The Fumblerooski Podcast - Animal Abuse -Ep 217 The Fumblerooski Podcast

Episode Date: November 8, 2023

Why can’t the Dolphins beat competitive teams? Coaching to blame for Cowboys’ poor execution? Could the Bengals be the team to beat? Chris Costich and Adam Wright discuss these topics and more!

Good evening. You are listening to the Fumble Rooski podcast by Power 88 Dean Radio and Secret Weapon Consulting. I'm Chris Kostich alongside me, Adam Wright. A lot planned for you tonight. We have the Chiefs getting a win over the Dolphins in Germany. The Eagles squeaking out a win against the Cowboys. Also going to be talking about the Bengals getting a big win against the Bills on Sunday night football. And of course, our week nine top three, bottom three, as well as trivia.

And always lastly, the Fumble Rooski fan box. That's going to be here on the Fumble Rooski podcast. Here's Edelman broken up and the pass is no sign yet. Edelman comes down with a football and they're saying it's a catch. This is what's tonight's. Slippery. for the touchdown! This is the Fumble Rooski Podcast by Power 88 Dean Radio and Secret Weapon Consulting. Chris Kostic, Adam Wright. We start with the Chiefs with the win over the Dolphins

in Germany. Man, and the Dolphins just can't seem to get a win over a good team. The Dolphins haven't been a team with an over 500 winning percentage, just a winning record in general, in over 400 days. I said this on last week too. You just got to beat them up physically at this point because you can you can run all over the field you want but this Dolphins team just hasn't proven that they can

go toe-to-toe with a top five defense this year at all and it it definitely showed in that first half they went down what was it 21 nothing they're able to get something going in the second half but regardless i mean yeah the defense stepped up but tua only 190 yards didn't do that great passing wise tyreek was able to get going a little bit eight catches other than that it dolphins are extreme frauds right now i mean you kind of nailed you hit the nail right on the head you know this is this is a dolphins team that hasn't beaten a competitive team in over a year like well over a year and like if if it's been all season then it's like okay it's been all season. Then it's like, okay, it's a small sample size when it's over a year. Like you go into like way, like deep into last season as well. That's not a mistake. So you look at that. Um, I, I liked the way they started off the season and they are still six and three,

so they could turn it around, but like, ah, I, I had, I had my questions with this team. And that offensive line is still – I still have my issues with it. So you have to look at it and say, like, maybe a little bit fraudulent, just a little bit. Like 6-3 also isn't an accident, but this team – Yeah. Six and three also isn't an accident, but this team, yeah. I don't see how you could look at this Dolphins team and say they're contending teams. Record-wise, you would say they're inside that championship bubble.

When you give it the eye test, they just aren't. They may still win the division because the Bills behind them are struggling themselves, but they're not getting anywhere past the wildcard round. Probably not the divisional round. They're not making the AFC championship. I'll say that much. Yeah.

And like even the chiefs didn't even have that creative game running the ball. They got 93 yards on the ground. The homes at 185 through the air. Their leading receiver was Noah Gray. Shout out, Levinster. Three receptions, 34 yards. That was their leading receiver.

Not even Travis Kelsey. None of the actual receivers. I said this last week. Those receivers, so suspect. So, so suspect. And, yeah, they were able to make by last year, but this is one of those things where it's kind of with the Pats, where their situations seem dire with Brady and whatnot, and then all of a sudden they end up in the Super Bowl somehow. And it seems like it'll probably end up being the same way with the Chiefs.

They'll probably end up making their way into the Super Bowl somehow with Patrick Mahomes because that's just how they are. But, you know, the Dolphins, their three losses against the Bills where they got absolutely clapped, the Eagles where they also lost by at least two scores. The Chiefs game was the only close game that they've had against a team with a winning record. And looking at the schedule in front of them, they'll have the Raiders who have a losing record next week or not next week because they have the bye this week. But then they had the Jets on Thanksgiving who have a winning record.

Commanders losing record so if we were to go by if we were to go by a schedule we'll go raiders one and oh jets one and one and one maybe commanders two and one titans three and one jets did i say yeah i said uh jets loss already so I'll give them one-on-one on the season series. So that's what, four-on-one now? Cowboys, four-on-two. Ravens, four-on-three. Bills, if it's anything like it was at the beginning of the season, they'll end up being four-on-four for the rest of the way.

Can I give you another narrative to this Dolphins team as to why they are struggling so much? So I mentioned the offensive line at the beginning of the way can i give you another narrative to this dolphins team as to why they are struggling so much so i mentioned the offensive line in the beginning of the year and the offensive line has been a mess like it's one of the it's one of their one of their weaknesses on this team three sacks on sunday too that's that's what i'm getting to they have been sacked three times or more three times this season guess which ones guess guess what did they win those games then let me ask you no did they win or no yes no wait they did three games they were sacked three times or more they lost when they when the offensive line holds up then

they win the games wow but when tumor doesn't have his time to throw then there win the games. Wow. But when Tua doesn't have his time to throw, then there's the issue. And it goes back to what I also say about Mac Jones, Kenny Pickett, Dak Prescott, Kirk Cousins, Brock Purdy, all quarterbacks who need everything to be perfect in order to succeed. We might have to add Tua to that list.

