The Fumblerooski Podcast - Decisions, Decisions -Ep 163 The Fumblerooski Podcast

Episode Date: February 26, 2023

What does this darkness retreat tell the Packers about Aaron Rodgers' character? Are the Rams trying to salvage their contending team or are they going into a complete rebuild mode? Adam Wright, CJ Medeiros, and Justin Tucker debate these topics and more!

Here's Edelman broken up and the pass is no sign yet. Edelman comes down with a football and they're saying it's a catch. It's a pass! To Gates. Side-line. Touchdown. Unbelievable. Swings it way down the field to Watkins.

Sammy Watkins for the touchdown. Touchdown. Aaron Rodgers has emerged from his darkness retreat and he has we don't we don't know if he's seen his shadow yet and lamar jackson is also uh still working on his contract with the ravens with the rams appearing to start a mini fire sale i I'm Adam Wright with CJ Medeiros and Justin Tucker. You're listening to the Fumble Rooski podcast by Power 88 and Secret Weapon Consulting. So I mentioned a little bit when I gave our opening little intro. A couple of things going on, two of them with some franchise quarterbacks. Aaron Rodgers still does not know what's going on. We're with some franchise quarterbacks aaron rogers still does not know

what's going on we're going to talk about that lamar jackson and the ravens are reportedly still pretty far apart on the on a deal with the franchise tag deadline just just over a week away on march 7th as we are recording this on february 26th um but we are going to start out guys with the rate with the rams so earlier on this past week they released linebacker bobby wagner who they just acquired this past offseason this last offseason um for cap space uh for for cap space purposes they're projected to save about five mil in cap space despite the massive deal they gave them um because of dead dead cap money and so now they're they're expected to trade cornerback jaylen ramsey so nothing is as

official yet they may never deal them but according to reports it appears that it is likely that jaylen ramsey is on the move and that will also be, uh, for cap space purposes. So if they are to deal, uh, Jalen Ramsey, and once they do make the release of Bobby Wagner official, that will save about 11 million cap space, give or take. And they're 14 under, uh, they're, they're 14 over the cap right now. So basically with this deal, I mean, it's hard to tell what they are. Well, we know what they're trying to do, but the question right now is are they just taking a minor step back just to move a little bit forward,

or is this hitting the reset button for them? Are they stripping this down to the bone? I think that's, I think that's going to depend on what, on how they manage things going forward. Cause they are going to get way, they're having, they're going to have to get way under the cap just to replace the likes of Jalen Ramsey and Bobby Wagner to any sort of extent. This is a good free agency class for the defense. So they do have their options of players to replace them with, but they have to get way under the cap just to afford them. So, I mean, what do you guys think?

This is a sticky situation for the Rams, who are still trying to eke out that last piece of their championship window. Oh man. What do I even say to this? Uh, first things first, Bobby Wagner, bet you wish you were in Baltimore now. I never forget. Uh, that's number one. Number two, if they are doing the fully ripped and rebuilt situation, which I think they're starting to gear towards, I'm not even sure if Aaron Donald comes back. Cause I don't

think he wants to be a part of another rebuild. So I believe sooner or later, if that's what they're doing, he'll either go into retirement or he'll ask for a trade. And that'll be something the NFL might take notice of because how much will Aaron Donald be worth now, which is what I'm thinking about considering. So when I look at it like that, it's like if Bobby Wagner's gone, Jalen Ramsey's on the move, Aaron Donald potentially can be moved as well. It's like, yeah, I'd see this as a little, I see this as a rebuild. And I don't see them like taking steps to move forward. I think they're fully stepping back and going, hitting the reset mode.

I don't really see it as them making the playoffs this year. If they're trying to tear things down already. I mean, you're absolutely right. Bringing up the defense here with Aaron Donald, because while it has in past years been pretty elite that this Rams defense, it's a little top, it's a little top heavy as well like they they rely on their big three of Bobby Wagner Aaron Donald and Jalen Ramsey they've had other pieces in the past but a lot of those guys are gone now and also um

now that they if if they lose those three, then what do they have on that defense? They're going to have to rebuild it completely. And as I mentioned before, by getting rid of these two players on their defense, they're still going to be over the cap by about 4 mil. So they're still going to have to restructure a lot of deals in order to do that. And some players may not even be willing to take on that. And if this is going to happen, then Aaron Donald's going to be out the door. Now, Adam, well, let me tell you something.

