The Fumblerooski Podcast - Being Offensive -Ep 261 The Fumblerooski Podcast

Episode Date: April 9, 2024

Who are the most underrated offensive line draft prospects? Who are most overrated WR prospects? Which receivers are more likely to surpass expectations? Adam Wright, Chris Costich, and CJ Medeiros debate these topics and more!

in this week's edition of or in this tuesday edition of the fumble ruski podcast we'll be going through our favorite offensive line prospects and we'll do a nice little deep dive into the wide receiver prospects a very very deep class of wide receiver prospects that is you are listening to the fumble ruski podcast it may not have always showed it in the staff sheet but you can see him making throws when he needs to make the throws back-to-back games where he has three touchdowns someone's got to get that six or seven spot he's an elite wide receiver as a rookie truly a lose-lose scenario for both sides you're listening to the fumble ruski podcast powered by or by Power 88 Dean Radio and Secret Weapon Consulting.

I'm Chris Kostich. Alongside me for this Tuesday edition, CJ Medeiros and Adam Wright. Thank you for joining in. Hope no one's blind from the eclipse on Monday and whatnot. Did you guys, are you guys okay? How are you guys' eyes? I can't see. CJ, you're the one with glasses.

I'm more afraid of for you. Adam beat me to it. Oh, believe me, you're forgiven, but it's whatever. So we got a short list for this one. We're now 17 days away from the NFL draft. And today we're going to be going through some more of the offensive side. Friday, we went through the defensive side with the front seven and the defensive backs. Today, we're going to be looking at offensive line prospects and wide receiver prospects. And to start, we'll go through the offensive line prospects and obviously not as deep of a class as the wide receiver prospects.

You're not going to see many of these guys in the top 15, but there's still going to be guys that will make it into the first round and trickle more into the second round. And it's really just a who's who of who you really want to have. And I'll just leave it up to you guys. Who are your favorite offensive line prospects? Or give me two each. Give me two each to build off of, and then we'll expand on that.

How about that? CJ, how about you go first? Mr. Giraffe Guy himself. Thank you. You're very generous. Now, for me, it would be easy to just take the cop-outs in Joe Alt and Olu Fashanu because we already know that those two are the top dogs. But what if we go a little deeper? Because in my opinion, the third best offensive tackle is i mean i know everyone's hyping up

talis fuaga and troy fatanu as of late but no let's not forget about the man from alabama himself jc latham this man is 6 6 342 pounds right 11 inch hands-a-eighth-inch arm length, just an absolute physical specimen who runs off 4'8", 5'40". This man is an absolute mauler of a blindside blocker. He can play left or right. This guy, he's darn near everything you'd want, and he would be the best tackle in the draft, literally, if not for somebody like, you know, for somebody like Fashanu or Alt. Because we all know, like, who's the best ones there.

So the thing is, other than just, like, his stature alone, for a guy of that size, right, 6'6", 33 40 basically we'll call it he's quick and i don't mean fast like his 40 time would suggest i mean he's quick he's got fast feet he's good with with his hands just especially like in the pass in the run he might need a little bit of tightening up but just pass blocking by itself this man can definitely put even seasoned edge rushers on their butt. And the only real issue that I have is that, like I said, you know how he's like a big mauler tackle? Well, he has the big mauler downside, which is flags. In the 2022-23 season, this was granted like a year ago, but still, he had 12 flags.

And granted, he had fewer last season, but he's a little eager to go out there and hit the D-line. But that's workable. That's workable. And then there's another one who, in my eyes, is one of the most intriguing offensive tackles. And this guy, I don't even know why people overlook him. It's Tyler Guyton from Oklahoma, 6'8", 322, with a 34.5-inch vertical and a 5.240. This guy, he's just another one that, just from a physical standpoint, as we see offensive linemen, larger in size but quicker. this is a guy that i think is the spinning image of that beyond just frame this guy is a true actual athlete it's one thing if your offensive line is just big but this guy is athletic like actually athletic he's got long arms he can definitely side he has precisely really disciplined pass protection and as the league gravitates more towards a pass first offense these blind side quarterback blockers

like these pass blockers that's what you want and the issue right is that this issue, by the way, at least, is coachable. He plays too tall. Does that make sense? Yeah, no, that makes sense. Yeah. Yeah, I know. He plays too tall. That's kind of like the issue there.

