The Fumblerooski Podcast - Drama At The Deadline -Ep 130 The Fumblerooski Podcast

Episode Date: November 2, 2022

The trade deadline has come and gone, join Justin Tucker and CJ Medeiros as they break down wild deadline trades and talk about the Vikings' hot start and Bill Belichick's historical victory in NY.

Here's Edelman broken up and the pass is no sign yet. Edelman comes down with a football and they're saying it's a catch. It's caught! It's a side-by's caught! Diggs! Side-by-side! Touchdown! Unbelievable! Swings it way down the field to Watkins!

Sammy Watkins for the touchdown! Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. You are listening to the Fumaruchi podcast by Power88, along with Secret Weapons Consulting. I am your wonderful host, Justin Tucker, along with my good friend, CJ Medeiros. CJ, how are you doing tonight? Hey, man. You know how I am. It's always a good day to be on the podcast, you know, talk some football. Can't complain.

I can't complain. I am incapable of complaining. Tell me about it. We got a lot of things to talk to you about. I want to say 10 moves ahead of the trade deadline today, along with, you know, you know how the Ravens do. Vikings, 6-1, how well they'll do. But first, first things first, how about them Patriots in that win on Sunday?

Hear ye, hear ye. Bill Belichick is the greatest coach of all time, and all those who say otherwise shall be drawn and quartered. No, I'm just kidding about the drawing and quartering part. But Bill Belichick is, you know, most wins, most Super Bowl wins by a head coach ever, second most wins of all time. Hey, I'm just saying, greatest coach ever.

And before you little monsters be like, oh, my God, it was Tom Brady. Cats are 4-4, and the Bucs are like, what, 3-5? Yeah, we're 500. They're two games below 500. Don't ever say that again. Don't bring up that divorced man to me. Although we all love Tom Brady. Let's face it.

We do. We do. But, like, come on. Let's face it. We do. We do. But, like, come on. You got to give Bill his props here. I agree. First things first. Congratulations for lasting that long. Congratulations for getting to

his 325th game. Second all-time, I think. Yeah, second all-time line. Did he pass George Ellis, or is he on his way to George Ellis? I can't... No,, second all-time by Don Shula. Did he pass George Halas, or is he on his way to George Halas? I can't. No, he's on his way to Don Shula. He just passed George Halas. That's what I thought.

Yeah, Halas said.324. I think Shula has.347. Bill's well on his way. Not too far away. But congratulations to Bill Belichick. He still has some problems to deal with, mainly at the quarterback spot and the weapons area. But overall, I think the Patriots have done a good job with what they have.

Yes, I'm talking about quarterback. They need to address that. I'm not saying trade Mac Jones or anything like that, but he needs to play better. That's an obvious one. Well, yeah, he doesn't trust our organization he has we literally broke his confidence during that bears game but and yeah but and also the offensive line needs to not let him get sacked six times but look i look you saw

how good mac was his rookie year so i mean I mean, we know what he can be. And we saw him at Alabama. We know what his potential is. It's just, you know, we just got to keep building. You know, especially after we, like, broke his confidence. We have to, like, let him get his feet wet again. Plus, remember, he got injured in that Ravens game. So, you know, young man getting hurt.

Oh, oh, look at you, reveling in our quarterback's injury. Aren't you just a little bit? I'm not reveling at the injury. I'm reveling at the victory. I'm pushing that. All right. I can accept it. I do accept it, in fact.

But look, I do believe in Mac, and I do think that he has the potential to be the quarterback of the future. Well, you know, he just needs to rebuild his confidence again. But other than that, yeah, I just – there's really not a whole lot to say, but no matter whether you love him or hate him, you have to give your props to Bill Belichick. To Dukat. Yeah.

And I know he's 70, but I do believe that one day he will surpass Don Shula. I really honestly do. Okay. All right. So for those of us at home, let's crunch some numbers, shall we? I believe Tom Shula has 347 wins, correct? And Bill Belichick has 325 that's only 22 games there are now 17 games in a season and that we still have so the patriots have already played eight games so so that literally means we have nine more games left.

