The Fumblerooski Podcast - Choose Wisely -Ep 348 The Fumblerooski Podcast

Episode Date: March 26, 2025

Where does QB prospect Shedeur Sanders land in the 2025 NFL Draft? Is hype for QB Cam Ward becoming too much? Our LIVE REACTION to Russell Wilson signing with the Giants and Stefon Diggs signing with the Patriots, as well as how it impacts the NFL Draft order! Chris Costich and CJ Medeiros debate these topics and more!

Solidifying the number one pick. Did Cam Ward do that at Miami's Pro Day? We're here to talk about it. This is the Fumbaruski Podcast. It may not have always showed it in the staff sheet, but you can see him making throws when he needs to make the throws. Back to back games where he has three touchdowns. Someone's gotta get that six or seven spot.

He's an elite wide receiver as a rookie. Truly a lose-lose scenario for both sides This is the full Maruski podcast by power 80 18 radio in secret weapon consulting I'm Chris Gostich with me CJ Madero's get a little bit closer to draft time just inching a little bit closer Just a little bit You know, it's that time of the sports calendar where, you know, we're in March madness season at the moment. Baseball opening day is about to happen this week as well. You know, you also have the masters right after March madness ends.

And then just a couple of weeks after that, you got the NFL draft officially one month away. Miami's pro day just happened and cam ward talking with the NFL network said, I'm solidifying it today on being the number one overall pick. Also news came out via Adam Schepter Titans holding an additional private workout, uh, with cam ward. Titans of course, holding that number one overall pick so it seems that the Titans are

Gonna find their guy and replace will levis CJ mr. Draft guy what says you oh Just Look my fellow Americans I understand that quarterback is the most valuable position on the field many would say. I also understand that you know you need a franchise quarterback to win a Super Bowl. God are the days when an elite team can carry a so-so quarterback and win. Now it's gotta be an elite quarterback who can carry any kind of team it would see.

Give him a coaching or whatever. However, something I also understand is that this is not a great QB class. It's not. And Cam Ward is like, hey, hey kids, I'm Cam Ward. I'm gonna solidify me being the first overall pick. Look, dude, that's great.

And you're gonna make millions in the process. And I'm happy for him, I am. I'm just like, if you could go out there, get your money and regardless of how your career turns out, you are a first overall pick in a major sports league. No one can take that away from you. That's super. But good God, how much are we inflating

just the positional value of a quarterback to the point where Kam Ward, who when it comes based on prospects alone, more likely than not, isn't even a top ten prospect That's just that sucks, you know And if you're the Titans you really caught between a rock in a hard place Because let's just say if you're the Titans, right you actually do have your wits about you, right? And you realize and maybe we should trade back because you know

Even though it's not a great draft class in general, you can always get a haul for the first overall pick. That's just how it tends to be. Look at the Bears and the Panthers. You are correct. That's what I was thinking of. But there's a but here, boys and girls. It's I mean, even if you do figure this out, you also have to realize that other teams are just gonna take them right out for under you.

And just because you might not feel desperate, there are other teams that are, and there are other teams that are just gonna ruin everything. And I'm gonna be honest with you, Cam Ward, Willie, go number one overall, at this point in time, barring something major happening, it's more likely than not. But truth be told, I can just like off the

top of my head name five prospects I think are better than him. Travis Hunter, Abdul Carter, Mason Graham, Ashton Gentry, and Will Campbell. Like I said, right off the bat, those are already better prospects than Cam Ward. And honestly, I think I could probably name more. I think Calvin Banks is better. I would take James Pierce over him. I would take Malachi Starks over him, if I'm being real. Honestly, you could make an argument for cornered

Jaday Bar Baron, obviously, tight end Tyler Warren. Like, so yeah, so right off off the top of my head, linebacker, Jalen Walker also. So right off the top of my head, that's like 10 or 11 guys that I immediately think are better. It's just not a great QB class. And to do a quick recap, if you've listened to the show in any capacity thus far this year, you know what I think about Cam Ward. I think this is just an act. How we, this confidence is really insecurity. He got torn a new one after that stunt he pulled at the Pop Tarts Bowl, where he literally pulled an Anthony Richardson and subbed himself out. And his supporters will say, oh, but he doesn't want to get hurt. It's like, yeah, no, no, no, that's not the reason.

The dude was just done. That shows alarming lack of maturity and leadership. That was the real Cam Ward. And either way for Ward, I do in a way feel bad. He's gonna be a victim of his own success. Cause if you go number one, you are going to drum roll please the Tennessee Titans. You know, unless you trade up, you hold the number one overall pick for a reason. They were the worst team in the league last year, record wise at least, going three and 14.

