The Fumblerooski Podcast - Directionless -Ep 185 The Fumblerooski Podcast

Episode Date: May 11, 2023

Which teams are entering this season without a clear direction for their franchise? How skeptical should we be about Justin Fields' potential? Are the Chiefs not smart to restructure Mahomes' deal?...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Here's Edelman broken up and the pass is no sign yet. Edelman comes down with a football and they're saying it's a catch. It's a catch! Today's skyline touchdown unbelievable! Slings it way down the field to Watkins! Sammy Watkins for the touchdown! Well, we enter the summer in this NFL offseason, and as we have mentioned, plenty of teams that are on the up and up and some looking not so hot.
Starting point is 00:00:56 There's also some other teams who have been, let's say, in football purgatory. This is the Fumble Rooski Podcast by Power 88 and Seek a Weapon Consulting, Adam Wright, CJ Medeiros, and Justin Tucker with you as always. And as we mentioned, we have a great show planned for you guys tonight. So we're going to talk about a lot of the teams who are directionless. Just doesn't look like they have picked where they are going to go. They don't look like they're going to rebuild, but they also don't look like they're ready to contend anytime soon. We're also going to talk about Justin Fields
Starting point is 00:01:30 and how some league executives have gotten a little skeptical, spoken out about his abilities. Also, the Chiefs rumored to want Mahomes restructure. Excuse me. So, how are we doing tonight, guys?
Starting point is 00:01:47 We ready to talk some football? Yeah, we're ready to go. Yeah, this is the funnest time ever to talk about football, right? Oh, exciting. Summer time. But we believe we will have a summer where we will talk plenty of football, some player rankings, stuff like that. And we'll just ironing out the details.
Starting point is 00:02:08 So we ask you to remain patient. Well, we appreciate your patience as we enter this summer and one of the great dead spots in the NFL world. But we're going to touch first on some of these directionless teams. And CJ gave off a bunch of names earlier on today. And I liked this one to top the list. I like the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. This is a team that is a bona fide has-been, right?
Starting point is 00:02:42 I mean, three years in a row they were they were championship contenders and now tom their star quarterback tom brady retired the rest of the team kind of is aging or if they are if they're not aging they're kind of towards the end of their primes but they have baker mayfield at quarterback and they haven't traded any of their star talent away to get to enter that rebuild yet. So what are we doing here? Right. What are we doing over there? Buccaneers.
Starting point is 00:03:11 CJ, what are your thoughts? Now, obviously, I'm not inside the organization, so I can't speak on this for a fact, but I believe that Tampa still fancies itself a contender, you know, seeing the state of the NFC South and the NFC as a whole. However, your quarterbacks are either going to be Baker Mayfield or Kyle Trask. That isn't good. Kyle Trask was drafted way too high, and Baker Mayfield, I don't know if he can just live up to that first overall billing anymore and i would suggest they tank but it's weird because their roster is not bad enough for them to take you know they have mike
Starting point is 00:03:52 evans they have uh chris godwin they've got a really good center and ryan jensen they've got another good o-lineman tristan werfs you know on the defense for now at least you have devon way and you have vita vea and you have Vita Veya and you have a, they still have Anton Winfield, right? At safety. Yep. Yep. Yep. And they still have their corner Jamel Dean. So like I said, it's not a bad enough team to tank that that's the issue. Damn good team around them. Yeah. So I feel like, I don't know, they're probably gonna try to get a legitimate quarterback this off season,
Starting point is 00:04:24 unless Baker Mayfield has a Geno Smith-type resurgence. But overall, they think they're contenders, I think, and they're not. Plain and simple, they're just not. They're going to be mediocre. Maybe they slip in as the seventh seed in the playoffs, but then they're just going to get smacked. They're not going anywhere but again i'm not like the problem is they're going in a direction where you think that they're which mccall that they're contenders but at the same time when you look at like their quarterback
Starting point is 00:04:56 position and a few other marietta pieces like nah they're not going to contend they'll be i believe like cj said there'll be a playoff team, like a 6 or 7 seed. But I don't think they'll go far in the playoffs unless they face off against Dallas. But that's neither here nor there. But when I look at this team, I'm like Baker Mayfield. You could do worse at quarterback other than Baker Mayfield. If he performs to his best, I think you have a quality player. I think he wants to perform at his best considering what's happened to his career over the last few years.
