The Fumblerooski Podcast - Expanding The Arsenal -Ep 267 The Fumblerooski Podcast

Episode Date: April 30, 2024

The 2024 NFL draft is officially over and what are some of the biggest storylines and overreactions immediately after? Who were the biggest steals in the draft? Who won the draft and who lost? Adam Wr...ight and CJ Medeiros debate these topics and more!

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Draft Day is officially behind us and we are giving our reactions and overreactions some late round steals and Draft Day official winners and losers. This is the Fumble Rooski Podcast. make the throws back-to-back games where he has three touchdowns someone's got to get that six or seven spot he's an elite wide receiver as a rookie truly a lose-lose scenario for both sides welcome to the fumble ruski podcast by power 88 and secret weapon consulting i'm adam right with cj medeiros so draft day is officially behind us i know very sad for one person on this show um actually all of us we we all enjoy the show we all enjoy the draft it's a nice little time um we're really far away from the season so it's that little sliver of time where you get to just enjoy football again you're not getting football but you get the draft You get to cover all of these new faces who are entering the league for 2024 and beyond,
Starting point is 00:01:08 which is a fun time. You get to cover your own team and figure out what needs you have, what players might be best for you. It's a good time. That being said, we're going to get into our overreactions and regular reactions, if that makes any sense. So we're going to give a few statements, CJ, and we are going to determine whether or not this would be a regular reaction,
Starting point is 00:01:35 perfectly measured response, or an overreaction. Because the draft, it just ended. We're in our feels. There's got to be something where we're just acting irrationally towards you ready oh i'm ready all right so the first statement is the bears the bears have their best situation ever for a top pick so their number one overall pick was caleb williams they got they worked on their offensive line the past couple of years So their number one overall pick was Caleb Williams. They worked on their offensive line the past couple of years.
Starting point is 00:02:17 They have Keenan Allen that they brought in through a trade this offseason. Last offseason, they traded for DJ Moore. They have Cole Komet and with their ninth overall pick, they drafted Roma Dunze, who is regarded as arguably, arguably the best wide receiver in this draft. One of them. Marvin Harrison Jr., in my opinion, is better, but someone could make the case one of uh dunes they could have a better career we'll see um but reaction is that measured or is that an overreaction you know i i genuinely think that that could very well be uh a measured reaction because we're not making any statements about his career. We're not. We're just simply saying this is the best scenario in which a number one overall pick, specifically quarterback, has been drafted to,
Starting point is 00:03:14 and at least modern era, like circa 2000 or maybe a little before, because you look at other quarterbacks that have been taken on bond overall. Peyton Manning, that was awful through a boatload of interceptions his rookie year and play behind an offensive line that nearly got him killed or Eli Manning I mean well I mean I guess the Giants didn't technically draft him but I mean the Giants were never impressive, right? Yeah. And also Joe Burrow.
Starting point is 00:03:50 Oh, yeah, Joe Burrow. Yeah, got killed his rookie year behind that line. I mean, it was okay. The offense was okay with the exception of the line. Andrew Luck, that situation was pretty good. It was okay. But that was more so. We don't know how that ended. that was more so Andrew Luck doing more with less. Also, Andrew Luck didn't get hurt, actually, at least not permanently, until, what was it, year four of his career?
Starting point is 00:04:18 Yeah. He was still taking those teams. That was more on the front office in years years later i feel like that's more of a luck thing though why the colts were good you know because he was special that was more of a luck thing though why the colts were good what you said yeah it's more it's more andrew luck who who did that because andrew that team didn't have the best didn't have the best roster they did have reggie wayne still around and they did have ty hilton but that that offensive line was bad their defense never improved their drafts were just awful they it was more so it wasn't
Starting point is 00:04:53 that draft it was drafts afterwards that were just not good enough and it ultimately sunk andrew luck's career he eventually hung it up and he said, I'm done. You guys can't draft. You can't protect me. And I'm going to get killed if I stay in the league too long. The guy like disappeared off the grid. We didn't even know where he was up until like two years ago when he showed up on TV next to Robert Griffin III. Yeah. I mean, the guy's been, it sucks.
Starting point is 00:05:22 They ruined a generational talent like Andrew Luck. All right. I'm just looking at other number one overall picks like Carson Palmer with the Bengals. Cam Newton with the Panthers. I mean, he was Offense Rookie of the Year, but they didn't really give him any weapons. Matt Stafford with the Lions.