You have the thoroughly uninspiring head coach, Brian Callahan, as your head coach who I'm sorry I just I don't like him I know and I feel like the Titans are really on their way just pushing Will Levis out the door I know there's a lot of chatter going into this next season about Levis had done enough to earn another year as starter which I say did we watch the same Will Levis? Because I'm going to be honest with you, I don't think we did. There was no inkling to me at least that would suggest that he's uh you know that he earned it. So, if you're the

the Titans, it's just in a rock. You're just, I mean, between a rock and a hard place and you know the Titans, it's just in a rock. You're just, I mean, between a rock and a hard place. And like it says right there, has been put up these banners. Three straight losing seasons since 2021. I mean, that really does suck, but I feel like Cam Ward's also going to an awful situation where he has Jack and Squat

in the way of weapons. I mean, don't get me wrong. The running game is gonna be good. You know, you got Tony Pollard and Taje Spears, I believe. That's a good running rectangle. Which I'll add too, like having a good running game is pretty beneficial for a rookie quarterback too. No, no, it is, it is.

It's just, can they really keep pace with the Texans of their division? No. Or what about- the can they really keep pace with the Texans of their division now or what about we're not jumping the gun but if Liam Cullen pans out as a coach and the Jaguars are easily going to leapfrog them. So I just I just

I I don't like where this is heading at all. And when it comes to Cam Ward strictly as a prospect, there is a lot to like. The potential is there, obvious, right? I mean, the release speed is great. He's a good improviser. He's a smart scrambler, meaning he's not looking to rip off the 50 yard gate every time.

Like he knows when to slide, he knows when to duck out of bounds, but ooh, I just think the weaknesses outweigh him. For example, we keep hearing about the booming arm that he has. He has no touch on the ball beyond 45 yards. It's just these rainbows, these lofters, these just ducks. Look, don't get me wrong, just because you have the arm strength to get it there,

that's good, but it doesn't mean you necessarily have the touch on the ball. He got bailed out by guys like Xavier Estrepo and Elijah Arroyo with all those 50-50 balls he threw. And if you're the Titans, do you have anyone that could do that unless Cheka Conquo becomes a top five Titan? My answer is no. And once again, I mentioned this before,

so I'm gonna really blaze through this. It's ball security, it's my issue. Eight fumbles last season. Eight. And on top of that, I don't think he can read a defense. But it's pre-snap because his game speed processing is actually pretty solid, right? He can diagnose soft spots and zone. He can anticipate where the corners are going to be. But that's great. But it's the pre-snap part, the actual cognitive awareness.

Because here's the thing, when you got the ball snapped, and Chris, I think you're a former quarterback, you can tell me, there's a difference between game speed processing and thinking on the fly versus actually sitting down before the snap and diagnosing a defense. Yeah. The thing is, it's the actual cerebral part of the game.

The actual diagnosing the defense is something where he really struggles. And when he has to go up against really complex looks, like other Power 5 schools and even ranked schools would throw at him, we definitely saw his mechanics break down and break down fast. I don't think he's ever beaten a ranked team. And I'm sorry, you can blame their head coach Mario Cristobal all you want. But I definitely think Ward gets some of that blame. definitely think Ward gets some of that blame. And once again, of course, that whole,

the Pop Tarts bowl exit, I just, that might be a, not just leadership, that might be an issue of drive too, but I digress. Yeah, I mean, obviously you have the main thing really being like, he's just trying to keep himself healthy for the NFL, but, you know, when, you mentioned being able to read a defense, you know, you also look at a guy like Patrick Mahomes. I'm not saying Cam Ward is going to be Patrick Mahomes, but Mahomes, when he

first entered the league, didn't know how to read a defense for the first year of his career and look at him now. He's one of the best quarterbacks in the league, granted to off seasons, but still the point being, you can develop that skill of being able to really defense throughout your career or early on in your career in the NFL. So I feel like that's not the biggest problem for him, unless it ends up being a problem in the case of like, he's not watching film. He's not actually trying to learn how to do this pretty specific skill that you're going to need to know how to do to have a lengthy career. But yeah, like you said, I think his decision making is good as well. 39 touchdowns led the ACC this past season. Right now, the Titans under contract Ridley, Okonkwo, Pollard, and Tai-Jay Spears look

like the Titans. You mentioned like, are they going to compete with the Texans of the world and potentially the Jaguars if Liam Cohen can figure it out in Jacksonville. Like I could have told you at the, like halfway through the season, this, this season that they're going to be fucked for the next two to three years. Like they're not going to be very competitive. Um, like they'll still compete with the teams and their division, but like, they're not going to do anything really.

They're just going to be a consistent like Top 10 maybe top 15 pick for next two to three years By the way, there is one thing one of your points that you made that I would really that I really want to address You mentioned about Patrick Mahomes can read a defense and two off seasons that problem was gone You mentioned about a patch my homes can read a defense and two off seasons that problem was gone Counterpoint he had he had any read us his head coach and no I was saying like he had two bad seasons Back to back is what I was saying not however, I

Just even if all the stars aligned for Ward My question is can he overcome Brian Callahan who who I know he was a first year head coach, but he definitely should have been fired. I don't know why he wasn't probably because the Titans are just a stubborn. He's also a defensive minded head coach. So that same logic. What? No, no, no, I'm or defensive minded head coach. He was the offensive coordinator for the Bengals.

