The Fumblerooski Podcast - Hat Tricks -Ep 318 The Fumblerooski Podcast

Episode Date: December 11, 2024

Josh Allen improves his MVP case but in a losing effort?? HUHHHH?? The Rams keep their playoff hopes alive as they take down the Bills and hold off their 4th quarter comeback efforts. How much more ca...n Sean McDermott ruin the Bills' chances of being in the Super Bowl? The Chiefs continue to work their dark magic and clinch the AFC West on a doink! Put yet another crazy Chiefs win on the Bingo Card. 7 teams are now mathematically eliminated from the playoffs, Chris Costich and CJ Medeiros take an in-depth look of how we got here with these 7 teams. Along with this, the Week 14 Top 3 Bottom 3 and so much more!

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Starting point is 00:00:00 the Rams get the upset victory on the bills and a game of the year candidate. But lo and behold, the Josh Allen MVP sweepstakes rose in a losing effort, but he had six touchdowns total. How does that happen? Sean McDermott being a dumb ass again, want to surprise the chiefs continue their dark magic and beat the Chargers on a last second doink.
Starting point is 00:00:28 This is the Fumble Rooski Podcast. It may not have always showed it in the stat sheet, but you can see him making throws when he needs to make the throws. Back-to-back games where he has three touchdowns. Someone's got to get that six or seven spot. He's an elite wide receiver as a rookie. Truly a lose-lose scenario for both sides. Welcome to the Fulmer Ruski Podcast powered by Powered 18 Radio and Secret Weapon Consulting. I'm Chris Kostich. He's CJ Medeiros. Boy, what a week of football. Wasn't the greatest week in the world. But we had one game in particular in the four o'clock slate that i don't really know who really thought this was going to be the way it
Starting point is 00:01:14 was but holy moly was this a game the rams upsetting the bills 44 to 42 on on Sunday in what could possibly be the game of the year. This was the first time in NFL history where both teams had five passing touchdowns, where there was five passing touchdowns, five rushing touchdowns total, over 900-plus yards, and no turnovers. Insanity. Josh Allen, 342 yards, three touchdowns, three rushing touchdowns along with three passing touchdowns. Matthew Stafford, two passing touchdowns on 320 yards. Kyron Williams with two rushing touchdowns. Matthew Stafford, two passing touchdowns on 320 yards.
Starting point is 00:02:05 Kyron Williams with two rushing touchdowns. Puka Nakua showing that he's a top five receiver in the league. 12 catches, 162 yards, and one touchdown. One receiving, one rushing touchdown. Good God. What? Just looking at these stats is just insane, especially seeing the Rams dominate in time possession,
Starting point is 00:02:32 38 minutes to 21 minutes for the Bills. And the Rams had a massive lead going into the fourth quarter as well. They were up 37 to 31 at one point, or pardon, 38-31 at one point. And I started to blow the lead. The Bills make their comeback. And this is the one reason why the Bills will not win the Super Bowl ever. It's because of Sean McDermott. Sean McDermott continues to be a dumbass.
Starting point is 00:03:12 That last touchdown that Pukunukua scored on, the little screen go, nine players on the field for the defense. Nine players on the field on defense for the Bills. Guy like Sean McDermott, I figured that he would know the difference between 9 and 11 if you know you know if you know you know and then the bills to all their credit Josh Allen putting the team on his back once again because this is indelibly
Starting point is 00:03:41 an MVP performance from this guy. Drives him down the field. They get to the one-yard line. I think it was because of a PI. I forget. But either way, they have first and goal at the one-yard line just over a minute to go in all three timeouts. Hmm.
Starting point is 00:04:00 What do we do here? Do we A, pass? Do we B, pass? Do we be pass? Do we see run to the outside or D just run a QB sneak up the middle and burn 10 seconds off the clock? Sean McDermott chose D and burn 10 seconds off the clock and use the timeout. Like, what the fuck are we doing? Like, what? He literally did a reverse Eberfluss. Jesus Christ. Like, fuck are we doing? He literally did a reverse Iberflues. Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 00:04:28 Like, what are we doing? Why are you... And Tom Brady immediately ripped the idea in half as well. As soon as the play ended, Tom Brady, who was losing his voice over this game, immediately ripped into Sean McDermott at how much of a dumbass he was for running a quarterback sneak with over a minute to go when you have all three of your timeouts.
Starting point is 00:04:54 Like, you need all three of those timeouts. Brother, my brother in Christ, you need those three timeouts. What are we doing here? Like, I don't get it. I just don't get it. But that's Sean McDermott. That is Sean McDermott for you. He's the same guy that ran a fake punt with DeMar Hamlin last year
Starting point is 00:05:15 in a Disney Channel movie-style fashion. And how'd that end up? Terribly. Mm-hmm. And have that end up. Terribly. But the Rams keeping their, the big storylines though, I just wanted to get that ran out of the way. The big storylines from this game, the Rams keeping their season alive in what is a very weird NFC West and the billsills. Josh Allen, his MVP odds rising even with loss.
Starting point is 00:05:50 I mean, for good reason. I mean, yeah, he had six total touchdowns. Six total touchdowns in 400 yards to himself passing and rushing. Yeah. yards to himself passing and rushing yeah Josh Allen literally did a double hat trick three passing touchdowns and three rushing touchdowns I couldn't even tell the last time done maybe like Michael Vick or something I don't know I don't even know if Michael Vick's ever even had three rushing touchdowns maybe he had three passing touch three passing touchdowns I don't know if Michael Vick ever even had three rushing touchdowns. Maybe he had three passing touchdowns. I don't know if he had three rushing touchdowns.
Starting point is 00:06:28 Or, I don't know, maybe him or Cam Newton or some mobile dude with a good arm. Lamar. I'm pretty sure Josh Allen is the first. Oh, yeah. Well, hey, more power to him, I guess. Let me check that real quick, though. Continue. While we're checking that, don't let the Bills record fool you. I have officially been vindicated by my stance on Sean McDermott after last game. I said last season, and I even said this offseason, Sean McDermott is not a
Starting point is 00:07:09 serious head coach. He just continues to waste Josh Allen. And you know what the worst part is? Look at their record. They're not going to fire him fire him honestly let's just say somehow the worst comes to worst for buffalo and they go one and done in the playoffs i still doubt they fire mcdermott although i did say this offseason that if buffalo makes the playoffs and they go one and done mcdermott should be fired but they probably won't. They'll just be like, oh my god, look at his record. Like, wow, you play in one of the weakest divisions. Yeah, I should hope you have a good record. And I don't care if their schedules are like, what did you do? Nine players on the field. Nine. Look, forget too many men on the field you know that happens from time to time but very rarely do we see too few like what was your angle there it was right after right after
Starting point is 00:08:15 a timeout too right after a time yeah and that's even worse right after a timeout you know a time where you should have your stuff together so what what was the plan? I very much need to know what the plan was. And oh my God, talk about team cohesion. And by the way, for those of you who don't know at home, the 9-11 thing we alluded to was Sean McDermott, weirdo that he is, literally used 9-11 as an analogy for team cohesion. To expand on that, it was the terrorists of 9-11. Yes, the terrorists. Not the rescue effort, the terrorists. He said, oh, that's team cohesion, which he used as a thing. So we weren't even making any kind of offensive joke like that.
