The Fumblerooski Podcast - Let The Buyer Beware -Ep 178 The Fumblerooski Podcast

Episode Date: April 18, 2023

How does Jalen Hurts' mega-deal impact the QB market? Which offensive draft prospects are overrated? Which defensive draft prospects are getting too much hype? Who do you want your team to draft? CJ Medeiros and Justin Tucker discuss these topics and more!

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Touchdown! Good evening. You are listening to the Fumble Rooski podcast by Power 88 and Secret Weapon Consulting. I am your host, CJ Medeiros, and with me, of course, is our good friend and our resident Ravens fan, Justin Tucker. So before we start off, Justin, how are you doing tonight? Not too bad, not too bad. Nice, nice. Good to know, good to know. So we have quite a show planned. Now we're going to continue our draft coverage with our overrated offensive and defensive prospects.

We have the fan box as always. But first, we are going to touch on a certain quarterback of the Philadelphia Eagles who just got his first big boy deal. Jalen Hurts. So for those who don't know, Jalen Hurts just got a massive deal. I believe it was a five-year, $255 million deal with, I believe, $179 million guaranteed. So right off the bat, Justin, what are your thoughts on this? My first thoughts was congratulations to the Philadelphia Eagles. Congratulations to Jalen hurts and lamar jackson you are a raven look at that price oh my god and everybody thought we were

lowballing him that's the first thing that came to my mind i was like see we actually did him a nice thing here but again once again it's not the Ravens. It's the Eagles right now. I saw it. I was like, he deserves it. He played like an MVP this year. He's been balling. He proved his doubt is wrong.

He proved me wrong. And more importantly, he's proven to be the guy in what the Philadelphia Eagles need. Yeah, 110%. I agree with you. And I think this deal is very well deserved. He came up. We all said before the season started it was a put-up or shut-up year. And, oh, boy, did he put up.

Like I said, every penny of that deal, well worth it. So while the Eagles fans are happy, you know, if you travel south a bit, the Ravens fans are not. Because, Justin, you are our favorite Ravens fan, and you know this better than I do, but the Ravens just offered Lamar, I believe, a fully guaranteed deal. Can you tell us, like, what happened there, I believe, a fully guaranteed deal. Can you tell us what happened there? It wasn't a fully guaranteed deal.

I want to say it was a four- or five-year deal with 200 fully guaranteed, which means there was more money still on the table. 133 of it was fully guaranteed at signing. 175 guaranteed was guaranteed later, and then up to $200 million after injuries, and if he's on the roster by 2024, 2026, which we all entitled for him to be on the roster by then. So with all those incentives added into the contract, it would have gone up to $200 million guaranteed. Lamar Jackson said no to the deal. Now, this deal has been out there for quite some time.

I don't understand why now it's getting the pup that it is. I think it's because of the contract that Jalen Hurts got, because he's the one after Lamar that should have gotten paid. But he got paid before Lamar, so it kind of sets the precedence. Lamar was looking for a contract to run the same lines of Deshaun watson and now that we've seen that jalen hurts who has more leverage than lamar does nah he didn't get the contract that we all thought he was going to get and so that sets the market and it just proves that deshaun watson was the outlier and lamar jackson has to move towards what jalen hurts got not what yeah yes so so when you look at what Jalen Hurts got, do you think that this Jalen Hurts deal kind of debunks the argument

that the Ravens are, and I use this term loosely, low-balling Lamar? Yeah. Because that's what NFL media was saying. The Players Union also said Lamar is getting low-balled. So, like I said, so you think what Jalen Hurts just got proves undoubtedly that the Ravens are not low-balling him. Yeah, I think without a question. He's an MVP caliber player that just came off a Super Bowl appearance,

and he just got paid like it. And as far as I'm concerned they did they paid him what he was worth the ravens tried to pay lamar jackson more money even more in guaranteed money and yet lamar jackson said no for whatever reason and he's entitled to do so but again it is what it is i knew the ravens weren't lowballing him because of course why would you blow ball your franchise player it made no sense to me but once again it just shows that the ravens are a true first class organization and they were trying everything that they could to sign them more he just won't accept yeah so people you heard it here first lamar's not being lowballed, and you got it from a Ravens fan. How do you like that? So, well, let me tell you something else.

