The Fumblerooski Podcast - Jack of All Trades -Ep 442 The Fumblerooski Podcast

Episode Date: April 14, 2026

On today's episode, NFL Draft coverage continues as we look at the best front 7 defenders coming into the draft! Along with this an update on the Vrabel and Russini drama, and the Packers and Eagles a...gree to a trade! Chris Costich, Justin Tucker, and CJ Medeiros talk all this and more!

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Starting point is 00:00:00 On today's episode of the Fumble Ruski podcast, or NFL draft preview. With a week and a half remaining till the NFL draft today, we're going to be talking about pass rushers. All that and more, this is the Fumble Ruski podcast. It may not have always showed it in the stat sheet, but you can see him making throws when he needs to make the throws. Back-to-back games where he has three touchdowns.
Starting point is 00:00:24 Someone's got to get that six or seven spot. He's an elite wide receiver as a rookie. Truly a lose-lose. scenario for both sides. Welcome to the Fumbleriski podcast by Power 18 18 Radio in Secret Weapon Consulting. We got Tuck, we got C.J. We got myself.
Starting point is 00:00:43 Chris, ready to go for you today. How was you guys this weekend? Was it good? Solid weekend? It was a solid weekend. It was decent. I can't complain. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:00:56 Nice. That's good. That's good. I'd have to say the same thing. I honestly, I'm not even going to ask it because you guys definitely don't watch golf. So anyways, I know Rory McElroy or one. Mackleroy. McElroy.
Starting point is 00:01:15 I was really mad that Rory won. I really wanted Justin Rose to win. Saw a meme about it, where it was Josh Shallan with a golf club and said when it's time for Justin Rose to win the Masters. No, it's honestly, it's. It's like at this point, like Justin Rose is now the next guy and like a long line of like guys that have been in the game for a long time that have been right on the cusp of winning it all and just cannot get it done. He's lost like two or three times in a playoff hole in the Masters, including last year. And he had the lead in the Masters going into the back nine on Sunday and sold it. Sold it.
Starting point is 00:02:01 Yeah. Gross. But, hey, Roy, he went back to back. The first person to do it since Tiger. Yeah. Yeah. I.
Starting point is 00:02:10 Let's hope he does inherit Tiger's driving skills, though. Are you talking about on the field or off the field? Oh, I'm talking off. I saw a clip, a TikTok, and it was the Saddam Hussein terrorist meme over Rory McElroy highlights and it was a motherfuckers what or what motherfuckers are hearing when
Starting point is 00:02:37 they're watching Rory McElroy win the master's first second straight year. Where's McElroy from again? Northern Ireland. Ah. Yeah. I think he like low-key is like I could be
Starting point is 00:02:56 incredibly off base but even like though he's from Northern Ireland. like, yeah, you know, technically I'm from the United Kingdom, though. Hmm. No. Like, that whole, like, that whole, yeah. Yeah. He's not an Irishman.
Starting point is 00:03:14 No, I'm kidding. That's just, that's just me being mad. That's me being mad. There's always next year. Yeah. Yeah. There's always next year. There's always next year.
Starting point is 00:03:26 All right. Well, this is a story that's kind of been ongoing. on. This, of course, broke last week, but on Friday night, it was put out that Rucini was going to be put on leave. Her duties have been relieved for the time being. And there was another photo that was released of both Mike Frable and Diana Rucini at a bar in Indianapolis during the NFL Combine. well the reaction from all this is kind of what you would expect to be honest and I guess now I'm going to turn into serious society mode here for a moment because
Starting point is 00:04:14 let's be real you know it when you have a situation like this the everything is going to be more heavily directed toward uh Diana Rusini for this example, right? Because she is a woman in sport, right? Like, woman in sport get criticized or looked down on a lot harder, a lot more than men, of course, because, you know, it's a primarily male-dominated field in terms of just sports in general. Look at us. Us three guys, right, are doing a podcast about football.
Starting point is 00:04:57 So this is no big surprise to me that this weighs heavily on Rusini more than it does Vrable. But at the same time, Mike Vrable is also a head coach. Steinersini is a reporter, two very different jobs where Rusini literally has to be unbiased in her reporting. And we talked about this on Friday's episode as well in terms of. of, you know, Rucini being at the forefront of the A.J. Brown stuff, this and that. Of course, Patriots have been front runners for A.G.R.G.R. for the last, like, what feels like the last year. So, of course, everything's going to be hampered more on Rucini in this case.
Starting point is 00:05:46 Now, at this rate, do I think anything's going to happen to Vrable? No, I don't think anything to happen to Brable at this rate. and to be honest even with everything going on I don't think Robert Kraft is going to want to throw his team into a mess of things after he finally found stability
Starting point is 00:06:14 after what five years we'll call five years of bullshit the end of Belichick one year of Mayo and finally there's stability with Rehabil I feel like he's not going to just throw it away over some cheating. We'll call it an allegation for now.
Starting point is 00:06:33 Yeah. It says not all of the facts are really presented on the table outside of the pictures. So yeah. Oh, emergency vehicles. Who's in trouble? It's not me. That's what's going on, dude.
Starting point is 00:06:51 I have no idea what's going on out there. Hopefully everyone's okay. Good. I hope so too. Yeah. Anyways, thoughts on this recent news. Can't a man just get a drink at a bar in peace without a blast?
Starting point is 00:07:13 Oh, geez. This is unbelievable. This man is clearly not having the best of time. He clearly wanted to have a drink to relax. And then all of a sudden, he was probably trying to have a conversation with a friend. Then this happens? This, oh, man, this is just a bad look. He's probably thinking nothing of it.
Starting point is 00:07:30 He's probably just trying to get a drink and then move on and then Diana shows up. And they're just probably just having a conversation. But now with everything going on, it looks bad. It looks worse. Man, I still don't think it's too much to be, like, I don't want to estimate that there's something going on there. I still want to give him the benefit of the doubt and say he's not doing anything wrong, but you got one more, buddy. You got one more, a miscellaneous photo coming out that puts you in a very bad position.