When Joe Burrow had a couple of years ago, last year as well, had one of the worst offensive lines in all of football, he was still able to make it to the Super Bowl. Josh Allen, to this day, still does not have a reliable running game. Still makes it 11 to 12 wins every single year. Patrick Mahomes has one of the worst receiving cores in all of football right now. They're in the Super Bowl bubble right now. You look at Tua, this offensive line,

when it doesn't do well, he doesn't play well. So what does that tell you about this Dolphins team? So the offensive line is a problem. No, it definitely is, and it makes you wonder if they you know one of their biggest things is quick rpo plays so maybe they just try to keep it simple again and just have that be their main passing attack and try to open up those deep shots so then the defense isn't as aggressive to try to get to the quarterback you know because that was the other thing we were talking about last week was the

disappearance of the vertical offenses. So now you got to think of a way to get that back again, because that's one of, that's one of the big things for the dolphins is that they have speed where they can get those deep shots and the defenses aren't allowing that. And on top of that too they're exposing the old line enough where they're going to get to the quarterback at a pretty quick quick amount of time in general so maybe you do go back to those quick rpo slants and whatnot just to try

to free up those deep shots and get the defense to back off a little bit. Well, yeah, I mean, they have to find some way in order to, in order to get the ball out. I mean, that like, that's, that's part of, that's part of, that's all that part is on McDaniel making these adjustments in order to combat the fact that their, their offensive line is not very good. Right. So instead of trying to give to a, so much time in order to get Tyreek Hill and Jalen Waddell down the field, maybe you go a little more dink and dunk.

It's not a sexy way of playing football, but it's the way that's working. And we did also talk about this last week, how high-flying vertical offenses are down. The Dolphins are one of the exceptions to that. And is it a coincidence that when those teams run into good front sevens that they lose, especially with the offensive line they had? If the Lions or the Chiefs were to try and go vertical, they would succeed because they have a good offensive line. The Dolphins don't have that.

And even when they do have Teron Armstead in the lineup, they're still, they're still very suspect on that offensive line. So, you know, they have, it's adapt or die. And it doesn't, they, they are so stubborn with the way they are playing right now. It's like, well, we're six and three. we'll just keep doing what we're doing just huck it down the field when you want when you run into a bad into a good team then good luck buddy good luck there yeah that's all i have about that and next week even i even with me saying the raiders is probably gonna end up being a win very much well you could have max crosby in your backfield sacking to a three to four times next week too.

Let's not forget about that. That's a totally different Raiders team that we're about to be talking about right now with Antonio Pierce is their head coach. There's a new energy over there. Grant. It was a little cringy that they were celebrating with the cigars in the locker room after beating giants. But when you actually look at the broader now, yeah. When But when you actually look at the broader picture, though,

they're celebrating the fact that they're not dealing with Josh McDaniels. A whole new energy in that locker room right now. So that could very much – Dolphins could very much go 3-5 the next eight weeks, their next eight games. 3-5, yeah. I mean, the Jets are a good front seven. three and five the next eight weeks their next eight games three and five yeah i mean the jets are the jets are a good front seven uh the commanders well they did have a good front seven uh titans yeah they could i mean like you just don't know which dolphins team you're gonna get based on the the competitiveness of the team that

you're facing. So, um, but if the offensive line can hold, if it can hold up, then this team will be very good. But you also like, I don't, I don't have a lot of confidence in that. So if you have a good enough offense where you can play a little more in the flats, do some intermediate routes with your receivers, then you can still win some games. But the fact that they haven't done that is a bit of a problem. You can see it on the field. You can see where Tua is trying to find Tyreek Hill and Jalen Waddle deep, and gets he gets brought down or he gets rushed into a pass that he didn't want to throw so is there a coincidence i think not i don't think so either no and that goes to what i said you know maybe just keep it simple again and just go back to those rpos that were working for

you before like that's that's what they were killing with teams at the beginning of the season and especially last year too and it it worked them, especially with the rushing attack that they have now. I mean, you've got a lot of teams that are going to be worrying about Raheem Oster and the game plan. There's so many weapons to choose from. You need to capitalize on defense is not accounting for everyone at once. But, yeah. defense is not accounting for everyone at once, you know, but yeah, moving on Eagles squeaking out a win over the Cowboys.

America's game of the week on Fox 28 to 23 was the final score. Jalen hurts 17 for 23, 207 yards, two touchdowns. He got sacked three times. DeAndre Swift, 18 carries, 43 yards. 109 yards on the ground in total for the Eagles. Big story here, though. Cowboys. Dak Prescott. I thought this was a very good game for Dak Prescott.

374 yards, three touchdowns, no interceptions. I think the biggest problem here is that the O-line sold on him. Very good game for Dak Prescott. 374 yards, three touchdowns, no interceptions. I think the biggest problem here is that the O-line sold on him. Five sacks allowed. Five sacks, including two of them on the last two drives of the game. Or maybe that was the last drive. I forget. But even then, the last drive of the game, the Eagles were basically handing them the win.