So, you know, Philly's coming off a Super Bowl appearance, and Dallas made some improvements. Washington made some improvements. The Giants made some improvements. The draft is still coming. How do you feel about their chances of staying atop the division? Because let's face it, the NFC, I'm not talking about the NFC as a whole, because the NFC as a whole isn't that strong.

So just looking purely at their division, how do you like their chances of repeating as division champs? Well, I think the Giants got better. I think the Cowboys got better, but it's still the Cowboys. Let's say don't let Adam hear you say that. I think it's going to be a lot tougher than it was last year considering the losses that they have on both offensively and defensively and the additions that the Giants

and the Cowboys made. So I think it'll be a lot closer than people expect. But at the end of the day, I see the Eagles somehow pulling through because I don't trust the Cowboys made. So I think it'll be a lot closer than people expect. But at the end of the day, I see the Eagles somehow pulling through because I don't trust the Cowboys. And I think the Giants are on the rise, but I don't think they're there to contend with the Cowboys just yet.

Yeah. I agree. I agree. That's a good point. And like I said, can't be too nice to the Cowboys. Otherwise, old Adam's going to be like, oh cowboys otherwise you know adam's gonna be like oh i told you it's okay and for those who couldn't put peace together now adam right second straight episode not here but it's okay we still love him he's just out for tonight that's oh he's out for tonight he's actually working so i'm not gonna play into him that much so you know

that was that was some good insight, Justin. Thank you for that. But now we are going to move on back to our draft coverage as the draft is coming up sooner than you think. So at the time of this recording, it's currently Tuesday the 18th and it's literally next Thursday. Are you excited? I'm excited. Oh yeah. So we're going to continue our draft coverage with overrated offensive prospects. I know you're not going to want to miss that. So please don't go anywhere. This and the pass is no sign yet. Edelman comes down with a football and they're saying it's a catch. It's a catch! It's a catch!

Side-line! Touchdown! Unbelievable! Slings it way down the field to Watkins! Sammy Watkins for the touchdown! Welcome back to the Fumble Rooski podcast by Power 88 Dean Radio and Seeker Weapon Consulting. I'm CJ Medeiros with my good friend Justin Tucker. And once more, we're dialing up our draft coverage.

Draft is coming. It's an exciting time for all. Unless you're a Patriots fan and Bill Belichick will find a way to rip our heart out again. But that's fine. It's fine. It's the waiting is the fun part. So we're going to move on to some of our overrated prospects. Now, the NFL draft, whether you're an analytics folk or whether you're one of the analytics

folk or not, I think we can all agree the nfl draft or any draft in any sport it's a crap shoe because how many times have we seen the the can't miss prospects miss happens more than you think so we're gonna move so like i said we're gonna talk about overrated offensive prospects you know prospects that will either a go higher than they should or b you know we just view as uh perhaps a little overhyped so let's begin justin i'll start with you what's one prospect you think that that you just aren't a big fan of that everyone else loves. Who's your overrated offensive prospect? The more I think about it, the more it's like, all right, I'm going to take – I don't want to take the freebie ones that are the obvious ones.

I want to dig a little deeper. And the name I came up with was Quinn Johnson. Thank you. He's not the wide receiver I prefer. I in jigba i want to say flowers i want jordan addison before i get to quentin johnson the reason for that is because like cj pointed out earlier a few episodes earlier he struggles with highly contested balls like high pointing them and that's strange considering how tall he is and how big he is so if he struggles with that in the league it could be a problem so unless he miraculously fixes that yeah i think he's a tad

bit overrated don't get me wrong i think he still has the skills and all that but if he can't hide why are you that tall yeah so it says here on his official prospect page, he's 6'3", 208 pounds. And you can go back and watch his tape and all he does is body catch. He can't extend. He can't high point. He can't get the contested catches. And when you look at his strengths and his weaknesses and his play style as a Pats fan i won't lie i'm kind of getting some nikhil harry vibes you know and as a pats fan i can say i know a thing or two because i've seen a thing or two and i if i'm picking you know pats i'm a pats fan you. We're picking up 14. I would stay away from him. That's just me.

