The Fumblerooski Podcast - Darnold's Fresh Start -Ep 18 the Fumblerooski Podcast

Episode Date: April 7, 2021

Former Jets quarterback Sam Darnold has been traded to the Carolina Panthers for a 2nd, 4th, and 6th round draft pick. We discuss how this trade affects the quarterback market and the 2021 NFL draft on episode 18 of The Fumblerooski Podcast.

Good evening, you are listening to the Fumble Ruski podcast by Power88DeanRadio. So buckle up, we are in for a wild ride. I am Adam Wright along with Justin Tucker. Justin, how are you doing today? Oh man, I'm feeling a little under the weather. It is allergy season, so I'm just trying to hang in there. Allergy season, boys. Dude, I'm feeling very good with this new sound if i sound great i will take the compliment thank you guys but i have gotten this new muffler

here and i've adjusted the height so i'm a lot closer to the mic and i feel much more professional this uh this podcast is really starting to get up there and i feel like we're gonna we're gonna start stepping it up a little bit so we're gonna we're gonna get going um so they didn't come to listen to me oh no they come i carry this show you're just show up you just show up and you're the you're the and i bring all these i bring the audience with me but you know that's either here or there you're gonna take they're gonna take their talents to me justin now uh one man's trash is another man's treasure in In other words, Sam Darnold was traded to the Carolina Panthers for a second round pick, a fourth round pick, and a sixth round pick. I'm kidding.

He's not trash, but we will find out. Considering he's getting traded into a new, better situation. Now, right off the bat, this affects a lot of different teams again uh it's not quite like the trade that happened last week the couple trades that happened between the dolphins the 49ers and the eagles that that basically just uh just screwed up this changed up the entire first half of the first round of the draft it just really just shook everything this is a little different but it certainly impacts a lot of teams, a lot of players. Teddy Bridgewater is now, he's definitely not going to be the quarterback on the team. He sure as hell doesn't want to start.

The eighth pick of the draft is, that was widely rumored to be used on a quarterback, but now Sam Darnold's on the team. Now, right off the bat, though, we'll start with simply, is this the right deal for the Panthers? First and foremost, I want to say congratulations to Sam Donald. He finally gets the opportunity he deserves, leaving that cesspool of a New York Jets organization. Finally, he gets to start somewhere new and somewhere fresh. Based upon the value they gave up for him and the potential he has, I do think it was the right choice for the Panthers to go out and get their quarterback

without having to spend major draft capital to get him. I believe they can now focus that pick on somewhere else, like offensive line help or even defensive help. Maybe get a cornerback and help their defense get better and hopefully contend for the playoffs. I think this move helps them compete in a somewhat competitive NFC South. I think now that the Saints have taken a step back, I think this helps the Panthers continually take that next step forward. And they have a capable quarterback that's more talented than Teddy Bridgewater to give wide receivers like Robbie Anderson, Seth Roberts, and DJ Moore more opportunities. And doesn't have to give Kristen McCaffrey the ball every single time.

So, yeah, I think this is good all around for the Carolina Panthers, yay or nay. So I'm with you 100%. This is a great deal for the Carolina Panthers. I hear a lot about how they did give up a ton, how they overpaid a lot for uh for this player now i just think well maybe they maybe the price was a little bit high they there's nothing more valuable than the next guy the franchise guy and this guy and this guy could he has the potential to be and he has shown flashes with the new york jets to be a potential

franchise player now he has been with the jets so a lot of he's been held back for most of his career and it just hasn't worked out never really clicked um now sam darnold he i mean nobody's really talking about this but he gets reunited with his old wide receiver, his old top wide receiver, Robbie Anderson, who just came off a career year. He comes back with DJ Moore, who was sneaky good last season and has been good, has been on the upward trend ever since he came into the league. And better offensive line, better situation, better coaching, more competitive team, more talent. The pressure's on Sam Darnold. Just like we kind of said a couple of weeks ago when Daniel Jones got his number one guy in Kenny Galladay, that the

pressure's on Daniel Jones. It's the same way with Sam Darnold. Sam Darnold, everything is in place for him to succeed. The defense could be a little better. That run defense could certainly use some help, but they could address that. But all in all, I think it's safe to say if Sam Darnold can't, if he can't succeed here on this team, he can't succeed anywhere. And we can officially dub him as a bust. He's kind of been able to avoid that bust tag for a while because of the built-in excuse.