You spoke straight facts when your voice was cutting in and out and you sounded like – I don't even know what you sounded like. We want to apologize to everyone if we're hurting your ears. We had some connection problems in the last episode as well and it seems we're still having connection issues today. Yeah, those connection issues today yeah those connections those connection issues were the most sense that cj's made on this show yeah well at least it's still a better argument than anything adam stats are for losers right has put out so either way i believe it but all story short, I mean, long story short,

basically what I'm saying is the only real issue I have with Guyton is that he plays too tall and he lets smaller defenders, like, get under the pads, but that's coachable. Adam, you have anything you want to add to the guys that CJ has laid out for us? Yeah, I think I like um graham barton i think this is a guy who has he's the most nfl ready out of the late first round tackles who are here um he's projected to go in the middle in the towards the end of the first round um he's a guy with some good upper body strength. He has good hands. And this is a guy who has the ability to make an early impact on any team that needs a starting

tackle. And we're going to end up going over mostly tackles because that's the biggest need on most offensive lines. Tackle is a very, very hard position to find. And if you're going to take a guard or a center, fine. Maybe do it on day two or three of the draft. Creed Humphrey came in the second round. Pause. And he's one of the best. Sure.

Creed Humphrey came in the second went in the second round check yourself yeah um another one i like is armarius mims um the biggest downside for this guy is that he has not gotten a lot of time to play reason for that is injuries but other that, when he's on the field, he, he makes a strong impact and he has unbelievable athleticism. So I think this is a guy who, um, if he could just stay healthy, can be one of the better tackles to come out of this draft. Um, I think it's a lot of, it's a lot of upside there. And he's another guy who's projected to go in the later first round, maybe even day two. But I think Armarius Mims is the type of player

teams should take a flyer on in the first round. Who need tackle help? So all that being said, who of these linemen, and I'm going to throw a couple of different things out here, right? So who is the most underrated and overrated or obviously separate, right? And who do we think is probably going to slip the most? It could be a second rounder that hell we could see get drafted into the fourth round or a first rounder that slips into day two who do we think is the most i'm not even gonna try to say the word my brain's fried right now um who is the most prone to slipping the most in this draft

i think jc latham i think he's the type of player who looks like he could easily he's the type of player in this draft who he could go top 15 but he could also go in day two of the draft it's really it he's such a wild card but cj's said all of the ups and downs for this guy this this guy has some high upside um and i think he's also a player who has some carries some risk with the penalty issues what i say is that um tackle position the tackle position is very hard to find and for that reason i'm not saying that it's good that a a tackle is heavily penalized but i would take a i would take a tackle who is penalized, but I would take a, I would take a tackle who is penalized a lot, but keeps the quarterback on his feet. Then one who is not penalized a lot,

but lets the quarterback through all the time. I think keeping your quarterback healthy is much more important than a 15 yard penalty penalty, or it would be 10, obviously. Yeah, I think J.C. Latham is the one who's – you could see him going in a lot of different spots in this draft. CJ, what say you? As far as I go, I was really hoping Adam wouldn't mention a Marius Mims because that would be like one that I think could slip. And I'm not saying that just because he said it. I'm not.

But I mean, there I mean, just look at some of the new mock drafts that have come out lately. This guy has actually just been sometimes not even mocked in the first round. And we obviously know the premier tackles in this draft, like I said, are Alton Fashanu. But once you get with, like, guys like Latham, Buaga, Mims, Fatanu, it's literally anybody's guess. Heck, some people put guys like Tyler Guyton and even Jordan Morgan over him. So for kind of the same reasons Adam said, would feel like mims just due to like his

overall lack of playing time due to the injury bug would probably be uh the most likely to slip because i mean at least latham has like i would say like a 90 chance of going in the first round mims i don't think quite has that before we move on give me an underrated and give me an overrated offensive line prospect you want me to go first i don't care who goes first you can go first cj yeah so somebody that i think is really underrated is oregon's jackson powers johnson Juergens Jackson Powers Johnson. He is the best interior offensive line prospect in this draft. He really is. And I know that's not really as sexy as the offensive tackle,

but this guy, he can play guard, he can play center, and he's going to kick it wherever he goes. As for the most overrated prospect, it has to be Tyrese Fuaga out of Oregon State. Like, physically, that is the kind of tackle you would be looking for. But, oh, my God. This guy is just not a fluid mover in everything he does. From the start of the play to the end of the play, there's just so much wasted emotion.