The Eagles were handing them the win. You got a P.I. on the first play, roughing the drive of the game, the Eagles were basically handing them the win. Eagles were handing them the win. You got a P.I. on the first play, roughing the passer on the second play. Third play was like just a blatant offsides penalty. I don't know what the hell you're doing there. The Eagles were hand-wrapping a gifted win to them, and the O-line just couldn't do anything about it yeah and we can talk about the offensive line all we want but i mean my takeaway is like the execution that this cowboys team shows in big games real i mean like how this isn't rocket

science as to why this cowboys team has been so bad for so long in big moments. I mean, their coaching has been terrible. Jason Garrett and Mike McCarthy? You are the Dallas Cowboys, and that's the best you can do. They draft some incredible talent over the past few years. They watched their college football down there but like you got to make sure that you're also getting the coaching down because it's not all like in in the nfl it's not all about the talent you can have all the talent in the world and still

fall short because your coaching is bad it's not like like the NBA where you can just have a clown and Tyronn Lue and then LeBron James and Kyrie Irving carry you to the championship. That doesn't work that way, right? Dak Prescott and CeeDee Lamb are not going to do that for you. You need good execution from your coaching. And if you're not doing that then find a new guy there's another guy in new england who is probably is about to let to be let go you might want to be interested in so just saying geez we might might as well take a first rounder from the cowboys instead of the titans geez uh we'll see but or instead of the commanders it's a but like i'm just it's a coaching thing yeah yes you have your bad losses but that's the only what that's the only way you could look at this for why this cowboys team is so bad at executing against teams that you're you're right

there with talent wise have they have they even won a playoff game recently? Yeah, they won one a couple of years ago. It was 2020 or 2019. One of those two years. They've won three. Well, we know that they've won three playoff games in the last 25 years. Yeah. But it's an execution thing they've had talent

during that span of time they're very good with evaluating players in the draft they get superstar after superstar every year but you fall short because you don't have the good leadership in the coaching staff mike mccarthy isn't going to do it for you. No, he's not. And even the end of his Packers tenure, it was kind of, it was very iffy for him too. Like he basically kind of got run out of town in Green Bay because he wasn't doing it for them anymore.

And now he comes to the Cowboys. He's still giving them winning seasons. But when you get to the nitty-gritty of things and you actually need a win he's not there to get you the win and that's the problem and it's just you just gotta it's a repeating broken record at this point and i'll say i said it before i'll say it again they're gonna lose to the 49ers in san Fran. I showed you that post, right? Yeah, yeah. They're projected to face them again if the regular season ended today.

Wasn't that last week? It was this week, yeah. Oh, it was this week? I sent it this week. Oh, oh, oh. Maybe it might have been a thing last week too, but it looks like it's just destined to happen. The Cowboys run into the

49ers and that happens yeah i i couldn't remember sometimes kind of just getting all squished together at the moment if it happens again if it if they face each other again and lose it's just life is just a projection at this point oh yeah moving on bangles beating the bills on Sunday night football. Bengals are back. Told you guys. It's just a one-off thing. You know, Bengals were going to be back around this time.

And here they are. Joe burrow, 348 yards, two touchdowns, T Higgins, eight catches, 110 yards. It was kind of an off day for Jamar,

but Jamar's got a little little back thing going at the moment. And it's actually going to be even questionable if he plays next week. I did not know that, actually. Really? That's what the report's going on is that they're going to be taking it. As of yesterday, at least, they said that his back was sore. So they're going to take it one day at a time so i i wouldn't rule out jamar just yet in general i think he's still going to play but that's definitely still going to be something to watch out for oh you said jamar chase oh you

thought i was talking about t higgins i thought you were talking about lamar jackson for a second what it was like lamar wait, I did know that about. And they said there was some soreness, right? So that's. Yeah, yeah. Okay. Yeah. They are facing the Texans.

Yeah. But that's not to say that the Texans are going to be a let up, you know? Oh, they will not in the slightest. CJ Stroud's a stud. Yeah. Do you want me to start? Do you want me to start talking? I was going to finish off my thing really quick. Yeah, finish your thing.

Or actually, you can go. I cut you off. You go. No, we can talk about the Bengals first, and then we can go to the Burrows on this. Yeah, well, I mean, for the record, I never doubted it. I never doubted they would figure things out. I was a little worried about Joe Burrow's calf, and I honestly do believe that they would not have a slow start this year if Burrow did not injure his calf.

That was the reason why they were so bad for so long this season so far. Now they look like their normal selves so if if this whole team stays healthy which is a big if because it's the nfl if this team stays healthy for the most part i like they can beat anybody i don't i don't i think they're better than the ravens i think they're better than the chiefs. I always held out hope for this team this year, and I'm just glad that they're pulling through. As for this upcoming matchup with the Texans, you could look at it as a potential trap game,

but I do believe that they should win. You know, the, the Texans are the team of tomorrow. The Bengals are the team of today. This is the Bengals year to win it. CJ Stroud's year. He it's,

it's coming soon, but you're not winning. You're not going to get by that long with tank Dell, Noah Brown, and Nico Collins is your top receivers. Now, like it's great what he's doing with them, and it shows that he's the guy, but it's not sustainable.

