The Fumblerooski Podcast - A Pittsburgh Problem -Ep 361 The Fumblerooski Podcast

Episode Date: May 9, 2025

In our final Friday episode until August, Steelers trade George Pickens to the Cowboys for a 2026 3rd round pick and a 2027 5th round pick. Good trade for the Steelers? Good trade for the Cowboys? Wha...t does this mean for both teams, and what could happen with Aaron Rodgers and the Steelers? New theory as to why Rodgers hasn't signed yet? Chris Costich and CJ Medeiros talk all this and more!

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Starting point is 00:00:00 George Pickens traded to the Dallas Cowboys for a 2026 third round pick a 2027 fifth round pick What does this look like for the Steelers going forward? And what is the Cowboys wide receiver room gonna look like and how are they gonna adapt? With George Pickens now on the team. This is the fumble Roosky podcast It may not have always showed it in the staff sheet, but you can see him making throws when he needs to make the throws. Back to back games where he has three touchdowns. Someone's gotta get that six or seven spot. He's an elite wide receiver as a rookie. Truly a lose-lose scenario for both sides.
Starting point is 00:00:40 Welcome to the Fumbler's Key Podcast by PowerD18 radio and secret weapon consulting Chris Kostich. He's CJ Medeiros. Happy Friday, today's May 9th, 2025. Recording this at 1.19 PM. So don't kill us if something happens at the five o'clock hour when we post this and something happens. But right now, George Pickens traded to the Cowboys yesterday for a 2026 third round pick in a 2027 fifth round pick.
Starting point is 00:01:17 There was also a sixth round pick that the Steelers had tagged to Pickens that they sent over to Dallas as well. So two for two essentially. But now Pickens out in Dallas with Dak Prescott, Brandon Cooks, we'll talk more about what the Cowboys look like a little later on. But in terms of the Steelers, now the wide receiver room looks like DK Metcalf,
Starting point is 00:01:50 Robert Woods, Calvin Austin, throwing Scottie Miller, Super Bowl champion Scottie Miller. Who's throwing them the ball? Roman Wilson from Michigan too. What was that? Roman Wilson from Michigan last year, he hurt. Yep, Norman Wilson Roman Wilson Roman Roman alright, we're good Roman Wilson from Michigan. So they'll have him see how he turns out
Starting point is 00:02:18 But in terms of just looking at the trade in general first before we go into the outlook of the Steelers. I think that the third, like a third round pick and a fifth round pick, I think it's fine. I honestly, I honestly probably would have went a little lower I honestly probably would have went a little lower or try to because like a George Pickens has some baggage. There's no denying that he might be entertaining to watch in terms of his antics, but he's also going to say a lot of things that that's for certain.
Starting point is 00:03:06 Is this a good trade for the Cowboys? Sure. I mean, George Pickens is a talented wide receiver. He is. But he also says a lot of shit and then either can't back it up or gets in his own head via the six drop game he had against Cincinnati last year. Just just to name an instance, that was something that we were talking about right before we started recording this. But CJ, is this a good trade for the Steelers?
Starting point is 00:03:39 I feel like it is in a sense, yes. But at the same time, maybe you're trying, like there are technically still in the sweepstakes for Aaron Rodgers if we still wanna keep him on the table. So it seems like this could either be a good thing or a bad thing in terms of that, but good trade or bad trade.
Starting point is 00:04:09 thing in terms of that but good trade or bad trade for Pittsburgh now this is gonna be such a cop-out sorry guys because it depends on what you consider a good trade because as a whole Pickens is a good player I mean just strictly from athletic ability and everything else I would say yeah I know he's actually a really solid player I mean he's a thousand yard receiver he's shined relatively despite not that great QB play he's never really had a nose for the end zone but he's still good to get you four to five touchdowns a year. I also do want to state that he's also dealt with some terrible property coordinators too. Yeah, bad OCs and stuff like that. But the thing is with Pickens, it's all about attitude. He like, In fact, I want to do a flashback real quick to the 2022 NFL draft when he was drafted
Starting point is 00:05:11 He was considered the biggest boomer bus prospect at that time as far as receivers went And the elephant in the room, of course was his ACL tear However, that seemed to dissipate after the combine where they said, you know, he looked fast, he looked fluid, he recovered completely. But the real issue was his character. That was probably his biggest weakness in that draft when you look at NFLDraftBalls.com. He had a number of off-field issues. He violated team rules before he had punched other players and had to be ejected. In fact, his own head coach, Kirby Smart, outright called him undisciplined.
