The Fumblerooski Podcast - Around the Corner -Ep 195 The Fumblerooski Podcast

Episode Date: June 20, 2023

Who are the top-5 Cornerbacks going into the 2023 NFL season? How will the AFC South stack up this season? Adan Wright and CJ Medeiros debate these topics and more!

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Sammy Watkins for the touchdown. Cornerbacks and the afc south well we continue our preview of the 2023 nfl season with our division previews and top five player ranking uh countdowns. So CJ, how are you doing today? Me? I'm all right. I can't complain. It's been a good day so far. Just can't wait to get into the rankings. And of course our friend, Justin Tucker's not here because I know he would probably have Marlon Humphrey number one, but it's okay because we love Tucker. It's possible. Yeah, he might. We, we love our Ravens homers. But as I mentioned before, a great episode today on the Fumble Ruski podcast by Power 88 and Secret Weapon Consulting. Adam Wright, CJ Medeiros, and Justin Tucker's out tonight. But we hope that he'll be back for next week when we start our defensive end.

Our defensive end rankings. Well, more like pass rusher because, I mean, you could be a linebacker and be one of the better pass rushers in the league, so we'll do it that way. But top five cornerbacks today, then AFC South preview, and then we go to the fan box where we get your most underrated cornerbacks. So, CJ, kick us off with our number five. So I was thinking about it.

And, well, I'm going to have to put the Ravens man, Marlon Humphrey, at number five. Somewhere Justin Tucker is smiling. But, you know, that's all right. So here's the thing with Marlon Humphrey at number five somewhere Justin Tucker is smiling but you know that's all right so here's the thing with Marlon Humphrey he's been a stable corner one ever since he was taking the first round all those years ago back in 2017 I believe and what I like about him is how uh it's not just you know the three interceptions the 71 71 tackles, that's pretty good. But three sacks last season as a corner with four QB hits doing everything with a depleted Ravens DB room. You can't hate that. You really can't. And not to mention, I'll admit he does have some injury history, but according to Pro Football Reference, he started all 17 games last year. So you can't really knock him for that as of late.

But overall, I would definitely say Marlon Humphrey totally deserves a spot in the top five. Yeah, and you talked me into it off camera, CJ. He is my number five as well. He's always just been a stable number one corner. He hasn't allowed too many yards but the reason he's not higher on the list is because he does he has allowed at around 600 just over 600 yards in the past four seasons so he is he's a he's a starting level number one corner and his reliability at least when he's healthy and on the field the

health is a thing too his reliability when he's on the field is what earns uh is what is definitely what earns his his top five status i think just being able to show up show up to work every day and doing stable and honest work is that's important that is that is something granted if you're healthy so that's another thing all right then moving on to number four this might be controversial some but i am putting jaylen ramsey new corner of the miami dolphins now in years past you could say hey that jayalen Ramsey fellow, he's totally like the best corner in the league. And I hear that. But despite having four picks last season, it was kind of a down year because, you know, like four picks, that's good. percent completion percentage thrown at him last year and led up 659 yards no two ways around it on a whole rams team that struggled he had a down year and it seemed like at times they were targeting him but i but i don't for me it's not enough to slide him out of the top five because

he's going to miami team where he's actually going to have uh xavian howard on the other side of him probably the best guy he's ever played with thus far and i totally think that's gonna like give him the outs back here yeah definitely um i don't know like was he the was he so xavian howard at this point in his career because he he hasn't he's been a very up and down recently he had a very bad year this past season what do you think of aj bouye being the best he's played with bouye really boy or how do you pronounce it i think he only really had like one good year which was the year that he was that bouye was with jaylen ramsey that one year for the Saxonville Jaguars back in 2017 it was I mean Booyah if you compare their careers I mean this is this is very this is very off to the side off

topic but um I don't know AJ AJ Booyah at that point in his career was a pretty good corner was he not he was all right but I have his stats in front of me right now. You know, he had like 56 tackles, six interceptions. That's good. But the very next year, he falls off completely. Oh, yeah. I mean, like 46 solo tackles, one interception. Like, it's not good. And Pro Football Reference actually doesn't have his advanced stats from 2017.

