The Fumblerooski Podcast - Giving Credit -Ep 371 The Fumblerooski Podcast

Episode Date: July 15, 2025

On tonight's episode, 3 players get 4 yr extensions: Trey Smith (Chiefs), and Sauce Gardner and Garret Wilson. What is the outlook for the Jets? How will other teams respond to the Sauce extension whe...n thinking about their own CBs? Along with this, Chris Costich and CJ Medeiros make their predictions for NFL Honors. Who wins MVP? Will Ben Johnson win Coach of the Year? Can Lamar get his 3rd? Will Joe Burrow finally get some hardware?

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Couple extensions on this random Tuesday in July, Garrett Wilson and Sauce Gardner getting extensions from the Jet Sauce Gardner being paid or now the highest paid quarterback in the NFL and on the AFC. Trey Smith getting his extension four years 90 mil. After this, NFL honors. Who do we have winning NFL MVP, offense player of the year, defense player of the year? More on that. This is the Full Marouski Podcast.
Starting point is 00:00:36 It may not have always showed it in the staff sheet, but you can see him making throws when he needs to make the throws. Back to back games where he has three touchdowns. Someone's gotta get that six or seven spot. He's an elite wide receiver as a rookie truly a lose-lose scenario for both sides Chris Kostich he's CJ Madero's Today's July 15th. Sorry, I like lost a little bit there. I don't know how much I cut out for a second, but either way, July 15th, beautiful July Tuesday, to say the least. CJ, you staying cool over there?
Starting point is 00:01:23 Yeah, well, as cool as possible, you know how these New England summers are. It could be worse. We could be in like the deep, deep south, but you know, it's nice to be cool wherever you can. Yeah, about like, I'm at my girlfriend's house right now. It's cool. 90 degrees in Boston at the moment is it's select, to say the least. But yeah, if you heard the intro, Garry I'm not sure. It's it's it's Wilson happened today within like 48 maybe but yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:08 Anyways, Garrett Wilson signing a four year 130 million dollar extension. Sauce Gardner signing a four year 120.4 million dollar extension. Sauce Gardner extension making in the highest paid cornerback in the league. Was it all, it wasn't all time, right? I don't think so. It just said in the league. Yeah, that's why I thought too, because A, it would have been ridiculous if he was the highest paid cornerback of all time.
Starting point is 00:02:40 B, it's a little ridiculous that he's the highest paid cornerback in the league to begin with. But at the same time, you know, resetting kind of resetting the quarterback market at that point. So kind of a good thing. But if you're, say, the Patriots, well, kind of looking at who you got corner, you got Christian Gonzalez, who's about to be in his third year. People are gonna be making the argument that Christian Gonzalez is a better quarterback
Starting point is 00:03:13 than Saas Gardner. I mean, you could probably throw five cornerbacks out there that are better than Saas Gardner in general, maybe even 10. So there's gonna be a lot of, there's gonna be a lot of new highest paid cornerbacks in the league coming up probably within the next two years. But CJ. Yeah, I would imagine so because originally, Derek Stingley set the market and now it's sauce and if I had to guess I feel like Gonzales is probably next up did McDuffie get an extension because if not, he's probably gonna be up there as well and
Starting point is 00:03:56 The thing with sauce is that he's never really been able to recapture that magic of his rookie year. I mean he's statistically like declined or whatever. He's just, I just, he's not, he's never really been a ballhawk. And a lot of people say, well, that's not important for a corner. It's like, yes and no. Cause look, I know there's this fallacy where, oh, if they rack up a lot of interceptions, it means quarterback's willing to target them and they don't respect them. And while that's been proven false many and many a time,
Starting point is 00:04:34 if you're not sauces on the other end of that spectrum where he just doesn't force turnovers, he's just not that big of a difference maker. And everyone's like, oh, but he can erase players. It's like, OK, he did. But look at what happened last year. The refs finally started throwing flags against him because a big crux of his game is just the fact