Starting point is 00:08:10 I can't keep defending you like this. Oh, man. First, they were at a hotel. Now they're at a bar. What's next? The beach? Well, I, what? this is bad.
Starting point is 00:08:26 I understand that they can be friends, and I understand that he might have told her some things, but I hope this isn't cheating. I hope this isn't a fair type situation. Hopefully they're just friends, and this is just one big misunderstanding. But these pictures, they're not making them out to look good right now,
Starting point is 00:08:48 and it's not making Diana look any better. No, not at all. I'll go on to a different topic after I want to let CJ give us a take, but I got some more, I guess, spin zones to throw out there as well. You know what? I have a take that nobody's going to like, but just shut up because it's true. At this point, where we are right now, whether or not, not they actually cheated is unfortunately irrelevant because it's all about the court of public
Starting point is 00:09:34 opinion. And if the public has decided that you've done something, even if you haven't, because you know, innocent or proven guilty and all, but then you're just kind of cooked. And that's where it is right now. Rusini's reputation, even if she gets clear, there's always going to be that, you know, that lingering question. And that's just going to fall around for us for career. That sucks, but that's how it is. Same thing with Vrable, you know, even if it turns out nothing happened, you really think his wife's going to look at him the same? Very unlikely. And at this point, if you're in New England, even if you think it was going to happen, big, I got some news for you. You can kiss that AJ Brown trade goodbye. I'm sorry, it's not happening.
Starting point is 00:10:18 I granted, I didn't think it was ever going to happen, but now it went from probably not going to happen to in my eyes to definitely not going to happen or any trade like i know new england was allegedly sniffing around max crosbie well that's the odds of that happening are now less than zero you know well can i don't mean to jump in c j yes i know what you're going to say oh but the eagles traded for dontavian wicks like no no that's not where i was going to go it's not where i was going to go do you think that the recent situation that just happened with max crosbie with you know him getting sent to Baltimore and then getting sent back to Vegas. Do you think that that kind of, and like, you know, everything that's gone on since then
Starting point is 00:11:03 and Crosby's like, hey, let's do it. Like, we're back in Vegas. Let's go to work. And they're like, now it's a better team. Like, I feel like Vegas isn't going to be as keen on trading Max Crosby at this rate. Probably not, but, you know, it's all about hypotheticals at this point. All right.
Starting point is 00:11:17 Fair enough. But what I am saying is at this point, like, I'm sorry. I think as a fan, you can probably. kiss the AJ Brown trade goodbye. Any other trade they may or may not have swung, it's going to be iffy because you've lost so much credibility. With your coach allegedly having an affair with a reporter, that makes you, especially one of like the big ones like the Anna Rusini, that makes you so untrustworthy. Other teams will not want to tell you anything because they're going to be afraid to be running your mouth in the media. And that's going to put your
Starting point is 00:11:53 front office and GM in a really awful bind, which will impact your ability to get players. Hell, players, agents may tell those players, oh, don't sign there, you know, because coach, you know, can't keep his mouth shut or it allegedly in his pants. And honest to God, this, if it really spirals out, might just slam New England's Super Bowl window shut because already you had to worry about the dreaded Super Bowl hangover. Now with this nonsense, it's just funny, you know, Rabel always preached, avoid the locker room distractions.
Starting point is 00:12:28 You know, that's what he did. Like, we can't do that. And I appreciate that sentiment. But now you are the locker room distraction. And that's going to be such a problem for team morale, a team that's already, like I said, going to be battling Super Bowl hangover, a team that already, at least the odds makers,
Starting point is 00:12:44 don't have them recapturing the AFC East. It's, I don't know. This is almost, I don't want to say, say a throwaway year, but it kind of is. You're going to lose out another year of Christian Gonzalez and Drake May on their rookie deals. And this is just so, I can't stress enough. This is awful.
Starting point is 00:13:04 This is like one of the worst case scenarios that you didn't even think was a worst case scenario until it happens. And for Vrable, do I think he'll get fired? No. But I think you are very stupid if you're going to look at me and say, the odds are zero. I don't think the odds are zero. Probably like five to ten, but that's it.
Starting point is 00:13:26 That's like the highest. I just think the odds are a little more real than people think. Especially if it costs on the AJ Brown trade, then you can't have that constant distraction hanging around. And let's just entertain a doomsday scenario. Rable gets canned over this. If that's the case, then I'm sorry. Trade Gonzalez, trade May, trade, you trade everyone.
Starting point is 00:13:47 You tear it down and you rebuild because you can't do this to Drake May. You can't do this to Gonzalez. You can't have a foundation there, then screw it up and then try to build on top of it. That's just not going to lead anywhere. I don't want that to happen, but you know,
Starting point is 00:14:09 winning is the most important thing. I could see most of that happening if he's fired. They're not going to trade Drake May away. That's just not going to happen. No, that's what I. I really do not think Drake May will. I could see Gonzo or Milton or any of these other guys to get traded away. But there's like you don't trade your franchise quarterback away.