There's a reason why quarterbacks do need at least something in order to contend. But they can still develop. They can still develop. I'll save it for later, actually. Yeah, you can save that for later. But what are your takeaways? Basically the same thing that you said really it's the same thing we've seen the last two years bangles go off to a slow start now they're picking it up again and they're gonna

find themselves in the divisional round and most likely probably the championship round the they might be it's probably gonna end up being bangals Chiefs again, for all we know, which I think is a pretty safe bet to make. Going off of what you're saying about the schedule coming up too, you got Texans who they should beat, the Ravens who, that's a toss-up right there, to be honest. But I think that they could definitely beat the Ravens. Like I said, flip a coin and take a pick.

Steelers should beat the Steelers. Jaguars, that's another game that they should definitely win. But maybe you even flip a coin on that. Colts, they should win that. Vikings, they should win that. Steelers, maybe they split with the Steelers. Chiefs, flip a coin. Browns, they should win that.

The schedule in front of them for the rest of the way is definitely a little bit more on the difficult side, but it's all very, very doable. Yeah, it's certainly, it's like that. It's tough to, it's tough to tell with who we believe that the Bengals will lose to

and who they'll beat because I do believe that the Bengals, with their head screwed on straight, which I believe they are in the second half of this season, I just don't – like, they can beat anybody. But there's also divisional games can be tough for them. Yeah, and currently all AFC North teams are projected to make the playoffs at the moment. Right now, but we'll see how long that lasts. So against this Ravens team, I am a little nervous about them

because the Ravens have been blowing out championship contending teams left and right so far this year. And they're 7-2. The injury bug has not hit them like we thought it would no and they're still winning games um the jaguars the jaguars are a good team and their time is very it's very close they're not there yet they're too young and i think the bengals the bengals are a better team than them i have. I have them making it to the AFC championship game, but there's a reason why I have them losing to the Bengals in that game. As for the rest of the way, I think they should beat the chiefs, right?

I think they should beat the chiefs. Yeah. I mean, we were just, we just got done talking about how the chiefs receivers are all suspect and all that. I feel like that you should be able to, or at least lock them up a little bit and make Noah Gray their leading receiver again. If the Dolphins were able to do it, who's to say that the Bengals can't do it?

As for the Chiefs, for the Chiefs' championship hopes, I'm going to put this in a way that's going to make every chiefs fan uncomfortable your entire championship window is hanging is hanging on uh the health of a 34 year old tight end yeah basically i that's pretty good way to say it honestly geez because you saw how they were without him we saw how how they were without him and i get it mahomes can do more with less which is why they'll probably make the playoffs but are they winning a championship if travis kelsey tomorrow gets an injury and is out for the rest of the year. No,

no, they're not doing that. They're not even making the AFC championship. So I just, I think the Bengals are better equipped barring any serious injuries. Another knock on wood. Let's hope that calf stays, stays fine.

I just, I just don't see like the Bengal.al i think they could lose two games tops here which means right now they are five and three the rest so if they lose two games the rest of the way that makes them 12 and five and they could be division championships division champions i don't know. They should. I think they're better than the Ravens. Oh, yeah.

So we'll see. Moving on to the Bill side of things. Josh Allen with another turnover. I'm just going to say it very bluntly. The Bills are overrated. Overrated. They'll make the playoffs. They'll make the playoffs. They'll make the playoffs.

But that Super Bowl window, forget about it. I don't think they're winning the division either. I think the Dolphins have won too many games, and they're probably going to win too many games for them to keep pace. And even if they do win the division, it's going to be by their freaking nose hair. Yeah. And even then, they're probably, they're five and four right now.

Sure. And they'll probably end up being the Pats the next time around. They got the Broncos on Monday night. They'll probably beat the Broncos. That'll probably end up being a really tough game, actually. The Jets. Lord knows if they'll even beat the Jets

this time around. The Eagles. I don't think they'll beat the Eagles. The Chiefs. Maybe. They restacked their secondary. So maybe they beat the Chiefs. Cowboys? If they get the Cowboys on a bad day, then sure. Chargers? They'll beat the Chargers

because Brandon Staley sucks. Patriots? They'll probably end up being the Patriots this time around. Dolphins? They'll be the Chargers because Brandon Staley sucks. Patriots? They'll probably end up being the Patriots this time around. Dolphins? They'll probably handle the Dolphins again. Maybe. Sure. Sure. But in the grand scheme of things, if they were to go up against

the Ravens tomorrow, then I... If tomorrow is the AFC Divisional Playoff round and Buffalo had to travel to Baltimore, Ravens are taking that one. Yeah. Ravens are taking it all day.

Even if Baltimore is traveling to Buffalo, the Ravens are taking it all day, all day. The, the bills are not going to make a playoff run. Their Superbowl window is closing. If not closed already. Yeah.

They're like, I I can't talk today. I am surprised with how this Bills team has been this year. I thought they are a slam dunk to win 11 to 12 games. They may not do that right now. They may be a, they may be a 10 win team, maybe nine, maybe even a nine. Yeah. But like they'll, the only sure thing that I see is that they'll make the playoffs, but besides that, I mean, they've had some real, some real trouble and we're seeing how much that defense was really picking up the slack for Josh Allen's turnovers. And the offensive line has not really been that good this year.