Starting point is 00:04:57 that he gets away with so many holding penalties. And then when the flag started flying against him, oh, boy, did it change fast Now I personally I think it's gonna change Because you know now that Aaron Glenn's gonna be the head coach I'm thinking that he could definitely teach sauce to avoid that and maybe become more of a difference maker But don't get me wrong. He's still a good corner like at least top five top ten slam dunk, but the You mentioned Trent McDuffie, he's on the final year of his rookie contract, still has not gotten an extension yet. But talk about a fifth year contract option for this season, which you would get $13.6 million on that. but another article that came out back in April from Forbes, Chief Salt Pro-Trend McDuffie would
Starting point is 00:06:09 love a long-term contract with Chief. So to your point, it's coming, potentially. Yeah, possibly. The thing is though, Kansas City, you saw what happened, they let Ligerius Sneed walk. Or no, though, they traded him. They traded him. Ea not afraid of shedding tal was I literally just said and New England, most of the Kansas City is a history of not resigning their good defense back. Probably if I'm wrong, but the last corner, like pure corner that they drafted
Starting point is 00:06:52 who got a second deal, I'm pretty sure was Kyle Long. That was Mack and the Man. Because Esantia Estanio was allowed to walk, Pete Lee was allowed to walk, Daryl Rivas was allowed to walk, Malcolm Butler was allowed to walk, Saffron Gilmore was allowed to walk, Jason Butler was allowed to walk. Gilmore was allowed to
Starting point is 00:07:07 walk. Jason Jackson was allowed to walk as a fan. I'm like bracing myself but overall this more of a possible than whatever. So the Jets I think did a good move by you know hurting their enemies with the cats and the chiefs but we
Starting point is 00:07:22 should probably move on to Wilsman now. Yeah. Um I was I'm not sure. but we should probably move on to Garrett Wilson now. Yeah. I was trying to look real quick. Look up Patriots cornerbacks that have gone a second contract but that's probably going to be take a little too long to try
Starting point is 00:07:41 to dig for. Yeah. Also, I don't count UDFAs though. I don't but keep going Yeah, so Garrett Wilson for your hundred thirty million dollar extension pretty sure it was None of my I was thinking that sauce gardener one, but yeah for your hundred thirty million dollar extension Either This kind of goes hand in hand with the sauce deal as well. Like you got to pay your guys the big, the big bucks to keep them. And we were talking about this before the show too, like Dan, if you do
Starting point is 00:08:14 damned, if you don't, you got to yada yada. You're now the question of if Garrett Wilson should be getting paid 130 mil total, that's different. That's kind of up for debate. But either way, the Jets are doing what they need to do and keeping their homegrown guys so they can at least, because right now this is their building blocks. They're currently trying to rebuild. They're in a rebuilding stage. What do you do first? building blocks. They're currently trying to rebuild. They're in a rebuilding stage.
Starting point is 00:08:50 What do you do first? Sign the homegrown guys to lock those guys in. Those are going to be the guys that are going to help set the culture. So that's another thing that I kind of see with these two happening within a couple of days of each other. Yeah, you're right. I mean, within a couple days of each other. Yeah, you're right. I mean, you know, this was the deadline to get it done, which is probably why, you know, it happened. So, honestly, I can't fault the Jets for doing it. It's just, I don't care if they have a new head coach. They're just, they're a directionless team.
Starting point is 00:09:18 You know what I mean? Obviously, they're not gonna compete for anything this year. They're certainly not bad enough to tank. I just, what's the goal? What's the prize? What do you want for anything this year. They're certainly not bad enough to tank. I just, what's the goal? What's the prize? What do you want to do this year? Because don't say Super Bowl or bust. You're not, you're not going to that.