Starting point is 00:05:44 You know? Brother, boom. But look at Caleb Williams, right, with the Lions You know But if you look at Caleb Williams Right with the Bears I mean I don't know If any rookie quarterback has ever played with a receiver Room that's this staff I mean you mentioned the guys You know you have Keenan Hell and DJ Moore And you drafted Roma Dumze
Starting point is 00:06:00 Not to mention you have DeAndre Swift at running back Who can also catch the ball as well as cole commette at tight end and the offensive line at least as of last year gets way too much hate why because they all go justin fields on those sack quarterbacks in the league well we've repeated this stat so many times justin fields statistically held on to the ball longer than any other quarterback. So let's speak the truth. He was putting himself in that shoes.
Starting point is 00:06:31 When he got hit, he has no one to blame but himself. 80% of his sacks came with Justin Fields holding the ball for four seconds or more. Exactly. That should say all you need to know. But I do think you could agree or disagree with the Roma-Dunzay pick, but the fact of the matter is you can have all of your weapons on the field at once. You can have your Y and Z are going to be DJ Moore and Roma Dunze. Your slot guy, your number three, is going to be Keenan Allen. Your tight end is going to be Cole Komet.
Starting point is 00:07:14 DeAndre Swift, your running back. You have all of those stars on the field at once. You don't have to sub one in for another. So I think that's a really good thing. It spreads defenses thin and helps for Caleb Williams to have time to throw. Won't need that much time to throw. And oh, by the way, again, I think that offensive line is underrated. I don't think it's a good one. I think it's fine.
Starting point is 00:07:37 And I think they have one of the more underrated tackle duos in the league with Braxton Jones and Darnell Wright. I think they were fine. And on the interior, they were okay too. They still need a center, but I think this is not a line that it's as bad as everyone suggests. I think it's better than the one that Joe Burrow worked with when he took the team to the Super Bowl.
Starting point is 00:07:59 I think it's better than that one. No one talks about that line. Oh, well, Justin Fields needs all these things, and he'll do really well. Joe Burrow didn't need that. Joe Burrow did not need that. Oh, but he had all these targets. Targets do not mean nearly as much.
Starting point is 00:08:20 Targets don't mean nearly as much as the offensive line. No one can get open quick enough before you get sacked within two seconds. No one can get open that fast. All right. Our next one is the Chiefs were gifted Tyreek Hill Part 2 and possibly a three-peat. And I'm referring to xavier worthy um i don't know again i don't think this kid is as good as people are saying i think his his route tree is very limited he's unders. He gets bullied a lot. And I just think he's, I think, I just think he's John Ross part two. Maybe he ends up being a little better than that, but what does that do for you? You still need a wide receiver. So if he pans out, sure, that's, that's great and all,
Starting point is 00:09:21 but I mean, this is your, this is a big need for you and everyone's saying well they haven't needed it before well during those six during these past six seasons where patrick mahomes has been starting he's had he's had travis kelsey an elite tight end for all six of them and he's had um and he's had tyreek Hill for half of them. So this idea that he can do more with less. I think most quarterbacks in the league aren't winning Super Bowls with the teams that he's had in the last two years. But at the same time, let's not act like he had nothing.
Starting point is 00:09:59 He had Tyreek Hill. He had Tyreek kill for three years and for two year for the past few years um for actually you had tyreek kill for four years the last two the last two years you at least had had travis kelsey so i don't think this is an overreaction or rather i i think this is an overreaction i i don't i don't think i don't think he's as good as Tyreek Hill, and I think the problem is still there. Also, they addressed tackle reasonably late, and people are forgetting how much of a problem right tackle really is to them. They still haven't replaced Donovan Smith. Yeah. So building off of that, what Adam is referencing, for anyone listening, is that the Chiefs drafted BYU offensive tackle Kingsley.
Starting point is 00:10:53 It's either like Suamataya, Suamatia, in the late second round, which he's good. I think he can start in a pinch, but I don't know if it's wise to start him week one and also uh you know you on the other side you have joan taylor who draws as many holding penalties as any player that i've ever seen so xavier worthy is interesting because is he good? Yeah, I mean, yeah, he's good. I mean, I always had like a second-round grade on him even before he broke the 40-yard dash record.