My fault. I was thinking of McDonald. That's my bad. Oh, okay. I was thinking McDonald For some reason I was getting I've been getting Calhan McDonald mixed up for some reason. I don't know why We may never know the answer no one knows that's the phone but Then reverse what I was about to say, like then like having an offensive mind guy does help in that regard. And but the problem is that we're also dealing with like the duality of man, Andy Reed compared to Brian Callahan. So yeah.

And look, I don't even care that he was really offensive player of the year in the ACC because Miami didn't even go to the playoffs. Yeah, I guess I always off its plate, but so I guess that's just my arguments. So, and they didn't even go to the playoffs. They couldn't be any ranked teams. I just also don't be shocked if crystal Ball, the head coach gets fired too. Because he and Ward went to that same fraud factory. And that's really all I got.

I mean, you should just be fired if you decide to hand the ball off with 26 seconds left. And it's supposed to be the last play of the game and you're up by six or whatever the score was at that time. I guess you have a point. It's a much inferior Georgia Tech team And that's the truth yeah Hey Anything else you want to add or I'm about to move on from this. No, I'm good. Cool We're gonna take a short break when we come back. Shoulders Sanders

potentially to the Giants. Find out next, you're listening to the Fumble Roosky podcast. It may not have always showed it in the staff sheet, but you can see him making throws when he needs to make the throws. Back to back games where he has three touchdowns. Someone's gotta get that six or seven spot. He's an elite wide receiver as a rookie. Truly a lose-lose scenario for both sides.

["Fumble Roosky"] Welcome back to the Fumble Roosky podcast. rookie truly a lose lose scenario for both sides. Welcome back to the Fumbaruski podcast. Chris Kostich, CJ Medeiros, Shadr Sanders. There's a lot of smoke around him and a lot of connections currently saying Shadr Sanders to the Giants per Adam, Adam Schefter. I don't know. I feel like I was gonna say this about Kam Ward, but we can say it now because of the actual freezing. There's a lot of smoke. Well, it's draft time.

There's gonna be a shit ton of smoke screens about what teams are doing in the draft, what could potentially happen? Like, we won't actually know until draft night. That's basically all it is. We won't actually know until then. Like, last week we were talking about Shere Sanders and how he's falling in the drafts or people are having him fall in the draft. And today we're talking about him being drafted to the Giants, which by the way I think the Giants already have their quarterback for the future.

Jameis Winston, you fucking kidding me? J-Bo to Malik, neighbors? Like the Giants are gonna suck, but they're gonna have fun watching their team play because of James Winston. So that's just my feeling on it. But pardon me. But like I said, there's so much of this that I'm just like, I'll believe it when I see it. And we've been saying multiple times, like we don't think Schitterer Sanders

a top five quarterback or top five draft pick in that regard, but there's too many quarterback needy teams where they kind of have to make this reach and whatnot. But yeah, CJ, what about it? I think this is just another smoke street screen We're gonna see shooter fall in the draft. Is this legit? What is it draft guy? What is it? What is it? What is it man? Come on?

I'll get there. I'll get there. So I've been pondering this as you know, I look at my draft orb and I ponder things but At the end of the day if you're the Giants, I don't know how you pass on Sanders And I'll tell you why Because obviously Ward's gonna be off the board because if you look at a poly market I think he's got over 60% chance to be the number one overall pick as like the highest or scenario that we've seen in a solid bit. So I think that they're desperate which is why I think they're gonna take Sanders you know because

forget everything you know about Brian Dable, right? I think a lot of the hate Dable gets is unjustified, I do. And I think the Giants are gonna take Sanders. Because not about Dable, it's about Joe Shane. Joe Shane kept his job by the skin of his teeth last season because honestly, the Giants had a pretty good draft. And I think last year's draft class for the Giants was the only reason Joe Shane kept his job. So regardless of that he and Dable know, one

deservingly, one not deservingly, that they're on thin ice. And you need a Hail Mary pass, you need a grand solution. So I feel like they're gonna take Shador Sanders. And when you have a rookie quarterback, if you're a head coach, you can almost use him as a bargaining chip and say, you can't fire me. Think about Shador's development. And that's just what's gonna happen.

They're like, oh, we gotta keep the team around and we can't have any shake-ups and I mean dead serious when I tell you that's what that's the angle if they're smart that's the angle they'll play if they draft them but yeah I do have Sanders falling to the Giants and do I like him as a prospect? Not like a lot. However, I think the hatred that he gets is really overblown. I like him a tiny bit better than I like Ward, and I don't really like Ward.