Starting point is 00:09:35 That's not realistic. Yeah, I know. And you can't tank for a good pick so you can land like Arch Manning or Garrett Nussmeyer in the draft. So So I just the only reason why I don't like this is because I don't know like where they're going But that's neither here nor there It's still smart and there's one more person we got to talk to before we wrap up the segment and that's Just Trace Smith. That's pretty much it. He got like a four year 90
Starting point is 00:10:06 million dollar deal 70 mil guaranteed. He's a top three guard in the league and that's good. But when I saw this and I'm like, isn't this the guy that got bullied by the Eagles? Him and Joe Tooney on that left side just got embarrassed or not left side. He's a right guard but you know, he got embarrassed that entire line got embarrassed. So Kansas City better put a clause that con says, hey, man, no more of that. Yeah. I mean, I don't really fault Joe Tooney was playing out of position but yeah, so kind of kind of the same thing with Gare Wilson's Sauce Gardener, right? Chiefs franchise tag, Trey Smith,
Starting point is 00:10:50 before free agency or just the offseason in general started. Now they do right by him and get him paid. That's really the long and short, really. Yeah, you're right. But anything else you want to say? I'm not sure. I'm not sure. the comeback player of the year, coach of the year, La in the staff sheet but yo throws when he needs to m back games where he has t
Starting point is 00:11:35 got to get that six or se wide receiver as a rookie scenario for both sides. truly a lose lose scenario for both sides. Welcome back to the Fumbler's Podcast. You see J. Medeiros, Chris Kostich. Time for your NFL honors segment. This whole, we've been doing a bunch of different segments throughout the off season for the off season really, you know, we got done talking about
Starting point is 00:12:06 all the divisions, doing a preview on that, gave our NFL rankings last week, NFL team rankings last week for all 32 teams, so if you want to take a peek at that, that was from last week's episode. Today, we give our predictions of who's going to win each of the NFL awards, not names, the Walter Payton Man of the Year award. And we weren't gonna do the new Lyman award that they're doing as well. What is that award again called? It's called like Protector of the Year or something weird like that. We're not gonna do that one because that's gonna be a shit show to figure out
Starting point is 00:12:47 and that's gonna come down to like the most advanced analytics you could think of. So yeah, we'll get started with that. Which one should we start with first? We're starting with rookies of the year according to Adam. All right, rookies of the year. the year. Rookies of the year, according to Adam. Alright, rookies of the year. I'll go
Starting point is 00:13:10 first with the offensive rookie of the year and actually we both had the same offensive rookie of the year. Now come to think of it. It's Ashton Jantze. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, who else is it really going to be and look, I know we've been burned on people like B. Shaw Robinson before
Starting point is 00:13:27 But hear me out Ashton Genti is just different Now that's really it Ashton Genti is literally just different now Consider this if you would viewers at home I Would say That Genti I would viewers at home. I would say that Gentie with combined with a head coach and
Starting point is 00:13:53 offensive coordinator establishing a very safe, very run first offense with Geno Smith who now is a real running game couple with the fact that your top type, your top target is Tide and Brock Bowers. That's just that's got all the
Starting point is 00:14:09 makings for offense rookie of the year, especially if you saw Gentia Boise State. Oh, he's that's different. The only red flag is that he's not going to have to play San Jose State and Wyoming now, but real NFL teams but running backs, they tend to translate pretty well, especially in this era.
Starting point is 00:14:28 Yeah, I'm very excited. Yeah, I'm very excited to watch Ashton Getty. He's so electrifying, especially this last year in college and I just think like just him being Like just him being coached by a legend in Pete Carroll, even if it's just for his rookie season could pay in a lot of dividends to a huge breakout rookie year, which obviously we're predicting. And hopefully for a very fruitful NFL career, but that obviously depends on how this rookie year goes. But I wanted to ask one question to you though, before we moved on to defensive rookie of the year.
Starting point is 00:15:14 And it kind of actually kind of does tie into defensive rookie of the year and it's Travis Hunter, right? Because chances are he's gonna play both sides of the ball. So I guess what are the chances that he could, I'm not saying win, the ball. because chances are he's going to play both sides of the ball. So, I guess what are the chances that he could I'm not saying win both but
Starting point is 00:15:37 win one or the other. Uh I would say fairly good both. No way though. The NFL would never let that happen. No. No. Alright, defense rookie of the the pick and he's going to Baltimore. Right. And that's just going to be a great place for him to thrive. Is it not? Yeah. And the fact that Baltimore has a reputation of physicality, you know, they were real slappy in the face team. They have that murder mentality that tends to be how they are.