Starting point is 00:11:32 But does he go first round later otherwise without breaking that record? I would argue no. And I think he'll be better than John Ross for the sole reason that he will be playing with Patrick Mahomes. I mean, that's what you've got to remember. And you know how sometimes we talk about how really good weapons can mask how bad a quarterback might be? For example, Tua with the Dolphins, right? I mean, once you take away his choice, huh? So vice versa, you mean?
Starting point is 00:12:08 Yeah, vice versa. It can work the other way around. Yeah, it is. Most of the time it does work the other way around. Yeah, no, this is what it's going to be. I think that playing with Mahomes is going to artificially make Worthy better, but I don't know if he's going to be a game-breaker because if he gets tackled in
Starting point is 00:12:27 the pro league it could it could get ugly I mean obviously as long as they have the homes the chiefs you know are going to have a three-peat possibility but let's not say they've been gifted it yet I mean if they got Marvin Harrison jr I would say oh yeah they've been gifted it yet i mean if they got marvin harrison jr i would say oh yeah they've been gifted it but they didn't so let's just pump the brakes there's a reason he was not like the first receiver draft there's a reason he didn't go top three so it's an overreaction for you oh absolutely yeah so i think that's an overreaction. I think we both believe that. I'm still questioning their offensive line and I'm still questioning Xavier Worthy. We'll see if he works out. Maybe he does, maybe he doesn't. I don't think he's going to be Tyreek Hill, but maybe he's not John Ross either. My next potential overreaction, Falcons draft day was a disaster.
Starting point is 00:13:28 Reaction or not an overreaction, CJ? That is a reaction. One of the reactions, I would argue, because everybody's like, oh, no, it's an overreaction. No, no, no, no, no. Look, and we all know what happened first round. They said, well, crap, let's just take Michael Penix, because why not? That aside, in believe they traded up, right? Didn't they trade up? And they went defensive tackle.
Starting point is 00:14:14 And, you know, they have Brady Jairus, but he's getting up there in age. So, yeah, you know, maybe you take a defensive tackle. After all, Jerzon Newton's on the board. Just kidding. They took, I believe his name is Rook or Hororo or Hororo. I cannot pronounce it. Rook, if you're listening to this, I am very sorry. But yeah, so they took him over Jerzan Newton. What?
Starting point is 00:14:36 And then round three, to their credit, they made a very good pick. They got Washington, Ed Rusher, Braylon Trice. But then round four, they double dip a defensive tackle by taking Brandon Dorlis. And then the rest of their picks consisted of J.D. Bertrand, Jace McClellan, Casey Washington, and Zion Logue, who honestly, I didn't even think they were going to get drafted. So even without the glaring shadow of Michaelael pennix i would argue that this draft was terrible round two onward there was one one pick that they had that i would describe as a legitimately good pick and once again that was braille and trice but that is just i mean you
Starting point is 00:15:20 double dip at dt then you take four guys guys once in round five and three round six that no one thought was even going to get drafted. Just whack. I'll tell you why it is an overreaction. Lay it on me. My reasoning is because how many needs did this team really have going into this draft? I'm not trying to say that they had a good draft date. I'm not even saying that at all.
Starting point is 00:15:50 What I'm saying is I kind of had the feel going into this draft that whatever they get is more bonus points to what they already have. They have good targets. They have a good offensive line. Their defense, despite having poor leadership last season the last season i thought was is still solid they have good players i thought it was more so that they'd be adding adding to what they already have rather than addressing needs if that makes sense the michael pennix the michael pennix selection still makes no freaking sense to me i'm not trying to argue for that at all i'm I'm not even trying to argue for the, for the other positions that they drafted later on in
Starting point is 00:16:28 the draft. I just, it's more so like this didn't, I don't think this screwed over the Falcons at all. In fact, in some ways, like you didn't get Michael Penix. I know it makes no sense that they got Michael Penix, but they got Michael Penix while they have an aging quarterback under a four-year deal granted but they do have a young future with this guy and also having your targets being young as well with kyle pitts and uh bijan robinson and drake london so like yes what wasn't a good draft day not at all all. But I don't think they screwed themselves over. I really don't. I mean, I didn't say they screwed themselves over. I just said it was a horrific draft.
Starting point is 00:17:12 Yeah. I mean, that's my point. I don't think it's going to hamper them because, you know, Pennix isn't going to start. I mean, the only ones I could see legitimately starting are Rup, Koro, and Braylon Trice, maybe. But that's pretty much it. But, I mean, I don't know. How many of these guys are going to be contributing long-term, I guess?
