The Fumblerooski Podcast - All In -Ep 431

Episode Date: March 6, 2026

On today’s episode, more tags, releases, and TRADES. DJ Moore dealt to the Bills for a 2nd and a 5th round pick, Trent McDuffie gets dealt to the Rams. Are the Rams all in until Stafford retires? Are the Bears actually THAT comfortable with their WR room without DJ? Alec Pierce testing free agency? Chris Costich and CJ Medeiros talk all this and more!

On today's episode of the Fumbleruski podcast, boy, a lot happened since Tuesday. A lot. Bears trade DJ Moore, the Chiefs trade, Trent McDuffie. The Pats are releasing Stefan Diggs. Cameron Jordan's coming back for a 16th season. Colts hitting Daniel Jones with the transitional tag. What does that mean for Alex Pierce? Boy, this is, it's going to be a fun episode to talk about all this.

This is the Fulmlerusky podcast. It may not have always showed it in the staff sheet, but you can see him making throws when he needs to make the throws. Back-to-back games where he has three touchdowns. Someone's got to get that six or seven spot. He's an elite wide receiver as a rookie. Truly a lose-lose scenario for both sides. Welcome to the Fulmleruski podcast by Power 88 Radio in Secret Weapon Consulting. We got CJ. We got myself, Chris.

Let's get after it. breaking news for today, recording this Thursday, March 5th at 3.30 Eastern Standard. The Bears trade DJ Moore to the bills. They also released Darnell Mooney, which is known. Darnell Mooney's on the Falcons, Chris. I keep thinking Darnell Mooney. For some reason, I was thinking he was on the bears. I don't know why.

I don't know why, man. That's silly. That's silly. My appellate. Great, great start to the show, guys. Great start to the show. Bear Street, DJ more to the Bills. So I think there's a couple different storylines you can conjure up with this, of course.

The Bills, well, they get a really good top target for Josh Allen, one that they've kind of been searching for since getting rid of Stefan Diggs, which only took them a couple of years to, finally figure it out. So if you're the bills, this is a huge get in return. It's a mid-round pick and another compensary, conditional. Is that the word I'm looking for?

Probably. I don't know. I don't know. Shit. Bro, you got to know this, man, coming in. We're just off to a terrible start, man. We're off to a terrible start. Oh, goodness.

gracious. Basically, the bills are sending a 2026 second to Chicago for DJ Moore and a fifth. Yeah. I think the fifth is the conditional. Yeah. Yeah. Conditional. So obviously, like I mentioned, this is huge.

Bill's getting a top guy. DJ Moore has shown up a lot to make some big plays, as you saw from this most recent playoff run for Chicago. On top of that, too, and I'm just going to read this straight off of Ian Rappaport's tweet. Two of DJ Moore's highest productive years with Carolina were 2020 and 2021 when Joe Brady was the offensive coordinator for said team. And Joe Brady, the head coach for the Buffalo Bills. So I'd say it's a pretty good matchup, pretty good match for DJ Moore and the Bills. and elevates their offense a little bit.

I'd say the one thing that I would probably be slightly hasty on is the Bill's tendency of getting wide receivers a hair too late, if that makes sense. Yeah, it definitely does. Moore is only 28. I checked this morning, so I think he'll be fine. The problem is, and you can't even read. really debate this. He, uh, he, uh, he kind of got Alphud out of the wide receiver one spot. He got his

job snatched by, uh, by Roma Dunzeh. And literally towards the end, he was fighting for reps with Luther Burden to be number two. And unfortunately, if you are a Bears fan, your best, your biggest memory of DJ Moore is probably him running a half-ass lackadaisical route in the middle of the field, leading to an awful Caleb Williams interception. So, yeah, if he can get whatever that was out of his system, then, yeah, then I'm sure he'll be fine in Buffalo. I haven't seen any word on how his contract's going to be split up because if Buffalo is eating that contract,

I mean, I know they're already slightly in the red before, but now it's going to be really bad. If Buffalo ends up having to eat their contract, they might have split it, they might have, it might be the bear's still paying it, I don't know. But the Bears getting a second for them, I still think is good. You know, obviously we're getting the first because it's essentially a glorified salary dump. So I think, at least.

So if that is the case, then getting a second is not too bad because, you know, salary dump, you always get low-balled. I would call this a pretty win-win trade for both teams. So if DJ Moore does return to a Widerstero 1 status with the bills, I know they'll be grateful because, look, Bill's Mafio wants to smear my head in blue cheese and put it on a spike for saying this. But come on, Bill's fans. Even your organization has learned, Khalil Shakir is not a number one. He's like a mid, I think he's a mid-tier number two, but he's not a number one.

Yeah. I think I'll agree. Like, he's just not. And the Keon-Colman experiment, honestly, I feel like he should. but I don't even know if he makes the team next year. Yeah, Jerry's still a little bit out on Kea on Col. So, yeah, so this makes sense, especially because, you know, we got the Bill's fans swearing up and down.

It was the lack of weapons that did them in. But we'll see. No excuses this year, Bill's. Come on, like, get over the hump. For real. No, for real. It really is. Looking at Spot Track right now, it looks like that the Bill's,

are eating up everything here. So they move down, like, where are they now? They are 31st. Oh, yeah. So here's the million dollar question, Chris. Do you still, do you, I don't know if you ever did, but assuming you did? Do you still think they go wide receiver in round one of the draft?