It's like his route tree is so limited. He struggles to create separation or even just leverage in general. And like I said, just with the deep ball, just iffiness. Not a fan. Not a fan. Justin, do you have another one you'd like to think of? Yeah, let's get into it. Oh, man, I guess we got to get into the quarterbacks.

And when I think of the quarterbacks, there's one that pops out immediately. Will Levis stepped right up. I don't think he's as talented as Anthony Richardson is. Otherwise, Anthony Richardson would join him. I don't think Will Levis has the potential Anthony Richardson has, and I don't think he's where he needs to be as far as where C.J. Stroud or Bryce Young are. So that's why I think he's a little overrated,

considering he'll be picked up high because teams are needy at quarterback, and that's the most important position to have. So if they believe they can see him as a franchise guy, they're going to pick him. The question is, how far will he go up? If Houston, for some reason, goes Will Levis at two, I will lose my mind. It'll be funny. Certainly will.

Now, you've all heard my rants on will levis so i'll spare everyone that i know tuck gets to hear it day in and day out and if adam were here he'd tell you the same thing but for me i'm gonna go with my two guys i'm gonna uh how do i put this we're gonna go a different route i'm gonna do quarterback. And usually I wouldn't talk about this guy, but Hendon Hooker. You see, now I don't know if you all have been keeping up with the mock. Wait, hold on. What was that, Tuck? He's overrated?

Who's rating him that high? I'm going to get there. Now, I don't know if you guys have all been keeping up with the mock drafts, but many, most mock drafts, but many, most mock drafts now are mocking him in the first round. No, my answer is no. All right, let me break down the obvious stuff right away. He's going to be a 25-year-old rookie, And not only is he a 25-year-old rookie, he's coming off an ACL tear and he's a mobile quarterback.

That's like oil and water. And then it's just, oh, my Lord. Look, I like him. He's got a lot of potential. But going to the pros, I think it's going to be a bit of a steep learning curve because Tennessee's offense is so alien to the NFL. And I think our resident college football player, Justin Tucker, can back me up on this.

No? Yeah. It's not a pro-style offense. Yeah, it's not. I would argue it's not it's i i would argue is completely alien that's just me and he's a great runner but oh my god when he throws on the run it's like because which is weird because accuracy is pretty good but as soon as he's on the run all of his accuracy goes out the window but look i don't want to hate on him too much because I also mentioned that the only reason I'm even talking about him is solely because a lot of mocks now have him going in the first round. I don't know if you've seen that, Tucker, but it's true.

But he does have upside. It's just I just don't think he has first round upside. I agree. he has upside i see him as a high second low third yeah i would argue mid second low third but yeah somewhere in that ballpark i just don't think he should go first i don't know and so my other overrated prospect i just for the life of me i don't know why people are so high on him i mean in terms of professional draft grading he's the third highest graded uh josh downs from north carolina Josh Downs from North Carolina. Okay. For starters, he's undersized, you know, 5'9", 171.

But he runs, if you round up, because he runs a 4'4", 8". That's basically a 4'5". You know who else is undersized? Zay Flowers. And he's much, much faster. And the thing is with him, you can't send this guy in the middle. Everyone's like, Ooh, he's a good shifty, agile guy. I'm like, Oh yeah. If you send him on a slant route, he's going to get his head taken off. And you remember what happens when he plays corners that

are more physical than him. Oh yeah. If it's just physicality is his weakness. When he goes up against the physical press corner, he just gets destroyed. And his route running is so-so. And another thing, and this is something that we can also attribute to Quentin Johnston, he has focus drops. He thinks too much and he drops wide open balls and and especially like if you look if you look at the running game because you know in this nfl wide receivers have to block he cannot block on a run to save his life but but all that aside he's not that bad

i've seen a lot of mocks that sneak him into the first round. I personally don't think he should go in the first round, but that's just me. Justin, anything else you'd like to mention before we move on? Anybody I'll mention? No, not at this particular point in time. Not with

chest. Not with chest. No. Alright. Fair enough. We are going to be moving on to overrated defensive prospects. And, oh, boy, there are plenty to choose from. And I know you're not going to want to miss that. So, once again, don't go anywhere. This is the Fumble Rooski Podcast. and comes down with a football, and they're saying it's a catch. It's in.