Starting point is 00:05:27 But I still think he can be that guy at quarterback. But this is obviously his last chance at being a full-time starting quarterback. When I look at the line that he has, I don't think they replaced Donovan Smith yet. I don't believe. But they still have a quality right tag on tristan warps who i hope switches over to left tackle for baker well by the way they drafted the ndsu tackle cody mock i think that's how you pronounce his name okay so they do have a potential starter at that position so all right so would you rather tristan warps go over to left and put mock at right just
Starting point is 00:06:03 absolutely that's what probably where i would go to they have a few marietta pieces and they Would you rather Tristan Wirbs go over to left and put Mock at right? Absolutely. That's probably where I would go to. They have a few Marietta pieces, and that defense is still looking overall pretty good when they have Levante, David, and Devin White in the middle, along with Villavea just clogging up the lanes. So overall, when I look at the NFC self, when I look at the NFC as a total, I'm like, not even by choice, by virtue, they'll win games where they shouldn't, and they'll squeak into the playoffs, not even of their own volition,
Starting point is 00:06:34 just because they'll just win enough games to make it, because I'm not sure how good or bad the NFC as a whole will be this year. You know, I am very surprised with the consensus here on this podcast i thought we would all be saying just sell the team and rebuild already but i'm hearing a lot of right now well this team around around the quarterback position is actually pretty good and if they just had that one guy then they they could actually make it in the playoffs and perhaps make some noise not Not by their choice. Not by choice.
Starting point is 00:07:07 I mean, just look at the NFC. It's not like we're picking them because they're like contenders. It's because the NFC South is absolutely abysmal. And the entire NFC doesn't look that good all the way outside of maybe like three or four teams. Well, two things can be true at once. The NFC South sucks, but they also have a pretty talented team around the quarterback position. If they had that guy, they wouldn't just be contenders in the NFC South. They would also be able to make some noise in the NFC. Not to say that the NFC is of any good a conference in itself itself but like they they have some talent around them if you have mike mike evans and chris godwin as your wide receivers one and two as a new england patriots fan
Starting point is 00:07:51 i would love i would kill to have godwin as the one but he's there too like that's awesome and like if they just had that quarterback but that that's the problem. It's very hard to find that guy. And I don't think you're going to find that in Kyle Trask and certainly not in Baker Mayfield either. So like it's I just feel like it's so much easier if they were just to sell the farm and collect some assets and build for the future. You'd be fishing with plenty of high-end draft picks, and you'd probably get a lot of draft picks with the players that you trade away. Mike Evans would easily fetch a first-round pick. Same with Chris Godwin. And with some of the defensive free agents that you have,
Starting point is 00:08:42 or free agents, players that you have under contract, I feel like you could get some good draft capital out of those guys too. So if you were to sell, you'd do pretty well with that. And I feel like this team would get back to contention a lot quicker than people anticipate if they manage it well enough, which it's Tampa Bay, so who knows if they can, but you know, that one, if they were to rebuild, that wouldn't be the worst thing in the world either, but that's the problem. That's why we named them a directionless team.
Starting point is 00:09:16 They don't seem like they've done enough to contend, but they haven't committed to rebuilding either. True. I will say this about Mike Evans. I'm not sure they'll give a first rounder to get Mike Evans. They might give like a high second, but I don't think they'll give a first rounder just based on age. He's about to turn 30. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:09:39 No, continue. If you trade two seconds, you could get a first. You want to give up two seconds and mike evans just to get back a first no i'm saying i'm saying if you have if you have enough day two picks collected then you could trade into the first round as well it depends on where the buccaneers will be at that time the new england Patriots do exist. But another directionless team I want to talk about is kind of the Arizona Cardinals. I don't know where they're going because they don't have their franchise quarterbacks kind of out for the season right now. So I don't think
Starting point is 00:10:18 they're in contention, even though they have a few miscellaneous pieces. But I don't think they'll go far, even if they did make the playoffs. They don't have Kyler, and I don't know if DeAndre Hopkins will stay on the team, and I'm not so sure about their running game or their defense right now. Yeah, that's a good pick, and that was a good one that was listed. But, I mean, that's a good pick because they have who they believe is their franchise guy he has made a he has made a pro bowl in the past he's put up pretty good statistics but he's hurt he's done for the year and even when he was healthy the team wasn't winning with him and they have talent around him so it's hard to say that they can just sell and go into rebuild mode.