Starting point is 00:14:33 Yeah, I know, but I'm just saying like you're not going to win with him if Brable gets fired. You're just not. Probably depends on who you're able to get out of it. Well, at this point, it's too late. You're not going to get anyone. Yeah, obviously like, I know a working deal. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:54 Anyways, to the spin zone I wanted to refer to. Just like, someone has to be out for like Rusini or Rabel's head. Because like these pictures are way to like not a professional, but the way that these pictures are shot, like, there's a private investigator involved. This isn't like some, oh, Rable and Diane Rossini are at the same hotel as me. snap a pick no some some motherfucker is hiding in the bushes of this place and taking pictures
Starting point is 00:15:29 like it's either Rusini's husband or Jets fan or an Eagles fan like this isn't just by some coincidence like something's got to be going on oh and this picture was taking during the Combine damn I was thinking this was after like the Super Bowl and he's really going through it
Starting point is 00:15:51 no that was the Combine just be better Mike make sure you have another coach with you if you want to go out for a drink this is insane now CJ does make a good point of uh in terms of if this uh this could potentially like sour the AJ Brown deal right yeah now With everything considered, you know, you taking into consideration, everything that's happened in Philly, everything that's happened within the last week, do you still think that, like, you know, I feel like the Eagles would still do it. Like they would still trade A.J. Brown, regardless of everything that's happened with Rusini, everything and Rehuey and Rabel. because like at the end of the day Eagles are still going to be worried about their own shit
Starting point is 00:16:54 like they're still worried about their own shit and their own shit is AJ Brown they don't want AJ Brown to be an eagle for another year they want it they want them off the books at this point regardless if that means trading them to the Patriots and Mike Rable with every
Starting point is 00:17:14 like we said everything that's gone on the last week like even with all that I think that there's still going to be like we have to worry about what's with ourselves and like don't see anyone else trying to make a run at a j brown outside of obviously the rams but now they're not now they're out of the a j brown sweepstakes you're not going to cut them i think though at least to the draft i think any potential of a trade happening is now down in the dump so i think at least until the draft no trade will happen so let's see what happens during the draft. They could ask all the...
Starting point is 00:17:54 There's no trade that's going to happen until June 1st anyways. Not even during the draft? No. Well, I'm more just saying an AJ Brown trade in general because all the reports have said they're waiting until June 1st to make A.J. Brown not an eagle. Yeah, they could say a lot of things, but the possibility could change. Yeah, and then the Eagles have to eat up more money. That's why June 1st is such an important day because they don't eat up as much money. I still don't think they should get rid of A.J. Brown, I think they should just outright keep him. But if they really think he's that much of a headache, just wait until June 1st and then trade, that makes no sense to me.
Starting point is 00:18:43 Because now you're just destroying the offense and being over-reliant on Sequin or Devante Smith. And it's like, no. Or Don Tavian Wix. Anyway, as I'm saying, I know you like that one, CJ. I know you like that one. We're relying on Devonthe Smith or Sey Pornbark. I'm just going to ignore what you just said to me.
Starting point is 00:19:09 If they trade A.J. Brown and Devonthe and Wix becomes the second coming of an all-pro receiver, I'm going to... That's our segue into our next topic. Packers trade, Antavian Wicks to the Eagles. Packers received a fifth round pick and this year's draft in the sixth rounder for next year. With that being said, according to Adam Shepter,
Starting point is 00:19:34 Eagles are signing Wicks to a one year $12.5 million extension. And that was announced on Saturday or finalized on Saturday. Wicks heading into his final year of his rookie contract, now under contract with Philly through 2027, so he'll be a free agent in 28. Now, I don't really think this is much of, like, is it, I don't think this is much of a response to everything with A.J. Brown. Unless like, you really think that, that Devontas Smith is going to be a high-end wide receiver one,
Starting point is 00:20:15 which he definitely could be, definitely could be. And they also, and the possibility that they also think that Devont, Don Tavian Wicks is a high end too or good too but I mean we're also talking about Harvey Roseman here. He's got some bullshit up his sleeve.
Starting point is 00:20:35 Not this much bullshit. Are you telling me he'll look at AJ Brown in the face and say you know the trade we just made? We don't need you anymore. We don't need you anymore. Straight to his face and not crack a smile.
Starting point is 00:20:50 Hey, LeBron, hey, LeBron. Hey, LeBron, we're all set. We got Ben Simmons. Insane reference. Oh, then, AJ Brown would lose it. And first left and then lose it. As if to say, Dantafian Wicks can make up even half of the production he does. That is insane to me.
Starting point is 00:21:17 I think that they just needed more death because they, They lost the wide receiver 3, and they're going to add D'Ontavian Wix to make up for that, not to replace Jay Brown. Also, the move makes sense for the Packers because they have one of the most crowded receiver rooms of the entire league. Yeah. I mean, think about it. You lost Romeo Dobbs to free agency. You traded away Wicks. So now you've got your core of Jaden Reed, Christian Watson, and Matthew Golden.
Starting point is 00:21:48 Do you really want Christian Wobbs? Lots of no due to injury reasons. I don't know. Well, he's still on the roster, so that's a question for the Packers now, isn't it? Yeah, but I'm saying out of all the receivers, I thought he'd be first to go because not only of the talent, but because the injury problems that he's had.
Starting point is 00:22:07 So I was shocked that he wasn't the one to go. But he's a quality receiver, and hopefully he can stay healthy, but damn, those injuries come at the worst possible times. Yeah, I feel like that the Packers wouldn't get. get the right deal or the deal that they would want for Christian Watson. Because of those injuries. So they're probably just better off just hold on to it for now.
Starting point is 00:22:36 Any other storylines that we want to touch on in terms of this trade? Not really, no. Hey, Devonte Smith, we're good now. We don't need you. We have Dantavian Wicks. We all set, man. We all set. One last thing about the Brable Rusini thing real quick
Starting point is 00:23:02 before we move on to draft stuff. I actually didn't realize this, but this is actually the last year of Rusini's contract with the athletic. Oh, boy. It ends this summer. Ooh. currently the among the highest paid reporters
Starting point is 00:23:25 at the New York Times company yeah I don't think I don't think she's being brought back just the feeling we don't know this is a big misunderstanding I really hope they're sake of this I hope so because I'm not sure they can afford to
Starting point is 00:23:43 lose her because how good she is yeah all right Step aside for a quick break. When we come back, we'll get into our NFL draft coverage. This is the full Burksky podcast. It may not have always showed it in the stat sheet, but you can see him making throws when he needs to make the throws.
Starting point is 00:24:00 Back-to-back games where he has three touchdowns. Someone's got to get that six or seven spot. He's an elite wide receiver as a rookie. Truly a lose-lose scenario for both sides. Excuse me. All right. Let's get into draft coverage. Pass rushers today.
Starting point is 00:24:20 So we're going to be covering edge rushers. um edge rushers defense tackles defense ends and yeah uh anything else i'm missing no no just pass rushers tackles ends edge rushers you know all the all the good stuff good all right sounds good i like it all right let's pull up a trusty pff real quick um just got a all right we'll start with What do we want to start with? I am starting with the DTs. All right, DT's. Let's do that.
