The Fumblerooski Podcast - Getting Defensive -Ep 72 The Fumblerooski Podcast

Episode Date: April 13, 2022

Who are the best defensive players in this draft? Justin Tucker, CJ Medieros, and Justin Hill give our takes as well as give the latest on Free Agency and address the tragic death of Steelers QB Dwayne Haskins.

Here's Edelman broken up and the pass is no sign yet. Edelman comes down with a football and they're saying it's a catch. It's caught! It's! Side-eyed! Touchdown! Unbelievable! Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. You are listening to the Fumble Rooski Podcast by Powerade 88, G Marina Radio and Fans Only Sports Network. I am your host, Justin Tucker, along with my good friends, CJ Medeiros and Justin.

How are you guys doing tonight? You know, I'm great. You know, because what we're about to get into you know in the later segments you know spoiler alert with the draft i'm a draft guy i'm happy how about you doing great man uh i'm doing all right uh uh for tonight i'm doing the hosting duties uh because adam unfortunately had a lot of homework to deal with. So, you know, I got to do the hosting. But I don't mind. You know, it's about time we have a quality host up in here.

Whoa. I'm kidding. I miss Adam. But enough about that. We have a great show for you guys tonight. We will continue with our draft coverage evaluating all the best defensive players in this episode we'll give you an update on free agency but first we gotta address an absolute tragedy which happened over this past weekend duane haskins tragically passed away

at age 24 while crossing a highway and was hit by a dump truck. Guys, this is an unfortunate situation and very unfortunate to hear about. How did you guys feel when you first read the news? Wow, this is strange. You know, it's not something you expect to happen. I remember when I first read the news, I was shocked. I mean, what else can you call it? That initial reaction. It's not something you expect to happen. He was only 24.

And then this wave of disbelief kind of sets in, if you know what I mean. You're kind of like like I don't want to say in denial but for lack of a better term I'll say it's like no no no but but yeah then you know it kind of sits with you for a while you're just like wow this could have been avoided you know like this didn't have to happen this wasn't he didn't die of a natural cause he was literally hit by a dump truck and that's just i just i i don't really like talking about it so to stop i'll just say is i feel so bad for the guy and my thoughts are like with his wife and the rest of his family like i i'm truly sorry mm-hmm jay hill um right now um the don'ts is to his family his wife his mom his dad and everyone

around him close to especially to the sales organization and to his teammates as well um this was a a bright kid looking for a better chance in the in the league um he was preparing this offseason to hopefully become either a backup or a starter. The Steelers are in rebuild mode. However, with his life, he had a great life. He dreamed of being in the NFL. His one dream was to play, and he got his wish. He was a great, phenomenal player at Ohio State,

as you remember, and his dream one day was to be in the NFL. He predicted that he wanted to go to Ohio State and play in the NFL, and it happened. Tragic situation, but condolences to his wife, mom, his dad, and his family. So prayers out. I completely agree with both of y'all. Condolences to the friends and family of Dwayne Haskins.

When I first heard about it, I was scrolling through Twitter like it was a regular day. Then all of a sudden, I see a report from Adam Schefter saying that Dwayne Haskins has passed away and then going down saying the struggles he was going through. Unfortunate as it may be, and I know that Adam Schefter didn't mean it in the way it was said, that's not what you need to say at that moment in time. I understand that he's just doing his job in reporting but the way it was said was not the best way of saying it i'm glad he came out and apologized for the way it was said but it could have been done better it's just a very unfortunate situation all around and my thoughts and prayers go out to his friends and family yeah then a little more on like what

you said about schaefter um former Cowboys executive Gil Brandt, maybe you've heard had like a lot of insensitive statements, things that I, I mean, there's, they're not like expletives, but it's really nothing I want to repeat here. But I remember seeing that and I just felt disgust.