Starting point is 00:11:07 Actually, it's almost impossible because they have that quarterback. They can't just rebuild when you have the guy. And you can't contend because, number one, you don't have the quarterback healthy. And also, when he is healthy, the team isn't winning. They're in a weird direction. And also, I don't know what to think about the organization now that we know that Cliff Kingsbury went to Thailand.
Starting point is 00:11:36 Not only did he quit football, he went into complete exile. This is Yoda going to Dagobah. Failed, I have. Failed to make the Arizonarizona cardinals relevant i have holy crap i mean you know it's bad when he's going out of the country man went off the grid i still can't believe that that's hilarious when i got that notification i laughed out loud and i was in class that was just hilarious but like that's that's a directionless team that is that is that's a good pick anybody else want to talk about another directionless team uh yeah i'd like to throw one out there now consider if you will, the Washington Commanders.
Starting point is 00:12:27 I think they're going in a direction. I wouldn't say their direction is. They may be going in the wrong direction, but they're going in a direction. Are they, though? Because I guess they're trying. It's like a Tampa thing. They think they can contend, but
Starting point is 00:12:43 they're in arguably the best division in their conference because they're not better than Philly. They're not better than Dallas, and they're not better than New York. I mean, what do you guys think? Yeah, I mean, I agree. The quarterback position is such a question mark. And they had Taylor Heineke, who's doing okay but i feel like they kind of got worse at the position well who did they who do they have now actually they do have a good decent guy edgar kobe brissett oh come on man i feel like heineke's a little better than
Starting point is 00:13:17 brissett i mean i don't know i have a lot of respect for Brissette, former Patriots quarterback. Well, he was the third string. He did a thing or two in Indianapolis, but I never saw him as the true guy who could lead a team to the playoffs. I think Heineke's a little better than him. I could see either or. But based on what he did for Clevelandveland in the absence of deshaun watson he's not bad for like a reliever quarterback when you have no other options yeah a lot worse than jacoby brissett i mean exactly division and the division the division is tough. And, yeah, the division's tough. It's tough when you have one team that made it to the Super Bowl
Starting point is 00:14:10 and seemingly in some spots got better, and then you have the Giants who also made the playoffs and also made some improvements. Oh, I never even mentioned Dallas, who also was in the playoffs. Holy crap. You didn't have to. Yes, I did, because they're going to be one of the better teams in the division.
Starting point is 00:14:34 And to say division is, if you're one of the better teams in a division, you're one of the better teams in the conference. Until December. Yeah, well, then all bets are off but i mean you have to make it to december which if you're washington actually you all everyone makes december because the playoffs don't start until like the second week in january nowadays they
Starting point is 00:14:57 were in playoff contention for some time until like i want to say week 13 14 around that time when they just fell off something like that my thing is what are they going to do with chase young because they declined his fifth year option so this is a proven year for for him yeah he's just way too injury prone that's the thing it's like he had a good rookie year and then what even his rookie year he wasn't anything special i mean he was a good he was a good, solid player. Yeah, I was kind of underwhelmed. Yeah, but still.
Starting point is 00:15:31 If he's available, I want to pick him up. I'll take him. Yeah, because the risk is well worth it. I'll make him a New England Patriot. I'll make him a Raven in a heartbeat. Just him on the edge with David Ojabo and Odafe Owe, or him inside. Doesn't matter. I want to see what would happen. He'd do some good things with Judon on the other side.
Starting point is 00:15:50 Oh, absolutely. He would absolutely have to get one-on-ones. Let's see him as a free agent. This is going to be a good free agency class. Hopefully we're still. Oh, please. We all know what this is. Every year it's like, this is going to be a good free agency class.
Starting point is 00:16:06 And that's what the media says. I'm not mocking you, Adam. I'm mocking the media. That's what they say. Oh, it's going to be a great free agency. And then they all get tagged. Yeah, that is true. A lot of players got tagged this offseason too.