Starting point is 00:05:54 And, and that frankly just didn't get better when he went to the NFL. That sounds bad. I guess This is just coming into us right now Omar Khan said that Pickens never even requested a trade Steelers decided to do this all on their own. Well, we knew that but now it's confirmed. So yeah, yeah Basically Omar Khan was Steelers GM Chris allow me to reiterate here has Well, we knew that but now it's confirmed. So yeah, yeah, basically Omar Khan was Steelers GM Chris allow me to reiterate here has confirmed that pickings never requested a trade out of Pittsburgh. They took the initiative here and
Starting point is 00:06:38 You know, there's a lot to unpack there but I'll we'll circle back This is what you were initially gonna go with and then we'll move on to that. Yeah no no I'll circle back don't worry. It's just so Pickens playing simple it just didn't get better. He screams at his quarterback so get in the face of anyone on the team he fights with his coaches. He literally like fights as in like this fight, like opposing players. And what I hated is how people covered up and say, Oh, he's just got passion. He's a dog. He's a fighter.
Starting point is 00:07:12 He's, he's scrappy. He's. And I was like, that's what you want. It's like, yeah, but with your own players, like on your own team, where he screams for the ball and says stuff like, Oh, I'm open even when I'm not well He didn't say that that's kind of how it comes across how he's good to man like you force feed him No knowing by the way that he takes routes off He quits on plays when he knows he's not getting the ball and he's just a bad locker room guy in general
Starting point is 00:07:42 He's got a horrific temper he's He's just a bad locker room guy in general. He's got a horrific temper. He's, he just, he wears his heart on his sleeve. He's immature. He's undisciplined. He, like I said, he literally will just fight players randomly, like I don't know why, but as, and you know, I'm sorry. Some people are like, oh, that's slanderous against pickings.
Starting point is 00:08:04 And some people like really, oh, that's slanderous against Pickens. And some people like really John, well either way you defend them and things like that. And they've taken certain routes to say, oh, you can't talk about him that way. That's not very nice. It's like, well, look, I'm sorry, Pickens defenders. There's no corner of the earth where you can now hide from the truth.
Starting point is 00:08:23 It's time for you to face the music. The Steel literally just said no, we've had it with your nonsense It's over. It's over get out and From off and so circling back to whether or not it's a good trade when you offload that type of guy and You still will probably end up with a top 100 pick, that's pretty good considering the fact you had to pay the diva tax. So you know how we talk about suck tax for teams, this is a diva tax where you move a player who's a known headcase.
Starting point is 00:08:59 The fact you still got a third, I can't even be mad at that for Pittsburgh. You're offloaded that the only issue is now you have a whole wide receiver to show you have DK Who's just another nutcase in and of himself? But it's a different type of nutcase though. Yeah, he's like George Pickens, but like diet, you know Yeah, like he's not gonna say anything Absolutely redundant to the media, but he's gonna have some he's gonna act out. Yeah, like he's not gonna say anything absolutely redundant to the media, but he's gonna have some he's gonna act out Yeah, and the thing with Pickens is how there's two instances that alarm me the most about him one
Starting point is 00:09:36 Was there's this guy on social media who talks football or whatever. I don't remember his name I know he's got a fair amount of followers and he was saying what, what's the problem with George Pickens? Here's a timeline of his attitude problems. Pickens saw the video went into the comments and said, Hey, send me your address. It's like, dude, what? That's crazy. What? Oh my God, you have millions of dollars and you're compared with what some dude on IG says dude Please like grow a thicker skin and then then there's last season where it's week 18 against the Bengals I believe right and Pickens just quit on the team Which is funny because the week before
Starting point is 00:10:22 He he wind up a storm to the media about how he never gets the ball And then you had you know, wilson force feed him And he had drop after drop after drop and and then to keep their hopes of winning that game alive He just took the route off didn't realize that the play was designed for him Wilson threw him the ball and by the time he got his head around, it was too late. And by the way, I do wanna point out how much of a good trade it is for Pittsburgh because this is per the athletic.