Like, dude, have some respect, man. But that, that's all I just, I want to say,'m done and like you know gilbrant had to apologize but you know he shouldn't have to apologize because he shouldn't

have said it you don't have to apologize if you literally don't say it like why would you tweet that i'm just glad he apologized but he just shouldn't have said that plain and simple. J-Hill, any last thoughts? Seeing with the seal organization, I know that he was literally not training camp, but like, you know, off-season workouts. He was very prepared. And you look at, he was just there to just do his job, and that was just to play football.

And like, no matter what your past is at least he tried his best before his last day so rest in peace to his fam to him and um prayers to his um his wife parents siblings and um into um ohio state and to the pittsburgh seals as well and because he was fighting for an NFL job and just prayers. RIP to Dwayne Haskins. We will be right back with the Fumble Risky Podcast. We'll be right back. Here's Edelman broken up and the pass is no sign yet. Edelman comes down with a football and they're saying it's a catch.

It's a cross. Takes. Sideline. Touchdown. Unbelievable. Swings it way down the field to Watkins! Sammy Watkins for the touchdown! Welcome back, everybody. Welcome back to the Formula Rooski podcast.

And right now we are talking about the latest in the NFL free agency. Tyron Matthew visited the Saints and the Eagles this weekend. Melvin Gordon visited your boys' home team, the Baltimore Ravens. Please get that contract signed. Melvin Ingram met with the Dolphins today. The Browns have re-expressed interest in re-signing Jadavion Clowney. Jarvis Landry. and Jarvis Landry. Rams wide receiver Allen Robinson appears to be recruiting D-tackle Akeem Hicks from the Chicago Bears. Oh my god, imagine Akeem Hicks and Aaron Donald on the

same line. D-tackle Calais Campbell comes back to the Ravens and Stephon Gilmore remains a free agent. I mean remains unsigned with the team right now. And right now OJ Odell Beckham Jr is the betting favorite to land with the Patriots according to sportsbook.com. That has been this has been your update for free agency. Football, they're saying it's a catch. It's caught! It's a catch! Sideline! Touchdown!

Unbelievable! Swings it way down the field to Watkins! Sammy Watkins for the touchdown! Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, welcome back to the FumbleRoski podcast. For this segment, we will be talking about your favorite front seven players in this draft. For this segment, each of us will talk about a play on the front seven that we would like to see or we would like to express interest in, and then we'll go around and talk about it. CJ, the floor is yours. Thanks, Justin.

So, you know, when I'm thinking about the front seven, when people think about it, they think of, like, you know, DTs, edge rushers. But no, no, no, no, no. I'm looking at the linebackers, specifically Devin Lloyd out of Utah. Now, this guy, he's got all the measurables you want in a modern-day linebacker. Runs about a 4'6", 40, 6'3", 235 pounds, 33-inch arms. And this guy is a beast. And as it sits right now, like, I just, he's easily, in my opinion, far and away the best linebacker in this draft.

I mean, that's just the fact of the matter. I mean, this is what he is. And what I like about him is that he's pro-ready. He can play multiple linebacker spots. He can play the Mike, he can play the Will, and he can play the Sam. He stuffs the stat sheet. pull linebacker spots he can play the mic he can play the will and he can play the sam he stuffs the stat sheet and what i like about it a lot of linebackers like to drop into coverage you know maybe get a pick they're more coverage reliable oh no not this guy he plays physical and he plays

aggressive and he's a great downhill runner and he is not afraid to put the hurt on some of these wide receivers and running backs. He's got good ball skills, and he's like a wide-arm tackler. He's basically everything you want for a linebacker. And this guy can start on day one and give you an impact right off the bat. Very good. I actually do need an inside linebacker right now because Lee Harrison isn't panning out the way I want to. So Devin Lloyd may be an option I might have to look into. Justin, what do you think?