You know? As you know, 22 minus 9 is 13. So there's a very real chance he gets 347 within the next three years. Two years if the Pats make a dramatic turnaround. But three is probably a lot more likely. Three years.

Yeah, yeah. If that was going to happen, I still could. Yeah, God willing, if he's healthy enough, I do believe he'll get to that 347 mark. Don't jinx it. Don't jinx it, man. For those who can't hear, we're knocking on wood because Bill, no, no, no.

We can't let him die. We're going to carve out his brain and put it in a robot or something so we can't let him die we're gonna like carve out his brain then put it in like a robot or something so we can keep going and just have him as the Patriots permanent head coach for life well I mean if it ain't broke some will say it's broke some not but you know whether even I know some Pats fans are divided on Bill at this time I know I have some misgivings when it comes to his managerial role. But long story short, no matter how you feel, whether you're a Pats fan or not, whether you love Bill or hate Bill, you've got to give him credit for at this time

having the second most wins ever and having a really good shot at becoming the winningest head coach of all time. He already has the most rings, so why not just grab the most wins too okay fair enough uh before we move on to our next topic how far the Patriots going this year oh wow okay uh so I did some soul searching you know I looked high I looked low for answers. I searched far and I searched wide. And I think our ceiling this year is probably 10 and 7. And our floor, I would argue, is ironically 7 and 10.

Because let's face it, we don't have an easy schedule. We really don't. We have one of the harder schedules in the league. But anything can happen. We could play a really injured team you know we we could or or we could have like a player just like have a massive breakout you never know but yeah that's my uh parameters but if i had to guess i'd probably say about nine and eight oh fair enough i think nine and eight's a fair assessment i'm not sure i try not to be biased i'm not sure if they'll make the playoffs of the jets but i think they'll be in contention yeah get that good draft pick let's do this

all right coming up the vikings are good this year six 6-1. Playoff bound, it seems. Vikings coming up next. You're listening to the Farmer Whiskey Podcast. We'll be right back. Here's Edelman broken up and the pass is no sign yet. Edelman comes down with a football and they're saying it's a catch. It's in. Oh! Takes!

Side-line! Touchdown! Unbelievable! Swings it way down the field to Watkins! Sammy Watkins for the touchdown! Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, I am your host, Justin Tucker, along with my good friend CJ Mendeiros. We are the Fumblewitching Podcast. Coming up, the Minnesota Vikings.

Now, at the beginning of the year, if you told me that the Minnesota Vikings would be 6-1 ahead in the NFC North and playing for a home field game in the playoffs, I'd tell you that doesn't sound like the Green Bay Packers and move on with my life. But unfortunately, or fortunately, if you are a Minnesota Vikings fan, this is the reality that we live in. Kirk family members has been playing well. Justin Jefferson, though he's not getting the touchdowns we thought he would be getting, he's still playing well. Dalvin Cook, he's still playing well. And overall, that defense isn't looking too bad with the addition of Z'Darrius Smith. So, no, not bad. Six and one. CJ, how are you feeling about this Minnesota Vikings team?

The Vikings. I mean, Adam and I said before the season started that the Vikings had a really solid shot at taking the division. In fact, don't quote me on this, but I believe they were our favorites. And a lot of people still thought that was weird, because when it comes to the NFL, the Vikings are kind of like the redheaded stepchild. You don't see it. And the only time it's there, you just assume it's a mirage, you know, especially in the playoffs as you kick it back to the basement. But no, no, the Vikings are six and one. But that doesn't do the situation justice.

We have to look at the division. Are you ready? Bear with me here. The Vikings are 6-1, and then it's a tie for second place with the Green Bay Packers and the Chicago Bears. Yes, the Packers and the Bears are tied, kids. Let that sink in. Hear that knocking? Let that sink in. I'm sorry. That was bad.