I know we were talking about the Rams trying to eke out that last bit of juice from their championship window, to which I say, wake up and smell the coffee, Rams. It's over. You sold your soul for that championship. You went all in. You got your ring. But guess what?

Now the bills come due. You're mired in cap hell. You're going to have to cut all your good players if you want even a modicum of cap space. And chances are, you might not even get a first for Jalen Ramsey because of his contract alone. So the thing is, you're right, they're having a fire sale, and they're going to be mediocre for a while, not even bad, just mediocre.

They're going to ride out their major Matt Stafford's contract. I mean, you still have guys like Cooper Cup as well, but Aaron Donald's been mulling retirement for the past two seasons, and you were this close to losing Sean McVay as well. And if you suck, or at least are mediocre another year, Sean McVay might just pack his bags and head out. Then what are you going to do? I'll tell you what you're going to do. You're going to be screwed.

So for the Rams, you can't – don't be like the Saints because, you know, every year the Saints dance around their cap. They make limited moves just to be mediocre. Don't be the Saints. Take it on the chin. Face your cap issues head on. And you just – you got to wait, unfortunately. Wait until you actually have a first-round pick, you know.

Wait until you, you know, actually have cap space because you're not going to be good for at least three to five more years. This is the downside of saying F them picks. This is because you don't have a future when you are if you suck. And if you're a top five pick and you don't control that pick it makes things even worse for you because you can't get a really good player in the draft now that's correct yeah and the more i think about this the more i think that the rams are going to have to hit the reset button because it's not just once they get rid of these uh players officially they're not just going to have to improve on that part if they're going to get back into contention they're also

they also already have a glaring hole on the offensive line they weren't able to replace andrew whitworth who retired uh joe noteboom was not the answer and he got hurt as well so where do you go from there you have two big spots that you need to work on. You still need to figure out if Allen Robinson can actually still play or not. And Matthew Stafford needs to get healthy and stay healthy, especially with that offensive line. So there's just too many things to look at. They still have some pieces they

have matthew stafford they have cooper cup they have jalen ramsey at the moment and they have aaron donald still if they if they really if they want to do this right they might actually have to hit the reset button and not only do that, but sell off all of their players in a fire sale and get rid of them so that you can get some significant draft capital to rebuild your team. Because right now, I mean, you really did set yourself up to, you know, you set yourself up to, once you're done contending, fall apart for the next few years. I mean, they kind of backed themselves in a corner like this.

Yeah, and Adam and Tuck, speaking of rebuilding, there's an old saying called, Rome wasn't built in a day. And if you think about it, that would encapsulate the Rams because we we say like, oh, maybe, you know, give it three to four, maybe five more years, and they'll be good. I just realized something. That's incorrect. Because then they're going to start having picks. Then they're going to be out of cap hell. And then, then then like after about three years then you can officially start the rebuild so in reality we're probably looking at maybe even six seven years before you're even remotely in contention again you know barring you hit in the late round and get like the next tom brady i don't know we'll see with them i, I don't think it'll take six or seven years,

but we'll see with them. It'll take a few years at least if they're going to hit the reset button, but they're going to have to pull a lot of strings just to stay out, just to stay in contention where they are right now. If that, because they were actually one of the worst teams in the league this year

when they were supposed to be in contention for a championship again. But I wanted to move on. So next we're going to talk about Aaron Rodgers, how he emerged from what we call a darkness retreat. And what happens next? Because he did say he was going to make a decision and that still hasn't happened yet. Three days removed from ending that retreat that's next you're listening to the fumble ruski podcast here's edelman broken up in the past

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Unbelievable. Swings it way down the field to Watkins. Sammy Watkins for the touchdown! This is the Fumble Rooski Podcast by Power 88 and Secret Weapon Consulting. Adam Wright, CJ Medeiros, Justin Tucker with you tonight. Alright, so as I teased before the end of last segment, Aaron Rodgers finally came out of his darkest retreat and he promised that after he came out of it, that he would come to a decision. It has been three days and he hasn't said a word since. So it's either he's contemplating

something. It's going to come eventually. What he's going to decide is one thing. I'm still grasping the fact that this actually happened. This guy... Oh, brother. If you've seen a picture of what this place looked like, if you've ever seen The Hobbit, the Lord of the Rings movies, it looked exactly like that.