For me, actually, since you guys know a lot about the draft more than me this year, because like, you know, like it's not like a huge class. But this class looks like about o-line and defense so for like i did a couple of regions before we started so there's a prediction for like pick number 15 that the eagles might get um jordan davis at d-line so like what i what i'm like actually reading right now not to go off script so like davis dropped some weight and showed up at the combine. He was listed at 341 pounds and ran a 40 in 4.78 seconds, and that's pretty good weighing at that

because in this day and age with the defenders, a lot of people can't run, especially at that position, but to see him run at that type of speed and jump 10 feet and just three inches and like his vertical was at 32, that's pretty impressive. And plus with the Eagles right now, they're looking for a couple defenders after that heartbreak loss to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. So seeing a team like the Eagles, knowing that they're all about defense, knowing about that right there, he could definitely help some speed

towards Fletcher Cox and Darius Slade throughout the defense. So that's pretty enjoyable right there. Mm-hmm. All right, boys. For my pick, I chose Kayvon Thibodeau, a pass rusher out of Oregon. Now, he's an interesting case because he's not going to be the first overall pass pick out of this 14 because that's just the way his stock has been fluctuating as of as of recently i mean as of recently on the field the tape looks good it's just the off the field concerns because apparently after he's been meeting with all the teams for

some reason his stock just keeps fluctuating between going to detroit or going to us because i don't think he's getting past 14. As a matter of fact, he shouldn't get past two because that's just how good of a transcendent player he is. I believe if he gets around the right system, he can be a dominant player for a decade minimum. I think he's one of those franchise pass rushers that you build your defense around. And if I have him next to Odafe Owe, my defense is going to be solid for the next few years. So I'd be very fortunate to have him on my line.

And he's very athletic and he's a freak of nature. So I'm very happy if the Ravens somehow either move up to get him or he somehow lands on the Ravens and the Ravens pick. So I like where you're coming from Justin so let me ask you this both you guys how do you feel about not to go off topic off the script but like how do you feel about this year's draft class compared to last year honestly I think this draft class a lot better than people give it credit for. They see a lack of star quarterback talent, because quarterback's the biggest position. They're quick to write it off.

But I wouldn't say so. There's a great group of wide receivers in this draft. This O-line class is one of the best, including center Tyler Linderbaum, who's one of the best center prospects we've ever seen this d-line class is amazing there's a really deep linebacker class and the corners are a bit top heavy but hey you could get some future all pros there and the safeties aren't half bad either but i would say the running backs aren't great the tight ends there's like one or two that could maybe go in the second round but like but overall this is a really stacked defense class and i'm a defensive

minded type of fella so i i don't hate it but like i said we have to stop judging draft classes based on the quarterbacks all right because that's just that's just not a way to go about it. When you look at some of these truly special guys at receiver and corner and in the trenches, like you could get yourself a franchise tackle or pass rusher for, you know, in the first round, maybe even in the second. So just my point is I'm not saying it's the best draft, but please do not sleep on this draft. I get what you're saying, CJ. You make a tremendous point about don't sleep on the draft and also this can help your team for years to come. We've seen teams that are looking for defenders in this league and they want to build something.

You look at the Buccaneers, for example. They were able to get Devin White and a bunch of other players and out of that in two years they wound up winning the Super Bowl. So they were just saying, CJ, make a valid point because defenders and defense, they win Bowl. So, like, they were just saying to you, you make a valid point because defenders and defense, they win championships. You, Justin? As far as this draft class is concerned,

I think it's getting heavenly slept on in comparison to last year's draft class. I agree the quarterback, like, star power out of it isn't the same as it was last year because we had five legitimate quarterbacks that could go in the first round, and right now we're seeing, like, two, maybe three-ish quarterbacks that could go in the first round. And right now we're seeing like two, maybe three-ish quarterbacks that could do it with Pinkett,

Ryder, and Willis. We'll just see where they'll go. I don't think they'll be like number one, two, and three, just like last year, like Trevor Lawrence, Trey Lance, and Zach Wilson. The wide receiver core, I'm not as high on as it as it was last year because again when you had jamar chase jaylen waddle and davante smith coming out of the draft class it's kind of hard to compete but i think it's severely under there are some underrated gems there like sky more that will be available in the second round i think it's a lot more defensive heavy especially in the front

seven more so than usual. But I'm fine with that. I appreciate that. And I think the O-line this year is very good, and you'll possibly find a good prospect there. So I think it's more so line defensive oriented than it is like skill positions. And I agree with CJ that it's more top heavy for cornerbacks and skill positions than any other draft class this year. Yeah, yeah, I'm hearing you. I'm hearing you.