Starting point is 00:16:25 You know, that's just the culture they've curated just tough, tough, tough. And Mike Green fits the bill. The only thing I'm concerned about is will the league let him win because in case you don't know, in college, he was accused of being a bit of a diddler. So, on that, those, those are the kind of things that the media really doesn't like to, you know, reward but I feel
Starting point is 00:17:00 like in the NFL, you kind of get a blank slate there. Yeah, I, I feel like that doesn't usually Take too much of an effect. I feel like a lot of like take him noon for example, like he gets What was it? He got a cop shop lifting when he was down in Florida and then it kind of just wiped It was wiped away once he got to Auburn slash the league so mm-hmm kind of like what you said, blank slate once you get in the league. I went not so rogue for mine. I just kept it pretty simple.
Starting point is 00:17:34 Not saying you're pick is rogue CJ, but I went I kept it still with it more within the lines. I went Abdul Carter with my defense rookie of the year. Just an absolute beast on at the edge. And I just think of him on this Giants defense. Like we talked all year last year, how underrated defenses and how often just how often the defense kept the Giants in games and I think you add Abdul Carter into that mix and I think it's just fireworks. Absolute fireworks. I'm not saying Abdul Carter's getting 20 sacks like straight-handed but I think he's gonna really really excel
Starting point is 00:18:23 on that Giants defense a lot. What the hell are you laughing about? Sorry, my I have to get the uh, whatever it's called. I was turning the volume up on my computer. I was wondering why I was having audio issues. I'm like, oh, wait a minute. My volume. Oh, I see. I'm stupid. It's okay. We all have those moments. We're going to you want to make a comment about dual Carter or no. I mean, I
Starting point is 00:18:56 feel like it's the safe bet. It's just I am a little worried about his development because you know, it's a Giants Giants but but uh yeah, I think you should be fine. I understand why he's first though. I mean he was a
Starting point is 00:19:13 beast of Penn State. Yeah II. I'm pretty sure he's the betting favorite right now too. He is. Yes. Yeah. Alright. We're going to take a quick break when we come back. We're going to get into uh we're going to give our comeback
Starting point is 00:19:24 player of the year and our coach of the year predictions. This is the Fulmerusti Podcast. It may not have always showed it in the staff sheet, but you can see him making throws when he needs to make the throws. Back to back games where he has three touchdowns. Someone's got to get that six or seven spot. He's an elite wide receiver as a rookie. Truly a lose lose scenario for both sides. Welcome back. Welcome back to the Fumbarustky Podcast. CJ Madero, Chris Kostich. I kind of screwed up. We're going to get into the players of the year first and then we're going to get into
Starting point is 00:19:57 come back to the player of the year and coach of the year. Screwed up the system for a second there. Offense player of the year, CJ and I had the same guy, Jamar Chase. Seeing how he performed this year, I think it's going to be hard to say that he won't get it, especially if the same thing happens this year like it did last year where just Joe Burrow and the rest of the offense is just putting up absolute numbers points points points yards yards yards touchdowns touchdowns touchdowns I can see it happening and obviously CJ you do the workouts. I can see it
Starting point is 00:20:47 happening and obviously CJ you do too. Yeah, absolutely. I mean everyone, you know the fancy nerds will say stuff like oh but Higgins is a handcuff. He's going to be eating into his targets and they use that argument for these real life
Starting point is 00:21:03 problems to which I say yeah and look at what happened happened last year Jamar chase still ate and You know now that he's got his deal man. He and bro just can take to the next level 110% Yeah, I I feel like it's kind of like the top five wide receivers right like you could really have I think If it wasn't Jamar, I would have put Justin Jefferson there. But he has the actual problem. You mentioned like a lot of people argue that T-Higgins is going to feed into his catches and yada, yada, yada, which doesn't actually happen. Whereas Justin Jefferson, his problem isn't Jordan Addison. His problem is how JJ McCarthy is going to perform this year.