Starting point is 00:17:37 I know one bad class here and there won't kill you, but you still would have liked to have seen better. Well, a couple of them could have panned out my my my definition of a disaster draft day is when you actually have needs when you have something to lose and then you do you do lose that right like if you if you had the chance to draft a player who you really needed, and then you turn around and draft somebody else. And then that turns that pick turns out to be a disaster. That's kind of what I look at as a disaster of a draft day and the Falcons, they didn't really have that many needs to begin with. And if any, I mean, they, I, I still think that they have a decent defense. Um, they could use more in the past rushing, but there's a lot of teams that could use more in edge rushers, but they
Starting point is 00:18:32 were still fine. In fact, they had more sacks this year that this past year than the Detroit lions had the lions do. They did. All right. Didn't that? So I just didn't – like you didn't have much to lose to begin with. It was everything to gain and nothing to lose. So how could it be a disaster of a draft day if they couldn't lose anything to begin with? They didn't really have much at stake for this draft. It wasn't a huge draft for them. They made a really weird pick in the first round,
Starting point is 00:19:00 but in a weird, messed-up way, it kind of helps them. Because if Pennix will have that time to develop and yeah, he's starting when he's 28, but he'll be big league ready. And if he, if he pans out, then you have potentially 10 to 12 years of a legitimate elite starting quarterback with Michael Penix. I'm saying this if he pans out, but he was going to be a first rounder either way. Maybe. However, there is one thing that I do want to add as far as a disaster goes. Just from a mentality standpoint, I believe that the Penix pick might hurt them. Because remember when New England drafted Cole Strange and there were other teams literally
Starting point is 00:19:49 laughing at them for it? This is what is going on with Atlanta right now. The media, the fans, literally other teams are pointing and laughing at you. This was a terrible pick and everybody knows it.
Starting point is 00:20:06 And that's the thing. Huh? That's a little different. The Patriots have those needs. Yeah. So my point is, and that's the thing. Kirk Cousins didn't know this was going to happen. Arthur Blank didn't know this was going to happen.
Starting point is 00:20:22 Raheem Morris didn't know this was going to happen. It would not be a hyperbole to say that Terry Fontenot went AWOL on this. And when you make a pick, then everyone's just like, wait, what? I mean, we saw Arthur Blank chewing him out. We know that Kirk Cousins wasn't expecting this. What's going through their heads now? This is a mental thing. It's a mind game.
Starting point is 00:20:42 And, well, every little slip-up that's going to be in the back of their heads okay um on to our last overreaction or or uh not overreaction vikings had a sensational first round so with their first pick they had the number 11 overall pick they traded up one spot with the jets to take uh jj mccarthy then in the uh with the number 23 overall pick later in the draft they take dallas turner arguably the best edge rusher in this draft what are you thinking cj overreaction not overreaction so can you just say that again because i'm trying to think here yeah they took jj mccarthy uh-huh at the 10th pick yeah and then they took at 23 dallas turner
Starting point is 00:21:41 overreaction not an overreaction i mean this is weird because I feel like it could go in both because I like JJ McCarthy I just didn't think he would be a good fit in New England because he always a Pats fan but McCarthy to uh New England rumors were getting concerning about esteem but i just i don't know i genuinely am just perplexed at this solely because mccarthy you just don't know what you're gonna get i don't even think they should really start it i genuinely don't because i believe he is the youngest quarterback in that class because well i'm a little perplexed the the McCarthy pick, I like the Dallas Turner pick. Dallas Turner and new free agent Jonathan Bernard are going to eat. But I don't know.
