what set them up to go to the NFC Championship game
and almost make the Super Bowl.
Those draft picks.
That was because they were lacking on defense for years,
and they were looking for those players, and they got them.
They got them, so they did pretty well.
And Marcus Williams was signed to miss the pack long.
The rest is history.
And a pass interference call.
Oh, yeah.
Who could forget?
Oh, geez.
Yeah.
That Saints team is just cursed, man.
And now they lost their Hall of Fame quarterback.
Oh, well.
All right.
Well, that's basically all the material that we had preplanned for today.
But do we have anything else before we end the show tonight?
Other than go Celtics? No.
And go Lakers.
I was just checking up on them.
At halftime,
well, it's almost halftime. Oh, shoot.
Yeah, the Hawks
are up 72-64.
So you guys are going to watch this episode
and you're going to say,
oh, because you can see this in an hour, maybe a few hours,
and then, oh, the Hawks won by a lot or the Celtics blew doors.
But, all right, that's neither here nor there.
All right, that'll do it for us tonight.
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