I mean, Sanders I think has a much higher ceiling, but Ward is a high floor kind of guy. I just, I definitely don't think Sanders should go to the Giants though. I mean, yeah, sure, big market, whatever, but that is a team that just, I mean, ever since Eli Manning left, it's a quarterback graveyard.

And don't get me wrong, the talent is there. The talent is there. The talent's there. The processing speed while he's playing is insane. And he's got a very good grasp of the game. He really does. NFL Hall of Famers kid, you're gonna know a thing or two because you've seen a thing or two. He had a really high completion percentage, which I think led in the FBS, but I'm not sure. He led in the big 12 in terms of completion percentage, passing yards, passing touchdowns. Yeah, but I don't know, I read somewhere it was FBS leading too, but either way, he had a 74.2% completion percentage in college. That is huge

168.2 pass rating for those NFL fans don't watch college is a little perplexed by that college does things differently but yeah, no, that's a really good passer rating and honestly I'm not gonna go out and say he can do more with less but Colorado's offensive line was very bad. For long stretches of the season, their running game was non-existent. And the only really elite receiving threat he has is probably, no, not probably, it is Travis Hunter.

That's literally it. I mean, don't get me wrong. I think Jimmy Horn's good. I think Leggante, Webster, whatever his name is. I think that's him. I think he's solid too. They're nowhere near on Hunter's level. And honestly, I don't even think Horn's gonna get drafted. Webster might, but that's a big maybe if if that is who I'm thinking of, because I've been doing a lot of draft scouting, tape watching, and sometimes they all run together when you look at it for too long.

Let that be a lesson to you kids. But all jokes aside, I definitely think he's got what it takes. It's just, if you're a team, there is a reason not to like Chador Sanders and This really sucks But it's something that's kind of out of his control. It's a lot of teams just don't want to deal with Dion and

Look, oh, he will Shepard was the other one. That's it. Sorry. I had to think about me I know it's will Shepard was the other one. That's it. Sorry. I had to think about me. I know it's will shepherd is the other receiver but Alia and Lejante Webster as well, but either way Just Dion even though he probably doesn't even mean to he's going to be a media circus wherever he he goes I mean any comment especially in new york right because if chidora sanders ends up in new york then you're just going to be in that vulture's

nest one of the most vicious media cities in the united states just picking apart his father's every word and they're going to and honestly can he be a bit much sometimes I sure he can we all can but but the newer media is just going to overinflate everything and they're just going to make mountains out of molehills that is what the New York media tends to do but look I don't think Chador Sanders is a bad quarterback. I really don't. Like I said, I like him better than Ward. It's just even without his father,

there are some things to be concerned about. So you know how we talk about how quarterbacks these days don't really have much self-preservation. At the first sign of trouble, they run, they get their head taken off into a... Sanders is the opposite of that there are there are times where he's had the ability to run and He just doesn't which is weird because he's an extremely athletic guy and I believe runs a sub for

740 which is really good for a quarterback and he just like will not leave the pocket. And on top of that, this dude is allergic to throwing the ball away. And he got 52 sacks in 2024. It's true. 52, can you believe that? Then again, even though his offensive line wasn't good, in fact, it was, I believe in the bottom half the ball. 52. Can you believe that then again, even though

the bottom half of all lines the ball. He's kind of got William syndrome going on. I can get coached out of h at least but I think he's solid at least But I think he's very good Huh? I think he's very good coach Yeah, I hear that but

Also, he can definitely get a little skittish when blitzed repeatedly I remember during that bowl game against BYU, they were just, it was like six, seven guys to the line like almost every play and they were just getting after him. Then again, some of that's the O-line's fault, but in the NFL they will just attack you non-stop. That's something you're gonna have to deal with. And even though Deion Sanders wants him to be in New York, I just, careful what you wish for, man, because that media is just going to make something out of nothing, and that's something that I am concerned about.

But honestly, Sanders, I've been hearing a lot about, oh, teams don't like his body language, he's brash, he's arrogant. Like, have you ever gotten that? Now that's like a dude that has like legitimate confidence on like Ward, where it's just projecting his insecurities. And honestly, I do also think that Sanders is a leader. He is. He is. He's got like a natural command of the huddle. He's got a good sideline presence, and I think he's a good locker room guy too.

So, I don't know. Once again, I'm not crazy about either quarterback. I don't think either of them are top 10 prospects but this is the way the draft is kids. What do you want from me? Nothing. I don't want anything else. I just want

your takes about the draft. Thank you but um the Giants three quarterbacks drafted in the first round in Super Bowl era thing kind of got me interested. So there's Philip Rivers. There's Daniel Jones. I only say Rivers because Manning. Yeah, yeah. Of course, just in case anyone was it wasn't smart. Um I looked this up because I thought the answer would be Phil Sims for the third quarterback. It's not. I'm wrong. Would it be Kerry Collins? Nope, not Kerry Collins.