He's been on the Jets, and he has shown – mainly he's been on the Jets. He's shown some flashes, but he's also shown some, some points where he really, he just, it was a bad look for him seeing the ghosts back, back during those days. Yeah. You know, so it's really, we'll, we'll find out if this guy, that's what I'm most excited for. We're going to find out with what, uh, with guys like Daniel Jones and Sam Darnold whether they can actually play in the NFL. I think Sam Darnold can play. I think the only reason he hasn't been labeled as a bust yet is because of Josh Rosen. I think part of the reason they haven't considered him a bust is because look at the way Josh Rosen's career went. Even though I don't really

think he's a bust, I just don't think he's had the opportunities to succeed. First off, the fact that you can say he's shown flashes with the Jets means that I think he can be a very competent quarterback because it's the Jets. They don't even know their left shoelace from their right shoelace. I mean, they're just so... They're just so inept as an organization. I sometimes wonder how the heck they got two wins under their belt last year. They should have been 0-16. They should have the number one overall pick.

But even the Jets get in their own ways, even when they don't. They had no business winning those two games. Yeah, but I thought they were actually going to get some more. I thought they might give up a first rounder to get sam donald the fact that they didn't give up a first and they still have the eighth overall pick this year which is still a top 10 pick and they can address some other needs and they only gave up a second and a fourth next year and a sixth this year i think it's underrated value and i think they they stole Sam Donald for dirt cheap right now.

And if he's a bust, I'm like, okay, next year they can draft a quarterback in the first round. But if he does really well, they just stole a franchise quarterback for next to nothing. I think that's pretty overwhelming value. And it makes the Jets look like complete ass clowns, especially if Zach Wilson doesn't pan out. You trade the guy who you thought was a bust, and then you try and pick up this other guy with a number two pick. I'm glad they're taking a direction with this instead of just drafting Zach Wilson and keeping Sam Donald too,

because that'd just be dumb. Here's what I will say. I've developed this thought ever since this trade happened. If you're a Jets fan and you think that Sam Darnold and Zach Wilson are on the same level, sort of like the same value. And then you turn around and say, this deal is a good deal for the jets. You need to rethink your life. You know why? Because why, if you value Sam Darnold, the same way of Zach Wilson, who's going to be a number two pick, why not just keep Sam sam darnold and just trade the number two pick you'd get more out of it and you could build around sam darnold and you can actually build a competent team for him

you know it's i mean i'm not i'm getting people in trouble for something that they haven't done but i've seen mel kuyper talk the way he talks about Sam Darnold, saying he's better than everybody in this draft class, and then turn around and say, you know, this is a good deal for the Jets. Yeah. I'm all for, like, if you want to take one side or the other and then saying, well, like, I don't think this is a good deal for the Jets because we should have kept Sam Darnold. Or this is a great deal for the Jets because I like Zach Wilson more. But if you say, oh, they're kind of on the same side, but good deal for the Jets. No. No.

You're an idiot. No. They're Jets fans. I mean, they've made poor decisions before. I mean, that's what they are. They're Jets fans. They're used to it by now. Just look at Brian.

I mean, Yates. Stop. Brian is out out tonight by the way he is out oh man but overall congratulations to sam donald uh hopefully or yeah i think congratulations to the carolina panthers and better luck next time new york jets but i'm always saying that about the new y Jets. So nothing new. Yeah. Yeah. And good deal for the Panthers.

It could wind up not working for either side. Have we ever thought about that? Like there's going to be no winner. Sam Darnold is still a bust. And Zach Wilson winds up being a complete stiff. And then just nobody wins. And he just turns into Sam Darnold himself because they don't put any talent around him or a line that can help him or a decent run game i mean yeah this could be sam donald 2.0 if we're not if they're not careful he could i mean you're just

if you if you think about it this way there if I've said, and I do think Sam Darnold and Zach Wilson do have some similarities. This could be one thing where they're just extending what they've already been doing. They're just bringing in another Sam Darnold-like player, not surrounding him with enough talent and just being a suckbag team. And then a few years down the road, we're going to think, you know, Zach Wilson, he's underachieved, but he's on the Jets. So maybe if they trade him, you know, it's one of those things. Like, surround this guy with some talent now. Like, what the hell are they doing?