But I assure you, it was not good. Probably not. So he was really only good for one year that's my point actually it does it does have his advanced defense really where um and oh yeah not from 2017 that's right um not from 2017 but 2018 uh 420 yards allowed in pass coverage uh Then he really fell off a cliff, 855 yards allowed in coverage. But then 2020, he was a little better, but it was also just in seven games. So I don't know. But more to the point, my number four is Darius Slay. Now Slay has been very up and down in the past couple of years. But this past season, it was the upside.

It was up, which is good. And I think the fact that he's coming back and in a good situation with the other kid on the other side, I think that's going to help him. Because it did this past year. When you added another corner on the other side of the ball, name is completely escaping me. James Bradbury? Exactly, yeah.

James Bradbury. When you have that other corner on the other side, it takes a lot off his plate. And he's continued to be as good as he has his years are limited but i think he has at least one maybe two years left in him and he continues to be a top five corner he's my number four i hear you i do can't say i disagree he's not mine he's definitely top 10 though so you know it. It's whatever. So my number three is now the second year sensation Sauce Gardner. And let me tell you something. The Jets hit a home run with this pick. First season in the league,

defensive rookie of the year, first team all pro, pro i tell you this kid man 75 combined tackles in his first season along with 20 passes defensed and two interceptions not too shabby and only allowing 452 yards that's that's that's pretty good i mean he's easily top five and my only concern for him is you know some corners have the dreaded sophomore slump so something i think you got to be wary of but overall i don't expect it to affect him too much yeah uh so i i think sauce gardner is going to be is going to be even better than he was last year, especially with an improved overall team. I think when you have a better offense,

then it takes a lot of pressure off of that defense, and it keeps them off the field. So they'll be well-rested throughout the game, which is an important thing for a, for a defensive unit. Um, but my number three, hang on, heading back to my number three is Jair Alexander. So Alex Jair Alexander, when he is on the field, which he, he has been other than that one season, very healthy has been one of the best corners in the game, if not the best. And he continues to impress.

He is one of those rare corners who can actually make a wide receiver disappear. He is that good. Now, he hasn't been his... He's been... He's allowed a couple of games where he's allowed Justin Jefferson to climb all over him, but every corner has that. number three is because there are some young guns who are really, really starting to, starting to, um, uh, starting who are really starting to emerge as the game's best. And since they did this in their rookie seasons, kind of gave it away there since they did it in their rookie years where corners aren't always that good, their sophomore years. I mean, the sky is the limit for them.

So Jair Alexander is my number three. Well, Jair Alexander is actually my number two. And for the same reasons you mentioned, you know, after having a really injury-riddled 2021 season, he bounced back. He played in 16 games, but he started all 16 and here's the thing he's one of the best pure coverage guys in the league with 14 passes defense and five interceptions on top of that and he's but four tackles for loss you know 56 uh combined tackles because i mean you know here on the phone ruski podcast as adam

mentioned we appreciate a guy who can do it all but the thing is with jair alexander you know we've mentioned injuries but he's not that much of a tackler he's more of a pure coverage guy but he's so good in coverage allowed a completion percentage under 60 percent and on top of that allowed a pat his lowest passer rating ever last season at a 63.7 see i think that's pretty good i mean yeah he's one of the best in the game like there's no two ways about it he's he's consistently been elite and the only issue has been his health which it was only that one year where he actually got hurt for most of the season and then when he came back impressively he didn't miss a beat yep so that is going to be i mean it's going to be a huge piece to this to this packers team

that is that might be lacking at the off on the offensive side of the ball. We'll see how Jordan Love does. But my number two is Tariq Wollin. So this guy is the type of corner who can make a wide receiver disappear, just like the last guy, except do it even better. And he's a rookie. And he got six interceptions this past season. He's a ball Hawk and the, and the, um, quarterbacks don't respect him or they see Jesus. They do. They do. The quarterbacks do respect them.