Do they double dip or no? No. I would imagine, no. I would have to say no. I wouldn't think. I would have to assume, depending on who ends up being your cap casualty come next week, or just the next few weeks in general, that's who you attack in the draft. Yeah.

I would have to assume. I feel like they're going to go DB round one, but that's just me. Yeah. 100%. Quarter specifically. Yeah. You mentioned the bears at the top of your take there. though, C.J. I think this

it is very telling that Chicago makes this move, right? Because I think prior to last season, Caleb Williams rookie year, DJ Moore, of course, was the wide receiver one, especially going into this year was the wide receiver one. And then you

touched on it. Like Roman Dunzei was starting to take a lot of targets and then towards the end of season, especially with injuries kind of piling up in the receiver room, Luther Burden started to step up a lot too. Burden was also hurt some well. But it's start, this is a real sign that the bears are confident in what they have in Rome and Luther Burden being the top two guys in that wide receiver room. Yeah. Yeah, definitely. Like I said,

Adunze essentially like, like I said, he snatched Moore's job out from under him. And I said, Moore was fighting with Burden for number two towards the end there. And Burden got more involved. I'm not like the biggest fan of his. But I definitely think they give another year of Caleb and he'll be fine. You know, maybe they develop in Chicago finally has a 4,000-yard passer for the first time in their existence. Very possible. But yeah, honestly, this makes sense. More was taking up a lot of cap space because the bears necessarily, I don't think they're swimming in money either.

So this I think makes sense for all. And you give DJ Moore a fresh start to be number one. The bills get a weapon. The Bears clear up cap space and they allow a dunes a and burden some room to grow. Yeah, I think they were like just barely in the red. Now they're at 17, 17 in the green, which is middle of the pack in terms of the league. Yeah. Anything else you want to touch on for DJ Moore?

No, not really. I mean, but for the Bears, though, their Pro Bowl Center of Drew Dalman retired. That's right. That's right. Early, early retirement, another one. Stanford guy too. Something about them Stanford guys that like to retire early. Wow.

Bro's coming at Andrew Luck directly. Wow. Yeah. But, I mean, it sucks for the bears, but like good for him as well, right? Like, if you can, you've made your bread, if you can get out at an early age. and he ended up proving he's one of the better centers in the league. If you can get out at somewhat of an early age with millions of dollars in your pocket,

by all means, man. Especially at the center position or just offensive linemen as well. Yeah, they take a beating. They take a beating and those lifespans are very, like, very short compared to a lot of the other positions. Yeah. So the Bears, they now have a whole center. But good on Drew Dalman for knowing those times to step away anyway. Oh, yeah.

The other big trade that happened this week, Trent McDuffie sent to the Los Angeles Rams. So we've kind of been seeing a little bit of this from Kansas City in terms of clearance of space. And, well, they got rid of Joanne Taylor, which helped a lot. and now this Tred McDuffey trade has got him up to, according to Spot Track, $22 million in the green. So now they can at least work with something a little bit here. But that's a things feel like they're slowly kind of falling apart for the Chiefs a little bit. At least, well, defensively, yeah. But what do you make of this, CJ?

Well, do you remember my original Chief's take when you're talking about the big cap crunch coming? Yeah. And I said they have a lot of good players that I named outright Rushie Rice and Trent McDuffie as young core pieces that are going to be off their rookie deal soon. And you're going to have to scrape together some money to pay them. And, well, they didn't. You know, it's funny. People look at the Chief's spending and all the players they have and say, it's proof that. cap doesn't exist.

And it's so funny, they've said this for so long. And yet, this is the second time in recent memory, the first being when they traded Tyreek Hill, was them proving that the cap does, in fact, exist. So yeah, McDuffie, you're going to have to pay him like a top ten corner, you know, because he is. And yeah, that's really all there is to it. They couldn't afford him. And you have to save some money where you can.

So they made a really difficult decision. to let them go. And that's going to be a problem, considering the fact almost everyone else on their defense is a free agent. So, like Brian Cook, I think Jalen Watson is too. So that's two of their other prominent D.Bs,

linebacker Leo Chanel, big run stuffing, tackle, Derek Nadi, among others. And that doesn't even count half their receiver room and both their running backs. So, yeah, this is a wee bit of a problem. But as for the Rams, tell me, to tell me I'm wrong here. This screams win now. This is the spitting dictionary definition of a win now move.

And look, I know Stafford's coming off an MVP campaign, but with a quarterback his age, you're literally taking it year by year. You're playing the rest of his time in L.A. solely by year. And, you know, they look good one year. Then all of a sudden, No. Most notably, Peyton Manning. Plays like his usual, Peyton Manning self in 2014. 2015 looks completely different. Fell entirely off a cliff and was dragged kicking and screaming to a Super Bowl, where they won despite him not because of him, right? And you don't, because look, the cliff happens a lot. Look at Aaron Rogers on the Jets.