Starting point is 00:16:19 Yeah, and he's probably going to get tagged too because Washington will probably not want to lose him for nothing. True. Still, though, if he's available and all it takes is what a second or a third I'm like yeah I'm not giving up a first though no way that's just a first that's still stupid give him the give him the fifth year option and then trade him well it's the commanders so I don't know what you want from me yeah they've already declined it. Once you decline it, you can't give it back. Well, that's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:16:48 They should have picked up the fifth-year option because a player with two years on his deal is much more valuable than a player with one. But they're not the only ones that have been declining deals. The Ravens have declined Patrick Queen's fifth-year option. The year 2020 has just been a bad year overall for rookies or for the draft class coming out. Yeah, but you know who was a slam dunk was Mr. Joe Burrow over there.
Starting point is 00:17:15 Oh, yeah. There's Joe Burrow. There's Tua. There's Justin Herbert. There were some few diamonds in the rough. Oh, and Justin Jefferson. Yeah. And Jordan Love. There were some few diamonds in the rough. Oh, and Justin Jefferson. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:28 And Jordan Love. How did he get an extension? All right. All right. Well, let's change gears here. So as we've mentioned, Justin Fields, he's had a rough go at it in the NFL world for various reasons. And we would say that he has a pretty solid situation around him, probably the best that he has had in his NFL career, but some executives are still a little skeptical about what he's going to do during his career on the big league level.
Starting point is 00:18:00 We're going to elaborate on that next. This is the Fumble Risky Podcast. Signed yet. Hamilton comes down with a football. They're saying it's a catch. It's a catch. Come on. To Gates. Side-line. Touchdown. Unbelievable. Swings it way down the field.
Starting point is 00:18:37 The one count. Sammy Rock takes for the touchdown. This is the Fumble Rooski podcast by Power 88 and Secret Weapon Consulting, Adam Wright, Justin Tucker, and CJ Medeiros with you as always. So according to, it was Jeremy Fowler of ESPN, some executives around the league are skeptical of Justin Fields. So many team executives for the Bears have come out and disputed this. But I thought we'd take this chance to give some thoughts ourselves. Listen, Justin Fields is a quarterback,
Starting point is 00:19:33 and with quarterbacks, you generally don't get the results in their first year, sometimes even two, especially when you look at the situation that's been around him, operating consistently behind the worst offensive line in all of football no not enough weapons to throw to as soon as justin field was in robinson was out and your number one was darnell mooney for years and he didn't even have time to throw to throw to him before he was put on his ass. So I kind of look at that and I say, listen, you got to give him a chance. And right now he has probably the best opportunity to succeed that he has had in a very long.
Starting point is 00:20:18 I mean, in his whole career, he has a very good offensive line, two bookends of tackles. You have good guys on the on the interior you have your number one to throw to which i never thought they would get this off season in dj moore you still have a number two in darnell mooney you have cole comet and the other kid they got from green bay no uh oh from green bay oh Bay. Oh, yeah. Even the time. Yeah, Tunyon. Name was escaping me, and I wasn't going to blank on it. But Chase Claypool, too. So you have pieces around you.
Starting point is 00:20:56 And so, I mean, this is the make or break year for Justin Fields, as CJ so eloquently puts it so often, put up or shut up. This is his time to shine, and if he doesn't, then we truly know that this guy cannot succeed in the NFL as a passer because you have DJ Moore and so many other pieces to throw to now, and you have time to throw. No excuse now.
Starting point is 00:21:26 We'll see about the time to throw to now. And you have time to throw. No excuse now. We'll see about the time. Let's wait until we actually see Justin Fields on the field. But I do think now that he has DJ Moore, a proven number one, Darnell Mooney, a number two, a very good number two, Khalil Herbert, I believe, is going to be a starting running back now. An improved offensive line and some pieces on defense. It's like, okay, this team can actually contend to make the playoffs. And overall, I want to see him improve as a passer, but again,
Starting point is 00:21:58 he hasn't had the opportunity to see him because he's either running for his life or getting put on his ass. So I want to see him take the steps that we all know that he can be a franchise quarterback in the nfl it's just a matter of will he have the ability to show that and will he be able to prove that in chicago i just want to see it yeah so like another thing to add is that there have been so many quarterbacks who have taken a couple years to learn how to throw in this league. And, in fact, there are some noteworthy names.