Starting point is 00:24:59 Now, DT is one of those positions where there's really no, well, actually, it's more so front seven, by the way, now that I think about it. All right. So, top five. We're also going to cover some linebackers as well, but that's, we'll get there at the end. Well, let's go to interior defenders. So top five corner to PFF right now, Ohio State, Katie McDonald, Florida, Kael Banks, Clemson, Peter Woods, Georgia, Kristen Miller,
Starting point is 00:25:34 and Texas Tech Lee Hunter. Uh-huh. You know, this might be one of those times where PFF and I are just going to have to disagree. Oh, which part? The rankings. My number one is
Starting point is 00:26:00 actually Clemson's Peter Woods. My number two is Cade McDonald from Ohio State. My number three is Lee Hunter from Texas Tech. My four is Caleb Banks from Florida. And my number five is Christian Miller from Georgia. Honestly, probably not the craziest thing in the world,
Starting point is 00:26:16 considering that you look at McDonald to Hunter. it's like just based off of PFF rank, it's like a separation of 10 spots. Yeah. So I'm going to start with my number one, which is Peter Woods. Peter Woods, go. Now look, here's a fun little exercise you children's can do at home. You can look at early mock drafts.
Starting point is 00:26:47 Like the, you know how they do like NFL, week one, weight. too early mock draft like that nonsense. Look at that and then compare it to now. Peter Woods was a slam dunk top 10 potentially top five pick. And now some people don't even have it going in the first round because Clemson as a whole
Starting point is 00:27:05 just underperformed and it's hurting a lot of their players like him, T.J. Parker, Blake Miller, Antonio Williams. The other list goes on. Kay Klubnick especially, but he was always iffy. But Peter Woods, he's slightly undersized for a
Starting point is 00:27:21 DT, he's 6-2-2-98, which isn't like really the end of the world. He's got a really explosive first step. He's got insane body control. He's, you know, the hand striking, I think, is borderline perfect. He has like a full, like, bag of pass rush moves. He's got, you know, his swipe move. He's got the bull rush. He can get by you in a number of ways.
Starting point is 00:27:50 and he's scheme versatile. He could be your nose tackle. He could be your five tech. He could even play end if you wanted him to. And he's just an athlete all the way through and through. Despite, you know, he's got a 490 pound max bench press. He has a 700 pound squat and he runs a sub 4940 being like around like 300 pounds. so do with that what you will
Starting point is 00:28:23 the only real like issue that i have is his bag is deep right but the moot but he's more of a jack of all trades master of none he can swipe he can uh you know he can get a good bull rush but after that initial like burst right if he gets beaten off the burst, then he has the tools, but he doesn't have the depth, if that makes sense. And sometimes he tries to go for the highlight play.
Starting point is 00:29:03 You know, he gets aggressive. He goes for the big time tackle for loss or the big sack instead of, you know, actually securing the tackle and making the play. You know, that's just gap discipline and that is a concern. But overall, I still think Peter Woods is number one. So moving on to number two is Caden McDonald's, and he's not a sexy pick at defensive tackle, not by a long shot. He's also mildly undersized. He's also 6'2, but he's in the 90th percentile for weight at 326 pounds. He is, he's your nose tackle. That's Caden McDonald. That's the only way I can describe it.
Starting point is 00:29:47 He is a bona fide nose tackle. He just erases the ground game. He meets his runners in the backfield. And he just pushes centers backwards. And look, I'm going to be real with you guys. All right. We all know this. So I'm just going to say it.
Starting point is 00:30:09 You can't teach strength. I mean, you can work out. You can hit the gym. But that natural strength is something you cannot teach, and it's what he has. He has another solid first step. And just the anchor is ridiculous. Center is trying to move him.
Starting point is 00:30:30 They end up going backwards. To mention, he always shows up when you need a most, especially when you need that goal line or fourth and one stop. The only issue is it's not that he's mostly used as a nose tackle. It's that I don't know if he can be much else. His entire pass rush is just a bulrush. and when it doesn't work, it's kind of iffy. And also, I feel like he's just more comfortable being a run stuffer
Starting point is 00:30:57 because his motor is inconsistent on passing downs. If he gets stuffed like on a passing down, you will literally see him take a playoff instead of fighting through the whistle. Once again, this is all per NFL draft buzz, and I do think they're right. And just for fun, I'm going to go with my number three. which is Lee Hunter out of Texas Tech. He's another, he's your pro-typical run stuff for a huge dude, six, four, almost 320.
Starting point is 00:31:29 I just, he's a bit slower than you'd like. He runs a 5-240, only a 100, only a 100-inch broad jump, which I believe puts into the 18th percentile defensive tackles. 21.5 inch vertical, which I believe puts, puts him in the bottom 1% of defensive tackles. And also, he gets fatigued way too easily.
Starting point is 00:31:58 And he generates some pocket push as a bullrusher. He's a good run stuffer, but he has an athletic ceiling. Also, if my memory serves me right, I do believe he's 23 and we'll turn 24 this season. So he's a little older than what you want as well. And other than that, there's a little bit more. there are some other good defensive tackle prospects you could pick up later guys like Dominique Orange out of Iowa State Gerald Jackson Jr. out of Florida State, DeMonte Capehart out of Clemson, Zane Durant from Penn State, Xavier Harris from Ole Miss as well,
Starting point is 00:32:34 are just others that come to my head. You guys can feel free to say something. That's my last deal on defensive tackles. You know me, I'm not the biggest draft guy, so I was going to lead for tuck at the very least. No, no, no, no problem. Is it just like clearly? Peter Woods is head and shoulders about everyone else, or do you think that it's only like a little bit better? At this point, I would say it's a little,
Starting point is 00:33:06 a little bit better, you know? So you think it's really, it was head and shoulders, but he had a really disappointing season. And I'll be the first to tell you he let a lot of people down, but I'm wondering if it was him or was it just Clemson itself because Clemson underperformed across the board.