Like, what the hell are they doing over there? Like, what an awful franchise. You always question why they haven't made the playoffs since, what, 11? I've never questioned it. And then they make stuff like this. I'm like, no wonder they don't make it. Right. Because they, you know, why don't, so use the pick that they have.

Trade back. Like I said, trade back. Trade back to say number – around the number five, six section. Draft Jamar Chase. Give Sam Darnold a weapon. And then you have other – you probably get other picks from this trade because it's the number two pick. The number three pick got fetched three first round picks in return this can get a lot more and so you use that you have

another first round pick that you could address on the offensive line and then you could build around sam darnold i don't know i i'm kind of i'm a i'm a believer in sam darnold i think they i think this is a guy who can succeed um and it really feels and i'm a believer in Sam Darnold I think they I think this is a guy who can succeed um and it really feel and I'm a believer in Zach Wilson too I think he's going to be good I just think like I said I don't think this is a good deal for the Chiefs or for the Jets so you know the only saving grace for him is that they have a new head coaching staff and he's not Adam Gase I can say that and they're starting to build like a very good front seven, so I think that could be a saving grace for them.

That's the main selling point for this Jets team, and it just tells you how much false hope that they're really buying into is completely ignoring the lack of talent on that team, saying, well, we don't have Adam Gase, so we're going to win a lot of games this year. We'll win like five games. First of all, I don't, I don't see why is five games in a, in accomplishment. Second of all, why are we, second of all, why are we, how the hell are they winning more games than they did last year? What have they done so far that's different?

They have an actually decent head coach that actually knows what they're doing. Well, we don't know that. He could be worse. He could be, but I don't think he could be much worse than Adam Gase from the press conference on, to be fair. When he first got to New York, you saw something was up with him. Like, yo, he doesn't look right. That's true. It's

interesting. Well, time will tell how this deal looks. He could go 6-11, not 6-10. 6-11. You think 6 wins? Yeah, because they were in a lot of the games, they just couldn't finish. And they were just inept to the point where it became blowouts.

And you think they'll finish games next year? They'll finish more. They still won two games against playoff caliber teams. They beat Cleveland and the Rams. Two teams that made the playoffs. So they have it in them. I don't know how they

have it in them, but they do have something in them. And I can say, you know what? They can beat on some less than average playoff teams and get four more wins out of it i see six and eleven i i don't but all the power to you now we're gonna um there's another now there's another way the um the this that this impacts the carolina panthers in the sense that they are now out of the quarterback market, obviously, because now they have Sam Darnold. And that also means that Teddy Bridgewater is out of a starting job. Now, what do you think this means for Teddy Bridgewater? And what does this mean for the eighth overall pick? Do you see them trading Teddy Bridgewater? Do you see them trading teddy bridgewater do you see them keeping the eighth

overall pick do they trade the overall pick do they do they uh do they package them both in what do you think justin so many possibilities to do with teddy that that's a tough one i mean what value can you get if you trade him he's signed to a three-year 21 million dollar contract with carolina so i'm like it's not a bad contract but at the same time what can like what team's willing to take that i think the saints would but do you really want to trade to your competitor no um i maybe that maybe minnesota might take him back maybe if they're not inept or like enamored with the Kirk cousins, but I don't see that happening.

So I think he's going to stay there for another year. And then as the season progresses, maybe by the end of the season next year, they might trade him to another team. So he has like a, like he's on his final year of the contract and he can prove that he can still play in the NFL. But with the overall pick now that they have some, they have their quarterback, they can actually trade back in the draft and say go to like the 15th pick and actually pick a good player.