And in the few times that he is targeted, makes him pay which is huge and it it it causes causes these quarterbacks to learn their lesson so tarik woolen is my number one so cj what is your number two you mean like jesus who's your number two i really thought about it but my number one is uh patrick sirtan from the broncos and here's the thing he was targeted a lot more this year and even still like his his interception numbers don't jump at you he only only had two picks last year, but 60 combined tackles along with only allowing 468 yards. Like that's pretty good considering the fact he plays in a really tough division. And for, for certain hand, you have to look kind of beyond his stats. You know, he was a, uh, how do I put this? He was literally first team all pro last year. And in his second season, he was able to, I think, avoid the sophomore slump.

He got his first pro bowl last year. And he got a forced fumble, 10 passes defense. But I think more so than anyone else, maybe Ramsey, he's a leader. That's what he does. He is a leader. He's the guy everyone on that defense looks to and the fact that he can play as well as he does with you know in the AFC West is nothing short of a miracle honestly because you know you're going you're lying against guys like

Mike Williams and sometimes Travisvis kelsey and davante adams all right i get i left patrick sirtan out of my top five mainly because i mean he is a number one but i want to i really want to see him you know stack up against all the other all the other corners again in the league, um, on an elite level. I just think Jair Alexander is better than him. I think Tariq is better. And I also happen to believe that sauce Gardner is the number one corner heading into the 2023 NFL season. And this is a guy who, so they, so go in college when he was drafted, the biggest, the, the biggest strength for this guy is that quarterbacks respected him in college. He was never thrown to because they, they, they did not dare to take the risk of making him pay. So what happened in the NFL in his rookie year? Quarterbacks did throw towards him.

He was targeted 86 times. And he still allowed just 20 yards more than Tariq Woolen did. And Woolen wasn't even thrown to that often. He was only thrown to about 60 times. And he also had 20 passes defended that's the most in the entire nfl this guy deserved defensive rookie of the year and he's going to take a step forward which with an improved uh with an improved offensive front uh for the for the jets which will make him more rested well rested and he will continue to put up good numbers this guy is a future defensive player of the year mark my words yeah that's fair yeah i mean i don't disagree good good yeah you know we keep it respectful

i mean it's not like somebody you know who would probably have marlon humphrey number one but once again it's all right well you had patrick sartan at number one so we disagree on something yeah but it's like i mean i understand i mean you understand my point i understand yours i'm not gonna bite your head off so it's fine yeah that is good sports radio right there no debate just okay agree to disagree i mean i can but i i don't want to get into it but it's it's whatever this is sports talk radio you go ahead and say whatever is on your mind i just i don't know but sauce isn't a leader though that's the thing that that's my whole thing i haven't't seen him command a defense. Nobody rallies around him.

I don't know. Are you sure about that? I am fairly certain. C.J. Mosley is probably the real signal caller leader of that defense, but that's neither here nor there. Listen, he led the charge in that Aaron Rodgers recruiting debacle. Okay, so? I think if you were able to recruit a 39-year-old veteran quarterback who is known to be one of the best in the game over the past decade,

I think that says something. Aaron Rodgers is going to the Jets regardless of sauce. How do we know that? Because his agent literally said so. He was mocked to the Jets jets everyone knew he was going to the jets before the season ended i wouldn't say they knew he was going to the jets i mean there were a lot of different destinations he could have gone to and they and the jets just so happened to be one of the teams that was interested they wanted him they wanted him you could tell they brought in nathaniel

hackett who is the who is clearly bait to try and lure him in then they bring in alan lazard then they bring in randall cobb okay yeah but so like they've so you really think sauce is the defining factor in all this despite the fact like of everything else you just named well he was he was leading the charge in the whole thing. He was very openly trying to recruit him. And it wasn't that they brought in Lazard and Cobb, but it's whatever, man. Well, there's Lazard and Cobb, and then there's Sauce Gardner.