Starting point is 00:22:31 To say this was a sensational draft, I might have to pump the brakes on that. I don't think this was a sensational draft, so I do think it's an overreaction. But I do think that if J overreaction, but I do think that if JJ McCarthy can play, then there, we could see some fireworks early in his career. Look at that offense right now. They have managed so far, so far, so good to hold on to Justin Jefferson. We'll see what ends up happening. They have some leverage on them with Jordan Addison and still on the team um and TJ Hawkinson a decent offensive line um a defense that now has gotten better and younger we could see some fireworks if JJ McCarthy can actually play
Starting point is 00:23:20 like early because this team the targets especially are loaded they could use a they could use a run actually they don't they can they have a running back don't they they have um aaron jones yeah yeah so this could end up working out really well for him remember who we also and this was this guy was also taking 10th overall in 2017 uh patrick mahomes was also considered a reach um he was a highly touted prospect who people were like yeah he looks good but look at deshaun kaiser look at mitch trubisky look at at Deshaun Watson. Patrick Mahomes was kind of the guy who everyone thought positively of, but no one really was wowed by him. And then he turned out to be what he is today. I'm not saying McCarthy will be anywhere close to that. I'm just saying if McCarthy pans out,
Starting point is 00:24:23 we could see a really, really good Vikings team for a couple of years, early on in his career. Yeah, I can see it. I just don't know if they should start him right away, I guess is my whole thing here. Because I think he can be a good system guy, but if you're going to throw him into the fire week one, I guess is my whole thing here. Cause I think he can be a good system guy, but I just, if you're going to throw him into the fire week one,
Starting point is 00:24:48 I would advise against it. The, the problem I have with that is, so I'm in favor of, of the Patriots benching, um, the Patriots benching Drake may to start his career, but that's because the team isn't ready yet.
Starting point is 00:25:04 They don't have a good offense around them. With the Vikings, they have that. So why sit him? And also I think J.J. McCarthy's a little more ready than Drake May is. I think Drake May is very raw. And not to say J.J. McCarthy isn't, but he feels a little bit more ready and he's shown a little bit more of the capability to play in a more conservative offense. If they want to not
Starting point is 00:25:35 open the playbook early on, he can still function because he did it in Michigan being a game manager. Yeah, that's true. But in the NFL, you're going to have to be more than a game manager. If they want to start him out with – if they want to keep the training wheels on, that's fine and that's good. I mean, I respect that. But this is all a big if. If he goes out, I really think that if he goes out there and sucks his first year – I mean, granted, that's not indicative of anything.
Starting point is 00:26:06 You can always fix that, right? But I truly believe if he sucks his rookie year, Jefferson is gone. That way, if you sit him, you can say, oh, but Jefferson, we have a good rookie for you to play with. You know, I mean, it's just it's kind of like playing the long game, I guess. It's not the best reasoning in the world, but it would be if you try to like sell Jefferson on that lottery ticket and say, oh, he could very well be good. You know, it's like because he goes out and sucks. Jefferson's going to leave. Yeah. So, yeah, we'll see what happens.
Starting point is 00:26:39 We're going to move on. Late round steals. That's next. This is the Fumble ruski podcast it may not have always showed it in the stat sheet but you can see him making throws when he needs to make the throws back-to-back games where he has three touchdowns someone's gotta get that six or seven spot he's an elite wide receiver as a rookie truly a lose-lose scenario for both sides welcome to the fumble ruski podcast by by Power 88 Secret Weapon Consulting.
Starting point is 00:27:08 I'm Adam Wright with CJ Medeiros. So, from rounds 4 through 7, give me a late round steal. One player who you thought did unbelievable, who has low upside, high upside, and could potentially outplay his draft capital? Oh, that's easy. Round five, Philadelphia Eagles took Jeremiah Trotter Jr. I had him, I believe, as my second best linebacker in this class, and he, in my eyes, inexplicably fell to five.
Starting point is 00:27:46 I mean, I know he's undersized, but come on. Everything is there that you would want other than that. I mean, the strength, the speed, the motor, just the ability to understand an offense. It's all there. And he, of course, went to Philly where his father, Jeremiah Trotter Sr., played. And I just, when you have a guy who many people at least have in the top three of their linebackers, when you look at that and then you just watch him fall to round five to Philly,
Starting point is 00:28:18 who is known in some cases for their defense, I definitely think he can go out there and start. I mean, because especially since the guy they signed from Tampa, Devin white, their middle linebacker right now is on a one year deal. So don't be shocked if we see Jeremiah Trotter jr. Early and often. Mine is definitely, I like Javon Baker.