I know this can be coached out of him, but he's very raw. And not to mention, he didn't exactly play against the most stellar of competition in the Pac-12. I would say Tyler Guyton is definitely the most underrated um i mean this is definitely a guy who um he has all the tools to be a really good tackle but he's still been overlooked so i think this is the type of player that you want to look at who will slip in draft boards, who I think a lot of teams, they're going to find a diamond in the rough in. And I say diamond in the rough, he could go day two.

But I mean, that's like, there's six, there's seven rounds in the draft. Overrated? That's, I would would say a tough one i would say it is really tough to really pick when it comes to especially drafting you know and especially o-line especially o-line because a lot of o-line prospects can you can just flip a coin, and that'll be how their career pans out. Basically. And a lot of the tackles who are taken early in the first round, you could get Penny Sewell, but you could also get the other guy for the Giants whose name is escaping

it right now. Evan Neal? You could get Neal. So it's dare we say Fashanu or Joe Alt becomes a bust?

There's a really strong chance at least one of them does. But I don't I mean, do we bet on that? Because it's a coin flip on whether or not those guys actually pan out. Um, that being said, I will say Fuego. Um, I think he's being very much overdrafted in every single mock draft. Um, he gets a little bit aggressive um his balance isn't great and uh he needs more lower body strength i think uh the thing with offensive line or just anywhere on the line you have to go from

low to high and the power goes comes from your legs so to not be able to execute there, that's going to be very important, and if you're facing some of the better edge rushers in the game, that sets you up for failure, and yeah, I think he is going to be overdrafted. I like it. Anything else that we would like to add before we move on to the next segment? No, not really. Word. Cool. So we'll take a quick break. When we come back, we'll go through the wide receiver prospects. As mentioned, probably one of the deepest classes that we've seen in a while and a lot of talent in this class to say the least especially top 10 you could even

say top 20 it's it's a real toss-up of what the order is going to be at this point but we'll go over that next you're listening to the fumble ruski podcast it may not have always showed it in the staff sheet but you can see him making throws when he needs to make the throws back to back games where he has three touchdowns Someone's got to get that six or seven spot. He's an elite wide receiver as a rookie. Truly a lose-lose scenario for both sides. You're listening to the Fumble Rooster Podcast by Power 88 Dean Radio and Secret Weapon Consulting.

Chris Kostic, Adam Wright, CJ Medeiros. We move on to our second and final subject of the evening, wide receiver prospects. Now, the top three is, as we know, Marvin Harrison, Malik Neighbors, and Romo Dunsey. And Marvin Harrison is the clear-cut number one receiver in this class. And Malik Nabors and Romo Dunsey. Nabors is two on basically everyone, and I know Dunsey's three, but I feel like you could definitely flip-flop those a little bit. And after that, most of these receivers aren't really projected to get drafted

until late first round and second round picks. So with that being said, we'll kind of go with the same thing that we did with the offensive line prospects. Give me two that you like, not names, Marvin Harrison and Robo Dunsey and Malik neighbors.

And we'll go from there. Adam, you want to go first this time? Yeah, CJ. Yeah, Adam, go first. Yes, that's what I asked you. Okay. I'm going Brian Thomas Jr. I think this is a player that he's kind of stuck in Malik neighbor's shadow. And the reason I believe that he is,

he is one of the better wide receivers outside of those top three is because I think you can do a lot with him. He's also, he's a vertical threat and he can also go underneath. He also, you know, he's a very tall player and he has speed so he has the edge over a lot of corners in this league and he can also beat them out he has a lot of quickness underneath he's good with intermediate routes and i think this is a player who um i think he going coming out of lsu i really trust those prospects coming out of that school. They always seem to pan out and this guy has all the tools to do it. He may be stuck in the shadow of Malik neighbors, but I think this guy's going to hold his own wherever he goes. so um right and then we're going with another player um okay out of all of them i think