One of them was the defensive rookie of the year. And two of them played with Rodgers and was literally bait to try to get him there he was i'm telling you he was going there with or without sauce okay well i don't know if that that defense is as elite as it was without sauce last year no well i'm not talking about whether or not the defense was elite or not that's the thing like yeah it was but to say that sauce was one of if not the defining factor that lead or not. That's the thing. Yeah, it was, but to say that Sauce was one of, if not the defining factor that caused Rodgers to go to the Jets,

I'm not certain. All right. We're just going to have to agree to disagree there. Yes, sir. Up next, we got our AFC South preview. So how that division is going to stack up. That's next. This is the Fumble ruski podcast And the pass is no sign yet.

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Swings it way down the field. The walkout! Sammy Watt takes for the touchdown! Welcome back to the Fumble Rooski Podcast by Power 88 and Secret Weapon Consulting. Adam Wright and CJ Medeiros here with you so we are on to our second segment and our third installment of our division previews going into the 2023 nfl season which is this week the afc south so that is the jacksonville jaguars the tennessee titans the indianapolis colts and the houston texans So kind of right off the bat for this division, I mean, you have to have the Jaguars winning this division. I mean, there's really no other way around it.

Tennessee has completely fallen apart after this past season. Indianapolis is still a couple of years off. In fact, I think things are going to get worse before they get better for them. And Houston is just like, they're headed in the right direction, but they're a couple of years off. I think the organization clearly is in good hands with Nick Casario for Houston, but Jacksonville has been doing some great things. They have continued it throughout this offseason. They lost Jawan Taylor, and then they took a kid in the draft

to replace him at the tackle position. And then you add Calvin Ridley to the mix with already wide receiver one caliber Christian Kirk. So adding all of these pieces together i mean this is a this is a force to be reckoned with and possibly even a contender to represent the afc in the super bowl perhaps now see here's a thing with this whole division there no no bones about it this is this is a one horse race there's I really don't think barring like a miracle like some player you never heard of just comes right out of nowhere or Anthony Richardson and CJ Stroud have like insane rookie years you know a la Justin Herbert

or Joe Burrow that I don't see anyone really competing with Jacksonville. And the thing is Jacksonville got better. Lawrence got better. Travis Etienne is healthy. You have Calvin Ridley, Christian Kirk, and Evan Ingram, a revamped line and a defense that's getting there. And, I mean, I guess maybe your closest competition is maybe the Titans, but Ryan Tannehill is on the fast lane out of the league. Outside of Derrick Henry, you have nobody that's scary. I mean, maybe Traylon Burks, that's a big maybe. You know, you lost Robert Woods. You lost Taylor LeJuan. big maybe you know you lost robert woods uh you lost taylor lawan your defense is still hit or

miss at best and indy i'm just sort of disappointed with indy jonathan taylor took a step back that whole offensive line from kelly to to uh nelson took a step back that defense took a step back it's like in and you're definitely going to experience some growing pain especially with somebody's raws anthony richardson who i honestly don't even think he he's even going to start next season and the only team that's probably got the closest bright you know i feel like indy might have a bright future but a team that i would say barring a horrific screw-up that has the brightest future and the closest bright future, but a team that I would say, barring a horrific screw-up, that has the brightest future and the closest bright future is the Texans.