Starting point is 00:22:34 Namely, Patrick Mahomes and Lamar Jackson. Both took a couple of years to enter the starting lineup consistently, and both won league MVPs in those second years. So once they figured it out, and there were plenty of reports during the time where it was shown that it didn't look good with their ability to throw the football. They were struggling.
Starting point is 00:22:59 And then they figured it out, and it turns out they actually are damn good in this league. It's the same thing with Justinin fields you have to give them it you got to give them their at least their three years sometimes less but you got to give them that time it's the same it was the same thing with tua and he showed that he could play until his brain turned to mush yeah that's another conversation to be had but i mean like you you got to give him his time and fields has not had the fair chance yet to to go out and prove that he can play yeah i agree so if you look at his first two seasons combined he has12 yards, 24 touchdowns, 21 picks.
Starting point is 00:23:48 Second season, obviously a lot better than his first. And I feel like all the gripes with him aren't undue. And I remember there was somebody that I was talking to off the podcast, one of my football fan friends, who kind of like Adam did, likened it to Lamar Jackson, to which I say, I wouldn't go that far because all the speculation is about Fields as a pocket passer. Everyone's like, oh, well, he's not. Well, look, I know this is the new age of the NFL. I know this is the mobile quarterback league,
Starting point is 00:24:19 but you have to be at least somewhat decent pocket passer because let's face it, Lamar Jackson, very, I wouldn't even say decent. He's a pretty good passer when he's in the pocket. He's got an arm on him. And his accuracy is not too shabby, but fields, he's got a lot to prove. And like Adam says that I say, this truly is the put up or shut up year. I'm noticing that's kind of a trend with a lot of the quarterbacks in his class. Him, Matt Jones, Trey Lance lance that's neither here nor there the thing is fields trey lance is only
Starting point is 00:24:52 put up or shut up right now because he because all the guys around him are either getting their heads chopped off or they're leaving in free agency so So they literally have no chance. I mean, that's no other here nor there. Yeah. So the thing is with Fields, he, like you said, I mean, look, I've criticized him plenty, but it's true what you say, that he has not had a good weapon. He's not had good weapons. He's not had a good team around him.
Starting point is 00:25:23 The offensive line was just five turn styles and now they went out they addressed the line they patched up a leaky defense and they went out and got him a true wide receiver one and a good uh anchor right tackle and darnell right and running backs could be a little bit better but fields has enough on the ground to the point where i don't see it being that much of an issue so i'm there yeah we're forgetting they also got deontay foreman so johnson from texas yeah so i think they're pretty solid there yeah they'll be good now the only way i would uh be more skeptical is if he fails this season after they give him what he needs.
Starting point is 00:26:10 That's pretty much it. Jerry's still out. I personally, I'm not as high on him as Adam is, but I think he's probably going to be fine. Yeah, I think he'll be good, at the very least, to a Tungvalu level. But, like, that's actually pretty good because you put to a, and what he did over a full season where he's not getting hurt all the time,
Starting point is 00:26:31 then he's probably throwing over 30 touchdowns and he's probably a pro bowler. And they probably also are a top three seed, which is really, really upstanding. Their division took a step back. You mean the, and they probably also are a top three seed, which is really, really upsetting. Because also their division took a step back. You mean the NFC North? I thought you were talking about the AFC East.
Starting point is 00:26:55 No, no, that division is... No, no, no. I was talking about two of them. Oh, okay, fair enough. But am I wrong, though, when I say he's got a chance because that division is not good? The Vikings are regressing. The Packers are dangerously close to going into rebuild mode.
Starting point is 00:27:13 Detroit's taking that division, but yeah. Probably, yeah. The Bears have a very good shot at sneaking in the playoffs and maybe winning a playoff game or so. But it'll also depend a lot on the defense i mean uh the other the on the other episode i asked what glaring weakness do the bears have and you guys pointed out the pass rush and the more i think about it i mean they did address it like it's not going to be like god god awful and it won't make them like suck but it's not all that good either like it's it's still
Starting point is 00:27:48 probably bottom half of the league and their secondary could still use some work they still have pieces from when they were really good back in 2018 but they're still not like they're that defense has a lot to prove they They have a lot to work on. Offense honestly looks like the bright spot right now, which we never thought we would admit. Mm-hmm. Yeah. I definitely argue that.