One of those bunkers, it's partially underground, it has a door, it has a tiny little adorable living space. And if he wants to do that like whatever he needs to do to make a decision that's fine but why did he have to address to the media i'm gonna go into this intense dramatic darkness retreat for four days doing god knows what to figure out what i'm going to do and then then right after, I'm going to tell you guys what I'm going to do. Well, I'll tell you why. It's to get attention. I think he just wants to be traded.

I think that's perfectly fine. I think he's doing whatever it takes to get traded. I think his time in Green Bay has run its course. It's been run its course, to be honest. I think he just wants to go. I think that's all that is. And Green Bay just won't trade him. And like, yeah.

That's kind of the point I'm making here. No one, if he was going to retire, he wouldn't have set up all this stuff. You don't go through all of this effort just to say, you know what, I'm hanging it up. You attract all this attention from the media. You tell everyone that

you're going to do this. And then you say you're going to walk attention from the media. You tell everyone that you're going to do this. And then you say you're going to walk away from the game. No, he's setting up a narrative for next season when he's back on the Packers or going to the Raiders or the Jets. I don't think this is – I just don't – I think I am very – I wouldn't rule it out just yet, but I'm this close to saying it's absolutely 100% he is not retiring. No one does this just to come out of retirement.

We learned this from Brett Favre. He teases retirement for years, and he always came back. It got to the point where the Packers got sick of it, and they traded his ass out of there. I can't believe we're talking about this. I hear you, Adam. I do, I do. But do you want to know why Aaron Rodgers is doing this?

Because believe it or not, I have an answer. Because he, in the words of Tony Stark, he's a full tilt diva. That's what he is. He's a drama queen. That's what he is. He's a drama queen. That's what he does. He wants all the speculation on him, all the media attention on him. He relishes this, and he's going to milk it as long as he possibly can. That is just who he is.

It's woven into his character, for God's sake. Oh, my God. Every quarterback is a diva. Oh, my God. He's such a drama queen. Every year he gets the media playing his game. Ooh, will I go to the Packers? Will I go somewhere else? I don't believe it. I will not believe he's leaving until he actually does. Because this is the third straight year where he's playing the media like a fiddle and I'm not buying into it. I am not. Yeah, look, I completely understand why you wouldn't buy into it just because of what happened in the past few off seasons. But it's just this year is a lot different than the past couple of them. Because before he didn't really have much

reason to leave. He had the coaching that he wanted. He had the offense that he wanted. He had a defense that continued to get better and still is a pretty good defense. This year it's different. He still has all that, but the offensive line is not quite as good as it once was. And he doesn't have that wide receiver one that he's had his whole career. He doesn't have Devontae Adams anymore. Jordy Nelson has long been retired. And he even used to have the likes of James Jones and Randall Cobb as wide receiver twos. He doesn't have that either. Marcus Valdez-Scantling's gone.

So he literally, he actually now has reason to believe that he wants to be out of here he has reason now it i just think people aren't believing it because it's the boy who cried wolf oh my god during all the during all of these seasons where he has had no reason to leave so he's contemplating it and the fans are now not buying it they're saying well you said that the past couple offices oh brother i can't believe i do believe that there is a good chance he gets traded i do believe that i don't think he's retiring because otherwise he wouldn't be doing this whole fiasco where he's going underground for four days and telling the media he's going to do it. He can do that in private. That's fine.

But I'm just saying. You guys are way too harsh on the Amarantas. Number one, he's had reason before as to why he's wanted to leave Green Bay. They literally drafted his successor when he won the MVP, I believe. That, no, no. I think it was the year before, right? Yeah, I think it was the year before. And then he won MVP twice in a row. So yeah, they probably thought he was getting on the other side. One of those was Brady's. No. One of those was Brady's. Come on. Stop it. You throw

43 touchdown passes to just 12 picks. You lead the league in both touchdown passes and passing yards, and you don't win league MVP. This is all a side note to what we're trying to talk about. Oh, brother. We'll get to Brady in a second because I like how we talk about Aaron Rodgers threatening to retire, but Brady actually did and then came back, and we all have no problem with that.