Drew Breeze, one year, 2018, looking good, 2019. he's still fine, but then 2020, the team was just dragging his carcass around. Happened to Ben Rafflesberger as well. 2020, you know, they start 11 and 0, and then the next year he was dead. So the clip happens. I'm not saying it's going to happen to Stapper, but you're playing it year by year. And, you know, you just lost the NFC championship game. So now this is like, I don't want to put a,

date on anything, but I think that for the Rams, this Trent McDuffie trades signals the next season, it's now or never. Yeah, 100%. Rebuilds are off the table at this point for the Rams. And you can also say this is a huge help to their defense because you'd say that the defense was probably outside of special teams. Their defense was their biggest liability amongst a team because they're essentially just relying on their offense to put up 40 points a game and hope to win at that point.

On top of that, too, you mentioned McDuffie's going to be up for a new contract, and he's going to get a new contract very soon. According to Ian Rappaport, it's likely that he's going to be the new highest paid quarterback in the NFL at more than $30.1 million in new money. The Rams who acquired McDuffie and his $13.6 million salary in 26. We'll see it as an entirely new contract. Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah. And looking at the Rams right now, currently 29.3 in the green.

All right. Yeah. Cool. Anything else we want to touch on in terms of McDuffie? No, not really. All right, cool. We're going to take a quick break when we come back. We're going to get into a lot of releases, some tags, a couple of rumors going around.

This is a public podcast. It may not have always showed it in the staff sheet, but you can see him making throws when he needs to make the throws. Back-to-back games where he has three touchdowns. Someone's got to get that six or seven spot. He's an elite wide receiver as a rookie. Truly a lose-lose scenario for both sides. Welcome back to the Fumbaruski podcast. Let's get into some other NFL news from this week.

We'll start with this one, the Pats, informing Stefan Diggs, that he's going to be released next week at the start of the new league year. There's a couple different things, I guess, or a couple different talking points amongst this, you know. do you want to start with the do we want to start with the let's glaze Stefan Diggs real quick or do we want to start with

the somewhat negative critical part you can do both I don't care I have a message for New England the fans for whoever the organization mostly I just want a wide receiver one

I just want a wide receiver one. Why is it so hard for New England to obtain one? They keep swinging and they keep missing. Whether they're relegated to bridesmaid instead of bride and free agency, whether they get a one-year wonder like digs or cooks who's just out the door as soon as they came in, whether it's another draft bus. Like I don't understand it. why why can't they get a wide receiver one like why this is genuinely making me angry i know there's

that school thought of oh you don't need a wide receiver one like a true game breaker well i'd still want one because we haven't had one in forever and even jules god love them wasn't necessarily like a game breaker like a true like elite thread he was like a low tier one some people would call them to, but I would disagree. But I don't debate people I disagree with anymore because I just, I don't care. I sincerely don't care. And it just, it gets to a point where New England, you got to get one. You need a legitimate number one.

Please, somehow, please, like, I am begging you here. The entire region of New England, all six states that make it up, plus little two islands of Martha's Vineyard and Mantucket are begging you here. year, please obtain one. By hook or by crook, just you need one. Like, I'm so tired of this, man. Yeah. I guess that's our, the cue to start negative and critical, but that's, you're completely

right. Like, now you have to find a guy that an 85 catch, thousand yard receiver guy now. Like, I think Diggs has set the tone of like, this is what you're looking for. And maybe and then some. And then some preferably. Hmm? And then some preferably. Yeah, yeah. Very preferably and then some, right?

Like, you know, I made this, I made this case the last couple weeks, right? Like, you know, Diggs is a great receiver. He was a fantastic teammate. Everything on the field was. amazing was two expectations and even more, way above expectations, I would say, in terms of the leader that he was in the locker room on the sideline, what he was able to do for us on the field.

Now, I did say that he was a little, he was very inconsistent at times. He was a bit of a no show during the playoffs. But he had a lot of really crucial third and fourth down catches throughout this season. Off the field was, also as advertised. Off the field was also as very advertised.

And there's a reason why Elliot Wolf had the potential out for after this season. There's a reason. And well, it's unfortunate that Stefan Diggs gave the Patriots almost every reason to use that out, unfortunately. Now, outside of that, to spend the positive at the same time, you know, what Diggs ended up doing, though, for the Patriots is I think that he more than likely helps New England. But obviously, there's other factors to this as well. But he was a very big reason why New England now seems like a very formidable, free agency destination going into this offseason.

Now it actually feels somewhat real of, hey, we could actually potentially go out and get some guys, maybe. We got the money for it. Everyone saw how the Patriots were this year, almost America's darling for like 75% of the season. And then everyone was like, oh, yeah, it's the New England Patriots. Fuck them. Mike Rables is a fucking fantastic head coach.

I think New England, as a Pat fan, I am very grateful for the 18, 19 games that Stefan Diggs was able to play for us or play for the Patriots. And a big reason why this last season is going to be one of the more memorable ones, in my opinion, as a Pats fan or as a Boston sports fan. but at the end of the day like I said the off-the-field issues

were as advertised and you know I was able to look away a little bit like all like the tosy stuff the pink substance like that bullshit like before the season and like some things during I could look away from that once once this most recent incident with the private chef came up

that's when I was like yeah I think that might be the nail in the coffin right there. Sorry, my girlfriend's calling me right now. Let me decline that real quick. But, I don't know. You've heard what I said. Do you have

anything you want to respond to anything that I said? I can, as a fan, I can look away like you said from a lot. Like the pink substance thing, I remember I was on this podcast saying, like, Rabel, Wolf, I swear to God, if you cut him over

this when we need a number one. Like you don't just get to dangle a number one in front of us and then take it away. Like you can't do that. Like that. I can look away from a lot, but this whole thing with the chef, that's, that's disturbing. And I know like there's a sentiment, you know, like, oh, you could have good morals, but they don't win games. That's why you got to keep some head cases around.