Starting point is 00:11:01 George Pickens was apparently made available for trade during the draft process. And especially like during the combine, teams laughed at the Steelers at the mere thought of inviting someone like George Pickens into the locker room. By the way, that's not me. That is literally per the athletic and I quote multiple NFL teams reportedly laughed at the idea of adding Steelers wide receiver George Pickens to their roster and inviting him into their locker room due to his reputation per the athletic like
Starting point is 00:11:39 Yeah, that's it. So once again to all to everyone who defends pick and says oh, he's not that bad People just don't like him because he's a dog. Well, there you go. The NFL teams say you're wrong. And the thing is, he had character concerns back in college. We already know this, but this is the big point. This is a Pittsburgh problem. I don't know what in the Allegheny River,
Starting point is 00:12:03 which is in Pittsburgh if you know your geography, like attracts divas there, but this is nothing new. You had Antonio Brown, Mr. Ctespn himself, hey, hey, not slandering, that's what he calls himself, that's what he says. Then you had TikTok boy Juju, Martavis Bryant, who in the words of Stephen A. Smith, could not stay off the weed
Starting point is 00:12:26 Sorry, I could have gone into it more right now You had I want to pause you might be the most arrogant person ever and then Deontay Johnson who flat-out quit What is it with Steelers and taking all these like insane whiteouts? like come on at least I'll give Tomlin a scoche of credit because Now finally circling back to how Pickens and requested trades was on the Steelers This was actually on Tomlin Tomlin did not want him there Tomlin brought this up to the team and just said it's not gonna work because yeah You know what Pickens is like in your ear screaming every other play. I wouldn't want him there either
Starting point is 00:13:01 No, I agree. Um, I I wouldn't want him there It's just, but still he's just a stealer's receiver that just flat out couldn't keep his nose clean. I'm not even trying to make a point. I'm just, I'm just- No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
Starting point is 00:13:33 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, then afterward, Juju, Bryant, Claypool, Johnson. And I know everyone's like, oh, Mike Tomlin's the diva whisperer, he can handle them. No, he cannot.
Starting point is 00:13:58 All these guys go to Pittsburgh and then just turn, and then literally, you go to Pittsburgh and You know on the team bus and then you'll leave in a straight jacket that seems to be what it is The only player I'll give them credit for is Pickens You know because they didn't turn Pickens into a nutcase. He went to Pittsburgh already insane. But then again in that case, he went to Pittsburgh already insane. But then again, you knew he was insane. You still let him in the locker room. So I don't know.
Starting point is 00:14:31 Hopefully the sixth time is the charm and they'll learn their lesson, but I doubt it. Yeah, it's funny to think how like Martavis Bryant could considerably be the least tame of any Steelers player in terms of like the only thing that he really got in trouble for was the weed stuff. And that that's pretty tame, to say the least. It wasn't like he was acting out wasn't like he was saying a bunch of shit to the media. Like he went out there and played ball
Starting point is 00:15:08 and smoked a little weed on the side. No, it's not that he didn't smoke it on the side. It's kind of like a Josh Gordon thing where it unfortunately, and by the way, I'm not saying this to hate or to do whatever, where it's not like it was on the side. It was like part of him is that he couldn't stop. He got hooked. And honestly, I don't know where he is now,
Starting point is 00:15:31 but I genuinely hope he got the help he needs or wants, because part of the two that you got to want to change. And, you know, a lot of these guys, they don't ask to get hooked. But like. You know, like when you can't put it down yet, that's a bit of a problem for a team. Yeah. I'll go a step further though on the Steelers wide receivers that this is, you could even
Starting point is 00:15:51 argue that they've been having wider like weird wide receiver stuff since the beginning of the millennium. Plaxco Burris shot himself in the leg at a club. Hines Ward, not even like saying Hines Ward was a dickhead, but he had a bit of a reputation of being kind of a cheap shot. And so did, or not so much a cheap shot, but Santonio Holmes was a bit arrogant as well. Yep. Um, so this, this has been happening since for a little bit, but it's been more well-noticed in the last 10 years. Um, well, long are the days of the Steelers wide receivers of the seventies. You know, you had, uh, guys