problem is outside of all of those pro outside of brian thomas is not really anybody who i trust very much um i guess i would go xavier uh xavier worthy he is a player who has some upside um he has great speed as he's shown in the combine i don't believe he's going to get overdrafted just from that speed but he's a day two pick in my eyes who has some good speed and he can play on the outside. So it's funny you say that, Adam, because that was a receiver I was going to bring up as well. And a guy that I was actually going to say could potentially even be a first round pick just based off the speed alone. And looking at the highlights too, from college, it's, you know, he's burnt, he's burning guys out there. Just speed alone, nevermind route running. It's if you got a guy that's really fast, I mean,

the only problem really is the size that he has five 11, one 65, but you know, that's what a lot of people said about Devonta Smith, and he's doing just fine, obviously. So size in this case does not really matter, pause. But in terms of what this kid can do, I think that this is a receiver who's projected to be a day two pick. We could easily see be a day one pick.

Yeah, I'm only worried about his hands. who's projected to be a day two pick, we could easily see be a day one pick. Yeah. I'm only worried about his hands. Yeah. He has some issues with drops, but his footwork, his speed, all of that I really like. So I think this guy could be a really good player. But those drops, he's got to work on those hands. CJ, what say you?

I think you make some good points. I do, I do. As far as I go, everybody loves Xavier Worthy. But let's talk about the other kid at Texas. Adonai Mitchell. Yeah, Adonai Mitchell. This man. This man here he is a little uh he's built a

little differently than uh worthy still like lanky but he's six two two oh five he's built much differently than worthy i think that's very safe to say yeah just uh he's got a he's got a 434 40 uh 39 and a half inch vertical and it's just just once again kind of like with worthy just the explosiveness the body control the the hands that's what you want just he's so good at just creating separation and not just with speed but with footwork because speed can get you far in college in the nfl it's the footwork that'll save you and the only issue that i have is really just uh he's not very physical. He gets bullied around sometimes by like press coverage. And he's not a good 50-50 ball guy.

Because like I said, he's only 205. If you have a corner that's like 215, 220, he's going to body him every time. That could be an issue. But there's nothing the weight room can't solve, especially when it comes to that. And here's another kid that I definitely think is underrated, South Carolina's Xavier Leggett. Now here's the thing, he's 6'1", 221 pounds, and you're like,

221 is a wide receiver? Absolutely not. Until you realize this man runs a sub 4'4", 40, and he's got a straight-up 40-inch vertical and a 126 broad jump. Let's not pretend that this guy can't play. Let's not pretend he can't run and jump at the best of them. When targeted, he has a 122.2 QBR. He's good in short because he can muscle around DBs, and he's a pretty solid deep threat as well, not shabby at run blocking, and his hands are pretty darn good. And considering the fact that Xavier Leggett is extremely unlikely to go in the first round, some team's going to be laughing all the way to a ring if they draft him. Okay, that's a bit of an exaggeration, but this kid's going to be scary.

You know, he's just reliable. That's the word. Because, you know, South Carolina's not really the powerhouse they once were, but the fact that he's that big and can move that well vertically and in the middle, that's what you want. And the only – and once again again another issue with him that i have once again it's it's just coaching see he kind of lets the ball come to him instead of attacking which is weird because he has the frame and mass to like go out and grab and win the 50 50

balls but he wants to get it to his chest instead of going out and pulling the ball himself. And this is another thing, like I said, that's just coaching. I think he needs to get better at recognizing defenses because he will use, like I said, his frame to just absolutely bully smaller DBs. NFL, that's not going to fly when you're getting double teamed and defenses are more than willing to bring the fight to you. Just a little time in the film room, a little time just in some coverage drills, and it should be fine.

That's what I got as far as underrated guys. All right. So to kind of lead off with the overrated guys, I'm just going to throw this one out there. I don't know how I'm necessarily feeling about Keon Coleman. Amen. Yeah. Glad.

All right. Cool. Cool. we're good so Keon Coleman is currently ranked as the number nine receiver from Florida State uh according to NFL draft buzz and right off the bat obviously he's got a good frame he's 6'3", 215, or actually measured in at 6'4", 215 at the combine. So he's got a good frame and whatnot. He's got that Randy Moss, Calvin Johnson type of build. He's got a good body. He's got great leaping ability. He's a guy that you can toss it up to, and he might come down and get it nine times out of 10. But in terms of the route running and quickness, acceleration, not really seeing it a whole lot.