So this whole combination is just really bad for Josh Allen. Because yeah, he throws a million touchdowns, but he also turns the ball over a lot and it hurts the team yeah i do like how they got the rookie tight end dalton kinkade going had 10 catches so that that's probably your only real bright spot stephon diggs had six catches and a touchdown. Keep him happy a little bit. But, you know, it just seems like, even seems like it's a little toxic a little bit in the locker room from Stefan Diggs, to be honest. Yeah. He's like, you know, you got wide receiver divas,

and, like, he's definitely, he's a diva. And, you know, we've seen it not matter a lot for most teams but like this is you know the stefan digs more than a few times has freaked out now because he's not getting the football and i think that started i started to kind of get into the team a little bit. Yeah, and the fact that they're not winning games is doing it as well. If he's not getting the ball and they're winning, then I'm sure he would get over it, and I'm sure that's been the case the past few years with the Bills. Right now, they're only 4-3.

What's their next matchup. They're, uh, they're five and four. What's their, what's their next matchup. Broncos on five, five and four.

Yeah. So the Broncos, okay. They'll win. They'll win that game. So they might say about 500. I don't know. Cause the Broncos defense has kind of stepped up a little bit now a little

bit, but come on. I get, I get it. I get it, but it's, it is is the broncos i think that that'll be a get right game and if it's not a get right game it'll be a giants bills game where they barely win and it'll be a one score game 14-7 yeah that'll be fine but i was only asking because if they fall to 500 then it it'll be, then things will really hit the fan. Yeah. It's really going to hit the fan at that point.

And you thought maybe stuff would change around too because Sean McDermott's calling all the plays now on the offensive side, and nothing's changed. Nothing's changed. I mean, yeah, sure, you're getting something going with Josh Allen throwing for 258, but running game, still not there. What, you're going to rely on just giving the ball to James Cook six times and having Josh Allen carry it eight times?

Like, yeah, you can rely on Josh Allen to be part of your running game, but that was part of the whole point of the beginning of the year was to kind of not kill him. You know it. And right now he's dealing. Josh Allen's also dealing with a shoulder injury too. Yeah. Lord knows how that's going to affect him.

Right. Yeah, it makes sense. But we'll take a quick break. We come back. We'll have top three, bottom three, as well as trivia. You're listening to the Fumble Rooski Podcast. Here's Edelman broken up in the pass. He has no sign yet.

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Sammy Watkins for the touchdown! Welcome back to the Fumble Rooski Podcast by Power 88 Dean Radio and Secret Weapon Consulting. Chris Kostich, Adam Wright. We move on to our Week 9 Top 3, Bottom 3. Starting with the Top 3. Chiefs. I know we were just crapping on them for the receiving core, but you know, if you can get a win on a team that's a Super Bowl contender,

then I'll give you that right. I'll give you that spot. I'll give you that spot in the top three. Vikings. Wow. Didn't see that one coming. Josh Dobbs having to go in. What was he? He got traded there on Tuesday.

The O-line barely even knew his cadence. Jeez. That was gutsy. Worked out? the old line barely even knew his cadence. Jeez. That was, that was gutsy. What? I said it worked out.

Yeah. It worked out. I mean, dude, dude's a part-time astronaut. That's a fun way to look at it. I think he's learning that playbook from Tuesday to Sunday. And that's gotta be the way. I mean, that got to be the way it's working right now.

Yeah. Josh Dobbs was very impressive, and that's probably going to be your feel-good story for the weekend. The Bengals, they're back. That's the simplest way I can put it. They're back, yeah. Honorable mention. Texans and the Eagles.

We'll start with the Texans. This is kind of what we were starting to talk about earlier when we were talking about the Bengals game. C.J. Stroud is that guy. He is that guy. The guy for the Texans. 470 yards, five touchdowns. Dalton Schultz had a great game. Noah Brown had a great game.

There was another one, too. I can't think of his. I can't think of it. It wasn't Tank Dell. Hold on. Let me find it. Let me find it. And on top of that, too, didn't the Bucs score with like 40 seconds left?

Yes, Bucs scored with 46 seconds left. And they scored with 12 seconds left. The Texans scored with 12 seconds left. I think it was like six, wasn't it? Six seconds, whatever it was. They made it back into the end. They went right back down the field and said, take this. Yeah.

Yeah, Noah Brown, a great game. Dalton Schultz, a great game. Six catches, 153 yards for Brown. Dalton Schultz, 10 catches, 130 yards. Tank Dell, six catches, 114 yards. A lot of great young weapons. Dalton Schultz isn't a young weapon. He's definitely a good veteran, like, tight end presence for C.J. Stroud to have.