Starting point is 00:33:27 Yeah. I think Davo Swinney actually might have to go, but nobody's ready for that conversation. Yeah, that's, that has been an ongoing conversation, especially through this year. I mean, fuck man. Like,
Starting point is 00:33:41 people were mad at Swin at Davo for his comments on the radio, like, what, in September? And he was like, what, didn't he call? Wasn't that he called Clemson fans spoiled, but,
Starting point is 00:33:55 what was it you said something on the radio it was like why it's like dude you built this culture you're supposed to maintain that culture yeah you're not maintaining a culture and like
Starting point is 00:34:09 basically since COVID yeah it's been a moment since they've first off he competed in the playoffs well yeah because he's allergic to the transfer portal unless of course he's losing players yeah But let's keep this train rolling, shall we?
Starting point is 00:34:31 Yes, I agree. And I don't care where anyone says, my number one edge rusher continues to be Ruben Bain. I know he's undersized. He's 6-2. Huh? PFF would agree with you. Oh, I'll be damned. Nice.
Starting point is 00:34:46 I know he's 6-2-263, arm length in the seventh percentile for defensive ends. Those are on 47240. that's cool. But the problem is, look, I know it's arm length. Ever since the whole Will Campbell thing, every prospect, it's like, oh my God, look, arms. And then, you know, they clutch their pearls, they have a heart attack, and we just keep moving on with our debt.
Starting point is 00:35:11 But what I like about Rubin Bain is just his play style. If I to sum up with one word, it's violent. The first step quickness often leaves offensive tackles, just grabbing it air. His initial hand strikes just land with force. He can convert his power to speed and vice versa naturally. His pass rush angles are second to non. He is an extremely high IQ.
Starting point is 00:35:37 Not to mention, he steps up when the moments are brightest. I mean, I don't need to tell you how he was against Texas A&M, right? You know, they were going into what's it called Kyle Field. And you know what happened? happened three sacks yeah yeah came in and upset them so but yeah i know the uh the with the arm length that's got a concern but if he were more of a speed rusher i would say that's iffy but he's not power rushers can get away of that speed guys cannot in case you're wondering though uh i do have a top ten for edge rushers rubin bain's my number one my number two is tex david bailey
Starting point is 00:36:24 And then after those two, because I think those two are head and shoulders above everyone else, after that, honest to God, a drop. I think you could arrange them anyway like you want. My number three, and I'm still iffy on it, is T.J. Parker from Clemson. Then I would have Akeem Messador also from Miami. Five, Keldrick Falk from Auburn. Six, Cassius Howell at Texas A&M. Seven, Zion Young from Missouri. Eight, Malachi Lawrence from UCF.
Starting point is 00:37:00 Nine, R. Mason Thomas from Oklahoma. And 10, Derek Moore from Michigan. I can hear you disagreeing, Tuck, air your grievances. I'm a big Akeem Mesidor fan. I can't put him that high just strictly because of age. And injuries. Don't forget that. Yeah. But, yeah, Messador, yeah, he's going to be 24.
Starting point is 00:37:27 this season, but you can't deny the production. He is a pure pass rusher. He just has a nose for the ball, and he always gets to the quarterback. He probably has the deepest pass rush bag in this class. He is the pass rusher's pass rusher. The problem is, you know, the medical history and the age. I truly believe he would be on the conversation for the best edge rusher in the class. if not running away with the best, if not for his age.
Starting point is 00:38:01 This is just more so ability for me. But I do want to go on to my number two, which is Texas Tech's David Bailey. Yeah. Right end of God, this man was built in a lab. He's 6-4-251, runs a 4540, a 79-inch wingspan, and a 129-inch broad jump, along with arm length in the 78th percentile and hand size in the 79th percentile. just he's a freak athlete. He has a 405 bench, 550 squat.
Starting point is 00:38:35 Just he's a speed rusher, but he can convert his speed to power. He plays with momentum and he's a disruptor. The only issue that I have, like really, is that whenever he gets caught at the line, right? Whenever his momentum gets stopped, he, like, doesn't really get it back. And a lot of that has to do with frame concerns because I feel like he's bulked up as much as he's going to get. He's kind of maxed out around 250. So that, the NFL, that could become a problem. And sometimes he's another one.
Starting point is 00:39:14 And I know I've said this about a few guys, especially last episode, but I'm noticing this more and more. He's another in a long line of college players that are stat chasers. He wants to make the highlight play. He wants to stuff the stat sheet. and that leads to vacated gaps. I could see that. Yeah. And I'll give a quick mention to Keldrick Falk out of Auburn and T.J. Parker out of Clemson.
Starting point is 00:39:45 They're both very hit or miss guys depending on your system. I both think they're going to be incredibly scheme dependent as well. Falk is a beast in run defense, his pass rush bag is ill iffy. Parker had the potential to be the number one. pass rusher in this draft and kind of like his other Clemson counterpart. And Peter Woods, he just kind of didn't. Also,
Starting point is 00:40:07 apparently he's a little slower than what you'd want, but his timing is usually pretty good at pass rushing so I can leave that be. The only other one that I want to mention is Texas A&M's Cassius Howell. This is another case where the arm length scares
Starting point is 00:40:27 people. He's in the fourth percentile. for edge rushers. And the reason I'm more concerned with him and not Rubin Bain is his play style. Ruben Bain has balanced, but he's more of a power rusher. You know, he's a big guy, you know, he's a bigger guy, at least weight-wise, and he can play a bully ball. How old does not? He's one of the lighter, craftier speed rusher types.
Starting point is 00:40:53 And that's something that I don't know if you can get away with at the next level. But we'll see. I've been wrong before. And on top of that, there are some other guys I think are worth just looking at. Romello Hyde out of Texas Tech, L.T. Overton out of Alabama, Gabe Jackus out of Illinois, Dan I, Dennis Sutton out of Penn State, Keirong Crawford out of Auburn, Mikhail Kamara out of Indiana, and Tyreek Sapp out of Florida, I think, could be good mid-to-late-round picks as well. Not bad, not bad. Overall, we all know Ruben being.
