The Fumblerooski Podcast - Bruised Egos -Ep 438 The Fumblerooski Podcast

Episode Date: March 31, 2026

On today's episode, the NFL has started the process of looking for replacement refs again amid CBA negotiations with the NFLRA. Who’s in the right between these two sides? Chris Costich, Justin Tucker, and CJ Medeiros talk all this and more!

On today's episode of the Fumble Ruski podcast, the NFL has begun to seek replacement referees. Unbelievable. General NFL news as well, along with rumors with the fact that the Rams, we're actually looking to move Devante Adams, along with other things that Sean McVeigh decided to leak to the press during the league annual meeting. All that and more. This is the Fulmolruski podcast. I have always showed it in the stat sheet, but you can see him making throws when he needs to make the throws. Back-to-back games where he has three touchdowns. Someone's got to get that six or seven spot.

He's an elite wide receiver as a rookie. Truly a lose-lose scenario for both sides. Welcome to the Fumblerusky podcast by Power 88Dien Radio and Secret Weapon Consulting. I'm Chris Kostitch. We got C.J. Bendiros. We got Justin Tucker, the euse for today. How's you guys this weekend? It's been all right.

Can't complain too much. Yeah. It's fine. Yeah. Did you say that, Yukon game? I was in the car for it. I was on my way back up from Yale and saw the text messages.

I was like, you got to be shitting me. I miss this. It went from the up one to down to so fast. And on 0.3 seconds, I'm like, no. both Duke teams are out and then having the last name Boozer doesn't help either because of how good of a player

your brother is. Yeah. Yeah, no, that's rough. And I saw a lot of, you guys remember the, Texas, it was the Texas A&M U and I game from like, I forget when it was like 2017,

2018. That was a lot. There was a lot. of comparisons to that one. But like, I think this one takes the cake considering that that, like the Texas A&M, you and I game was like around a 64 matchup. This game was to go to the final four.

Yeah. Like, now granted, you and I also came back down like 10 points in the final like 30 seconds of the game too to even complete that comeback. They're both insane in their own right. Let's just say that. You know what was really insane, though? Do you see who cut down the net for Arizona? I didn't know.

Oh, Bryce? Yeah, Bryce James. For those of you don't know, LeBron's son, Bryce, as on the Arizona Wildcats, and they let him cut down the net after advancing to the final four. And I look at this, and I'm like, yeah, do you mean the dude that played a grand sum of zero minutes? Damn, LeBron's checks must have cleared to you A, man.

That's just how it is. Hey, as long as the checks clear, they can do whatever they want. They're still winning. may not be saying floor, but they're still winning. Yeah, there's a chance that you see some floor next year. Maybe he gets some burn next couple of years. Hopefully he does, because one of the two has to be successful here. I mean...

No, I don't. Yes. They don't. It seems Bryce is actually going to go, like, the full, potentially the full four years, which I would actually kind of enjoy. I don't do that more on basketball now, man. Like, we got to have that. No more one year.

wonders, man. Let players establish legacies. That's not going to happen. Yes, I know that. I didn't say it was, but I said it should. I mean, look at Alex Caraband over at Yukon, Southborough guy.

That's a four-year guy. Winning, most winningest winningest player in in Yukon history. Really? Including men's and women's? Well, I don't know about women's, but I would assume men's is what they were referring to. Okay.

I was about to say because UConn's been pretty dominant as of late. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I mean, especially the women's team. I mean, they've been dominant for the last 30 fucking years. And they're probably, and they're undefeated right now. I'm probably going to win it again. Unless someone can stop them.

But we'll see. We'll see how that plays. All right. Out of football. Uh, Well, when I was 11 years old, I never really thought that replacement referees would ever be a thing. I, you know, when you're 11 years old, you economy, money, that's all just a myth to you at that point. You don't really understand CBAs and all that other junk.

And you see replacement referees and you're like, well, this sucks. And boy, did it really suck. Watching ball at 11 years old and seeing some of the most heinous. shit you've ever seen. After that, I'd never thought I would ever actually see it again. And now I'm 25 years old saying that the NFL has begun seeking replacement referees amid tensions between the league and the NFL RA. Unbelievable.

Unbelievable. So the NFL owners are alarmed by the state of negotiations with the NFL Referees Association and have authorized staff members to begin hunting. hiring and onboarding replacement officials in the coming weeks. Basically, started compiling a list of college level officials to recruit earlier this month. And owners are expected this week to approve a sweeping set of replay enhancements to support the replacement officials in preseason regular games.