But the young weapons on this Texans team, if they can keep this core together and try to formulate the contracts in some way and keep this core receiving group and C.J. Stroud and everyone else together on top of Damian Pierce. Granny's out right now, but if you're able to keep this young core, get them to develop and situate the contracts the right way, Texans are going to be a problem. Sure. Eagles. Honestly, I don't even know why the Eagles are still even on here because I just got done saying how they were basically gift wrapping the Cowboys a win at the end there but at the end of the day they got a defensive stop they beat an NFC's rival still atop of the NFC so I'll give them

the honorable mention yeah my first thought on the list is I would definitely, I think the Texans should be on the list, on the actual top three list. Yeah. And you can make a case for the Chiefs and Vikings to come off. But I would say the Chiefs because, like, yes, they beat a contending team, but that 6-3 Dolphins team, it's such a paper 6-3 right now. Anytime they run into anyone good in the last year and a half they've lost so i would honestly i would i would put the texans in over the chiefs i can see that's the real deal yeah no i can definitely agree with that

anything else you want to add that's about it i guess i guess you could say the vikings could come off, but it was with a third-string quarterback in Josh Dobbs who just joined the team like two days ago. Yeah. And it was against the Falcons who are having issues themselves. So, yeah. Yeah, I think this is a good list.

But the other thing, too, with the Vikings, with this win, they're still in the playoff picture now. They've kept themselves in the playoff picture somehow when we basically just wrote them off right after Kirk got injured. Mathematically, they are. Sure, but, you know, maybe we see Josh Dobbs doing something for the Vikings down the road. Maybe he keeps them in a contending spot.

Maybe. Maybe a lot of things could happen. Maybe. And Jettis is about to come back. Granted, they just lost K.J. Osborne to a possible concussion, but they're going to get Jettis back. They still got Jordan Addison. If he can get them the ball

in a very timely manner, you know what I say about what I like most about quarterbacks. If they can get it to their skill guys in a timely manner and efficiently, if they can do that, maybe they're fine. Yeah.

Cam Akers is gone, too. Yeah, I just thought of that, too. I'm just not holding out hope for the vikings um i'll just i'll just be candid with you here um i just like they just don't have they don't they don't they don't have enough of the quarterback position yes they have so many skill positions around them but when you don't have it at the quarterback position it's, they have so many skill positions around them, but when you don't have it at the quarterback position, it's a quarterback driven league. If you don't have the quarterback, then you're not winning. You're not going to the playoffs. Most likely you're certainly not winning a Superbowl. So punt on this season for the Vikings. I know the Vikings are still

going to continue to fight, but as fans sitting here or sports analysts, we're still going to continue to fight but as fans sitting here or sports analysts we're still gonna i i wrote them off i don't know though because i mean yeah the like i said you never know just because it's yeah it's a quarterback driven league and you know a huge problem with the vikings too is their lack of a run game they were were relying heavily on Kirk throughout the entire season to the point where the Vikings had zero rushing touchdowns up to last week. And their one rushing touchdown came from their quarterback, Josh Dobbs. OK, and if they make the playoffs and I'll admit'll admit i'm wrong but i'm i'm still very very iffy on the vikings right yeah i i'm saying i'll most likely be wrong but you never know they could get that a seven spot for all we know i never know i i don't know i barely know i i don't

know none of us know we don't have a crystal ball it's about to be week 10 come on yeah so we don't know but they're i don't think they're going anywhere unfortunately it would be a nice story but they won't it would be a nice story bottom three bills said this before i'll say it again they are overrated overrated as all hell. Keep it short with that. Good. Jets. Jeez. You let the Chargers beat you 27-6,

and then you have reports coming out about the Jets' energy in the locker room. You know, it's Zach Wilson went back to playing like Zach Wilson. You know, a top three pick that's playing like a third stringer. And once again, the Jets team is all discombobulated now. They are not happy with the performance, especially on offense. Yep. Seahawks. You know, I was a big Geno Smith guy, to say the least. But I'm starting to slowly get off the Geno Smith train.

I mean, granted, yeah, the Ravens are a really good defense. Lamar Jackson has only lost once to an NFC team. And even Lamar didn't even have an amazing – he had no touchdowns, actually. He went 21 for 26, 187 yards. But Geno Smith, 13 for 28, 157 yards, an interception, no touchdowns, got sacked four times. Kenneth Walker couldn't even get going. Nine carries, 16 yards.

You know, Seahawks – I still think the Seahawks could be a wildcard team, but, man, it's – you can't, you're not going to be making the playoffs when you have two games that are just like that. That's what, their second time getting blown out like that this year? I think so, yeah. Yeah. Let me look real quick. Hang on, I'm looking at it.

Yeah, they got blown out by the Rams week one, 30-13. That was the Puka game. Anyways. Honorable mention, the Panthers and the Dolphins. We've said enough about the Dolphins already. Until they can be a team with a winning record, they're going to be frauds. The Panthers, man, that's probably one of the most dire situations you can think of right now for the Panthers because Bryce Young isn't living up to what he should be.

Your rookie quarterback sucks right now. It's about as simple as it can get with that. I know their offensive line hasn't done them any favors. They lost DJ Shark for who knows how long. I don't know off the top of my head. But Adam Thielen has been good. That's about the only bright spot. That is the only bright spot. Adam Thielen.

Because they just force feed him the ball. They get him like 10 to 15 targets a game. If you're a fantasy football Adam Thielen owner, keep Adam Thielen in that starting lineup because he's going to see targets up the wazoo. If you're a fantasy guy, then you go for Adam Thielen. Yeah, but Bryce Young has as many multiple touchdown games as games with multiple pick sixes.