Like, I get that for the most part, I agree. But when it gets into the break in the law thing, especially like what it's particularly heinous crimes. Like, for example, the recently released Tyreek Hill, you know, someone who's just an objectively bad person off the field, you got to wonder, hey, maybe they shouldn't be here. Yeah. Yeah. And like I said, not to diminish anything that he did on the field, fantastic teammate, fantastic leader. I mean, you can look at Christian Gonzalez's Instagram story post that he made and that tells you all you need to know.

Yeah, it wasn't just him. him, uh, booty, Drake, May, they're all going to miss them. Oh, yeah. 100%. 100%. All right.

Next on the docket, the Chargers releasing Will Disley and Mackay Beckton. And because of those releases, the Chargers now have the most cap space in the league at damn near 100 mil. Good God. Yeah. I can't wait for the Chargers to go all in. spend all their money, crush the draft, and then be another exit,

and then they'll blame something because it's never Justin Herbert's fault. But yeah, no, I mean, I get it. Will Dissly kind of make sense, especially at the emergence of Arande Gadsden? Bechtin, that was just disappointing. You know, I had a career renaissance in Philly, but couldn't replicate that. What is it with Philly in Lyman? I don't know. But, yeah, I mean, there's not a lot to report here.

They just make sense. Yeah, but now the expectation is, if you're the Chargers, you have to go in freaking make splashes now. You have to, you have to make a big splash. I mean, yeah, they have to, but will they? I mean, even if they do, will it translate to anything? I guess it depends on what you're looking for it at that point, too. Probably.

remember what New England did last year in a free agency? Yeah, I'm looking, if I'm a Chargers fan, I want them to replicate that. Fair enough. Fair enough. Anything else? Chargers related? No.

If, man, that's all I got. All right. Word. Vikings released Jonathan Allen. And Javon Hargrave. And Javon Hargrave. I mentioned Jonathan Allen because that was the only name. that I saw.

I don't know how I messed hard rave, but, um, so that will bring, uh, the Vikings cap space to still dead last, 44 mil. They,

they, they, they, they, they, they, still a bit of a word. Oh,

and they, and they're releasing, uh, Aaron Jones. Oh, yes, that's right. Yeah.

So, yeah, Vikings, you know, they're in a serious, they're, they're, they're deep in the depths of cap,

oh, and it's getting worse. apparently if T.J. Hawkinson doesn't agree to take a pay cut, keep in mind, not restructure his deal, but a full pay cut, he's going to get cut entirely. Now, that came out, I think, today. I mean, I feel like at that point you just cut him. Yeah. Like, I think if you, it's very, it gets worse. It gets worse.

apparently Adam Schaefter said that the Vikings are open to and might, I don't know, they might be shopping. A Jonathan Grenard, superstar edge rusher. They're open to, because, you know, they're so deep in cap hell. Do you have the word for it for the Vikings? You're saying, oh, we could get a first round pick for them. I say, no, you're not. You're not. I'm betting right now.

If I are betting men, I would say they're not getting a first round pick. Go to our friends at Calci and say they're not getting a first round pick. for him because it's a salary dumb. You don't get first rounders in salary dumps. It's very rare. Yeah. So let's say they cut Hawk. You free up 12 mil and dead cap for 21.

I mean, yeah, 21 mil and cap hit. Yeah, get rid of Grenard. Get that off the books. That's another 22. That, those two, it, those two, alone would get you out, would potentially get you out of the red. What do you mean potentially? Like, they would.

Like, would it not? Like, where are they right now? Like, where are they sitting right now? They're at 44 mill right now. Hargrave and Hawker at about 43. Just looking at the big number to the left, it's 43 or about 43, just south of 44. So it, and I'm going based off of. what you say, CJ, in terms of, you know, the thing about the cap is that you don't actually

have as much money as you think you do. You never do. Dude, because look, think of it like an actual salary that you get at your job, right? Some of it goes to taxes. That's like what I would consider resigning players. Some of it goes to like, you know, your bills, utilities and stuff, you know, the stuff that's kind of like taxes but not, you know, like groceries and whatnot. That's the draft.

And then the rest of it's your disposable, which is what you use in free agency. That's kind of my, you know, my analogy there. Yeah. So that, like I said, that's kind of what I'm basing it off of, right? Yeah. So I'm estimating that the Vikings are still going to like be barely in the red at that point. Yeah. And yeah, then you're going to even like I said with Hargrave and Jones and Hawkinson and Jonathan Allen, like that's bad.

And like I said, and they're going to have to, and they might trade Jonathan Grenard, which, ugh. I've never seen a team that, like, has so much good talent and fancy themselves Super Bowl contenders, you know, before we knew J.J. McCarthy was terrible. Just flame out so fast and have to start selling off pieces left and right. Oh, and also, they might try to move on from J.J. McCarthy. Yeah. I just want to say We're on the Vikings. There's literally a report from a guy we've had on the show.