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And we just spoke about overrated offensive draft prospects. And now we're going to be looking at overrated offensive draft prospects. And now we're going to be looking at overrated defensive draft prospects. So without further ado, Justin, which kid are you going to start with? It hurts. It hurts because he's from Maryland. It hurts. Brian Brzee. Oh, you mean Brzee?

Is it Brzee or Brzee? That's – I always called him Brzee, but it really doesn't matter. You know who I'm talking about. I want to say the DN out of Penn State. I mean – Clemson. Clemson. Yeah, the DT from Clemson, yeah.

Yeah. I don't see him as a DT. I see him more as a DN, so that's why I'm like, uh. If people try to play him at DN, it's not going to work. I think he's more so of a DN. And I keep seeing low first round. I think he's more of a low second round pick. Explain.

To me, I don't think he's that dominant enough to be a mainstay at D-tackle because I don't believe he can get off double teams that much. If he gets stuck on a double team, he'll get pushed. If he can't split it, then he'll have problems. And it's so upsetting because he's from Maryland and I want him to do good. But I just see second round, second round, second round for right now. I don't see first round. But hopefully that changes. Yeah, yeah, no, I hear you.

I do. And I think you make a valid point. But as far as I go, I do think this is ironic because I was going to pick a defensive tackle myself. Elijah Cansey from Pittsburgh. I wanted to say him, but I was like, nah, I'm going to let him slide because I know CJ's going to pick him.

Wow. Great minds think alike. Thanks, Justin. Cancy. A lot of people are comparing him to Aaron Donald. They look at him and go, undersized defensive tackle out of Pittsburgh? It must be Aaron Donald.

No. No. My answer is no. And look, I'm not saying he's bad. I think he's an early to mid-second round pick. But the fact that he could go mid-first, no, I don't like that. And so here's the thing with Cancy. If you go to NFL.com and look at his prospect profile,

his comparison is John Randall. Excuse me? Yeah, if you look at NFL.com at his prospect profile lance zerline's comparison for him is john randall as in superstar defensive tackle i believe hall of famer john randall Randall. No. No. Just no. So here's the thing. Not only is it a size thing, it's just that he plays interior, and bigger guards can easily just destroy him. And much like Tuck's concern with Brian Breese, this guy gets gobbled up by double teams. And this is going to sound weird, but I'd almost rather see him on the edge because if he can't find that crease in the line, his real lack of strength shows up. And when I say lack of strength, that's not even me.

That's literally him as a prospect. That's what it says. And it's just, which is weird because even though he's 6'1", he can't really get low. And you know the low man wins, especially in the trenches. And he continually gets sealed as a pass rusher, especially by the more elite guards. And like I said, he does have a lot of upside, as in he's a good, fast DT that can jet through the blocks. I mean, as a pass rusher, he's great. But, ooh, just as a run blocker, I mean, as a run stuffer, not a fan. And there's times he's been blown up by running backs,

and that's not something you want out of your DT. All right, Justin, do you have another? he's been blown up by running backs. That's not something you want out of your DT. All right, Justin, do you have another? My last one, because I don't want to keep picking on D tackles for no reason. I'm going in the DB section. It's not even so much I don't think he's good. I think he's good.

I just don't think he's the best guy. I think Christian Gonzalez is a tad bit overrated. Whoa! Tiny bit. Whoa, explain. I think Devin Witherspoon is a better cornerback prospect. I think Christian Gonzalez is an overall better DB prospect.

But at cornerback, I'd rather have Devin Witherspoon than Christian Gonzalez. That's just my opinion. Explain. I like Devin Witherspoon's aggression more. I like the way he flies the ball instantly. I like his tackling better. I don't believe he's the better overall coverage guy, but he can still cover.

But overall, if I'm looking for a guy to fit in the Ravens scheme, I would pick Devin Witherspoon. Witherspoon or Gonzalez will be around when the Ravens pick. I know, but I'm just saying that if I'm the GM for the Ravens and I wanted a guy that fit our culture and system, it's Devin Witherspoon. All right. I can allow it.