But I just want to say one thing about these quarterbacks. This is my opinion, you know, before we move on. Because you were talking about people that could go in the first round. I know quarterbacks are going to go in the first round. At least two always go in the first round. I know quarterbacks are going to go in the first round. At least two always go in the first round. But you have to believe me when I say none of them are first round talents. I don't think Malik Willis is a first round talent, nor do I think Kenny Pickett or Matt Corral or Desmond Ritter or Sam Howell or Carson Strong are first round talents. I'm not saying they can't be good. I just don't think they should go in the first round.

And to further this point, if these guys all came out last season, like the Trevor Lawrences and the Mack Joneses, they would not go in the first round. I'm sorry. Who was the fifth quarterback to run in the first round last season? Mack Jones. If Mack Jones was this year, he would blow all those other guys away. That's just how it is.

But that's my quarterback rant for today, kids. I think the only one that I could make a case for that would go in the first round is Malik Willis because of talent. I'm not sure about everybody else, but Malik Willis does have the arm talent that could go in the first round. Yeah, he's pretty raw, but there's upside. And before we exit this segment, I want to give a special shout-out to our boy Adam, who's watching the podcast tonight. He says, Kayvon Thibodeau is severely underrated.

Could be one of the better defenders in this draft. I agree, which is why I really want him to go to the Ravens. I think if he actually slides down to 14, which is crazy within itself because of his production and tape and his intangibles, if he gets to us, I believe my defense will be set for years to come. But anyway, this will be it for this segment. Coming up next, we will be talking about the back half of the defense, which is the safeties and cornerbacks we are you are watching the former risky podcast here's edelman broken up and the pass is no sign yet.

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Welcome back to the Fumaroski Podcast by Power88 and Fans Only Sports. My name is Justin Tucker along with my good friends CJ and Justin. No relation. Family Sports. My name is Justin Tucker, along with my good friends CJ and Justin. No relation. Right now we are talking about our favorite secondary players in this draft. So, Justin, who do you think is your favorite player in this secondary to watch in this draft? I want to see what CJ has to say. CJ always has a great point.

Thanks. You know what? Thanks. I appreciate it, man. man so who's my guy the one and only my main man out of cincinnati ahmad sauce gardener this guy he's big for a corner six foot three 200 pounds runs a four four one 40 yard dash this guy is rangy. He's got good ball skills, and he is fast. And keep in mind, his official NFL comparison is Richard Sherman. So I know those are some big shoes to fill because Richard Sherman,

those Legion of Boom days was different. But I have no doubt in Sauce Gardner's game whatsoever. And I mentioned his ball skills. He has sticky hands. Dude does not drop interceptions. And I remember I was reading a stat that said, like, last season, he didn't even allow a pass on him, like, that was longer than 13 yards. And he's never allowed a single touchdown on him his entire career so come and he's matched

up with some good receivers so don't sleep on him and he he can play zone he can play man he can press you he's just he is nfl ready and in and last season he allowed 6.6 yards per reception, which was like one of the best among starting corners. And like I said, he can press you with the line and jab you. And he's, and he doesn't let quarterbacks fool him either. You know, some quarterbacks like to, you know, shift their eyes around, you know, look somewhere else, you know, kind of like luring the defense away. Sauce does not fall for that.