Starting point is 00:09:07 This literally came from Sean McDermott himself. Now that in and of itself, if you ask me, is a red flag. But oh my God, I can't get over that nine men on the field. And once again, it gets worse. You wasted a timeout, gave the ball back to the Rams, and they were just able to sit on the ball and run the clock out because, you know, you're down one timeout. And Chris mentioned this, but if you look at the team stats,
Starting point is 00:09:37 once again, dominated in the time possession. A 17-minute difference. I'm sorry, aren't the Bills supposed to be, isn't their identity like this gritty, defensive, punch-you-in-the-mouth team? Well, their offense was doing that. Their defense sort of just laid down and died. That's one thing I do want to get at
Starting point is 00:09:59 because there was one point in the game where I was like, what's the stats here on the pressure and i saw it and i was like no sacks for josh allen okay makes sense the line isn't great defense just isn't great for the rams and then i look at it for the rams no sacks for matthew stafford what this is a exactly the lines for the. They literally could not get off the field. No. They couldn't. The Bills only pressured him a handful of times.
Starting point is 00:10:29 He had a clean pocket like 9 out of 10 times. Wasn't even sacked once. They went 11 for 15 on third down and 1 of 1 on fourth down. And they ran 72 plays to the Bills 54 28 first downs the bills 25 this is something that i mentioned last week about a different team i can't remember which one i'm sure it'll come to me probably not but a very underrated facet of the nfl for teams is your ability to just sit on the ball. There are times where you just have to possess, and the Bills' defense could not get off the field. And I can already hear the Bills' faithful from on high saying, oh my God, but the offseason, we lost a lot of people. It's like, shut up.
Starting point is 00:11:23 You were literally saying throughout the first half of this season um we don't need them because mcdermott's a good coach we can get along without it yeah uh-huh now look what's happening and now you're trying to have your cake and eat it too well guess what i'm not adam i don't believe two things can be true at once that's not that's not a slight of Adam. That's just something that he says a lot on the show. No, I guess, well, I'm not him. I don't think two things, especially two opposites, can be true at once.
Starting point is 00:11:54 So, Bills fans, I say unto you, which is it? Did you not need them and you can put in anyone and be good? Or is it not McDermott's fault that the defense is undermanned? Like, both can't be true. Like, good Lord. And this is the team that's supposed to beat Kansas City. Just, I don't know. There's one thing I'll say.
Starting point is 00:12:16 One nice thing. They needed this loss. Nice humbling loss. Huh? Humbling loss. Yeah. I know it's weird to say a team needs to lose, but this is a loss that keeps you grounded. You got to have something, especially one as painful as this seared into your mind for playoff time. So you know what not to do, you know what to avoid. And most importantly, you don't get high on your own supply. However, a humbling loss can have the opposite effect,
Starting point is 00:12:47 where you get down on yourself and you just kind of curl up into a ball. I remember it was the year was 2015. The Patriots were like 8-0 or whatever. They got handed their first loss and the play calling got really conservative. They curl up into a ball they started taking less chances you don't want to do that you can't get down on yourself so these so-called like Chris mentioned humbling losses can sometimes have the opposite effect and you got to be wary of that then again the 2015 Patriots might not be the best example because they were like they were just
Starting point is 00:13:22 probably the most injured team in the league too but that doesn't matter uh but for buffalo don't get down on yourself but maybe get off your high horse a bit you know there's a happy medium yeah i think we talked this one pretty well at this point i mean we got through everything we need to get to but but just to confirm about the Josh Allen stat, he is the first quarterback or just first player ever with three passing touchdowns and three rushing touchdowns. So Cam Nguyen never did it. Mike Vick never did it.
Starting point is 00:13:57 Josh Allen stands alone and is MVP-odd. That's the worst part. Yeah, that's the worst part. And a loss. Yeah. Josh Allen's MVP odds are now at minus 400. He is the favorite. Minus 400. That's insane.
Starting point is 00:14:16 But one more last thing to touch on, especially for the Rams. This goes to show the Rams offense is going to fucking tear you to shreds, but it's defense, man. If you can find a way to keep scoring late against that defense or at least get a couple stops, then you're going to find a way to come back against the Rams, but by God, you better not let yourself get into too big of a hole. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:49 I think that's a good way to wrap it up. We're going to take a quick break. When we come back, we're going to get into another Chiefs win. I don't know how they keep doing it, but they just keep finding ways to pull wins out of their ass. And I'm sick of it. We'll be back after the break. It may not have always showed it in the stat sheet, but you can see him making throws when he needs to make the throws.
Starting point is 00:15:12 Back-to-back games where he has three touchdowns. Someone's gotta get that six or seven spot. He's an elite wide receiver as a rookie. Truly a lose-lose scenario for both sides. This is the Pulverous Podcast. Chris Kostich, CJ Medeiros. Move on to our next game,
Starting point is 00:15:32 the second game we're going to be talking about today, the Chiefs beating the Chargers on a last-second doink. Oh, my God. Just the entire season we were just talking about, Oh, my God. Just. The entire season we're just talking about the main storyline is how do the Chiefs keep getting away with it versus the Ravens? It's a freaking toenail of Isaiah. Likely that's out of bounds. The Bengals, a phantom P.I.
Starting point is 00:16:03 Call the Falcons, a phantom no call on a pi chargers they barely beat saints they did their worst against them hold on hold on hold on hold on now i'm sorry what did i say last episode you have it's not enough to bring your a game against kansas city you need to bring your a plus game you can't play sloppy against them and i kept saying this if it's at any point a one score game kansas city's going to win and i said too oh you got the like i mean i know student forces beyond your control and i said last week oh you got the game winning touchdown tough luck the flag's coming out oh you stopped them to win the game on fourth down nope flag i can't i keep saying this like you know like for example
Starting point is 00:16:53 on the chiefs you know game winning drive they missed a block in the back they missed two holding calls they missed a tripping call and i remember remember like Jim Harbaugh's going ballistic on the sideline saying their left tackle, I mean, no, their right tackle, Jawan Taylor, literally on every play of the Chiefs final drive jumped, literally every play they could have given him a false start. They just don't. Look, we say it all the time. You can't leave the game in the hands of the refs. Against Kansas City, you are not going to get those calls. You have to play around it. And these teams, I fear, and look, I'm not taking anything away from Kansas City. It's a great system. Mahomes has thrived under Andy Reid, it's clear. And especially this year, this is not a shot at
Starting point is 00:17:45 Mahomes. I'm not insinuating Mahomes is a system quarterback, but let's tell the truth. He's having a down year and Reid has been able to elevate Mahomes' play. Steve Spagnuolo, though he's a little overrated, has been able to keep the defense going strong. But the thing is for these teams, they're too content. I'm sorry. They're too content with complaining. And I, and I keep saying,
Starting point is 00:18:16 you are not going to get those calls against Kansas city. Whenever you stop them, you have to expect the flag to come out. Like that's just how it is and i can already hear the chiefs fans you know clutching their pearls saying um um good teams will always find a way to win as they sweat soy but no i'm sorry like that's just the truth and there are numbers that prove that also another thing that they don't want to talk about, and a stat, like I said, that can prove my point, is that since he's been in the league, Mahomes has like the most interceptions overturned on penalties. That in and of itself is a slam dunk that I'm right.