Starting point is 00:41:31 like top and then David Bailey was right behind him. But not bad. Yeah. This is a decent D-line class. It really is. Yeah, this is like one of the strengths outside of, this is like a good trench class, you know, especially with the offensive tackle, defensive tackle,
Starting point is 00:41:49 pass rush. And now, kids, we get to the real stuff here. Linebackers, off-ball fellows. You know, the, The real flying around stuff in the stat sheet with tackles type of guys, you know? We're doing it this week? Oh, yeah. No, this is front seven week, man.
Starting point is 00:42:14 Oh, okay. Yeah. So we got to address the elephant in the room. The number one tackle, according to most, or a linebacker, go. According to most, myself included, is Ohio State's Arvel Reese. once again just freak athlete another dude made in a lab 6 4 240 sub 4 540 10 yard split at a 158 he's he's what you want he's got sideline to sideline speed he's an elite run defender who could diagnose plays of the drop of a hat he's a superb tackler and he got a I think he had like 6.5 sacks last season. So he has a pass rush bag as well.
Starting point is 00:43:10 And he produces against top competition as well. But the name of the game, the name here is upside. When you're drafting him, you are not getting a polished prospect. You are getting a pure lottery ticket. Picture somebody like, I'm not saying they're the same. But kind of like, remember Trayvall Walker out of Georgia? Yeah. Noticing a rise similar to that.
Starting point is 00:43:37 Another do-it-all guy, freak athlete who's going to need to pick a lane at the next level. The only real thing that I just don't think he does all that well is coverage. You know, he's not a pass cover guy. He's a good, like, sit down in his own, anchored, like tackle someone there. But that's pretty much it. He's got a solid pass rush. He's got solid run to. offense. He's a great tackler, but what's his specialty? What can he do? That's really my big beef here.
Starting point is 00:44:11 And moving on, let's talk about the other star from Ohio State. Sunny Stiles. Oh, this man, 6-5, almost 245, runs a sub 540, is in the 100th percentiles, meaning he's number Oh, no, for vertical and broad jump, 84th percentile for your 10-yard split, 56 of the three-cone drill, just another guy that was essentially just made in a lab. That size speed profile is historic. He's like a faster Arvel Reese.
Starting point is 00:44:53 He could keep pace with tight ends in coverage. He lines up in the slot. he's agile he can get a round lineman he's just too fast for them he's a reliable tackler and his uh background at safety shows a lot especially when he plays zone and he's he's what you want a linebacker really he's uh he's your signal caller you know he wears the green dot for a reason and he knows how to run a defense the only problem here is his run defense is not where you want it to be. It's just not. He's not a getting to the backfield guy.
Starting point is 00:45:42 He's not a blitz the quarterback and get a sack guy. He only had one sack all of last season. His ability to get to the backfield is weird. Also, he bites on play action a lot. That's something he's going to have to work on. But outside of that, I do really like Sunny Stiles. And other than that, this is actually a really good linebacker class. Outside of him, you got C.J. Allen out of Georgia, Anthony Hill Jr. out of Texas.
Starting point is 00:46:10 Jacob Rodriguez from Texas Tech. Jake Golda from Cincinnati, Deontay Lawson from Alabama. Josiah Trotter from Missouri. Kyle Lewis from Pittsburgh and Tehran, York at Texas A&M or all the rest of my top 10. Also, in the later rounds, look at guys like Jay Sean Barham out of Michigan. Michigan, Landerbarden from Utah, and Red Murdoch from Buffalo as solid depth pieces as well. I'm not going to lie to you. I want Jacob Rodriguez.
Starting point is 00:46:38 I do want Jacob Rodriguez. No man of the team, if you get someone like him who's smart and is capable of reading the play as it happens, you should want a guy like that on your team. He's a capable leader. He's a capable linebacker. He's just not as athletic as Sunny Stiles or RFA. O'Rease. But he is more than capable of doing the job. If he's there in the third round and we have the opportunity to take him, I want him. He could go second, by the way.
Starting point is 00:47:08 Oh, he absolutely could. Whenever he's available, that's what. I know he's not going to go first round, but I know second or third round is where it's most likely to happen. If he's there for the Ravens, we should take him. if we're just like pure linebacker, I think Sunny Stiles might be the best because R. Val Ries is like a raw prospect and we don't know what he'll look like as an edge rusher. And we don't know what he'll be asked to be in the NFL yet.
Starting point is 00:47:41 Since he looks like he's capable of doing both, I'm not sure what he'll be asked to do. And I'm not going to lie to you. I don't. The way it's supposed to pan out, I think the Jets are going to take Rvel Reese. I don't trust the Jets to be able. to do something with him yet i don't trust him so i think sunny styles in his franchise and wherever
Starting point is 00:48:04 he goes is going to look much better than all real rice does within like maybe the first season maybe in the second season it can change but starting out i think sunny styles might be the better of the two i could see that yeah it all depends for rice where he ends up and uh if he goes to the jets or the Cardinals, I'm not going to be super thrilled for him. Like, don't get wrong, I'll be happy he made the league, but I just don't think those are the best places for him to go. Yeah, but we'll see. That's all.
Starting point is 00:48:48 All right. Anything else? No, no, no. Cool. Cool, cool, cool, cool. All right. That is our draft preview for pass rushers. Friday we will be doing
Starting point is 00:49:06 CJ, what are we doing on Friday? Wide receivers and running backs. Bang. Bang! Bang! We covered everything else. We did offensive line, quarterback, DBs, now front seven.
Starting point is 00:49:22 Yeah. Immaculate grid time now. All right. So we have a Texan and Cardinal, Texan and a adult. I'm already, I've already thought of two names right off the bat. Texan, that was a first round draft pick. Picachu there.