You may have heard of him, Tony Pauline, who said that the Vikings are actively looking to move on from him. So, wow. They did all that and for what? Yeah. And this kind of goes on with some other storylines that we're going to touch on as well, which we may as well just go right into it. first one being Cardinals releasing Kyler Murray, which everyone knew that was going to happen.

It was just a matter of when. And Kyler Murray has been a name that has been kind of flown around of like, hey, Vikings could go out and get Kyleor Murray or say Mack Jones or any other quarterback. And I say Matt Jones, we're about to talk about Mac Jones in a second. Yeah. Murray, well, remember when you signed that contract and I say, said it was a bad idea. This is why.

And once again, I will reiterate my point from last episode that it is better to draft a bust and move on fast than be stuck with a mid-quarterback who won't take you anywhere. And you're just kind of tied to him. Also, there's a lot of talk apparently with Derek Carr ending up with the Vikings. He'll come out of, he'll unretired. I feel like, it's just funny. I feel like no one should be touching Derek Carr. to be honest.

Yeah. But it's just funny. It's just there's a lot of talk. Pause. See, I didn't say it because then because then you and the power of I said, I would have been, I would have been fine

if you said that. I'm just trying not to because you all bitched at me not to. I bet you did you for the time we made. No, no, no, no, no. There was copious amounts of bitchage going on there. And if you try to deny it, I know.

No, I'm sorry. All right, all right, right. Fair enough. Fair enough. But no, no, no. But I'll joke aside, Leah, Murray to the Vikings is probably ideal. I'm hearing the Jets might be sniffing around him,

but let's be real. Where would you rather go if you're a quarterback? I don't care if the Jets are giving me a billion a year. I'm not playing for that. Yeah, I'd rather be going to throw to Justin Jefferson and Jordan Addison and T.J. well, not anymore. Not anymore. Not TJ Hawkinson anymore, probably.

But having Kevin O'Connell is my coach. Fuck yeah. Do that in an heartbeat. Mention Mac Jones. Rumors swirling around that the 49ers' apparent asking price for Mac Jones is a first round pick. This is kind of what I was,

I think I've said this one of the last episodes. and Adam Schepter had said during the combine, he was on part of my take, and he was saying how there's a chance that the 49ers might like Mack Jones a little too much. And well, here's the rumor mill swirl around. This is how much they like them. Enough to that the asking price is a first round pick.

Now, we can have this debate all day long about if Mack Jones is a first round pick, but say you're the Vikings or say the Jets for that matter. or two. And you're like, well, we need a quarterback. How desperate are we? You can't be that desperate. I mean, Mac Jones looks good and he's shown that if you give him the proper system, like him reviving himself somewhat in San Francisco for his first year in New England under a Josh McDaniels offense, he's shown that he can be a productive, like, game manager, quarterback. And that's putting it nicely. He made some really good pros in his career. But a first rounder though,

like you said, I think they like him a little too much. Yeah. Which like, that's no problem. I mean, this is probably also at the same time, the Niners being like, hey, there's like very real chance we are not moving him at all. That's also probably what the Niners are saying at the same time. Because we've seen Brock Purdy have a slight injury history now. Yeah, slight.

That's a word, but yeah, he has. Well, what word would you use then in terms of purdy? Injury history, not slight. He has one. So like he stubs his toe every now and then. He's missing chunks of games. Yeah. Chunks of the season, I should say.

Yeah. He missed, well, he missed a big chunk of last year. How much time did he miss in 24? He got banged up in the playoffs, too. I think he missed, like, I don't remember off the top of my head, but still. But he can't say, I don't know, maybe he can, but he's, especially as of late, it's looking interesting. Yeah, very interesting.

All right. We're going to take a quick breather once we, when we come back. We'll get into a couple of these tags that happened this week, as well as a little bit of, I guess, positive news, along with a little bit of a little bit. the old maculate grid to end the show. Oh, yeah. This is the Pulburrowski podcast. It may not have always showed it in the stat sheet,

but you can see him making throws when he needs to make the throws. Back-to-back games where he has three touchdowns. Someone's got to get that six or seven spot. He's an elite wide receiver as a rookie. Truly a lose-lose scenario for both sides. All right. Let's get into some tags that happened this week. Breeze Hall, franchise tagged by the Jets.

This was one that we saw coming from a mile away. So there's that that's really all I got, to be honest. Abolish the tag. That's all. No, that's all I have. Just abolish the tag. And you know what? I was thinking it better, right?

I was watching people debated online. And one of them said, well, it helps the bad teams keep their stars. Like, yeah, against their will. you could theoretically take three years off their prime, like just out of spite. And what world is that fair? It's like, oh, but it's good for the bad teams. Like, well, if you're that bad, do you really deserve your stars? No, no, you don't.

But like, I could, like, I could make a case in the sense of like, hey, the Jets are rebuilding, right? Like, just, let's say, like, 28th year? I'm saying, let's just say generally, right? Let's just say, like, take a very general, because obviously the Jets are the fucking Jets, right? Let's just take an extremely general scope, right? Like, theoretically, you mentioned tag is great to keep your young stars, your good players in terms of a rebuild, right? Like the Jets, for example, are a rebuild for the millionth year. or say let's take another team, for example.