Starting point is 00:18:57 But I digress. But my point is you can't complain. Complaining does nothing. I'm so tired of them hearing saying, okay, oh my God, the refs are helping them. Yes, they are. It's a well-established fact. What are you going to do about it? How are you going to rise above? And I keep saying this too. I know they have a good defense, but you've got to make it a two-score game. Because when it's a two-score game, like we saw in Buffalo, they can't play from behind they tried and they
Starting point is 00:19:25 failed because when mahomes had to play hero ball he came up short yeah that's my right i love it when people try to say that the patriots had the refs in their back pocket but like it was never as a pats fan i can assure you we got got away with some stuff, but I cannot remember it ever being this bad. Hell, I know Chiefs fans that have outright said it was never this bad with New England, and even they know it, too. Like my cousin at Thanksgiving last year, we were watching, I forget if we were watching a Chiefs game. No, they didn't play on Thanksgiving last year. Now I think of it might've been on black Friday, but, um,
Starting point is 00:20:07 cause they were, I'm getting my games mixed up now, but anyways, he was asking me if, uh, if I thought that, uh, Patrick Mahomes would be just as worse in terms of getting calls as Tom Brady
Starting point is 00:20:22 or like the chief says a whole would be just as bad at paying calls as the Patriots. And I was like, I feel like that the Patriots really did not get that many calls as you'd think that they might have. If you can name me like more than three, then we can have a discussion. But there's literally like you, like for the Chiefs, there's like a whole highlight reel of just missed calls at this point or calls missed calls no calls that go the chiefs way that end up winning it for them and in this case on sunday night they get themselves in a field goal range and they still
Starting point is 00:21:01 almost lose and they get it on a freaking doinking in it it's just ridiculous like that was this past week black friday it was a botched snap the panthers they almost blew a lead to bryce young and the panthers the broncos game it came down to a block field goal that they had to bumfuck the o-line the box Bucs, they beat an OT, and that was a team that was beat and battered like a motherfucker. I don't know. I don't know what to say about this Chiefs team anymore because I think that in the grand scheme of things, yeah,
Starting point is 00:21:40 people are right. Good teams find a way to win in close games. But at the same time too, it's just like, you, there's obviously something going on and I'm not going to say the league is rigged, but Jesus Christ,
Starting point is 00:21:57 the cheese, let's just say they're doing a bad job at convincing us. It's not. Yeah. It's just insane. It's just insane it's just insane um like like bill belichick says that this game the game of football is played in three quarters you got the first quarter the second quarter in the third quarter which is all just prep work the fourth quarter is just straight
Starting point is 00:22:21 situational football and yeah the chiefs might be great it's straight situational football. And yeah, the Chiefs might be great at just situational football, but God damn, dude. The first three quarters up until the fourth quarter, I will never be convinced that the Chiefs are any good in the first three quarters. They will only ever be good in the fourth quarter, if that, the fourth quarter. Fair. Fair, but although
Starting point is 00:22:51 it sucks, it sucks, but just from a game standpoint, we knew this wasn't going to be the Chargers' year. It's just I can't help but feel like you know if they this would they probably would have won obviously if they have more weapons and uh turns out our prediction came true lab mcconkey rookie standout did not play and uh yeah you know
Starting point is 00:23:17 that's just injuries happen uh you know stop me if you've heard this one before, kids. J.K. Dobbins is hurt again. And yeah, Justin Herbert, you know, 21 of 30, 213 yards, one touchdown. I mean, look, the Chiefs defense is good, but the Chargers also have nothing. Hopefully they can get them some weapons this offseason. I don't know. The Chargers are literally a wide receiver one away from being a very good team. I think they're already a good team. They're going to be a playoff contender.
Starting point is 00:23:50 But until they get themselves a wide receiver one, they're not making a deep run into the playoffs. No. We always keep saying how the elite quarterback and an elite line are more important than an elite receiver but how many teams win a super bowl without like a bona fide wide receiver one not i mean yeah i mean to like to adam's point like adam makes the point of like you don't need a wider like look at the chiefs they had fucking Cadareous Tony, but like the chiefs are like one in a million. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:28 But they had Travis Kelsey and he definitely counts as a, as a receiver. Cause he is one. He doesn't, his route running is mid. He doesn't block his football IQ. And so, so he can run and catch and that's all you need him for.
Starting point is 00:24:40 That's what they're supposed to do. He's not really a tight end. He's a wide receiver. Yeah. Like do you look at the teams prior? Like, Brady had Mike Evans and Chris Godwin. Even Mahomes had Tyree Kill. Brady had Gronk and Edelman in most points, along with Brandon Cooks.
Starting point is 00:25:00 The Ravens in their Super Bowl run had Jacoby Jones and Anquan Bolden. And give me the tight end name. Give me the tight end name. I'm blanking on it right now. For the Ravens? Yeah, back in 2012. It was like – Wait, Owen Daniels, right?
Starting point is 00:25:21 Yeah, Owen Daniels, something like that. Yeah, because then he went to Denver and stuff. Yeah. Denver, Demaryius Thomas. Denver had Demaryius Thomas. Seahawks. Doug Baldwin. Yeah, Doug Baldwin.
Starting point is 00:25:38 Doug Baldwin. Hey, come on. Don't disrespect now. Yeah, I'm not disrespecting. I'm just trying to remember. 2009, the Saints had Marquise Colston. Underrated. Underrated.
Starting point is 00:25:48 Very underrated receiver. Doesn't get talked about enough. But every single Super Bowl winning team, besides last year's, well, besides Travis Kelton. Come on. Every single team has some sort of competent wide receiver one or wide receiver two. It is.
Starting point is 00:26:06 It's just how it is like you. And that's, that's the long and short of it. Every single team needs a, needs a full factory worker to, to get the job done. Chargers. Chargers basically have everything right now.