In terms of the measurables, obviously he's got good hands. But in terms of the 40 time, he's in the 15th percentile. 10 yard, he's in the 15th percentile. 10-yard, he's in the 68th percentile. He's got a good QBR when targeted, 110. But he was also dealing with a really good quarterback at Florida State. And for some reason, the name isn't. Jordan Travis. Yeah, Jordan Travis at the helm at quarterback, who was a Heisman candidate.

So what if Jordan Travis was the reason for this kid's success? Maybe that's a potential reason. I don't know. But I'm just not a fan of the quickness. The acceleration's a problem. And how well is he going to be on the longer routes, especially for a guy that's going to be on the longer routes, especially for a guy that's going to be an outside,

supposed outside threat? Yeah. You know, I think you're right. And for a guy who a lot of people have, as some people would say like a top five prospect and the receiver realm, and for a guy that people say is a bonafide first rounder, the fact that he's that slow, that just unagile.

I don't even think that's a word. And just that poor route running. That's not ideal. And it's just, I mean, his hands are at least okay. And even for a guy of that size, you would think he's just a better blocker, but no. It's just he has, like, the physical tools that will serve him well in college, but this man better find a new shtick in the pro league because I am not a fan. I agree. He reminds me creepily of Quentin Johnston. It's funny you mentioned the run blocking

part because one of the scouting report weaknesses that they have, and I'll just quote it straight from here, inconsistent run blocking intensity, despite his physical prowess, needs to bring more aggression and tenacity to his blocking assignments. And that's the thing. We're in this day and age of where you're going to have, where we're starting to see smaller and kind of, and cornerbacks that are on the skinnier side. And obviously you could say the same thing about the receivers,

but we're kind of seeing it more on the cornerback end and so for a guy like Keon Coleman he should be able to dominate in that realm just based on size alone but when you got an absolute dog on the other side that ends up showing more aggression and I'm not going to comment on Keon Coleman's heart but we'll just throw it out there as more aggression and maybe more heart than Keon Coleman he not going to comment on Keon Coleman's heart, but we'll just throw it out there as more aggression and maybe more heart than Keon Coleman. He's going to get cooked every single time on the outside runs. Yeah. Fair.

Adam, what do you got? Yeah. Well, I think as far as overrated goes um i mean i gotta piggyback off of keon coleman yeah i think coleman is he doesn't have good speed and yeah he's fast in route running, but you still need to make sure that you're getting open. And I just don't think that's a quality that really translates into the NFL.

So Coleman, we're really picking on Coleman here, but mean he's I mean he has draft bus written all over it I mean we look at not just Coleman but we also look at Quentin Johnson we look at Nikhil Harry before him they're all players who have the same kind of play style but it just didn't translate into the NFL it's really going to be no different here with Coleman and he's going to end up being a late first round pick wouldn't it be hilarious if he goes to the Bills and they think they drafted the very next Stefan Diggs boy would that be would that be a massive mistake and I hear so much from Bills fans we'll just draft another guy we'll be okay Stefan Diggs sucked he was bad

oh yeah okay be careful what you wish for you just traded away your all pro caliber uh wide receiver and stefan digs so that'll be fun to see i love how we just went on a little keon coleman trash sesh for like five minutes there that was that was pretty cool wasn't even what didn't even do anything he's probably a nice guy but for yeah for a kid that's supposed to be going second round or mid round you'd probably expect more or early second round i should say it's a maybe third round you'd expect something a little bit more than that um and this could potentially be a guy that slides to maybe even the fourth and fifth round just based off of those intangibles alone

i don't know about that but you never know yeah no i agree the thing is though when you look at some of the guys that could go in the first round, just Marvin Harrison Jr., Malik Nabors, Roma Dunze, Brian Thomas Jr., Adonai Mitchell, and even some of these later guys like, perhaps, Xavier Leggett, I've seen once or twice, Troy Franklin, Ladd McConknie, Xavier Worthy. Just Keon Coleman sticks out like a sore thumb everybody that i just mentioned i would take over keon coleman and i just i don't know like i just these big receivers that aren't fast and don't really sweat we're out running but they're just the 50 50 ball guys i think it may or may not be time to put that experiment to bed.