And a league source said that training of the new replacement officials will begin May 1st. and this is all basically because the NFL CBA with NFLRA expires on May 31st. And, well, there is, there's been no real movement at all. Either side is willing to move. Basically, during the last lockout, which was in 2012 when I was 11 years old, a league source said the league's mistake was waiting until July to prepare for replacement official. So this is, so keeping with, let's save the harsh ridiculousness in, in tormenting the league in NFL, R.A. for letting it get to this point for a moment. But at the very least, they're taking the necessary steps to prepare themselves.

God forbid that they actually need to use these replacement referees and actually getting them adequately prepared because let's be for real. they were pulling high school officials and science, fucking science teachers to do these games. And it was the most ridiculous thing you ever saw in your life. Like everyone obviously remembers the failed Mary, and that was like the pinnacle of replacement referees. And I'm pretty sure like the next week, they figured out a new CBA for the NFLRA.

And we never saw the replacement reps again. Shit, never mind. that like something that was that's a little bit lesser known is uh the sunday night game between the ravens and uh the patriots that same season and i think it was like the week prior um to the fail mary where uh shout out tory smith he he bawled out for his little brother that day by the way um but it looks like it looks like it looks like it. The lesser known part of the replacement refs was this game, and it was because it came down to a last second field goal from then rookie,

Justin Tucker. And the controversy with that game was that Justin Tucker, so he hits the game winning field goal, but it almost looked like that he actually missed it, because the way that the ball traveled was basically almost parallel with the freaking goalposts. on the top. Almost.

And you could debate that it was really a mess. And then you had the infamous scene of Bill Belichick grabbing the referee's arm, like, what the fuck? Like, can you at least take a peek at this or talk about this? And the replacement reps were like, nope, we're getting the fuck out of here. Nope. Not dealing with this. Yep. Only reason why I bring that up, obviously, because we're Pat's fans and Ravens fans.

fans here. Yes. But yeah. I can't believe it has gone to this point once again. Like, I just can't believe it. I really can't. Like, on the one hand, referees face more scrutiny now than ever before.

But at the same time, I can't believe that with the shit job that they've done in the last three years, that it had, like that they're asking for way more money than what they've been getting. It's unfortunate. It really is. This whole thing has been ridiculous. According to sources, the NFL has offered the NFLRA six-year deal that averages annual

raises of 6.45%. The average NFL official earned $385,000 in 2025. And the league has also pushed the end. NFL RA to also allow several fundamental changes to officials' job structure, which the NFL RRA has largely resisted. Measures, they are alarmed that the union has resisted the performance and accountability measures. The measures include increasing the probationary period for new officials from three to five

years, shortening the dead period during the offseason to allow for more training, including a requirement for lower performing officials to work spring football games to help improve their performances and reducing the seniority-based approach to covering playoff games and largely replacing it with assignments based on performance. So basically, it sounds like what they're trying to do is almost like what the MLB does in terms of scheduling the umpires because what the MLB does is what they actually do it correctly and they actually do schedule the best umpires for these games for their playoff games whether they actually do a good job or not the fact of the matter is they actually get uh like they actually

get rewarded for their performance rather in this case for the NFL the last however many years basically since the end of time or beginning of time it has these referees that get to do the Super Bowl it's because they've been in the game they've had skin in the game

for as long as they've had it is all seniority which is why a lot of times you end up getting calls in the playoffs where you're like what the fuck happened what the fuck was that so

yeah I see both sides Yeah, referees could potentially make more money, but like I said, the way that these games have been officiated the last, pretty much since I got into college, has been so absolutely heinous that these referees don't deserve a raise more than 385,000. Shit, they should be getting paid less for this horseshit. But at the same time, they do face a ton of scrutiny. like these guys are humans too and never mind NFL refs umpires NBA reps

NFL refs everybody has faced more scrutiny now than they have ever before thoughts from you guys where do we even begin with this I can understand from both sides of things and why we're kind of stagnating

I understand the referees association of trying to get more money because if they see the NFL those money go up and they're still at the same spot. Of course, they're going to try to fight for more money. So it makes sense from the referee association standpoint to always try to negotiate themselves from more money. And we saw what happened the last time we went through this and how awful it was, especially

with the fail, Mary. And so they kind of believe they have leverage to get away with this in the NFL's like, you're not getting away with this time. So I think sooner or later it will come to an agreement even if it might take a while. But by the same token, I understand the NFL's reasoning. Like, you guys have not been doing well enough to be asking for this raise. Like, slow down a minute. Some of the owners are like, some of these calls have actively screwed over my team.