Adam, you've even said, I think he's going to retire. So when we talk about this, I can't take it serious because we all know how we feel about Brady on this show. So let's not even go there. Number one, number two, he's had reasons before as to why he wants to leave. They just won't get rid of him. I've been, I've been saying it for years. He should be traded. They just won't do it. They believe they can milk this as long as they can until either Rodgers gets up, can't play anymore, or Jordan Love's contract expires. One or the other has to do it. I think they should just trade him and start Jordan Love as quarterback. I think I've seen enough from him to be like, he can manage the ship until you actually give him some quality weapons. And then

you can see what you actually have. Butaron rogers deserves to be traded and he deserves to go another place like brady and if he wants another title i never ever want to hear that it's just aaron rogers's fault it's not it's green bay well you know here's the thing talk if you are green bay right now i feel like you would do the exact same thing that they're doing. You hold on to him and you do whatever you can to contend with him. I know they haven't done that. They haven't at all. But they've done one of the two things right, which is hold on to him.

Because he is an all-time great quarterback. And as long as you have him, you are going to have a chance. Just like the slogan for the Patriots back in their days. As long as you have Brady, you have a chance. It's the same thing with Aaron Rodgers. And if they let him go, it's not always going to be like a transition from Brett Favre to Aaron Rodgers. I think that's very rare to see in the NFL. We've seen it twice before.

We saw it with the 49ers transitioning from Joe Montana to what's his name? Blanking on it. Steve Young. And then we saw it from the Packers once. Can we see that again? Can lightning strike twice in the same spot? I don't know about that. Maybe Brady and Mac Jones.

Maybe Brady and Mac Jones. Come on, man. That's also not the same thing because we had a year of Cam Newton, Superman Cam over there. And we don't need to talk about that anymore. That's just – we don't talk about 20 – excuse me. We don't talk about 2020 for the Patriots. We don't talk about that.

We talk about 2018 where the patriots we don't talk about that we talk about 2018 where they won a super bowl and we can talk about 2021 where mac jones led the team to the playoffs but still that's another side note but listen i'm just saying like if once be careful what you wish for as as packer fans because it's it's not as easy as you might think to go from one Hall of Fame quarterback to the next guy. And expect to contend very soon. That's hard to do. You have Aaron Rodgers. You have a couple years left.

Surround him with what you can to win a championship and go try and do that. Because you can't keep taking him for granted. You just can't do that because you don't have much. You can't keep taking him for granted. You just can't do that. Yeah, treat Aaron Rodgers like he's the only diva at the quarterback position. All of them are divas for the most part. All of them. Yeah, well, we didn't say they weren't, but is it a crime to point out that Rodgers is also one?

No, I think that's been evident for years, but I don't see a problem with it. Why are you so upset with us calling him out? I mean. You're making it seem like it's specifically him. I think that's right. I mean, I didn't say anything that was incorrect. I'm just saying.

You said I think it was like massive ego. Yeah. Most quarterbacks have it, but that doesn't mean I can't say Rogers doesn't have it. Yeah. I don't think anybody will disagree with that, but I think that's just the way it is as a quarterback. If you're the franchise guy, of course you're going to have like a massive ego. That's all.

All right. We're going to digress on this topic, and we're going to change gears and head to Tuck's Ravens. So Lamar Jackson in the Ravens. That's been an issue ever since preseason. So he's going to be a free agent if they don't give him the franchise tag, which they most likely will. And he turned down a massive 200 plus million dollar deal and it seemed like they were getting

close but another wrench has been thrown into the machine we're going to talk about that next this is the fumble ruski podcast Here's Edelman broken up and the pass is no sign yet. Edelman comes down with a football and they're saying it's a catch. It's caught! To Gates! Sideline! Touchdown! Unbelievable!

Slings it way down the field to Watkins! Sammy Watkins for the touchdown! This is the Fumble Rooski Podcast by Power 88 and Secret Weapon Consulting. Adam Wright, CJ Medeiros, Justin Tucker. So, Lamar Jackson and his current team, the Baltimore Ravens, have been working towards a deal for quite a while now. And it seemed like they were starting to get closer but now there is has been another issue to um to arise in this whole fiasco so apparently lamar jackson's camp

offered gave a counter offer that is not only not only matches deshaun Watson's deal, but actually exceeds his guaranteed money. This is all according to ESPN's Jameson Hensley and Jeremy Fowler. I gotta say, this is not looking great for Lamar Jackson. And according to other reports, he won't even play on the franchise tag. So they're going to have to come to a deal soon, or else this Ravens team is going to anticipate he's not going to want to be here anymore, and they're going to have to trade him.