But they're 3-5, and the Packers' woes are very real. The Bears are meh. And then there's the lions that are one and six yeah funny how that works i like dan campbell but i don't know so yeah the vikings at this point in time i know it's about halfway through the season and i know they always like to say it ain't over till it's over. But consider that if, you know, if things keep going the way they're going, the Vikings could very well be the second best team in the NFC. And, of course, I'm thinking that Philly is probably going to be number one. And the Vikings schedule is a little tough, but I think they can manage.

Next, they have the Washington Commanders, and they're in Washington. And let me tell you, if the defense doesn't get you, their decrepit turf will. Then they have the Bills. That's going to be a really good challenge for Justin Jefferson in that offense. Then you have the Cowboys that could go either way. The Patriots, where you should win, but they're a scrappy team, so who knows. You have the Jets where you should win that, the Lions that have a defense that should be working on the Las Vegas Strip

considering how many people score on it. Then you have the Colts, the Giants, the Packers, and the Bears. At bare minimum, you should, in your final stretch here of 10 games, I would argue you should come away with, at bare minimum, five wins. At barest minimum. Yeah, fair enough. I think they should finish. And if they actually play up to their potential, God forbid, because I know that that term is scary for the Vikings,

they should get about seven to eight wins. Seven to eight wins. So you're ranging from 11 and six to about like 14 and three. Well, yeah, it all depends. You know, if we see that, it all depends, you know, if we see that patented Vikings collapse. You never know. Yeah, but this is a good start for them.

This is their first, like, 6-1 start since the 0-9 Packers with Brett Favre going to the NFC Championship game before inevitably throwing the ball away to the wrong team. That was the Vikings, man? Brett Favre threw that horrendous interception to the Saints defender and runs it away. This isn't Detroit, man. This is the Super Bowl. Yeah.

But hopefully they make the playoffs and they can actually do something well. If I'm a Minnesota fan, I'm thinking, don't break my heart this year. Either we win or we get blown out i don't want it to be close because if it's close oh my god i don't want to go through that again but kurt cussens has been playing well i don't think he's the type of quarterback that'll just like rifle one in and it becomes a whole a terrible interception i think he'll try to take care of the ball well. And I think he has, since he has the weapons like Delvin Cook and Justin Jefferson, and now TJ Hopkinson,

we might be getting to that later in tense. They might, they're looking serious. And I've never really had a problem with the Minnesota defense. They've been good. I think this year they haven't been stellar as they once were. But again, I think that's because of the aging players they have on it. But at the same time, I believe they can rise up to the occasion every now and then. Just as long as they don't get more than 24 points scored on them, I believe they can keep up. I think that's more than enough for

that offense with the amount of potential that it has. And that left tackle they drafted last year, Christian. Derisaw? Derisaw, good. Oh, yeah. Beast. He's showing up, and he's showing y'all why he was a good pitch.

Oh, yeah. Overall, I'm satisfied with the Vikings this year. I'm satisfied with everything that's going on there. And this is a good turnaround for the first year as the head coach for Kevin O'Connor. Yeah. Kevin O'Connell has really been the key to unlock that offense. And you can tell, like, this young, unproven, like, explosive, you know, offensive coordinator could really get Kirk's juices flowing. And you could see like how he was able to really maximize the potential of guys like Dalvin Cook and Justin Jefferson

and even new acquisition Pro Bowl tight end TJ Hawkinson. And look, and what do you get when you put all this together? A very special season. They literally haven't been this good, like Justin said, since 2009 when welfare defrauder Brett Favre was their quarterback. So, I mean, Vikings, I know the temptation to fall apart is very real. It is etched in your team's history, but don't do it. You have so, so much potential with that offense, and I'm not going to say an elite, but a serviceable human on defense. I'm not saying you're going to go out and win the Super Bowl,

but this could be a good building block for a road to success. Fair enough. Any final comments, or is that that? That is the final comment. All right. Just let me get everything all clear. Coming up, it's the Fumborowski Fantasy Fix. We are the F is no sign yet. Edelman comes down with a football and they're saying it's a catch.