Who? Dave Brown in the first round of the 1992 draft. Dave Brown, man. Yeah. How did that slip my mind? I feel I am ashamed. Please forgive me if committed dishonor and such. But overall, if I had to guess, right?

I would say Ward is gonna go number one to the Titans and Sanders will end up going three to the Giants. I do want to point out though. There has been some Whispers that he might go to Cleveland Or that Cleveland might take a quarterback But honestly, I don't even know what to make of that Cleveland situation the only way I can describe it just like in general is like, oh God. Picture like when you're decorating for the holidays and you get the Christmas lights out

and they're all tangled and you're like, oh, what the hell is this? That's the Cleveland QB room. And honestly, Cleveland, you're already paying off Deshaun Weinstein's contract. You just traded for Kenny Mittens there or Kenny Pickett but okay Super Bowl Champion Kenny Pickett to his credit. I just I don't think a rookie QB is what they need. In fact I know it's not what they need. I'm gonna go a step further on that. So Cleveland, don't go after the shiny dangly object. Just your

as far as quarterbacks go, you would be wise to sit this one out. Sorry, I've been I've been trying to do some more research on this three quarterbacks thing. Yeah. It's just kinda... I don't know. I don't think it's Dave Brown. I don't even think that there is three quarterbacks that were drafted in the first round

by the Giants in the Super Bowl era. I think Adam Wright, our executive producer, is feeding us shit. Wait, what round was Dave Brown drafted in? Well, when I so I went to Wikipedia because it's just I just went to it. It was the first page and it had Derek Brown as a tight end. It's a tight end. It's Dave Brown, Chris. What? His name's Dave Brown Chris what?

His name's Dave Brown not Derek. Yeah, it's and Derek Brown is a tight end Hold on a second. Hold on a second Why are we questioning Adam and like I mean guys screw Adam? That's why But I mean well well you're looking at looking at that, I just, if I had to guess, right, as far as Cleveland though, like I said, I don't think they should take Sanders. I don't.

Or ward if he falls, if somehow the Titans take Sanders. I really, like I said, I can't stress that enough. If you're Cleveland hot take, I think they should take a dual Carter. You know, pair him up with Miles Garrett because all they're gonna do is just double Garrett and Sessom light. And you're gonna need a guy like Carter

who can get open off the edge. So Adam updated the banner and actually. You know, I thought so Sims was a first round pick. I did some more research. Hey, Brown was a first round pick. I did some more research Hey brown was a first round draft pick for the Giants So in this case Adam is still wrong because there's four quarterbacks not three This really turned into an Adam right shit fest all the sudden Yeah, well

You know we live and we learn you know, you're not going to be able to do that. Yeah. Well, you know, we live and we learn so, you know, to air is human and so on and so forth and whatever cliche you want to throw at me. Also, Adam's just going to materialize behind you

and hit you with a stick. Yeah, I bet I'm dodging that stick. Get out of here. Um yeah. But uh but yeah, so once again, I'm Cleveland. I'm taking a dual Carter, just easy pull the trigger. Just smart pick. Yeah, easily. Now that's going to be some fun where I think we got a lot of like fun, different, I think one thing that we're not

talking about is how we have a lot of fun little combinations that we could theorize for the draft, right? So like you mentioned Abdul Carter on the Browns. Abdul Carter and Miles Garrett on opposite sides of the line. Bookending the defensive ends. Well, pro football reference, the the the the the the

the the the the the the the That sounds sick in my mind. Shoulder Sanders, Jamis Winston, and Tommy DeVito in the same quarterback room, that's just fucking hilarious. Oh yeah, all the memes.

That's probably one of the more entertaining quarterback rooms I've ever seen in my life. Drake May and Travis Hunter. Yeah, that was what I was thinking, because if we follow that train of thought then I feel like Travis Hunter falls from New England at four and You got Drake may throw in dots to Travis Hunter who has that natural fluidity and route running savvy That's gonna be good. Yeah, and you could probably see him

Specialize in the backfield and like select packages him Christian, Christian Gonzalez and Carlton Davis on third and 20 is going to be a nightmare for defenses to deal with. But Drake May to Travis Hunter, that could give a lot of teams fits. Yeah, that's basically, I know we're not doing our mock draft, but that's basically my prediction at least. If the quarterbacks fall the way I think they do,

then that's how I see the top four going. It's probably gonna be war to the Browns Carter No war to the Titans Carter to the Browns Sanders to the Giants and hunter to the Patriots. That is all kids Nice How much you want bet Adam is still looking to prove me wrong right now? Yeah, so I was just about to say I looked at it again and it is the supplemental draft. That's why it was...