What makes y'all think you guys deserve any of this money? So is it a little bit of an ego thing on both sides? Yes. Is understanding on both sides? Yes, but I think there may be an increase, but not as much as the referees are asking for. Because I don't think the owners are willing to pay them that much because they're petty.

Let's just face it, owners can be a bit petty. And overall, it might take a while for this to get handled, but I think it will get handled sooner or later. Yeah. C.J. Is it possible that you're underselling it? Because especially I think you guys aren't. These people, they don't deserve this money.

And whether you are a player, owner, executive, or fan, hell, even if you're Commissioner Goodell, you've got to look these people in the eye and say, where the hell do you get off demanding any sort of money? You are not worth it. You do not deserve it. And I'm just going to come out and say it, right? 2003, well, let's take that season.

Let's take a step back here. Was probably the worst officiated football season I've seen in my entire life. And I said at the time, and I think I'd probably even said it on the show, I don't think it's going to get much worse than that. Oh boy, oh boy, I sure was wrong.

Because 2024 was horrific. And then last season, 2025, was the most horrifically officiated football season I've ever seen. It continually gets worse. Every time you say, it's not going to get worse. It does. It's almost like they're laughing at you. It's almost like that they try to on up themselves and how horrible they are.

And it gets to the point where obviously people say, oh, the league is scripted anyway. We have to remember the reps are kind of their own thing. So if there is any kind of script, it's not what the league's pushing. The refs would have their own agenda, which you can think of that what you will. I personally err on the side of that's not true, but whatever. But, I mean, if someone were getting kickbacks, it wouldn't shock me. But let's talk about what we do know. the current structure of you get playoff games and possibly the Super Bowl by seniority.

No, that's horrific. That's actually like objective. That is objectively the wrong way to go about it. You cannot favor seniority over performance. And do you know why the reps are upset? Here's the real kicker. The reps aren't upset because they want more. money and they're not getting it, they're upset because the league is finally taking steps to

hold them accountable. And the reps do not want accountability. The money is one thing. They want to continue to operate with impunity and they want to continue to be untouchable. And the league's finally putting their foot down and saying, no, your performances on Sundays and, you know, occasionally Mondays and Thursdays does not warrant you. you getting any sort of perks. Like you guys said, they should be making less money. And when you look at the,

and when you look at these reps, right, and I want to take you back to the 2019 season, that was the season that made me realize these refs don't deserve Jack. These are legitimately bad people I think we're dealing with. And I'm not going to sugarcoat it. I think these are objectively not good people, these reps. And the reason I say that,

and like I said is because of what happened of the 2019 season where the NFL created a rule that said you could challenge past interference. Remember that? And approximately 24% of the rulings were reversed. 24%? That's incredible considering I thought it was 0%. I never in my life saw a single DPI get overturned. It was 24 of 101 challenges.

But yeah, I don't know. Well, it's not just overturned. It's implemented, too. Like, the call had to be overturned. Yeah, that's why I mean it's like the, I don't think I ever saw a single one get overturned. A lot of it, it's just pure arrogance on their end. They knew they got it wrong and they didn't want to overturn it. And they were hesitant to reverse calls. And it was literally just out of their own ego. And do you know what the worst part is? I don't have it in front. of me and I've been trying to find it, right? I've really been trying to like find this. There was a study that I saw about a month ago where a bunch of independent former officials went to some institute and they sat down and reviewed every penalty and saw that the number

of reverses probably should have been well north of 50. They actively sabotage this rule. The rules implemented. The refs through a major league temper tantrum. They went into that season kicking and screaming and they went out of their way to kill that rule. So once again, when I said, these are objectively not good people we're dealing with, I rest my case.

They literally killed a rule they did not like. And you know what I say? Now that the league has its head screwed on right. and they are actually going to train these replacement rafts and it's not being left to the last minute and how there's a plan. You would I say, call the ref associations bluff.