Now, for me, I believe I mentioned this one time like many episodes ago, but I'm going to talk about, ironically, a defensive back, DJ Turner from Michigan. Yeah, you have talked about this one. Yep. So everybody looks at him and says, ha, look, fast. Yes, fast. Good job. Now, I think he's a good player. Do I think he should be in the first round? No.

No. I have a late second round grade on him, and frankly, I think that's generous. I still can't forgive him for what he did against TCU. I still can't forgive that. We don't talk about that, Justin. It's okay, buddy. But, yeah, it's just he's a great athlete. He's got good technique. But as fast as he may be, when he is paired up with a physical receiver, say like a Quentin Johnston because, you know, they duped him out of TCU, he gets knocked around by big receivers.

And just due to his size, he can't really contest deep balls and oftentimes gets mossed. And keep in mind, the NFL receiver is bigger than ever these days. You know, the modern receiver is like 6'2". And if college-level big receivers give you an issue, NFL-level big receivers will make you look foolish. And he's not that good of a tackler. He can easily get brushed off. And there's something that his profile says that I've noticed from the get-go. He's forced to be what they call a grab-and-drag tackler,

as he's not just going to tackle you down on the spot. So, yeah, it's a real lack of physicality for me. And, you know, it's always good when a corner can grab the highlight reel picks. But if you can't bring down a receiver then i'm sorry i don't think you're a first rounder that's fair and no one should think dj turn is the first round here well ever since he ran his extremely good 40-yard dash a lot of people have said oh well you know move them up but i don't. I have him as like a late second. I have

him as a second, too. I don't think he should actually maybe mid-second because I mean, the interceptions are there. The breakups are there. But just physicality is a massive, and I mean a massive red flag.

So, so, yeah. If we have nothing else to say, we're just going to keep this train rolling. Because now we have everyone's favorite, the Fumble Rooski fan box. And I know you're not going to want to miss that because we had a great question this week. And we'll get right to it after this. You are listening to the fumble ruski podcast here's edelman broken up and the pass is no sign yet edelman comes down with a football.

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The one catch. Sammy Watkins for the touchdown! You are listening to the Fumble Rooski Podcast by Power 88, Dean Radio, and Seeker Weapon Consulting. I'm CJ Medeiros with, of course, everyone's favorite Ravens fan, my good friend Justin Tucker. Hello. All right. So we're on to the Fumble Rooski fan box. If you don't know, here's how it works.

We post a question filter on our Instagram every Monday, and you can respond with hot takes, questions, and more, and we will discuss it and give you a shout-out on this podcast. Be sure to respond to next week's Fan Box to be featured on our show. And our question this week. Drumroll, please. Which player do you need your team to draft? Let's begin. So right off the bat, we have Owen Van Slack, who said, quote,

literally any O-lineman or tight end. I'm not entirely sure what team he's a fan of because most people put their teams in their answer. So, so yeah i'll take your word for it owen next stephen parker said quote i think the bangles could draft a corner if there's a decent one there uh there there could be maybe emmanuel forbes is still. I would say Deontay Banks, but I don't think he's going to last that long. No, no, he ain't going to last that long. All right. Do you think Forbes would be worth it for Seattle in their second pick?

My honest answer, I'm like, who cares? But if I'm being nice about it, yeah, it's better than Eli Apple. I think he's a better prospect than eli apple so yeah yeah eli apple am i right all right patrick williver says cowboys bijan as in texas running back bijan robinson i'll tell you what come on you just tagged uh tony pollard that could work but again you just tagged Tony Pollard, so you would have to explain that situation. Yeah.

Yeah, I agree. I agree with you. But that could work. Jack Hartman, who I believe is a Browns fan, said Jack Campbell, who is a linebacker from Iowa.

Oh, my. Him and J-O-K, man. Yes, him and Joker would be a tandem right there. Oh, yeah, that's a good pick, I think. Next, Alex Nardone, I believe is how you pronounce his name, said, I am a Pats fan, and I need them to draft Zay Flowers. We need a wide receiver.