And even still, you have rookie C.J. Stroud, a receiver core that lost Brandon Cooks, but they did get Robert Woods, right? I mean, you've got a solid receiver room. Your defense, you bolster with guys like Will anderson it's a very young team and there's definitely going to be some growing pains but maybe they can contend with jacksonville but right now the only way jacksonville loses this division is if they have like a ravens or 49ers type season where everybody gets hurt yeah like the only way jacksonville isn't a at the very least a playoff team is if they lose everyone like and i mean everyone like you could even make a case even if they lose trevor lawrence they have a good team around them and if they have a serviceable backup who has a career year

maybe they do make the playoffs i mean this division just it sucks i don't know but whoever it is whoever it is whoever it is they if if they if they can throw the ball for 20 or more yards it's cj with some sort of accuracy i could see cj bethard taking this team to the playoffs well he wouldn't take them the team would take him to the playoffs, but they, this is a good team around them. Like they need a lot of injuries in order for things to not work out at Jacksonville. Or let's say the coaching just falls apart again, like, uh, like urban Meyer in 2021. Like it, it has to be that bad, but I just don't see it. I don't see it. And, um, look, I, I do love the, I love the direction that Houston is going in. I think they're doing some very good things. They need that wide receiver one, and they need CJ Stroud to take a year or so, um,

under NF with against NFL defenses and with, with with nfl coaching uh to really develop into what he could potentially be at the big league level so we'll have to see we'll have to see with him um i think he can do very well what you are what you are missing in your texans analysis is dalton schultz oh yeah i forgot about him so they still have him they have damian pierce in the running game they have robert woods they also do have john mechi yeah well is he going to be healthy well he should be he's coming back so we'll see how that goes they have him so it's a potential guy they don't have that number one option for for uh cj stroud yet which they're probably looking to do in next in this next offseason which tells me

this is that this is a developmental year for the team it's not a bad thing sometimes you have to take a step back before you take a step forward and i think i do think that nick casario is doing a very good job as g of this team. I do. How do you get the return that you do from Deshaun Watson, a guy who was borderline untradeable with his off-the-field issues, and he also, when he took this year off, I mean, even without all the allegations, he took a year off, and he was not willing to negotiate with the Texans at all.

So, I mean, that does say some bad things about the guy, but they still got three first-round picks out of it. So you did that. You drafted some good guys with it. You completely bolstered that offensive line. So the sky is the limit for the Texans in the near future, but the future. Not now. Right now, it is the Jacksonville Jaguars who are going to be on top in this division and potentially in the AFC. Yeah. I think they may have a little ways to go, especially on defense,

if they want to stack up to someone like Cincy or KC. But overall, it's hard not to like the direction they're going. At least for Jacksonville. I guess. So when we stack them up, so the AFC North was last year, but when we stack them up against Cincy, Chidobe Awuze and Cam Taylor Britt against Jacksonville's secondary.

They have Tyson Campbell and they had Shaq Griffin, but they don't anymore, so I don't know. I'm forgetting the other guy who they had over there. I mean, they're not bad, but I don't know. I trust Joe Burrow and company to put up way more fireworks. I mean, that's the thing. They're going to get outscored, I mean, unless their defense can step up.

Jacksonville's, I mean. Yeah. unless their defense can step up Jacksonville's. I mean, yeah, I would say, well, I would say their defense, at least in the front seven is a little better than Cincinnati's. Yeah. Yeah. They have a Josh.

Yeah. They have the other Josh Allen and Devin Lloyd for a Saturday. Yeah. And who's their other edge rusher? Exactly. You got Trayvon Walker. Oh, don't get me started on Trayvon Walker. Little mini rant here.

I'm not sold on him until they use him correctly. They're using him as an off-ball linebacker, and they should not. Yeah, and he should have been. They're not lining him up on the edge. He was drafted as an edge rusher. Thank you. And it's not like he's actually doing much. He's only racked up 24 tackles.

Cause they're using him as an off ball linebacker. And that's not what he's ever been. Like I, like I said, don't respectfully do not talk to me about Trayvon Walker until they learn how to use him. Exactly. fully do not talk to me about trayvon walker until they learn how to use him exactly um but as for corners their their starters are darius williams and tyson tyson campbell i still take since these guys yeah they're uh cincinnati is my favorite to win the Super Bowl. Not only make it there, but also win it. But Jacksonville could give them a run for their money.