Oh, the supplemental draft. Yeah, the supplemental draft. Which I don't really... Okay. I feel like that's the same thing It's not What even is this? What even was the supplemental draft? You know, I'm gonna be honest. I'm not entirely sure. I just know it's not canon to the first seven rounds

Well, when you look at when you press on NFL supplemental draft, it just takes you to the 92 NFL draft I don't know. Fun fact, Josh Gordon was, you know, former star Browns receiver and 2019 pothead of the year was actually taking the supplemental draft. Yeah. Yeah, breaking news. Fuck you too, Adam. Oh, wow. Gee, owns owns so owned, you know. Speaking of pro days, we met.

I don't know if any future employers saw that I don't associate with them. I'm being held hostage and such. Yeah, okay. Texas just had their court day, their pro day. And NFL Twitter posted a video of Quinn Uers throwing a bomb. It was a bit of a duck bomb, though. It got there.

It was accurate, at least from the video. But it was pretty wobbly. Louisville edge rusher Ashton Jalot, a name that is already generating buzz as we get closer to the NFL draft, ran a blazing 46340 today at the Louisville Pro Day in front of reps from all 32 NFL clubs. Yeah, I tell you, Jalot, I have him going in the third round. He's going to be a steal. the the Well, Adam, do you want to talk about other prospects or should we just end it here? I think we've gone far enough. We talk about balls at this point. Let's just call it a day.

Let's just call it a day. CJ last chance to add anything else before we go. All I'm going to say to the kids at home is just stay tuned for more draft coverage. This is where we're less than a month away. the the the the the the the

the the to do it for us today. Adam is today on a one year deal worth $21 million. 10.5 million guaranteed. The Giants and Super Bowl winning quarterback, Russell Wilson. This quarterback room just got more insane. Jamis Winston. This changes everything. So, do they even take Sanders?

Fuck it, let's get Shudder Sanders in here. We got Tommy Devito, we got Jamis Winston, we got Russell Wilson and Shudder. That's insane. That's awesome Call it a day call today. Wait, hold on. What? Troglodyte would have three QB. I mean not three but four QBs on the roster I mean this this change it does this this probably just remain QBs and then you got your emute your EQ your emergency QB Yeah. All right. Well, we'll see Wow, so the Giants

literally like days after they Just signed Jamis Winston to his own one-year deal. I'm pretty sure I forget what those details are but literally days after what those details are but literally days after James Winston just got signed to the Giants. Now we got this now Russell Wilson is on the Giants. So like I said, what I was saying before Russell will so you gotta assume Russell Wilson is going to be quarterback one at that point. Yeah. And it goes back to what I was saying.

Why would you start him over famous Jameis? Because, like, for some reason, everyone loves to make Jameis QB2 when he should be quarterback one for a tanking NFL team, such as the Giants. But a lot of smoke and a lot of connections for Shadr Sanders to the Giants, maybe it's just all a big old smoke screen, just like we were talking about, like 20 minutes ago. That's all it is. That's all it is. And now we're probably going to see maybe Travis Hunter gets drafted

to the Giants or something, or maybe like, I don't know, they go Will Campbell, get themselves an offensive tackle. The options just expanded once again on this whole draft thing now. The ideas have expanded once again. But once again, Russell Wilson signed to the Giants on a one-year, $10.5 million, It's a guaranteed deal chance to earn $21 million. Whew. Hey, I'm sorry, say that contract again.

Let me get back to it real quick. It is, I just had it. All right. One year, right? It's a one year, $10.5 million guaranteed contract chance to earn $21 million. Yeah. All right then. Yeah. So I mean, do they even take Sanders at this point?

I mean, that's what I'm saying. Like now the options are endless of what you're you what the Giants could potentially do. And for all we know, they're probably just going to say, fuck it. We're not going to go with Chaudhur. They're actually going to take this year, reset, do what the Steelers probably should do, and just reset and take and just already look ahead to the next couple of that you're gonna have this squad like

Bra I know the Giants are probably gonna draft a couple more studs if they do the same thing they did last year Well Wow that that is certainly a way to end the show kids. Hi. Yeah Yeah, wow, that's good. I like it. I like it All right Adam wants us to keep going. Keep going. What else is there to say about Russell Wilson to the Giants? We've basically already covered the fact that, well, Shadrers Sanders is just a massive smoke screen as we were just saying 20 minutes ago. And on top of that, like what Russell, like the Giants are just going to suck still, they're still going to suck for the next five years. Like that's, that's the long, like if we've been watching Russell

Wilson the last five years, you're not going anywhere with them. If we've been watching the Giants since their playoff run in 22 or whatever they had it or whenever they had it, you know they're not going to do good. No, I just like I said, I mean you can think about like that and that's okay, but like I said, but for me, I have to think about it from a draft perspective and look, I'm going to put out my bias here. I would greatly prefer, should Travis Hunter be there? I would, it would be very nice. It would be very cute if he was there.

But now, ah, I don't know if they go QB because look, you don't draft a guy third overall and how'd be QB three have him sitting behind Mr. Unlimited, you know, what's he gonna say now like Giants country? Let's giant or something and the famous Jamis the turnover man, I Mean well, you also have Two of these quarterbacks on one year contracts as well. Or I'm not speaking on the Tommy DeVito contract.