Starting point is 00:16:44 like John Stalworth and Lynn Swan. Lynn Swan taking ballet lessons to better his footwork on the field. Like gone are the days of that. The 2000 Steelers are head cases. But yeah. But yeah, in response to everything that you said, I'd have to agree with pretty much all of it. I mean, when you got teams that are laughing at your team for some of the like offers you're getting for or they're getting for deals for you, like you should know that maybe you're the problem, but seriously and like I said my issue
Starting point is 00:17:28 Keeps being That It's the people that defend him like in these comments like oh, you don't know ball. He's not that bad He's a dog you're slandering him and they'll take other ways to defend him to say oh so you're just biased against it was all you can't handle Good. Yes, they'll actually say oh, he's a good teammate. He want he pushes you it's like he's just insanely self-destructive and just Uncontrollable and like I said in college his own head coach Kirby smart used the term
Starting point is 00:18:03 undisciplined to describe it to others so Like I said with this and I have other teams laughing at him like sure you can keep thinking that well Like I said, there's now literally nowhere to hide from the truth Like you need to face the music here the other NFL teams disagree then there's just Dallas where it's Dallas there they'll take all kinds of characters which Mitch you want to talk about that now With sorry what with Dallas I meant I wanted to touch on one more thing in terms of the Steelers because you would think that like Because it seems a little bit more reasonable still with George Pickens on the Steelers for Aaron Rogers to go to the Steelers
Starting point is 00:18:43 At that point had been working out with DK Metcalf, but still nothing on that Steelers are still uncertain if he signs Andrew Filipino on 93.7 the fan said that he thinks that the Steelers probably wouldn't be upset if if Aaron Rod Rogers were to go up and retire today. Um, yeah. And, uh, yeah, I'm sorry. Could you know that what this will be the last thing I'll say about it as well. Um, and kind of the roundabout point, uh, Mike Florio was on 93 seven, the fan in Pittsburgh, and this was, this is according to X that Phil Pony posted.
Starting point is 00:19:30 Pro Football Talk says on 93, 7 the fan, a source told him a theory that Aaron Rodgers is waiting to sign with the Steelers until after the NFL schedule release so the league doesn't load up on early Steelers prime time games is right on the money Interesting another thing with Rodgers though is At this point, why would you want him? I mean, I know the name sounds good and people like oh
Starting point is 00:19:57 I mean some people think he's a top three QB all time I'm sorry. He has played himself out of that conversation in my eyes. I think he's played himself out of the top five. I Just he's so much of a shell of what he was and don't let those numbers against the Jets play It's like almost statistically wasn't terrible. But yeah, all of his numbers came from him Just wailing on really really bad teams. Yeah, like no, I'm not, what, am I supposed to be impressed that he beats up on like the Browns or whoever, or the Patriots, like, ooh, you're so good. And you know what's even funnier,
Starting point is 00:20:40 in a move to entice him, allegedly, the Steelers might be looking at bringing in Alan Lazard and I just on the Rogers thing. I just don't think it's a great idea Yeah, not at all At this point, it's just like what are what are we even waiting for anymore? It's just Who else is interested? I don't know. I I Feel like the only team that's still interested in Rogers from reports is the Steelers Yeah, and once they lose interest it's over and you know, the funny thing is
Starting point is 00:21:13 The players have lost interest because you know, can't heyward came out and said stop dragging your feet You want to be here? You know and another player said something to the effect of like, okay I'm tired of hearing about him every time and then you have other players that were here Oh, they might trade for Alan Lazard to bring in Rogers Stealers safety to Sean Elliott was asked about this and said quote. He's so ass Yeah, and I quote like I said so as a whole like no like I just I Feel like you're doing this or you know telling Rogers, you know, just given that idea the heave-ho telling them to screw off I really do think that's just a blessing in disguise because if you're Pittsburgh, there's really no scenario
Starting point is 00:21:56 Where you should be trying to contend I know it sucks, but you might really just have to tank like because you are If you keep going the way you're going, you will forever be mediocre. And I hate to say it, but it looks like that they're really content to be mediocre. And I would say, why don't you want more? Yeah. So another part of this, I guess we'll segue now into the Cowboys. Part of this quote from Omar Khan, the GM for the Steelers.