Oh, they certainly could. And the more Trevor Lawrence improves, the more I like him stacking up against Joe Burrow. Like, play style, they're basically the same. They're both high-vol uh yards guys and touchdown passes while getting a little up there in the interceptions but if you get like 8 to 12 a year with 30 plus touchdowns then you're fine yeah so i mean they're basically they're basically the same and they're both big time competitors in the big in the big moment i cannot wait for a

playoff matchup between those two that's going to be awesome yep that's going to be fun um but we'll deal with that when we get to january and uh it's the postseason and we are trying to figure out who's going to be the afc champ which is going to be a lot of fun um and no nothing to nothing to uh you know knock on patrick mahomes but it's just that his the team that is around him is not that good then again we did say that last year but this is bottom of the he has less now i mean we know we praised him for doing more with less but more with i mean more with almost nothing because like i said before said it once i'll say a thousand times if travis kelsey goes down it's going to be a long season for them this is the same stuff that tom brady had to deal with in uh in 2013 he had nothing but he did get him to the afc championship and that's also what he had to deal

with when he first started out remember you know troy brown david givens a tight end who i can't remember yeah and let's also not forget these are all patriots teams who either won the superbowl or made the afc championship so if patrick mahomes is anywhere close to what uh tom brady is then he might figure it out we'll see but i'm either way i'm loving what the afc is shaping out to be as at least the top of the the top of the top you know you got trevor lawrence joe burrow patrick mahomes josh allen just to name a few i mean there's other's other guys, Lamar Jackson, Justin Herbert, Aaron Rodgers for a year or two. Like this is going to be a fun season in the AFC.

Bad for the Patriots if Mac Jones can play in any sort of capacity, but we'll see. We'll see. All right. So that wraps up our AFC South preview. Next, we are going to go to the fan box where we're going to, where we asked you, and we are going to react to your answers about the most underrated cornerbacks going into the 2023 NFL season.

That's next. Stay tuned. Welcome back to the Fumble Rooski Podcast by Power 88 and Secret Weapon Consulting. Adam Wright with CJ Medeiros. We welcome you to the fan box portion of this show where we post a question filter on our Instagram every Monday and you can respond with hot takes, questions, and more. We will discuss it and give you a shout out on our podcast.

Respond to next week's fan box question to be featured on our show. So for the question of the week, we asked you guys what your most underrated cornerback was going into the 2023 NFL season. We got 17 responses for this one. So big turnout for you guys. I appreciate, we appreciate all of the support that you guys have given throughout the years.

And you guys didn't disappoint in this week. So Owen, Owen Vanslack actually had two responses. So he said first Kendall Fuller, which is a very good one. He's been underrated for years. He's been underrated for years. He's been underrated for a very long time, simply because he is on a team that cannot decide a name.

So how can you mention Kendall Fuller if you don't even know what team he plays for? Jesus. They're about to change their name again, apparently. Wait, what? No way. Yeah, because there's another team somewhere out in there in the ether called the commanders oh so they so it was already trademarked so they if they lose this legal battle then they have to change their name again which might not be the worst thing because

commanders may have may be the most bland name i have ever heard in my life i still think red wolves is the big ticket here yeah what about i'm just thinking about that washington area what about the blue claws like the like the like the crab oh yeah i don't know but i'm just i'm just thinking out loud but neither here nor there uh owen vanslack also said i know he's a rookie but cater coho uh the thing is he's not a rookie and yes he's very underrated he's on the dolphins he's he's gonna learn a lot from ramsey and howard yeah so he may not get that much playing time i wonder can he play in the slot though i believe he can so there you go he'll that much playing time. I wonder, can he play in the slot, though? I believe he can. So there you go. He'll get some playing time,