Say, all right, you know what? Let's roll with the replacement raft. Because now there's a plan. Do I think it's going to be as bad as 2012 through 13? No, I don't. I genuinely do not believe it is going to be as bad. And honestly, you have to smoke them out. with these reps. You have to just wait them. You're just going to say, you know what? No, no, no, no, no, no,

no money for you. There will be a big waiting period. And I believe that they should just let them suffer and say, you know what, let's see how long you can last without your money. I mean, a lot of them do other jobs in the daytime. It's like, all right, well, then go do that. You're not getting your little side hustle here. And we will not pay you because, like I said, they don't deserve to be paid. Go with the replacement reps because I will tell you one thing. And I know I've said it before, but I really don't think it can get that much worse. Especially if these guys, you know, are a lot of them being college reps that are being trained. And now they have an actionable strategy, you know, to actually get them up to speed and knowing what to look for for this upcoming season.

Yeah, I would say do it. And if it fails, yeah, that sucks. but you can't let the officials put you over a barrel. You just can't. It's high time they were knocked down a peg. And after they literally went out of their way to sabotage a former rule, that's when you have to pull out every trick that you have to make sure that these people never get any sort of advantage over you again.

Yeah. I think CJ makes a great point that this is all really just that the refs have found that their that their blanket of cover is finally uh is finally going like the mlb is actually silently like holding their umpires accountable yeah with the aBS system like i don't know if you guys saw the the socks game from a sunday but you know c b buckner worst up ever since angel hernandez left or retired c buchner worst umpire in the league uh But he deliberately made the Red Sox lose that game. Now the offense was cold.

I'm not going to put it completely on CB. But he didn't help. Like there was, like there was some ABS challenges where like it was a borderline miss like by a seam. But then there's like misses where it's like three inches off the plate. Like I remember like part of the game that I actually watched. it was like they challenged a one or it was saturday actually not uh not sunday but so they challenged a pitch called it a call it a strike or a ball or whatever it was a borderline pitch abs overruled it or confirmed it one of the two and then fucking sunny gray fires a strike

three inches outside the zone for strike three throws a pitch three is outside the zone for strike three and the reds don't even challenge it for some reason they would have gone and overturned i don't know why they didn't challenge it but you think you would challenge that yeah but it was like it was one of those things where like the pitches kept getting challenged and c buchner you could tell was getting more and more and more pissed off and he took it out on the players and it's like dude you need to be fired you do not like guys like him guys like that around the league do not deserve a job. And there's more like that too.

I mean, the NBA has obviously has the problem with it. Like they literally, now granted, they also schedule refs that are known to be the extender, Scott Foster. But it's just ridiculous. And people have been calling for

more accountability for these referees for God knows how long now. And, well, we finally have come to the pinnacle of it where these leagues are finally doing it. And lo and behold, these egomaniacs, it's funny, it's funny how players and coaches are perceived as the ego maniacs. Referees are the biggest ego maniacs of them all. I'm sorry, but they are. Speaking of umpires, during the twins orioles game, we actually had an injection that revolved around the ABS system. Oh, really?

Yeah, that actually did happen. Tell me more. The Orioles won, but during the game, the Twins manager got ejected because he was arguing about the ABS. He was arguing with the umpire about the ABS system. And he was like arguing with the robots because the ABS system said one thing and umpire said another. and the umpire uh the umpire ejected the twins because manager because he kept one trying to argue this and umpire said nope why he was trying to argue that a b the abs call like was he trying to tell the umpire he was a fucking idiot or something like he was telling the umpire that he was wrong and the abs system was right and the empire wasn't hearing like something along those lines and the umpire just ejected him and that caused a problem So did the umpire not overturn his call with the ABS?

No, the empire didn't overturn his call. I believe it still stood. I'm not sure off the top of my head whether he was right or wrong. My thing was he ejected the Twins manager, and Twins manager got very mad about that. Interesting. Because Alex Cora got tossed on Saturday. It was because C.B. Buckner wrung up Trevor Story on a check swing, which he didn't go around on all.

and normally when it's something like that you ask for help from first or third base umpire and he didn't ask for help at all so story's about to lose his fucking mind which Trevor Story losing his mind is like you gotta really do something that really piss off Trevor Story

and then Alex Corr is like fuck this I'm getting rung up and he did oh by the way I found the exact number right oh yes the NFL reviewed 101 calls right Okay.

And overturned 24. Yeah. The independent study showed that there were 50 more calls that they were, that were judged incorrectly. So like I said, so we're looking at 24% of 24, you know, 24 of 1001, a little under 24, you know, because it doesn't quite. So yeah. So that is 50 more that were judged. So meaning we should have had 74 out of 101 overturns. That's almost three quarters.