But, Tuck, I'll throw it to you first. Don't say that. Don't say that out into the universe. Hopefully he stays. Hopefully he continues to rock that Ravens team he has. Oh, my. Yeah, hopefully, we can find a new deal. That's the only thing I'll... This situation is so unfortunate. Now, granted, I don't think it was this bad when we had to deal with Joe Flacco's contract because we just had to cave in because he just won a Super Bowl.

The problem is, why did Deshaun Watson have to get that deal? He didn't deserve it. When he first got that five-year, 135 deal with Houston, then Cleveland said, watch this, and gave him that ridiculous contract worth $46 million a year. Why did this have to happen? I think if it came down to it i think the ravens will forcefully give it to him but at the same time it's like come on 50 million guaranteed each year that's i think that's a lot i can't think about it in like percentage wise but i think that takes a lot of the cap for each year now if they can rearrange it to where they can can turn it into a signing bonus and like that, then I'd be okay with it and I'd be fine with it.

But this situation, hopefully they can come to a resolution soon because it sounds like it's getting out of control very fast. Yeah, and it's hard to find a way out for this Ravens team. Because even if they do give him this money, that leaves him with not that much money to give him the pieces that he needs to contend around him. Not just on the offensive side, but the defense as well. And they have a couple of free agents, including Marcus Peters, who's been a big part of that secondary for the past couple of years. I mean, it's hard to see a way out for this team.

I mean, they've been reasonably competitive under Lamar Jackson the past couple of years, besides the injuries that he's had. But in order to get over that hump, they need to improve this team, not just maintain what they have right now so that's that's really the tricky part here yeah it's just i mean this is a classic situation right here of the old saying damned damned if you do, damned if you don't. Because if you pay Lamar, chances are you can't afford to fix that offense and get him the true help that he needs.

You're like a better O-line and a wide receiver one. Or a running back who can stay healthy. But if you don't pay him, then you're back to square one and you're going to need a quarterback. Because Lamar is not a bum. You know, he won I keep saying this he's too injury prone and we all know your best ability is your availability he is not worth what I mean Deshaun Watson's not worth his deal either but neither is Lamar Lamar is just not worth a 200 million dollar deal you know he is just not fully guaranteed yeah okay fine you know I'll give you that. Not fully guaranteed. If you're going to give him a fully guaranteed deal that's over $200 million, that's just going to kill your team.

And it's just, if I'm the Ravens, I think they have every right to have every reservation about paying him that much money. Like I said, I would be on the Lamar bandwagon a whole lot more if he could stay healthy. But if your quarterback's only playing 10, 11 games a year, then it's just not worth it. Yeah. I mean, there's not much more to add here.

I mean, we all kind of hit the nail on the head here. They're in a tricky situation. And it's also worth noting, is it worth the Ravens actually paying Lamar? Yes. Well, is it? It's worth it. He's missed the past couple of seasons. He's missed the end of both of each of the last two seasons, especially in 2021.

I mean, that was a real heartbreaker above this past year. I mean, that team was one of the better teams in the league, and then the injury bug smashed them, and they couldn't stay in contention. They couldn't. They wound up with a sub-500 record in the playoffs. Adam, I want you to understand, last year was upsetting. This year just hurt because within the last four months or I want to say within the last four weeks of the season,

we could not get above 20 points. We could not do it. 20 was the benchmark. We could not get above it once. We need Lamar on our team. Right, but they had Lamar on the team. He was on the roster. No, he wasn't healthy.