Starting point is 00:26:21 They have the old line. They have the running backs. They have a great defense. They just need someone other than Quentin Johnston to catch the football. I think that they got a good great receiver in Ladd-McCaulkey. Josh Palmer is going to make for a good wide receiver three once they can get a wide receiver one or a wide receiver two and just make Ladd-McCaulkey the wide receiver one and just have go two wide receiver tw and just make Ladd-McCaulkey the wide receiver one and just have go two wide
Starting point is 00:26:45 receiver twos the entire season. I mean, one of them would have to develop, though. I mean, they're not really going to be in a place, I think, unless they trade up or they can draft one of the elite ones. I don't know. Maybe Egbuka or Bond can fall to them. That's what I would
Starting point is 00:27:02 think. Yeah. I feel like that this draft class has some good... Oh, didn't mean to do that. This wide receiver class, or this draft class, I feel like has some good skill players in it that they'll be able to find a way, but
Starting point is 00:27:17 it's also not cleanest drafts, but that's also just... Not a good draft at all, but we'll get that a few months from now. Yeah, but I think one more thing I want to touch on is on Friday we were talking
Starting point is 00:27:34 about if the Chargers wanted to have any sort of confidence or anything like that to get themselves somewhat of a playoff run, even one playoff win. This was going to be the game, but you lose this way. Granted, you had some injuries, but it's just not the best in terms of confidence, I feel like. Chiefs outlook, they got the Browns next week.
Starting point is 00:28:01 Texans, Steelers, Broncos. I say they lose maybe two games there yeah it's possible they're at least probably get one more loss and look you know they did have a really soft schedule coming into this year but we already knew that i mean yeah honestly i feel like i'm one of the few that says i think that you can't play the soft schedule card for any good team now because and on a side note i've said this many times and if you're a veteran show watcher you already know the way the nfl does strength of schedule is like earth shatteringly stupid yeah but whatever for the charges though they've now lost two of their last three they got bucks Bucs next week, Broncos week after, then the Pats and the Raiders.
Starting point is 00:28:47 So pretty clean last two games of the season, but the next two weeks are really going to shape up what their playoff picture could potentially look like. But, I mean, even this Raiders game for the last week of the season could be a little sketchy just because it's a divisional game yeah you know the Raiders are going to be looking to play spoiler which yeah I don't know it's playing spoilers never something I understood it's like you're if you win you quite literally only hurt yourself roll over and die I know because and I know they're playing for contracts and we have a team as bad as the Raiders. They're not really a team.
Starting point is 00:29:25 They're just a bunch of rogue agents looking for their next deal. But still, like you're only hurting yourself. I think the safe thing to say about the Raiders is they haven't quit yet. I think that's like they haven't quit on their coach. Yes, they have. I think that's like the better way to describe the raiders there there's no way that they keep antonio pierce after this literally name dropping players to the media is like a one-way ticket to the unemployment line yeah i don't know i'm still
Starting point is 00:30:01 so 50 50 on that but that's for another time. Yeah, all fun and games until Max Crosby demands a trade. He came close once, but... We can talk about it in Week 18 when we are right around the corner from Black Monday. All right, we're going to move on. When we come back, we're going to talk about some of the eliminated competition for the NFL right now. They are currently 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 teams now eliminated from playoff contention.
Starting point is 00:30:31 We're going to talk about them when we come back on the other side of this break. It may not have always showed it in the stat sheet, but you can see him making throws when he needs to make the throws. Back-to-back games where he has three touchdowns. Someone's got to get that 6 or 7 spot. He's an elite wide receiver as a rookie. Truly a lose-lose scenario for both sides. Welcome back to the Pumbaa Whiskey Podcast by Power 88 Dean Radio
Starting point is 00:30:57 and Secret Weapon Consulting. I'm Chris Kostich. He's CJ Medeiros. So we're getting to that point of the NFL season. We're all done with the bi-weeks fantasy football playoffs are starting playoffs scenarios are starting to form. You're starting to get a little bit of a cookie cutter look of what the NFL playoffs is going to look like.
Starting point is 00:31:22 Along with that is, um, playoffs is going to look like along with that is some official ends to any sort of playoff hopes for these teams even though i mean they probably didn't have any playoff hopes prior to week 10 anyways uh but right now jets pats browns jaguars titiders, and Giants all eliminated from playoff contention right now as we head into week 15 this coming week. The Jets, probably the – I mean, look, the Pats, Browns, Jaguars, Titans, Raiders, and Giants, there was no way in hell they were going to do anything with the season that they had in front of them. Titans, maybe. Maybe the Titans.
Starting point is 00:32:04 I don't know. There's, maybe. Maybe the Titans. I don't know. There's some considerable hype around the Titans. And then, you know, the Jaguars gave Lawrence a huge deal. So there was some hope for them, I'd say. Yeah. No, 100%. Like, somewhat the Jags. But I think the Titans, like, besides the Jets,
Starting point is 00:32:20 the Titans had a lot of hype around them. Like, Will Levis going into his second year. The defense was getting defense was loading up. The offense was still a little shaky, but the biggest thing for the offense was that they had Tony Pollard as their running back, along with Tajay Spears as the number two. But especially with the Will Levis injury, it never really shaped up to what it could have been. The Jaguars, they're just a fucking mess. The Browns, they had Deshaun Watson,
Starting point is 00:32:51 and it's crazy to say that they have more faith in Jameis. There's life with Jameis Winston at quarterback than what they had before. Allegations and drama aside, it's crazy to think that well yeah i mean i don't know jamis has quite literally played better you literally had more yards in a snow game than deshaun watson did in any other game. Like, there was some stat that I saw, and I think he even said this on the show, but I don't even know if Watson even, yeah, here, I'm looking at it right now.
Starting point is 00:33:36 Deshaun Watson didn't even throw for over 200 yards in a singular game. So, yeah. It's terrible. like you said, allegations and all that aside, I mean, come on. Like, yeah. Winston has played infinitely better. Yeah. Um, so yeah, it'll be interesting to see what the Browns end up doing I'd love to see Jameis get at least one more year Maybe the Browns draft a quarterback And Jameis is like
Starting point is 00:34:11 Just leading a puppy into the light And see what happens The Raiders Had some good components Not a lot Not many The Raiders had some good components. Not a lot. Not many. They were never going to be a playoff contender.
Starting point is 00:34:41 But it certainly didn't help that their quarterbacks of choice was Gardner Minshew and Aiden O'Connell. And right now, along with that Desmond Ritter, and then one other guy that I can't think of his name, especially now that Minshew's out for the year and Aiden O'Connell might be out this week, maybe more, but it does sound like he might be getting, that he should be good to go for this week. Lord knows. The Giants.
Starting point is 00:35:07 The Giants The Giants man It sucks that Like we've been talking about this all year It sucks that Brian Dable is Might get the can come Black Monday He's a great coach The whole thing with Daniel Jones sucks Cause like You know that the whole locker room was behind
Starting point is 00:35:26 Daniel Jones Not even for his play But just like How he was in the locker room Daniel Jones was a leader Really good guy And Everyone in that locker room knew
Starting point is 00:35:42 He was trying his damn best He knew that he isn't the guy, but by God, he tried his best. And that's all you can ask for of a teammate, I guess, at that point. Yeah. Real quick, the Jets. I wanted to save the Jets for last. I wanted to save the Jets for last. I wanted to save the Jets for last. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:36:06 Okay. Continue. Well, I wanted to have you put your opinion real quick. All right, fair. So the Patriots. Chris and I were talking before the show, and there's an old saying. Yeah, there is news to this now as well, like new news from earlier. Like right now?