And keep in mind, there's another first-round pick, the shifty Alabama receiver, Jameson Williams. And keep in mind, Alabama did beat Sauce Gardner's school of Cincinnati, but he locked up Jameson Williams. That's the point. He locked up jameson williams that's the point he locked up williams and and just the way he attacks passing lanes and the fact that even though he's a corner he's not allowed to get his hands dirty and lay out the big hits that says a lot and look i know i'm rambling but i'm a huge sauce

gardener fan uh jay hill who do you like? For me, regarding my secondary, I might sound wrong. Correct me if I'm not, because you know me. I'm not with draft class and all, but first time's the first. At the same time, looking at things going on lately, for my secondary person i'm gonna pick safety daxton hill and i say it's because like you said what i'm justin i said oh that's interesting yeah he's underrated yeah underrated so i don't care if his last name's hill like mine which i love my last name no question but i'm just reading off the back right now if i'm getting off topic but um hill he was a wolverine you know michigan all that so you know how um hardball they're all about defense the hardball family knows you know what i mean um justin jerk so regardless that he's a um he's

coming like a pretty quickly throughout his class and like they're saying he's one of the best defensive backs in his class and especially looking at the bucc his class. And they're saying he's one of the best defensive backs in his class. And especially looking at the Buccaneers, knowing that they're all about defense. I love defense. You need a guy like that. Especially he can learn from people like Carlton Davis and whatnot. And Sean Murphy Bunting.

But that's a key line right there. For my secondary player, I got a few to pick from. I can go with Trent McDuffie. I can go with Derek Stingley. But for right now, I want to go with someone whose radar is not as high as it once was. Because at one point in time, he was a top three pick. But I'm going with Kyle Hamilton. To me, I don't know why.

I think it's because of the way his speed was tracked in the combine. I think his speed is where his downfall is right now, and that's why he's dropping so much. I think he was in the four, six-ish range, which isn't very good for a safety of the NFL level. I think the average would be more so like a four or five ish type because when you're safety in the NFL, you have to be more rangy. And if you're going to be in a single high system,

it kind of limits where he can be. He can be a strong safety, but I don't think you can be a free safety in that way. So I just like the way he plays football, man can tackle he can track he can keep up with tight ends he can track receivers the only issue is his speed but I don't think that'll be a problem if you put him in the right system in a double high system so right now I think I appreciate him for who he is even though I wish he was faster I I don't think he is. But in the NFL, you can improve over time, and hopefully he becomes the all-pro caliber player that I saw flashes of at Notre Dame. And hopefully he'll be able to show it throughout his career in the NFL. But the only real concern

is his speed. Can he play faster than what he's been showing and at the combine didn't really show mutton it didn't really show it which is unfortunate yeah hey man i just want to jump in on that a bad combine performance doesn't always translate to the nfl we've seen guys have awful combine performances and go on to be great and he was a pretty speedy guy in the collegiate level so it's just but you know a 40-yard dash i think is hugely overrated and it's like oh my god you're 40 times not good you're gonna suck no no no in what way does like your 40 time make you i have no concerns for kyle hamilton he's he a bigger guy. He's got good ball skills. He can lay out hits.

And, yeah, he's reasonably fast. And I have nothing. There's nothing wrong with him in my eyes. I don't have a problem with him. You can make a case even that he's one of the best overall players in the draft. That might be a bit of a stretch, but I see where you're coming from. Oh, is it? Is it really?

Because on the official website for the NFL, you know, for all their 22 prospects, Kyle Hamilton is the highest rated prospect at a 6.81. Beating out guys like Aiden Hutchinson and Evan Neal. I mean, I know you're not, but I'm just saying he is the highest rated prospect in this class.

So people just stop wearing him at his 40 time. Yeah. I'm not worried about his 40 time. I just want to see how fast he is on the field. If he's blazing fast in the field, we don't have a problem. I could care less about the 40 time. And I've seen like horrendous combines and then go on to have major success in the NFL.