but his name recognition is still going to be overshadowed by those two monsters who are going to be lining up wide. Patrick Williver said Stokes, but also keep an eye out for Darren Bland. Oh, I think it's Duranon right darren bland yeah he's good but i wonder how much playing time he's going to get now that gilmore is probably but also Stokes. That has been a guy. So he's been up and down. So he's more of like a cornerback too,

especially to Jaya Alexander, but he still contributes to what is actually a very good Packers secondary for the past couple of years. He was taken in the first round, so maybe he's not as good as he was supposed to be when they drafted him, but he's still pretty good. Solid one-two punch between him and Alexander. Ian Mulhern said Dante Jackson. Yes, I can confirm. I like Dante Jackson.'s he's very underrated doesn't get his respect

and i'm still mad the patriots didn't take him that and i don't want to say like 2017 yeah yeah well oh well um but dante jackson has been a very good corner in the past few years for the Panthers. A big part of what has been a solid secondary in the past few years. It's uniquely one of the best in the league the Panthers have because you could rack off several names in that secondary between him, J.C. Horn, Dante Jackson, Jeremy Chin. The list goes on. Steven Parker said Chidobe Awuze, and he also said Mike Hilton. jeremy chin dante jackson jeremy chin the list goes on uh stephen parker said chidobi a woozy and he also said mike hilton so two of the three starting corners um for the for the bangles and

two who are actually pretty good yeah the bangles secondary doesn't really have anyone who's super flashy, but let me tell you something, they're all clicking. It is insane. Yeah, I mean, they don't have any of the best in the league, but they still have two solid starting level corners. Chidobe Awuze, for the eight games that he played last year, he didn't allow a single touchdown. So he was actually pretty dominant last year.

He's not a household name, at least maybe not yet, so he was actually pretty dominant last year he's not a household name at least maybe not yet but he was pretty good and also a guy who hasn't been mentioned or i don't think he he was by any of our fan box responders uh cam taylor brit did a good job stepping in and relief of a woozy now you have both of them as starting as starting corners and then you have mike Hilton in the slot. One of the best slot corners in the league. They, that that's that Cincinnati team top to bottom is just that,

that team is going to the super bowl. Chris said, Jack Jones, high key could have put himself into this category next season. He could have, but then he saw John Morant and said, hold my beer. And he even commented about it. He tweeted and talked about how John Morant was such an idiot for what he did. And then he did the same thing.

The whole thing is just ridiculous. And it's upsetting to us as patriots fans because of what could have been because you look at you look at gonzalez and now you also you would have had jack jones and jonathan jones in the slot i mean just that would have been but he decided to bring a loaded gun to an airport. Okay. And not speaking out against the Second Amendment and not speaking for it either. However, why bring it through security?

Why airport security? That's just. That's just fine. That's just stupid. Cola DJ said, so we had a couple responses he had jc horn and aj terrell yes both of them jc horn only his second year but oh man did he take a huge step and aj terrell would probably be recognized and i i'm guilty of this too perhaps as like a top five corner if he didn't if he wasn't on a team that sucked it's not even just that he also got hurt so he didn't so uh he

missed most of last year um i would have terrell top five in fact i had him number two going into last year and he might have been if he didn't get hurt true so it really it really stinks we hate injuries and jc horn another injury issue but in the time that he has played he's been really good he allowed just 400 yards in 13 games last year and 18 in the three games that he played his rookie season so in the limited time that he has been able to play, he's been one of the better young corners in the game. So we'll see what he does. I was actually fighting the urge to put JC Horn top five, and I came through and replaced him with Marlon Humphrey, who was probably more deserving since he's been more of a stable guy um william mantel said dj reed so the number two corner for the