Starting point is 00:28:43 He was pick, I believe one 10 out of the fourth round from New England. Wide receiver out of UCF, had over 1,000 yards this past season, and he had, I believe, over 2,000 yards in the past two years at UCF. What I like about this guy, he doesn't have the best speed in a straight line, but his route running abilities are good enough so that during his college career,
Starting point is 00:29:16 he did find himself wide open for some wide open touchdowns. So he makes up for it a little bit. He's able to create that separation. He may not be that fast. He ran a 4-5-4-40 at the combine, but he's still quick. And he's also a bully as a jump ball guy. I know we don't want to rely on that. That scares a lot of people away when you hear, oh, he's not the best with separation, but he's a good jump ball guy. He doesn't rely on it, which is something that I like. He still creates separation and he can play anywhere on the field. On top of that, this guy is a competitor. Some of his quotes, the first thing that he said when he became a New England Patriot, I'm going to make people in wheelchairs stand up.
Starting point is 00:30:06 That's insane. That guy, oh my God. I can't wait for him to become a Patriot. I hope he pans out because I think Drake, what I want to, I heard this over Patriot's Twitter. Someone came up with a catchphrase, Drake and bake. I think that would be if I'm using that, if the, if the, both of those kids end up panning out. Um, yeah, I think that, I think it'll be, I think this will work out really well for him.
Starting point is 00:30:46 He was a low risk fourth round pick high upside player. Um, so if it doesn't work out, it's not that big of a deal because he was a he was a later round pick however the upside this guy has for him to go in the fourth round i i really like him i i think i like him a little bit more than jalen polk who they took in the second round so for me another steal i'm going to stay on the defensive side of the ball here is from the seattle seahawks round six dj james the corner out of auburn so a lot of people had him going somewhere between early second round and at least early third round. And I just, I don't know how he fell to round six. I mean, I'll grant you it's pretty much a crapshoot, you know, once you get out of round two.
Starting point is 00:31:35 Because that's like anybody's guess. There are reaches, there's trades, there's all kinds of stuff. But I mean, just the smooth movement, just the body control, like how he plays in coverage, these are what you want in an athlete. And I am shocked that he just fell this far. And, honestly, you could probably start out and just play him up high. I mean, not as a safety, but maybe as like a high slot guy. Just like day one. I just don't know how
Starting point is 00:32:06 he fell this guy i mean when you compare him or give him like a young guys like uh brian and woolen and witherspoon this seattle these youngins in seattle are going to be a problem i mean don't look now but maybe just maybe we might have another legion of boom if they all pan out it's a possibility all right um quickly i want to move on to draft day winners and losers give me one winner and i'll give you one winner. You give me a loser. I'll give a loser real quick. All right. So when I just really stop and think about everybody, you know,
Starting point is 00:32:54 they're like won and lost the draft. I mean, I hate to really double down on this because I know a lot of people might be talking about them, but the Philadelphia Eagles, I mean, they kind of got lost in the shuffle, but they actually had a really good draft. And consider this, right? Corner is, and just defensive back in general is their biggest weakness. They go out and they grab Quinnion Mitchell and Cooper DeGene in the second round. I mean, Cooper in the second, Mitchell in the first.
Starting point is 00:33:24 Those guys were both considered top five corners. And you also get the electric running back, Will Shipley from Clemson, Project Whiteout Johnny Wilson, Amia Smith from Texas A&M, Jeremiah Trotter Jr. Like, these guys went out and they got guys that can go be difference makers and, you know know just in day one and adam what about you so i'm hearing a lot of the same teams and last and last week i already named the patriots as a as a winner so i'm gonna go somewhere where a lot of people are not gonna
Starting point is 00:33:59 expect i'm gonna give you the cincinnati bengals. I think the Bengals in the first two rounds nailed two massive needs. Offensive tackle in Amarius Mims in the first round, and then that defensive tackle in the second round. So they lost DJ Reader. They lost Jonah Williams. Yes, they replaced him with Trent Brown, but do you really trust your franchise quarterback who's been getting hurt a lot early in his career with Trent Brown? No, I like him as a swing tackle though. So put him in. So put Trent
Starting point is 00:34:35 Brown in there as a swing tackle. You have a Marius Mims now, um, to pair up with Orlando Brown jr. I think to shore up that offensive line is very important, especially with the future of all of their wide receivers in question right now. I know a lot of people are thinking, oh, why not Brian Thomas? No, not just yet. Yeah. If you draft Brian Thomas, then you are guaranteeing that either Tee Higgins or Jamar Chase are out the door. So for them to shore up that offensive line, we've learned from the Chiefs, an offensive line is more important than elite targets. So I think that's something that you need to make sure that you shore up. The Patriots did that too. They had good offensive lines. Their targets were just okay.