It's caught! It's a sideline! Touchdown! Unbelievable! Swings it way down the field to Watkins! Sammy Watkins for the touchdown! And we are back. Welcome to the Fumble Rooster podcast. I am your wonderful host, Justin Sutherland,

along with my good friend, CJ Medeiros. Coming up, we have the Fumble Rooster fantasy fix, which is the waiver wire pickup. Some picks that me and the boys talk about to see if these are, like, good picks that you guys might want. CJ, would you do the honors this time? Oh, why, thank you, Justin. So when you're looking at running backs, you know, for some streamers,

why not pick up Deontay Foreman on the Carolina Panthers? No CMC and Chuba Hubbard's battling injuries? I present to you Deontay Foreman. Pick him up while he's hot. And running backs, if you haven't already, please, do me a solid and pick up Tyler Algier from the Atlanta Falcons. These RB1s don't pop up often, and when they do, you've got to grab them. Now, for wide receivers, I think it's time we look at the Browns' Donovan Peoples-Jones.

Now, I know that Jacoby Bursette doesn't exactly inspire a lot of confidence, but Peoples Jones has been getting the ball. So I totally would look at that. Next for wide receivers, look at Rondale Moore. Now, I know that with the Cardinals, they have DeAndre Hopkins back. And I know that, you know, the other guy there, Hollywood Brown is hurt, but A.J. Green is starting to fall out of favor there. And that means Rondell Moore could be a very good wide receiver too, as like their speedster home run hitter. And for tight ends, I would think it wise to consider the Ravens Isaiah likely. Justin, do you have any thoughts on that? That is likely a good pick right there.

Oh, yeah. See, take it from Tuck. He knows his Ravens. And then Greg Dulcich on the Denver Broncos. Because it doesn't look like Alberto is going to cut it, and Dulcich is coming right for that job. And if you have a tight end on by, pick up Dulcich. What could it hurt?

Now, quarterback streamers. This is interesting. Justin Fields versus Miami. Now, Fields has inexplicably become not terrible, beating the Patriots and putting up a solid performance last week as well. So will he continue to ride that high? His upside is great, and the Miami defense has been kind of shaky lately, so why not give him a try? And quarterback streamers, Geno Smith.

Geno Smith finally showed that the New York Giants are a paper-win team by putting up over 20 fantasy points last week. I had him one of my leagues. I can attest he's very good. So he's going to be going up against the pillow Charmant Soft, some will call it, the Charmant Soft Arizona Cardinals defense. You better start him. Start him for me.

And when you look at defense streamers, think of the Minnesota Vikings at Washington. Now, we said the Vikings defense wasn't an elite unit, but you know what else is an elite? The Washington offense. Put the Vikings defense down for a good day in that game. And then finally, we have the Bengals versus the Carolina Panthers. Now, the Bengals defense is slightly better than the Falcons', and I know that Carolina just had an amazing game against Atlanta where they put up 30-some-odd points, but come on.

What are the odds that the Carolina offense with XFL quarterback P.J. Walker is going to do that again? Not likely. So, please, pick up the Bengals' defense if you have no other choice. You're not going to regret it. Back to you, old buddy there, Justin. Oh, thank you. Thank you. Coming up, the trade deadline has happened. And look at some of these trades that have happened. You are listening to the Fulmer Review Podcast. here's edelman broken up and the pass is no sign yet edelman comes down with a football they're saying it's a catch Ladies and gentlemen, I am your host,

Justin Tucker, along with my good friend, CJ Maviros. We are the Farm Revolution Podcast. Coming up, we are talking about the trade deadline. Now, a lot of things have happened at the trade deadline. More so than usual, a couple of things to talk about. Rogon Smith, you know how it is. Fred, reach out to the Dolphins. Chase Claypool to talk about. Rogon Smith arguments. You know how it is. Fred Richel to the Dolphins.