Or for my sake, I hope they take a corner. If I'm Carolina, they should take a corner and pick 15 and maybe trade with the New England Patriots to go up to eighth so they can pick up their future quarterback of the franchise and so therefore they can get more picks to actually help with the defense and the offensive side of the ball and so I think inevitably Teddy Bridgewater will get traded eventually just not right now and I think they should trade back in the draft now that they have their franchise quarterback and they don't need to keep it right now this is something where you know it'd be easy to say why don't they keep the eighth overall pick because it's the eighth overall pick you can take anybody virtually anybody in the draft at that point and you know you could easily look at any of the wide receivers

and say like let's load up here but i'm not sure if that's actually that smart because they already have enough at wide receiver it would be it would be like last year when the dallas cowboys we all thought they were going to address defense in the first round of the draft and they went and took cd lamb all right you know they have enough at wide receiver they have enough at running back they have really good they're really good at running back um they have a they have a very good offensive line well it's it's solid so why not just trade back and what they should do is trade back and maybe address the defense maybe look for somebody on the interior who could help them they could look they could look to address the offensive line it's which has been better but

they could make it even they can make it much better and you know there's a lot of things that they could do and not just keep the eighth overall pick maybe even get while trading back you can get an extra asset you can get an extra first round pick maybe in next year's draft and you continue to build for the future but i just don't think um i just don't see it being them keeping it now what's intriguing to me and uh robert the the the host of our sis our sister podcast the pesky pole podcast we were talking to him at at the dining hall today and he was mentioning how it's a possibility they could package in Teddy Bridgewater now that he's on the trading block as well. And so what if they were to package those two together, trade back and get a haul of assets that they could use to armor San Darnold with all this protection, all these weapons and everything, and to fix up that defense. That could be a real possibility. I wonder if they wind up trading back, say they trade back with a quarterback-needy team such as New England. Sorry for being a

biased Patriots fan, but they do need a quarterback. They won't take Teddy Bridgewater. Any team that needs a quarterback, teams are getting desperate. This is another quarterback who's off the market in Sam Darnold. It's getting awfully close to the draft, and teams need quarterbacks. So we could see a team moving up and trying to get a Teddy Bridgewater or acquire the eighth overall pick. So it's interesting what's going to go on. We'll see what happens with this. I see two possibilities that they keep this pick. One is they draft the cornerback out of Alabama, Patrick Sertan II,

because in 2019 against LSU, he was only targeted 5% of the time, which means he was 95%. He was the other cornerback, Trayvon Diggs, the brother of Stephon Diggs. Stephon Diggs' brother was targeted the other 95% of the time. God bless him. And the Cowboys took him in the second round, and you saw the results of that. No offense, but it is what it is. So I think if they do keep the pick, I think that's someone you should look out for if they do take him.

And as controversial as it might be, the second option is they'll take a quarterback. If they don't feel like Sam Darnold is there, if he's not doing what he's supposed to be doing, they might still take a quarterback and just say, Sam, you weren't doing what you're supposed to be doing. Bye-bye and better luck next time with another team. And they just might— That would be a dumb move for them. Dumb move for them.

I could still see it happening. And they just might insert the new quarterback in to be the franchise or be the next guy up and get rid of Teddy Bridgewater eventually. So you're telling me on a roster where they already have Sam Darnold, that they just acquired Sam Darnold, where they already had Teddy Bridgewater from last year that they just acquired sam darnold's where they already had teddy bridgewater from last year who they just acquired you're saying they're gonna you think they're going to pick another quarterback after that yeah because if they do draft a quarterback they're

going to be like one of them's going to go anyway sam donald's on his fourth year trying to look for a fifth year opt-in or a new contract extension anyway. So this is a proof of year for him. They could draft a quarterback and say, if he does well, we'll trade you. If he doesn't do well, you're the guy. And from there on out, they could trade him or not even take up Sam Donald's fifth-year option. I think they already took up his option, by the way.

They did? Yeah, they did. So they're committed to him. All right. So if he does well in his fourth year, they can trade away the number eight overall pick and probably get some good capital for him. Well, they already – Maybe he should take him. Well, they have the eighth overall pick in this draft.