Starting point is 00:49:42 A ram and a cardinal, a ram and a dolphin, a ram that was a first round draft pick. A cardinal that got 50 plus career sacks, a dolphin that did the same thing, and a first round draft pick that got 50 plus career sacks. Right off the bat for Texan Cardinal. I'm thinking JJ Watt, Texan dolphin. I'm thinking Aryan Boster. We want to Lamar Miller.
Starting point is 00:50:13 Lamar Miller. Well, he was kind of a big name, though, you know? Over Aryan Foster? Yeah, but he's known. So that would be Texans, dolphins, right? Sorry. Definitely lesser known. Well, can we just think about this?
Starting point is 00:50:32 So it's Dolphins Texans. Obviously, tonsils, obviously. Tunsell's obvious Mario Williams is obvious Lamar Miller How obvious would Ryan Fitzpatrick be Because I'm 90% sure he played for the Texans No he did
Starting point is 00:50:44 That's Wait hold up Remember that Browns running back Duke Johnson Yes Yeah He played for the dolphins He did yes
Starting point is 00:50:54 For like one year I remember Did he play a snap He did yes All right Duke Johnson 0.8% that. Good call.
Starting point is 00:51:06 The aisle of this. Hey, who's the O-lineman for the Texans? I know that's not very specific, but there's a pretty one that they drafted recently. I can't remember how recent, though. Kenyon Green? Yes. I thought that was the name, but I didn't want to say. It is.
Starting point is 00:51:27 Yeah, Kenyon Green. He'd be a first-round pick for them, yeah. Do you think anyone would care for that one? Well, people are just going to look at Watt. Hopkins, Deshawn Watson, C.J. Stroud, like, you would have a bit to go before Kenyon Green, unless you want to get really silly. But Texas were in 2002, so we don't have a lot to. It'd be David Carr and Mario Williams somewhere. Yeah, those, David Carr, Mario Williams would probably be your top gets right there.
Starting point is 00:52:00 J.J. Watt would be another one. Same thing with Stroud. They had this corner. I forget his name from Wake Forest who ended up kind of sucking. He was a bust. I forgot his name. Do we want to go? Kevin Johnson?
Starting point is 00:52:12 Huh? Kevin Johnson? Yeah. We can use that. We can use that. But he's kind of a bus. All I remember about him said he went to Wake Forest. But he had a good combine,
Starting point is 00:52:26 and then he became a bus, which was unfortunate. So do we want to go Kevin Johnson, if that's his name, or Kenyon Green? I think. Kevin Johnson. He would have been 2015. Yeah, 2015. Point three.
Starting point is 00:52:50 Shout out Lake Forest, man. That's all I remember is just Wake Forest. Yeah. All right. All right. All right. So.
Starting point is 00:52:59 Rams' first round pick, though. They didn't have many of those lately. Yeah, lately. Shit. Well, Marshall Falk was a first round. pick but not to the round. No, he was the Colts. Would they get us
Starting point is 00:53:16 on that technicality? Yeah, I would imagine they would. Also, Marshall Falk would be really, really, really, really, really obvious. Yeah. It wasn't. Oh, yeah. Would you believe me if I told you would be really
Starting point is 00:53:30 obvious? Because it would be. Yeah, no, I know. I'm just like stating a hypothetical. I think before the less speed era. would be obvious. Stephen Jackson would be obvious. Sam Bradford. They drafted that dude Jason Smith,
Starting point is 00:53:48 like second overall. I feel like he'd be obvious. Chris Long. Chris Long may not be that obvious. Robert Quinn, I think, was a first. He was. Was Michael Brockers a first rounder? Not to my knowledge.
Starting point is 00:54:07 He could have done. It's obvious as well. Tavon Austin. Yes, that's too obvious. Oh, wait. Who was, they had two first round picks that year. Who was that? Who was that?
Starting point is 00:54:25 Was it Alec Ogletree? Because I know they had two first round picks to Tavon Austin. I fan with him, and they drafted, I want to say it was Alec Ogletree. It could be possible. Should we send it or no? I'm sending it 8.2%.
Starting point is 00:54:41 Good call. Because I remember they had two picks. We all remember Tavon Austin, greatest college mix tape of all time. All right, the first round draft pick with 50 sacks, 50 plus. We got to,
Starting point is 00:54:53 let's be creative here, gang. Damn, I would have since, I thought Alden Smith, but I was like, no, he did not have 50s.
Starting point is 00:55:01 He didn't play long enough, unfortunately. He's close. He's, like, in the 40s, but. He had, like,
Starting point is 00:55:06 three in good years and then got, well, he got plus the weed. Yeah, that's not the same. He could have been a Hall of Fame or had that not happened. That sucks. I'm trying to think, because everyone wants to go for the big names, Justin Houston, I feel like could be a choice.
Starting point is 00:55:27 Could we pull the Jack Youngblood card again? I don't know. Wait a minute. Speaking of the Cardinals, they drafted a dude named Simeon Rice. I think he had a lot of sacks. He was like a lot of three pick from back in the day. Why not Clay Matthews? Which one?
Starting point is 00:55:48 Well, was he, though? Green Bay Packers, Clay Matthews. Wait, was he a first round pick? Pretty sure. Yeah, let's just do that. 0.8%. Golly. Clay Matthews?
Starting point is 00:56:06 Yeah. Because I remember he did play lineback here and not just pass rusher. Well, 50 sacks is 50 sacks. Yeah. All right. 50 sacks for a dolphin. I mean, Cameron Wake is obvious. That's the only one of the Taylor is obvious.
Starting point is 00:56:25 Yeah. What about? Nick Todd? No. Would Trace Armstrong be too obvious? He's an early 2000s guy. I don't even know the fuck that. is to be honest.
Starting point is 00:56:42 Yeah, Trace Armstrong. You played for like five, six years with the dolphins. He was really good. I'm going to say that it's not obvious because I don't even know where the fuck that is. Trace. Yeah, Trace Armstrong, I think, is his name or is it? Yeah, Trace Armstrong. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:01 Tuck, you got any disagreements with us? No, I don't know the name particularly. So, if CJ claims, two percent. Well, Arizona and 50 plus sex is obviously Clay as Campbell. Or Chandler Jones or JJ Watt. No, but he didn't get that many with the cards, though. It says Korea 50 plus sex. Okay.