Starting point is 00:36:30 No, no, I'm saying from what we were talking about. Oh. Yeah, there's an old saying. You are what your record says you are. I don't believe it because strictly on paper, New England is the worst team in the league by a country mile. Just a complete void of talent. No splash players, no big names, no blue chip guys. The only player on your team or on their team that is worth even half of a damn is christian gonzalez and to his fair statistically and just by how he's played he's a top 10 quarter in the
Starting point is 00:37:16 league this kid as as the children say is an absolute baller that's what they say and i hate that i said that ew but whatever Maybe even top five, though. Maybe even top five. Yeah. SOG football, one of the premier rankers of the NFL world, has Gonzalez as the fifth best quarterback in the league. It's earned. It's totally earned.
Starting point is 00:37:36 I think that he's made a case to be just the top cornerback, period. Maybe not. Yeah, there's been some. We're not talking about prime champ bailey here but yeah i mean we'll see we'll see but uh but yeah uh i don't know where you go i mean new england you're gonna have i mean look they have the most cap space in the league also by a country mile. So they need to do something. It's just, they're just not an attractive place and you're gonna have to overpay people to come,
Starting point is 00:38:12 but don't go bargain hunting. You need, and I know we said this before, New England doesn't value what we call splash players. They never have, but eventually I would think something has to change. The Browns. Oh my my god they're just the browns are a team okay let's just say they're one of the teams of all time we love jamis but that entire team is just jamis and the power of friendship
Starting point is 00:38:39 they seem to be stuck in limbo right now because this is a bad QB class. By the way, their cap situation is, like, not good at all. If I recall correctly, they have the second fewest cap space in the league. They're, like, negative, I believe. Chris, can you confirm or deny? I can't confirm nor deny, but I can look it up real quick. I mean, I can do it too but well i want you to keep talking so yeah i can multitask but yeah i got it right now hold on ah let's hear
Starting point is 00:39:13 are you on spot track or over the cap i'm just i'm looking at spot track right now cleveland ready for this gang we'll have negative 18 million this offseason and that's kind of that's like the worst position you can absolutely be in as a team you are bad but you're also in cap hell so you can't fix it honestly it's a good thing you got it because i accidentally looked up the giants because for some reason I thought we were talking about the Giants. Not yet, not yet. Not yet. But yeah, so the Browns, you have that awful Watson contract you have to deal with.
Starting point is 00:39:52 It's just there's no winning, and you're going to be a cellar dweller for a bit. And I don't want to sound an alarmist, but a small part of me wouldn't be shocked if some of their bigger names, like perhaps Miles Garrett, like eventually demand a trade because he Miles Garrett is on the fast track
Starting point is 00:40:10 to the Hall of Fame and he does not want to probably follow in the footsteps of Joe Thomas another Browns legend the Jags oh my Trevor Lawrence that's all just The Jags. Oh, Mike. Trevor Lawrence, that's all just...
Starting point is 00:40:29 He's such an anomaly. Be good or suck. Don't be mid. Come on now. Yeah. And I also want to preface as well, like Tony Khan, the owner of the Jags, saying that this is the best roster that Jags have come up with.
Starting point is 00:40:48 And it's like, Tony, this is also the same guy that currently runs a wrestling promotion. His name's Tony, I thought his name was like Shahad. I think there's two Khans, and there's a, I'm going to double check it real quick. But yeah. What were you saying? Yeah, Shahid Khan. But I'm pretty sure that... I'm pretty sure...
Starting point is 00:41:14 Yeah, his son is Tony Khan. Tony Khan also has a lot to do with football operations. Tony Khan also runs the wrestling promotion called AEW. And that... And I don't really follow a lot of wrestling But I have some buddies that do So I tend to get some stuff in the timeline about it That I don't really want to see But I see it anyways And all I see is just Tony Khan running a terrible operation over there
Starting point is 00:41:40 So do that with what you will if you can't you can't even run a wrestling promotion so i'm gonna assume that there's no way in hell you can run a football team unlikely no but uh that's i just wanted to throw that little tidbit out there no and you have every right to do so because you gotta know who you're dealing with the jags they're another team that i think deluded themselves thinking they had playoff hopes by giving Lawrence a huge deal. But we can see how well that worked, can't we, kids? The Titans. What a crash and burn that was.
Starting point is 00:42:20 They had so much hype. And I actually want to bring up something that Adam said at the beginning of the year. He said, we're going to find out real fast if this kid can play or not. Will Levis. He cannot play. And then there's the Raiders.
Starting point is 00:42:38 It was weird. They were like the team of good vibes. I mean, when I think of empty platitudes, some might say they were the team of joy if you know you know but uh well because you know you had uh antonio pierce there was all grit but but we're like a family we we love hard we play hard like yeah and then not even four weeks into the year and he's out there name dropping players to the media which that that puts you on the fast track to getting fired and i fully expect him to get fired because i mean like i said the only player on your
Starting point is 00:43:20 team that's like elite is probably uh crosby. And I said this to Chris, like, I can see in the near future Crosby requesting a trade. So then there's the Giants. Dable, I've said it before. I'll say it again. I'll keep it brief because Chris is going to roll his eyes because he hears me say it so often. Dable should not be fired.
Starting point is 00:43:42 The GM, Joe Shane, should be fired be fired letting saquon walk and i know you don't pay running backs but if you were looking me in the face and if you could do that and defend the decision to pay daniel jones over saquon barkley who i don't think has ever hit 3 500 career yards or in a season or 30 passing touchdowns in a season, say, oh, yeah, give him all the figgy pudding. No, no, that's stupid. You're stupid, and you should never watch football. And now the Jets.