Because, like, it's one thing if he's fast or not fast, but is a good route runner and can go up for those 50-50 balls, and it's just an absolute beast. But if we're going to compare, like, receivers with big frames to Calvin Johnson, Randy Moss and, and guys like that who actually had super freak speed. It's, it's not going to happen.

Cause like we were just saying, if you're going to be a guy that's supposed to be an outside threat, then you kind of have to have the speed for an outside threat, but he kind of lacks that. Yeah. All right. Well, since I want to get away from,

I want to get away from him right now. Since we've been kind of harping on him a lot. Is there another receiver that we think from this class that we think it can be overrated or considered overrated obviously we're just saying with the offensive lineman kind of tough with draft but who is probably the most prone to being that type of guy besides keon colton adam you have something to say well i mentioned him as my one of my first wide receivers who i liked but i still think he's overrated because i only want him in day two i think xavier worthy he's a player who's big who's

draft stock again i think he's going to be a little overdrafted and i i hope he isn't but he's a player who has good vertical speed but has terrible hands that's something that i worry about a little bit we're not looking for track athletes here we're looking for wide receivers nfl players how good are you in your route running do you have a good route running do you have a good route tree sure you can outrun you can outrun a player by running straight in a straight line, but a lot of players, like anybody can do that. I wouldn't say anybody. Being fast is still a good quality.

We're not doing track meets. We're doing NFL games. We're talking about Super Bowl victories here. And Xavier Worthy is a great athlete, and this is a guy who has kind of a limited route tree. And I think he has some upside, but he's got to work on those hands. And I think this guy is, I'm worried that this guy goes in round one. I like him in round two, but that's all I like him as, as a high upside player where maybe you can coach him into out of some of the issues that he has, but I don't,

I don't, it looks like his draft is being overblown in the same way. John Ross was. Yeah, that was something I really didn't want to bring up, but yeah, like John Ross, Tavon Austin guys that show obviously Tavon Austin, not as fast as John Ross and Xavier Worthy.

But, you know, it's we're talking about guys that showed off some really good speed and had a lot of promise. Yeah, it's John Ross definitely comes up as one of those names, to say the least. So the thing with Xavier Worthy is that in the first round, I wouldn't hate him like going to Kansas City at like pick 32. I mean, granted, I don't want him in Kansas City, but you know what I mean. I wouldn't hate him at like pick 32, like pick 30 to the Ravens, like absolute like tail end of the first round is the absolute highest I'll go but there have been some whispers that maybe just maybe

he's earned a spot mid first round and my answer is uh no did we learn nothing from John Ross yeah yeah that's a sad thing and let's see what his comparisons are looking like right now i actually didn't even look at it player comparisons uh marvin mims jr uh jordan addison and charlie jones jordan lies he is not he is not jordan not jordanison, and I hesitate to call him Charlie Jones. You can take that up with NFL Draft Buzz on that one. But to their credit, they said 69%, nice for Jordan Addison, so for the similarity. And in terms of Mims and Jones, Mims is only 73%. Jones is also at 69%. So it's not like we're talking about

that they're the exact same player here. Yeah. He's another player you can look at is potentially Darnell Mooney, a player who's a... And for Darnell Mooney, I think that's a very realistic outcome for him. That would be the best case scenario. A player who's maybe not a number one wide receiver, but he could be a low-end two, high-end three, who is an elite deep threat and can easily get open. The issue would be whether or not he could catch it once the ball gets to him. And if he can stay healthy. Darnell Mooney has had issues in the past with health and

speed is very precious in this league. I'm not trying to downplay his speed because that's still an important, it's a very important quality to have in the NFL, especially if you're a wide receiver, but it goes away fairly fast. So if you're relying on your speed, maybe you'll pan out for a little bit, but if you face the injury bug, God forbid, that could be a problem. And once that speed goes away, that speed that you were relying on, you're going to be out of the league very fast.