So this is like – they either use it or they don't. Well, they obviously use it. But they use it or they don't. Well, they obviously use it. But they use it or they trade back. And as I said before, I don't see what they could do with an eighth overall pick. They could take a cornerback, but do you think he's going to be taken that early? Or do you think that they may think that he could fall back? I'm being a hopeful Patriots fan. I'm being a biased Patriots fan and saying –

I just pretend he will not fall below the top ten because Caleb Farley won't fall below the top ten. Okay. So they do need – but why are they addressing defense when – or why would they address a secondary when their secondary was actually pretty good last year? You can never have too many cornerbacks. With talents such as a Caleb Farley or a Patrick Sertain, which pretty much are short things.

That's where you're wrong. You can have too many cornerbacks when your run defense was as bad as it was last year. And that pass rush wasn't all that great either. I think you can, and I think they should try and trade back and actually get one of their needs. Because I thought the secondary was actually very good last year. Willing tacklers, do you think that would help with run stopping or stopping the run i'm sorry willing tacklers a cornerback yes will fill up and stop the run so say outside they can force it inside and give it to say derrick brown who was a runner here so if you

want to stop if you want to stop the run get somebody who's meant to stop the run don't get somebody that's why i got derrick brown last year get somebody who's sick of it. That's why I got Derek Brown last year. He was a rookie last year, and hopefully he'll take the steps to develop in year two. So then address pass rush. All right. Then you'd be looking at Jalen Phillips, Gregory Rujo, people of that caliber, which you would have to drop back to get. Exactly. You trade back.

Trade back to, say, number 15 with a certain team in New England. But again, would Minnesota take one of them, would take them before? Take who? Like Jalen Phillips has been mocked to Minnesota before, just like Cody Paye was mocked to them before. So they might take an edge rusher. It's possible. We'll have to see what happens.

I think they're going to take – yeah, it's really – I mean, with what's happened in this offseason, I'm really reluctant to make any sort of opinion on what's going to happen because literally, like, I've been – this has been the most wild offseason, and expect the unexpected. They could very well just use that number eight pick. And they're going to trade Teddy Bridgewater. I don't think he's going to stay.

And it's going to be this offseason. There's no way that he's going to want to back up Sam Darnold. And, you know, they're going to trade to that he's going to want to back up sam darnold and you know they're going to trade him somewhere there's going to be a team out there that's quarterback needy uh that eighth overall pick your guess is as good as mine but they don't need a quarterback anymore and you know that opens up the possibility to teams who are very quarterback needy to call up and try to trade up for. I just don't think there's any needs out there that – there's no needs up there at number eight for the Panthers. They have – how was their – their offensive line was okay.

Maybe they addressed that but you know that run defense was atrocious and that pass rush needed needs work too all right so you're more feeling of trading back yes now i think they that's what they should do what they will do your guess is as good as mine with the now with sam darnold coming off the trade market and and not and another um another team that who was in the quarterback market in the the the panthers they have now they have they're now off uh there's been a lot of quarterbacks who have all been projected to go uh to go early in this draft and a lot of teams uh early in this draft who are projected to go early in this draft who do need a quarterback um and now with carolina out of the race what do you think this means to all those teams say a

denver or the an atlanta maybe or a new england what is what does this mean for them well for an atlanta team it doesn't mean much because they were already ahead of like denver and carolina to begin with so again if they still want a quarterback they can take one no problem justin fields will be available or trey lance it really depends on how they value them and if they want like another prospect like a cow pitsin-a-decade type of prospect. I don't think it affects Atlanta that much. I think Denver, if they don't believe Drew Locke is their guy, which... They don't. There's no way.

I don't think he's the guy, but again, give him another year, see what he's got. But even then, it would have to come down to either Justin Fields or Trey Lance, and it depends on who they would prefer. And then after them, after Denver, I don't really see anybody else picking a quarterback until New England at 15. So they would get their pick of the letter or the final pick of quarterbacks and they'd get their franchise guy. And I think under Bill Belichick, whoever they get would be a decent to a competent or at least a Pro Bowl quarterback, no matter who they get. Because all five of them are first round talent. So if you're a first-round talent, you do have pro-hold capabilities in you. So as far as what Carolina does, it just increases the chances that New England can just stay at 15, not having to give up draft capital to get a quarterback