Starting point is 00:57:30 Well, we could be fun about it. Like, what about, uh, they had a guy, Freddie Joe something. Like, he had a really funny. name like that. The Cardinals. Like this was back in the day. Now we're going to points where I don't fucking know.
Starting point is 00:57:51 So put it, just type that in. I don't remember his last name was Freddie Joe something. No. Try I.E. Because I know he plays on the card. Yeah, that's him. 0.7%.
Starting point is 00:58:07 Yeah. Now we have to do a one of the L.O. Channel. Well, that the now. Don't do Odell. Don't do Odell. Yeah, that's too obvious.
Starting point is 00:58:28 So what are we doing? I think it is. Rams, dolphins, a little too. I mean, you want to, is Ryan Fitzpatrick obvious? Wait a minute. Chris, Chris. He didn't play for the Rams. Wait, Rams.
Starting point is 00:58:45 Oh, no, he did. No, he did. Yeah, he did. Wait, Chris. fuck when he Danny Amadola was on the dolphins was he on the Rams
Starting point is 00:58:58 before he went to New England because I know New England was Was he there? Yeah Nice That yeah thank you for reminding me about that Danny Amandola even though he trashes the team now
Starting point is 00:59:13 Yeah Cards Rams That's I mean I mean, I would trash the team, too, if I was to let go and then they won a third ring without me. He left. Hey, A, A, A, he left. He could have came back.
Starting point is 00:59:30 Now. How much more would go back? They could have tossed them a little bit more bread, you know? No, no, no. Chris Hogan, that's a real one right there. All right. So, Rams cards, I think you said. Yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:59:51 I guess Sam Bradford, but that's obvious. Do you play for the cards? Wait, did Chris Chandler ever play for the Cardinals, the quarterback, the one that we made, you know, he was called Crystal Chandelier because he was delicate. Did he end up playing for the Cardinals? So I know he played for the Rams for like 10 years. The thing is, are the Cardinals before that, but I think. Who? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:00:20 Chris Chandler, he's a quarterback. I'm not sure I'm not familiar with the Cardinals history I should be better at this but I'm just not well you would be forgiven Kurt Warner is also very obvious yeah that's true
Starting point is 01:00:41 what about hey did Ricky Proe play for the Cardinals not to my knowledge I remember he wasn't with the Rams first. Maybe he's with the Cardinals. Someone better get that. I'm not.
Starting point is 01:01:06 Yeah, I don't think he was a Cardinals guy. Hmm. I don't know, Chris. Damn, our Immaculate Grid is looking very good right now. We got to just go with an obvious one just to say fuck it, but. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I know. We can't.
Starting point is 01:01:31 We can't. We can't. You know what? I'm telling, I feel like Chris Chandler. I'm telling you, because I think before he was with the Rams, he was with the Cardinals. And like I said, he got the name Crystal Shandolier because he was hurt. All right. And if it doesn't work out, then I'll take the L.
Starting point is 01:01:50 And then this will be my fault. One person. I knew he was with the Cardinals before the Rams. I knew it. Ah, because everyone remembers him on the Rams, but that's not where he started. All right. We can go, Tyron Matthew. you, J.J. Watt. I think Mario Williams, too.
Starting point is 01:02:07 Yeah, but I don't know. Okay, Hopkins also's very obvious. Yeah. David Johnson, very obvious. I think Jonathan Joseph. I don't know how obvious David Johnson would be. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. I know. Wait, hold up, hold up. Jonathan Joseph. I believe at some point, Brian Hoyer was a cardinal. Oh, yeah, no, he was.
Starting point is 01:02:33 Yeah, no doubt. Does he, I know he was a Texan, would he be obvious, Hoyer the Destroyer? Somewhat? Just guys, like, that's, well, Hoyer is, like, almost in that, like, Ryan Fitzpatrick conversation. Like, dude was on a gazillion teams. What about Josh McCown? Was he ever at Texan? I don't think.
Starting point is 01:02:57 No, I don't know he was. No, he definitely was a card, but I don't know. What about, um, oh, my God. God, what's his name? He was What about Ryan Fitzpatrick? No, no, no, no, no, no. He was a tight end. Fells something. Oh, Aaron.
Starting point is 01:03:14 Because I know he got a star on the Cardinals, but was he? I'm pretty sure he was on the Texans. Well, it's Darren Fells and Daniel Fells, so. No, Darren, Darren. You sure? Yeah, because I know Darren Fells was on the cards. Ferda, Ferda win. 0.2
Starting point is 01:03:34 7 Rarity. Oh, my God. That's a good one, boys. Yeah. Well, the most obvious ones were a lot of names that we threw out there, to say the least.
Starting point is 01:03:50 Yep. DeAndre Hopkins, Kurt Warner, J.J. Watt, Jason Taylor, Ramsey, Fitzie, Stroud, Gough. Miles Garrett. I'm surprised that Miles Garrett was even a name that was tossed around for the 50s player, but
Starting point is 01:04:05 probably because he just worked the sack record. Yeah. Oh, that's true. Well, good job, fellows. The, uh, hardest one was Rams Cardinals. Yeah. Yeah, that tracks.
Starting point is 01:04:24 Yeah, I mean, considering that we pulled Chris Chandler out of our ass. Oh, yeah. The only reason I ever remember him, like I said, is because his name was Chris. a nickname was Crystal Chandelier because he was like, he was good, but he was always hurt. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:39 And the fans, I guess, just got tired of it. Hey, man, that happens sometimes, you know, you just get tired of a guy getting hurt all the time,
Starting point is 01:04:46 you know? You know what I mean? Yeah. Especially your quarterback. That's got to suck. Oh, yeah. It's the worst.
Starting point is 01:04:55 That's the worst. All right. Well, that's all the scheduled content. I have for you today. Anything, anything else that's tickling your tummies? Don't put it like that, but...
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