Starting point is 00:21:46 That's his problem. And that's probably what's going to limit him from winning offensive player of the year if he wouldn't be up for it. Defensive player of the year. Now this is different. I know that for a fact. I'm going back to back Pat Sertan because when you look at the numbers right now, he's putting up near champ Bailey numbers
Starting point is 00:22:11 if he isn't already. And if we see this continue to progress, I don't see, if he has a, pretty much same thing as Demar Chase, right? He has the same year as last year where he's putting up these very relative champ Bailey numbers. the same year as he has a pretty much same thing as Demar chase, right? He has the same year as last year where he's putting up these very
Starting point is 00:22:29 relative champion numbers. He's going to wipe the floor again on defense player of the year. Yeah, personally, it's hard to go back to back especially as a DV. You know what I mean, Chris? DVs especially I'm going considering fair enough employer of the year. I'm a, I personally am gonna go with Michael Parsons. And I know that's a bit controversial. And I know that, you know, I've picked him in the past only for him to really only end up being top three
Starting point is 00:23:46 but consider this my fellow Americans he's in a contract year and Chris you know the rules and so do I to quote Rick Astley Yep layers in their contract year just Ball out. That's just what they do. No one knows why no one knows how but they must have money on their mind and they're like, oh, you're just ball out. That's just what they do. No one knows why. No one knows how but they must have
Starting point is 00:24:11 money on their mind because oh my god, they they just tend to go off and I'm thinking about that with Michael Parsons because look, they gave Dak his new extension CD lamb just got paid and if you're Michael Parsons, you're sitting there and you're
Starting point is 00:24:46 especially with Parson like he was hurt for a lot of last year too so I think there's a good like a good year for him to kind of do it as you just excel especially with the contract here I did a quick search because I was thinking about Champailly still and want to see how many defense player of the year she won he's actually never won defense player of the year and I want to see how many defense players he won. He's actually never won defense player of the year and I completely forgot about this because the year in question that he probably would have won it was 2006 but he didn't win that year and a lot of people thought he got snubbed to Jason Taylor. the you got stuff. Tenor interceptions. Come on. Um anyways, gonna take a quick break. Now we're gonna when we come back, we're gonna get into Comeback Player of the Year and coach the year. This is Homebrews podcast. It may not have always showed it in the staff sheet, but you can see him making throws when
Starting point is 00:25:58 he needs to make the throws. Back to back games where he has three touchdowns. Someone's gotta get that six or seven spot. He's an elite wide receiver as a rookie. Truly a lose-lose scenario for both sides. Welcome back to the Fulmarovski podcast. He's TJ. I'm Chris, Powerade, Dean Radio, SQL Weapon Consulting. I want to apologize for all the mishaps and me lying to you about what's coming up next. I'll take the blame on screwing up Comeback Player of the Year and Coach of the Year with the Players of the Year part. But after that, the MVP part, I just, I got the schedules screwed up that Adam sent us. Adam, our glorious executive producer
Starting point is 00:26:48 Come back play the year and coach the year We both have the same one. It's Aiden Hutchinson I feel like it'd be a crime if he doesn't end up having like 15 plus sacks this season and absolutely Put the whole league and absolute whirlwind because that's how freaking good he was. Look at his stats before he got injured and he was winning defensive player of the year by a landslide easily. At least he was on pace for that. that's what got him, right? I believe it was an ACL tear. And when it happens earlier in the year, usually it's fine. That means you're gonna be ready for the next season, no problem. But there's usually a bit of an off-ish year, but I still think he's gonna get at least 10 plus sacks. So that's come out play of the year material for sure.
Starting point is 00:28:05 coach of the year. 100%. Um and then we have the same o together. One Mike Mike. know it was Mike. Absolutely all the new coaches that were hired through the coaching carousel, this is obviously the top, if not the top guy, one of the top guys to go and get, which the Patriots did that. And of course, with everything that they did this off seasonseason kind of is moving in a direction where the Patriots are gonna be in a great spot and Hopefully perform well
Starting point is 00:28:52 And I think that just having Mike Rable there He's gonna him coach. He's going to coach the Patriots into a lot of wins Yeah, and I think that's good and that's usually what happens with coach of the year, right? coach the Patriots into a lot of wins. Yeah, I think that's good and that's usually what happens with coach of the year, right? It's it's usually a lot
Starting point is 00:29:12 of the time the first year head coach or it's always the best new coach, not necessarily who has the most wins, which I see this every year. It's nothing. I have a problem with but as a whole, there's times where it's not that obviously like Kevin Stefanski wanted a couple or they want it back to back. I forget he wanted the year that the couple years ago, he wanted the flag go run year. He did most. Obviously, it's the most recent time where it wasn't like a new head coach. But it just feels like it's bound to happen like it.