Starting point is 00:22:31 So obviously we got done saying how that it wasn't a trade request from George Pickens. This was all on the Steelers' Accord. The Cowboys reached out during the week. And we had some conversations internally, sorry, this is part of the quote, and with George's agent, we discussed where things were with George, where they are and where things could go. We think it makes sense for everyone, end quote. So segueing, segueing into the Cowboys, Cowboys reached out to the Steelers about getting George Pickens actually. That could probably explain why the Steelers ended up getting that top 100 pick for next
Starting point is 00:23:13 year's draft because now they ended up getting a little bit of that leverage to get a little bit more from the Cowboys. Makes it a little bit more interesting in this case that the Cowboys did reach out, especially after the report of teams laughing at the Steelers offers during the draft. So this is another interesting development in this whole thing. But it's kind of like what I said earlier on you know that Cowboys definitely could have gone away with trading maybe a fourth round pick or even a fifth round pick maybe hmm
Starting point is 00:23:56 Which they did in terms of the 27 pick, but I'm saying like 26 pick could have even been that low Yeah, honestly, I think so I feel like Dallas You know, it's also Jerry He's the GM and he was probably paranoid that some other team was gonna swoop in and grab him even though we had like no Market. Yeah, so I don't know I Do I move into this from Dallas's perspective because yeah, yeah, that's kind of what I was looking for at this point You know so looking at Dallas's receiver room now. It's a more just their team in general Obviously you got Dak Prescott as your quarterback if he gets hurt, it's Joe Millen
Starting point is 00:24:39 I'm only mentioning that because with Dax history recently. It's very much up in the air I'm only mentioning that because with Dax history recently, it's very much up in the air. Javante Williams, you're running back with Miles Sanders and rookie Jadon Blue. Wide receiver room, CD Lamb, George Pickens, Jalen Tolbert, Kavante Turpin, Jonathan Mingo with Jake Ferguson, you're tight end. That's what your offense looks like right now. It's solid. It's pretty solid running backs are going to be interesting, say the least, but it's kind of the same thing with what we said in terms of the Steelers. Like, yeah, you're letting go of a talent, a solid talent, but you're
Starting point is 00:25:18 also receiving a headcase at that point. Steelers getting rid of a headcase. Cowboys now taking in a headcase. And a team that's got a couple Mike Parsons loves to run his mouth a little bit CD lamb is his own type of Diva so You know Dallas is being Dallas right now and just making money moves right now and just making money moves. Oh my god. I...