Yeah, and that's the other thing too. You look at some of the other measurables here, 21st percentile for hands. We were talking about his size, obviously 5'11", 165. That's bottom of the pack, whatever. But in terms of vertical, broad jump, 10-yard dash, it's all above 95%. So this kid is an athlete in his own right, but is that going to translate from the speed demon in the college game

over at Texas where he's got Quinn Ewers throwing to him to pros where, I mean, granted, don't really know. It's a toss up of where he could end up going. But say he goes to a shitty team, then is that going to be able to translate where he can be that show-stopping wide receiver. And you guys mentioned he could maybe be a good two or three, and that's kind of what you might end up getting with more of these guys that are outside the top ten. Maybe you're not expecting Xavier Worthy to be a number one target, right? Maybe you're more expecting him to be that number three slot guy. Yeah.

Yeah, that's kind of what you're looking for, sort of that guy who can kind of your – another comp would be a Marcus Valdez-Scantling. So MVS is the type of player who is useful on a team but he's also not imperative to have right he's probably number three option your team probably isn't that good if you're a number two he's certainly not a one and if he is you're probably the bottom of the league um he's a 50 50 ball in the sense where not in the sense that the ball is close to the defender and you need to run up, reach up and catch it. It's quite literally 50, 50 on whether or not

he's going to catch the ball because the guy has some major issues with catching. Um, Aaron Rogers and Patrick Mahomes can tell you all about that. Um, a guy, he is, but he's a good vertical threat and he catches some big, big deep balls. You could see all throughout his highlight tape, he's catching some, he's catching from Aaron Rodgers some huge deep throws late in games. And I think there's some value in that so if Xavier Worthy becomes that that's great I just hope that this isn't a guy teams are

investing a first round pick in because I don't think he's worth that no you do have a good point it's just that when people see speed they get so dazzled and like i said there are teams like kansas city you know guys like the tail end of the draft that i think can get away with it perhaps like baltimore if that is the route they wanted to go but i don't know it's just calling some of these receivers overrated aside from keon coleman is so hard because i liked somewhat basically every receiver that's going in the first round it does seem like most of these guys are pretty properly rated and really the top four guys are going to be the top four guys most likely like marvin harrison neighbors o'dunzi brian thomas like though

like those are very like those are set in stone gonna be your top four guys and then once you get to uh number five and onward that's where that's where the real conversations really start up at that point of who's properly rated in this class. Oh, is this guy really the fifth ranked receiver? Is Adonai Mitchell really the number five guy? Is Xavier Leggett, should he be ranked higher? Because, you know, Mitchell is a guy that is, his average position rank is seven.

Or Leggett, he's currently ranked eighth on the NFL draft buds and he's, and his average is 12 or Keon Coleman. His average is five and he's currently ranked ninth on NFL draft buzz. And based on our conversations already, it seems that he shouldn't even be in the top 10 to begin with. No, no, he should not. I'll tell you this much though um out of the top three marvin harrison jr i think if if we have any objections to marvin harrison jr being the top wide receiver in this draft say i i don't know why he would cool just make sure because there's

some of those like smokescreen reports where it's like, oh, this team has Malik Neighbors or Romo Dunze number one. It's like they're just trying to be different for the sake of being different. Yeah. Right. Between Romo Dunze and Malik Neighbors, I take a Dunze. I think he's the more complete wide receiver.

Just the fact that I'm not saying that neighbors can't play on the outside, but just the fact that he's only used out there, and that is where he's put for the most part. I think Odunze is the player who is a little more complete. I think he is Marvin Harrison Jr. light in the sense that he can do it all. And I think he is the slam dunk number one wide receiver coming out of this draft. I still think Neighbors is going to be a number one, but I think Odunze is going to be better. And if Marvin Harrison Jr. doesn't pan out in the sense, in any sense of the word,

let's say he's just a little worse than we expected him to be. I think that's going to mean Odunze is going to be the best wide receiver to come out of this draft. But that's only if he doesn't, if he fails to live up to expectations, which all three of us believe that harrison jr is going to be the best guy yeah the thing though with neighbors is just that like you mentioned like the fact they exclusively use him in a slot is very concerning whereas i mean in comparison to a dunes there you can pretty much just like plug and play him anywhere. I think that Neighbors has the ability to be explosive. He just needs a lot more refining. Whereas I would say a Dunzay

is a little more polished. I think that all three of them are going to be good. It's just there's varying levels of NFL readiness. In terms of NFL readiness, I think we're at a good spot to call it a day on this one, unless you guys got anything else to add around the league. We're at that point of

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