Exactly. If he can't stay healthy, then that's a bit of a problem. I don't blame the health thing on Lamar. He's staying in the pocket. It's not so much of him running. It's just for some reason, Greg Roman decided, let me put a tight end on a pass rusher and see what happens. He found out what happened and we lost our quarterback for the season. I don't want that to happen again. I believe our new offensive coordinator is better. He'll plan accordingly to Lamar Jackson, and we won't have stupid decisions like that happening. So yeah, I don't think it's the injury bug as we're all thinking, but again, I guess that's

a fair assumption that he'll get injured. I don't believe he'll get injured next year. I think the offensive line will be better because I believe Ronnie Stanley will stay healthy. I think the right side of the tackle will be fine because he now has a year under the belt. I think overall, I think the offense will be majorly upgraded in more ways than one. I think we'll see the progression that we all think we'll see from Lamar. I hope you're right.

Yeah, I do hope you're right i hope i yeah i do hope you're right but when you miss a combined 11 games out of the past two seasons yeah that's a bit of a problem that's not just you miss it was one and one injury from just one fluke play where something happens that's that's i mean that's a trend right there 11 games in two seasons how many is kyler murray going this that's from one acl tear and i also i mean kyler murray's another issue as well i mean i'm not letting kyler off those injuries oh no and kyler doesn't deserve all the money he's getting either. Yeah, I mean, that's kind of a two- No, he does not. I hated it then and I hate it now. If they're willing to pay him, that's what he's worth. It's kind of a two things are true at once kind of thing

with Kyler Murray as well. I mean, not only his work ethic, I mean, the amount he games. I didn't know it was an issue before, but then when they added the incentives in his new deal where you have to do your homework, it's a requirement when that should be something you're already doing once you're on the professional level. That should be just common sense. I don't think the amount of games you play dictates the amount of money you make. If that was the case, Deshaun Watson wouldn't have made

the money he made. Calamari wouldn't have made the money he made, and certain other quarterbacks wouldn't have made the money they've made. I don't think it has anything to do with you have to look you have to look at the context behind it as well deshaun watson had other issues going on and he still got me exactly but that's that's not in that's not injuries injuries are a much different thing especially when it's a trend games either or by hook or by crook. The best ability is availability. He wasn't available due to off-field transgressions, whether he's innocent or not. He missed 11 to 12 games.

As much as we want to hold it against Lamar, it's not an ACL tear. It's just ankle injuries, which are way better than an ACL tear. I'd rather have Lamar with missing 11 games than Kyler Murray trying to come back from an ACL tear. I'd rather have Lamar with missing 11 games than Kyler Murray trying to come back from an ACL tear. Well, ACL tears happen. But when you have constant nagging ankle issues for a dual-threat quarterback, then that opens some eyes there.

That becomes a bit of an issue. I don't think it'll be as much of an issue as everybody thinks, but i guess we'll have to wait and see on that all right well we will have to wait and see especially on his availability because either way whether he's on the ravens or on a different team he is going to be playing and we are going to figure out whether or not he can stay healthy that'll be something where you're just have to we're just going to have to wait and see.

But anyways, do we have anything else we wanted to bring up before we end the show tonight? Nope, I'm good. I'm good. Tom Brady, congratulations on collecting your AARP check. Way to go. Congratulations on a wonderful career and best of luck in your future endeavors with Fox. You've been waiting for three years to

say that. You've been saying that for years about the double AARP checks. He could have easily come back for another year and been still pretty good. Listen, if you want him to get hurt again, then be my guest. He didn't get hurt. Tom my guest he didn't get hurt

tom brady he didn't get hurt he tore his acl like 14 years ago but i mean clearly that clear i think that acl is kind of fine i think it's all right he won a couple mvps won a few super bowls went there a couple times he had a pretty good career. He was solid. I can tell that ACL tear got to him a little bit. All right. He never threw 50 touchdowns again. I guess we'll say that much.

He had a decline there. All right. But I digress. He never made the Pro Bowl again. What? He never made the Pro Bowl again, did he? Yes, he did. Like a million times. the Pro Bowl again, did he? Yes, he did. Like a million times.

He never played in it, but he was selected. No, no, no, no, no. I'm talking after the ACL because I think he missed out because of Kyler Murray. Oh, yep. In 2021, he threw for 41 touchdown passes. No, 40. He threw 40 touchdown passes. We don't need to go on. You're just trying to rile me up 40. He threw 40 touchdown passes. We don't need to go on.

You're just trying to rile me up now. He threw 41. Either way, you don't put in Kyler Murray over Tom Brady. That was ridiculous. Dumbest thing I have ever heard. I ain't got nothing else. I ain't got nothing else. All right.

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