So, yeah, if you needed any more proof that they got it wrong and they really bungled this and probably did it maliciously, there you go. The fact that they misjudged an extra 50 is that's heinous. And honestly, people should have been fired. Like, head should have rolled for this. Like, get them out. These are clearly bad actors that do not want to do remotely anything in good faith. Yeah. just wrap this up.

Sources have said that a lockout is more than likely going to happen at this rate. Shocker. Which obviously is why the league has gone out and found the replacement reps and whatnot. A source said, we are so close to expiration and so far apart on economics that unless an act of God gets involved. Oh. Yeah. Sounds rough. Yeah, very rough.

All right. We're going to take a quick break when we come back. We're going to get into the rumor mill and just some general news as well. This is the Fulmariski podcast. It may not have always showed it in the stat sheet, but you can see him making throws when he needs to make the throws. Back-to-back games where he has three touchdowns. Someone's got to get that six or seven spot. He's an elite wide receiver as a rookie.

Truly a lose-lose scenario for both sides. Welcome back to the Fulmurski podcast. Let's get into the rumor mill. I love this. So I don't know if you guys remember the There's a couple of weeks ago. I'm not talking to you too. I'm more talking to the listeners.

But I don't know if you guys remembered our conversation from a couple weeks ago and it was around the time where FreeHC was obviously high. And there was the rumor mail going on about AJ Brown, no big surprise. And the Rams and the Patriots were the top two bidders. Now, this has been kind of an underlying conversation we've had since then. But one of the things that we talked about was, wow, the Rams were in the race to potentially get A.J. Brown. They would have had to, the only way out or the only way this would have happened is if they had the very least sent Devante Adams.

Well, lo and behold, Sean McVeigh today said the Rams were in fact exploring the option of trading Devante Adams, but ultimately decided it wasn't best for the team. Now it's straight from McVeigh during the league meetings on Monday.

Devante Adams signed a two-year deal with the Rams last year, March, 24, or March of 25, I should say. And led the league in receiving touchdowns this past year, despite missing three games. And that's the other thing is that because it's a two-year deal, this is the last year of Devante Adams contract.

So it would make sense that they were going to be looking to potentially move them for assets. I mean, they could potentially move them again. at the deadline, depending on how the team is looking. But very, very interesting considering, you know, that we had kind of inferred that this was really the only possibility, and here we are three, four weeks later. And it was true that Devante Adams was most likely going to be involved in a trade for AJ Brown. obviously it didn't happen and well, lovely enough considering as well

the lawsuit that was filed against Pooka and Kua which Sean McVeigh also actually addressed it on Monday today. Whatever. Saying the team has been aware of the incident since it happened on New Year's Eve and that they are continuing

to gather all the information but man, you guys know I trust this kid heart love them put your arm around and want to continue to help him grow and really get all the appropriate facts before I kind of rush to judgment on that particular situation yeah

but yeah Devante Adams almost very very close to being a Philadelphia Eagle maybe oh man imagine Devante Adams on the Eagles with Jalen Hertz and Devante Smith

and Saquan Barkley and his prime, I'd think that'd be, that'd be an amazing tandem and a very good offense. But I don't know. Who would be the Y receiver two in that equation? If A.J. Brown was on the Rams. If DeVonte Adams was on the Eagles. I had to say Devante or Devanta Smith. Really?

Yeah. I mean, really like it doesn't really fucking matter because they would have just handed the ball off to Sequeon. two times in a row and just and then just try to throw a deep ball to De Monte Adams per usual. But, but oh no, I think it was best for the Eagles for this trade not to happen. I think it was good for them because, quite frankly, I don't trust that offense, even if they trade A.J. Brown away for Devonte Adams.

Even if you think it's just a straight swap plus something, it's like, no, it's not worth it. This offense is a mess right now. And taking away a very valuable asset, a younger asset than Devante Adams. Like, no, that makes no sense. If I'm the Eagles, I'm keeping him. And if I'm the Rams, and I just made it aware to Devonthe Adams that, yeah, we were trying to trade them, I might, if I'm DeVante Adams, I might be walking around eggshells around the Rams right now.