The Bengals, right? The Bengals at one point were in a rebuild. And they tagged some guys. They kept a couple guys around on not having to pay maybe as much money, maybe having to pay too much money, whatever. It's a way to keep guys and try to progress into something bigger. and well, Bruce Hall and

Garrett Wilson Gary Wilson wasn't tagged, but Bruce Hall being another young offensive weapon that they like to have it's going to be pivotal to part of this rebuild.

But no one's debating that. Yeah. But to the contrary is, of course, to your point. I mean, it just seems to browbeat them. You know,

like I said, like it's too powerful. they can just say, hey, we're going to tag you. And Penn as the Amtrap paper, you're stuck. I say it every year. And this is why. This is literally why I despise the franchise tag. And it's such egalitarian nonsense.

Like, that's the only way he describes it. Oh, it helps the bad teams keep their good players. Like, and if the good players want to leave, do we just say screw them? Like, I mean, that's really what it comes down to. And it's like, oh, Brees Hall wants to stay. It's like, yeah, well, that's Stockholm syndrome probably. And I know some players will end up going where the money is. But the fact that a lot of these players would bolt and willingly at least test the market,

if not for the tag, I think says a lot. Yeah, 100%. 100%. Other tag news, the Colts hit Daniel Jones with the transitional tag, not the franchise tag, the transitional tag. So here's the difference. The difference is that it's not the, Daniel Jones isn't making the,

he's making the average of the top 10 quarterback salaries with the transitional tag for this year. And it allows other teams to potentially match this offer, or this amount of money. And Daniel Jones can, potentially except set offer and go to a different team. The odd thing about it, of course, is that you have signed Daniel Jones to potentially play, maybe play for meaningless games of football in December.

Maybe three. That's being generous. Yeah. That's right. I just, and let's just say nobody signs them, right? right. No one takes him from the Colts. Which I doubt anyone would. Yeah. Then you're basically content with just keeping him around, eating up valuable cap space just to have him there for the good vibes because he was really good when Jonathan Taylor was really good.

Meanwhile, we literally saw that when Jonathan Taylor was stopped, the Colts offense turned back into a pumpkin. But that's neither here nor there. The thing is, and I want to be very clear about this, is he's probably not going to play. And there's like, oh, he might. This was an Achilles tank. This shit ends careers, let alone seasons. And like you said, maybe he comes back in like late December, but do the injury happen like over halfway through the year? And those late-

It happened in the first week of December. Yeah. So he just might not. You just might not play. And also he broke his fibula on his other leg, too. So he's got two bum legs. Yeah, exactly. Like we were talking about it at the group chat the other day,

and I was like, best case scenario, he's backed by Thanksgiving. Like, best case scenario. Other than that, like, like I said, like, who knows what's going to, like, and that's saying, that's also saying if Riley Leonard isn't able to do what Dale Jones did, which is literally not fuck up. Yeah. That's literally all he has to do. And they're going to start 8-0, 9-0,

just like they did last year, maybe slightly fall apart middle of the season, but ultimately make the playoffs, which they probably would have done if Daniel Jones doesn't, like both of his legs don't completely fail on him. Yeah. Yeah, you're right. You're right.

I mean, how far would have gone is anyone's guess. but honestly I'm still like, I don't know. I'm just not as bullish on them as everyone else. It's like, oh, the career renaissance is good again. Like, no, no, no. Maybe it would have been, but that Achilles tear, maybe I'm taking it more seriously than I should. But the fact that a lot of people are just glossing over that is insane.

Yeah. Yeah. I'm kind of going to trek on this Daniel Jones train, kind of like I trekked on the Sam Darnel train, you know, like give it like, you know, I'm going to play a whole year, see how he does throughout the second year, and then start to get that confidence again. But now with the Achilles tear, I'm going to have to wait until you're fucking three. Yeah.

And doing this now, you got Alec Pierce talking about how he's earned the right to go to, to test the free agency market now. It gets worse. Right tackle, Braden Smith is also a free agent. Yeah. Yep. He's a, I think he's one of the top, yeah, he's in terms of AV from last year, he's a top 10 free agent right now. Yeah. So for the Colts, like, really, you could have had peer, you could have had your deep threat home run hitting wide receiver. You could have had your starting right tackle, but you chose Daniel Jones. That's a bold, strategy cotton. Let's see if it works for them, as they say in dodge ball. And they're also, uh, four mill in the red.

Just barely in the red. You know, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Just. Yeah. Uh, I guess we'll consider this the, uh, positive news. Kim Jordan announces he will return for a 16th season.

And he's open to play outside of New Orleans. Huh. Yeah. I mean, hey, I would say future Hall of Famer, definitely. Yeah.

For Cam Jordan, he's got the numbers. But him potentially not being in the big easy, he's just weird to me. That's going to be very weird. That would be very weird. I mean, granted,

he's not the Cam Jordan of Yor, but still, you know, like, I still rather him all the Saints. he might have his, I don't know, what do they call it, a Celtic shack moment? For real. Well, is it really a Celtic shack moment, though?

Because Cameron Jordan has been dominant still. What did he have last year for numbers? I assume you're looking at it. No, I was trying to find the exact tweet that I saw that was announcing that he was coming back with me to find his stats, though. No, no, no, no, no. I'll do it. It's fine. I forgive you.

I'm messing around. But everything aside, Jordan's stats last season were as follows. He had, you know, if this wants to load. Here we go. Okay, no, no, not Celtic Shack. I lied. I'm sorry. I shouldn't have done that.