Starting point is 00:35:23 But if you kept your quarterback on his feet and didn't get him hurt, then the championships would roll in. You'd at least be in contention. The Packers, they had David Bakhtiari for all those years, and that worked out for them because Aaron Rodgers was able to stay on his feet. He had a limit for about as much he could achieve when it comes to the postseason, but he was still an elite quarterback who was one of the best in the league. It should be the same thing with Joe Burrow. There was no reason the Bengals should have been out of
Starting point is 00:35:58 contention this year. They got Joe Burrow hurt and they never recovered from it. They should have been in the postseason and dancing with the Chiefs, and they weren't. So I think the Bengals kind of won this. I think they are one of the winners of this draft. They got what they needed. They got some depth in their offensive line. I think that's important to keep Joe Burrow on his feet. All right.
Starting point is 00:36:25 I get it. So for a loser, not everybody talks about this, but I would definitely say the Tennessee Titans could be considered pretty big losers in this draft. Because seventh overall, you take J.C. Latham. J.C. Latham is a very good tackle, but as the second tackle off the board with Fashanu there i i kind of have to question that and then round two you take tavandre sweat from texas why i mean don't get me wrong he's good
Starting point is 00:36:58 but not a pick 38 then they in round four they got got Cedric Gray, the linebacker from North Carolina, who's just fine. Then round five, there's Jarvis Brownlee Jr., corner from Louisville, who I didn't think was going to get drafted. Then wide receiver Jaquan Jackson from Tulane. And then two seventh-rounders, James Williams from Miami and Jalen Harrell from Michigan, who, eh. I just, you saw the Viking, I mean, why did I say that?
Starting point is 00:37:28 I mean, you saw the Titans were cooking this offseason, right? They went out, they got guys like LeJarius Sneed, they got Lloyd Koshary, they got Calvin Ridley. And then the draft, oh, that would just be great. But they didn't really add any true difference makers, you know? I mean, I guess maybe Latham's going to start day one, but sweat is a project.
Starting point is 00:37:51 Gray's middling. And then everybody else, I don't even think is really going to do a whole lot of anything. It's like when you need that final push, it just kind of, they went out with a whimper and not a bang is all I'll say. Yeah. push it just kind of they went out with a whimper and not a bang as i'll say yeah um my loser is going to be the buffalo bills now during day one after when we recapped day one of the draft you were mentioning them as a loser because they traded out of the first round. Twice, yes. Yes, they traded out twice and watched as the Chiefs got Xavier Worthy.
Starting point is 00:38:28 We'll see how he is. I don't believe in him, but a lot of people do. And Xavier Leggett went 32 to the Panthers. So you had the number one pick on day two you had adonai mitchell you had uh geez who's the uh uh i'm completely blanking on that kid um the other one not ad mitchell not keon Coleman. Help me out here. Jalen Polk? Like who?
Starting point is 00:39:07 No. No. The other guy. Taken by the Chargers. I'm completely... Oh, Ladd-McConkie. Ladd-McConkie. You had those three.
Starting point is 00:39:17 You take Keon Coleman. A lot of people like Keon Coleman, but I'll tell you why I don't like him. He cannot create separation to save his life. Like I said so with jalen polk i told you or no it was jevon baker who i told you earlier in the show that i believe he's i like him because not because he's fat he's not that fast but because he's still able to create separation regardless. He's quick. He's got agility. He's a good runner. He's quick. Keon Coleman has neither of those things.
Starting point is 00:39:50 So they think they found their wide receiver one, but I don't think they realize they didn't. So he reminds me of a Quentin Johnson or a Nikhil Harry, a guy who had high upside coming out of college because he was able to succeed against college competition. But once they get to the NFL, it's a rude awakening. I think Keon Coleman fits that bill. And I envy the bill's position
Starting point is 00:40:23 because you didn't really address the defense well enough which you lost a lot of key pieces that you released sure they were aging but you have to replace those players and on top of that you lost your wide receiver one and in my opinion you still have not replaced them so I think that is a huge problem. And the bills have, the bills have solved none of their issues, a bills team that when they had those pieces, they barely squeaked into the playoffs as is. And they wouldn't have had that division. If the bills, if the dolphins, their division rivals didn't cough it up at the, at the end of the season. So I'm not high on, I'm not high on this bills team at all i think they might even miss the playoffs
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