Because, like, you guys just tried to trade me away, even though I just led the league in touchdowns. in receiving touchdowns. Like, I don't know. See, Jeff? This doesn't shock me that the trade didn't go through. It really doesn't. Because I ran out a report at what point on the show that literally said the Eagles were really hesitant, borderline,

not even wanting to deal Devante Adams to an NFC team. So if it really was the Rams and the Patriots and the running for AJ Brown, then obviously the Rams would have had to offer a lot more. I'm probably thinking in the ballpark of Devante Adams and probably a first. Oh, yeah, 100%. But I don't know. But first, the 2027 first? Because they don't have the 2026.

Yes, they do. They still have Atlantis. Oh, yep, yep. I forgot about, damn it, Atlanta. Yeah, I know. They're a funny organization. But honestly, yeah, that makes sense. I mean, who else was it going to be?

I mean, I doubt it was going to be Puka. He was their number one. I mean, Adams, I think they would probably just go off lower the second year of his deal. You know, now I have to worry about resigning him, get a guy, someone younger and healthier in AJ Brown. But, yeah, I'm just wondering. how this is going to impact Devanti Adams, like you said, Tuck, I would imagine he's going to be a little iffy towards them now, and understandably so.

But if you're the Rams, you might be in some dangerous waters here because you better hope that Devante Adams trusts you still, because if he doesn't and you have Kukunakua behaving in a very inappropriate manner, we'll call it. You might be in a little bit of trouble here. Yeah. Yeah, a little bit.

Other NFL rumors, Kirk Cousins was named as a potential backup for the Rams. This was also part of things that Sean McVeigh decided to share on Monday. He was a very open book, to say the least. So one of the things that, that was basically said in this article from Nick Shook around the NFL writer. Matthew Stafford is back after an NFL MVP season in 2025 and is entrenched as the starter, but the Rams backup situation is quietly lingered as one of the more fascinating items on the offseason agenda across the league.

Might Jimmy Garoppolo return to reprise his role as Stafford's understudy? Could McVeigh and general manager Les Sneed look elsewhere? The answer is yes to both. It includes the addition of another interesting name, Kirk Cousins. McVeigh told reporters the Rams are looking at both Garoppolo and Cousins for their backup job, an unusually candid admission made by a coach of a team that has neither under contract. And he said, hey, I'd love to have Jimmy Garoppolo back with us. McVeigh said to per the team's website, that's a big deal for us.

he's earned the right to be able to take his time and do whatever he wants. Is there an opportunity to explore? If it's not Jimmy, like Kirk Cousins, of course, I'd love to be able to be able to see what that looks like. So those are two guys we've talked about. And Sean McVeigh, well, he was the offense coordinator for Kirk Cousins, Dan in Washington from 2014 to 2016. Yep. So it would make sense. It would make sense.

it just depends on what Kirk Cousins believe he he still has left in the tank in store. If he still believes he can be a starter, which I would imagine that Kirk Cousins believes he's a starter as much as Joe Flacco still believes he's a starter. And, you know, probably the same thing with Jimmy Garoppolo. So we'll see how that plays out. But it could be interesting.

I mean, it's not like it's no worst idea to have someone like that back up for you. or back up Matt Stafford for you. It could be another like 49ers situation because it brought like Matt Stafford goes down like Brock Purdy. I could see someone like Kirk Cousins or Jimmy Gora. Jimmy G. Step in there and do the job.

That's not even my favorite nickname of Jimmy Gropolo. Yes. Yes. But oh no, I think Matthew Stafford did. It does have problems with his back because before the season he had that back injury. So all in all, I could see if something does happen to him and he goes down, they will need a competent quarterback in order to sustain the offense. Well, Matthew Stafford does get healthy.

So if they were to choose someone, I think wouldn't the cheaper option be Jimmy Goropolo instead of Kirk Cousins right now? Probably, yeah. Yeah, so either or is fine. but if you still think that Kirk Cousins still has like something left in the tank and is a better option than Jimmy Gropolo, I think you should go for it. I think Kirk Cousins still has something left in the tank based on his performances in Atlanta last season.

Yeah. C.J. Yeah, I mean, you guys pretty much hit on it. I feel like Kirk Cousins is going to want to go somewhere where he can compete for the starting job, though. You know, I can see him going to Arizona, speaking of the NFC West, but if I'm the Rams, you should probably just bring back Jimmy G. Yeah, maybe so.

Maybe that's just going to be the move after all. Just bring back Jimmy Garoppolo. Why not? He's younger. If we're going to pull that card, he is younger. Not by much, but still. I guess moving on to general NFL news, we can kind of just fire through this. Remember the Browns rule prozal to allow picks, pick trades five years out instead of three?