Starting point is 00:26:00 This is such a Cowboys move. I did it. This is like no ifs, ands, or buts. this is such a Cowboys move. I did it. This is like no ifs, ands, or buts. This is a Cowboys move. That's really all I gotta say is just stereotypical Cowboys move. Take all of a guy's character concerns,
Starting point is 00:26:20 crumple it up into a ball, three point it right to the trash can, you know, just throw all caution to the wind and say, crumpling up into a ball, three point it right to the trash can. You know, just throw all caution to the wind and say, sure, he's fine. Give up a top 100 pick, which that's that's a bright idea. Dallas, you did
Starting point is 00:26:37 good but it gets funnier to me, Chris. You know why? Because Pickens isn't signing an extension with Dallas that came out. He's literally a one year rental. And the Cowboys knew this in our final, they said, oh, those people won't get a bag. We're just gonna let them hit for agency. And I'm like, was somebody as well Mercurial as Pickens
Starting point is 00:26:58 and somebody who's just as bellicose as he may be and just completely random random like you never know what you're gonna get yeah he's just that angry all the time like why would you risk that like why would you bring that in like you think he and CD Lam's gonna coexist cuz you know if Lam drops one ball of Pickens gonna be in his face if you know anything about CD Lam he does not take kindly to that and oh my god If Pickens says anything negative about Parsons, you know Parsons gonna be up his rear end like that And for the Cowboys, I I don't see the vision here
Starting point is 00:27:36 I mean, I understand why but I guess the question is when does the crash out start week 8 before week 8 after week 8 Place your votes now, kids. Once again, I just, I really don't view this as a great trade for Dallas. I mean, on paper it's fine, but when you take into consideration the fact you have a top 100 pick for a one-year rental, or what could be a one-year rental,
Starting point is 00:28:02 you could resign him, but even still, with the market for receivers you're gonna have to pay him at least 20 mill a year, which he's Talent wise is worth everything else. Absolutely not and Oh God when he blows up at Dak, that's gonna be something it just I Really don't see the upside like he's not gonna win a Super Bowl there I don't think you can win a Super Bowl with him on your team just because he's that much of a distraction. Yeah
Starting point is 00:28:31 So I'm looking through X right now just see what some of the reactions are in general Seems like a lot of people looking at the Ian Rapoport tweet of the Omar Khan quote. A lot of people not thrilled with Omar Khan, that is for sure. One tweet, one commenter said, Pittsburgh gave up Pickens to get the third rounder and a meaningless late round 27 pick swap. Whereas if they just played Pickens in 25 and let him walk in free agency He would have likely netted a wait for it third round compensate compensator Yeah, compensatory pick in 26. They gave him away. That is the dumbest thing I've ever heard
Starting point is 00:29:17 All right, hear me out. They literally said if you let him play out let him leave you could have gotten comp a compensatory pick, right? the pick That you got from Dallas is going to be higher than a compensatory pick Because compensatory picks add on to the third round because you know, it's 32 teams, right? What is 32 times 3 96 right So that means all the comp picks are going to be 97 onward. So you have a top 100 pick God
Starting point is 00:29:51 What are they teaching in the schools in Pittsburgh? No, it's not from right. So you could have got See just like what no no, and I know some people but there's one thing I do want to point out about that. I've read other comments like that Fans of the Steelers are upset about the return they got for Pickens cancer tax or not They're upset about the return but notice that they're not upset that he's gone Yeah, that's the one thing we will read these comments. They're always say oh oh, we could have gotten more. We got fleeced, yada, yada, yada. But none of them are like, no, he's gone. How will we go on? This is terrible. They're upset with their turn, but I have not seen anyone who's like legitimately upset that Pickens himself-ass face matches his ugly-ass behavior nice Hey, that's that's actually kind of come on. Come on. Yeah, that's crazy. I keep it objective keep it objective. Um
Starting point is 00:30:55 There's another one that I found a little interesting remember when the Browns started talking Super Bowl after trading for Odell May want to dampen expectations That's crazy that we're putting Odell in the same conversation or George Pickens in the same conversation as Odell. He's a lot nuttier. Yeah. But a lot of people just saying all that to go eight, nine, miss out on the playoffs, only to finish in third, like in the NFC East. It's so funny how just four months ago
Starting point is 00:31:25 y'all was calling Dak trash, but now they got a new wide receiver and all of a sudden it's who's going to stop this offense. Did y'all forget who the QB throwing to the new wide receiver is? Yeah. I don't know. I just, I don't see it working out.
Starting point is 00:31:39 Cause you all know that I'm not the highest on Dak. I think he's fine, But I don't know. I'm just waiting for Dak to get her and Joe Millen to be fun to watch. That's that's what I'm waiting for. He needs some jam three ball. Yeah. Oh, dude, that that's actually a really bad thing for Milton Yeah, is the corner report the egg-based self. Yeah. Yeah. No, he he literally like wanted out of New England So yeah, it's like oh picking starts yelling Adam Milton is just gonna go insane. Yeah, I mean If this works out this could be a fun offense to watch But I mean, if this works out, this could be a fun offense to watch. But that's a big if because of how the Cowboys have been operating recently.