Starting point is 00:44:14 Chris? Where to even start for the Jets, man? They're the only team that had, like, legitimate hope. Yeah. It's crazy to even think about that but yeah to your point about daniel jones though has never hit 3 500 yards his only time the only times he hit 3 000 were his first year where he got 3027 and the playoff year where he got thirty two hundred yards i just wanted to uh point that out real quick before we did a nose dive into the jets but what a mess what a mess it like you fire robert salah you fire the gm who else you're gonna going to fire Like you can't
Starting point is 00:45:06 Fire anyone else you can't Like after the Pats game Matt Ryan said it best Like you can't Make any other moves at this point This is the team that you have this is what you're working with The defense Can't tackle to save their life The offense just day in and day out is lifeless
Starting point is 00:45:23 Aaron Aaron Rodgers Is not good anymore. Devontae Adams. I don't really know what to say about Devontae Adams because I think everyone can agree like a receiver is only is only as good as their quarterback most times. Like, and I think that's what we have here with Devontae Adams. And that's why his numbers with the Raiders were down, and they're still down here with the Jets. It's because he hasn't had a good quarterback throwing him the ball,
Starting point is 00:45:59 along with a few injuries here and there. But he had Jimmy G throwing him the ball. He had Gardner Minshew throwing him the ball. Aiden O'Connell jimmy g throwing him the ball he had garderman shoot throwing him the ball aiden o'connell was going to start throwing the ball if he stick stuck around long enough prior to getting traded so i can't really give a read about davante adams yet just everyone on the jets is overrated and this is just the same jets team that we've been living with for the last 24 years or in this case if you a Jets fan for all of your life, just continuous disappointment. I think the best way to really wrap up the Jets on my end is that I came across a TikTok of a Jets fan ranking Jets wins from the last 15 years. And every single game that he talked about was later followed by a rant about how they blew it the next week or the week.
Starting point is 00:46:55 And like they get this glimmer of hope and then it just gets shot in the freaking face right afterwards. True. True. Like they have this glimmer of hope with Aaron Rodgers, especially last year, and he gets hurt three plays in. I mean, Zach Wilson led them to a better record than what they have now. Sam Darnold even had a better record than Rodgers does.
Starting point is 00:47:23 And that was debatably a worse roster. Not debatably. It was like they had Robbie Anderson as their top receiver. Like when, when you're, when you're leading receiver, since I think when you're leading receiver for the last 10 years is Robbie Anderson,
Starting point is 00:47:43 you have a problem. Oh my goodness. Can you believe that Robbie Anderson is current is the chosen Anderson. Hey, chosen Anderson is the leading receiver for the jets of the last 10 years. Not like Decker or not Decker, not Garrett Wilson, not Brandoncker or not Decker not Garrett Wilson not Brandon Marshall you know what maybe Quincy Inunua would have been a fun little one for the kids to hear about you know like when
Starting point is 00:48:12 you're old and like hey did you ever hear about that one Quincy Inunua Linsanity run back in like you know yeah but well yeah so the jets you know the gm joe douglas is gone head coach robert sala is gone everyone's like oh what's happening i feel like not enough people are pointing finger at rogers the delusional rogers fans are poisoning the minds of society yet again. So he's like, Rogers isn't a coach killer. To which I say, brother man, are you blind? Yes, he is. He just did. We watched it happen.
Starting point is 00:48:56 And I keep saying this. Remember Air Rogers said, oh, I don't know anything about Joe Douglas getting fired or Robert Sala. It was so shocking to me. This is literally something like a lawyer tells you to rehearse in court when you know you're guilty. That's how he talks. And when are we going to actually blame Aaron Rodgers for this? Because I'm'm gonna say it right now aaron rogers is a child he is a child he is incapable of accepting responsibility and even though he is the problem and the worst part is the diva-ness is now showing through more because here's what the people won't tell you but i will because you can trust me unlike the mainstream football folk you know like like the steven a's of the world and uh kurt warner i actually care about you and i care enough to tell you the truth
Starting point is 00:49:55 it was always there no one else saw it i saw it but it was always there, right? But now, now he's not good. Now he's not MVP candidate. Now, not only has Father Time caught up to Rodgers, but Father Time has also stuffed Aaron Rodgers in a sack and tossed him into a frozen lake. Now that he's old and not good, there is nothing to distract us from the fact that he is the football version of cancer. And what do you do with cancer, boys and girls?
Starting point is 00:50:35 You cut it out. And that's what they have to do. I don't care how much it hurts. He only has one year left on his deal. You say to Rodgers, be gone. He says, oh, I just renovated my house in New Jersey. Oh, I might. You really think that matters to a guy like Rodgers?
Starting point is 00:50:51 He's insane. Good riddance, I say. And I mean, he's a guy who literally takes his appearances on Pat McAfee more seriously than he does football. And yeah, he's got to go. And by the way, there was a report. It was posted by JPA Football on Instagram where, get this. This is per Ian Rappaport.
Starting point is 00:51:18 The New York Jets are planning on drafting a quarterback in the first round this offseason, regardless of if Rodgers is on the roster or not. Once again, this is Prairie and Rappaport on JPA. So there's that. And I could wail on Rodgers all day, but shout out to the rest of the team. Oh, my God. Holy crap.
Starting point is 00:51:51 They've just regressed.inn and williams looks terrible teams are now going out of their way to pick on sauce gardner he can't tackle anymore and his and his and his coverage skills are just god-awful teams are targeting him. Garrett Wilson is frustrated. Devontae Adams has been more or less a flop. Brees Hall is running like he's stuck in a pool of honey. I don't know what it is. That team, any chance they had is dead. Remember how they said, oh we have like a sneaky good roster with rogers if he's even a game manager we're contenders well he's not and it'd be one thing if the rest of the team could drag him along but the rest of the team regressed with him i don't know what the answer is but booting rogers i think is a good start what do you think chris no i and i think that it's crazy that rogers thinks that he's going to come back to the jets when i think the jets are pretty set in stone and not bringing
Starting point is 00:52:53 him back at least that's what it feels like in the reports but i don't know well i guess we'll find out come next year on what's going to happen for i I mean, this could even be a situation where it ends up being like a Russell Wilson thing where he gets forced out no matter what. Hmm. Which is what happened last year or back in March with the Broncos. True. Huh? But yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:26 I don't know. It's just... I'm so tired of people saying Rodgers is not the problem. Pat McAfee's like, oh, Aaron Rodgers, man.
Starting point is 00:53:40 He's such a good guy. I wonder if Rodgers wasn't on the show. Ifgers wasn't on the show. Like if he wasn't on the show, what would McPhee really think of him? That's the real question. Yeah. Well, he's also got his buddy AJ Hawk there as well. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:56 But all the teams that we just named are in the top 10 in the draft right now or projected top 10 in the upcoming draft. Vegas, number one giants number two pass number three carolina's number four and mathematically somehow not eliminated from the playoffs uh jacksonville five tennessee six the jets seven cleveland eight um and all the raiders and the giants are the only two that are at 2-11. Everyone else is 3-10. And then you have Chicago and New Orleans rounding out the top 10.
Starting point is 00:54:31 And obviously, with there being four weeks left in the season, all that could very well change. But we're going to move on to our Week 14 Top three, bottom three on the other side of the break. This is the Fumble Whiskey podcast. It may not have always showed it in the stat sheet, but you can see him making throws when he needs to make the throws back to back games where he has three touchdowns. Someone's got to get that six or seven spot.
Starting point is 00:54:58 He's an elite wide receiver as a rookie, truly a lose lose scenario for both sides. Welcome back to the F with Whiskey podcast. Chris Kostich, CJ Medeiros. Our final subject that we'll be covering is the Week 14 Top 3, Bottom 3. This was a little bit tougher to decipher who was going to get the Bottom 3 nod.