That's probably also on a one year deal as well. But say you have three guys that are on one year deals. You got Scherz Sanders. Maybe you set them for a year. Maybe you set up if you do draft and maybe you set them for this season, which is what you probably should be doing with young quarterbacks anyways. Um, maybe you said them because like, yeah, Russell Wilson and James Winston are not very good quarterbacks. James Winston is extremely fun to watch.

Russell Wilson is not very fun to watch. Um, they're still vets in the league. They are still veterans in the league. So maybe you do draft shooter Sanders and have them learn under the veteran leadership of Jamis Winston and Russell Wilson. Maybe you got that. Possibly. Possibly.

I mean, from what we've seen and heard, Russell Wilson may not be actually that good of a leader after all anyways, but they, the boys rally around Jamis. Well, I mean, God, you know something at times like this is a Pats fan. All I can think about is winning that meaningless game at the end of the year. And I know that whole stupid thing about arm well, as the people say with soy coursing through their veins. Organizations tank, okay.

Players don't, okay, that's cool. Doesn't change the fact they should have lost. And now New England has basically all but officially missed out on Travis Hunter and Abdul Carter. Yeah. So I got James Winston's contract wrong. It's a he's on for two years, eight mil.

And then Tommy DeVito is on an exclusive rights tender. So at the moment, the QB DeVito is the odd man out. Yeah, DeVito is probably going to be the odd man out at that point. Unless, like I said, emergency quarterback type of deal. But you leave that for the third string quarterback at that point. But once again, Russell Wilson to the New York Giants on a one year, 10.5 million dollar deal and a chance to win a little bit over 20 mil Giants quarterback room now looks like Russell Wilson Jamis Winston and

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on Instagram and social media. You name it, we're all over it. For myself, Chris Kostich, CJ Medeiros, Adam Wright, our producer, say so long and good night. We'll see you on Friday. Well, we thought we just ended the show, but in reality, more breaking news on top of the Giants signing Jameis Winston, the Patriots five minutes later, not even, responds, it's Siobhan Diggs is a New England Patriot. Three years, $69 million deal.

I don't know where to begin. I don't know where to begin. I really don't because I really don't because I think like we're just got done saying how you know for the Giants not out of like it's not out of the argument that they aren't going to take uh Shader Sanders still it felt more likely that they're going to take Travis Hunter with the James Winston signing and now you got the Patriots who just drafted or parted and drafted, just signed Stefan Diggs because now it seems that they think that the Giants are gonna take Travis Hunter now. It's holy moly, holy moly.

A wild final 15 minutes, the last 15 minutes that we just had CJ your thoughts I'll put my analyst hat on in a second but right now I'm speaking solely as a Pat's fan I genuinely can't believe it they did it like they actually did it for the first time since 2019 a a wide receiver one, like an actual real proven wide receiver one, signed to New England. And this isn't even like a one year rental either.

Three years, $60 million contract, really nice contract, with 26 million guaranteed, which compared to total contract and guaranteed money. That's actually really good so They finally did it. They heard the noise. They actually went out and got a legitimate wide receiver one for Drake May They were serious. So really the only weak spot left is tackle and now you're free to basically do whatever you really want on the draft Yep spot left is tackle and now you're free to basically do whatever you really want on the draft. Yep. Yeah, I mean the draft possibilities for the Patriots kind of, I wouldn't necessarily say shrunk, but it feels like it feels narrower. Like it feels like we're starting to really narrow down

what the Patriots are going to end up doing with that fourth overall pick. narrow down what the Patriots are going to end up doing with that fourth overall pick. But see right there, Patriots last year didn't have a pass catcher of more than 674 receiving yards. I would imagine this to Mario Douglas. Yeah, I would assume it's probably Pop Douglas or Hunter Henry, one of the two. But you have that. And then prior to this past season, Stephon Diggs, six straight seasons of a thousand to the Okay. Stefan Diggs 32 coming off of a torn ACL. I don't know.

Like obviously when you're a team like the Patriots and you're so shit out of luck in terms of, at least in terms of being able to try to find a true wide receiver one or just a wide receiver in the draft Not getting much luck You got a guy like Stefan digs that's on the market Might as well just take a shot out might as well. There's other concerns about digs, of course, you know, he's got a He's a bit of a diva. It's a bit of a diva Yeah, but it I guess this signing now that I'm starting to really think like now that it's starting to really all like settle in like it's starting to kind of fall

like everything's kind of meshed together again in terms of this move. Like it feels like it kind of goes against what the Patriots were looking for a wide receiver. Right? Because they said they were gonna trade for a veteran wide receiver, or just trade for a wide receiver period, or a draft one in this coming draft. And they also said they felt that specific veteran wide receivers don't wanna get them because they could potentially be bad

in the development of Drake May. I Feel like Stefan Diggs kind of creeps into that category a little bit but I Don't know Hmm. Well if I may argue on Diggs's behalf look I get it right as far as New England goes You don't want a diva, right? You don't want some malignant tumor screaming in your quarterback's ear for the ball. That can really screw him up.