Just like, you know, for an example, Orlando Brown Jr. And he went to be pretty good for us. Oh, yeah. He was like a projected like late first, early second round pick and a bad combine. Didn't tank him like the fourth. He went in the third. We got him and Mark Andrews in the third we got him and mark andrews in the third that's how good draft class we had or you know tom brady had a historically bad draft class

you know every draft we see him running the 40 but yeah yeah he's still kicking he's still i think rich isin actually might be faster than him, but maybe not now because I've seen Brady run. He's faster now than he was then. He should be. With that whole TB12

magic that he uses. Magic. The method did work, let's not forget. Yeah, it did. It did give him seven Superbowl rings. So I will give you all. Whoa, whoa,

whoa, whoa, whoa. He started the method. He started the method. Hold up. Guess what? Didn't he start in like 2013?

He started the method after he lost to the giants. Oh God, we're doing this again. Yeah. You started. One day where you don't mention the giants. I look forward to it, man. I got to say one thing. One started with that. You started with the Giants. After you lost the game. One day where you don't mention the Giants. I look forward to it. Man, I got to say one thing.

One thing that's qualified with you. I read you mentioned the Giants than the Yankees. I read that. No, if you mention the Yankees, I swear I will. Guys, we got to stay on topic. The greatest team. I know. But what I was going to say with the draft, I love your guys' thing.

But what's really impressive for me, this draft class, is i really want to see what the giants are gonna do i know justin oh why are you talking about them but i'm gonna say one thing i really want to see what the giants are gonna do regarding if they're gonna draft the quarterback or just go for all defenders so i can't wait for like what the draft is gonna hold regarding with the future because we definitely need an old line we definitely need some defenders since we've lost a lot. So I think this class, knowing that we have the first, we have two picks in the top ten, so I can't wait to see. That's what I'm thinking off my mind.

Personally, I think you guys should go more so for O-line. I don't think there's, like, a quarterback that is necessarily better than Daniel Jones. Indeed, and that's been an issue for years with the Giants regarding drafting. You look at why Eli Manning retired early. We didn't have a good O-line, so I definitely want to see what they're going to do regarding what O-line or something.

I just want to get out my mind. Yeah, no problem. Coming up next, our favorite segment of the day, the Fumble Rooski Fan Box. You are listening to the Fumble Rooski Podcast. No sign yet. Hamilton comes down with a football. They're saying it's a catch. It's caught. Diggs. Side-eyed.

Touchdown. Unbelievable. Slings it way down the field. The one catch. Sammy Watt takes from a touchdown. Sandy Ward comes for the touchdown! Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the Fumble Whiskey Podcast by Power 88, Dean Radio and Fans Only Sports. I am your wonderful host, Justin Tucker, along with my amazing co-hosts, CJ Medeiros and Justin Hill. We are now, it's about time for the Fumarusti Fan Box. We post a question filter on our Instagram every Monday, and you can respond with hot takes, questions, and more.

And we will discuss and give you a shout-out to our podcast. The question of this week is, who was the best receiver in this draft? Before I read them out, anybody know? Do you guys have a favorite receiver in this draft? Yeah, but I answer the fan box, so we'll get to it. Can't spoil the surprise. Fair, fair, fair enough. All right, so Stephen Parker said Drakeondon that was an interesting one i

thought many people weren't going to go drake london but i like i think he's a good product and i think he'd be used amazingly in a system like san uh los angeles with the chargers because they already have keenan allen and mike williams if they give if they get Drake London, that might be pretty ridiculous. The next one is CJ, and he says Drake London. Oh, yeah, that is my dude, Drake London. He's basically like a skinny DK Metcalf. He's like 6'5", 210, 33-inch arms. He's long.

He's fast. He's got an amazing work ethic he can play outside he can play in the slot he's a deep threat but he can bowl people over he's he's strong he's fast he's agile but uh my only big knock on him is his injury history. Currently, if I'm wrong, but I believe there's a stat that says, I don't think he's played more than eight games in a season. That's going to need to change. But overall, I would say he's a great player. But the NFL is elite conditioning coaches,

so hopefully his injury history goes away. But trust me, if he lands the right team, this guy could be a future Hall of Famer. And a lot of people already compare him to Mike Evans. So I have like total confidence in Drake London. He is, in my opinion, probably the best receiver in this draft. Maybe an argument could be made for Garrett Wilson, but I'm a Drake'm a drake london guy i agree i think he he's definitely a top three receiver in this draft class