Yeah. They have now pulled that. Yeah, probably for the best. Yeah, that wasn't going to happen. Imagine trading five first round picks for a player. Only the Browns. It would be insane. Yeah.

Yeah. But it wouldn't be the Browns, though. I could see the Rams doing that. Yeah, true. Yeah. Yeah, that's really it. Apparently, other than that, John Harbaugh, open to a possible OBJ reunion with Giants. He's 33. Almost the last time OBJ played a snap. It's 2024 because he was in Miami. Yeah, I think so.

Yeah. It's been a while, and he is looking to come back, but I feel like OBJ coming. back to the Giants just doesn't have the same luster to it, you know? No. No, it doesn't. It doesn't have the same luster as it would of probably like five years ago. Yeah. Yeah.

There was one other thing, too, that I had in here. It was, what was it? What was it? There was something at the top of the moment. You're asking the wrong people were not in your mind. Actually, there was one last thing. And it was apparently Miles Garrett trade rumors came back up. And Andrew, his name.

Yeah. And let me try to find it real quick. It's not going to happen. Andrew Barry, the DM confirms they're not trading Miles Garrett after contract. Not happening. Yeah. I don't think so. No.

All right. Fake. It's Fugazi. Total fabrication. All right Time for some Immaculate Grid That's what I'm here for That's what I'm here for

Yeah Yeah I've had some buddies that are calling out CJ though They're wondering where his eyes are looking Proof her it didn't happen Of where your eyes are looking Or of the Who are these people?

I haven't met them Are you sure you're taking your meds? No, I'm I'm being truthful. I've had some friends tell me that CJ's not. Is it the same friends that called us sellouts for Kalshi? No. The one in question is not the same one.

Okay, so Miami, which one? Miami, Arizona would be what, Josh Rosen, but did he play for Miami? Yeah, pretty sure he did. Yeah,

he did. You guys remember that receiver, David Boston, I think he did as well. Yeah, I remember him playing for the Chargers. I don't remember him. No, he's not in Miami at the very, very end. He was kind of cooked ever since he left the Chargers.

He was kicked after he went to the Chargers. Yeah. But we have Cardinals, Dolphins, Cardinal Saints, Cardinal Falcons, Cowboy Dolphin, Cowboy Saint, Cowboy Falcon, and a dolphin that passed for 10,000-plus yards in his career, a saint and a falcon that has done the same. All right. A Miami Dolphin that's passed for 10,000 yards. Well, what about that?

There's, so obviously Marino's the most obvious. Tua, Ryan Tannahill. Did Bob Greeney do it? Or whatever's name is Greece. Greasy did pee. Greasy is a possibility. Because I feel like Tana Hill, Tua, and Marino are way too obvious, unless there's someone else.

I think there was someone like the early 2000s. What about Jake Cutler? No, no, no, no, no. It would have to be with the team. It says No, it's career. It's career. Yeah, but we've been burned on this before.

Fine. Let's try it greasy. 4%. 4%. You know, it's not terrible. The problem I have with the Saints here is that there's really, like, it's really arch, it's really Archie Manning and Drew Brees.

Those are really the only two guesses. Or like Aaron Brooks, maybe. Aaron Brooks, So, yes. But did he? Wait, what about Jim Everett? Did he do it, though? Was he dare long enough?

I honestly don't even know what Jim Everett is. He was the one that attacked Jim Rome. Come on. I, let's try it. 1%. How about that? Well, yeah, because the Saints only have, like, I think you covered it else.

Aaron Brooks, that's something I haven't heard in a while. Damn. All right. Falcons, 10,000 yards. It'd be Michael Vick, Matt Ryan, Kirk Cousins, if we're talking career. Matt Schaub. Matt Schaub was a Falcon at one point.

Matt Schaub. Is it career, though? Like, that's my problem. Like, is it actually career? I have to think it's got to be actually career. Because, like, Jim, like, did Jim Everett play for any other teams? Did George do it? Did Bobby?

Yep, George. No, but did he? Was he there long enough? Because he was a bit of a character. There was also that guy they had, who was the quarterback they had before Michael Vick? Because he was there for four years. I think he did it. What was his name?

It was the guy they had before Vic. How about the guy that they had in the Super Bowl? Yes. Something Chandler? Let me look up his name real quick. Falcons. Quarterback. Because Vic was drafted, I believe, in 2002.