Starting point is 00:32:33 Yeah. Is there a new head coach again? Brian Schottenheimer. That's right. Already, no, we're not looking good there. Yeah Yeah, but Anything else you want to touch on terms of this? No, that's pretty much it. That's like all the news that's fit to cover
Starting point is 00:32:57 But we do have one other thing to tell our viewers doing not Chris Oh, I was gonna get into the in case you missed it real quick before we got there enough prior right but in case you missed it uh panthers making a couple moves uh place Jonathan Brooks running back on the uh pop list meaning he's out for the season um which is unfortunate kind of shortens their uh quarter or quarterback sure is there running back room a little bit, but that just means that Guys like Chuba Hubbard Are gonna show out Same thing with maybe Rico Dowdle Trevor ATN is gonna
Starting point is 00:33:38 Maybe do something She's a rookie right? Yeah On my blanket on that. Yeah. Yeah, that's yeah. No, they drafted. I pick. Yeah. I don't know why I blanked on that. Yeah, Georgia guy. They also just got released by the Panthers It's a shame about today today beyond clowning you first round pick for the Texans Sharing the same D line with JJ watt it I feel like that was one of those guys that should have had a fantastic career, but I feel like slightly underwhelming. Yeah, I didn't say that. Not his fault. I think he's dealt with some injury history as well, but Yeah, he didn't like he was good when he was healthy
Starting point is 00:34:46 But Didn't like he was good when he was healthy But Just just didn't shape out for him. Yeah clown. Yeah, a lot of it was just due to the injuries But yeah, even when he was on the field he was fine. Yeah I Got to see him in the same way of chase young. Yeah, I put them in the same category But uh looking at the field of Eagle side over in Philly, they reworked a deal for Dallas Goddard for this season. So. Have you looked at the deal at all? Goddard, no, I have not.
Starting point is 00:35:22 I haven't I haven't seen it. I'm going to do a quick search on it right now, but a a a a a a a a a a
Starting point is 00:35:40 a a a a deal so now he will be a free agent for 2027 potentially for next season but now he's making a he was making a four years 57 mil but they brought a lot of that money into for next season so or yeah pardon I'm looking at it wrong he'll be a free agent next season. So, or yeah, pardon, I'm looking at it wrong. He'll be a free agent next season. So, yeah, part of his rookie extension or it's still part of his rookie contract
Starting point is 00:36:14 that he got an extendo on. Yeah, yeah, I just, I mean, I'm happy for him, but there was something he was gonna get traded too, but I'm glad that he didn't. Yeah, yeah, I just I'm happy for him, but there was some he was gonna get traded too, but I'm glad it yeah I know and which is odd Cuz behind them there's not much else so Jaguars releasing Gabe Davis and He was oh 12.5 million dollars this season
Starting point is 00:36:43 Boy, what a fall off. Remember when he had four touchdowns in that playoff game against Yeah. Kansas city after one year, three year, $39 million contract out. Travis Hunter took his job. Yeah. I mean, if Gabe Davis wasn't. Didn't like completely fall off this season,
Starting point is 00:37:05 then I think we could be looking at a pretty solid. We could be looking at a pretty fun offense. Yeah, because Gabe Davis wasn't bad in Buffalo. He had, you know, the year that the the year that for touchdown playoff game. Ended up having 48 catches, 836 yards, seven touchdowns, The year that for touchdown playoff game. Ended up having 48 catches, 836 yards, seven touchdowns pretty average year. But this season in Buffalo or this season in Jacksonville,
Starting point is 00:37:34 he only played in 10 games, 20 catches, 239 yards and two touchdowns. Yeah, I know it's one that had been fantasy. They were not thrilled. Yeah, I want it's one that had him in fantasy they were Not thrilled yeah, I want to be either his last year in Buffalo 45 catches 746 yards Seven times that was the other things that Gave Davis like as good as he was in Buffalo. He was so so inconsistent so inconsistent Yeah, no, I mean that's true he definitely was like he was so So inconsistent. So inconsistent.