Starting point is 00:55:21 I felt like there was a lot of good games in terms of competition this week. But starting out first with the top three is potential game of the year, the Bills and the Rams. Could have put the Rams, and honestly, could have even put the Bills despite the losing effort. This game had everything in terms of just, I mean, everything. And then there was just no defense.
Starting point is 00:55:52 But everything I mean in the sense of the offensive firepower. Obviously, we talked about Josh Allen being the first player to have three touchdowns and three rushing touchdowns in a game. First game ever where there was five plus passing touchdowns, five plus rushing touchdowns over 900 yards. And there was one other stat to go along with it, along with no turnovers as well. So we already beat this game to death.
Starting point is 00:56:26 We don't really need to go too, too much and more into it. It definitely deserves to be a top spot. We do this rarely. I remember there was one year, it was like earlier, or one week earlier in the season, where we put Patriots and Dolphins as the worst for a bottom three. So why not have the best with the Bills and Rams?
Starting point is 00:56:48 That's totally I think a great idea. That was Chris's idea, by the way. I enjoy doing that. I feel like that if there's a great game or a bad game, it deserves to get some sort of recognition. Especially in this case.
Starting point is 00:57:03 You aren't going to put the Bills at bottom three, that's for sure. But moving on is, we're going to knock off a top three slot and a bottom three slot since these two teams were in the same game. The Vikings in the top three, the Falcons in the bottom three. Sam Donald probably having his, honestly, probably, not probably, he did have his best game of his career. 22 for 28, 347 yards, five touchdowns. Jordan Addison getting his own hat trick with three receiving touchdowns on eight catches. Justin Jefferson, seven catches, had one less yard than Jordan Addison,
Starting point is 00:57:44 133, 132, Addison to Jefferson, seven catches, had one less yard than Jordan Addison, 133-132, Addison to Jefferson, respectively. And Jed has also had two receiving touchdowns on his own end. Aaron Jones getting out of his little – he had a bad game last week, but he was able to make up for it this week, 13 carries, 73 yards, averaged a little over five per carry, along with a touchdown score. Yeah. And the defense, uh,
Starting point is 00:58:07 the defense got two interceptions as well from Kirk cousins, which leads us to the Falcons being the bottom three. Of course, uh, this was supposed to be the Kirk cousins revenge game, but Kirk cousins has not thrown a touchdown pass in his last four games. That's bad. But how many interceptions has he thrown?
Starting point is 00:58:31 Eight interceptions. Exactly. Last four games, no touchdowns, eight interceptions. And we talked about this last week. You have to put in pennix because I always say there's a difference between winning with your quarterback versus winning because of or winning even in spite of kirk cousins is actively playing you out of games start pennix for the good of the city of atlanta for all the wonderful people that live
Starting point is 00:58:59 there you have to start michael pennix those people have been through enough with kirk cousins he'll worst part the worst part about this too is that they had firm control of the nfc south especially with tampa dealing with injuries like they were beaten and battered and had a little losing streak now tampa's health somewhat healthy again, which involves getting Mike Evans back. And now Tampa Bay has taken full control of the NFC South, where the Falcons have now dropped four straight. And really, they couldn't afford to lose. They can't really afford to lose too many more games because of this, right?
Starting point is 00:59:43 You got the Bucs now back in first place. The Falcons have the tiebreaker because they beat in the Bucs twice this year. All they have to do is finish with the same record as the Bucs. But like. I can't even trust the Falcons to like they got the Raiders on Monday night football coming up next week. I don't know if I could trust them to beat the Raiders next week. I could trust them to beat the Giants. I don't even know if they'll beat the panthers last week this season divisional game honestly probably not i call me insane even though he's unproven i would actually feel better if they put in pennants and i keep saying it but that's just because it's true yeah four game losing streak they've lost five of
Starting point is 01:00:26 their last seven so take that with what you will uh rounding out the top three is the 49ers this is your typical get right game i was wrong of course because i had the bears and was thinking you know what this is going to be the interim head coach bump. But it turned into a get-right game for the Niners. Their playoff hopes are still alive now as they won 38-13. Even with all the injuries that they've had to deal with this year, they're still just barely, barely alive. Brock Purdy had a solid game, 20 for 25, 325 yards
Starting point is 01:01:07 and two tugs. Isaac Gorendo, who is now the bell cow back with CMC and Jordan Mason being out, 15 carries, 78 yards, two touchdowns. Defense did pretty solid in general. They ended up getting, forcing a fumble on Caleb Williams. And that was really their only turnover of this game. Couldn't really get any interceptions on, on Caleb.
Starting point is 01:01:36 And the one turnover that 49ers had was an interception that was thrown by Brandon Allen, the backup for the Niners. So that tells you how this game went for San Fran. You want to add anything to that? Yeah. No, it's just the Falcons. They're an unserious team.
Starting point is 01:02:01 We're on the 49ers now. That's really all I can say about about that and then the niners well i know i was getting there as far as the niners go hey uh didn't garendo get hurt too that's the crazy thing they're gonna be down to like rb4 that's but garendo i don't think it should be too bad also even though the niners, they're losing the drama war. Did you see Debo Samuel said, I'm not playing bad. I'm just not getting targets. I need the ball more or something like that.
Starting point is 01:02:34 And then on X, community notes. Back check, buddy. You lead your team in drops. And I have them on my fantasy team. It's so over yeah i mean to to the niners credit though i mean we're everyone's making comparisons to the 2020 season but the thing with the 2020 season is that they were out of playoff contention by this time whereas the niners are still hanging around they're six six and seven right now. Granted, they're at the bottom of the NFC West,
Starting point is 01:03:08 but they're tied with Arizona and they're two games out from Seattle. So, I mean, anything can happen. They have the Rams next week, Dolphins, Lions, Cardinals. That Lions game is going to be tough, and that's going to be on Monday Night Football as well. So that should be an interesting, interesting watch. Finishing out the bottom three, three we got two teams left uh we're going to touch on the tennessee titans first uh i this is pretty simple uh they lose 10 to 6 to the jaguars you lost 10 to 6 to mac jones
Starting point is 01:03:40 you only put up six points on one of the worst defenses in the league like you could shape it up to this being a divisional game bullshit can happen but like even even when you got two interceptions on Mac Jones you got two interceptions on Mac Jones and neither really, you didn't do anything with either. Like, you got an interception in the first half, and you ended with a three and out. You got an interception on Mack Jones after a 13-play drive that ended with a 13-yard sack or a 12-yard sack. So that's really all they had. That's all they had. a 13-yard sack or a 12-yard sack. That's really all they had.
Starting point is 01:04:29 That's all they had. Will Levis, he didn't throw any picks. That's really the only thing. Tony Pollard rushed for 100 yards. That's really it. That's really it. Other than that, this was just an absolute stinker.