Me, I'm a big Zay Flowers guy. I love him, and I love Jackson Smith and Jigba. Can't go wrong with either one. They like him, apparently. They like Zay Flowers up there. Yeah, of course. I do, too. That guy is going to light it up at the next level.

Don't you forget it. Mm-hmm. Ah, here's a good one. A good friend of the show good old tyson tate says vikings any and any any in all caps any corner in the first round yeah they need they need cornerback help so does deontay banks last to their pick i can't remember where they're picking there they were a first round exit so i want to say 20 1920 around there yeah if he's there then i'd say take him but i mean it really just depends on who's available. Because if Brian Branch and Deontay Banks are gone, I don't know if it's worth reaching on someone like Emmanuel Forbes or Keeley Ringo.

Do you really think Devin Witherspoon and Christian Gonzalez are gone? Yes, I do. You know, with the Lions, Jets, Packers, and Patriots before them, I don't see Gonzalez or Witherspoon getting past them. If they're lucky, maybe Joey Porter Jr., but I don't know. Yeah, I think Joey Porter's going to be there. Although, see, here's the thing. I know the Steelers desperately need O-line help, but I could totally see them throwing common sense into the wind and drafting Porter Jr. Yeah, family. Family, indeed. Next, Josh Houle says, Patriots with Witherspoon or

Porter would solidify their defense to be relevant again. I love both of these guys. As much as I love Devin Witherspoon, I don't think he's going to be there. Porter, on the other hand, probably will. And will I love him? I don't know. It depends. It all depends, you know, because the Patriots are in a weird spot where if the chips fall right, they could have their pick of the litter

from OT to wide receiver or corner. I don't see it happening. They already have quality corners already. Yeah, but we don't have a true outside guy, you know? We have Jonathan Jones, but he's a slot dude. Yeah, but again, do you see him using a first-round pick on a corner? He'll probably just find someone undrafted. Perhaps.

You never know. It has happened before you know malcolm butler jc jackson stuff like that miles bryant we don't talk about him uh next brian mucker says ot and we do know he's a friend of the show and he's a jets fan yes i would say so because mckay beckton doesn't look up to snuff and depending on how the chips fall you could like broderick jones might be available and if he's there you snatch him up no question yeah next brogdon hill says my team is the panthers so we need a qb bryce young or cj stout which is obviously autocorrect. He means Stroud.

Yeah, I think they're probably going to go with Young. I don't know how that happened, but they're probably going with Young number one. That's impressive. Personally, I'm a CJ Stroud fan. That's just me. So, Eli

Turner says Osiris torrence for the broncos now the broncos don't have a first round pick they do have a second round pick but the thing is god help me i'm not entirely sure if he's going to be there. Yeah. Because I think he's going late first round. I, truthfully, especially since the Eagles picked second to last, that's usually a good time to take a guard, especially in the first. Any of they lost Sayu Malo, their right guard. I don't know if Osiris Torrance goes past Philly,

at least the second time. Didn't the Broncos just get a guard? They just took one from Baltimore. Do they need one? Yeah, Ben Powers. I guess they might need another one. I don't know. Interesting. So, yeah.

We're going to keep on trucking here. And, no, I lied. That's all. That's your Fumble Whiskey fan box, folks. I think we got a lot of great responses, if I'm being frank. Good times were had by all. So, Justin, you're pretty opinionated. Before we go, what is one player that you need?

I'm asking you the question. What is one player you need your Baltimore Ravens to draft? That's tough because I want a wide receiver, but if I'm getting DeAndre Hopkins, it's not necessary. It's like overkill at that point. Then I look at corner, and it's like, oh, who's going to be there? Joey Porter Jr. and Deontay Banks are just like eyeing me. And I'm like, oh, will they be there?

And so if there's one person I need, it's Deontay Banks. A Maryland guy coming home to the Ravens. I think that works. I think that works out well. You're a big Maryland guy. Of course. Oh, yeah, I know, I know. But, hey, you know, you can't – I'd say you can't go wrong with Banks.

That kid can fly and he can tackle. He can do everything you want for a corner. Yeah. I'd rather he just fly with me. Yep. So with that being said, we're going to wrap up here. So that will do it for us tonight. Thanks for listening.

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