uh tyson tate a regular on the show says no brainer my bama brother jameson williams john met you going second round so he's basically picking all the bam and receivers which is kind of a cop out but i'll accept it uh yeah tyson i i agree my only knock on both of them is that you're kind of playing the long game if you draft them because as it sits with both williams and mechi there's like no guarantee that they are going to be healthy to start the season. But both of them have tremendous upside. I agree. When they weren't

healthy in college, look at the results. They were pretty damn good together. Yep. If only Jameson Williams was healthy in that national championship game, it might have been different. But Brian Mucker, who, again, is out for this episode of the show, he says Drake London as well.

I'm noticing a theme. I'm noticing it too. Jack Grubb says Jameson Williams, if the ACL doesn't hurt his 40-time, or Garrett Wilson with that vertical. Now, this is – Garrett Wilson is one that I don't hear often or often enough, but I agree with that one. I think he can be one of the best receivers in this draft class. Oh, yeah.

Yeah. Yeah, the thing with – oh, sorry. No, go ahead. Garrett Wilson is actually the highest graded receiver in this draft. Now it's something like I disagree with. Like I said, I'm a Drake London guy,

but for me, Garrett Wilson's a close number two ran a four, three, eight 40. And for, but see, here's the thing. He's kind of like a Jack of all trades.

Everything. A receiver is supposed to be good at he's good at he's good at everything but he's not great you know he doesn't stick out in one area but if he polishes up his game oh man he's gonna be something special yeah i i agree uh jacob buckley says drake linden latimore darn right love on this nick norman said i don't know about best but i think people are under underrating johan dodson yes i think not enough is said about him that receiver out of penn state is different uh yeah mean, he's good. He's got some potential, don't get me wrong, but I'm not the biggest Jahan Dotson fan,

and I'm not saying he can't be great, but here's what I see. He's fast. He's compared to Emmanuel Sanders, but he doesn't work between the hashes. He's not a good slot receiver. And he's more of like a deep guy. But, you know, if you're a deep threat, you have to run precise routes. And he kind of like fades off at the end.

Route running is a question. And his hands are good. But my biggest red flag for him is, despite the fact he's a deep threat, he has not shown consistently that he can win those 50 50 balls but you just you want him to catch more 50 50 balls uh well that plus i'd like to see crisper route running but don't get me wrong he's a late first round pick maybe early second if he slides but that's a good space for him he like like his game needs some polish but this is another guy that i i like him though i mean i'm not gonna say he's a scrub and should

be undrafted but there's some work that needs to be done you know you're not perfect you just came from college he lands with the right team he could also really be dangerous yeah and jacob grubb says danny gray sleeper pick uh well um that's something i personally have nothing against danny gray but i mean but he's not a first round pick like where did he go like smu or something like that yeah danny gray smu i i just have his profile right here, but he's fast, let me tell you. He runs a 4.33. That'll do. That'll do. But, yeah, speed kills in the NFL.

Look at guys like Tyreek Hill. He was a late-round draft pick, but his speed was just unbelievable. So, yeah, Danny Gray is also one of my sleepers. My only problem with this question is I don't hear enough about Chris Alave or Trey Burks and Sky Moore. I'm kind of a low-key fan of Sky Moore, and I think he will show his production in the league. But I don't hear much about Chris Alave.

I keep hearing about, you you know the regulars the drake london's the the jameson williams but not enough about chris alavi which i get but last year i think i think garrett wilson's better but you know what i'll tell you what tucker after the show i'll uh I'll send you my receiver rankings. Alright. And I want to just bounce them off you, you know? Mm-hmm. Anything else, guys? Anything you guys want to get off your mind?

Justin, Hill, what about you? This has just been a great show, you guys, tonight. Aw, thanks. Oh, yeah, we give 100. Stop it. Alright, that'll do it for us tonight, guys. Thank you for listening.

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