and just stay right there. Or if they really feel like it, they could just trade with Carolina to get up to the eighth pick and secure either Justin Fields or Trey Lance, whoever they prefer at the time so look since Carolina's now out of now who was projected to take a Justin Fields or a Trey Lance they're now off the market so this really helps a lot of teams that actually need a quarterback now so what this could mean what this means is that there there's a higher chance that that a quarterback actually that teams actually that need a quarterback is are going to take are going they're going to wind up with their guy who they want they have a better chance of that now one two and three

are pretty locked up at this point is that trevor lawrence zach Wilson, and most likely Mac Jones. After that, your guess is as good as mine. We don't know if Atlanta is going to take a quarterback. If they do, they're going to take whatever's left. I saw in a mock draft, and we were talking about Detroit yesterday, about how there's no possibility they could take a quarterback. I did see in a mock draft by CBS that was from earlier today projecting that Justin Fields would go to Detroit. What do you think about that? That'd be a tough one because they're still under Jericho's contract. So not likely, but it's still always a possibility i guess possibility they would have

to figure out a way to get rid of jared golf and i'm not sure if there would be any takers either so i guess they have to sit on it that's true uh denver denver is probably the biggest that's a team where i look at and i say that team makes the most sense to draft a quarterback everywhere else they're fairly they're pretty set i think their run defense was iffy but it was it the team where I look at and I say that team makes the most sense to draft a quarterback. Everywhere else, they're pretty set. I think their run defense was iffy, but it was good enough so that it's not a glaring need. They have a very good tight end with great potential. They have two very good wide receivers in Jerry Judy and Cortland Sutton. And they've loaded up that secondary over the offseason. So you look at that and really where's the big hole that they need to fill at number nine?

It's not in any of those other spots. It's at quarterback. I guess speed at linebacker might be a hole they need to fill. You guess, but what do you know they need? Speed. As much as I love Josie Jewell because he's a tackling machine, sometimes if it goes to outside zone, he may not be able to go there. So I'm like, Michael Parsons is right there.

If you guys need a linebacker, he's right there, even though I kind of want Joker to go to that spot because I think he's the number one linebacker. But either way, they would do the job. So do they need Micah Parsons more than they need Drew Locke? That's a tough one. Tough one? No. As in like quarterback of course you would take the quarterback there you take trey lance again but that field is there you take justin fields

but do they value them the same way like you and i do i think trey lance could be a franchise quarterback and i think in denver if he had time to develop then yes but under drew lock do you think that would happen? No. Yes. I'm not sure. I think John Elway still is infatuated with Drew Locke. See, I think they're going to move on from him.

I don't think – there's nowhere else. You have the number nine overall pick. If they really wanted to address somewhere else, another need, they would trade back. If they trade back, I'll say, yeah, they're probably not going to hit quarterback. But they are still at number nine as it stands. And if they stay at number nine, I think they're going to take a quarterback. It's just that's the biggest need for them. That's the biggest need. It's Drew.

Drew Locke had, you know, he had all of these players to play with, and he looked horrible all season long. Do you think he ever got, like, the chemistry down with him? Because, to be fair, this was a unique season because of COVID. They didn't really have a proper training camp to actually build chemistry. It was unique for everybody, but some quarterbacks actually succeeded.

Drew Locke was not one of those quarterbacks. Yeah. I think if some people actually do have a training camp, I think they will take more progressions and more strides and actually do better because they know what type of routes the receivers want to run and how the timing gets down.

So that's the only saving grace I would say about Drew Locke. Other than that, that's it. Maybe try to get another quarterback, but I wouldn't say go for it, go for it, go for it right now. I would go for it. They're not doing it. What are they going to do with drew lock where else are you going to send him though he's just he's he's just sitting there while the

quarterback while all this young talent is getting older they're they're spending all these years on their rookie deals if you're going to take a quarterback the time is now not in a couple of years when jerry judy only has a few years left on his contract. Not in a few years when, and I believe Cortland Sutton, he's coming up to be a free agent in a couple of years. Is it next year or the year after? The time is now to get this team going or else they may never, you know, Noah Fant is going to be, they have a great young core of pass catchers. You can't just sit here and say, well, we're going to wait for Drew Locke.