He had 47 total tackles and 10.5 sacks. So he's still looking solid. And he played all 17 games. And the only reason I said Celtic Shack. I know in the past three seasons, the two before the last, he had two sacks and four respectively. So he's sort of ish been slowing down. But hey, could be worse. Could be a lot worse.

You know what? I kind of feel like he's going to go ring chase, you know? And I'm not saying that as any kind of slander. I wouldn't. I'm just saying that don't be shocked if he goes. to like a contender. Yeah. All right.

Per Adam Shepter three hours ago, eight-time, a pro-bowl defensive end, Cameron Jordan, who has spent his 15-year career in New Orleans, had 10 and a half sacks last season, as we mentioned. We'll not have a new deal in place with New Orleans by next week,

and now will hit free agency for the first time in his NFL career. That's basically, yeah. So he's going to hit free agency, but there's a chance that he still stays in New Orleans, but we'll see what they end up having for a deal done on that one. But I guess the fun thing at that point is, where do you see him going at that point? You mentioned ring chasing. Well, Chargers are a playoff contender, and they have a shitload of cap space.

That could be someone that they could go after Seattle has 60 mil still, so they could probably go after Cam Jordan as well. Bengals now have 47, so they could probably make a splash on Cam Jordan up their defense a little bit again. But they've also been known to not want to pay people. So we'll see how that goes. Bengals aren't contenders. I'm sorry. They're just not.

No, they're not. I'm kind of just looking down the list of teams that have a lot of cap money and could be good. maybe. But do you have a team in mind that you think that Cameron Jordan could go to? No, actually, I don't. That's right. I know that it was stupid for me to say, but like, I was saying I wouldn't be shot if you went to a contender. Yeah.

I feel like he'd have to. Like, he's definitely at that point of his career where, because she doesn't have a ring. I would have thought Buffalo if they weren't in the red, but. Yeah. Yeah. I would probably think that would have thought that as well. All right. Anything else who want to touch on?

Not really. There's just been a lot of stuff going on, of course. But, you know, free agency is going to happen. We'll have even more stuff. So, yeah, that's fun. Yeah, I love it. I love it. It's time for some Immaculate Grid.

Immaculate Grid. Today we have a player that played for the Lions and the Panthers, the Panthers and the Rams, Panthers and the Titans, Lions and Eagles, Rams and Eagles, Titans and Eagles. I know someone that played for the Titans and Eagles, but we'll get to that in a second. Lions. I know a Ram and an Eagle.

Hold on. Lion that threw for 3,000, Ram the Threaton for 3,000, and a Titan that threw for 3,000. Titan and Eagle. Blaine Bishop. Oh, I was going to say, like, don't disrespect Plain Bishop. I thought you were going to say H.A. Brown.

I was like, don't disrespect. Blaine Bishop. 43%? Come on. Nice. Rammon and Eagle. Give me Chris Long. Hopefully that's not too obvious.

A lot of people forget. I don't know. I don't think it would be. I'd be shot if it was over five. Oh, five exactly. Right at five. Yeah. The other tiny eagle.

that I probably would have gone with to outside of AJ Brown is Vince Young. Yeah. Is that, I don't think it would be that obvious. A lot of people forget him. That he played for the Eagles, yeah. Yeah. Back up to Mike Vic. Panther.

Panther and a lion. Wow, those are two teams that you don't think of. They threw a hard ball at us today, guys. A little bit, a little bit. Well, go. le garret blunt for eagles lions you could i feel like it's a bit of uh you know do you remember i remember they had him for a second i think there was this running back the lions had back in the day who ended up stopping by a bit for the eagles or who was with the eagles and with the lions his name was

uh jokey bell i don't know if you remember oh yeah, Jaquine Bell. Joy Key, Jee, you know who I mean, J-O-I. I think it's J-O-I-Q. There he is. 0.2%. Good poll. Let's think of some passers here.

Okay. Did Nick Foles ever throw for over 3,000 with the Rams? Kind of forgot he was on the Rams. Yeah, you know, he was. Almost made him quit football. Then again, I would, too, if I had to play for Jeff Fisher, but noes. I feel like he had to have.

Did he play a full season? He played a few. Just let me like, I really got to think, I got to think this over. I really got to think this over. Because he was only on the Rams for one year before he got dumped

to Kansas City, you may remember. I don't think he did. I wouldn't risk it. No. Did Jake Locker throw 3,000 for the Titans. No way. There is no way in hell he did. Yeah, that's what I was thinking

too. Absolutely not. No, no, no way. Vince Young had to have hit 3,000, right? I don't know, man. He was rookie to the year, but that was more for his running ability. Yeah. Did,

huh. I don't know, man. The Titans, such a I mean, I guess the obvious ones would be Steve McNair, Marcus Marriota, and Ryan Tannahill. I was going to go Kerry Collins. I said we're the super obvious ones. Yeah. Do I go Carrie Collins? Did he though?

Yeah, but did he? Yeah. Yeah. But like, part of me kind of feel, but that was kind of, what Kerry Collins was there, that was kind of in that weird spot where like Vince Young was kind of. there too. I don't think Kerry Collins did.