new york jets everybody thinks of sauce gardner nobody thinks about dj reed it reeds been uh overshadowed by sauce but he's pretty good in his own right he he's definitely a darn good uh corner two yeah um i i second you on that uh you know dj reed all the number two corners always get overshadowed people always think about the one but the two is i mean that's important too uh then you got nick reyes who said stefan gilmore a guy who's been playing at a high level even since his patriots days when he was an all pro and defensive player of the year uh going for hopping from team to team he was on he was a panther then he was a colt but he still puts up numbers regardless yep yeah age has not slowed him down one bit and because he's getting up there in age people tend to forget about him but like you said he's still

playing it like an elite level yeah and maybe he won't be the defensive player of the year caliber guy that he was but he could still play at a number one corner level which is why this dallas cowboys defense is probably the best it's been in a long time and most well-rounded cowboys team in a while uh floodster sports zone said carlton davis has been underrated for a long time he's their number one corner that's there's there's no two ways about that but he's never he's not the flashy uh number one elite guy he never really was um but he's a number one corner on a winning team which by the way he was um yeah yeah jack rob said get uh said uh newsome as in greg newsome right yeah so greg newsome from the browns i can see him he's gotta get his coverage stats a little better

but overall he's not shabby yeah he's young so he has that going for him, and he's shown flashes. But if he can continue that development, he could be a pretty good corner. Also, if Denzel Ward could just get his crap together, along with that entire Browns organization, they could be very good. Eli Turner said Charverius Ward. Yeah, I mean, he's all right, Um, Eli Turner said Charverius Ward. Yeah. I mean, he's all right, but he's very, and I do mean very inconsistent.

He's either making the game winning pick or he's getting burned for like a 75 yard touchdown. Yeah. And he has, he has improved greatly from his chiefs days to the 49ers, but he still does have a little bit of an inconsistency there, which is something you don't want in a corner. Landon Weber said Tariq Wolin, who was the runner-up for Defensive Rookie of the Year, only to Sauce Gardner.

And to that, if you're the runner-up for Defensive R rookie of the year only to sauce gardener and to that like if you're the runner up for defensive rookie of the year you're not really underrated yeah i i hear that i just there's not really a lot i can like say but yeah he's certainly right if he can do what he did last year again then he's definitely going to be like a bona fide top five. Yeah. And also you add Devin Witherspoon to that mix. And that's going to be, I mean, you can clearly see that they're trying to restore their former Legion of Boom from earlier in the 2010s decade.

But Jad Noman said Marlon Humphrey another guy who i wouldn't say is underrated i would say if i'd pick anything i'd say he's slightly over because he's he's always been looked at as one of the best corners of the game but if you look at his stats i just don't see it like he's a number one don't get me wrong but he's always been he's always been allowing over 600 yards in coverage which isn't bad it's it's pretty solid but it's not sauce gardner or tarik woolen level it just isn't and it's not patrick sirtan level either yeah so i mean all the best corners in the game i mean those are all the younger ones and you can even mention jire alexander as well uh but marlon humphrey he's still a good corner

he's still a very good corner he's just not underrated that's all um jay-z ate hockey said eli apple everyone disrespects him and rightfully so yeah yeah earlier in his career when he was a giant he he showed some promise and maybe he would be looked at in a better light if he wasn't talking so much especially since he's not really an elite corner he was drafted in the first round by the giants but he hasn't really delivered on that since he's been really an elite corner. He was drafted in the first round by the Giants, but he hasn't really delivered on that since he's been in the league. Because he is a draft bust. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, there's really not much more to say about it. I mean, the Bengals let him walk for a reason. You have a young emerging solid player in Cam Taylor Britt. You've got Chidobe Awuze, who's continuing to look better and better by the year. And then you've got Mike Hilton in the slot. So it really leaves no room for Eli Apple, which tells you what the,

what the Bengals think of that guy. How do you think he was signed? Um, I don't think so either. We'll have to look at that. Um, all right, well,

that is the last of our responses. Any other, anything else before we end the show? CJ? Nope. All right. Well, that'll do it for us tonight.

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