Chase Claypool to the Bears. Calvin Ridley to the Jaguars. William Jackson to the Steelers. Hines to the Bills. And many other things. Out of all these trade deadline deals that have happened so far, which one is the best in your opinion? Huh. That's a question now it's either bradley chubb to the dolphins or roquan smith to the ravens i lean roquan smith because the ravens literally didn't have to give up a first round pick they gave up a second and a fifth for one of the better middle linebackers in the league and he's going to add to the already scary defensive

core that already at least with the linebackers boast patrick queen so but i won't turn my nose up at chubb you know miami did have to give up a little bit more to obtain him. I know they gave up one of their running backs, I believe. Didn't they, to get him? The Ravens? No, no, no. Miami getting Nick Chubb. I mean, Bradley Chubb, Bradley Chubb. I think they gained a running back from the 49ers.

No, you mean the Broncos? Either way, my point is I think they had to give up one of their running backs they had to go up like a first a fourth and a fifth i would say just from a value standpoint alone the ravens win and not to mention bradley chubb's a little injury prone which for me just tilts the scale in favor of roquan smith to the ravens being the most impactful trade what do you think justin i mean you already know who you're asking, so you already know who I'm rooting for. Roquan Smith to the Ravens is a good pickup by our boys, and here's the reason why. He fits our scheme.

He plays defense the way a Ravens player would play defense. He is the leading tackler in the NFL. I'll take that. Thank you very much. I believe he upgrades our past defense. And overall, I think he'll fit in that locker room because in our locker room, we have a collection of guys and our personalities need to join. I think he fits that.

I think his performance will show up on the field as soon as he touches down on Monday night football against the Saints. Yes, sir. He'll show his dominance, have like a 10-plus tackle game, maybe a forced fumble, a pass deflection, you know, stuff like that. But overall, I think it's a good pickup, and we only had to give up a second and a fifth. Classic Eric Acosta move.

But the only downside to it is that contract's coming up and we have to pay lamar so i'm not sure we can give him the long-term deal that he wants but i think that i'll look at this more as a rental than a long-term deal but if we can sign both Lamar and Roquan Smith, I'm happy. That's a big if, what it's doable, at least. We can always try. We can always try. Seriously, though, if you get, like, a half-season rental out of Roquan Smith, that's just bad luck. I'm sorry.

You've got to get that guy in already kind of a contract workout. Because that's usually what these players do. If you're trading for a guy on an expiring deal, usually they try to hammer out, like, at least the infrastructure of a deal, you know, before the trade. But whatever. I mean, Eric DaCosta move, I guess, as you said. So I kind of wanted to look at some of the other trades, if that's all right with you. No problem.

Chase Claypool. He takes his tick-tocking ways to the Bears to annoy a whole new fan base. That's going to be exciting. Yeah. I mean, think about it. The only really good Bears receiver is Darnell Mooney. Who else do they have the underwhelming rookie vellus jones the greatest threat to world peace known as nikhil harry

you needed claypool and if you really think that justin fields is the guy then you would be wise to surround him with weapons yeah it would be the wise thing to do but chicago bears aren't that wise considering what they tried to do these past few years with Justin Fields. No, they are not. But unfortunately, this just isn't the situation that it is. Yeah. I will say they at least attempted to give him a good wide receiver in Chase Claypool. If he can focus in and harness the tools that he has,

he could be a dangerous player for Chicago Bears. Yeah, that's a big if. Old TikTok man there. If he can't, he may be more of a distraction than he is a benefit, which again will hurt Justin Fields' development than help. So hopefully he's more of a performer than the latter. So I want to say it's a good move by Chicago because they need a wide receiver to help develop Justin Fields. But I'm not sure this is the guy you want to go for. Yep. The other one I want to talk about is Calvin Ridley to the Jaguars.

Well, obviously, now you go. You go. Sorry. My fault. You can't use them this year. You could say he gambled away his future You go. Sorry. My fault. You can't use them this year. You could say gamble the way is future this season. Yeah. And they're going to have to sign,

sign them eventually or put them on a franchise tag. I don't even know what to say about this one. This one is interesting from the standpoint of, you know, you won't play this year. You're trading for a guy that won't immediately help you on on the football field but you want him to be a part of your long-term plans are you going to give him a long-term deal considering what he did the last time he had

good money or how would you go about it yeah yeah that's a good question i mean you know when you're gonna sign a gambler like that i guess risky odds are kind of your thing i'm sorry i had to i had to say no because i i believe the game he bet on was the falcons beating the jaguars yeah i know that's the funny part yeah that's great and now yeah but look when he comes back this season he and uh christian kirk are going to be a really good duo for trevor lawrence to throw to yeah i just i like that the jaguars are no longer allowing trevor trevor lawrence to be sold out i really am and it's nice that they're actually get this this, helping him. Isn't that nice to help out your franchise quarterback?