Starting point is 00:38:08 Yeah, no, I mean, that's true. He definitely was like, he would definitely have his moments. But even at the time we signed with Jacksonville, I thought that was like way too much money for who was basically going to be your wide receiver three. Cause you know, they drafted, wow, what's his name there? Brian Thomas Jr. And they already had Christian Kirk on the roster
Starting point is 00:38:25 So you were literally doing this for a wide receiver three. Well at the time wide receiver two because They trusted the vision but you know, yeah We don't we didn't know how Brian Thomas was gonna end up but yeah now now you're paying at that point Yeah at the end of the season you're paying a wide receiver 330 mil Yeah Now you're paying, at that point, yeah, at the end of the season, you're paying a wide receiver 330 mil. Yeah. But anything else you want? Or, yeah, let's get into the other thing. Summer episodes.
Starting point is 00:38:57 Summer episodes. So no more Friday episodes. Hurry here first. That we're hitting deep into the off season going to be extremely slow, so we're going to kick it to one episode per week Tuesdays at 730. And we got a lot or a lot of stuff
Starting point is 00:39:15 scheduled talk about each division as well as top players at each position. CJ, you want to take it away? I sure do. Alright everyone. Once again, just Tuesdays. Here we go. as top players at each position. CJ, you wanna take it away? I sure do. All right, everyone. Once again, just Tuesdays, here we go.
Starting point is 00:39:30 May 13th, as you know, we're doing our divisional breakdowns and our top five rankings in each position. So May 13th, safeties, your top five safeties and break it down the AFC East. On the 20th, top five linebackers and breaking down the AFC North. The 27th, the top five corners
Starting point is 00:39:55 and we're breaking down the AFC South. June 3rd, top five edrushers and breaking down the AFC West. Then on the 10th, we have the top five tight ends and we're breaking down the NFC East. On the 17th, top five running backs and we're breaking down the NFC North. Then on the 24th, we've got our wide receiver rankings,
Starting point is 00:40:22 top five from breaking down the FC South and then on July 1st, we've got our top five quarterback rankings and we're breaking down the NFC West Then on the 8th, we've we're gonna be ranking the teams in the NFL. I believe it's usually our top 10 We're gonna debate there 15th of July is our NFL honors prediction and On the 22nd, we're going to be talking about fantasy football those are the tight ends and running backs
Starting point is 00:40:57 Or Ben QB's sorry Adam made a mistake there and then on the 29th of July We've got fantasy running back and wide receiver rankings we're still gonna also have episodes on August 5th and August 12th and those are spelt from the air probably some preseason coverage those are kind of like our anything goes episodes but we'll see there will likely be a post coming out later, you know detailing everything Yeah, and obviously it's not gonna be just tell to that if there's other storylines. Yeah, I'm gonna fell talk about that Like you know, they're empty maybe again traded for still in on that Hmm. And how yeah been waiting on that maybe a Roger signing maybe big maybe yeah
Starting point is 00:41:41 Maybe a Roger signing been waiting for that since before the draft Roger signing maybe yeah, maybe a Roger signing but waiting for that since before the draft But yeah, that is all scheduled content that we have here today though. Thank you for tuning in To the last Friday episode of the offseason next Friday episode will be Training camp, right? Yeah, probably like during August. Well, no, it will be during August. So that's right episode for a bit. It's May Yeah, we'll see us of course listeners, but just once a week, I think our Friday episode would be one on like the
Starting point is 00:42:18 the 15th of the 22nd one too. Yeah. Yeah What once we get closer into to the into the season, that's basically it. New episode coming out on Tuesday at 7.30 PM. What are we talking about on Tuesday again? Safeties in the AFC East, Chris. Where were you? I don't have the list in front of me, dog. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:42:43 That makes sense. That makes sense. I'm not saying that is like Oh that makes sense. It's more of a yeah But yeah, by the way, I do think that the next Friday episode would be on the 22nd. All right There you have it next Friday episode on August 22nd Three months from now three months in a couple couple weeks Three months from now, three months and a couple weeks. But new episode coming out on Tuesday at 730 where we're going to be talking about the safeties, top safeties and the AFC East and should be a fun one.
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