He was largely a backup. Yeah. Okay. Thank you for talking me off a cliff there. Mark Bulger. Mark Bulger definitely or not

my thing. Who's the quarterback? I'm thinking. Yeah, I think I'm thinking of Mark Bolger for the Rams. The one that repeated Kurt Warner. Yeah. What about Norm

Van Brocklin? Oh. Oh, yes, yes. Oh, Normand, Brocklin. I feel like we have to try it. Or I thought he was, I thought he was on the Eagles. No, he was the Rams. He was on both, I think.

Should we do it? Should we send it? Let's try it. No. That one hurts. Because I know he played for the Rams, but oh my God, it was such a different era, though. Yeah.

I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Oh, my God. The football Ball knowledge gods are going to beat me with sticks. It's all right. Mark Boulder works. Yes.

John Kittner, did he throw 3,000 with the lines? You know what, try it. We got nothing left to lose, Loki. I feel like, yeah, 12. Oh, 6%. 6%.

All right, a Titan. I don't think Vince Young did. Do you just want to go Marcus Mariotto call today? Yeah, we already aren't. getting it within regulation. So, all right, seven percent. Seven. Okay, seven. That's good.

I would assume like most of that is Tanna Hill and or not even Tanaill. I'd say most of that is probably just, uh, uh, what's his face? Lenny Walker. Wait, what? Yeah. Oh, I thought you were to say most of it was just him throwing the ball to someone. And I was. Oh, no. Only him to Delaney Walker, man.

Daly Walker. What, what, what, no, I was say, I was going to say most of, of that percentage is probably going to Steve McNair. Oh, I'm sorry. I thought you meant like when Marietta got 3,000 yards. Oh, no, no. I mean, he probably was chucking around to Delaney Walker a lot. All right.

Now let's think of some pairs. A Panther who played for the Titans. Why would anyone do that? But why? Why would you do that? May I have to get a little obscure. Um, did Kurt Coleman ever play for the Titans? Because I know he was on, he was in Philly and then he was on the Panthers.

But I feel like there was another weird-ass team he was on. Oh, sorry? Kurt Coleman. For the Titans? No, he wasn't. Don't do it. I don't think. Because I remember he was on the Eagles.

forever in the panther. I'm not unless I'm sure. I'm not sure. Who have the Panthers even had? You know, you know. I don't know. Where did Jake Delon play after Carolina? I know he played for Cleveland.

Yeah. Or Musad Mohammed. What about him? I don't, I don't know. Panthers, Panthers. I'm trying to think Panthers and lions right now. You know that defensive tackle

Ashon Robinson? I think he played for Carolina. But where else? No. Oh, Detroit. Detroit. 2%. Nice. Nice. All right. Did Julius Peppers play anywhere other than Green Bay?

Chicago. I don't think he did. I would say outside Chicago now. Okay. I think I might have a poll. Yeah. Do you remember Ricky Prol? Oh, yes, yes, yes.

Panthers Rams. Yep, yep, that's Rick. Yeah, that's a hit right there. I already know that's hit. Ricky Proll. All right, nice. What was he five? Let's just keep guessing for Panthers Titans.

You think there's a stupidly obvious one staring us right in the face. Yeah. Oh, my God. Kerry Collins from earlier because we were debating whether or not he hit 3,000. There's one. Did he actually play for the Panthers? Yeah.

Yeah. He did. 41%? He was the most obvious one. Wow. I have brought dishonor to my family, Chris. That's crazy. Who would have thought Carrie Collins was the most obvious answer for Titans Panthers?

How about that? I'm just realizing the punter Johnny Hecker did too and now Matt. Yeah. I forgot about Johnny Hecker. But you know, only one obvious one I think is pretty good. I mean, considering it was an overtime guess, I'd say it's all right. This was a hard one, man. It's tough when they dredge up the teams no one cares about.

Yeah, I know. Well, it seems like It's all right that we didn't get this one Because that was 39%. The Norm Van Brockland one, I should have shut you down on that. I should have shut you down. He played for the Rams, Chris.

No, I know, I know, but I should have shut you down in the fact that, like, he played in the 50s. He has the record for most passing yards in a game. No, I understand that. You've got to understand where I'm coming from. I do. No, I 100, like, 549 passing yards is a large fucking number.

Nothing ever happens. Going all in on nothing. That's all I got for today. Maybe next time. God willing. Although next time's going to be free agency and that's going to be a nightmare. Yeah, it's going to be Monday. Hopefully we're going to have a lot to talk about on Monday. That's for sure.

Or Tuesday, I should say. Monday's when we're going to record. But it starts on the 9th, right on Monday? Yeah, noon. Legal tampering period. And then free agency actually starts Wednesday. But we'll have a lot of shit figured out by Monday and Tuesday, probably. Tony Pauline said something pro-Patriots.

Interesting. That's what Adam put in the chat. I wonder what that is. I'm sure it'll be fine. Yeah. I'm going to do a quick search. He just said that the Patriots. are very interested in Alec Pierce and are expected to make a strong push to sign him in free agency.

Yeah, no, that makes sense. That makes sense. The other thing I wanted to touch on with the bills signing DJ Moore, too, was, well, they were kind of, they were one of the teams that were in on potentially getting AJ Brown and Alec Pierce, one of the two. So they kind of figured it out. So now I would assume that they're out of the running for that. All right. It's all the scheduled content that we have for you today. Anything else they have in mind, CJ?

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