And it's one. One each. Yeah. And on top of that, too, you lose your first round pick to the Bears this year. And what are you going to do after that? You got to build in the late rounds at that point they're just and they're probably gonna suck for the next two three years before they can actually get to being average or mid you know i don't know sure thoughts on the list um thoughts on the list um i mean i have no complaints these

are all bad teams that that did not do well and well actually the guy i would say the guys on your top the guys on your top three are teams that should be playing better but didn't yeah um and the dolphin like the dolphins it wasn't a bad loss in itself but the fact that they still have not beaten an above 500 team in so long, it makes it that much worse. Yeah. To the point where you could take them off honorable mentions and put them in the top three. Because the Jets are not supposed to be as good as they have been.

The Jets are not supposed to be four and four right now. They were not supposed to be four and three. They're supposed to be terrible. With Zach Wilson as your starting quarterback, that's one that you can make the case for. And the Panthers, even if Bryce Young was good, they still wouldn't be a very good football team either way. No.

So I get them as honorable mentions, but Dolphins for Jets, I think that is the case that you can make for a switch. I think the problem with me on that though is like you're going up a chart against a chargers team that is not good on defense and has a horrible coaching staff yeah and their coaching continuously takes them out of games and you would at least think that the jets would put up more than six points they could They probably should have put up 20. Dude, the Chiefs defense is a top five defense and the Jets made a game out of that or Zach Wilson made a game out of that.

That's more on Zach Wilson just being someone who isn't Zach Wilson. Zach Wilson is not a very good quarterback. So the fact that they've gotten anything out of him this season is not something that is expected. It's something that is a surprise. So when we see Zach Wilson be actually Zach Wilson against the Chargers, that doesn't really surprise me. That's something where like, okay, I, I under, I understand. I see what I saw. But the point, the point I'm trying to make is if you can do that against top five defense in the chiefs, you can do that in a bottom 10 defense in the Chargers. Not saying that the Chargers are bottom 10. I don't know if they are or not, but that's just me emphasizing how not great.

The Chargers haven't been a good defense, yes. No. I just don't think Zach Wilson's a very good quarterback. No. And if there's any – No team goes 0-16. It rarely ever happens. So every once in a while, the Chargers are going to run into a team that's not as good as them, that is much worse than them,

and they'll beat up on them. Kind of like how they did on Monday night football against the Jets. Yes. The Jets should have been better than they were yesterday but they're still a significantly worse football team than the chargers there definitely is moving on we're gonna do trivia right now top five receiving leaders from week nine so i'll give you a couple hints. Top five or top three? Top five.

Okay. I think you said top three. Oh, did I? That must have been from top three, bottom three. That's okay. It's okay. So top five wide receiver receiving leaders from this past week. I'll give you a couple hints.

Most of the guys on this list are from one game. Okay. Tank Dell. Noah Brown. Yeah. Nico Collins. No, Nico Collins had 50 yards. We're counting. Dalton Schultz.

Yes. Noah Brown. CeeDee Lamb is one. Noah Brown is two. Dalton schultz yes so noah brown cd lamb is one noah brown's two dalton schultz is four tank dell's five okay and then cd lamb is i assume off on that list right yeah yeah i said he's number one there we go yeah okay so who am i missing 91 yards like who am i missing now? Wait, did I get them all? No, there's still one. Okay, so I only have four. Wait.

Okay. Ooh. Did I say Noah? I said Noah Brown. Yep. Okay. Yeah, so you got all three Houston Texans players that I was referring to. Yep. Yeah. Okay.

Now this is going to be tough. This is going to be finding a needle in a haystack right now. I'll give you a hint. He's in the AFC North. AFC North. Okay. Let's see T. Higgins. T. Higgins is not on the list, but that's a good guess because he had 110 yards,

so he would have been number six. So close. Yeah. Okay. And we were just mentioning him, too. We just mentioned him? No, I was saying we just mentioned T. Higgins earlier, too. Okay.

AFC North. I'm trying to think. Uh, let me see. Um, it wasn't a Raven because they didn't do very well in the receiving game. It was all run game in that one. It was all run game in that one. It was all running. I want to say did Pittsburgh even play this week? Yeah, but there's no Pittsburgh

players. You gave that one away then. I'm trying to think of the other team. There's the Browns. Browns. Amari Cooper? Yep. Amari Cooper is number three. Five catches, 139 yards.

Wow. Amari Cooper, ever since he's been traded from the Cowboys, he's been such an underrated wide receiver. He's too inconsistent for my liking. Oh, he's very inconsistent. But you could also point that out to bad quarterback play. But at the same time, you could go back to his Raider days when he was really inconsistent.

I used to have him on fantasy football. Yeah. Massive headache. He was either doing really well or he would barely do anything at all. And I could blame Michael Crabtree for that partially as well. That's beside the point. All right. But even with the Cowboys, he was really inconsistent too.

He's one of the best route runners in the NFL, but for some reason he doesn't get a ton of targets. I don't know why. Yeah. Moving on. We'll take a quick break. When we come back, we'll run down our Fumble Rooski fan box. We'll be right back. They're saying it's a catch. It's in. Oh! It's a catch!