Starting point is 00:28:16 I just – the Bears' offense was so terrible for so long, and they can reverse all of that if Fields pans out. But if he doesn't, I don't know what to say. Yeah. He's for their sake, he better. All right. Well, it's all going to depend on how the season goes. I mean, it will be objective, you know, how things go.
Starting point is 00:28:43 It's very subjective right now because who knows what's going to happen but we will figure that out um as next the next season 2023 plays out in the same way we're going to find out if the chiefs are really going to make patrick beholmes the most highest paid player in all of football before the season starts, which has been rumored to be a thing here. That's next. This is the Fumble Rooski podcast. Here's Edelman broken up and the pass is no sign yet. Edelman comes down with a football. They're saying it's a catch. It's his cross.
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Starting point is 00:30:04 So, according to a report by mike florio of nbc sports apparently the chiefs are expected to make patrick so he expects that the chiefs will make patrick mahomes the most highest paid player in nfl history before week one uh which means to restructure his contract now i am old enough to remember when the chiefs offer gave patrick mahomes a 10-year 503 million dollar deal yeah that was the max that was the max value and i got i listen because of the structure he may not be in some ways the highest paid player right now but he's still getting paid a lot of money and i guess i'm just i'm i'm giving my opinion here right away but if you are already paying this guy which is usually hard it's hard to pay the quarterback and win the super bowl at the same time they managed to do that why make the
Starting point is 00:31:13 situation worse for you especially with how much you have struggled financially at the at the wide receiver position you had to chase uh uh tyreek hill out the door because you couldn't pay him, and he wanted to be paid. And you managed to win with scraps. I mean, scraps is a little tough. That's a little harsh. Scraps is a little harsh because you have Juju Smith-Schuster. You got Kadarius Toney.
Starting point is 00:31:42 You had McCole Hardman. But the fact that you managed to win it with that, why make that situation harder on yourself? Especially since Patrick Mahomes actually does seem to be happy. Don't just do it just because, you know, you should because, just because he's earned it. He might've earned it, but don't you want your team to win more? I'm sure Patrick Mahomes would appreciate it if you continue to win Super Bowls, and he's still making a lot of money. That's kind of my thoughts there.
Starting point is 00:32:18 I thought, why do that now? You were able to solve the Rubik's Cube that so many league executives have not been able to do, and you're making it harder on yourself. And Mahomes is in the middle of the prime of his career. Surround him with more talent and win him some Super Bowls. That'll make him happy. He's already being paid a lot of money. Don't make it worse on yourself. Don't do that when you don't have to. If he demands money, that's a completely different scenario. If he wants to be the highest paid and he is demanding it, very different. But right now, if he's not really asking for it, then don't give it to him.
Starting point is 00:33:01 I feel like why not? We might as well get ahead of this. I mean, this is going to happen eventually because he's going to ask for more guaranteed money based off what he's done in comparison to other franchise guys or people who are believed to be franchise quarterbacks. So I'm like, if he believes he wants a bump in pay and the Chiefs think that he deserves it, I'm like, sure, let's get it done. Let's make him the highest paid quarterback in the league i don't see the issue with it because he's shown in past years he's able to work with less as long as he has travis kelsey on the field with him so i'm like why not give him a chance let's see what he can do let's keep it going so here's the thing this as adam pointed out is seems to be entirely self-inflicted he hasn't demanded this money and all reports are showing that this is not his idea and honestly i think it's pettiness
Starting point is 00:33:56 is mahomes the best quarterback in the league absolutely and the chiefs don't seem to be able to stand the fact that someone per year is getting paid more, so they're going to load more money in there. But it's weird because they don't have to. And I don't even know if Mahomes is the type of guy that's going to demand an extension, considering how even though they just won a Super Bowl, they've lost a lot of pieces. And even still, you could argue they've regressed further, especially on offense, at least in the receiver