Yes, it is. All right. Anything else you want to talk about with the Drake deadline or any – or naïve lines to the bill? Actually, yeah. Other than that, there is one thing. TJ Hawkinson to the Vikings. We teased it earlier.

I think we really kind of have to follow through, no? Yeah, we do. That too tight inside is going to be dangerous with Ernie Smith Jr. Yeah. TJ Hawkinson. I don't think Ernie Smith Jr. is healthy, though. I don't think so. I think they say he's going to be out eight to ten weeks.

I think I read that. Don't quote me on it, but I think he's going to be out eight to ten weeks. I think I read that. Don't quote me on it, but I think he's going to be out for a bit. And if you consider that Hawkinson is going to be with arguably the best receiver in the league in Justin Jefferson, that's going to be scary. And when you look at the backfield that has Alexander Madison and the main show, Dalvin Cook, that offense is going to be scary. And Vikings, you now set up some expectations for yourself, haven't you? Don't blow it.

Do not. And now that I'm thinking about it, if Erispef can come back healthy next year, they might be even more dangerous because they can run different formations with just the two of them yeah yeah that that is a dream right there for later down the road but for right now he even comes in to replace earth smith jr and replace his production maybe even bit more of an upgrade because i believe t.j hopkinson is a better blocker than he is and he's a a probable tight end, so there's that. Overall, that's a good pickup for what they gave up for him. Oh, and Justin, we were talking about the Dolphins running back trade there.

It turns out in that Bradley Chubb deal, they did send Chase Edmonds to Denver. Okay, that's what happened. However, they did get Jeff Wilson from the 49ers. So, you know, lose a running back, gain a running back. That's the way we do it. So basically they're just taking 49ers running backs and trying to see if they're any productive elsewhere. Yes. Pretty much.

They have Raheem Mozart. Now Jeff Wilson. Now Jeff Wilton. All right. The Miami 49ers in the running back room. Oh, yeah. I was about to say the San Francisco Dolphins, but yeah, that could work. I wanted to briefly touch on

Naheem Hines to the Bills. That is a good, good pickup for him. That is a good, good pickup for him. That is a good pickup. Oh, yeah. Especially since he's a receiving back. Allen will have a lot of fun with him. Yep.

He's a receiving back. He can run in between the tackles. And he can be on your special teams part. Oh, yeah. Bill's got a really good weapon there. Yes, they do. That is a – I'm not going to – that's a – is it a – yeah, that's a steal for what he'll do for that offense. Yeah, that is a i'm not gonna that's a is it a yeah that's a steal for what he'll do for that offense yeah that's all right coming up the long-awaited for morrissey fan

box questions we give you one once every week and we hope that you give us good to the Fumble Rescue Podcast. We'll see you next time. down with a football. They're saying it's a catch. It's in. Oh! It's in! Skyline! Touchdown! Unbelievable! Swings it way down the field to Watkins! Sammy Watkins for the touchdown! And welcome back to the Formula Whiskey Podcast.

I am your wonderful host, Justin Tuck, along with my good friend CJ Medeiros. Now, it is time for the Formula Whiskey Fan Box question. We post a question filter on our Instagram story every Monday, and you can respond with hot takes, questions, and more. And we will discuss it and give you a shout-out on our podcast. Respond to next week's Fanbox question to be featured on our show. The question of the week. What did you want to see at this year's trade deadline? Diego underscore 455 said Broncos get an offensive weapon. Nope.