Starting point is 01:04:45 Defense did its job. Defense did its job. That's really it. Other than that, this was just an absolute stinker. Stinker. Defense did its job. Defense did its job. Yeah. I mean, honestly, this is a candidate for, I feel like you could have put the Jags and the Titans there, but it's the fact that Will Levis, technically speaking, played better than Mac Jones and they still lost not
Starting point is 01:05:05 Titans you will take your spot in the bottom three and you will like it yeah honestly to give more of a case to put this entire game as a whole as the bottom three this game was done in like two and a half hours this game started at one o'clock it It got done by three 30. I think every other game was like just barely getting into the fourth quarter by this time, which is just crazy. Moving on to the last team in the bottom three, the Arizona Cardinals, they lose to the Seattle Seahawks 30 to 18 in a game that we somewhat got wrong. Who did you have for this game again?
Starting point is 01:05:48 I had the Seahawks. Okay, so I was wrong about my pick in general. You were right about your pick, but we were wrong about how this game was going to go. We thought that this was going to be more of the same as the first time around, but it was the complete opposite. Uh,
Starting point is 01:06:08 considering that one team put up 30, I mean, just more points all around than the last time around, but, uh, Kyler Murray, two interceptions. It,
Starting point is 01:06:19 this was the Cardinals time to try to get themselves back into striking distance of the division lead? And they didn't even come close. Zach Charbonnet, who was in for Kenneth Walker, who was hurt, rushed 134 yards on you. The Seahawks has a team almost rushed for 200 on you. Gino Smith had a good day. Honestly, like Seahaw ox honorable mention for top three but other than that cardinals really did not help their case for trying to make themselves uh a playoff run here i've said before i'll say it again the nfc west is just not a serious place
Starting point is 01:07:04 i mean the cardinals were literally in first place they got their little they got their fans all 10 of them they got their hopes up and then killed it killed their hopes yeah also they refused to target marvin harrison jr like man is getting open and they just won't throw him the ball yeah like. Like I said, I just saw a tick talk and it was talking about the fancy football bus this year. And it was, one of them was Marvin Harrison. And it was like,
Starting point is 01:07:31 I mean, what? Like. If you do. In the first three rounds, the bats on you, no one should have had him that high. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:42 I mean, the thing with Marvin Harrison is that everyone thought that he was gonna like i think he's still all that a bag of chips but it's just the fact that like he's they're not using him correctly and he's not being used the way that i think most people would have thought no they're really not like i just i don't understand why it's like i know it's not intentional but it feels intentional like you have to be doing this on purpose no team is this stupid and how they use a first overall receiver yeah um some oh pardon me Some honorable mentions for either side. Dolphins with an overtime win against the Jets.
Starting point is 01:08:31 Keeping their playoff hopes alive. Tyree Kilton catches 115 yards and a touchdown. Honorable mention for the bottom three, the Bears. I mean, this game was over by the time the second half came around. It was 24 to nothing. Honorable mention as well for the bottom three of the Giants. Only put up 11 on the Saints. It's, I mean.
Starting point is 01:08:55 And Adam really tried to sell us on Drew Locke. I mean, I like Drew Locke, but he's also. I don't like 11 points. Yeah. I was thinking about the Raiders in this case as well but they're only down by one and they were down by one in the fourth quarter for uh for the bucks kind of storm back or pardon let me fact check that real quick um actually they were they're down 14 to 10 uh in, in the fourth quarter, but it was still a one score game and then it just kind of wasn't.
Starting point is 01:09:28 Yeah. It, Chet, they still made it a one score game going into the final drive for the Bucs as well. 21-13, but the Bucs got a five play ADR drive to, uh, win them the game. So, yeah. Kind of a, kind of a weird game for Tampa, but they got the win out of it. It's been a weird season for Tampa. It's been a weird season for Tampa. It's been a weird season in general.
Starting point is 01:09:49 Yeah. Like, I think this, I mean, this could be a conversation for maybe next week when we get a little closer to playoff time. But this is, this season's pretty wide open. I think this is probably the most wide open it's been since 2017. Yeah, I would think so. I really had to stop and think, but yes. Like I said, this can be a conversation for a little closer to playoff time.
Starting point is 01:10:22 But you look at teams like the Bucs and you're like, all right, well, this was a team that probably could have made another deep playoff run. But I think that there's a good possibility that they get bounced in the first round. Looking at like teams like the Lions who we've everyone's been hammering this to death. They have 13 guys on defense they're on ir the eagles like they're dark horse but they're notorious for starting out slow
Starting point is 01:10:51 so i i don't know if i can trust them to be in a shootout with the lions depending on where it is um like there's no question about the lions offense it's really their defense that's going to be in question the the eagles start out too slow all the time the chiefs are the chiefs the packers jordan love and his interceptions um the steelers like they proven that they can put up 40 plus but that was on a bad defense but their defense has also shown that they can make big plays. The Bills, they have Sean McDermott as their coach. The Chargers, they could make a run, but they also couldn't.
Starting point is 01:11:35 The Commanders are a little weird. They're frisky, might make a run, might not. Same thing with the Broncos. The Ravens, everyone thought that they were going to be – that they were the top Super bowl contenders with the lions but even then like they still don't have a great defense so it's it's pretty wide open this year yeah once again just it's been a weird year everything seems pretty wide open i mean even the wild card teams like the chargers and them could could make some noise you never know yeah maybe not in the nfc though probably yeah there's probably
Starting point is 01:12:13 not in the nfc i think it's pretty top heavy in terms of the nfc and like there's some other playoff teams like the vikings that we didn't mention that you never like you had the feeling that they might crack, but they haven't really shown it all that much yet. Like two, right. Or 11 and two now, 11 and two,
Starting point is 01:12:32 11 and two. And currently on a six game winning streak right now. But the thing is we've, we've seen this movie with the Vikings before. I just, but I mean, maybe if they're not division leaders, it'll be better. I guess. I mean maybe if they're not division leaders it'll be
Starting point is 01:12:45 better I guess I mean they're not even like leading the division I mean granted they're not yeah so yeah yeah so it's gonna be a pretty wild time for football especially with a lot of the playoff outcomes that are gonna be coming up pretty soon, which kind of remind me Ian Rappaport finally put out his week 15 playoff scenarios. So that'll be fun to get into once we get into Friday's episode.
Starting point is 01:13:16 But that is all the scheduled content for us today. CJ, you got anything else you wanted to add before we end the show? No, not really. Word. If you're in fantasy football playoffs like myself good luck pj you in the fancy playoffs yeah i am word all right good luck to you my man you too and god bless everybody in making sure that everyone stays healthy i guess except for if you're eric christensen then I need you to lose to me this week.
Starting point is 01:13:46 Or anyone who plays me. Looking at the... Really anyone. If you play me this week, I hope you don't win. No offense, just business. That prize is money. That'll do it for us tonight.
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