Starting point is 00:29:52 And for what it's worth, the reason that I picked Rabel and not Ben Johnson for the Bears is that Mike Raible is a known commodity. You know what you're getting with Mike Raible. Ben Johnson. I mean, you can say the same thing for Raible but there's even less of a guarantee that Ben Johnson is
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Starting point is 00:30:58 Tim, Liam Cullen on the Jags, Dallas hired Schottenheimer, the Saints hired uh Kellen Moore, Jets hired Aaron Glenn I'm going to go with uh Kellen Moore, Jets hired Aaron Glenn and Raiders hired Pete Carroll. Okay. I'm going to go through the list. Mike Rabel or Schottenheimer. Huh? Rabel or
Starting point is 00:31:24 Schottenheimer. What's your question still. Still. Still. Still team. I'm going to go with Pete go with variable because Carol, like I said, the the Raiders aren't really an ambitious team. They're just trying to get a clean slate before they pivot to the future. This Pete Carol's essentially on cleanup duty, as I have mentioned many, many, many a time. Yeah, I was more inferring, like, who would you rather have as a coach doesn't matter, like what team situation is, yada yada like
Starting point is 00:32:46 prime coaching, who would you rather take? So you would lean Carol though? Yeah like tilt, tilt. I'd say the same thing as well. Nice, that was fun. I had a great time with that. I'm going to have a great time with that. I'm going to have a great time with this too. Um the you want to jump right to MVP Chris by the way. Yeah, that's because that's why we don't need a break. No, we
Starting point is 00:33:15 don't. Uh that's what I was looking to do. I was losing my words for a second there MVP. MVP. Yeah, let's let's run it. Let's do it. The floor is yours. Thank you. You're very generous. Now, I know this is a bold take because everybody says, I like Lamar to get revenge. Oh, maybe Allen will repeat.
Starting point is 00:33:36 He's motivated or Mahomes going to reclaim his throne, to which I say to you, what about Joe Burrow? This man last season statistically was the best quarterback in the NFL and got zero love for it because the Bengals defense decided to pull a disappearing act. You think Burrows gonna take that lying down? He's gonna come back and I would imagine be just as good as last year. Now that Chase and Higgins are paid, he's ready to just fully let it rip and the defense, I don't think it could get much worse. Of course, that would try Henderson. That's going to be
Starting point is 00:34:16 something, but they did get rid of Lou Anarumo, which you never know that could that could uh that could be I'm not going to go into the details but I forgive y'all. If Joe Burrow made the playoffs last year, slam dunk, he, I'm not even in the division and slam dunk, he is MVP. Like I said, because statistically, he was the best. Most completions,
Starting point is 00:34:55 most passing yards, most passing touchdowns and I think he's going to do it again. I agree. Um I, my MVP for my MVP prediction is going to be Lamar Jackson. I wouldn't say it's in the same regard as Lamar is going to get his revenge. It's just efficiency. That's all it is. My one thing about Burrow is like, what if the same exact thing happens? What if the same thing happens last year or this year? Goes off again and the Bengals just put up a stinker of a season. Yeah, you can make the argument that he could still win MVP as a seven seed,
Starting point is 00:35:47 which in my personal opinion, I feel like he should win at that point. Like he could have if he had made, if they had made the playoffs last year. But with Lamar Jackson, he is statistically one of the most efficient quarterbacks in the league, if not the most efficient quarterback in the league in terms of completion percentage, just touchdowns to interceptions. It's almost like a running Aaron Rodgers type of thing. That's how ridiculous the stats are for Lamar.