Starting point is 00:34:26 room. Cause you know, cause you lost Tyree kill, but that's okay. You have Hardman and you got Juju. Well, guess what? No more Juju and no more Hardman. And I said this, I think last episode, what's going to happen if Travis Kelsey goes down, once that security blanket goes down, not saying my home's going to suck, but it's going to be hard. And their defense is taking a step back. They no longer have Frank Clark because they could not afford Frank Clark. And a few years ago, they lost Tyron Matthew, and they lost another corner whose name escapes me,
Starting point is 00:34:55 Travarius Ward, I believe. So I'm just saying, and you also have a lot of good young players like Isaiah Pacheco and Nick Bolton and Creed Humphrey who are going to be coming up on paydays. And I don't think they're going to be too keen on taking a team-friendly deal. So it's just, at the end of the day, even though I said it could be pettiness, the question is still why would you do this? It's very out of left field that makes no sense i mean god forbid you use what little bit of cap space you have left to go trade for deandre hopkins or an actual like real receiver one i don't personally i don't understand yeah the the team has so many needs and it feels like that would be a luxury
Starting point is 00:35:42 signing like if you had the the rest of the team the rest of your ducks in a row and your wide receiver room is set but they don't have that in fact it's actually looking quite flawed they didn't only lose juju smith schuster they also lost micole hardman so they lost a lot of pieces over this offseason that they didn't replace. And now you want to pay the quarterback and use that little cap space you have left? It just, like, none of it makes sense. And you have managed to figure it out to this point. Why make it harder on yourself? Like, why make that harder on yourself if he hasn't actually directly asked, you know, demanded that he wants to be paid more?
Starting point is 00:36:24 Because he's already being paid a lot. Like, why know, demanded that he wants to be paid more because he's already being paid a lot. Like what, like, why would you want that to be a flex to have the highest paid quarterback in all of football? Who cares if he's the highest paid? We all know who's the best. Jalen hurts is not better than Patrick Mahomes. So who cares? Let it go. Let the Eagles sit on the couch while you go and win Super Bowl after Super Bowl with Patrick Mahomes giving him actual weapons to throw to. None of that part made sense. I spat out my coffee when I heard this report, and I wasn't even drinking any sam i didn't think it was that funny no you know it was the delivery it was the delivery
Starting point is 00:37:13 it was unexpected yeah but i mean adam you do have a point and like i said and like you alluded to i really think it's pettiness that's got to be what it stems from as an organization does it suck that he's not the highest paid maybe a little but at the end of the day you need that money to you know fix the rest of your team specifically the defensive backfield and your wide receiver room and defenseensive backfield's all right. They got John McDuffie. They'll be fine-ish. And he did what last season exactly? He'll have a bounce back.
Starting point is 00:37:51 He'll bounce back. We'll see. To bounce back, you have to have a good season first. Listen, I think he'll be better than what he was last year. And even still, they won the Super Bowl with him being subpar than what we all believe he was yeah was that him in the defense or was that actually that's what justin reed their defense was all right this that was probably the most despite the personnel issues on offense that was probably the most well-rounded chiefs team in recent memory like that was That was probably the better one that they've had.
Starting point is 00:38:27 He's forgetting 2019 wasn't here not too long ago. Yeah, but that defense wasn't great. It was better than this one. I remember that defense did give up 35 points to Philly. It did, but Jalen Hurts also had himself a hell of a game and that that pretty good yeah that eagles offense was pretty good and they also had other issues you know i mean it was all in the running game but all right so that it. But do we have any other thoughts before we end the show tonight? No, I'm good.
Starting point is 00:39:09 Yeah, the Orioles beat the Rays tonight. I'm in a good mood. Let's get it. Shoot. I forgot about the Red Sox. I'm not even going to check the score. Why not? I'll check it right now.
Starting point is 00:39:20 Oh, they're up 3-2. I don't even watch baseball, so I really don't care. Oh, well. You're missing out no i'm not well if you're a red socks fan you're not missing out but all right i'm missing out on the soul soul crushing boredom well i mean if you're at the game it's one thing because i've been to many baseball games those are fun but on tv uh-uh all right well that'll do it for us tonight. Thank you for listening to us. We have new episodes out on Tuesdays and Fridays at 7.30 p.m. Eastern Standard Time. Be sure to subscribe to our YouTube channel.
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