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Most underrated week nine performance. Fumble Rooski Fanbox, we post a question filter on our Instagram every Monday, and you can respond with hot takes, questions, and more. We will discuss it and give you a shout-out on our podcast. Respond to next week's Fan Box question to be featured on the show. So question of the week was most underrated Week 9 performance. We'll start out with Lucas Ferreira. Taysom Hill, 11 carries, 52 yards,

four catches, 13 yards, and a touchdown. More carries and more yards than Alvin Kamara. Yeah, he's always been an underrated player, but whenever you see him in a starting role anywhere, he doesn't do that well. He's always better as the underrated guy who has been like, all the people are like, don't sleep on Taysom Hill. But when he gets a full-time job somewhere as a running back,

a wide receiver, a quarterback, he never does very well. I mean, this is his spot to be kind of that Swiss Army knife to do a little bit in a lot of different spots. So I like that. That's a good selection yeah and give you that um be that secret weapon type of guy that your gadget player yeah he's never going to be a superstar but he's he's a solid player yeah nate sloat says cd lamb don't really know why that's underrated. You can make a case it's definitely not underrated, especially given the performance. But CeeDee Lamb is just an underrated wide receiver in general.

He could be looked at as one of the best wide receivers in all of football. One of them. But he's always mentioned as an afterthought. And partially because wide receiving plays has gone through the roof in recent years in the same stretch of time that cd lamb has gone through his the prime of his career but 11 catches 191 yards and he goes on cd lamb goes on a tear for multiple games at a time during stretches of his career that no one really pays attention to.

Like, he is borderline unstoppable sometimes. And if he was just in an offense that could actually utilize him as the focal point of the Cowboys offense rather than Tony Pollard, Ezekiel Elliott, right, Michael Gallup, Amari Cooper. Like, if you utilize just him, he could put up numbers just like Jamar Chase and Justin Jefferson do. Yeah, you know, to go along with that, with the big stretches he goes on, it's now three straight games where he's cracked over 100 yards.

Back-to-back games where he's cracked at least 150 yards. He's unbelievable. The only difference is that only one of those games, he actually scored a touchdown, well, two touchdowns, and that was two weeks ago against the Rams. I probably would have said not so underrated, but the way that you put it makes more sense. Chase McGinty,

Brandon Graham, linebacker for the Eagles, two tackles, one and a half sacks counted for a tackle for a loss and two QB hits. Underrated, I don't know. Maybe. I guess we could say underrated just because he got a sack and a half. Yeah.

I don't know. I don't know enough about Brandon Graham to really make an opinion on that, to be honest. But, like, out of all of the players you could have picked on that defense, the Eagles defense, that developed five sacks, Brandon Graham is the guy you picked? Yeah. Let me look at the box score from that game. It was – because I threw out some names out there too before the podcast uh zach cunningham eight

tack or 10 tackles one tackle for loss reed blankenship seven tackles two passes defended josh sweat four tackles a sack one qb hit uh hit. N'Kobe Dean, not really N'Kobe Dean. I don't know. I guess, sure, if we want to take into account that he was able to get into the backfield a pretty solid amount of times. This doesn't really show how many pressures he got in general. I mean, yeah, he had two QB hits, one and a half sacks, so that could probably tell the rest of the story. But I kind of want to see more than two tackles if we're talking about someone underrated, especially if we're going to be talking about a guy like Brandon Graham

who's not as well known to certain fans. Like, I barely knew who Brandonon graham was till today yeah but moving on uh richie magil magil nicky sorry if i pronounce your name wrong he says joey bosa six tackles two and a half sacks one tackle for loss this one this one i cannot I'll say is more underrated just because Joey Bosa has had a very quiet season. And also, yeah. I'm sorry to cut you off. But yeah, and also Joey Bosa has become the forgotten Bosa brother. Yeah.

I mean, he was in the league first. And when he was drafted, he was actually looked at as a very, very good defensive end, and he still is. It's just now that Nick Bosa's in the league, we think about him. And also, looking at the entire Chargers defense, especially their front seven, that is an underrated performance. When you sack the opposing quarterback eight times, that should be something that's on front page news for the NFL.

But the fact that it doesn't even, it's not even sniffed out, that says something. Yeah. Eight times. No mention of it. If it's Daniel Jones getting sacked eight times, it's all over ESPN. Yeah.

Also, Joey Bosa has six and a half sacks on the year so far. And I'm pretty sure that's actually, those are better stats right now than his brother right now, who is the reigning defensive player of the year. Isn't it? I think I'm not sure it's better stats than chase young. I can tell you that much. Let me check real quick. Um, I'm pretty sure. Yeah. It is better than chase zone too. I mean, uh, Nick Bosa, Nick Bosa has three sacks on the yeah. It is better than Chase Zong, too. I mean, Nick Bosa. Nick Bosa has three sacks on the year.

Yeah. More than double. And Joey Bosa's the forgotten guy. I mean, he's been in the league significantly longer, so, I mean, you kind of understand. But, I mean, man. That's probably just a case of recency bias at that point. Certainly. But, yeah, that's probably just a case of recency bias at that point. Certainly.

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