Starting point is 00:36:22 And I just see him doing the same exact thing. But he's done basically the same exact thing every single year. Not a ton of turnovers, a lot of touchdowns, whether it be passing or rushing. And he leads his team to the playoffs, usually as a top 2C. And I don't see that or I see that happening again. And we've had this discussion many times too. A lot of times the MVP award just goes to the quarterback that has the best overall record. So, and I guess this is me saying that the Ravens are gonna win AFC North
Starting point is 00:36:59 and this is gonna be how it happens. And Tuck would probably kiss me if he heard me saying this right now. I would imagine so. Yeah. Not saying that I disagree that Joe Burrow is gonna win MVP. Like I think he has a great shot at it.
Starting point is 00:37:19 I think that if Lamar Jackson and the Baltimore Ravens didn't exist, I think Joe Burrow would be a shoe in. He would be the odds on favor. Is he the, who's the odds on favor right now for MVP? You keep going. I'll tell you in a sec.
Starting point is 00:37:35 Yeah. Yeah. I'll look it up. No, Chris, Chris, I'm doing keep going, man. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. Um, where was I? Yeah. I'm not sure what you're saying I'm going to go with Jaden What? Same. That'll be that'll be interesting too. Like if you.
Starting point is 00:38:28 All right. Let's forget about the guys that we just said, right? Dark Horse MVP candidate. Dark Horse MVP. No. Oh, OK. No, I was going to say CJ Stroud is my Dark Horse. What about you? Honestly, I probably would have said Jayden Daniels if he wasn't top five in MVP odds. Um I could
Starting point is 00:38:53 honestly see Baker Mayfield maybe be in a dark horse. I respect it. Cuz like uh I can't think of how many touchdowns he had. Uh last year he had like near 40 and that was with without Chris Godwin without Mike Evans for like a whole month month of the season really the receiver room in general was kind of depleted at one point and he had to rely on Kate I love
Starting point is 00:39:16 Kate on but he had to rely on Kate on for a good month of the season. So now he's got a full house. So that's that's kind of where I'm taking. Yeah, I hear you. I do. I mean Baker is another good back. Yeah. I I just I hope for a little parody like I hope for that not in like the sense of like Lam, Josh Allen, or Mahomes, or any of those top guys get injured or someone.
Starting point is 00:39:49 A very natural parody. It would be Jordan Love. They could make Toyotathon 365. Toy on a thought from September from the second weekend of September to the what is it the second weekend of February? Second Sunday of February. Yeah, that would be that'd be funny. Ah Other other news and the NFL world Terry McLaurin making some interesting comments More or less. It's just him expressing his frustration about not getting his extension because like most wide receivers he wants to get the bag or like most people in general he wants to get the bag. So that's kind of where his frustration has been. It's kind of been not foiling but it's kind of been a thing for the majority of the off has been. It's kind players have said about an extension. They don't get it and then they're traded What was the ratio on that because usually they just end up trying extension the team makes them work
Starting point is 00:41:15 Do you know why because nothing ever happened? Yeah I this like popped up in my mind because I was out to lunch and saw this on Pat McAfee or Pardon me Fox Apparently Ben Johnson having a very strict program in Chicago Bears Camp right now, which Yep, they need it and this was just a Roman Tuesday quote. And it was like, this is great. This is what we need accountability. But that was like the main thing. Accountability is what we need. And first thing I thought of was, well, no shit. Mike Rable is doing the same fucking thing.
Starting point is 00:41:57 So every NFL team is doing that except for like Miami and probably Indy. except for like Miami and probably Indy. Yeah. In terms of legal stuff, can't believe we have two things on the legal docket. Jordan Addison, what is it? Court today or something like that. Either way, they're hearing his case.
Starting point is 00:42:19 It'll be over in a minute, so don't worry. I'm not gonna get into the details of the case because I don't even know the details of the case but if he is found guilty then he's suspended for three years, three years, three games. Um and then biggest, probably the bigger story of
Starting point is 00:42:35 the weekend was uh Quintin's the uh second round pick for the Browns being arrested over the weekend on a tested violence charge. Yeah, in Florida he was. Yeah, Browns haven't even signed him to a contract yet, but I'd love to see how that one ends up unfolding. But that is all the scheduled content
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