But the only thing I'll say that Diggs had going for him in that scenario was that, oh my God. He, you know, we had to deal with, right? It was Sean McDermott who can't really manage a locker room another quarter another like Really mediocre to not that great head coach who's just hiding behind Josh Allen. I Know we've set up before none of us view McDermott as a top 10 head coach and rightfully so And yeah, I feel like a lot of it was more McDermott centric and also when it comes to Diva I'm kind of glad New England gave up that whole,

we don't want any divas. Well, look, that's the thing. Wide receiver, even more so than quarterback, is probably the flashiest position in the entire league. It's the sexiest position. It has the most sizzle. It's got everything you want. But unfortunately, that attracts divas. That's just how it works and every

Star-wide receiver in the league I think has a tiny bit of diva to him some have a lot some have a little but The guys like Larry Fitzgerald those guys are gone unless something drastic changes in the near future they're not coming back. And when you look for a guy that's oh we don't want any divas okay that says well we don't want any wide receiver ones. That's what it says. And we knew New England was interested right. They had him in for physical last Wednesday the 19th and I I was actually I think that I think that's a this like when we're talking about like the timeline like so they the physical happens right so that on the 19th they have the physical happen he has dinner at Dario's or isn't that place where he had your graduation party? Actually? Yeah, we were.

Yeah, you were there. That was exactly that. That's what made me think of it. But, you know, you have they had the meeting at Dario's. He has his physical taken. And I should you not like, boom, you see workout videos of him. And he's looking fucking fantastic. Yeah, apparently that's obviously a direct response. The coop. Yeah. Oh, that's definitely a direct response of what's transpiring in New England.

Maybe it was maybe it was a subtle like he knows he knew it was going to happen. He just wanted to maybe get some people fired up subliminal subliminally. Yeah, that's a good man right there. Had dinner in Foxborough at same place as CJ's grad party with Mike Vrabel. Uh, also coming in just now, Stefan Diggs is deal. It's three or 69 million. Once again, 26 million of it guaranteed. I mean, you could say the 69 part was the suck tax, as nice as that contract is for digs.

I will also say that 26 mil guarantees actually like not that bad, it's like 12 mil a year. Concerned about the average wide receiver one, I think it's paid like 17 to 20 mil a year. I'll take it. Yeah. And the fact that he's progressed as much as he has, like he's out there running full speed,

doing his routes and stuff. He's gonna be ready for camp, I would imagine. So yeah, that's a, and do you know what's really good? Like I said, New England just had another need taken off the board. And I was skeptical, but I got to tip my hat to Vrabel and even Wolf and even Kraft too. Like they actually, they said they were gonna spend

and this time they actually did it. And they still have some leftover. Really, it's just left tackle and maybe like another running back and you're solid. Yeah, I understand. You are B3, but yeah. And that's something you can do in the draft because now you're not Travis Hunter dependent.

Cause I remember I said, like as a past, I was like, Oh God, that means you're gonna, but now, but no, you can take like Will Campbell and not feel bad about it, you know? Yeah. Or if a Chidora Sanders follow you in the draft, perhaps you could swindle some QB needy team. Just a thought.

That too, no, a hundred percent agree. I mean, like this really shorns the stick on what the Patriots are willing to do and what they are potentially going to do. Cause when you talk about Stefan Diggs on this, in this receiving core now, now you've got, so you got Stefan Diggs on this, in this receiving core now, now you got, so you got Stefan Diggs as your wide receiver one. And now you filled out pretty nicely in terms of who's backing Stefan Diggs in terms of pop Douglas, uh, Hunter Henry's obviously a great pass catcher.

Just got a Mac Collins. What Collins too. Yep. I've got a Mac Collins. Yeah, Kshan Budi and number three. Yeah, I got him. What? Collins too. Yep. That's the thing. New England has a bunch of good okay receivers, but you need a great one. Yeah.

Or great, just like at least a one. And for the record, if my memory serves me right, New England has not had a 1000 yard receiver since 2019, where I think Julian Elman had over 1,000 yards and like six touchdowns, I think. Yeah. So yeah, so they finally did, they went out and they actually got a wide receiver one,

because as a fan, I can say, Lord knows they were not gonna draft one. Yeah. Obviously this comes after Patriots losing out on the Calvin Ridley sweepstakes last year and losing on Chris Godwin right as free agency started. I mean, as most teams did with both wide receivers opting to go to teams for less money, back to back off seasons.

So, you know, you have that happening. Now this is a pretty feel good when if you're new England and three years, 69 mil 26 guaranteed for Stefan digs. Now that's the end of the show. We'll see you Friday.