No, Drew Locke is a bum. He's a bona fide scrub. Say that again. Say that again for the audience at home. Drew Locke is a bona fide scrub say that again say that again for the audience at home drew lock is a bonafide scrub it's no disrespect to him whatsoever to quote a famous man who works for espn right now he was talking about kwame brown but we're talking about drew lock in the same life because he deserves it it's drew lock just let it go man you You're making him sound like Mr. Marcus Russell.

Here's my thing with these teams that need a quarterback. This is a prime opportunity for my New England Patriots. I don't want to just make this about New England, but they do need a quarterback.

The Panthers this about new england but they do need a quarterback and if they don't need the panthers do not need a quarterback anymore the patriots do panthers are at number eight patriots at number 15 so when you do when you look at it now they could trade picks and and Carolina gets their guy at number 15 and they get an extra asset. Say they give up a second round next year or a first round next year. It'll probably be – what do you think it'll be, first or second round next year? Or a second round this year? Second? Yeah. Second.

I'll take that. Well, I would take that because a second would be better than a first for my team to give up. But – and they get their guy. They get an extra asset, and it's a positive step in the right direction. Patriots, they draft Justin Fields. They're going in the right direction. They get that final piece. I think I mentioned this a couple episodes ago when they first got all of this talent through free agency,

the New England Patriots. It's like a car. They build a car and they don't put an engine in. Are you going to use that car? What's what's the point of making this, putting all these parts together and not putting in, like, the driving, that star of the show? They have Cam Newton. There's no point to that. They have Cam Newton. Give me a break with Cam Newton. You can take him and shove him up your ass.

They got Superman. Yeah, Cam Newton. If they had anybody else besides Cam Newton, they would be Super Bowl contenders. With that roster. Okay. That defense is as good as any team. Let's calm down.

You riled me up. You worked me up. Easy there, Bucko. Super Bowl contenders, let's ease back down. Playoff contenders, sure. Super Bowl contenders. With a better quarterback than Cam Newton? Yes. If they still had Tom Brady, this team would be. Super Bowl contenders. With a better quarterback than Cam Newton? Yes.

If they still had Tom Brady, this team would be a Super Bowl contender. Who wants the next topic, man? Yeah, we will. All right. Now, there was also a tweet earlier today. This episode was recorded on Wednesday, the 6th, now earlier today, Adam Schefter tweeted out that since this trade happened with Sam Darnold, since another quarterback has been taken off the market, teams have been reaching out to Atlanta about their number four overall pick. Now we were talking about earlier how if they were to stay there and, and I think if they, if they stayed there, they, it would, they'd probably take a quarterback. Um, if they stay that, that pick, they'll wind up with anything that's left,

which will likely be Trey Lance, Justin Fields, or I believe it's one of the two. Um, so they could, so, um, do you think, and so teams have been calling them up and they've been drafting and teams have been calling them up and they have, have been asking been asking about this pick and atlanta has shown a willingness to to uh negotiate on this so do you think atlanta will shop the number four pick with some teams growing more desperate for a quarterback if i'm'm Atlanta, I have to make a decision about whether or not I believe Matt Ryan will take us to a Super Bowl. If the answer is yes, you take the number four pick, either you trade back to get more assets to build around him, or you could take Cal Pitts right now and actually make that

offense just unbelievable. With Julio Jones, Calvin Ridley, and Cal Fitz. I mean, it's pretty hard to stop. So if they get the Cal Fitz to help Matt Ryan, and if they do believe Matt Ryan can take them to the Super Bowl, that's what they should do, or trade back to get more assets. If they don't believe in Matt Ryan to get the job done, the only quarterback they said they're willing to take in this draft is Justin Fields. So if they are infatuated or if they do want Justin Fields, they'll sit there and just say, I want him and I'm not moving regardless of the phone calls or whatever. We want Justin Fields as the franchise, as the guy to take over when we move on from that Ryan. And so

I guess that's a conversation they're just going to have to sit down and talk about this number four overall pick if I'm New England would I be like hammering for the number four overall pick no not really because if Carolina is willing to go up their number eight overall pick why would I go all the way up to give more capital if I can just sit at eight and just wait for the one or the other to give up their positions and then just pick the other of the two quarterbacks. And I'm not losing out on anything more than I have to. So I don't know. I think it depends on what Atlanta wants and what other teams are willing to give up to Atlanta for it. If I'm New England, I'm hopefully talking to Carolina right now to get that number eight overall pick.