No. I get what you're trying to say. The problem is it's not like they're like devoid of weapons. They're just devoid of a good head coach. True. In Broncos country, let's ride. And Russell Wilson doesn't look like Russell Wilson either. Imagine Geno Smith actually being better than Russell Wilson this year.

Who would have thought? Me neither. I didn't see that on my NFL bingo. No, me neither. Connor Fallon says Bears want to trade for once. Depends on what you call the Steelers deal there. And depends on you see the rocron smith thing i mean they did add draft capital depending on what they want to do in the draft they did gain a second and a fifth in their thing so we get to kudos to them for that so if they're just gaining draft capital to get players they want from the draft or to move up in the draft to get players,

I could see them winning a trade, especially if the Ravens don't keep Roe Korn Smith. But other than that, it's very dependent on how good Chase Claypool becomes for Justin Fields. Steven Parker, I want to see Brandon Wilson get traded from the Bengals. We don't need him. Well, sorry, that didn't happen. We don't need him. Oh, sorry. That didn't happen. That didn't happen. Better luck next time.

Daniel Lasiak. DJ Moore or Cooks to the Jets? Sorry. Not happening. Cooks is staying where he is, and so is DJ Moore. Unfortunately, I wanted DJ Moore but i guess i don't worry just would have taken his helmet off and cost you the game there he didn't cost him the game the damn kicker did i'm sick and tired of everybody it was a 45 yard pat a 45 yarder isn't a makeable

one a makeable it's makeable but it's not a walk of the park. I'm sorry. No, no, no. B.J. Moore doesn't take his helmet off and doesn't incur that stupid penalty. No. Then Eddie Pinero has a better shot at it. It's just odd. First off, he was off the field, so he shouldn't have gotten the penalty anyway. Number two.

And yet here we are. It doesn't matter. My point is, if you know that's a risk. Pinero should have made the damn kick. He should have made the damn kick. It was a 45-yarder. That's far from a gimme. And then It was a 45-yarder. That's far from a gimme. And then he had a 41-yarder.

Miss. Yeah, that's still pretty far from a gimme. It's still 41 yards. No. You can mess up once. You can't mess up twice. I'm not blaming DJ Moore for that. I refuse to give him.

No. Well, it's still his fault the game went into overtime. It shouldn't have went into overtime. Yeah, he shouldn't have taken off his helmet afterward. No matter how you feel about that penalty, that still put Eddie Pinheiro in an awful situation, and even you can't deny that. If you can't make a 45-yard field goal or a 41-yard field goal,

you don't belong in the NFL. That's just the end of the argument. Well, he can make them. It's just that you can't expect it to be 100% every time. It's not like a regular PAT. That's literally a longer side field goal. When it matters

most, you need to get it. That's how you earn your keep in the NFL. You're a Ravens fan, so you've honestly been spoiled by Justin Tucker. Not every kicker is Justin Tucker. Not the you, the kicker. justin tucker not not the you the kicker i'm bringing that up you know what we're just going to agree to disagree on this one all right yeah that's fair ian muller and said panthers trading for lamar would be amazing

yeah we're not even answering the phone if you even try to propose us with that that's not happening all fun and games till he walks no i'm just messing he ain't walking well i i know he's now i'm messing with you i'm messing with you isaac zonana fins get dbs they did not nope not a one landon weber dj moore gets out of carolina see that landon weber agrees with me i think he should get out of Carolina, but he won't this year. Yeah, not this year. And then Eli Turner says Broncos get some

picks. Oh, your Christmas wish came true, Eli. Definitely came true. They did get some picks. A first-round pick. Congratulations. Oh, yeah. For Bradley Chubb, not too shabby. Yep, not too shabby. And he got Chase Ed and you got chase edmonds too so you know so old fumble fingers melvin gordon doesn't have to carry the load yeah yeah yeah yeah maybe it's not so bad

because then they get chase edmonds to replace giovante williams because i don't think melvin gordon's doing it for them right now he is is not. Reverend, he was good, I remember. I remember 2018. Yeah. All right, so anything else you want to talk about before we wrap this up? Honestly, no. I am perfectly fine. Yeah, I'm good, too.

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