Chris Chandler, yeah. For a while, yeah. Chris Chandler is the quarterback you're thinking of. Yeah, because I know he was there for like four or five years. Yeah. But did he do it, though? Because if not, then we would have to choose between Matt Ryan or Michael Vick. I think we're underestimating that, like, you could really get 10,000 plus passing yards in like three or four years.

years. Yeah, true. 4%. Okay. Yeah. I think we were really like overestimating how easy it actually is. Cowboys, Dolphins, Alan Hearns. Oh, that's huge, yeah. Say again? Alan Hurons.

Four. Dolphins, Cowboys. Peak. Six percent. Nice, nice. I always forget Alan Hearns was anywhere other than Jacksonville. Same. Same.

Um, let's see here. We could go. Hey, uh, didn't Ted Gin play for the cards too? Because you could go him for cards, dolphins. I'm going to say no. I'm going to say no. Wait, because where was he in between Miami and Carolina? I'm pretty sure.

I don't know. Ted Jen was also on the Saints. So I'm why don't we have four guesses left? What? Oh, it's I think it's because when I was typing Alan Hearns, I clicked enter way too quickly before it could even register

that I was looking for Alan Hearns. Chris. So that's my fault. Damn it. Our grid is fucked up. My bad. I'm Chris. That's it. That's the show.

See you all on Friday. We'll forgive you. We will forgive you. I'm looking hard right now. Falcons, Cowboys, well, Deion's Sanders. That's the most obvious. I'm having a tough time with the Saints and the Cowboys, though. that's why I'm yeah like there's not many like crossovers yeah I mean Cardinal Saints also Tyron

Matthew oh Card Saints you could go with Adrian Peterson yeah yeah you how obvious is that so I don't think that's very obvious to be honest that might be let's try it I told you I mean I highly doubt it obvious you can't blame me here you You can't. I doubt it's the most obvious, though. Because it would have to be Tyrone Matthew to be, I think Tyrone Matthew would be the most obvious. Would Robbie Anderson be the choice here for Dolphins, Cardinals? Yeah.

Oh, yeah. Or Robbie Chosen or Chosen Anderson, whatever his name is. Robbie Chosen, there we go. How about that? 8%. Wait, for Cards and Falcons. Do you remember Patriots legend? and it was a receiver.

Bird. Mere Bird? Yeah, because he came to us from the Cardinals. Then I remember I wanted him back on like a cheap deal, but then he went to the cards. I'm blanking on how to spell is. Gimeer Bird. Oh, yeah, there's Demer Bird.

Point nine, wow. Thank you, Patriots legend. Demer Bird. Yeah. Well, I guess pick your poison of what you guys think would be the easiest to get out here. But horrible. This is tough because there's obvious choices, but not ones that were all, like not ones that come to mind.

Falcons, Cowboys, and then Saints Cowboys. Saints Cowboys. Good God. I guess Andy Dalton, but that feels like a cop out. The right rifle. I mean. We're kind of getting short on time anyway. Yeah, true.

One. 51% 31% It's so over. The rarity is gone. We were doing so well, too. And then Adrian Peterson happened.

The rarity really gets shot up because of my blunder hitting the enter button too quickly. Yeah, true. We'll forget. I just put it in the on. Oh, so what is this? About Cowboy,

oh, yeah. What was that rarity? like 80. 74. Close enough. Yeah. Claas Campbell. All right for Falcons Cardinals.

Tyrone Matthew. I was right about that. Just Rosen was the obvious one. Yeah. Zach Thomas. And then, well, this is no big surprise. Marino, Breeze, and Matt Ryan. Branding Cooks, not surprising there.

Yeah. The people, the one that people had the most trouble on was Cardinals Falcons. Mm-hmm. So. Shocker. Shocker. Shocker. Not our best work, boys.

No, no. That's, uh, that's on me. That's on me. It's all right. All right. I really thought Adrian Peterson. I was hoping it wouldn't be super obvious, but. I was really thinking Adrian Peterson would be like sub 20.

I mean, I thought because a lot of people forget, like, yeah. I was so weird after he left the white. Vikings. Yeah, I know. That'll do it for us today. Thank you for tuning in to another Tuesday episode of the Fulburski podcast. We have a new episode coming out on Friday at 8 a.m. Be sure to subscribe to our YouTube channel. And we also have all our episodes available on all streaming platforms. Be sure to follow our Instagram, Fulberuski underscore podcast. Keep up with the pod and the latest coverage on the NFL. Otherwise, we'll see you on Friday over now.