If I'm Atlanta, I might keep it. If I believe in Matt Ryan and try to get him like a Jamar Chase, a Kyle Pitts, or a Devontae Smith, if I don't believe in Matt Ryan, I will draft a quarterback. So if there's another thing we could talk about with this and is that the fact that they're willing to shop this pick doesn't does this kind of give you an idea that atlanta isn't really interested in a quarterback because you know really like it seems like if you really want a quarterback you're gonna get that guy and you're not gonna listen to any calls on uh this number four pick but they're listening to him and they have you're not going to listen to any calls on this number four pick.

But they're listening to him and they have a willingness to trade it. So I wonder if they're even going to take a quarterback, if they might have their eyes on Kyle Pitts. Maybe I'm going to backtrack a little bit from my last take a few seconds ago saying that if they stay at four, they'll draft a quarterback. They might be looking at Kyle Pitts, to be honest. That team is awesome at wide receiver. They could get awesome at tight end, and that team is a force. They go all in with Matt Ryan. What was that?

You don't like Hayden Hurst as your tight end? I mean the Ravens love them. I don't mind Hayden Hurst, but who I love is Kyle Pitts. And it just comes down to priorities. So, I mean, that's just a little side thing. But, you know, yeah, if you're New England, you trade up to number eight. And you take that pick. And plus that's just too many assets you could give up if you're going to be going all in on a quarterback.

If you think that either Justin Fields or Trey Lance is going to fall to number eight or nine. Now, we've already discussed the Broncos are at number nine. They might wind up taking a quarterback. I think they most likely will. Now, that leaves Carolina at eight. It comes down to number four or number eight. I want to know what other team is asking about the number four pick. Who's asking about this number four pick?

I wonder. The team that I can think of off the top of my head is the Chicago Bears. But do they have the draft capital to give up for him? They would have to put up with their future. They'd have to give up first-round picks for the next few years. But Chicago's crazy. They were going all in for Russell Wilson. They could do the same for this pick since they're growing desperate.

They just had to settle on Andy Dalton. It's not going well right now for them. The Red Rifle. Man, I love just hyping up that guy just because he has that nickname. And he really does. He lives up to that name just because of his hair.

Like no other reason. Just the fact that he has pretty good hair. He does a good job on his hair that's what i will say if he was as good at styling his hair as he is at quarterback he'd be a hall of famer oh would you stop just look at that hair it's amazing i'd rather not i already know a ginger his name is brian and he needs to listen to andy dalton when it comes to styling his hair he doesn't know when and Dalton. He only has you.

Just look at, just all you have to do is turn on the TV, watch that Bears game, and look at that beautiful hair and be like, dude, I need to turn this crap around. He does fine with his hair. I think Brian does an okay job. Yeah. Could be better. Alright, back on top.

Brian is out tonight, by the way. Yeah, so I think Atlanta is definitely going to shop this. I think Atlanta is definitely going to shop this. I think Atlanta is going to shop this pick. And just the fact that they've shown a willingness to tells me that, number one, they don't want a quarterback. If they were, they wouldn't be so nonchalant about this if they were looking to get a quarterback. If you're taking a quarterback, you're really looking to get a quarterback. If you're taking a quarterback, you're really looking to get a quarterback.

And if you're just, well, we'll listen. I think they have their sights on somebody else, and they think they might, which could be Kyle Pitts, and they might be saying, you know, Kyle Pitts might go a little further back. Talk to Washington or something. That's not happening. Washington. They could be talking to Washington.

Yeah, could be. It's a possibility. But they got Taylor Heineke. Oh, yeah, yeah. They have the GOAT Taylor Heineke. Oh, my God. That's a possibility. Yeah, we'll see.

We'll see. We'll see. All right, now, that'll do it for us tonight. Thank you for listening to us. Make sure you subscribe to our YouTube channel. Check us out on Spotify and Google Play. Also, be sure to follow our Instagram at FumbleRooski underscore podcast to keep up with our podcast and the latest coverage on the NFL.

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